The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: The Lord's Cable (feat. JuJu Gotti)

Episode Date: August 7, 2025

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No frills, delivers. Get groceries delivered to your door from No Frales with PC Express. Shop online and get $15 in PC optimum points on your first five orders. Shop now at nofrills.ca. This is the Dan Levator show with the Stucats podcast. One of the great things about being in the chair and I, and listen, it's been great, you guys. been thank you for the opportunity to truly enjoy it. That

said, I get to do things my own way, which I like. Which means that we can do all the baseball we want. So I want the post game to be just baseball. Just pitch clock, which means we get to get juju right now. I like pitch clock. I actually, I had watched it

for the first time. It was like a month or two ago. And I text Jeremy right after. I was like, hey man, I just watched pitch clock for the first time. It shows a lot of fun. It was really nice. I really appreciated that. And it's been really cool because last week we got the, or two weeks ago,

we got the most views that we've ever gotten on an episode of the pitch clock. It keeps increasing. And it's been really exciting. Chris Cody being a huge part of that, constantly kicking my ass in trivia, is I think a big reason why. People like to see me suffer. But it's been a lot of fun. It's been great.

And now we're getting to the most important part of the season. You got to stay with things. It's a grind. But guess what? Juju's starting right now with. Thursday Thunder Yeah Which is presented by

Draft Kings The Crown is yours Go ahead, Juju Yes sir Welcome back to Thursday Thunder We took a knot on the head Last week from Jake Paul Roundhouse

Knocked us clean out But this week We bad baby First off we start with my sister Six women of the year candidate. Most improved woman of the year candidate. Nas Hillman from the Atlanta dream going to face the Chicago sky tonight. She will get over 10 big ones tonight. 10 points for Nas Hillman. Lock it in. Second leg, we're traveling to the valley. We got some people

returning to the valley. And I don't think my sister is going to like people returning to the valley. to the valley. Kalea Copper, I think she's going to have something big to say about people coming to the valley tonight. So lock in her for over 15.5 points tonight against the Indiana fever. And the last leg, that's so-and-so, who's returning to the valley, my sister, Sophie Cunninghamon pulling up to the scene of the crime, allegedly. She's going to get over eight points tonight

against her former team because she's going to want to show them. And I feel her, lock it in. Thursday Thunder, the crown is yours. I think it's very clear to me, Juju, that Sophie Cunningham needs to be a part of that because she needs some money. She keeps getting fine, Juju.

What's going on with that? and why is it like is it 500 bucks or 300 bucks it's 500 when is she going to stop right is she that rich like it doesn't matter yeah fortunately my sister got a bank row sent tall and she got a lot to say especially with her having that new podcast i predict she's going to get a couple fines down the line as well but my sister's her wallet same thing she got it she's going to support it and she's going to say what she needs to be said so she's been very critical of officials right that's what the fine is yeah she's He's been critical of officials, and she's doing it on her podcast.

It's a new podcast that Mike, it's a real podcast. It's not a fake one. But she keeps doing things that get her find, like she's some sort of spokesperson for the truth, like speaking truth to power. But at some point, I think you say to yourself, wow, I need a different approach. The first one was a TikTok video that she did, and then it was like text. She didn't really say anything. It was just like a trend, but she, like, added the refs, and then they find her 500.

And in the first episode of her podcast, she was critical of the refs again. So they find her $1,500. Oh, so it has been going on. It's been escalating. It's been getting more and more these fines. Oh, then she's got to stop now. I assume that's it then. She's done.

I don't know, man. You should chip in and help her pay some of these fines some people around the world because if you're watching these games, you will see, these referees are inconsistent, to say the least. You feel me? My bad, Billy, I cut you off. No, I was going to say. I mean, it's getting attention for her podcast,

but if it keeps getting higher and higher at a certain point, like how much money are they going to fine her and how ridiculous is going to get? Because the WMBA can't fine anything too ludicrous either based on what they pay their players. So it's not like they can fine her $20,000 if her salary is $70,000 or something. So it's got to be, like $1,500 seems kind of high on the scale of what fines would be.

And at the end of the day, what she's doing, you say, Juju, that the referee is inconsistent. and I'm pretty sure that we talk about every sport with umpires, referees. There's inconsistencies everywhere, but she's doing something that's making her get fine. It feels like she's doing it on purpose. That's where I need your help,

that she's doing it for a purpose. Therefore, you have to counter that with a fine where she will realize that the juice is no longer worth it and she will stop. I assume that's what the WMBA will do. I think the juice is definitely worth it. And I've been taking, trying to find out, approaches and avenues on my show, The Alley Oob, which needs your help, ladies and gentlemen.

Like I say, we right now, we on, at I, not, it was eyeball hoops, but we changed the DLS hoops on YouTube, subscribe if you can. Even if you don't watch women's basketball, just come over there and tell us about how you feel. Why do you hate it? Tell me how much you hate me. Just please pull up on us. We're not a part of the levitori feet, neither here nor there. But on that show, I'm trying to figure out avenues on how I can become a referee. Should I do some high school games? Should I do some middle school games? I want to work my way into being a WMBA referee because something has to change.

You got to work your way up. You can absolutely start by doing high school games. And that is what, first of all, did you guys see what happened with Jen Powell? Amazing. I didn't see it. Nobody, Jen Powell, is the first. female umpired major league baseball history that'll be this weekend she's doing marlin's games this weekend and she's got the plate on sunday nice she's got the plate and i hope that we criticize

her i want equal opportunity criticizing you have we have to give her the business when she gets the calls wrong juju you got to do it yeah yeah i mean like you said like my my dog mike said a couple weeks ago, and also how we discussed on the alley-up, a couple weeks ago with T.N. Tran and Katie Kershaw from the Jocular podcast, we should be allowed to hate some WMBA players in the same way that we hate NBA players. My dog ain't wrong, man. If you want to hate Angel Reese, as long as it's basketball, hate away. So I hope sister get them calls right Sunday, or guess what? She's wrong. And let's attack. So this is interesting, right? Because in the other sports, you know, you have female referees in basketball, you have, you don't see it in hockey in the

NHL, I don't think there's any female officials, you have it in the NFL, there's, you know, female umpire, side, not umpire, but there's side judge, line judges, back judges, and the difference between those sports and baseball, the officials in the other sports, they, they don't engage with the player who is angry at a call. They're actually supposed to de-escalate the situation, But in Major League Baseball with the home plate umpire, they escalate the situation every now and then because they argue back with the player or manager who is yelling at them. Like that, that'll be an interesting look if she gets into an argument with the player or the manager. We've never seen that before. I think, well, what about Violet Palmer, Juju?

She was, I think 1997 became an NBA referee. So been around for 25 years. And I would assume she's ejected players. Absolutely, but there's no arguing. They don't yell. Oh, she just hears the argument basketball. They argue. Well, I mean, she may say something.

She tees you up, throws you out, peace, and then you're taught to walk away at that point. Major League Baseball umpires, they'll go nose to nose and yell with you. So you're worried about the kicking of the dirt? No, I'm not worried about the kicking of the dirt. I just think it's an interesting scenario that you could potentially have a manager or a player and for the first time ever, a female umpire just nose to nose and yelling at each other. That's an interesting optic, no? Yeah.

Like last year, Joel Embed had an incident where he got a technical file and I think an ejection and he had to be restrained, held back for wanting to get at the referee who was a lady. So, yeah, that poses an interesting dynamic, especially to see, right? Right. But doesn't that mean that it's working? She knows what she's. We did it? You're right?

We did it, David. I believe that that is when you know you have equality. Like we've arrived. So how about us? It's not just our show. We're a very progressive society. I believe that if Joel Embed goes after a referee, because that's what he does, he should not see. The whole purpose is don't see the gender.

Sometimes quality looks like Title IX. Sometimes it looks like a neon green dildo being thrown on the playing surface. These are all steps. You have to walk before he can crawl. Right. Also, I agree earlier what you guys said about this is the wrong type of progress with. it, ESPN, do I got to subscribe now? Do I, but my YouTube TV going to handle it?

Like, I think the varicose veins were worth it. I support it. I would name them the Joker of the Week. If I hadn't already given it to Kenny Minarek, you can't push me and then try to shake my hand in my face. Stick with one or the other. Don't push me. But at the same time, I agree 100%.

And good luck if you subscribe through Apple and you just get a receipt at 9.30 p.m. Eastern Time and says, thank you for your payment to who? I don't even know what I just made. Juju, what are these billing cycles? I get an email from Apple like every three days. Hey, here's your receipt. How am I getting a receipt on the 17th?

That doesn't make any sense. They scatter these. They count on you just being confused by it. You probably signed up on the 17th. No. No, that is not an option. That's exactly how we are. me on the same exact day so I can get

a flood of bills and be like, what the hey? It starts the day you subscribe. No. You have to press the button, Mike. No. No. No. No. No. No. Because you are now trying to No. Hey, excuse me. Sir. You signed up on the 17th. Bullshit. Because I just bought a car

yesterday. I got to pay that mother on the first. I bought a house on the 27th. I got to pay that mother fuck on the first. Don't do that. What? Because I have Instagram premium now. I'm married to the 14th. Everything on the

first. Juju, thank you. Do you have any polls before you go? Yes, man, that was wonderful. That's the second time Mike don't wow me today. Also, we had to say about

Trump earlier. Oh, my. Hell of a day for me. You wanted veins. I'd give you veins. All I want to know is where I can watch backlash. All the veins.

Lord's cable. Juju, we need Mike to take a breath, maybe take a sip, get a shake. Yes, sir. Did we do any polls? I'm sorry, this whole week. I feel like I've ignored the poll system because I've just tried to do baseball and make it my own. It's all good. You haven't ignored the shirts and they've been wonderful, brother.

We had one good poll today, one important one. Do you call it a pocketbook or do you call it a purse? 85% of the audience says, They call it a purse. 15% is a win for you, David. That can't believe 15%. You thought it would be 99 to 1. I don't even believe those 15%

that they call it a pocketbook. Those 15% are 70-year-old Jewish women. How great would it be? Who knew if we had that many in our demographic? Exactly. You're welcome. Draft Kings. You're about to have a hell of a lot more if you keep losing weight, pal.

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I really was hoping to speak more Yiddish. Translation on all of them, please. Yiddish macher is like a big man, or I wanted to say Schmeck-M-O-C. Wanted to say Shweb. Wanted to say so, there's so many things you can do. Schmuck? I mean, there's a lot of things, not like Mike, which causes every. everyone to go crazy because he's swearing like a drunken soldier.

The one I use the most is schvitzing. And when I'm sweating, I'm schvitzing in here. For the record, I don't like the Browns anymore. You don't have to ask me the question through a Brown's fan prism. I'm just as confused as regular NFL fans as to why they have 17 quarterbacks, why they drafted one in the third and one in the fifth. How Joe Flacco is back and how we're just learning that he's Italian and how that's being reported on when I thought that that was, he's Italian!

He's Italian! I thought that it was implied because of the last name. I thought he was Jewish. Flacco? Yeah. I don't know enough about the tribe to know the names. I mean, have we had a Jewish quarterback since Fiedler? What about the guy?

Starting quarterback at least? What about the guy with the Mata, BYU who had to leave BYU? Rets off. He was Jewish. Yep. But in the NFL, starting quarterbacks? Bernie Cozar? Not Jewish.

Dan. I had Josh Rosen for a minute. Ah, yes. Chosen Rosen. There you go. Dr. Rosen, Rosen? I need to bring to your attention that I tried last night. You asked me before what I do after the show.

Yeah, yeah. And I forgot to mention there's something very important that I do. Yesterday I tried to learn the difference between AI and not AI so I can improve sort of... Because you got fooled. Because I got fooled. And it turns out I came across an interview that was Florida. Adjacent, a newscaster did a interview with a kid who got killed in the school shooting in Parkland.

Hold on. He did an interview with the kid who got killed. Yes. And it was an AI avatar. It was insane. Was it like a made-up kid or it was a real kid? No. A real kid.

That's awful. It was truly, truly one of the most despicable things I've ever seen. That's awful. It's the same thing. Is that your view, though, of like the Tupac? What's it called when a... It's a slightly different thing. The hologram?

It's a slightly different thing. I think it's a way different thing. To create an AI version of a minor who was murdered. And this, to get his opinion on things and basically regurgitate what you think through the voice and image of a young person who was killed. So just to be clear, does it work that whatever the AI was answering was according to what he was program to answer by the interviewer? I don't know, right? Maybe, maybe, maybe there's a world in which the AI is programming some of the things that

his father, Manuel Oliver, has said about Joaquin. So no permission was granted. Is the assumption... It was granted by his parents. So I still, either way, I feel like it's just to use the likeness of, at this point, right, like to use AI to recreate this child. Am I hearing this correctly? You said that the parents did grant the parents.

That does change it a little bit for me. It changes it. All right, according to variety, and I'll just read you the first two like paragraphs here for some context. Jim Acosta, the former CNN chief White House correspondent, who now hosts, blah, blah, whatever, published an interview with AI generated avatar of Joaquin Oliver who died at age 17 in Parkland

in the Parkland School shooting in 2018. the interactive AI was created by Oliver's parents who granted Acosta the first quote-unquote interview with the recreated version of their son on what would have been his 25th birthday. Can we now get a re-vote? It's a little different to me now. It's a little different now.

I still find the decision-making pretty gross. I personally don't like it, but I feel different about it now. I felt like all of what Billy Red was implied. I don't think Jim Acosta would just go rogue and like this is no doubt provocative um it's certainly dicey and worth criticism but i thought the buy-in from the parents was implied jim akasa does have a reputation um so i i thought that it was certainly above board with the parents no doubt do you remember the movie i robot yeah it was horrible

try to forget it love that movie love richemontahan tom brady's ex love will smith in that movie the whole package, but one of the things is a hologram appears, and the guy gets to basically live forever with messages to the current people post-death. The concept here that I thought interested me is that once we die, we have a chance to live on, looking at our best, by the way, he looked great, he never will age, spewing messages that are his, actually his, with parental control or spousal control or family control and permission. That's up to debate. this is whether or not they're his because he's no longer around to speak for himself that it's dicey but jimicasa as a journalist if this is presented to you you you you deduce however you can through

your ethics is whether or not this is something that you should do why there is an interest to it why that that that's fine this is not journalism no it's not journalism it's it's all shock value that's there's not like why i will i will say that this isn't the first time that we've seen something like this. This is the first time that we've seen a journalist interview a victim like this. We've seen journalists interview AI before when doing AI stories. And we've seen the attorneys turn to AI and have victims who are no longer here speak in the courtroom as themselves and speak about their family. That counts as a testimony? I've seen these clips. Can't someone write the script? No, no, no, they're not witnesses. It's for effect. It's for closing arguments.

Where they say, look, oh, okay. And the victim, the victim was speaking to the alleged shooter saying what he took away from him. I was a hardworking man. I was a military veteran. I was a parent. It's a victim impact statement done by a victim. It's not testimony. It is not.

The jury doesn't get to use that in its deliberations. So let's make sure we're. Yeah. Thank you for helping me clarify. But, yeah, it's all for effect. Can I ask you something? What do the parents? gained from allowing this?

Like, what are they trying to... They want their child to keep living with and not have it happen to any other children. I think that's a point. That this, you can disagree with it, but they feel like they're helping with this. And you're talking about it and bringing attention to a cause

that is very clearly close to a lot of people's hearts. Look, the way I responded to it was, at this point, under the assumption, genuinely, that I wasn't sure that the parents were involved. And I was just so frustrated because we have seen these misuses of AI. We have seen whether it's the Tupac thing

or way worse with deep fakes of all sorts of different stuff, people using AI for their own confirmation bias on whatever topic. Left, right, down the middle, it doesn't make a difference. I still am kind of grossed out by it because like we were just sort of saying, this child is gone. And you doing your own advocacy on behalf of your own advocacy on behalf of your child is one thing, to generate their image or likeness for your own mourning

is another thing. To then use that to preach a political message through his words, through his voice is a third thing that does feel like potentially a bridge too far. And look, how am I to judge parents who have lost their child and are trying to figure out how to use their lives to make sure that what happened to him doesn't happen to anyone else, but it just feels like we have already opened the floodgates on AI in a way that is really, really problematic and we're not going to go back. And the more that things like this just become acceptable, no different than the way we talked about within politics, where things have just gotten to this place that's so out of control that we allow things that 10 years ago would have been insane to

consider, I'm worried that we're going to continue to justify things that go this direction where today, yes, it's with permission. But tomorrow, where do we go from there? Mark my words, Jeremy, 10 years from now, you'll look back at this, and this will be good and plenty compared to an entire cake of candy. You'll be living inside the Oculus Rift by then anyways. But while I know that you're concerned, and everybody is, I will remind you that AI told Billy earlier today that had deonomo hit a 575. Yeah, and Japanese all-star game. Also, Sage Rosenfield.

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doing this AI stuff and I came across this. Then I came across another story and I was ready to go public with it in the show and our producer, Matthew Koka, the producer of the person said, wait a minute,

may not be real, that Howard Stern got canceled, that the show got canceled. So who do you trust on the Howard Stern beat? How do you, I told Koka, what do you want for me? Because he keeps saying,

you're wasting my time because I'll text him ideas for stories and he'll be like, these aren't real, and it's making me insane. So, the headline said canceled while the article said just not renewing. I don't know if we're making that a difference. That's not it. The question is, is it true that he is not being renewed or that it's not renewing? Because we don't have the right sources yet, according to Coca.

Everything I've seen, and I, for, I stopped listening to Howard about four or five years ago. Before that, I was a religious. listener every day for probably 25 years. Since I was 16 years old, every day on the school bus, I had my little radio, and I was a religious listener. Did you get beat to a pope? Sorry. Why? Why would you say that? No, he was a cool kid. How are cool kids listen, Howard Stern? So, I mean, a religious listener for 25 years. And I grew out of it a few years because honestly, the show changed. The show's not even remotely close to what it used to be. Well, in that he's not off and on.

But I saw all the reports yesterday, and everything I'm reading, like, I don't know what to believe, and everything I'm reading is, oh, they're going to make him an offer, but it's going to be like a super lowball offer, which he obviously is going to have too much pride to accept, and it's going to come to an end, their relationship with Sirius XM. So I don't know what to believe. I trust Jimmy Trayna on the Howard Sternbeat. He's reported on him. He's a fan of his, and this is what he had to say. There was a question posed to him on X. What are your thoughts on Stern? Why wouldn't Sirius let him make it seem like it was his choice?

He responded to this by saying, I didn't want to get into this, but people have been asking me about this nonstop. The report, and he did quote, report in quotes, came from the sun. Now, for the uninitiated, the sun is a rag. It's a tabloid, and they got a lot of stuff wrong. You may be able to hold up a couple of things this tabloid has gotten right, but not super reputable. That was me editorializing. We continue with the tweet.

If anyone believes that report, they are a very stupid person. His contract is up in December. He's on vacation until after Labor Day. His show did not get canceled. That still leaves room for it to not be renewed. But the report said it was canceled, and this has been co-opted by the right on social media. I've seen a lot of that. The misinformation cycle is totally fan the flames on this.

Go woke, go broke all that. He has not been canceled, and he's due to return after labor. Why wouldn't he have just said that we are? back. I mean, give him time. It's been 24 hours. He's on vacation. You mean, how, yeah, he's on vacation? No, but I'm saying that Jim train a guy. He used, it seems like he used the word canceled purposefully. And when you say it opens the door to non-renew. You don't non-renew Howard Stern. They don't just call him like the day before the contract. Right. It's, it's, serious XM probably has a good idea of what direction

they're going. And that being said, the reports are inaccurate because he hasn't been canceled. by all indications is he's going to come back after Labor Day to do his show and he wouldn't be doing that if he were canceled. Is it canceled? Is it fair to say that then that Colbert was canceled because that show is over, but obviously they're fulfilling the remainder of the contract. Non-renuels and cancelations really are semantics. It's effectively the same thing.

And Howard's schick on air, I also, not as much now, but listen to Howard a lot throughout. His schick for the last 10 years is this is my last contract. Oh, yeah, and it goes down to the wire every time. He could just go to air when he comes back from vacation and be like, I'm not renewing even if they wanted me. I don't know what's going to happen. We'll see. I don't have a deal. That's been the running storyline for Howard every year for like 10 years.

I'm going to need a list of ways to confirm stories because Jim Trana, you'd assume you can use that, but you can't use the sun. And then blue checks don't matter anymore. Is it only CNN, Fox, MSNBC? I mean, do we just list the different main news outlets and say if it doesn't come from them, then it's. doesn't come at all. The whole thing has been bothering me because one day wasn't good enough and I can't do it today, Zaz, because I'm leaving. Here's also the thing. I mean, Howard's 71 years old. So? But like, eventually he's going to stop doing the show. He's made billions with an us off of this show. Stop doing it eventually. And every contract he does the show less and less.

And talks about how badly he wants to not be able to show. And how he hates leaving his house. It just rings familiar. I'm not, I don't, I can't figure out how. I understand this seems like spin, but if it is spin, it's a brilliant spin from the King of All Media because he's been setting, he's been planting the seeds for this exact spin for close to a decade. Yeah. So you think he is at the root of this. Now, this is an angle I didn't think about it. I couldn't believe the last contract that he got.

It doesn't really, none of the serious XM contracts that Howard Stern has received seemed to make a lot. lot of financial sense. And yet, he keeps getting them. And every time everyone's bewildered, he does the show less, seemingly gets paid more. But along the way, as Azaz and Chris has said, he said, I don't think I'm going to do this much longer. This is probably my last contract. I think what the politics of it have been is that there is some sort of thought, and Dan had this thought on this show, that the Colbert, we had an issue. I was a guest one week. And I explained that the Colbert issue was totally financial related, and his view is no, it was totally political related

and the fact that he had criticized the deal with CBS and Paramount, et cetera, et cetera. I mean, Howard would be in that... Yes. Yeah, his show got very political. He's critical of the right. Right, so that's what people are saying is that Sirius XM, and what I would argue is that Sirius XM looks at its bottom line. They look at his show, and they say, well, wait a minute,

what we're paying him, the billions with an S total in totality, we no longer can do that. So then we go to Howard Stern and say, say, okay, we can talk about a renewal, but you're used to X, it's now going to be Y. And when people are told that their value has changed, they tend to not want to do the same job. If you go to Colbert and say, please keep doing this, but we can only afford to pay you $3 million, he's going to say pound six. Howard's going to spin this into a win, and he shouldn't address his story whatsoever until he returns from vacation after Labor Day. He's just in the Hamptons.

I mean, he's able. I mean, I don't know what he is. Yeah, he's able, but why would he do that? That doesn't serve him. What serves him is being quiet, let other people spread around their opinions on the matter, and he returns from vacation after Labor Day, and then you hear it from the horse's mouth. And just by saying, I told you so, I guess it's a good plan. I guess I... That would be the plan.

That would be the way that Howard Stern would always leverage this type of chatter. He's the king of all media. The king. He'll spin it of like, they think I want to come back? Okay, so I have not made progress, is the bottom line. AI versus not AI. What's a good story? What's true? I don't think it's a way to make progress. Everybody else seems to do it. Mike seems to say to everyone his age and that I'm an old guy. No, Mike definitely gets fooled sometimes at that kind of stuff. I get fooled, I don't

all the time, but I definitely get fooled. I've gotten fooled. There's just things you have to check. I mean, I think you're just upset that you got like really taken for a ride with that story of the couple who was lost. I saw that story and I was like, this looks fishy and I Googled it and it was like fake news story, fake news story. The things that are easiest to fool you are the things that you want to believe. For example, there's a video of the president doing his dance on the roof and looked at that. I'm like, man, I really wish that was real. No.

See, I don't know. It's not really to do that. But just to show you how far gone we are, no joke, when I saw one of my campers when I was there last week, he follows me on Instagram. And the picture that we shared a couple weeks ago of me is like my all-county photo playing baseball from high school. We didn't share that. Well, hold on. We shared it on the show. It wasn't my decision. But we, he saw that photo. And he said, wait, that's a real photo of you. I thought it was AI. Wow. That's just a photo of me at 17 years. Because you looked thin. Oh, because you were tall. Which was it? Tall, short. Not tall. Good at sports. Good at sports. You were the. My face looked a little different because I was 17 years old. Also, Sage Rosenfeld's not Jewish, but turns out J.T. Daniels and Aaron Murray. Both of their moms are Jewish.

And Rod Carew. He converted. And A.J. Dillon. How does that not counts? Actually, I believe that's... He denied that to Adam Sandler. It's incorrect. He wore a Jewish star.

Yeah, but that's a different thing. There are plenty of players in the Dominican Republic as well who will wear the star of David, but are not Jewish. I don't think I ever saw a Dominican player in my career wear a Jewish star. Now, I saw it in the Academy, the Mets Academy when I was living there. Or when you were in the academy? When I was there for two and a half months. Flamed out, elbow hurt? Not playing there to teach English.

But that's a story for another day. That's nice of you. It's an eye-wash when we pay people to teach the Dominican players. Wasn't paid college credit. Yeah, that's how it works. And then we get to say, hey, look, we're trying to take care of these players. I mean, I did my best. I tried to help them.

But you are. I did teach them things. Just for optics. It's optics. But even if the teachers do a good job, it's still just for optics? Yeah, because once you realize that they're not going to be big, leaguers, and we're not even going to use a visa on them. Andre Cimenez was there.

We just let him go once in a while. I mean, of course, you're going to get gold. Yeah, they were really good. Do you know the majority of those players, though, don't make it? Oh, the majority of them are cut after a year. And they just send them right back to where they are, and it's terrible. Yeah, it's really rough. But they got to meet Jeremy, so.

And by the way, they all sign up for it. They all want to be in the academy. If they can be in for a year, they will do it and then get to talk about it forever, and it's a part of their life, and we totally take advantage of it, and I feel terribly about it, but we're not so sure you do. No, you don't. No, you don't. I've been really seen less. Khan-a-con man over here. It's, no, this is not just the Marlins. This is all 30 teams. Do the exact same thing. Do not think we're special. It's the part when you say, I feel terrible about it with a smile. Yeah, don't believe you. You just, you understand that you're, don't you feel for people when you're giving them a dream that you think can be attained, but you know it can't be, but they think it can be? Jose Altuvae is who everyone holds up as Jewish?

No, as the example where a guy who was signed for no money who had to try out for days and days and days, he wasn't even scouted, and then ends up getting signed and now has a Hall of Fame career. And every player, particularly Venezuelan players, look at him as this, you know, shining star to hold up as an example of if he can do it, so can I. Borderline Hallfam is a freak. Borderline Hallfam, he cheated. Borderline.

Man, see, it is crazy. I was shocked. He got booed loudly every single at bad. Why is that a shock? Lone Depot Park. I'm surprised that people outside of maybe... It's been eight years. Yankees, Dodgers, Red Sox, the teams that the Astros beat in 2017,

I'm pretty surprised that he still gets that treatment around the league, considering how great he's been since it happened. It's all, it's like this show a little bit and that the memories are very long, just very, very long. It just surprises me considering, like, a lot of the steroid guys didn't even get that, you know? Like, once it happened, A-Rod didn't get booed at every single park that he went to for the years after that. He got booed by certain fan bases, but there were plenty of places he went where it was fine, and he was the worst of them. The worst of the steroid guys? Well, in terms of the public reputation, right?

Because it was twice that he had to admit to cheating, twice in a public interview after denying it. It was pretty rough. I mean, he didn't have to testify in front of Congress and ruin my childhood dreams. That was the worst day of my childhood The worst day of your childhood I mean I lived a pretty privileged childhood Like who in particular was in front of Congress McGuire

My favorite player of all time I know Palmero did the fan Mark McGuire is still to this day My favorite baseball player Not here to talk about the past That was the worst part of your child It was awful I cried I cried watching that

Are your parents still married? Yep So that's why it was the worst Yeah no I've lived a really privileged life Have you ever had a mole removed? Oh yeah that shit sucks Wisdom teeth Yeah but that was kind of funny Mark? Yeah, it was kind of funny.

I had really big chubby cheeks. You break a bone ever? Yeah, I mean, I'm just asking like top line stuff. Ever get caught cheating? Emotionally, that was rough. Yeah, did you ever get caught cheating? I got, I cheated on a, on a, on a homework in my seventh grade Spanish class. And I just used to write, like, random words in because I knew she didn't check.

And then the one time, Signora Costa checked the work. And she saw that all I was right, I was like, banana, Apple, like just writing not even words in. Spanish and she checked and she gave me the I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed and oh man it was awful. But McGuire was worse. McGuire was way worse. Awful. Seems like you were the McGuire Spanish class. Doing it for a long time. You finally got caught. I mean, how long were you manipulating Signora Costa? A couple months. Wow. Oh, that's not as bad. McGuire was years. She's out there listening. I just hope she knows. I still feel bad about it. I really do. I don't think so. I just immediately it came to mind. You're smiling. You are smiling.

your smile looks great like your arms thanks thank you everybody so before we go zaz billy roy mike cody jeremy i've enjoyed this what and now it's time for me to go oh that's it you had me here for four days and mike the the first five minutes of our nothing personal interview memorable memorable better than my appearance the audience was all over it David, I'd say this week, you made it weird, like, only like three times. Hey, all right, yeah, you hit the under. Like, seriously. The over under.

Six and a half. Yeah. Oh, that's crushing the over under. Push, oh. Do anyone hear from our dad, Dan? Nary a word. Nary. Guess what?

I'm coming back. That's what I'm going to do. Uh-oh. And Zaz? Is that a threat? Yes, a promise, baby. I'll be back.