The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: The Tuck Rule

Episode Date: September 24, 2024

Ron Magill is here to chat with Dan, Stu, Greg, and the Shipping Container about his experience at Greg's birthday, how to react to a black bear vs. a brown bear, the four-horned sheep, and seals. Then, do you ever fade yourself when betting the NFL? Plus, it's revenge week in the NFL, another mind-blowing Jayden Daniels stat, and the Bears offensive line's impact on Caleb Williams. Also, the crew reacts to the news of Brett Favre's early onset Parkinson's diagnosis. And finally, Greg and Stugotz argue against Eli Manning being a Hall of Famer, and Billy tells us the story of someone walking in on him pooping. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Jersey City, New Jersey, please drink responsibly. This is the Don Leventor Show with the Stugarts Podcast. We are fortunate on Tuesdays to have two of the most popular figures in the history of this show. One of them is enraged right now and remains enraged because of what we've done to him today involving his fantasy team, the Lobos. He has now remembered that the fifth player that he had produce a bunch of points for him this weekend

was Jamar Chase. He was very happy and he is in general made happy by his team, but not happy by the way we talk about his team. So I will try to make Greg Cody someone who is a bit soothed by allowing him to talk about his podcast the greg cody show featuring greg cody you can get new episodes every week with

i think it was that uh... it's really cody the new podcast it itself with uh... can you please stop shaking the microphone when we get i wanted to make it closer to my mouth now you could have done that though before the senate started to quit interrupting my uh... the plug of my podcast new uh... it's a very uh... to make it closer to my mouth. Yeah, you could have done that though before the session started. Shake it out. Yeah, quit interrupting the plug of my podcast. It's a very personal podcast.

It's a very personal podcast to me because it concerns my birthday party. And some of you in the room here are a part of that. And I heard my wife speak about me in a way that was very emotional and she doesn't often speak emotionally Particularly in front of a hundred people but but she did this time you're gonna that's like a running joke or what are you doing? I don't know you've been running Okay, I'm done talking about the podcast mm-hmm and your birthday I Wanted you to promote the podcast the Greg Cody. Yeah, and then you were going like this Yeah, we can hear all of it. We heard no no, I'm done. No, that's fine Ron McGill Very ignorant what just happened to me is beyond it. Yeah, it was terrible

Under the guise of trying to be funny. It was like ridiculous. Hmm Ron McGill joins us now one of the most popular guests in the history of this show. Your wife, when you speak of her, you speak of her with great admiration and she's not quite as emotional as you are. So I was surprised to hear her speak in a way that made her emotional because she doesn't do a lot of that. Yeah, what makes you think I'm emotional? What are you getting at? Wickerhead?

Dan, if I recall, if I recall, Dan, I believe you actually got a little emotional when you were speaking up there. I was quite moved by that. Dan? No. Dan, yes. You know, I should have taped him, because Dan got emotional as he was speaking up there. Yeah, luckily for Ron and everyone else, they can hear that emotion out of Levitard by listening to my latest podcast episode, which I'm very proud of. My producers stitched all that together beautifully. It's like a tapestry of my life. You rolled on all the speeches celebrating you?

Not all of them. And play them on the podcast. Just the good ones. I am so proud of you. That's really a service to the audience that couldn't make the boat. Thank you. Thank you.

It's easy content. Thank you. The best part that you don't see in the podcast is my dad almost tripping on the cord after his speech and almost ruining the party by falling. Hey, Gary the Bag. There he is. There's the bag. The only time you can hear him is on my podcast run We had to cut that in half by 1450 Gary the bag a little long-winded

1430 1430 1450 that's I thought can we check in here Ron? You've told us for years now that the way to deal with a bear that might be charging is to make yourself big and shout some version of, hey bear, Adam. I want to play this video for you because some people here are saying that when it's a brown bear, you lay down. When it's a black bear, you fight back. Let's see this video with Ron where a bunch of people are saying, if it's brown, lay down and this bear is just coming up and they seem totally relaxed.

The bear doesn't want any part of them uh... but is the behavior of human beings around bears different but depending on what color they are uh... yes brown bears different in the black bear by the way that's not a brown bear that's a i believe that the black bear this just in a brown color phase uh... well that's confusing how do you you know? I mean, come on.

You know by the shape of the bear. Brown bears are considerably bigger. That's the classic grizzly bear. They have a large hump on their back. Their hair tends to be much thicker and more grizzled hair, thereby the name grizzly bear. But the bottom line is I speak generally in Florida because you're not gonna have brown bears in Florida.

Only in Florida, we have black bears. So when you see a black bear, yes, you make yourself look as large as possible You put your hands up in the air you scream never turn your back and run More often than not that bear is gonna run away Like I said, it's happened to me several times in my lifetime coming across bears here in Florida I never even really had to raise my hand the bear just saw me and ran away I don't know if I'm that frightening or not, but that was the bottom line. Now with a grizzly bear, a large bear, this bear might come and attack you. And the bottom line is this, if you get attacked, if you get attacked, do not fight back a grizzly bear. Get in the fetal position,

cover the back of your neck with your hands, try to cover those vital areas. You know, I know it's easier said than done, but don't fight back. Try to play dead. And hopefully that bear will think it's succeeded in eliminating whatever, but don't fight back. Try to play dead, and hopefully that bear will think it succeeded in eliminating whatever threat it saw and leave you alone. But that's the difference in black bears and brown bears. But that whole thing of it's brown, lay down. Well, you know what?

There are a lot of black bears that are brown that are not black. So I wouldn't lay down. What about trying to poke the bear in the eye? Mm-hmm. Like Roddy Piper. Take that with your knife under the giraffe. Hold on a second, Ron.

You don't poke the bear, Chris. Ron, for 20 years you've been coming on the show saying if you see a bear stand up, make yourself as big as possible and say, hey bear, and now 20 years later we're finding out that's only applicable if you live in Florida. For anyone that's been listening nationally, I mean, I don't want to be morbid here. You may be responsible for multiple bear deaths. Oh wow. I don't understand what Ron's doing. No, that's been listening nationally, I mean, I don't want to be morbid here. You may be responsible for multiple bear deaths. Oh, wow. I don't understand what Ron's doing.

No, that's not true. Where the black bear is a brown bear. You may be. No way to know. They're in a brown phase, Dan. Listen to what I'm saying, guys. You have blood on your hands. Okay?

What I'm saying is that once the attack is on, you play dead. But whenever you see any bear, put your hands up big. Okay? In Florida. Hands up big, start backing back slowly, but make yourself known. If the bear charges and attacks you and it's a brown bear, lay down and play dead. If it's a black bear, fight the hell back.

Well, how do you know if it's like a black bear, a brown bear with wet hair, there's black bear with highlights, like how do we know what kind of bear it is? A black bear in a brown face? Running at you full speed when it's in a lake or whatever that was. Story keeps changing. And you're like trying to look at it like, how do we know what kind of bear it is? Is this very confusing? A black bear in a brown face? The thing's running at you full speed when it's in a lake or whatever that was. Story keeps changing. And you're like trying to look at it like, oh, what is the, how porous is that hair?

So how do I know? Right. Generally speaking, a brown bear is going to be considerably larger. Yeah, what if it's an old black bear with gray hair and you think it's a polar bear? Great question, Craig. Thank you. I mean, you know, if it's an old bear, it used to be a brown bear, now it's gray. So it's white. It's a gray bear. You know, what do you do if it's a gray bear?

There's actually white bears there, you know, ghost bears. What about an albino black bear? What do we do there? Fight back. This is very DT-boggy. I feel like I need a little car. Look at the difference, guys. guys there look at the difference this I'm supposed to look at its paw print look at the large massive size the grizzled hair you got the bigger larger ears and a black bear and those little grizzled ears on a grizzly bear you know listen guys once you're in that situation you

know you're on your own okay i don't know i don't know animal expert finally you give it up for sure in that situation is that a period of time is just you're on your own and if it's a black bear in a brown face it doesn't matter how big a bear it is just figured out you're on your own finally the animal expert puts down his sword and tells us there is no actual solution. Is that just in Florida or every state? Figure it out.

Figure it out on your own. In Florida, it's always going to be a black bear no matter what color that is. What if it's a gerber? What if it's a vicar? Actually, listen guys, on the East Coast, on the entire East Coast, it's basically going to be a black bear. Okay? Brown bears and grizzly bears occur in the west western part of the country dance and put down your sword what if I brought a sword to the bear fight would I be able to survive I'm gonna move on now to other video we've spent enough time here wasting Ron McGill's time yeah we're gonna piss off both of them today

let's show you a sheep here with some deformities it's got four horns I've not as a formity it's an actual breed it's the four-horn sheep okay it looks like something from the bowels of hell I did I granted it is it and this this is a spectacular example of a four-horn sheep they're usually not that spectacular the horns are not that large but it is a certain breed of sheep the four-horn sheep that is a not terribly uncommon but this guy here is a spectacular version of sheep, the four horned sheep, that is not terribly uncommon. But this guy here is a spectacular version of it. That thing looks like, what's the name of that Disney character that, what's her name?

Satan. So this animal's name is the four horned sheep? Yeah, it's a four horned sheep, it's a breed. That's a little on the nose, no? What? What? It's just got four horns so it's called the four horned sheep is that is that rocking a medallion did I see that no can we throw it it's got swag that the sheep has okay you know I'm not saying that people are stupid crap on the animal to make it more iconic in

whatever way they're trying to symbolize it, but the bottom line is the horns are natural in that breed of sheep as well as the long coat. When you're putting medallions and other things on top of it, that's all human stupidity. Enhance. Tell me how uncommon this is or isn't. We've got a seal. Is this seal attacking a human being? I'm pretty sure this sheep is wearing a satanic medallion. That's what I was saying.

Enhance. It seems like a bell is what it's wearing. Enhance. A bell of some sort. Thank you, Dan. Enhance. Let's go again, as I was mentioning, to this seal on the beach that is attacking a human being.

Usually when this happens, you're telling us it's a mother protecting children. It could be that, or it could be, you know, listen, it could be just a seal getting a reaction from somebody too. You know, that doesn't even look like a major adult seal, but all I can tell you is that, yeah, that animal does not want that person on the beach, and is trying to protect its little beach territory there.

Let that seal try that on me. I'd do way better than that person did. Everybody likes their place in the sand on the beach. It's stumbling. And that was that seal's place on the beach. And it was basically telling that person goodbye. Just wants to give them a kiss from a race, that's all. Hey seal.

Oh my God. Once the person was far enough away. It stopped No, no, it was a seal joke from Jeremy because he can't help himself with the terrible jokes He just wanted to make a song about the singer's seal and one of his songs Let's play a for Ron this raccoon in a garbage can and a man using a hockey stick trying to i guess rescue the raccoon how dangerous a situation is this ron should you just leave the raccoon alone well i would give it

i would i would give it access to try to get out of the garbage can but yeah in that case there i wouldn't put out the stick to help it out because if it was uh... really like you it would run up the stick and come get you. What I would do is I would open the can and tip the can over so it runs away. But having you connected to the stick, which gives that raccoon quick access, you know, listen, let's be serious here, guys. Why is this guy doing this?

Why is he videotaping this if he really wants to help the raccoon? He's videotaping it for social media for clicks, okay? That's what these people are doing. The social media makes people just flat out stupid. Ron, you take pictures of everything. Very contestant. Don't you have a contract in Canon or something? Yeah, that's a great point, Chris.

You ever seen me taking a video of myself doing something stupid? I took pictures of animals. Didn't you always get killed in Africa by a wallaby or something attacking you because you were trampling it home in the middle of the night. Trampling the tent. Geez Louise. Yeah I heard about that. Hey Ron, I have a two-part question about the same animal. Number one, is the running of the bulls in Pamplona, Spain the dumbest thing on earth? Number two, a herd of bulls escaped a rodeo at a mall in Massachusetts

So forget the bear for a minute if I'm suddenly in the unexpected proximity of a bull What should I do get behind whatever large object you can make sure that object is between you and the bull whether it be a tree A car or whatever Get behind it. You're never going to outrun the bull so get find some firm heavy Powerful, you know object that you can get behind like a tree An automobile something like that. Okay, and if you're the commissioner of animals the global commissioner of animals, which you should be Do you abolish the running of the bulls in Pamplona? Absolutely abolish it Absolutely, and that just because listen people stupid people get hurt doing it

But the bulls can get hurt doing that too is they run on those cobblestone roads and stuff. They slip they hurt themselves They pull muscles It's just this is just insane stupid entertainment at the expense of the bulls What if the bull was brown and you're living in the state of Florida? Good question Ron. Thank you for being on with us I appreciate it, sir. Thank you, sir. Good talking to you again this week Yeah, okay. Thank you. Yeah, I don't blame appreciate it sir. Thank you sir, good talking to you again this week. Yeah, okay, thank you. I'll be right back. I don't blame you, I don't blame you at all, Ron.

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Stugats came in today and he was swaggering and he was breathing, hot breath in my face because I said yesterday that that Bills bet, Bills minus five and a half seemed like a special Chris Cody and Stugatz bet. I can spot when I look at the schedule what it is that Stugatz and Chris Codyats bet. I can spot when I look at the schedule what it is that Stugats and Chris Cody would bet. They bet the Bills and they won big, betting the Bills.

But underdogs that are plus five and a half are 14 and two this year against the spread. What happened to Jacksonville last night has not happened very much this season to anybody. And I'm guessing you are 2 and 14 in games like that because you love to bet the big favorites so much. One and 0 in my last one. I mean how about that? Anyone plus five and a half or more is 14 and 2 against the spread and it's all a bunch

of games like Denver this week where you're like how is Denver only a six point dog against Tampa and then they go out and the game's never even close. I took the bait on that one. I remember Denver this week where you're like, how is Denver only a six-point dog against Tampa and then they go out and the game's never even close. I took the bait on that one. I have to admit. Uh Dan, you know what? When you bet favorites, listen, it might

be the easy thing to do. You know what I I can't stand about people who take the underdogs. They think they're smarter than everyone else. Uh you know something that me and Chris don't know. Jacksonville is desperate. They're owing to they need to win. I wasn't brave enough to believe. You had the Jags. No, I did not. I told you. The reason I asked yesterday, the reason I asked you the question is because I'm like, nobody's actually brave enough to bet the Jags in that situation, at least in part

because you fear that the Bills can do that at any point to anyone. It's one of the rare teams in the league. It's it's what Kansas City has been honestly the last couple of years that they're not anymore Kansas City doesn't tend to cover its point spreads and has smaller point spreads than it's had in a long time because their offense isn't what Buffalo's is. It's just a weird thing for me when I bet I like to bet the favorite and hope that they beat a team. I'm rooting for someone to beat someone by like 17 points

as opposed to taking the underdog. And it's okay if they lose, just don't lose by, you know, the amount of points I bet you on. I don't like underdogs. Underdogs scare me. Underdogs are for smart people. All this stuff evens out. So when I hear that stat,

that makes me wanna crush these favorites even more, Dan, because they do. Yes, yep. We are due. You're right. Do you guys ever bet anything? I want to ask you guys this question, because I do this all the time uncomfortably. I bet teams in football sometimes, because I am certain they will not cover.

And I just feel like I know so little about what I'm doing that the Broncos, of course, will go to Tampa Bay and win like that because of course. You're fading yourself? Yes. It's odd. I'm fading what I think is going to happen. What would logically happen?

Yes, I'm saying, and I'm scared when I do it, but I do it all the time. That Denver bet is something, that Carolina bet is something I will make a lot. Even though I'm saying there's no way Carolina actually beats beats the raiders right then i'll bet carolina on the money that it was a brutal week uh... i happen to have denver with the points but those in section i went six and ten against the spread couch it's it's been a bloodbath season for me i don't know whether for everybody but

there's so many on for some upsets are foreseeable there's been to me so many unforeseeable, unpredictable upsets that it's been crazy. You mentioned Carolina, the NFL is so great. You have the ultimate revenge game coming up this weekend. Andy Dalton, the red rifle, taking on the Cincinnati Bengals.

He could end their season. I mean, that is awesome. Must win for the Bengals. Yeah, it has to be at this point, Nathaniel Hackett as well another revenge game I can forget how they oddly caped up for Nathaniel Hackett last season So this is this is how I'm gonna know if the Jets this year are for real because this is a game after an impressive Victory the Jets would normally lose but Denver is stro strolling in. It's a revenge game, as Mike pointed out. The Jets need to win this game by 21 points. I don't care what Bo Nicks did

against Tampa. I don't care how that team looked last week. The Jets, if you want to prove it to me that you're for real this year, you beat Denver at home and you beat him by 21 points. I will not accept a three-point victory. This might be just the revenge week in the NFL because Monday night football Put the kids to bed. Oh, yeah Titans Dolphins rematch from last year's Monday night These are crappy revenge games you guys are giving me like the crap on all versus the Bengals dolphins

They stink all They have a doubleheader though they have the the Lions and Seahawks on the other end of the card. Man, so many great games across this fair nation. Seems like a hot ticket to get. Hmm, is it a fair nation? Where do we go to if we want to get a hot ticket? Well, it is a good question. We go to the Game Time app.

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Last night, it was Jaden Daniels time, and it did feel like an arrival. Jeremy, give a stat that is going to blow the nipples off the audience. According to CBS Sports, Jaden Daniels now has two career NFL games where his team scored on every drive, excluding kneel downs in three career starts. Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, and Patrick Mahomes

combined to do that twice in their entire careers. It's an underdog at Arizona next week. That's insane! Yeah, Jaden Daniels, again, averaged a first down per play in college. I don't know what you think he is, but Diana Rossini just told you, and this would have been good information to have

before now when we can all see it, that several head coaches told her that they thought that Jaden Daniels was better than Caleb Williams. Several head coaches who didn't have a high draft pick. If you're a Bears fan today, you have to be upset because it appears that Daniels is better than Caleb Williams and Justin Fields is three and O in Pittsburgh. Even with the stat Jeremy gave, there's nothing appears that Daniels is better than Caleb Williams and Justin Fields

is 3-0 in Pittsburgh. Even with the stat Jeremy gave, there's nothing Jaden Daniels has done that's more impressive than his ability to not get injured. Right. Thank you. Leads the league. I'm telling you, the Caleb Williams front, this appears to be the worst offensive line behind a number one overall draft pick since the Houston Texans and David Carr. This is a really, really bad offensive line.

You guys all fell in love with Heinecke, at least in part because those Washington skill guys are good, those are exceptional skill guys. But we talk too infrequently in general about offensive lines that are giantly important. Like, I don't know why we're talking. We know nothing about them. Well, but we spend so much time talking about football

And so little time talking about the people who protect the quarterbacks Caleb Williams will have no success if he does not have Protection hard stop like you but that it's not a thing That's possible to do in that league if your offensive line is bad Because you saw you all saw what happened to Patrick Mahomes in a Super Bowl when his offensive line was bad. The Super Bowl that he lost to Tampa when his offensive line was bad. It was also Tom Brady. Okay but he lost 31 to 9 or whatever it was and you saw him running for his life the entire game. We don't talk about it enough. They call the speed option play from the goal line that is a running play. There's a run block. Your offensive linemen go forward. It looked like a bomb went off.

They all got knocked back into Caleb Williams. It was as like just total wreckage and carnage along that offensive line. It's impossible to make a true eval on Caleb Williams. Every time I look up to one of the TVs his game is on, he's running for his life. It's a new day. How can you make the most of it with your membership rewards points? Every time I look up to one of the TVs his game is on, he's running for his life. Earn them on your adventure and use them how you want, when you want. That's the powerful backing of American Express. Learn more at mx.ca slash ymx. Terms apply.

Don LeBretard. You don't remember the idea for Home Run Call? I was probably like, that kind of thing. Something? Okay, no. The Home Run Call was that kind of swing, that kind of thing. Stugats. Oh. That's a good call.

Thank you. And plus, it doesn't matter who's hitting it, like you're not tailing it to a particular name. You know, all that jazz, you know, you don't gotta do that, you just do a generic call. That kind of swing, that kind of thing. This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats. A couple of other quarterback things Stugats to get to. There is now breaking news as we talk

about this that Brett Favre, whose retirement has been a real disaster that has tarnished, a real disaster that has tarnished, you know, the legacy that he had in football, all of us remembering the idea that he would be able to be great on one of these Monday night football games immediately after his father died and having hero worship throughout his career, we learned after his career that he was, because of the way that he played

and because of how violent the game was, he was using a lot of pain medication and that he was addicted to painkillers. And now he's gone in front of Congress and he has said that while trying to find remedies for what is happening inside his head with concussions, he has been diagnosed with Parkinson's. And so just a heartbreaking story

because that is a physical prison that would be hard for anybody walking the planet, but must be especially hard for anyone who has walked the planet as one of the great success stories in a physical body, where you are the embodiment of toughness, of youth. I remember at the end of his career when he's taking the Vikings to the playoffs, the hits that he was taking as an old man saying,

that is all terribly unhealthy for him trying to play on that ankle. And then we learned later on that he just had a real pill problem that anyone could understand if you need to try and get away from the pain in your life every morning when you wake up and every night when you go to sleep. It's such a sad story.

I do wonder if NFL fans know and care about the length these guys go to to get back on the field every single Sunday. Because I feel like most fans, and I'm guilty of it as well, we don't care what happens Sunday after the game until the next Sunday when they play again. The stuff that Jason Taylor has told us about that he had to go through just to get his body right so we could play football again on Sunday, I remember you and I kind of wincing because it seems unhealthy, it seems crazy, it seems ridiculous, and I'm not certain fans realize it or if they care

and I'm not certain I blame them if they don't care. Yeah I mean Brett Favre's done a lot wrong in his career and after it but I really feel for him. My dad had Parkinson's very late in his life and it's a terrible thing and and Favre is actually a little on the young side. Most people don't get Parkinson's until they're 60 or older so I really feel for him and and it's a terrible thing. Brett Favre at the end of his career when he was playing in his late 30s looked physically like he

had been ravaged his youth had been ravaged by what we assumed was hard living and football and so I don't know Mike when he's testifying in front of Congress I'm not sure if it's responsible to assign early-onset Parkinson's in your what is Is he early 50s? 54, yeah. Are we allowed to make links between this and football because of the testimony that he's making before Congress about trying to avoid concussions?

I'd say the vast majority of people are assuming that there's a link between the two. He is speaking because of the misuse of taxpayer funds where he's alleged to have defrauded the poorest of the poor in his state. This is the first I'm hearing about a concussion drug being tied into that, but yeah, just a hell of a setting to reveal that it as truly sad news. And I imagine

some people who are cynical who have seen Brett Favre's Sue Shannon Sharp and Sue Pat McAfee, I will assume that the cynical will then jump to certain conclusions about is he trying to get some public goodwill but this is easily enough verifiable and I would not wish Parkinson's specifically on anyone of any age. Correct. I mean, who cares? Like if it's a play on my simp, but that he has it. This is an awful thing that is happening to him. Another

thing less serious than that as it relates to thing less serious than that as it relates to quarterbacks and Stugatz was mentioning that the expectations are such in New York that he needs his jets to win by three touchdowns to prove that Aaron Rodgers is who he wants him to be as quarterback. Who the Jets are, I want them to prove to me that they're a good team. I said I would not accept a three-point win, I was lying, I would accept a three point. Yeah, I just wanted to clarify that. You wanted to run that back?

I'd be perfectly fine with a three point win. But you're expecting them to win by 21, but if you're a great quarterback in New York, we will over inflate your value, and Greg Cody has some issues with Eli Manning being considered for the Hall of Fame as the best playoff quarterback as a wild card we've ever seen.

Twice, did he make it twice on the road? Not all the games were on the road with the New York Giants in the playoffs, were they? Not all in both title runs, were they? I think maybe there was one home game, but most of them were road games. He it to the playoffs twice he won the super bowl twice so is the line and all of them are still gots

he is a hall of famer is that a first ballot hall of famer but if it's but he's being that like one uh... there's sixteen first time nominees for the hall of fame and his name jumps out largely because the betting odds are one to five that he's gonna get it that's 83% likelihood on the first ballot I agree with you I think he's a a likely future Hall of Famer but first ballot is ridiculous okay all right let's do the pro for the pros first he's got the right position for the Hall of Fame he's got the the legacy badge with two Super Bowl win right name and he's got

the right surname but there's another side that makes you think well really was he that good his career record is exactly 500 117 and 117 never led the NFL and TD passes led the NFL in interceptions three times. 84.1 passer rating does not rank in the top 60 all the time. That's like J. Fiedler, isn't it? 84.1 passer rating. It's pretty average. 7.0 yards per attempt does not rank in the top 100, okay? And I don't want to be the guy to say apart from the two Super Bowls because that is part of his legacy and it's the top headline. Against Brady.

Yeah, but you look at the overall and you don't see a quarterback that screams Hall of Fame to me. I don't know what you guys are doing where you say Hall of Famer for sure, first ballot ridiculous. Yes, there's a difference. There's a big difference. You don't know the difference. Right, you don't know the difference. Come on. I don't know what you're doing. First ballot is special, man.

Special, Dan, yeah. This is what I don't understand about what you're doing. If you're allowing anyone into the Hall of Fame, then them being a first ballot Hall of Famer can't be ridiculous if you think they're worthy of the Hall of Fame. I disagree. You're just doing a thing.

Only the best of the best are of the Hall of Fame. I disagree. You're just doing a thing. Only the best of the best are first ballot Hall of Famers. I'm not certain Eli Manning is the best of the best of anything. If you're worthy of being in the Hall of Fame, it cannot be said that it is ridiculous for you to be a first ballot Hall of Famer. You can say they shouldn't be a first ballot Hall of Famer.

You can't say it's ridiculous to consider them a first ballot Hall of Famer. He said it. He made the playoff six times outside of the two Super Bowl runs he's 0-4. You should say then he's not a Hall of Famer. No. You should say he's not a Hall of Famer then you can say it's ridiculous to consider him a Hall of Famer but if you're willing to let him in the door it's not a big leap to first ballot. Okay he might not be a Hall of Famer if it were up to me but I'm predicting that he will be a Hall of Famer because I know how the Hall of Fame works okay they he's a manning they put yeah he's a man he's getting in first ballot yeah he probably served

but my argument is not that he should be in the Hall of Fame someday it's that he should be a first ballot guy that should be reserved for the Tom Brady's the Peyton Mannings and and guys like that that's why my dad kept Craig Begio out of the Hall of Fame by one vote because he was a second year guy, not a first ballot. I love that you put Peyton there, the guy who couldn't beat Brady. He's a first ballot Hall of Famer. Absolutely. No he is. I mean look at their career numbers. You're saying publicly Eli Manning is not a hall of famer not or anything door he is saying that if he has a hall of a murray you're saying he will get

into the hall of fame but according to you he's not a hall of fame i am not a pro football hall of fame voter if i were i would not vote for him to be in on the first ballot on the first ballot but you would like to hear from my heart might later on i might not so annoying just make a statement He's not a first-ballot Hall of Famer. That's what he's saying. Why is that difficult for you to believe some guys are some guys aren't I mean, what do you want from the guy? I would guess that most quarterbacks who have won two or more Super Bowls probably have gotten in on the first ballot I would think I'm not saying they're deserving Ben Roethlisberger is not in yet, right? He's not in he's not a first

Guy I don't think all right. Let me explain this to you know the layman He would be a first ballot guy Look who's playing the game, huh? Let me let me simplify this for one out there who doesn't seem to understand Okay, you have friends. You have a friend group, correct? Like you have friends, yes, we agree, you have friends, everybody has friends, a number of friends. And then you have a best friend, right? Some people are worthy of being your friend, but they're not your best friend. Now, your best friend is still your friend, but it's a better friend than a regular friend. Great analogy. So like a best friend, you can't say, you know, is not a friend, they're still a friend.

They're just not the best friend. And the best friend is reserved for the best of the best. Just like first ballot is reserved for the best of the best. Billy, you have not been the same since you were going to the bathroom pooping and you didn't lock the door and somebody walked in. That's not, okay, first of all, HIPAA.

What? Second of all, second of all, second of all, I did lock the door and the door did not lock properly and that is something here that if, I'm gonna be honest, I've weighed my options and haven't decided yet, but this may be a legal situation that I take up with the building here because I went upstairs and I went to the bathroom

and I pushed lock on the door and there I am Doing my business and then all of a sudden that sorry which one 10-4 Yeah, oh all of a sudden the door opens this this one used to be a I think there used to be a picture of Mike's face On this door. That's my complain about yeah, wait, so I went I love this paint the picture. Let me close my trying What do you trying to paint? What do you say? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no no I want to get to the sound I painted that toilet my friend I I Want to get to the sound all of us would make if somebody were walking in While we weren't expecting okay, because this is it here this is a very being used very vulnerable thing You guys are saying words because I wouldn't get to words.

I didn't get to words. I was just sitting there all of a sudden, the door opens like a, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup I locked this door. He's unsure whenever I press that one. I'm like, how is this strong enough? I went through the motions and I locked it. And then all of a sudden the door opens like, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. And then, you know what happened? It's kind of like, I don't know if you guys have caught onto this, when you walk by someone,

and you quickly just like, hey, how's it going? And then just repeat the exact same thing. Hey, how's it going? Whatever. Like, whatever you say, someone will probably repeat the same thing back to you when you greet them, right? So like, I just go, ah, ah, ah, and the person that opened the door is like, ah, ah, ah. And then they close the door and? So like I just go, uh, uh, uh, and the person

that opened the door is like, uh, uh, uh, and then they close the door and I was like, all right, we gotta get outta here, like we're finishing this as quickly as possible and going. It's very vulnerable, we can all agree. Yeah, because like, what if I make eye contact with that person when I'm on the toilet? They steal my soul, like what happens?

What if they make eye contact with your dick? Your relationship will not be the same with that person ever again. Well, especially if I know the person, that'd be even weirder. I'd be like, bup, bup, bup, bup, bup, bup. Even worse. Even worse. You sound a bit like Dizzy Gillespie. You're playing some music in the bathroom as somebody walks in. I know who that is, but for those that don't.

I was shooting a horn that day, I'll tell you what, buddy. It sounds like... Yeah, I got it already, okay? You guys, can you elevate it just a little bit? Yeah, I got it. Mike's like, they see your penis. You brought it up. Everyone's trying to look at it. Who said penis?

Everyone's trying to, I said dick. Everyone's trying to look at it. No, but you're going number two and you got your penis talked, don't you? It's very vulnerable. Please just leave for a while. Can you just leave for a while? Can you just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just,

please. One and two at the same time. Thank you. Minor penalty, two minutes for ruining comedy. Tuck rule. Yeah, tuck rule. Tuck rule. Tuck rule.

I know. He got there. He got there as I kicked him out. He finally gets there with the tuck rule. That must've been really awkward for you and Skip. It's really, I do believe this is inappropriate for you to be. I'm not doing that.

No, no, no, no, no. I can't get words out in that situation. I don't get coherent syllables out. But they got it. They got the message. They did the same thing back and then they left. Do you know how rare and vulnerable a situation has to be for you not to be able to get to spoken syllables

that are coherent because you are so eager to run someone out of a room and a door you thought was locked? Yeah. That's why you should never defecate in public. I can count on one hand the number of times in my life that I have sat at a toilet that was not in my own home. Let's do that. No, I can. Unless I have the most extreme dancing. Number five.

Number five. Number five. Well, it's a figure of speech I can count on one day. A Ramada Inn in Des Moines. Golden Oldies tryouts. A truck stop in Albany A Starbucks in Sacramento Going to Buffalo with Bernie Pommelie

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