The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: The Sous Chef

Episode Date: July 7, 2025

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I was bad last week gonna be good this week Arizona Diamondbacks Padres You Darvish on the mound for the Padres against Zach Allen Zach Allen a five-something ERA. He's lost it I'm going with the Padres minus one and a half Very happy music there. Yes, Trevor Rogers again threw a bunch of scoreless innings again yesterday after we said that all he does is have an ERA of five. There are a handful of things that I need to get to before the end of the show. Do not let me forget. I need

to publicly apologize for something that embarrassed me last week. Do not let me forget I need to publicly apologize for something that embarrassed me last week do not let me forget to make sure that I do that before I get out of here because I've spent enough time today not doing it I don't know how you guys absorbed the news this weekend and I know many of you have been tired of the way that I talk about climate change, but what happened in central Texas is not something that we have seen a whole lot of where you go from a death count that starts at 20 that ends up over 80 when we're talking about it now, but they still are looking for children when you get four months or six months, four months of rain in six hours, and you get no warning whatsoever when

you're sending your kids to one of 18 sleepaway camps around there, that there's any possibility that you're dropping your kids off for the last time because the water is going to sweep them away because we just have no ability to the way that some of these weather forecasts have been cut through some of the budget cuts to warn people about stuff that doesn't have a precedent and doesn't feel like it has a warning, but you must have some sort of warning that if you're sending your kids to sleep away camp, you're gonna get them back.

And the idea that the water could rise to levels that are between 24 and 30 feet and the Guadalupe River would get to a point so fast that the thing that measures it breaks, that it's a record breaking amount of height on a river where you get your family just swept away in an area or a region where no one expected it. It feels like we're playing like

the world's most negative lottery with natural disasters where you just don't know where it is that you can put people that you love and have them be safe. This is unimaginable. We live in South Florida where we are subject to hurricanes, but we're almost lucky in that we get four or five days of gradual notice when a hurricane is advancing and whether or not it's going to hit us directly. This was just out of nowhere seemingly and as as these weather catastrophes become more and more common, weather forecasting and meteorology should be something that we prioritize as a public safety.

You say that we have a warning for hurricanes, but I wonder when things like this happen, what these kinds of cuts to budget cuts to our forecasts will mean in terms of the accuracy of any and all of these things, given that I'm next to certain that none of those people had any sort of idea that that would even be possible, that you would get four months of rain in six hours i need uh... some sort of uh... palate cleanser some sort of sorbet to allow me to segue from uh... the lack of safety of the moment to something happier so can you give me the status of the music please start of the day start of the day

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information is, and then he had his worst week ever giving information to an audience and offered all of our listeners a refund because he went like one and 11 or oh and 12 or something. But this stats amazing. Alexander Madison had nine rushes inside the five yardline last season. You want to guess what his numbers were? Nine rushes inside of the five yard line. Nine yards. Well, it was zero yards. It's actually touchdowns. It's negative seven yards. Wow. That is the worst anybody's been in 25 years carrying the ball inside the five yard line. Most people

when they have that many carries get at least a total of two yards. Most people get at least a total of negative two yards. He gets negative seven yards. That's kind of amazing, is it not? You go home at night as a running back and you have someone print that and you're mad at that person, correct? You have someone put that information in the public and it embarrasses you.

I believe his, isn't his nickname the Sous Chef? Is it, wasn't his name, because he played behind Dalvin Cook? Do you remember there was that one game where Jerome Bettis had five carries for one yard and three touchdowns? Was that a Super Bowl? According to Google,

Alexander Madison's nickname is Deuce. So close. I'm pretty sure, go look up nickname Sous Chef and see if you find anything. Without seeing it written down, just hearing the name Alexander Madison, I would say, yeah, he signed the Declaration of Independence. Yeah.

It's a good question. Put it on the poll at Levitard show. Alexander Madison, negative seven yards inside the five yard line or sign the Declaration of Independence? When you see it written though, you know running back. When you hear it, you say yeah, he signed that thing. I want you to look up for me the nickname sous chef and I want to see if you guys have to take it back because

I wouldn't make up that I didn't make it up. It's Dalvin Cook was the running back. He cooks and so when you need somebody behind him to get you negative seven yards on nine carries from inside the five yard line, zero touchdowns, you would agree Greg Cody that that's damn near impossible to do. I think that if you put me in a uniform and handed me the ball, and I fell forward to where the quarterback is, I would have about those same stats for nine carries.

I think you would. I think Greg is actually right. Zaslow, you're sitting here laughing, but I do believe that if Greg just took the ball and curled up in the fetal position near the quarterback's legs, he would have about negative seven yards. I just feel like he would have such a hard time getting up.

Well, I mean me at my age. I don't even mean me in my twenties. I could do that now. That's almost impossible to be that athletic and that big and have those stats. Well, he's very athletic. I wouldn't say he's that big. And I see that my entire team is now looking, searching the entire internet for Sous Chef,

but I'm not convinced that Chris knows how to spell Sous. Right. I got there. I was thinking the same thing. I did stumble upon a random tweet, a random person who tweeted, quote, no one calls Alexander Madison a Sous Chef, randomly. But somebody must have said it for someone to tweet

and no one calls him that. The reason I know it is because they said it on the red zone. It's the only reason that I know that is because I'm like, oh, that's clever because I didn't know what a sous chef was. Alexander Madison is the one who taught me what a sous chef was because I did not know or understand the nickname and had to go look it up. You haven't seen like cooking movies?

I know nothing about cooking. You wouldn't know it from looking at my swollen face. Ratatouille? And then popcorn. I don't know anything about cooking. Thank you, Billy, for that fake sincerity. I found a chef, Paul Madison. Is that helpful?

This tweet that I found was on Sunday at 1.33 p.m. So that means he must have also heard on Red Zone. No, it was in 2021, but it was on a Sunday at 1.33 p.m. And he tweeted, no one calls him Sous Chef, so he must have been called Sous Chef on Red Zone. This checks out for me. Damn is right. Close enough, thank you.

What date was it? Let's see if he was playing at that time. I october 17th 2021 all right i'm on it appreciate the support uh billy i don't appreciate anything that you're doing right now um do you fact checking i'm sorry are we not in the industry of truths we are i guess we're not i don't know october 17th what now i read uh thank you for looking up all those facts, I also read, and I don't know whether or not you guys would find this surprising at all because I know how many people all across America are feeling the difference between wealthy people and people who are not wealthy and in general the feelings of inflation that

seem overwhelming at times, but Bloomberg is saying that more than a third of Americans making 250 grand a year are living paycheck to paycheck. And I thought that was stunning. I thought even understanding that there are very few frustrations that anyone listening to this has that are going to be larger than I can't pay my bills or I can't. There's nothing that I can do with my finances or my work to get out ahead of the rising price of things. Bloomberg saying that more than a third of Americans making a quarter million dollars a year as a household or living paycheck to paycheck, that surprised me. I can't fathom it because it seems to me that if that's the case, you must be living over your means.

In other words, you must be living like millionaires when you're not a millionaire. You know what I mean? Like how else would somebody get in that situation making that kind of money? People, the average guy making? 8060,000 a year can't fathom that it's It seems that those numbers seem impossible

And I know a lot of people are confused at all times by the economy that especially confused now by the economy Why are you and your son having a private conversation? He's reprimanding you about the microphone and you're mouthing back at him the word sorry I know as if I had my phone pointed away from him as if I can't see you He's like mimicking with the microphone and I'm just like I just do you not hear the difference? No, I fixed this microphone two hours ago Roy you did everything you could there is no accounting for his general reckless incompetence, Roy.

There's no containing it. It will just spill over whatever your boundaries are. I mean, at least this time, you didn't say the microphone should be following him. No, but theoretically it should. October 17, 2021, the Vikings played in Carolina at 1 p.m. Ooh, so Madison.

Alexander Madison had three carries for 10 yards and the Vikings won 34-28. And one of those carries, the shoe set. Before Zasla gets out of here for a very important ESPN radio hit that he has to do, I just wanna get his general thoughts on fireworks and people filming fireworks. Dan, you gotta be kidding me, all right?

You want to enjoy your fireworks? Fine. Can we live in the now? Can you enjoy the moment? These people who are recording on their iPhone, all of a sudden they're photographers or cameramen they're recording the fireworks are you telling me that a couple days go by and you're just sitting around with your family like

hey gang gather around let's watch the fireworks video I recorded nobody does that nobody who records the fireworks then goes back. Nobody does that. Nobody records the fireworks, then goes back and watches it later on. Why are you recording your fireworks? What about recording my daughter watching fireworks? Good? That's cute. Well, are you gonna go back and watch your daughter

watching fireworks? We're doing it right now, actually. It's nice. Okay, fine, fine, fine. At least you're focused on your daughter there. But recording the fireworks, for what? You're gonna cast it on your TV in your family room? Hey, everybody, it's Saturday night.

Let's watch the fireworks. I believe, isn't it something that they're doing to show all their friends that right then that moment, they're posting that immediately. It's not to look at it later. It's to show everyone that at that moment you're watching fireworks. It's going on around the world. Everyone's watching fireworks. You should post a video not watching fireworks.

I want to make sure everyone knows I'm having a better Fourth of July than them. Right. That's what it is. But everyone's doing the same thing. But mine's not as, mine's better. I want a video of someone staring at the wall on the Fourth of July.

Wow, look at that guy. He's doing something different. All right, Zadzlo, all right, get out of here. Fourth of July. On, look at that guy, he's doing something different. All right, sad slow, all right, get out of here. Fourth of July. On that note, with your rage, get out of here, jog out of here, and you've never looked more alive than when you jog away right now from a fuse on a firework. That is Chris Cody's greatest contribution to our show,

saying that he's never felt more alive than when he is jogging lightly away from a fuse that has been lit. It is a vibrant time. Behind the bit is John Amici this time. We stump him all the time with Stugatsi. He's never won this game. Let's go behind the bit with John Amici trying to figure out what it is that Stugatsi's latest mispronunciation is. You guys ever notice how there's just a fee for everything now? You buy a concert ticket, there's a fee. You rent a place for the weekend? Cleaning fee. Just breathing near an event? How about a processing fee?

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This is behind the bit. For the past 20 years, you've seen and heard bits on the Dan LeBataille show. You may have wondered to yourself, what are these bits? What's wrong with these people? ["Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy"] Who is John Amici? John Amici was a former NBA player

and just a very intellectual man who, I don't wanna say, doesn't have a sense of humor because I don't think that's fair to John, but John takes himself more seriously than we would take ourselves, I would say. And John Amici is someone who would probably not be hanging out in the same circles as Stu gots per se So he's a very well-read man. He's he was he wasn't knighted officially, but he has like a British

Royal title of sorts and just is into very title of sorts and just is into very smart things that go above the head of all of us. Levy scored the first ever points at the Miami Heat's newer arena. He was a close friend of Dan's. He made headlines once he retired when he penned a book where he came out to the nation. John Amici had a really strong relationship with Dan. They were good friends, and he was someone that was always so intelligent and wonderful to have them weigh in on big, important societal topics on our show.

You can never have enough smart people surround your show, especially when you have stugots there weighing the median average down. John, when he met Dan, took him to a gay bar. And Dan did not know that he was gay despite bringing him to a gay bar. He didn't suspect that. I'm like, this is a place to go. Like, OK.

But yeah, that was pretty funny thinking about that. But yeah, like, John is, just like Belmonte, one of the most intelligent people I've ever met. He's a constant ally and we are an ally of him and just all around good man. So we thought, let's play a game and waste John's time and have him try to figure out what it is that Stugatz, who's not well-read, what he's trying to say mid-sentence, mid-thought,

sometimes he just ejects in the middle of the word, sometimes he just mispronounces words. So what we would do is we would save a bunch of clips of Stugatz just not saying words the right way, and then horrify John Amici, who speaks perfect English. And John was terrible at this game and I think he was frustrated because you know as an NBA player as someone who's a successful businessman he has succeeded at many things in life and this is just

one that we knew he was not gonna succeed at, and I think it drove him nuts that this dumb game always got the best of him, and it was really unfair. I mean, some of the words that we would play for him are four or five syllable words that Stugatz would condense down into one syllable and then move on to his next train of thought. So John never really stood a chance in this game.

What is the first mispronunciation from Stugat? Analys. Dallas or analysis? See, I think it's Dallas, but that's too simple. Analysis? That's what I would have guessed. Wow, spot on. That would have been my guess.

Formula. It's either formula, but having said that, I can't imagine a context in which Stugats would have to say that word. Formidable. All right. You are overthinking this. I think it's formidable. Despite Dan trying to help you out, it is formula.

Oh no. Oh no. Draw. Oh, come on now. Draw. I've, I've absolutely got nothing. Drawer. That is a tragedy right there.

Hermaphrodites. Oh. Hermaphrodites hermaphrodites God Most or is it well, that's not my final answer. I'm gonna go with missed. It's most. Oh my God! Oh my God!

Holy sh!t! I was robbed. You were not robbed, you made your own decisions. I was robbed, I'm sorry, that was robbed. You made your own life choices. You had victory in your hands and you let it go. How did this one start? Stugat just pronounces things very poorly

from a broadcaster. And John Amici is so smart. So the idea of him trying to guess what language it is I'm speaking, what words are coming out of my mouth, it's funny. It's such a great idea because all it is is us taking things that have been said in the natural flow of Stugatz,

broadcasting as Stugatz, and he doesn't finish all of his words, is us taking things that have been said in the natural flow of Stu Gott's broadcasting as Stu Gott's and he doesn't finish all of his words and he tries to get to the next thought a little faster before he's finished the other one. Small windows. And so words get jumbled up and so we had an endless library of things that Stu Gott's had mispronounced. What I always loved about that segment

is Mike would give him an easy one, like a fastball right down the middle, just so he can gain some confidence to think this is the time I'm going to win the game. Meach has never won the game. Did he win once? He claims he won once, I'm not sure. The only times he's won

is when we've made terrible mistakes somehow. Right. It's not because he ever deserves to win. But Mike would groove the first one or two win, and then the next three, chain jumps, curve balls, everything. Impossible. And me just swinging and falling to the ground. He can't win. He can't win that game. He always wins. Dan and Stu talked about it being like a palette cleanser. Did you create this bit, Mike? I just knew that we needed a device. Our show is really good at getting people in the tent and with

nonsense and then while they're in the tent we'll have an important discussion and you're gonna be sitting there not really understanding what you're sitting through because we've already put it in your head that we're just going from laugh to laugh and there's gonna be important societal discussions along the way but you're gonna enjoy the journey So we knew that we needed to do something to dress it up. We had come up with Games to play with guests. There was this game that we had called douche or no douche that we had in our back pocket Anytime we needed to spruce up an interview or we weren't exactly sure

Where to take the interview. And I really liked having that as a device. And I knew given how strong Dan and John's relationship was and knowing how playful John was and how much he'd liked our show and like Sue Gotts as a character, I knew he'd be down for this. So it was all about tracking the mispronunciations as it would happen. And we started building up quite the arsenal. I'm proud of that folder.

Roy had a very good ear for it. We'd all kind of mark it like anytime Sugats misspoke, put that in the something-mich file. And we had to immediately write down what we thought Sugots was trying to say, because absent context, there was no way that we were going to figure out what Sugots was going to say. I mean, some of these clips were really ridiculous. I mean, after 20 minutes of super serious conversation

with Dan, you'd eat something. Yes, yes. We would. It's a little bit of sorbet, a little bit of sorbet at the end of a societal conversation that makes your head hurt. It was like a treat for a dog. Yeah, a little bit of sorbet at the end of a societal conversation that makes your head hurt. It was like a treat for a dog Yeah Thank you for giving us 20 minutes of serious shit. Here's two gods

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though, that if they go missing because a shark ate them whole, you wouldn't notice. Classic Shelly. Exactly, right. Stugats. She went quietly, apparently. If I'm swallowed whole by a shark, you're gonna know it. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats. I don't know about the rest of you, but there is something about a stupid movie involving sharks that will make me stop on trailers for shark movies that are made at a really truly surprising to me rate, still because it's been 50 years, 50 years this year since Jaws. And I am now stuck in an algorithm

that keeps giving me information about the movie Jaws just because of how often I will get sucked into a Meg Two trailer. For no reason, just because of how often I will get sucked into a Meg-2 trailer. For no reason, just because there are so many shark movies that I find it legitimately surprising that so many of them are still being made, given that the most famous one and the best one, I'm going to say, remains the first one.

It started as a horror movie. It basically created, ushered in the idea of the summer blockbuster. It ended the idea of the peaceful midnight swim. Like just ended. A movie ended the idea that you would just go into the ocean and not fear that you were going to be attacked by a shark but it doesn't get made very well you'd agree these movies must do well they must because they keep getting made i can't imagine them doing well

because why would anybody want to watch any of these shark movies given that it was done best fifty years ago meg to the trenches budget was one hundred budget was 129 to 139 million dollars. Box office for Meg 2 the Trench 397.8 million dollars. That's the second one and the first one so there'll be a third one then right? I don't know how long before the next edition right? It's been a while since Meg 2 hasn't it? 2023 if Meg 2 made 200 million dollars and it's just great fun to see Jason Statham riding a jet ski away from the We've gotten more and more ridiculous just riding a jet ski barely away from the the Meg's mouth Running on a dock as the the dock gets destroyed behind him.

It's just more asinine. So the Meg, the first one, the budget was between 130 and $178 million, which is a lot of missing accountable money there. $48 million is missing. The box office was $529 million. So it's trending in the wrong direction, but it's still making a Boatload of money. It sounds like a comedy that scene you described. Is it a comedy? I don't know movies

It is not a comedy, but it is him running on a dock It's Jason Statham running on a dock and each of the steps behind him exploding because the shark is getting close because the shark is getting closer. That's funny, that's funny. But not as funny as him like surfing on a wave right in front of the giant breaching shark's mouth. I don't, have you guys ever, this was something I stopped on the other day again, it's a famous shark photographer who films,

I think the title has Flying Shark in it, but Great White's Breaching. Have you guys ever seen a Great White's Breach completely from the water? Not slightly to get us a seal, but completely from the water where you see its tail come out. I saw one of those in slow motion the other day on this documentary night just that i understand why it is that we're terrified of these animals but i think i have it right when i say that the midnight swim was not something that people feared before the movie jaws made them fear and i don't think there were summer blockbusters before that movie either it qualifies as a horror right

you guys you guys wouldn't think of it as a horror necessarily, but it's a horror movie, correct? Yeah, absolutely. It's the greatest horror movie of all time, is it not? If you classify it as a horror, does it not then have to be the greatest horror movie of all time? If that's the class that you're putting it in. Oh no, there's the Exorcist. I mean, you got that Silence of the Lambs is...

I would call it a horror, but it's necessarily a thriller, but yeah, it's in that pantheon. Does Silence of the Lambs classify as a horror movie? Like obviously Cannibalism, you would think that serial killing would, but I don't know if it, I don't even know how you classify horror movies if Jaws classifies as a horror. On Rotten Tomatoes, Silence of the Lambs is number six

on the list of best horror movies of all time. Number one, Jaws. So Jaws, and that is what, in terms of money or rating? Rating. I think it's rating and money because it's interesting because number two here is Let the Right One In, which is at 98%. Jaws is at 97%. I can try to figure out where this all comes from, but I guess they just recently went through and went between rating and also how much money it made. But I will tell you, Dan, the Jaws ride at Universal, which is like, you know, was rinky dink

and did not look like any sort of real sharks, scared me so much as a child that I would not go in the ocean for, I think, three years. This list factors in the tomato meter, Jeremy just scrolled away from what I'm saying, and the listener, the audience driven. So it's like they're combining the two with this rating. That's my bad, I scrolled away.

I know, but Billy just laughing off, Mike, not helpful, just laughing at your pain, and just in general just laughing at you as things go wrong for you. It was there for like two minutes, I'm like, you won't move it, and then as soon as I started talking. Yeah, that's on me, man.

Steven Spielberg was in his 20s when he made that movie, and it was filled with an enormous number of overruns because no one had actually considered how hard it would be to do all that stuff on the water. Kinda because he's 20, I mean, what does he know? How much it's gonna cost to make a movie, you know what I mean? Like, ah, how much things, ah, $40,000.

And like, okay, you got yourself, and he's like, whoa, this is like $8 billion. I really underestimated that. That would stink. If you were in your 20s, you're Steven Spielberg, you can't get the jaws, the 1975 jaws mouth to work right because you don't have the CGI that you need, so you're trying to do it all with some sort of thing

made of ceramic that you're trying to pull up with ropes out of the water. While doing that, you know, when was this, like 1970, whatever, Jaws was like, 1975. Well, it's 50 years. You think at some point they're like, man, this is really hard, like, and someone had a conversation like, how much do you think an actual shark is gonna cost?

And let's just kind of record the shark doing these things I don't believe that that's how they don't think anyone at any point said maybe let's just use a shark for some of these shots I have way too much information on all of this stuff No I don't believe they said let's use a great white for any of these shots and also the I think the person who wrote and acted in the film got all of $13,000, got a total of $13,000 for everything that he did for the movie.

Now, Greg, surely you've seen Jaws as somebody who doesn't watch very many movies. I saw Jaws in the theater when it came out. I was in my very early 20s at the time. I have since seen it on TV. I love the movie. I never considered it a horror movie So out of curiosity I googled was Jaws a horror movie and for what it's worth AI says

Yes, Jaws is widely considered a horror movie despite also being classified as a thriller and an adventure film I want to find out how it is that people broadly define horror because I tend to think of supernatural as opposed to natural types of death, right? I tend to think of the supernatural being involved with the horror genre, but I don't think I necessarily have this right if Silence of the Lambs classifies as a horror when I would think of that as a thriller but it's probably not a thriller, right? It's probably closer to horror. Put it on the poll at LeBataard Show, Juju. Silence of the Lambs, closer to thriller or horror?

I would call it a psychological horror movie, considering Hannibal Lecter was, I guess, a therapist. I think of a horror movie as Halloween, Freddy Krueger, that kind of film. Well, that's death and not supernatural. So you're talking about psychological thriller? Is that a genre? Does that count as a genre? The definition for horror film is a film genre

that seeks to elicit physical or psychological fear in its viewers. So horror films often explore dark subject matter, may deal with transgressive topics or themes, broad elements of the genre include monsters, apocalyptic events, and or religious or folk beliefs. Exorcist is the one that I think of when I think of supernatural,

but the second best shark movie is? Deep Lucy! Casino. Is that? think of supernatural, but the second best shark movie is? Deep Blue Sea. Is that? Casino. Is that? Is, is, it's just, is it Deep Blue Sea or Deep Blue? Is that the one that? No, it's Deep Blue Sea.

Deep Blue is a chess computer. So Deep Blue Sea is which one? Because I told you that I let out a horror movie scream in my living room at a movie I thought was called Deep Blue and I have spoiler alert here even though it's not a spoiler alert Wednesday. I've told you this story before, it was a horror movie screen alone 4am sitting on my couch and I wouldn't have screamed louder if the great white shark had appeared from behind my couch to eat me at that moment moment, I was so surprised, 10 minutes in,

spoiler alert, Samuel Jackson getting eaten with a breaching shark that ate him. That's Deep Blue Sea? Yes sir, that is Deep Blue Sea. Samuel L. Jackson is in that movie. Yeah, Deep Blue is rated G. It has a picture of a penguin on the cover. Okay, two very different movies.

Samuel L. Jackson also sounds like Declaration of Independence. It does, yes. Yeah, absolutely. Good call, Billy. Billy, if you wanna just do this for the rest of the show, I think you have found a lane here.

It's just a cheap cheat code, right? If it's an Alexander's probably on there. Billy Hamilton. Jackson. Yes, yes, Billy Hamilton is good too. His friends called him Billy, he went by William though on the official signing. The signature was William Hamilton

But not these old Washington. What about Ron Washington Ronald Washington? Yes Thomas Jefferson I'm intentionally not playing the game right Richard Jefferson why? Richard Jefferson Washington. No, but yes you guys can do this with Richard Jefferson's good. Washington, I don't know. Yeah, no, but yes, you guys can do this with... The reason Alexander Madison was good is because the last name wouldn't be

on the Declaration of Independence, but the Madison felt like the right syllable count. Somehow Hank Blaylock feels like it counts. Yeah. I could see that. Hank? Hank Blaylock. Henry Blaylock? Henry Blaylock, for sure. There's no Hanks back then. Henry Blaylock IV?

His friends called him Hank though. Right. Thomas Hank. Forgot the S. Do you guys have? I remembered right at the last minute. It's Tom Hanks the actor. Thank you Billy. It wasn't annoying enough.

You had to go a little extra. Little extra. Chet Hanks doesn't sound like he's sound the Declaration of Independence. Chester Hanks. Closer. Oh, his name's Thomas Jeffrey Hanks, for sure signed. Yeah. Back to you.

You guys are doing Samuel L. Jackson only because of the L, right? It's not the Samuel or the Jackson. Samuel fits. Yeah. And Jackson fits. Steven Adams? Yeah, Steven Adams but not Steve. But you guys are now just doing presidential.

Steven A. Smith. You did it! You guys are, again, Alexander Madison works because it's the last name that- Stephen Morris. Stephen Morris?

Yeah, borderline. I feel like you need either more of a syllable count. You guys are cheating when you do just the president's names. Like when you do Washington and Jefferson, like- Yeah, that's the game. Like J.B. Bickerstaff doesn't sound like he signed the Declaration of Independence, but he has the initials at the beginning.

We have a president that was named Alexander, right? Jason Taylor. I feel like we need more syllables than that. Jason, there's not a, I don't know if. Herb Dean. There's no way, are we sure that there was a Jason in 1776? I don't think there was. That's a great point, I'm about to look up the origins of that name.

It's a biblical name. Jason is? Yes. Feels like a newer name. Nah, I can't see Jason in the Bible. Well, there it's settled. Jay? They're calling him Jay in Leviticus?

It was born in Greek mythology. No brain back then. Turns out. Did it take some time off at all or no? Like fashion's cyclical, maybe Jason was? Turns out. Did it take some time off at all or no? Like fashion cyclical, maybe Jason was popular then disappeared and then came back. Jack. You're telling me the Greek gods,

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