The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: There, I Said It

Episode Date: November 27, 2023

Dolly Parton had a moment on Thanksgiving in Dallas, and Chris Cote said the thing you think he said. Then, Alex Smith is great on TV, the Shohei Ohtani sweepstakes are taking off, Adam Driver has a wild response to a fan, and something's gotta give. Plus, Stugotz doesn't want more Heat, and Mike Ryan has his hate for Deion Sanders rewarded by Colorado's record this season. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Don Lebertar Show with the Stugat's Podcast. Put it on the poll, please, Jujuat Levitard show, is anyone in America someone who has a higher curating than Dolly Parton? Because it is impossible these days to get maximum popularity, consensus, love, but at 77 years old, she stole Thanksgiving day by having the confidence to wear a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader outfit at an age I'm guessing when most 77 year old wouldn't have the confidence or the ability to pull that off. Not a lot of people 40 years and 50 years younger than her can pull that particular look off, but

she stole Thanksgiving where even Jerry Jones was saying on Thanksgiving Day, he gets carried away. He said that that victory on Thanksgiving Day felt as good to him as all of the superbolts because liar! Guessing he got into the Johnny Walker blue and it just felt emotional and good to beat up the rival Washington team. He's like, Jack D'Aurel.

And some people have complained about Jake Tapper coming on here and saying that Jalen Hertz is the best quarterback in the NFL. They've complained about me saying that Deck Prescott has been better this year, but he has been better this year. Statistically, it's not. It's also on one against jalen hurts exactly i mean jalen hurts was incredible yesterday i think the offense but he wasn't even the best quarterback on the field yesterday

i mean he was the winning quarterback on the field uh... okay but is that how we're gonna do it uh... i mean getting played well i'm not saying it's a bad pick it was a bad pick j It was a bad pick. Yeah Jalen Jalen hurts won the game. Jalen had a phone on his own in his own. Yeah, Josh Allen never won an overtime game despite them changing the rules for him Regardless, I began talking about Dallie Parton and the way that she's having a moment. If I may it's about It's been 50 years. It was great to see.

And even though Dallas and that organization had the opportunity to do something that everybody's been clamoring for since it goes viral every year, you gotta give Creed another shot at the halftime show for Thanksgiving. Wow. I'm issuing a challenge right now to Jerry Jones, please, dear God, run it back. But Dolly Parton was fine. And I sell a lot of merch. From that halftime performance,

people are going crazy for the Dolly stuff. If I may say, it was just a little, like I understand the age, but hanging on to the star of the entire time. It was just, what are you doing? I understand, but hanging on to the star of the entire time. If you watch, like I was watching, she was holding on to that star of the way

that I would hold on to the side of a boat if you were going in choppy waters a little bit. Terrible seeing the house if you were behind the stage the star just totally engulfed her. It's just why wasn't she on the star? Why are you she was just hanging around the star and that platform didn't look like there was a lot of space for her to move. It was very dangerous. Why put Dolly in that predicament? Did you see the predicament that ludicrous was in? Like, what do you mean? We're in the entertainment business.

Is younger though, I mean. It just felt a lot more dangerous with Dolly was doing than what ludicrous was doing. No, that can't be so. What you're saying, a 77 year old holding onto a star cannot be as dangerous as a rapper descending from the rooftop. That's not what you're saying is not in any way true with dolly all in minute i said it

you did say it that said it in my living room same thing everyone else said yeah i know what you meant yep and i meant it but you can't say there i said it on something that you have an actually no one knows yeah i agreed but you can't say there i said it when you have an actually said it say I do know what was that face Can we can we zoom in on Chris's face there I'm not a good winker That was hey, that was not a confident wink Winking is a tricky game. It is not a tricky. No, it is what's the trick?

It's a wink or blink I can't do like my right I can't wink my right eye without the left one also going down. That's a blink. I'm done with the left though. So you're a good blinker. Can I see? We should put it on the pole. Did you say it? Because I did. Well in regards to Dolly Parton, you didn't say it. You didn't say anything. You just said there I said it without having actually said it. Dan O'Neill. Dan O'Neill. Dan O'Neill.

So you didn't say it and then you blinked at me. You didn't wink at me because you're not coordinated enough to wink. You closed both eyes at the same time. And you saw all six of the quarterbacks on Tony's all squinting. Speaking of danger, predicament, someone writes in to God's, the thing I hate the most about Dan getting on his soapbox about the meat grinder and machine of the NFL is when he acts like the players are some kind of victim. Besides the fact that they are compensated handsomely for the risk they take for playing a violent game for a living. The players participate by choice. They're willing participants in the machine.

Not a single one of them are oblivious to the business or the dangers of the NFL. He's that guy. Drupes can't throw with his right arm. That's sad, man. You think he knew that? You think he knew that? Before he started playing? You think he knew that? You think he knew that? Before he started playing?

You think he knew that was one of the possibilities. I know we think they're not oblivious to the dangers of the game, but I think if you asked retired players what they thought they were going to feel when the game was over. Drew Breeze wouldn't have told you I don't think I'm going to be able to throw passes to my kids right handed anymore because I've had so many surgeries on my shoulder. But if you told Breeze when he was coming out of Purdue that he would play until he was 40

and throw that many passes, don't you think he would probably know? Like, hey, this is gonna hurt, right? I don't know, Stugots, whether they can factor in at 20, the pain they're feeling at 45. I think the answers to some of these questions are different, whether you're settling up to a player when he's 65 years old and already cannot do some of the things that Dolly Parton can do

because of what the game does to them. I do believe that we are more informed now than we've ever been about what the risks are, but I believe there are a whole lot of players limping around the world right now who played on turf a lot worse than the one that the New York Jets play on who didn't know what they were signing up for. The craziest part about him sharing that story was the arthritis is settled in from the injury that he had when he was playing for the San Diego Chargers. If you recall, he was a totally different quarterback before that injury. And he became for a brief moment in time before Brady took the record back because

they were playing paddy cake with it for a little bit. The most prolific passer, despite having an injury that right now causes him to throw lefty when he's having turkey bowl with his kids. You think Stugots that most quarterbacks throwing footballs right now think to themselves in my 40s, I will not be able to throw with my throwing arm. You think that's what they're doing? Well, I don't know if they're all thinking it. Everyone's body is different, but yeah, I think if they're thinking to themselves, hey,

Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, I'm going to play until I'm 40, 41, 42, 43. There's a possibility. My shoulders can feel really bad when it's all set and done. Of course, but quarterbacks are playing longer now. Dan, they're throwing the ball more than they used to. But only one has performed at a high level once they get to that tipping point age. It's Tom Brady. They all have a huge decline. We haven't seen it with their arroggers, though I could say that you can lump in and Achilles giving out. You can lump that into a body aging. It's just we got to a custom to seeing Brady and Breeze starting for their teams at unprecedented ages.

That we thought that this was the new NFL so far, the only person to be that age and perform at the high level was the greatest quarterback of all time in Tom Brady. Did Alex Smith win over a nation yesterday by completely taking down Tom Brady? He's great. Alex Smith is great at television. He is. He also, by the way, took down everyone else on set at the same time because it's a set

full of patriots and jets. And he's like, Tom Brady, I was going to say a good division. I didn't see what he said. Oh, it came out. And he said the, basically Tom Brady. I was going to say good division. I didn't see what he said. Oh, it came out and he said the, basically Tom Brady zip it up. The only reason that you're even good this long is because you were in the most uncompetitive division in the history of football.

Right. And he said they made these rules for you. Somehow the dolphins catch a stray there. The thing that Alex Smith was objecting to is Tom Brady saying the league is mediocre now when he's not that far removed from playing in the league the way that it looks exactly right now. So if it is mediocre now, it was also mediocre while Tom Brady was playing in it. But the thing that Tom Brady is giving voice to is the thing

that we're talking about with risk when he says it's not as great as it used to be because you can't hit the way that you used to be able to hit. He is doing the thing that a lot of players do and a lot of people in their living room do when they say, you've made it flag football. It is not flag football. I can see what I'm watching out there on Sundays and you can think to yourself on your couch in the safety of your living room that that is not that violent out there.

But what I am watching the pace and the speed with which people are running into each other, I have this thought all the times to God, guys. Like, the idea of running around with helmets and colliding into people in something that requires helmets, the matter doors, don't have helmets in both fighting. Like, the idea of launching yourself into somebody and having to wear protective head gear that you would wear when riding a motorcycle.

Right. But the game is safer, Dan, especially for that position, but it's safer because of Tom Brady. Those rules were made, so guys like Brady could play into their 40s, it would be super bowl. I'm not actually sure, though, how much safer it is even with the rules if I'm adding 50 pounds of weight to everybody and they're moving faster.

A lot faster. Go watch. I saw the systems on the television and the gym here the other day. The first Patriots Tom Brady Super Bowl against the Rams. The Rams were allegedly a very fast team. And I'm watching that and I'm like, no one on this field is fast. This does not look fast compared to what I'm watching today. There was 20 years ago and I'm watching an old game

and that's the greatest show on turf and I'm like, this doesn't look as fast as today's game. I refuse to believe that Isaac Bruce wasn't fast. I'm sorry. He wasn't the fastest player on that team. Tori Holt, Marshall Fault. Tori Holt, we're faster. How's that team on that team?

Oh my God. But it wasn't that fast is what I'm telling you. I'm watching it and the Steelers today are faster. 20 years ago. Rocky pads. I mean, Kurt Warner's got loose sleeves. How fast do you think Teddy bruski really was? You go ahead and tell me.

Not Fred Warner fast. I'll tell you that. No. I'll tell you that I'm telling you I you can't see it. It's not obviously discernible but the people that were playing 20 years ago it might as well have been the 1940s No matter where you are or how you're hydrating the season liquid IV is the hydration brand fueling your well-being and their Hydration multiplier can keep you going through the end of the year and beyond With three times the electrolective of leading sports drinks plus eight vitamins and nutrients for everyday wellness Lake what IV hydrates two times faster than water alone all in a single stick

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because he is a mega star. I completely agree. What Jersey number does he wear? Oh, I don't know what Jersey number he wears right now, even though I just considered he's a mega star. And I'm not saying that's the way I could. He is 17, but it was one of those things for the other day. I was thinking, I'm like, how am I talking to somebody?

How about what a star he is? And they like what Jersey number to do where I was like shit I remember I remember when that was like the most important thing in my life. Yeah, Jersey knowing Jersey numbers of players Oh, what a simpler to a sheffield 10 I have a much better shot at naming the 90s Jersey numbers. They think Pat rap was 48. I think how do you know that? Trout is 27. Yeah. That we know, yes. I know that.

MJ 23. What are the things in sports fandom that go first with age? Is it because I- I'm the name of the starting LSU quarterback. No, the Utah Jazz coach would be somebody that I would miss close before unless you start in quarterback. There is no shots who got snows as neither. Milley Nail Pat rap by the way.

It's so sad that it occurs so much more useless or so much more useful stuff out of my memory but not that for some reason. I know Benito Santiago because of you. I was your nine. Yeah, because he needs a strap to go in between the numbers. Childhood numbers you're going to remember, but uniform numbers, stadium names, ballpark names, that one has changed because of sponsorship and naming rights.

People are stubborn with that. It's like, it'll always be this to me. That's the error we're in now. I love stadium names though. It'll always be Joe and me. We're from the Spanish stadium names. What does that mean? It'll always be the FTX arena.

What does that mean? You're huge fan of stadium names. Like that they have names. No, I just I like being like, Oh, the golden one center. Where do they play? Who plays in the golden one center? Sacramento Kings like the beam, baby. Is that still a thing this year? The beam.

They still lighting it. Where did the pelicans play? I don't think FTX is not a thing anymore. They they that giant FTX that they put on top of the Miami Heat Serena, that we thought was too heavy to ever get off of there. They evidently quietly got it off of there at some point. I don't know if it was when Sam Bankman Fried was on trial. How do you do that quietly, though?

I don't know whether they did it in the middle of the night. Is it fried or freed? Fried. I'm sorry. It's fried. Yes, it's fried. Greg Colburn. Oh, four. I think you 14. It was a four in there. He's a four on the one. Yeah. Colby Dave Maggadon. 18. 18. Yeah. 18. Yeah. 18. Yeah, it was 10 of marlins for sure he was 18. Oh Getcha I'm gonna get my clole you started 17 the segment. No, he was 19 19 and then Kona and came back and Kona Who was 19 had to be 18? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they played. That's right.

Joe Robbie say no is pro player. It was pro player at the time. It was pro player for low years after it closed. You started the segment asking us whether anyone cares that Otoni is Otoni to the Dodgers now being reported even though Otoni is threatening to make everyone a mystery team. I don't think he can. Jason Hayward is signing with a Dodgers at this point. Last I checked Raph King sports book, the Dodgers were the odds on favorite to get number 17,

Shohei Otoni, who won't be pitching, but he can do both pitching and hitting both at a very high level. They were a slight favorite, but this whole mystery aspect to it, where Otani and his reps will hold it against you if it leaks out means that there's probably some juicy underdog so you can go after, there's some whispers out there, potentially the giants. It means you can never sign also. You know who's a massive underdog? Mine.

Well, they're not even there, they're lumped in his field. He's not he's not an angel. That's that's over and done with they had one of the greatest but they had two of the greatest baseball players in the history of the game. Certainly this generation on their team at the exact same time did jack shit with it. And Otani is just going to leave the angels and they're not going to get anything for it. That is crazy to me. It seems bad because you guys like to talk about Otoni and I understand he's got a chance

to do it at the deadline. They decided not to. They really thought this was a year. I mean, yeah, and everyone that they traded for, they ended up releasing. So I understand why the GM didn't want to do it because what kind of return can you possibly get for Shoe Otoni? But do you want to be the GM that just let Shoei O'Connie walk for nothing? Well, but he's also now the GM that is openly saying, hey, Mike Trout's available.

Like, it's going to take everything to get him, but he's available. So you lose them all anyways, but you got nothing in return. How does that thing not work? Because the owner spent so much money trying to make it work over there. I hope someone told Ron Washington before he's going on. They've just never had they've never had the pitching. I mean, they don't have other good play. Do they not have money for? Yeah, but they have two of the top five players. I mean, the pie they don't have that either, but they had O'Connor doing the pitching too. How it's puzzling? They had they brought in Joe Madden they had all the

pieces how many more years of pitching are you going to get out of them too because you got to think at some point he's just going to become a hitter. Well, he's not pitching this year Mike said that earlier. He's not because of an injury. Right. I mean at some point at some point he's going to stop pitching. How much money is he going to get? I think this injury has really clouded that like we were looking at a $500 million

player before the one so to famously turned down an offer that you're going to get again. Something like that. You think he's going to get this certain because he's also made available. He was at the Hurricanes basketball game the other day. I think the best example of someone turning down money was like Ian Desmond turning down like 90 million or something and then he had a bad year and ended up getting like a 10 like single year deals. So do turn down $440 million. You think he's going to get that? He's only 25. I don't really, I mean I've seen it in flashes with Sodo. But I mean,

no you didn't see it in flashes. You saw it at the end when he played for the nationals. You just didn't see it for the Padres last year. Based on how weird that went. Yeah, no, he was, he, the Toriesley has been getting off to bad starts. Like his April and May weren't greater than he was, he was great at the end. Right.

He's gonna be a free agent after this season. So the, the expectation is that he gets traded. But with one Soto, I mean I've seen it as a as a national flash and I could understand the projections that this guy's going to be the greatest thing. But since I saw him in a world series that I barely paid attention to and recognize that he's good I haven't seen the hype. Well that's something that happened to the angels after that world series they immediately gave 230 million dollars to Anthony Rendon.

Right. That's one. But at the time, everyone was like, good hitter. That just didn't work out. I think it was a World Series MVP. I mean, you could kind of see the Rendon thing not working out for them. I mean, most of these baseball contracts

don't end up working out, but it worked out for Otoni, and it's certainly worked out for Mike Trout, and yet they still can't win. Tell me whether or not you think this can work out. We talk a lot around here for some reason about Adam Driver. He's got a bit of an Ikebod crane thing working where he is lanky for Hollywood. He looks giant and spidery.

Ikebod worked. Compared to go ahead and look that up look up what's his jersey number look up crane and see what it is that comes up visually for you so I'm on the Wikipedia and I still don't know what I'm looking at are you having trouble with the spelling you're looking at somebody who is spindly is it a sear or k a fictional character is there a silent ancient ikabab? We're not making that.

No, Avin. Whatever. Once to God's we are making it. We've made it once. And we didn't actually make it with a real human. Michael. Oh, ikabab. OK, my bad.

You thought it was ikabab? Ikabab. Big shot, Bob. Michael Manns, Dugat, is having, they are making a second heat movie. For those of you who don't know, that is the first time that Pacino and Dineiro were ever on the screen together at the same time. People were clamor- It was so exciting. It was.

It was a good movie. Right. And it's being remade now, but they're not going to remake it with Dineiro playing the It was. It was. It was. It was a good movie. Right. And it's being remade now, but they're not going to remake it with Deniro playing the character. Was it McColley? It's not a remake. It's a weird prequel sequel because they tell the story of the central characters in the first heat, which were Pacino, Deniro and Val Kilmer.

You hear about the Pacino pass, the Deniro pass, and where it leavesiro and Val Kilmer, you hear about the Pacino pass, the De Niro pass, and where it leaves off with Val Kilmer's character. So it really stretches across timelines. But Adam Driver has been confirmed by Michael Mann to be rumored for the role of McCulley. The De Niro roles, do God. And I don't think it becomes the same move here. It can be the same movie unless you're having De Niro do it. But De Niro's last 10 years have just been playing grandpa,

I mean grandpa all the time. I, Danero's a great actor. I'm conceding that, but over the last few, you can say 25, 30 years, I haven't really seen like the whole like thing with the nearer. He was good at conceding it. He was putting flowers.

But it's very kind of you. Well, I don't want to end. He was, he was, he was really good in that. This was a take that I guess I fleshed out before flowers would kill him out. But if you wanna see an actor just totally nail perfectly understated, and maybe he seems understated by comparison

because he shares his scene without Patino, it goes freaking crazy in that movie, but Patino is so good. The character McColley is so, it's the glue guy of the entire thing. It grounds it in reality. And Adam Driver, I can see him as a fit for like, maybe the Pacino character because he is also very good

at yelling. Oh, driver, great, yell. Pacino, it seemed in heat was very much trying to impress Deniro by shouting everything, including, because he's got this great ass and scaring the hell out of Hank Azera. It's always got. I mean, this is game, butchino.

It's almost, as I'm almost done, it's a real page turner, I'm almost done with heat too. But it's almost like, butchino's performance just made the character, butchino. Like, can and now is, it's just butchino. And almost in like, and heat too, man has to write the character Pacino. Like, can and now is, it's just Pacino. And almost in like, in heat too, man has to write the character crazier

because of how crazy Pacino made that character. Pacino basically was shouting everything after Son of a Woman. Put it on the pole at Levitard Show. After Son of a Woman did Pacino just scream everything. It worked there. It did, and it's worked since as well. But what is this? Because Adam

Driver, I don't know this video clip that you have talked about since last week. I don't have any context for what the clip is. It is, is it press conference? What is Adam Driver doing? So Adam Driver is working with Michael Mann. Who in his own right is an insane filmmaker. I wish we could do a segment on the stories of Michael Mann shooting just Miami Vice alone. He is the method version of directing. He is just insane. But he worked with Adam Driver on this upcoming Ferrari picture and they did a special screening now that the strikes are over.

Adam Driver responded to one of the questions from the audience during a Q&A. What do you think about crushed sins that they look pretty harsh, grusty, and I must say cheesy for me. What do you think about them? Fuck you, I don't know. Next question. This is what NFL coaches have to do. I think he might be method acting McCauley already for Michael man. I am giving NFL coaches carte blanche. The same way my gave is willing to concede that the Nero is a good actor.

That's very nice of you. I am willing to concede to NFL coaches. I will never get angry if you answer a question. Fuck you. Next question. If you answer a question, fuck you next question! The Dan Laptard show was to got to sponsor by BetterHelp. The holiday season can stir a wide range of emotions and the specific emotions experience can vary from person to person.

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Who calls it an eating area? Nobody. Nobody. Right. Eating area. What's the bedroom? The sleeping area. Let's hang on.

I gotta go to the urinating area. I'll be right back. Eating area. This is the Don Lebertar Show with the Stugats. It's more eating. What the? Tonight's bad. our show with this two gods. Tonight's bad. Dan tonight's Monday night football. There's a something's got to give situation. I don't know if you guys want to cover that.

Is there really? Yeah. Guys, what D'Niro got together with Puccino for a movie. It was like, I'm telling you, a magic jordan, OK, playing with magic Johnson on the same basketball team. That's how anticipated it was. And they didn't really share screen time all that much in heat. Right.

Just in the streets when they were shooting everyone, right? But there was a, no, there was like, he had coffee with McCulley. Half an hour ago. And then the scene and the animation just keeps screaming every day. That's all he does. I had coffee with McColley half an hour ago. We talked to his area about how he experienced that alpachino scene where she's got a great,

and you could see Pacino scanning. Do I say great big ass? Well, what do I say there? I don't like. He got caught up in the air, and as Arias said, his real reaction was to be scared of Pacino and just go, oh, and they just left it in because he was legitimately scared.

But yes, Pacino got caught up in the air on that in the middle of his life. But they're famously, it's gone viral. I still have my doubts about it, but I watched once upon a time in Hollywood last night and apparently the scene where Rick Dalton is playing with the With the flame thrower the first time. It's an actual like outtake from the film where he's like

Can we do anything about the heat on a flame thrower and the cabriote turns to his coser who addresses him as Rick? It's like flame thrower It's like, flame power. It's hot. Stugant's just said, I had something I never thought I would hear, which is do we really need more heat? Who's asking for it? I mean, I honestly. You didn't wanna know what happened to Val Kilmer? No.

I mean, or maybe you did in 1997, but the separation is a bit much, right? I just never thought to myself after that movie, give me a second heat. God, I had enough heat. I'm sure people, I never watched heat when it happened. It was a double cassette, you know, couldn't get around to it. Right.

And then I finally got around through it several years later. I'm not sure. I guess it's one of my favorite movies ever. You are not the person that I ever have in any context, saying I don't want more heat, more general heat of any kind. Dan, some things just need to be left alone. And heat is one of those movies for me.

There's no need to make a second one. Tango and cash, it was great. Don't need a second one. Karate kid, massive mistake making a second one, didn't need it. The original was great. I think they're blending universes. The Jackie Chanry make and the Ralph Machio versions are coming together. Get out of here.

Get out of here. Get out of here. What do you do with Val Kilmer? Like you don't want to see Val Kilmer in another movie, do you? No, Val Kilmer clearly because of his condition cannot be in another film, but his character picks up right where you'll leave off at the end of heat. Which in the book is probably my favorite of the storylines. So far, I haven't finished it yet, but I'm almost there.

Patroner, like, so you just have a different actor playing the same character and we're pretending that it's, I don't like that. Yeah, I mean, we do that with all the James Bond, so. That's different. We did that. Totally different. We did that with Don Cheetle.

I guess more machines, a different guy now. There are certain movies where you need more. Rambo is one of them, you need more blood. Rocky is another one, you need him to win. What one it's called wins. When it's called first blood, you're almost inviting. Yeah, you know that. Yeah, there's got to be a second drop of blood.

There has to be more blood. Decrease say that this is something that's got to give game tonight. I'm gonna make more because that's usually when it's good teams. Minnesota and Chicago. It's almost like something has to give because someone has to do something.

This is gambling related where something's got to give. It's usually something's got to give it a three and a half line. According to ESPN stats and info, there has never been a week during the Super Bowl era that favorites covered the spread in 13 games. This week NFL favorites are 12 and three against the spread. So if Minnesota who is favored by three tonight and 75% across multiple sports books is on Minnesota minus three,

that looks like something's gotta give, Dano. Mike Ryan over the weekend sent me his moving on from that. Okay, I could not believe was so, which is that favorites in college football that were favored by double digits and in the top 10, this doesn't sound like it could be right to me. It sounded like a made up stat, 79 and two.

Yeah, that a lot of upset straight up. But there was, I think you can make an argument that this is one of the worst seasons in college football. And I'll can see there's no such thing as a bad college football season. But the thing that makes college football so great is the upset. That was none.

The only time a team got upset, it's when an ACC team was number 10. Auburn and Washington State were so close to doing that this week and so very close, not covering, Mike's not saying covering, they're not 79 and two against the spread. But you just didn't have a double digit underdog beating a top 10 team this year in the 81 times it happened other than twice. And it wasn't a double digit dog this week and Louisville and Kentucky. Kentucky was a single digit dog, but I was surprised that it was that

overwhelming because I'm generally expecting college kids on Saturdays to behave very often like college kids to be inconsistent. And there's more parity. Programs have come out of the blue to be good quickly. They just hasn't, by the way, speaking about college football because it's crazy that we have something that you can dub is the worst college football season ever

when the sport was totally transformed in September by Coach Prime. I don't understand. I mean, I was told that college football's landscape had changed forever by Colorado. And it doesn't seem that way. So, gots, let me ask you a question real quick. Which of coach prime sixth rate losses to close the season would you doubt the most transformative?

I don't know the six that he lost, dude. I stopped paying attention. After 60 minutes, what happened to me? Mike has enjoyed. Just a short thing. Doing this over the last two months and i have explained to him a number of different times that deon sanders won the season in the very first game yes you know where

no one tc you kind of forgot about it to like spoiling it knows it's a massive win over five win tc you and then he followed that up with a massive win over five win Nebraska. What bothered me so much in the moment and I think Dion will that's a good year for Nebraska. Well, they haven't made a bowl game in like eight years. Right. So I guess Matt Roll getting it done.

I don't know how Matt Roll invented away. If you see some of the quarterback they went again say you've even invented a way to not make a ball game this year. But what bothered me so much about the Dion thing is that it was just all too much too soon and it was too much from a bunch of people that had found their college football boys. That would never talk about college football, yet they felt qualified to dub and I'm lumping Dan in on this because he's one of these Northeastern media types that are just making takes about Dion saying the South. Yeah. You you were born in Jersey I'm lumpin'

yet what were we doing then if you look back at the tanks they were and look back at the takes and I was the bad guy for saying let's pump the brakes guys it's still a question is whether or not you'll get over three and a half wins these wins are over not good teams and I was left out and I was called a hater, which I, I don't understand the ammunition I gave you. Yeah, I looked directly into the camera and said, I hate deon Sanders and I hate Colorado fans, but other than that, I've been pretty fair

when it comes to deon Sanders. It's gonna take a minute. We, you guys put them on this pedestal. Thankfully, you have the self-awareness to knock the guy down, but you acted like assholes in September. It takes a minute guy with this Miami stuff. It does take a minute. It does. It took a minute to get to that takeoff. It did. It took several months.

But I was rational about it. We all said, well, Sonny Dykes fixed it in a year. Sonny Dykes year two. Mrs. Bull Game. It It does traditionally outside of safer few outliers. It happened in Nick Saban. It takes time to build programs. You were all crowning his ass and doing broadcast from Boulder, Colorado, like this guy was going to be running. What happened? Oh, they kept it close against USC. USC is garbage. This year, garbage. So what I'm saying is maybe next time this pops up and it may be as soon as next year, slow the fuck down.

But who are you yelling at? I'm yelling at the established media. Okay. That things that can just venture into this CD world of college football and talk about it with authority. You think Mike Wilbon knows what's going on in the pack-fault he doesn't.

He doesn't. Pat Mack, if he was buying into the Colorado, everybody was, everybody is culpable. Because it was culpable, but I took out 60 minutes before the season started. You are with me then. Now you're with me. Yeah. No, I understand how it's fun. It's great to make a four win team into a national title contender.

Do you realize the prices that you guys had for matures with high-pons? I thought in a second, Mike, at the time that we were talking about this, we said again and again, they do not have the interior line play to be on the field with I said that to my I said that. I said that. I said that. I said that. I was assaulted for my beliefs and my convictions. Mike. Nobody needed to want to be in it. No one was arguing. They had a great offensive line.

I was not arguing on behalf of them being a champion. I was arguing on behalf of them fixing what was one of the worst programs I'd ever seen and having a full stadium. Okay. Yeah, they have a full stadium because the media machine made it. But for when team, you didn't fix Jack shit. Like your whole argument was economical.

Indiana had $20 million to pay their coach. To not coach anymore. What's it said? Because they're in the Big Ten. Everybody makes money. Give them money. Give them money is a problem. The parameter for success is get this

in big breaking news. Success. He hasn't had it yet. No, it is not. In the current age, the current age of college football, it is relevancy. It is not success. It's, are you relevant?

Well, I'll check back. It's November. Is the on Sanders relevant because you just saw us two four star commits. He lost that quarterback, right? Yeah. We will see how we will see how relevant he is when his son's not the quarterback because his son and Travis Hunter were their best players. His DC just quit on him, which is fine, his DC wasn't great. But Dan, his big move was giving patch Schirmer play calling duties. On an offense, I was actually working.

You have to give him this though, like Colorado, Colorado State, game day going out there, perhaps we should have thought about that before we did it. You guys were running after a war point when he gets Colorado. Disagreeable. He's fun.

Yeah, for the week, it was great. It was fun. There was two different content. Disagreeable. Yeah, for the week, it was great. It was fun. There was two different content. And this is all that matters is content. Like two bad teams. No, no, no, no, no. It's all fun in games. And it's all content until you did that to Colorado.

But you gas them up. You gas them up and you were insulted. Everybody had off when I shake someone's hand. Yeah, you guys, gas them up. And they were, who they improved. And you've made them feel bad about their season. Shame on you. But those weeks, they were the biggest team.

They were all over the media. The media, the media made it that way. Yes, that was the fun thing in the moment. But yeah, because Genday goes to try to capture the fun thing at the moment each week. That was the fun thing at the moment. weekend. That was the fun thing at the moment They were at James Madison and by the way, they were at Duke earlier in this season which feels ridiculous in hindsight But they went there knowing like they went there knowing we need to get this out of the way now because I think that they

Did say they were like look we won't be back here. It's now or never and then they went right back I mean Fox was at the Colorado game for three consecutive weeks. They had the game. They fed the monster. Mike got juice. He got juice. Mike is so mad. They were right. Those three weeks, man. That game day and Fox aren't in the parking lot outside of Hard Rock Stadium. The rock. The Dan Laptop show was to got to sponsor by BetterHelp.

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