The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: The Pizza Delivery Conundrum

Episode Date: February 21, 2024

Lucy takes us through "the scam of all scams" as she, Jess, Amin, and the rest of the crew discuss the most gullible woman who has ever lived losing $50K to someone claiming to be the CIA. Dan also tells us about a recent scam he fell for. Then, Tony has some questions for Dan including "How did anyone get places before technology?" "How did the Pizza delivery person find your house?" and "What is the glove box for?" Plus, despite Dan wanting to cater to the audio audience, we watch two videos before playing everyone's favorite game: AGAINST! THE! SPREAD! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe Kings Network. This is the Don Lebatore Show with the Stugatz Podcast. All right, Lucy is starting here. We are going to talk about the Beatles. Actually, no, we are not. While you were going to change your mind. Things changed while I was gone. All right. We We are gonna talk about the Beatles actually no, we are not While you were gonna change while I was going all right We're gonna talk about the late the article in the cut about the lady who put yeah

Here we say in the cut. It's what does that mean what the hell no cuz I know cuz I okay Save it for the show for the show. I thought we were already on air I thought you guys were going already we were gonna talk the Beatles But the whole thing got sabotaged because Lucy and Jessica and Amin are going crazy about one story that Tony knows about, but I think Roy, Chris and I are in the dark about. So help us out.

Okay, so basically last week, this story started trending on Twitter of this woman who's like a financial writer, like that's her entire job and how she got scammed. Let me just read the headline. The day I put $50,000 in a shoebox and handed it to a stranger, I never thought I was the kind of person to fall for a scam.

This story was crazy. This woman basically got like a text message from Amazon that was like, oh, someone's like hacked into your account and has your info. They call her, they give her name in her social security number. She's like, well, this has to be real. And they were like, we are with the FBI, the CIA,

someone is using your social security number. She's logged into her account. She's like, I don't really see anything. I don't know anything that's going on. But they had enough personal information about her that she was like, you know, you've got a good point here. This is absolutely happening. And they were like, well, how much money do you have

in your savings account? And she told them and they were like, well, take out the money that you would need for a month, but you cannot tell your husband. And she's like, why can't I tell my husband? I trust my husband. And they're like, your husband will get implicated if he finds out about this. And she's like, why can't I tell my husband? I trust my husband. And they're like, your husband will get implicated if he finds out about this.

And she's like, you know what? And her whole job is to teach people not to do this. She's like a financial advice columnist. Oh, no. She's got to get fired. She goes to the bank and she takes $50,000 out. This is all happening in one day, by cash. Cash.

And like. There's the limit on the cash. No, it's a fair question. There's a lot of questions, but Lucy, please finish. Please finish the story. So she takes the money out, she still hasn't told her husband, and so they were like, okay,

we're gonna have somebody drive by, and you'll just walk out, give us the cash, so that we can put it in like bonds or something. Yeah, that's how it makes sense. That will like, be able to come back to you so it's not traced. It was insane. She was like, are you sure?

Like, you sure I can't tell my husband? And they were like, yeah, like you can't. She's like, well, it's Halloween. I have to take my kid, trick or treating. And she was like, and they were like, just don't get your kid involved. It's fine. So this woman, she goes, finds a shoe box,

puts the $50,000 in the shoe box, they pull up, goes up to a van, they roll down the window, she hands them the $50,000, walks back up the stairs, and is like, oh, that might have been a bad idea. I might have just got scammed. Then she told her husband, and he was like, yeah, obviously that was a scam. What are you talking about?

Like the government isn't like trying to take this money from you, she ends up like reaching out to the FBI and the CIA or whatever and they're like, yeah, we're never gonna ask you to do that. And then she was like, I gotta write this down and I gotta share it with you. Tony, what have you written down?

I've written down a couple of things, Dano, as a financial writer, I don't know, needs to be fired by the way. Yeah. Number one rule, number one rule, federal agencies, IRS, CIA, FBI will never call you or text you telling you to do something. Ever, never, that's one.

Two, as Amin and I said in our personal show, they break down the door with windbreakers. They don't call, they break the door down. That's how they contact you, windbreakers. It did lead to a whole variety of A follow up questions because my initial thought also Chris Cody said, isn't there a limit to how much cash you can withdraw from a bank?

Like I would have met, I don't know because first of all, having like $50,000 like liquid that you can withdraw is a lot of money. You think there's a limit? I don't think, I mean, I don't know, I'm not sure how wealthy this person otherwise is. She had 80,000, she told the person who was pretending to be a CIA agent, a CIA agent.

That's my favorite part. On the phone with her who was connected to her via Amazon, air quotes Amazon. She told them she had $80,000, that was her entire life savings. She's I think a 40 year old woman with a kid and a husband and lives in Brooklyn. And he said, what Lucy said,

like take out what you need for a year. And so she took out 50K and he was like, take out 50K. She's like, okay, I will. So she took out $50,000 and one withdrawal at the bank like went and talked to a banker and person and they gave her the money. And I didn't even think that was a thing that could happen. I don't think there are limits,

but I do think they will call managers over for approval at five or ten thousand dollars maybe ask some follow-ups you know I just love the idea of Jack Ryan working for the CIA I'm taking a break from destabilizing a foreign government to let you know that Amazon account might have been hacked so I need your money now how does that makes is she CIA she's a moron well it's official you're a moron. She's gullible, she clearly was very vulnerable and paranoid and fell for it.

And to be, I guess this is where I found myself over the last week after I read this story, because there's a lot of people following on two sides of this debate. Like I got in an argument with my friend Priya right after I read this, because Priya was like, this woman's an idiot. And I was like, I still feel bad for her though.

Like even though she did something that I couldn't fathom doing or fathom anyone I know being gullible enough to do, I still feel bad and Priya was like, I don't. And parts of it was because in this article, she wrote about how like the most common people that get scammed are uneducated and lonely and poor. And she's none of those things.

And I was like, oh, that's kinda icky. And so there's a lot of gray area here and people not really knowing if they should empathize or not knowing if it's fair to call her. I mean, we'll almost, I mean, we'll almost always fall on the line of crushing anybody who's got so little street smarts that they get suckered by a dumb scam. I mean, it's almost fundamentally incapable of showing that person any compassion.

It's incomprehensibly stupid. So I once asked, like, oh, you know what's the worst thing about these scams are with the emails or whatever? Like, I'm a Nigerian prince and da, da, da. I said, the number of misspellings and stuff, you said, they, I said, they can't even be bothered to spell it all right. And someone pointed out to me like, no, they do that because they know if you even entertain it for a second

with all these misspellings, you definitely have a sucker on the line. So saying, hey, I'm with the CIA, she says, go on. They automatically know. But, I mean, also has, I believe, an acidic hostility to if you're gullible, this gullible, you've learned nothing. Life's been too easy for you.

If you're still this naive that you have 50,000, if, I feel like I can speak for a mean when I say if that $50,000 can be taken from you that easily, you don't deserve to have it. This is rich though, coming from a show that gets scammed by fake tweets once a week. I extend to all the stupid people that kind of compassion. I feel different, so Dan. I'm talking about a mean here, not me. You're not putting 50K in a shoebox and hanging it over somebody on Twitter.

Oh, but I can feel... I agree with you. I'm kind of trying to play devil's advocate here because like I said, incomprehensibly stupid. There could be an orca here, I don't know. Two. Have compassion for stupid people. I can be scammed this way.

I have recently been scammed. If somebody asks you for 50 grand, tell us your scam. Better yet, give me the 50 grand and let me negotiate with them. Exactly. And if they're above board, I'll say, hey, Dan, you know what, they were cool.

I gave them the money. They were at the CIA, by the way. I'm going to tell you, coming home, my wife is vastly more street smart than I am. I am a sucker for somebody who needs help. And I can be gullible and so I've rarely felt quite as vulnerable as when I came home and told her the following story and her response was to look at me and just say you've been scammed and it undressed me. My clothes should have just fallen straight to the floor. I love this story already. And shriveled up shame because I felt good about what I had done. But I'm coming up on the, I'm coming on to the highway from an exit ramp that's got a fairly decent amount of traffic.

And off to the side of the road is a car with a guy who seems super desperate, okay? And he comes to my car because I pull over to see if he needs some help because he's on the side of the road and he seems sort of panicked. And it's a really public place, okay? And he points to his family back in the car and there is a family of there are some kids in the car and he comes over and he's offering to sell me his jewelry because he's got an emergency he's got to get a flight out in his car has broken down and so I go

into my wallet I don't want his jewelry he's offering to sell me his his necklace is his watch. You guys see this whole scam unfolding in a way that's super obvious? You'll never buy the jewelry. My car broke down and I need to get a flight. That already doesn't make sense. Ha ha ha ha.

He was returning his rental car. Oh. And he was on a pan- Let me see the rental agreement. What was the tag, Dano? So you guys are going to ask all sorts of follow up questions on the side of a highway on the on the entrance This guy looks desperate though most of the time they look real content on the side of driving. Yeah, I'm out of there Huh, sadly they have car problems

Buddy Ranger, I think you're also like you have the most like you're you know you come from wealth So I think you have like what am I gonna do for the guy? I'm saying you have money so you it's like for you To be fair like this is what's so insidious about scammers, because people are way more skeptical of people that actually need help if you encounter them in the real world. Which a lot of people genuinely need help, and you're just automatically your guards up because there are so many people calling random women and saying, hi, I'm from the CIA, can you put $50,000 in a shoebox please and deliver it to an unmarked car outside? I'll be honest with you, this story makes me angry for one reason and one reason.

It's not that this woman was gullible or stupid or whatever, although she is. It's that easy to get $50,000 and I've been working this whole time, like a dumbass showing up to work and giving you guys entertainment and stuff and flying cross country. And meanwhile I could just say,

hey, I'm from the CIA. Couple licks a year, you're good. Oh my God. What do you think Stugatos right now by the way he took that book advance and disappeared for a week and put Mina me Greg Cody and Andre Dawson on deadline I do think the real moral of the story here never answer your phone yes never mistake, I will never answer an unknown call. I, once she did that I was like,

I don't feel bad for her. I won't answer a known call because there was a point in the story where she said, prove that you are who you say you are, and he called her from a spoofed number, and she said, hey, can't this be like a spoofed number? And he was like, nope, you can't spoof a government agency. And she's like, well, all right,

I'll take your word for it. Oh my God. Like, no. He also showed her a bag. Again, though, I want to go back to my situation and the way that you guys are mocking me, as if I'm the biggest fool in the world for thinking that a desperate father with kids in a car,

in a rental car, would be scared and worried on the side of the road. It's gross what that guy's doing, by the way. How much money did you give him? I gave him $100. And not as bad as I thought. Is that all the key she had? Or is it kind of like, you know, you get that?

No, he was like, after I gave the $100 and he kept asking for more, I'm like, no. Ooh, the radar went up. Wait a second. I'm like, no, this is, right. But it was urgent. It was so urgent that I felt that's what the first time I felt the grift like I like you like the next day in the same traffic and this guy's there again, and you're like

What the I'm there carry in cash, huh? Let me never have cash never answer the phone and the kids are still there When he got me again with it the following Friday, I got suspicious. That's what I knew. Hey folks, it's Mike Ryan. Now, you've had the distinct privilege of knowing me for close to 18 years and you know that I've changed.

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We like to call this one a chorus of Owen Wilson. Ready? Stugatz! Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! This is the Don Lebatard show with the Stugatz! This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stugats. I'm going to put off that love is blind conversation until tomorrow, and also, I think, gonna put off that Beatles conversation. I don't know, we'll see if somebody wins an argument

before the end of the show to have the conversation about a Beatles biopic that I thought was out already that's not coming out for three years. Okay? It's actually four biopics. Okay. Mine's gonna be boring. What was that?

What was that? I'm Ringo. Oh, you're Ringo. You're gonna watch mine? I'm excited for Ringo's. The TikTok kids are gonna love Ringo. Limited fake Ringo. Welcome to the program.

Kinda sound like all of them. You have four years to perfect the impersonation and see if it has more range than that I wanted though to get into something that made me feel as things often do these days more and more ancient remember first time I showed up on the set of pardon the

interruption Tony Kornheiser was already complaining about being old and he's only gotten older since. And he's more and more of a curmudgeon. And I can't believe I am now him in this regard around here. Tony asked me before the show today and he was serious about this. I know Pat Sejak is an old head and he said once upon a time on the show, he said, you no longer have to learn anything he was lamenting it you just have to know how

to find it it's a new way of learning but tony asked me before the show today something that was legitimately stupefying to me which is how did you get to places before you had the internet to tell you when you were lost he asked me and it was genuine curiosity

He had and and I Looked at him and I'm like you mean like a map Like or asking paper map or asking directions. You mean map quest calm Tony. It was a crazy time, bro so it was it was born of this idea right so I had ordered a pizza the other day and I'm sorry, bro. It was born of this idea, right? So I had ordered a pizza the other day and I just take for granted that they know the address to my house because they put in their GPS

and they show up 30 minutes later, here's your pie. So I was singing, I was like, man, 1993, you call up your chain pizza store and be like, hey, I want two pepperoni pizzas. I want one Chacarone pizza. I'm six years old after a Marlins game, yep. Yeah, like I want two pepperoni pies sent into the house You know 83 74 Southwest

837th Ave and the guys like okay be there in 30 minutes They would make the pizza then a guy would get in the car and just go find your house and 30 minutes later Everybody here's your pies and it's like how did you find like does he look at the street number first? Like what do you look at first? So the street number tells you, the zip code tells you also, they have maps that tell you where certain street. Hold on, Jessica, what are you laughing at so hysterically back there?

What are you laughing at? I think Chris Cody feels like a need to advance conversations in the show, but in doing so is playing a very dumb character. And lately he has been saying very stupid things and then reassuring all of us that he actually knows the answer to the stupid thing he just said,

because I think he thinks that his on-show persona is now bleeding into our actual perceptions of him as a human being. So he's making the joke on air for the audience, being a little dumber than he actually is. When you look at first, the street or the number? Is a zip code matter? But Tony was asking legitimately before the show. He's looking at me, stupefied.

He wasn't doing content. He was asking as is a genuine curiosity. Hey caveman, back before you could just go to your phone and get to where you wanted to go. How did you do it? I lived it and I would still explain to people, do you know how hard it was to connect with somebody outside of a stadium before cell phones

if one of you was lost? Was mapping and driving a thing back then? Instead of texting and driving, it's like some guy's going down the street. He's like Yes National lamp who's light on there's no flashlight. There's no phone light So it's like button here. Let me angle it up. Yeah, people had physical maps in their cars No way you guys did your parents ever like put the fear in God in you that if you turn the light on inside your car

You were going to go to federal prison federal prison if you turn on the lamp I believe that until very late like until I was driving I turned the light off Is that what they got pulled over? They all did it to all of us. Is that what that glove box is for? The maps? One of the things I wanted there was gloves No way People actually put gloves in there?

In other, yes, in colder cities, yes. But also, well, all right, let's ask these questions. At Levitator Show, glove compartment, is it? Should be a map compartment. For your registration? For your gloves? For your weed. For your pistol.

Or for your pistol. The blicky. I also, I'd like to understand legitimately as I speak to some younger people. You're really confused about this. You don't know what it's like to just roll down your window and ask someone for directions in a neighborhood. It's only more so for the pizza delivery guy. That's only hot.

That's where I'm like, so I was born in a generation where we had to learn the streets prior to the GPS coming out, right? So like, if you put me anywhere in Miami, I will figure out where to go and how to get back home. Cause naturally I know that Flagler's Zero Street, everything above is Northwest, everything below is Southwest,

Crap, Court, Road, Avenue Place, where's the Manium. You know what, I'm gonna stop you right here, Tony, and I'm gonna make you as an exercise. with John Reed to Hyalia where the streets have no names As a grid of death punishment, I'm gonna have Hyalia's famously you don't know the streets don't make any sense That is true And so if I put you in Hyalia I could lose Tony for three days with John Reed their phones if I make yes

I tell him you cannot get out of here without a map. Find this location where my father had ran a factory in Hialeah. You will get lost in the Everglades. The problem is that it's like East 49th Street, but also 103rd Street on the same street. And they're like half and half on the Sima phone. I've noticed that people from New York

are better at this than most people like I heard I mean talking to someone the other day about like where are you in New York? Oh 34th and 50 But the streets make sense It's the easiest in New York and it's I'm gonna be honest you it's easy anywhere where it's a grid cuz Phoenix is a grid So if someone gives me cross streets, I know exactly where they live like it's alright I'll find it when it's name streets, that's when you're cooked. No, Phoenix is name streets in a grid, but you can find it easy.

If someone says, oh, I'm on the corner of Camelback and Central, I know exactly where that is. Let's make a grid of death punishment, Tony. You have to create the content one day, trying to get out of Hialeah without your phone. Because it's the hardest. It's the only place that doesn't coincide with the grid of my hands.

That makes no sense. You're on 49th Street one second, and now you're on 12th, and it doesn't make any sense. It's because Jose said so. So, Tony, is it because the pizza person has to know so many addresses that you're that impressed with him?

Because you as just a regular teenager, you probably know where your three best friends live and how to get there. You know how to get to school, maybe basketball practice. But you're saying the pizza delivery person. He knew everybody, so you would call. And then sometimes he would know people by voice. So my dad would call.

Hey, Tony! All right, yeah, let's do it. And then like you think- You want a Chakarone pizza? Things used to be different back in the day. There used to be a creepy pizza lady that would come to my door and my mom would be like, Chris, who wants to say hi to you? and she like pinched my cheeks like hey, sonny

Here's your cheese pizza. You're gonna grow up to be so dumb. I miss that lady. I wonder where she's that she's dead I have some fire Marshall bills the pizza delivery person. It's it felt a little it felt a little fire Marshall bill She's Irish now, then you guys are like a Shakuroni pizza You guys are impressed by the pizza delivery people. How about I yearn I yearn for a time when the cab driver or the Driver of any sort livery cab whatever knew how to get to places Nowadays these uber drivers don't even know how to get to the airport. You don't need to know any other destination. The most frustrating thing in my life right now

is when an Uber driver is about to make a wrong turn. When I can see, like, our turn is like, no, it's up. It's a cool mile. Why are we starting the turn now? And I'll just be like, no, it's the next one. You guys do that move or it's just like, it's not. Always. You're passive.

I start to scratch the back of my head like I'm like accidentally saying it like it's actually up there The thing is Dan you know when there's there's roots since you live at your house You know that there's specific ways to go at specific times and sometimes the GPS will put you in a shit way Where it's like I know I can't go down the street at this time. We got to go the other way So I'll tell the guy hey don't listen to GPS I'll tell you I got reprimanded by my wife and a friend the other day because I told the UPS driver You're going the wrong way, and they both said let him do his job. Why were you in the UPS truck? I'm sorry an Uber driver Wow

I was in an Uber That's exactly what I was doing Hey, take that box over there that door I would have said why am I in this truck I called an Uber and then the UPS drunk shows He opened his back and walked right in He didn't shift with a UPS driver I'm gonna start opening shit I swear to God Valentine's Day gift

Dan came home wearing brown shorts What did brown do for you, Dano? Can you guys explain to me why it is that pizza is the great unifier? Because I think pizza might have to be the greatest of all the things, where Jessica, the way that she lit up at the idea of the childhood hood,

her ordering a Shakarone pizza. What is that? Shakar ordering a shakaroni pizza. What is that? Shakaroni pizza. Shakaroni pizza. A shakaroni pizza. Okay. The delight that came over you with that, I wonder if the thing that we all love the most is pizza together.

It's the greatest thing. It's the all time, it's the number one seed in terms of you want to have a food that almost everybody can do. I'm not even talking about food I'm talking about a thing. Wow, pizza the greatest number one seed of everything the greatest thing is pizza if we oh It's just like pizza. Wow That noise

Okay, it's probably better, but not for Dan just goes Oh pizza I mean pizzas just pizza pizza with sex winning the lottery Okay food fine good pizza over a lot of food. I'm I'm I'm rattled because everywhere now I see a scam It's it's how Stu gots has gotten away with it all these years He is the guy on the side of that road trying to sell me jewelry He has had giant meetings with skipper and publishing companies. He's got a giant publisher. How is his book not written? He's number one on Amazon. How was his book not written and he's I've got things to do. I don't have time.

It hurts. It would be a thousand words. You should have someone else write it for you. Cause it's StuGuy. Like, you know, I feel like there's some. He won't read it. Yeah, he won't know. It's a good idea.

I'll write it. I'll write it for you. ChatGPT. I'm not doing that. I have Chris Wright and I have spelling mistakes and stuff, backwards S. A book that's still unwritten It's number one on Amazon. It can't be number one. What what obscure category in the category of unwritten but still yet available for purchase

It's a one-of-a-kind look right not written by its author sports essays. I believe One sports written by its author sports essays I believe the number one sports essay It's because I'm the sucker Don Lebatard he said while you were off there uh while the connection was bad he had mentioned that uh you have lost a lot of weight and that he admires that what got into you why did you decide I thought it was all I thought we enjoyed being about the munchie yeah it's luring again okay the connection is bad again unfortunately back to Magnus okay back to Magnus for Magnus and this is going about as well as it could go thank you Billy again for laughing in my face still gots Magnus guess we can hear you. Hello. Yes, sir. Action. Action. Man, I'm really sorry. This is the this is literally the worst way to ever do this. This is burning my heart that this

is happening. But if you can hear me, just understand I'm sorry. This is the Dan Levittar show with still gots. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, all right, I'm not as good at this as Mike is. Oh, at least you're on beat. Oh, that sound right there. And these are my senses dulling. I used to be an accomplished debater of sports things back when I was sharp. Oh.

But that's the sound of me getting checkmated when I was trying to argue pizza is the best thing. And Chris checkmated me with sex is better. That's the sound. Sex would like a word is what he says. Sex would like a word and I had no answers for that after trying to summon the contrivance of is pizza the best thing?

It is. I mean it's great. It is. In the non-sex category. It is in the non-sex category, but just conversationally as a topic, it's great. It is. In the non-sex category. It is in the non-sex category, but just conversationally as a topic, it's stupid. But true. I think we can agree on pizza almost more than anything.

We can't agree on sex as much as we can agree on pizza. That's true. Just generally. But the, Jessica introduced me to a type of pizza. I did not know existed So forgive me for not knowing I have not been listening to any of those Advertisements that Shaq is in for the pizza commercial. So I know he's involved with pizza, but I have no idea I've never listened to one of those ads. Chakarone You are looking right now at the one and only

Chakarone how do they get so many pepperonis close to the crust like that shit ton of pepperonis never been half It's never happened. I went into the Papa Johnson. I said we need more pepperoni No, the funny thing about this is that doesn't happen if Papa John doesn't say the n-word. I don't need pep on my crust Whoa, we Roy's doing the domino meme. We're like the tiny domino is Papa John saying the n-word and then the giant one is How about Chris? Chris Cody not listening at all. Yeah, that was bad timing The last word that Roy said not listening at all Chris what were you listening to? I was like Roy's probably not gonna go anywhere controversial

I'm just gonna get in right after this line. It's the perfect reaction though. Oh See what did I say? I said I said I What did you say? I don't know what you said one of the dumbest things ever Yeah, I very strong pepperoni opinion. He said I don't need pep on my crust And yet no one heard it. Thanks Roy Welcome because you know what you're going to complain that none of us heard you after you didn't listen at all to what roy said the comedic part of it was me calling it pep

i don't need a pep on my crust at the rio let me get uh... let me make an apology here to the audience and i mean help me with this is uh... by way of transition because this show for me and for us has largely been for many many years something that I imagine as audio where we don't act like we know that we're being watched but sometimes we're just watching videos here lately as we transition to a video company that doesn't want to like I I don't know, I do

not want to alienate our core base of audio audience and sometimes we're, now I'm asking you to go watch on YouTube if you want a supplemental experience, but I always like to think of this as audio first and so what I'm asking you is I've got two videos here of Madonna falling out of a chair and an NYPD dance team that embarrasses Jessica and Lucy and some others around here, but I have not seen any of this video. These are just recent viral videos and I don't know how to do this as audio without alienating the audio audience. If I may, I think we can use our descriptive talents to let people know

what's happening in the videos, but before we do that, I just wanna put out there. You just said pizza's the greatest thing, Chris countered, sex is the greatest thing. I wanna counter with my own, which is people falling down. It's so funny because, and I'll tell you why it's funny. In every video of someone falling down, there is one last desperate gasp of a limb trying to grab onto any stability possible.

And that's when I lose it. I have a friend who was judging me on this, like, how can you, what do you think those people falling down videos, that's funny to you? And I said, hilarious, because of that desperate grasp. Put it on the pole, Juju. What's the best thing? Pizza, sex, or people falling down?

Because it's a hell of a nominee. I mean, can anyone put a fourth in this category? Because I think we've closed the categories, because that's a hell of a nominee. But can you answer my question? How do we not alienate the audience? Alienate? Alien, can you tell us?

By playing videos that they can't see. Amigo, Miami, talk contigo. I'm not doing well. I have two video here. I tried to come in and help Amin and it didn't work. I told you we'll do play by play It's all right. We're pretty good describers of things. All right. Let's not really let's go first to Madonna Please falling off of a chair. I have been amazed by her career the number of times she has reinvented herself But this is not her falling off of a chair that is her dancer failing her she saved it there with that role now she like she's like now she's like it was that was all on

purpose the dancer man he's like a virgin it's like his very first time ever pulling her off her chair oh wow that you know what really love on either really I don't feel like you're you wasn't, I didn't see it coming. Oh, whoa! That's what I felt. You're really overworked, Jess. You, it sounds like you need a holiday. So true. Oh my God. I, uh-

It does look like one of the legs snaps in half though. Well, but I know people like to make fun of Madonna performing at 65, but I can't help but be amazed by the fact that she's out here still making relevant art 50 years into her career, 40 years into her career. It's crazy. My friend Priya just saw her at MSG and said her show was fantastic, Dan. So is your friend Pia now the new Charlotte Wilder? Is that what's happened here? Why are we why are we making so many mentions of your friend Priya? She's awesome. Have you ever met Priya? Well, she mentioned Charlotte a lot and now she works here

so Priya will be here soon. Is that what's, it's supplemental? That's what's- Oh, that'd be great. That's a great tactic. That's a good job, are you just, because look, Charlotte's awesome too and now she's here. Priya is awesome.

I got an idea. What's that, Chris? Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Oh, wow.

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