The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: The Poors (feat. Jessica Smetana)

Episode Date: July 9, 2025

We go around the Wheel of Issues with Jess, Mike Happens to Know details about Scott Frost's tenure at Nebraska, and Tony provides an explanation of what took place in Vegas after Brad Tavares called him out. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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listen. A truly terrible batch of calls, put it on the poll at Lebatard Show, is the worst thing you can do to a friend asking them to help you move at Lebatard Show. Can you, before we spin Jessica's new, newly minted Wheel of Issues, Zaz, can you please set up for the audience? You created a great stir yesterday

with your parenting conundrum. I'd like to present it to Jessica. Where are you on your 16-year-old informing you that he was leaving the state to go to a UFC fight? He had already bought his tickets, bought his plane ticket, and was just going without asking permission. He was just informing you.

Yeah, so I'm not doing shtick here all right i'm i'm being i'm being serious and we discussed it yesterday everyone seems to be adamantly against all up me my wife allowing this i got so many messages on social media guys hit me about that's as low show and everyone is like not this is really stupid if you're going to allow this so again, like I said, I'm not doing schtick here where I I became pretty uncomfortable yesterday with it. Like I didn't like the response

I didn't like how it all made me feel and I talked to my wife when I got home yesterday and we're like we we got to find a way to not allow this to happen I don't like it. Zazz, so wait a second. You're talking about UFC 318 at the smoothie king center in New Orleans? No no no in Chicago next month. Oh okay I was gonna say that's a massive one. Still but Chicago. Chicago's a big one too my son loves UFC is the reason why he's going. Sure of course. They should come down to the card. If you're talking about Poirier versus Max Holloway though you gotta let him go. No no no it's not that one. Okay was gonna say. I was gonna card bro. Jessica, what are your thoughts here? Do you have any advice for Zaslow?

Because we were between like that was disrespectful and there doesn't appear to be any authority in the house if your 16 year old is informing you that he's doing this instead of asking for permission. Yeah, I mean, geez, there's a lot of red flags going on. I would say one thing, my parents would never, ever, ever let me get on a flight out of state. I would never even have an access to a credit card

where I could book a flight out of state to do anything without getting their express written consent. So that's where I would maybe side with this. Tony, it's Duplesis versus Shalaya. Oh, that's a massive one too. No, you gotta let it go. Yeah, yeah. You say they're all massive.

Hamzat versus, you don't get it. I'm not talking to you. My son loves all the Arab fighters. Hamzat, he's from Russia, but yes. Hamzat versus DDP is a massive fight. We're gonna spill. Things get confusing sometimes we're gonna do you feel better or worse about it if you sent Tony with them I know I'd feel

better about yes absolutely as an adult my little cousin dude let's go I wouldn't better I wouldn't feel better about that I wouldn't feel a great suppose to me as long as it's not a lens he's in good hands I Would feel about the same if I was sending Tony you want to go dude? I might if Tony were around I would not put my teenage son in the company What are you guys laughing about back a lot? All right? Alright, so the wheel of issues, I'm just gonna inform Jessica and the rest of you what's on the Wheel of Issues, and Jessica will tell me what it's landed on, okay?

We've got the following on the Wheel of Issues. We've got Joe Burroughs' Batmobile plans, they have changed. Scott Frost is now at UCF again. He said the Nebraska job, what did he learn? Don't take the wrong job. Asia Wilson has injured her wrist. The news from yesterday that you no longer have to take your shoes off at the airport. The surprise at Red Bull where the team principal is out and

then the thing we were talking about earlier today where do you call a balk on a pitcher who was startled by a lightning strike. Let's go ahead and spin the wheel of issues and see what it is that it lands on. That's new writing, I can't see it from here. Jessica, what did it land on there? Oh, well, I landed on the Batmobile, Dan. Joe Burrow bought what? What was it? One of six of the Batmobiles used

in one of the Batman franchise movies? Well, what happened is Joe Burrow told us he was going to buy one of the Batmobiles used in one of the Batman franchise movies? Well, what happened is Joe Burrow told us he was going to buy one of the Batmobiles during Hard Knocks last year. And then according to the new Netflix show, Quarterbacks, he said since his home invasion, he's now decided to change his plans. He will not be getting a Batmobile,

which to be honest with you, this is a real bummer of a story because I kind of wanted to see Joe Burrow driving a Batmobile. He was gonna buy the one that looks like a tank from Dark Knight There were only how many made do I have the number right when I say six because this was a white wasn't this like A three million dollar car that he had he had bought I didn't even know there was such a thing as a three million dollar car to be honest with you. Yes, you did No, I didn't I didn't know I didn't know I didn didn't know. I didn't know outside of F1. I imagine some of the cars

in F1 are are $3 million cars, but I didn't know that there was an automobile that a human being could purchase outside of race. You never heard of Bugatti. They're more than they're $3 million. Yeah. Okay. Sorry, Tony. I didn't just hang up my card and someone else figures outside of my pay range. Sorry. Did not know. Black card. Well, if you wanna talk about F1, we have to spin the wheel again, Dan.

All right, let's spin the wheel again and see if Christian Horner ends up being on the wheel. Let's see. I do wanna talk F1, but the wheel answers to no one. What did it land on there, Jessica? I landed on the balk. So did you guys watch the video clip of this we did in the first hour let's play it let's go ahead let's play it again for Jessica one and

one the can on Paulie a huge crash of lightning is Contreras kicked and it's a ball Wow they're gonna call that a balk and everybody jumped. Mother Nature gives Jacksonville a run. I didn't think he was going to say nature there. Norfolk is arguing the Colbadeck. I don't know how you can argue with it. Mother. His broadcaster voice?

Yes. Mother. How do the broadcasters say, I don't know how you can argue with it. I love that Contreras immediately put up his hands like someone who was being held up at gunpoint. Like he's sort of pointing to the umpire, come on, that's lightning. You can't call a balk on me there. What are your thoughts there, Jessica?

My thoughts are towards the end. Number three, when he runs in, is he making fun of the pitcher? If you watch towards the end, he sort of does like this thing, and I don't know if he's making fun of himself being startled by the lightning or making fun of the pitcher, but that's my favorite part of this whole video.

The pitcher backing off of the mound, like I have done nothing wrong. My hands are up, I am not armed. Right here, he's like, wait for it, wait for it, ah! Yes. I think he's kinda staying there, I did that too. Everybody did. The guy in the batter's box tried to play it all cool.

He was really scared, and then he was like, it was a balk, right? I think they should have called a balk on everyone on the field. They should have just called an assortment of balks on everybody. Like false art, everybody but the center? Just everybody.

They have a lightning delay, Like it's an option. Not in the middle of a motion though. But that's a call. You just make the judgment, okay, that was lightning. They always call, I play pickup soccer. You hear a lightning strike like that, immediately the alarm goes off, hey, everybody off the pitch.

That's a call from the umpire, hands up, everybody let's go into the dugout, this is dangerous. Not like, hey, let's stand here on this field that is wide open with lightning that is very clearly within range. Where would the like where do you think the umpire would have let it go? Does it have to start hail? Like do ice cubes have to fall from the sky on to people where it's like alright everybody hold on a second. Well let me ask the rest of you here because I didn't notice this did the umpire, because I didn't notice this. Did the umpire also flinch? Because it would be funny if the umpire also flinched

and then just pointed at the pitcher and blamed him for flinching. I've been locked in trying to see, because I initially said that, because everybody on the field did, but with all the padding and the mask on him, I gotta give it to the umpire. Seems pretty common cool.

The umpire's locked in. If he's not fazed by it, then maybe I'm wrong. Umpire was waiting to call that balk all his life. All his life he's been waiting for that moment. Let's go ahead and spin the wheel again and see what else ends up being on the wheel. We got Scott Frost, got Asia Wilson, got shoes at the airport, got Red Bull.

What did it land on there? Oh, it actually landed on Red Bull this time. Yeah, so Christian Hor land on there? Oh, it actually landed on Red Bull this time. Yeah, Dan. So Christian Harner, the team principal, CEO, whatever at Red Bull, he was sacked this morning. I woke up to this news, similarly to when the Pope died, a Mike Ryan Instagram DM informed me of this happening.

So this is pretty shocking. He had been at Red Bull for 20 years. Some drivers whole lives, some of the younger drivers on the grid like haven't even been alive in the pre-Christian Horner era. He was a very controversial figure, I would say. A lot of people are celebrating him being sacked from this team because he was embroiled in a sexual harassment scandal last year that a lot of people thought he should have been sacked over which he wasn't and then there has been this ongoing behind-the-scenes power struggle

between him and Max Verstappen and so amid rumors that maybe Verstappen was gonna leave and the team was not performing well this season the car was not performing well and they've had all sorts of issues with promoting younger drivers up to the second seat. He has been sacked. I don't know the official reason yet, but obviously all those things could be a factor in it, and it's pretty pretty surprising. I have a couple questions on this. You mentioned Max Verstappen, the rumors circulating around him, Mercedes heavily rumored around Max Verstappen and reported animosity between the two.

This feels like a move to keep Max happy. He won the poll last week, doesn't even podium a disappointing race. So if they kept the poll position, do you think Horner stays? Well, I think part of the other thing which I haven't mentioned yet, Mike, is that there's been a ton of talent that have left the Red Bull organization, most notably Adrian Newey, who left

for Aston Martin last year. And there has been quite a considerable amount of turnover among some of the top positions there. So I don't think this is just like a thing that they decided because of the recent performance. But I do think the recent performance has really frustrated Max, who's obviously hyper competitive, wants to win every single race that he's in. And so if this is performance related, I don't know what last weekend could have really done for them. Quickly, nerdy question on Formula One,

Nico Hockenberg podiums last week, which by everybody that follows the sport says, this is a shocking development. Basically five drivers at most rotate amongst those podium positions. This is a huge upset. Can you put it in perspective? Oh, I, oh God, I'm so bad at making analogies on my feet.

Someone help me. So no. This is like, no, I can't. I can't. She can't put it in perspective. So while we're at it, I want to put on the poll at LeBittard show. Do you enjoy when people are fired using the verb sacked?

And also put it on the poll at LeBittard show. Do you use the verb sacked anywhere other than football? Because I don't think that I've ever used the word sacked to say anything other than that's what a pass rusher does. I don't use it as a verb, but Jessica really seemed to enjoy saying that he was sacked and sacked over and there was a lot of sacking going on. I mean, it's very British, I think, to say sacked and, you know, this is a very British sport.

So I just went with the common parlance of Formula One. It sounds like you guys are also getting sacked at the dermatologist, though. Put it on the pole. Is Billy getting sacked at the dermatologist? They're asking if we'd like to. Hey, everybody, it's Mike down here in South Florida. As the audience well knows, we've been celebrating a proper championship and we've been enjoying every minute of it.

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Make the most of it at Best Western. Visit bestwestern.com for complete terms and conditions. D'in libertad! I thought that we were past the lightning. I thought that we were past the lightning. I thought that we were better than the lightning and we didn't give the lightning any mind. This is loser mentality.

No, no, no, last year's shirt was World War III. Our group chat has a good feeling about this one. The lightning aren't shit to me. I'm just gonna come right out and tell you right now, we have surpassed the lightning, they're not a formidable foe, they're a joke. Stugats. I don't take them seriously at all. Strike me by lightning, they're not a formidable foe, they're a joke. Stugats! I don't take them seriously at all.

Strike me by lightning. I don't care. Nothing's gonna happen to me. Lightning are soft. I'm not giving them any mind. I'm not paying attention to them this series. On to the next round. This is the Dan LeBattar Show with the Stugats! Let's spin the wheel again please if you would.

I will just tell the audience there's no reason for this but Scott Frost at UCF has said don't take the wrong job. I said I wouldn't leave UCF unless it was someplace you could win a national championship. I got tugged in a direction to try to help my alma mater and didn't really want to do it. It wasn't a good move Oh, I didn't know whether it's what did it land on? No landed on Asia Wilson. So last night ace is Liberty big big huge game Even though the aces are just not playing well this season Asia Wilson's still been playing well because she's you know, a top three player in the league top two player probably

playing well because she's a top three player in the league, top two player probably. Well, top one, but probably Nafisa Collier will be the MVP frontrunner for the rest of the season as she has been. Anyways, she went down pretty hard, fell on both of her wrists, exited the game, was in tier... Well, she came back and shot her free throws, which was pretty awesome, but then left, went into the locker room. She looked like she was really upset. They're doing an MRI on her wrist. This is a pretty big deal. This is a team that, you know, probably would still be in the playoffs,

even despite their struggles and some of the shooting struggles they've had, especially at the guard position, but well, and also at the five. It's been a rough season for the Aces. They really need Asia Wilson, and I don't know how long she's going to be out. The All-Star Games next week. They did the draft last night.

Oh my God, Dan. It's not looking good for Vegas right now. Jessica, I'm sorry to interrupt your segment here, but Mike just whispered in my ear that he happened to know something about Scott Frost. Oh my God, he knows. He happens to know. Come everyone. Come come and listen he happens to know well informed I think Jess also happens to know there are a lot of people that happen to know what exactly happened at Nebraska for Scott Frost and for Scott

Frost no great Scott he happens to know. He happens to know. Gather everyone, get the children. He happens to know. So wise. For Scott Frost to give that quote, I don't know if it's a pep rally and he's just feeding the UCF lore that's around him. For him to say anything about what happened at Nebraska is wild. A lot of people protecting Scott Frost there. It was a pretty open secret how unprofessional he was.

Really? Yeah. I happen to know that when you spin the wheel and it lands on a topic, you're supposed to talk about that topic. And we spun the wheel and it didn't land on Scott Frost, Mike. I'm sorry. Yeah, look, don't put this on me. Dan was the person that said I whispered in his ear. You know why I whispered in his ear? Because I was respecting the wheel

and not saying it over the air. Let's spin it again. Let's see if it turns off Scott Frost or not. It's nice that you happen to know. What did it land on there, Jessica? So did you guys know you don't have to take off your shoes at the airport anymore? Well, I... It landed on TSA, Dan, sorry.

Well Jess, no, because I have TSA pre-check to avoid that inconvenience. And others. My wife takes an extra pair of socks to the airport because they generally force us to do that stuff. She doesn't. Dan, how do you not have pre-check? What? She does not like, I do now have pre-check, but because of this is the reason that we

ended up getting pre-check, because of how disgusted she is by the airport in general. But you guys realize that- What's the extra pair of socks for? Her socks get dirty from touching the floor, then she changes socks? Yes, she doesn't like airport floors. But I remember, do you guys remember where and how this rule got instituted? Because after 9-11, they were doing all sorts of ridiculous security stuff that made the

lines three and four hours and then someone ended up on an airplane and got arrested because they were trying to light their shoe which had a in it, and they couldn't successfully do it, but they'd gotten the bomb on the plane and they'd gotten the shoe on the plane, and then they changed the rule, and this is why it's the illusion of safety. They're like, okay, everybody take your shoes off now, and there haven't been any shoe bombs since then,

so in 20 years, they've now changed the rule. Right, there was a guy who tried to, I believe the flight was to Miami, it was Paris to Miami, he tried to bring explosives on the plane in his shoe. And so they changed the rule in 2006, like years after this had happened. And I listened to a podcast, You're Wrong About podcast, not that long about ago about this, where they talked about like if the shoe bomb would have

even been something that would have worked because it would have to obviously be tiny to fit in your shoe. And so, yeah, Dan, I think there are a lot of people who thought this was just sort of like security theater for the longest time because, you know, a lot of countries don't make you take off your shoes. Obviously, if you have a pre-check,

you don't have to take off your shoes. If you wear your shoes and you go through those scanners, like wouldn't those scanners detect any sort of, you know, things hidden in your shoes? I don't really know the ins and outs of it, but this sort of happened just very quietly, like three days ago, where I guess Homeland Security was like, hey, you guys don't have to do that anymore.

Okay, sure. I want a new perk, like for TSA pre. Like I want a new perk because at first it was like, the line's not as long, but now the line is just as long because anyone could get TSA pre, like I want a new perk because at first it was like the line's not as long, but now the line is just as long because anyone could get TSA pre, virtually anyone could get TSA pre. So the line is not all that much faster. But then it was like, well,

I just don't have to take off my shoes. What is our only perk now? Yeah, what's my perk? The laptop. Laptop. Yeah, but I take a laptop and an iPad so I have to take one out anyways. And Billy, the other perk,

according to pre-check people, which I am a part of, and I don't necessarily agree that this is a perk anymore, is that the pre-check line tends to move faster because people tend to be frequent travelers. So if you're in the non-pre-check line, maybe it's someone who's flown once in the last six years, versus pre-check, it's probably a seasoned traveler

who's just going through there. They know what they're, I was gonna say whipping off their shoes, but you don't have to whip off your shoes obviously, but yeah, they know what they're doing. But I don't necessarily think that that's true. The main perk is just feeling better than the other people. Yeah, you don't have to be in line with all the pores. Just feel superior.

Did Tom Segura and his wife, the Pores, You just feel superior. Did Tom Segura and his wife, the Pores, are they the ones who popularized that phrase by getting, I mean it's one of the things that hurt. I believe it was Marie Antoinette then. The Pores have been around for a long time. The Pores have been around since there was money. Before Christina P and Tom Segura, yeah. Yeah, but most recently Segura has gotten into trouble.

Bezos has also said the poor is a lot. Has he? He has to. Privately for sure. I don't think. What are we doing, come on. Put it on the poll at Levitard Show, does Bezos in private refer to everyone as the poor?

Everyone else as the poor. Jessica, I'm sorry, it was a great maiden voyage for the wheel, but we're out of time, so we can't get to the Scott Frost one. It doesn't appear like that one came up this time. Yeah, but it'll be on the wheel next week, I suppose. Okay, well, I'll be back. Sounds good.

Thank you, good seeing you. Appreciate the time. Mike, what's happening? Don't you betray that confidence. I was mime-ing over to my friend over here, Tony, is what Scott Frost was doing over at Nebraska. I'm ready.

Okay, so that's all the information you're going to give us on happen to know? I'm one of the people that are protecting Scott Frost from himself over there because everyone that covers college football knows what happened pretty much at Nebraska and the fact that it wasn't necessarily the most professional experience. So for him to impart from on high some sort of wisdom, as if, you know, here's what I learned, I just took the wrong job. Maybe have some ownership of what went wrong there.

You took a job at your alma mater, a dream job, and you said you failed there because they weren't built to win a national championship, a little accountability. I can understand if you said that and you did all the right things. By all accounts, the people that were in and around that program, people that do a very good job of covering the sport, you didn't necessarily approach it the right way to have success over there. So just a crazy thing for him to say. Why bring attention to it?

Because we continue holding the secret for you, pal, if you don't. Oh my God, he knows. Look, I'm a college football expert. Maybe you forgot, all right. I travel with ESPN radio, college football tailgate. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know about this Scott Frost situation. I'd like to know. You just started doing that beat.

Around the beat for a little bit longer. Show you the ropes, kid. I'm gonna read it to you again from Scott Frost on what he learned from Nebraska. Quote, don't take the wrong job. I said I wouldn't leave UCF unless it was someplace you could win a national championship. I got tugged in a direction to try to help my alma mater

and didn't really want to do it. It wasn't a good move. I'm lucky to get back to a place where I was a lot happier. Watch what happens. I think there's gonna be a lot of people around that Nebraska program. He may have coverage because he was a legend for the program over there and did well by them

But if you're gonna start pointing the finger at other people over there a lot of people that kind of covered up for you And protected you and decided hey, we're just gonna move on this doesn't work. You can go back to UCF Whatever they're gonna start talking it was one of the biggest disasters anywhere in college football and He was a lot happier at UCF at least in part because they didn't lose very much at UCF and they did a ton of losing at Nebraska and he came off of an undefeated season in which they could have or should have won the national championship and he goes to a program where they were a laughingstock the entire time that he was there.

Don Lebatard. No one else here is willing to do a Trump or a Biden. That's not true, Dan. Okay, Tony, you can catch- Man of a thousand impersonations. That's not bad, man. Finally. Not terrible.

Pretty good. Stugatz. Yours is terrible. You just gotta get a little redder, a little pinker. You're right there, man. Yours is not. You're gotta get a little redder, a little pinker. You're right there, man. Yours is not. You're biting me. What do you mean? Oh, his is good. That's actually not bad. Not terrible. That's not terrible.

We gotta come together. Little southern twang there. Little George Bush in that one. This is the Don LeBattar Show with the Stugats. with these two guys Speaking of laughing stocks Tony you have an answer to that our Tony We have some UFC Updates Zazzle's kids's going. Great card. Great card. Only if you're allowed to take him at his house. I mean again, I'll take him. Uncle Tony, I'll take him over there.

We'll have fun. The laughing stock thing that I am bringing up is only because I'm going to play for the audience. Something that happened. Tony went to Las Vegas for the last UFC fight. What he is doing with those MMA hangouts on Saturday is great.

A lot of people are following what he and Lewis and others for us are doing whenever there's a UFC card. But he promised us that he was going to spar with a former champion, Brad Tavares. And that never materialized. And Tony came back here and said, this is the reason that it never materialized. I finished hitting those kicks, right?

We finished the round. I'm obviously a little tired, but I think I won the round. All of a sudden I see Brad pick up his stuff and he left. No, I can't believe you're doing this. He was not, he was like, hey, I don't know. I don't know about this. I don't want to, you know, whatever I got to do. Wait till Billy Gil hears about what you're doing right now.

I'm just saying. So what you're suggesting is that. The idea was for us to spar and then he left. He had to go. He didn't say that once, he made the allegation twice of again a former champion, Brad Tavares in UFC, that he was scared, that he ran scared from everything that Tony was doing with the heavy bag.

Thank you. Okay, I don't want. He ducked that other guy. That other guy ducked me, I was there, he wasn't. You mean, okay. Well you showed him too much. By the way, a lot is coming from a lot of guys that would not step into the octagon to do anything you stepped into the octagon to not do anything oh I did nothing that's what

the report was earlier today. You didn't spar. I mean not my fault I was there. Tony where are you on the sound that we're about to play that some astute listeners have sent us. Have you seen this sound? I was on a boat in the weekend. I was in the Keys all weekend enjoying great time with my family. As we were getting off the boat, I was sent particular messages from Reddit that I never check. And I saw that Justin on his show, Still Friends,

had Brad on. And there was something had happened. I didn't watch the video. I didn't really click on the link I was on the boat I was like I'm good and then I was told hey he said what had actually happened and apparently this is it. Wait so this is your first time watching this video? Yes. Wow that's great. What's the point of this lie? He doesn't check credit. It's not a lie. I was sent look I was sent I'll show you the text I was sent the video. We're covering up lies with more lies for no reason. I didn't look I was sent. I'll show you the text I was sent the video covering up lies with more like I didn't watch the video

I didn't need to watch the building always supportive of all the things that Tony does always support him We haven't learned the lesson from last week, and we're just adding more lies to this for some reason Is a podcast really called still friends? Yeah, he doesn't know he's never heard of it He's never been on the internet. I've been on I've been on the still friend show and my boy Justin I've been on he's never been on the internet. I've been on I've been on the still friend show and my boy Justin Once again on a wild Willy Wednesday Billy always supportive of all the things that Tony does I'm trying to help him a little honesty will get you I miss slightly I can swear to everything that is holy to you that I did not watch the video So we're gonna watch it together here and Billy as you know if you've been listening to the show for a while

Has Tony is a rival and a nemesis and he does not try to help him ever try to help him and this one was embarrassing for Tony because Brad Tavares told the real story and it didn't quite go the way that Tony said according to Brad Tavares. Well he's catching the most shit I was watching today's show he's catching all the shit right now for not sparring you all Tony. Yeah, and you know what Tony said what? He said Brad saw him in the bag Only turned around and Brad was running out the door You got a response to that Brad you gotta do a round bra I see I seen him hit in a bag and I was like

Oh, bro, I'm not trying to get arrested for homicide or anything. I was like, bro I thought this guy had at least some experience. Not the clip I wanted, get me the second clip that is the real story of what it is that actually happened there because Brad Tavares has a different experience with everything that Tony ended up claiming there, and there was a different accusation made. That was the plan.

Originally, 10 day Tony from the Dan Levitasian. He was supposed to come through and we were supposed to do a spar, but in the beginning I think they might have forgot some equipment. And then bro, like 130 rolls around, we're not doing anything, kind of just talking about this, that, whatever. And I was like, okay guys, let's go. And they're like, oh no, we're waiting on a lens. And I was like, that, whatever. And I was like, okay guys, let's go. And they're like, oh no, we're waiting on a lens. And then I was like, oh, okay.

Like, and I was thinking, oh, they gotta go run out to the car to get it. And then they're like, oh, we gotta go run to Best Buy. I was like, Best Buy? And then they're like, oh no, no, it's just right down the road. I was like, bro, I know where Best Buy is. We live here. We live here.

I live here. I know exactly, like, bro, you're not gonna go Best Buy, look for this lens, purchase them, and be back in like five minutes Yeah, no, like there's a whatever so I was like whatever I'll give him a little bit more time and then bro like one it was like 145 150 I said brah, I gotta leave like let's go. Let's do whatever you gotta do You guys figured out just do it on the iPhone iPhone is great. Now. Yeah, I mean, they're like yeah, let's go so we just ran them through two rounds

Do you know what an upset it is that those guys use the word bro more than you and Lewis did? See this is what I was explaining to Justin the guys there. They're obviously Hawaiian or Cuban There's a very close-knit like something or other like community between Hawaiians and Cubans There is yeah very very much kindred spirits. Island nations. Yeah. Really? Yeah. The rock married a Cuban. That's not what this video is about though. Yeah, that is. No, but he, but that's what he said. He said that they said bro more and I said, yeah, there's a very kindred spirit.

Put it on the pole. Uh, are Hawaiians and Cubans kindred spirits because of their Island pork. Uh, Billy, how did this news arrive at your doorstep and what was your reaction when this news arrived at your doorstep? I wasn't surprised. I just put it as plainly as possible. I wasn't entirely surprised.

I had heard rumblings before Brad told us what happened. I heard rumblings of what went on. Tony, how is it that we sent five people to Vegas and not only didn't get sparring done, arrived late and didn't have the proper equipment? How does that happen? Well, Dan, it's a process over results kind of situation. We had a process and things were left out of said process that I had no idea about because

I don't pack the bags and do those things. I show up to do the things that I had scheduled to do and once we are ready to do said things and I'm told, wait, no, we have to get something, I'm like, okay, so how do I buy time with this guy who's a natural born killer and I'm standing three feet away from him And I'm gonna have to fight him at some point. What are we gonna do? So we did the workout coach Eric was great Brad was great again. He's gonna throw some shade because it is what it is, but Since you obviously didn't see the video I didn't that's the first time I watched oh, there's more He says you don't know anything about him. I'm a you've never you've never trained in your life. I haven't that's true He said that you don't really know the sport

I don't sure if I may see zone sees on one thing and not that because you're being honest and you're eating that yeah Is what is a lens that you need specific to record a fight? We recorded plenty of content and it looked fine, and we didn't have that specific lens for it. If there's ever a point, and this is not pointing any fingers, just in terms of making content, well, I guess we gotta record it off of something. You have your cell phone, like get the fight,

get the stuff. You needed a specific lens? You can't let him leave after he's been there 45 minutes without getting what it is that you need. With a specific lens? This does not add up. You get the content. The content comes before the lens. If we're putting the lens priority over the fight, what are we doing? See, the way I lead is by delegation, right? And if you're in a specific area, I'm entrusting you that you're in that area and you know what you're doing. And I'm in my area and

we're all in our different areas and we're trying to make things happen. As I'm getting ready to do the thing that I'm there to do, I'm not worried about camera, phone, lens, this, that, the other, I'm just trying to get mentally ready to go fight somebody who's a killer. So you can see how my mindset is somebody else is gonna figure that out as I'm ready to do what I'm there to do. So no one else said, like, hey, let's just

shoot it on something else? Yeah. Sounded like Brad said it eventually. I mean, in Tony's defense, Ozzy Osbourne wasn't trying to make sure all the cameraman had their lenses before his big concert. Tony was there to put on a show. And put on a show he did. And then what did Tony do?

I would say this. Tony displayed some level of leadership in his lies, in which he said, you know what, something was messed up here, but I'm not gonna throw that person under the bus. Instead, I will make up an outrageous lie, and normally, the outrageous lies don't get back to the people that you're lying about.

Who also have shows. I knew it was gonna get back to him, and I knew what the play was, because I had to protect, hold on Billy, I had to protect the guys that I went with. And yeah, there was a mistake made, but I wasn't the one gonna say, hey, this person did this and this person didn't do this

on a show, I'm gonna try and make content around it, I'm gonna try and make sure that my people are safe, and then all of a sudden it comes out and it is what it is. Tony's a guy that likes to make something from nothing. And I think that Tony saw this and he said, you know what, I'm gonna make a diamond out of this situation. We did not get what we were sent there to get.

But we are not gonna accept fault for that. No, we'll tell a story and that what we can get out of this is we can now get, and he was even doing this that day, a four part series with now multiple trips with the boys. So instead of having just the one thing, now this becomes a little tour, and then we can go to Vegas a number of times and keep doing things.

Rematch. Exactly, you're not gonna let that mistake hold you back. And I think what he didn't account for was for Brad coming out and telling the truth. Well, I figured that that could play some sort of part in it. So yeah, if a guy who is tied with Michael Bisping for the most wins in the middleweight division of UFC,

if he hears, Hey, this guy was ducking me or I was ducking him and I was hitting the bags like it was my first time. Cause it was my first time hitting the bags in an MMA session. Thank you. I knew that the competitive juices were going to get up and he was going to say, minor penalty two minutes for lying. So you're going to have to leave for lying and the claims are that you didn't look that impressive They were also quoted as saying that your kicks were wildly unimpressive Let's play that sound as Tony leaves the room in great laughing stock shame What do you what do you think the two-minute penalty for lying was was for Mike because he said I look good

I thought that that's what that was. You know what, Mike can go with you. How was I lying? I'm just telling you what happened. One quick thing, in the post-mortem, was it covered that maybe next time don't prioritize the lens? Tony, did you look at my face and just say,

how was I lying? Is that something that you just said? Yes, because I'm just explaining to you what happened. The whole thing is you lying. You're explaining now after lying. Good news, the post-mormon is on Thursday, so now that could be added to the list. Get out of there, Tony, and play the clip.

Wait, let him hear this. Play the clip about them talking about Tony's kicks. And it was harder for the little guy because they had to partner up. And bro, he always, the little guy, he was way bigger than the little dude. Probably like 70 pounds, something like that. And the little dude, like when they had to partner up and bro he always a little guy he was way bigger than the little dude probably like 70 pounds yeah and the little dude like when they had to the biggest difference I think was when they had to like wrestle each

other oh yeah shot to Lewis yeah he's taking on Tony who's six four yeah so when he had to try take him down bro he's using all this energy and then vice like when his flip they both don't know what they're doing But then the big Tony just big just size wise easy can take him down You know I mean so he didn't have to work his heart at that point Lewis again played the wrong video there That is not the video that I wanted video praising Lewis It seems as though the video team who may or may not have forgotten this lens is Having selective edits of the video that you're asking to play.

Where were the kicks that I asked for? Like, where's that video? I was just told I had 45 seconds of kick video. You remember the skinny guy, Lewis, where he kicked the bag? I was laughing when they was hitting the ground and pound. And we told them we're like, OK, this is going to be like a little active restaurant. But still, when you hit it, hit the bag hard. But you don't need to go all out.

You don't need to be hitting it the whole time. But take a breath, like, breathe, breathe and drop like a heavy shot. And I showed them, I gave them an example. OK, this is how you're going to hit it. Boom, boom. Like, you know, like I hit it. You'll hear you hear the cage like, shake, boom, boom. Bro, they're hitting it. I was I was like bro what are you doing? like are you like trying to give this thing a

shiatsu massage? not even deep tissue bro like one of those sensual massages like let me just