The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: They Really Made a Show About Our Crazy Team

Episode Date: July 3, 2024

Jeremy called out sick today but he did speak to the Miami Heat's new draft pick, Kel'el Ware, who shared quite an interesting Mount Rushmore with him and Izzy is worried about where his career will go after that. Tony wonders how we have no video of Wilt Chamberlain's 100-point game and we discuss the type of treatment Bronny James will receive in the NBA. Then, Matt Barnes of All The Smoke joins the show to discuss NBA Free Agency including LeBron James re-upping with the Los Angeles Lakers and the end of the Golden State Warriors dynasty as Klay Thompson departs. Plus, what did he think of his and his teammate's depictions in the show about the Donald Sterling drama, Clipped? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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LeVittor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. A couple people who aren't here at the moment, one is the me and Al Hassan. He got mad at me and left. No wait, that was another thing. You're gonna get an emoji text in five minutes, I'm betting. No, but Jeremy's not here. Jeremy was here yesterday. I was here yesterday for a second, and the only person I kinda close talked was Jeremy.

And then Jeremy calls in sick today, so either I got him sick, or I'm probably on the verge of something. But he's not here today, but he did. A lot of people at the parade have to be sick, right? Well, that's what Jeremy said, yes. Standing in water for six hours, probably not the best. Even in the cool poncho he had on,

it's still probably gonna get him sick. But Jeremy, being Jeremy, still bringing in content. And he was interviewing, was he interviewing him? Yes he was interviewing the Heat rookie the Heat rookie Kalel Ware is that his name yeah Kalel Ware and you know they got to talking rookie stuff and Jeremy asked him a question about his Mount Rushmore. Who is on your NBA Mount Rushmore? So who are the four best players of all time? Okay, I'm put Will. Well, gotta put Kobe.

Uh huh. I would say MJ, but I heard that some of his stats was false. Oh, you saw the Tom Habashter report about the Defensive Player of the Year. All right, so we're taking MJ off the Mount Rushmore for you. You got Will Kobe. I'm gonna, you know what, I'm gonna put Ant in there. You're putting Anthony Edwards on there already.

All right, we got Anthony Edwards, and who's your fourth? For my fourth, I'm gonna say bam. Do you think the Heat regret? I'm gonna say damn. Did the Heat regret their pick after hearing that clip? There are certain things that you hear a young player say. I'm legitimately serious here, Chris. It makes me wonder about the rest of his career.

Because there's a couple of things, all right? There's a couple of things, right? Wilt right off the bat. When you go Wilt on the all-timer, that's the first one that comes to mind, it starts at maybe you're nuanced. Maybe you get, oh no, this guy definitely gonna go with numbers, whatever.

And then he goes, gotta go Kobe. Eh, that's when he starts turning like left and you're just like, hey, I mean. And you just start saying like, do you have to go Kobe? Okay, maybe this guy just respects skill, ability. And then we get to the Tom Havrster part of all this, which is amazing. First of all, he said, I heard that some of his stats

where he didn't listen, he didn't read or anything about Tom's stats. He probably saw one of those big voices, did you know that some of Michael Jordan's stats were inflated? And then they'll just start saying what Tom Havish Joe said on one of those reads. Hold on, it's like what if I told you

that the greatest player of all time had some fake stats? Why do they have to talk like that? Focus. That guy's good though. No, his voice is good. So that's number one. But to drop Michael Jordan from, as he said, he would put him on there,

but because some of his steals were inflated, the steal stats were inflated is enough to take him off entirely, even though he didn't have too ready to go after that. He had to really think about it. Okay, but you're burying the lead, which is that LeBron James not on his Mount Rush, more of best NBA players.

I thought the lead would be maybe Jimmy Butler over, would've should've gone over Bam, because you gotta work that locker room properly. I'm gonna tell you exactly how the thought process went. So first is, he says Wilt, because he wants to appear to be nuanced. Right. Right. Then he says Kobe and

Mr. The reason why is because he wants a Jordan, but he found out the Jordan stuff might be fake And it's like I don't know how much of it is fake I don't know I didn't do the deep diving, but we've discovered that some of it is fake Maybe a lot of it was fake. I don't trust it anymore by the way a lot of will stuff was fake, too, but You know so now that you know Really quick we have a lot of video from a lot of world stuff was fake too. But, you know, so now that you know that Jordan's off. Can you point to me really quick? We have a lot of video from a lot of times pre, you know. Yeah. Tony's talking about a conspiracy.

And we don't have a Wilt Chamberlain 100 point game video. No, we don't. Yeah. Questionable. Makes you think. Makes you think, absolutely. So now he says, well, but I kind of, like Jordan is,

what's the next closest thing to Jordan? Eh. Kobe. That's how. I mean, it makes sense. 100 points, 81 points, right? Those are the top two. but I kind of like Jordan is, what's the next closest thing to Jordan? Kobe, that's how. I mean, it makes sense, 100 points, 81 points, right? Those are the top two. So now the third name, he's like, okay, I am like 19 or whatever I am. So it's like, who is the most amazing basketball player I've watched?

A 19 year old letting Tom Havishow take Michael Jordan off your Mount Rushier is absolutely 2024. That's how it works. It works is like, it sounds pretty reputable and it is. Tom Havishow's stuff was reputable. Now Tom didn't erase all of Jordan's career. It was literally about one season. It was once one award and his rookie season.

It was not a rookie season, it was like his third year. Point being, point being is, it's not rookie season, it's like his third year. But the point being, point being, is that it's like, okay, I see how this has shaken your confidence in picking this guy that you never saw that you weren't even alive for, right? So then you look at like, even Kobe, he wasn't really alive for most of that. 2016 was Kobe's last year.

This kid is 19, now that means he would've been 11, 10. And so it's like, okay, these are still like the things of a child. All right, so who have I watched? But he's gotta go Kobe. Yeah, he's gotta go. Who have I watched? Anthony Edwards.

And he looks amazing. Kinda looks like Jordan. Yep, without the fake stats. And then he realizes I've gotten the three, oh shit. I just said a current player that's not a teammate of mine. I need to pander. I need to pander hard. Not Jimmy.

For my employer. Well, you know, go with the guy who's around. No, you go with the guy. Who's around. And this is pretty telling. You go with the guy who the organization is telling you they're building around. They're building around BAM's timeline.

Exactly. Not that other guy. Now I would've thought he was gonna say Dwayne Wade. Over Anthony Edwards maybe? The guy who's actually had a career? Yeah, but no, he didn't think of pandering until the end. That's why, that Bam was a, that was a pander pick. Imagine a world where it's like pretty consensus

that right now Bam Adebayo is one of the four best basketball players of all time, when Dan had a list from Stan Van Gundy not too long ago That had him as a 13th best center in the NBA. What a time. That was not Stan Van Gundy. Sorry. I was I'm sorry Detective Tony's on it. He hasn't figured out yet. Sorry, Billy I don't want to still working on the 1962 video because we have a lot of video from the 60s including 1962 NBA finals Game seven Lakers versus Celtics, but yet no 100-point game also in 1969 we have that video of the moon and like that really saw a couple years later

Well a couple years earlier earlier. I'm saying I later after the point why don't you stop thinking Billy that's exactly what you'd want me to do. Yeah, which is why I'm not going to Got a little bit to the bottom of it got a little bit more insight into how the JJ reddick things gonna happen Did you see he built his staff a little bit is no that is assistance What who's he got on the list to some names? I recognize absolutely recognize to when I saw the names I was like, you know what? I judged too soon on the JJ Reddick Hire.

OK. Luke Walton? No. That would be amazing if Luke came back one more time. Scotty Brooks. Scotty Brooks, yeah. And the most important hire in the entire organization, Nate McMillan.

Wow, he went not one, but two. OK, so I like to call these guys the Miller Lite Crew. Hey, crisp. Miller Lite, the Miller Lite Crew are, yes, great taste, less filling, right? The Miller Lite Crew are the guys that were head coaches, and now what they do is they sit in the coaches meeting and they say, I wouldn't do that if I were you.

Like that's, and as they crack open a Miller Lite, like, I wouldn't do that if I were you. Like that's, and as they crack open a middle of light, like, I wouldn't do that if I were you. You need that. Every first time coach needs a guy like that. How do I get that job? Do I have to be a former NBA player? I'm gonna work so hard just to become an NBA player just to get that job.

That sounds amazing. I think, Jessica, the key is, there's one of these in every profession, by the way. Every profession has a guy or a girl, right? The idea here is that you've done this thing, whatever this thing is, and now you're like a Sage veteran. And so they bring you in for Sage veteran advice, but typically that just comes out as,

I wouldn't do that if I were you. But then also- Do we have one of those? Is it Stu? It's gotta be Stu, right? Oh, come on, is it Stu? I think it's Greg Cody. No, those? Is it Stu? It's gotta be Stu, right? Oh, come on. Is it Stu? I think it's Greg Cody.

No, he's the guy that comes in. Well, what was the character that Stu was? It comes in after the fact and said, hmm, you shouldn't have done that. That's Stu Gass, right? He doesn't have the foresight to say you shouldn't do that. He comes in after the fact and said, yeah, you shouldn't have done that, obviously.

You should have eaten that pepper. Exactly. I shouldn't have eaten that pepper. Wouldn't eat have eaten that pepper. Exactly. I shouldn't have eaten that pepper. I wouldn't eat that pepper if I were you. Six days later. So to have two of those guys is pretty impressive. Now what if I told you, Izzy, that's not the biggest Laker name to come out?

What if I told you that wasn't the biggest Laker name to come out? What if I told you that that wasn't the biggest news to happen to the Lakers? Ballsy. Brawny's contract has come out. That's gonna be exciting. Y'all ready for this?

Brawny's contract, we know it's multi-year, right? We knew it was guaranteed. It's four years, $7.9 million. For a second round draft pick, and that's not one of those two-way deals. Nope, that is a one-way deal, the NBA way. A one-way to a very rough summer league is what that's going to be.

Hold on. There's gonna be so many people looking to get Bronnie. So this is what I'm looking up right now, the rookie scale contracts of the NBA, because so Bronnie basically makes one one five his first year, one nine five his second year, two two nine his third year, and two four eight his third, his first year, 195 his second year, 229 his third year, and 248 his fourth year,

which is a team option. So at least. Wow, I can't believe they got that. Now listen to this. The number 30 pick in the draft makes 2.1 million. So that's the last pick in the first round? the last pick in the first round makes a total of let's set two four six seven six six eight six nine million dollars through three years Brawny is making Seven point nine through four years by the way. This is why I already pre feel bad for him

through four years. By the way, this is why I already pre-feel bad for him. He also's taking a pick up from his NIL. I wanna let everybody know that too. Lest you think they're like, oh, they're just giving him money. He could have been making more, stayed in college. Or maximum. I feel like, now this is to do

the second round pick exception is the contract, right? So this is a new thing in the new CBA that allows you to pay your second round picks. But it just feels very comfortable. I kinda know how the internet is gonna treat this. It's kinda predictable. They're just gonna be looking for him to fail. I'm curious how other NBA players.

There's been a lot of brawny defenders out there, really. Wow, did you watch the draft, Chris? ESPN spent an entire segment? Unanimously, what's so wrong with it? What's so wrong with it? You tell what so I don't know why so many people say something wrong. That's not how the internet works though There's a lot of Ronnie defenders on can we all agree it's gonna be split at least I mean jeez like it's gonna be rough It's gonna be very nasty from a lot of people I agree with you And that's why I kind of like what about the players gonna be rough like how are like the very nasty from a lot of people. I agree with you and that's why I kind of like, oh god, it's gonna be rough.

Like how are like the G League guys, and if he gets into, like how are they gonna treat him? The G League guys that he plays with or plays against? Both. The ones he plays against, it's open season. They are going to dog him, 100%. It's gonna feel like high school all over again. Oh, that's LeBron, son?

Like is it gonna be so much that we're, are we gonna hear from LeBron on this? Like backBron son? Like is it gonna be so much that we're, are we gonna hear from LeBron on this? Like back off a little? Like is it gonna be that? Wait, you've got people in the summer league learning just now that that's LeBron son that they're about to, wait a second, this guy. Who number nine?

That's LeBron son, oh, I got him. Your summer league is gonna, it's gonna be interesting. Do you think that that Bronnie's gonna wear James Jr. on his jersey the way he did in college When he held it up like it's a James jr. Yeah, James jr. Number nine. I would have gone James I would I'm old man. The NBA has to love this right they love this Every second of it does the Bronco James senior like Mark More jerseys, this is the first time I will allow a senior. Ever, like, everyone else? Nah.

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Not the joke no more. This is the Don LeBathard Show with the Stugats. We're joined now by Matt Barnes. He's a co-host of All the Smoke with Steven Jackson. He also is an NBA champion, a longtime NBA vet. And Matt, you are the father of twin boys who are pretty good basketball players. Saw them out in section seven in Phoenix, putting up highlights. So I gotta start here with the Brawny James News. His contract came out as four years guaranteed,

$7.9 million. And I guess, how do you think Brawny is going to be received by opponents, first of all in Summer League that starts in about a week. It's gonna be tough sledding for a while, but I think the overall situation is incredible. As you mentioned, a father with sons, I would have given anything to be able to play

on the same court in the NBA with my son. So I don't care what anyone says about how he got there and what's going on. I love the fact that he's there and he's getting an opportunity to play with his son. So I don't care what anyone says about how he got there and what's going on. I love the fact that he's there and he's getting an opportunity to play with his dad. But I think at this point now it's on him. You know, I mean, he's got the contract, he's got the security, he's got some money to go with it. And now it's about him and his game and what can he do when he's out there to produce. But I know he's been working all summer with Chris Johnson, who's the same trainer that trains my twins. And I think if Bronnie sticks to what he's been working all summer with Chris Johnson, who's the same trainer that trains my twins.

And I think if Ronnie sticks to what he's been doing this summer, I think he's gonna have an opportunity to continue to develop each year. And I'm, you know, around year three, year four, I think he's gonna be a very solid contributor to whether the Lakers or, you know, wherever else he may be. Matt, what is it with basketball playing twins these days?

You got your twins, Eddie House's twins, Carlos Boozer's twins, the Thompson twins. I mean, what's going on? We were all around the same time, drinking the same alcohol, smoking the same. Nothing must have happened. Exactly. All right, so, but, Matt, like, but my question was,

how do you think he's gonna be received by a opponent? Yeah, I think it's gonna be tough sledding. I think, obviously, there's gonna be fans that wrap their arms around them and embrace them. But we all know being in this game, whether it be media or the actual sport, hate is always louder than the love. So I think there's going to be a lot of people who are going to be taking shots and, and, and, and disrespecting him and his game and his family. And unfortunately, you know, that comes with the territory these days, but I think he'll

do a great job as his dad does of blocking this out and understanding, Hey, I've got an amazing opportunity. You know, my dad is the one that kind of put me in this position, but now it's on me to improve. And I think he has the work ethic of his father and, and, you know, obviously a high IQ. So it's going to be tough for a little while, really until he gets out there and proves himself. Have your sons experienced that?

If so, how early and how did you walk them through that experience of like guys going, oh, that's Matt Barnes' sons? Or we go go at them and I'm gonna make a name for myself by showing up the NBA players' kids? That's why I know it's gonna be tough, because I wasn't even in the same stratosphere as LeBron and my kids. Started getting it at eight years old when I retired

and started cussing at them. Parents cussing at them, kids going at them extra hard, just because I was their father. And I think it made them the tough kids and mentally strong kids they are today. You know, we've been facing it, and I'm sure Bronte's been facing it, you know, as long as he's been playing basketball. You know, obviously, NBA dads and this is the plug

because we have hoop dads coming out that we just, you know, did a deal for. But, you know, being sons of NBA athletes isn't easy. I mean, obviously it comes with a lot of luxuries, but it comes with a lot of, you know, disrespect and jealousy and hate. So, you know, my kids started facing the eight or nine and, you know, again, I think it's tough in them up to this hate. So, you know, my kids started facing the eight or nine and, you know, again, I think it's tough on them up to this point. And, you know, that's why now when they're on the big stage, they don't shy away from anything

and they're ready for everything because they've had parents and kids alike cussing and disrespecting them since they were eight, nine years old. Matt, I'm curious what you thought about the moves made in Philly, particularly with Paul George, because most people, it's almost like the Celtics. You weren't going to pick them until you saw them do it because of what the Celtics is probably, you know, close game situations with this team.

It's health, especially for Joel Embiid. And now I guess you could throw Paul George in that situation. But if all you're saying is, hey, they got to get lucky with health on Joel Embiid one time, isn't this kind of top of the East like disgusting team? This is definitely a team right up there with the Celtics, where you look at Embiid and what he's been able to do the last, you know, over his career, but really probably the last three years, the way he's been playing and putting up MVP numbers and really dragging this team as far as they got, you know, on one leg. My biggest thing with him is obviously, just like you guys said,

has always been health with Embiid, and can he play enough games during the season to, you know, whatever, register or qualify to receive awards, but also still have something in the tank to get his thing through the playoffs. Obviously, Paul George, really happy for Paul to be able to still get that kind of money, but a unique skill set. They can do it on both sides of the ball and

someone that's definitely gonna take pressure off of Embiid. And then obviously the emergence of Maxey, we can't overlook what he's been able to accomplish in his growth over the last handful of years. And putting himself as one of the top young up and coming point guards in this game. So on paper, everything looks good on paper and we have to see how it works on the court. coming point guards in this game. So, you know, on paper, you know, everything looks good on paper and we have to see how it works on court, on the court. But I think overall, the biggest thing for them

is gonna be able to maintain health amongst their two stars or two out of their three stars, Embiid and George. And if they're able to do that, you know, you put them right up there with the Bostons. But you know, obviously Boston got over the hump this year. So, you know, they've got that experience that been to the finals a couple

times and they finally won it so I mean again on paper things always look good but until you actually get there in the playoffs in those Eastern Finals and get over that hump to the finals and actually battle in the finals you have no clue what it's like. Speaking of looking good on paper the Knicks were really excited to get Mikael Bridges but in the process they've also lost Isaiah Hartenstein. How much do you think is that gonna hurt them or do you think they're just overall better because Bridges fits in with the rest of the guys?

I think Bridges is a good fit for that team. Thibodeau runs guys to the ground and Bridges has always been someone who's played high minutes. Anytime you can reunite four guys that played in college together that's amazing and it was a great story last year but you know as you guys mentioned losing Hardenstein and although his numbers didn't blow you off the page I think he was eight points seven rebounds or eight points eight rebounds his presence his energy the little things he. He was a great glue guy for that unit. And with Robinson and his injuries and knee injuries

and his inability to really stay healthy, Hardenstein was a critical part to that run, his toughness and all the other attributes he brought to that team. So although you definitely gained Mikhail Bridges, who's anywhere from an 18 to 25 point a game score, you lost a big part of your defensive and really team identity

because that's what Hardenstein embodied. Matt, were you at UCLA at the same time as Baron Davis? Yeah. Okay, so what was that like, someone you played college with and then years later now y'all grown up, you're adults, you're making money and you play together again. I mean, I owe it a lot to Baron Davis,

to be honest with you, he's, my career was, you know, blowing in the wind. Obviously getting a chance to play with him at UCLA, but then I was in Sacramento in between deals, you know, was Clippers, chose not to go back to the Clippers because I wanted to play for Sacramento with my big homie C. Webb, and then I'm in the Webb trade that sends him to Philly.

Don't get the chance to play for almost two years. So now I'm at the end of year four, like no real resume, nothing really going on, no teams are calling. And I'm at home in Sacramento and Baron calls me one day and he's down in the Bay. And he's just like, hey, we're going to play pickup at the facility if you want to pull up. And I drove an hour and a half down to Bay Area,

went out there, played really well. Didn't know that Don Nelson was up in his office watching. And that's really how I earned myself an invite to training camp and then a spot on that team. So I owe a lot to Baron, but getting a chance to play with him again in the pros. That run we had that particular year and all the injuries he was facing,

that was probably the best Baron Davis I've seen despite the injuries. And maybe in my life, that run he had going into the playoffs and then the playoffs were every single night no matter who we played. And that was with Dirk as MVP. Baron was the best player on the court every single night.

So getting a chance to play with him again was special. And I couldn't imagine being able to add a Jon Rush with us or Jerome Moise or a dad, yeah, Zurich or Earl Watson guys. I also play with the UCLA because, you know, that college chemistry is different than the pro. That real homeboy, you know, real tight friendship

and to be able to carry that into the NBA, it would have been special. So I know there's some great chemistry going on over there in New York, but again, obviously to lose Hardenstein is a tough knock, but Randall will be back and we'll see what he's gonna do, what they're gonna do with Randall, and if they can activate him,

the Knicks are gonna be a very strong contender again. I totally see what you're saying there, and I get that. And I don't remember who it was last year during the playoffs that said at some point, the Knicks are gonna get back to irrelevancy pretty soon for another 15 years or so. But isn't it, because I watched those Villanova teams, never once did I say, man, keep those guys together,

they're winning an NBA championship, right? Like, isn't it possible that a few years from now the Knicks are gonna be like, man, we really just put together this college team and thought that was gonna win a championship? I mean, they could be riding on momentum and high hopes. Obviously, Brunson's ability, I mean, they could be riding on momentum and high hopes. You know, obviously, Brunson's ability, I think, has shocked a lot of people, but now it's expected.

He's put himself up in the upper echelon of this game. I don't know what's going on with my background, forgive me, guys. That looks great, actually, I love it. You look like a saint. But sometimes when you play with great players, that brings the best out of you. And this is no knock on hard and Devin Chinzo,

but those guys played a lot better than we had seen them play up to this point in their career. You know what I mean? And that, I think that had a lot to do with Brunson and being in the flow and being comfortable and confident. So again, you bring Michelle, Mikhail Bridges over. And like you said, Izzy, I mean, this is not a team you would have saw in college.

Like, man, if you get these four on the same team in the NBA, they're gonna win the championship. But you, if you get these four on the same team in the NBA, they're going to win the championship. But you get these four now with the way they're playing, the confidence they're playing with, the system they're playing in. They're getting a ton of minutes and you add some pieces around them, whether that's going to be Julius Randall or you trade Julius Randall to get some other quality pieces. Those four guys can't play some basketball, but as far as just those four guys getting

them over the hump into the championship, that may be a taller task than I think they're ready for. But you never know. I mean, again, everyone doubted Jaylen Brunson and what he's been able to do now, so I don't really doubt him as an individual. I just think they're gonna need to add some more pieces to those four guys.

How surprised were you that Clay actually left? I think we all expected it, but it still felt like a surprise when he left. It's hard, man, because getting a chance to know Clay over the years and then playing with him and knowing how much basketball means to him and how much he loves this game and the kind of work he puts in,

he's always kind of been the unsung hero that it's been overshadowed for those teams. Steph is the greatest shooter of all time, but Clay's right there Draper was a huge defensive part of that team that held everyone together But Clay was doing the thing on the defensive end taking all the pressure off of Stefan before clay got healthy or hurt Guarding all the best players you insert KD the one guy that takes the biggest sacrifice is clay So I think clay has kind of always been the unsung hero of that team. One of the greatest shooters of all time,

could be arguably the best catch and shoot shooter we've ever seen. But unfortunately, you know, injuries have played a big role, you know, towards the end of his career, which, you know, obviously not having him be the same player he was, it's tough, you know, and, tough. And the whole thing last year was, is this team gonna stick it out and ride it

to the wheels fall off or they're gonna have to make a move? And they've decided to make a move. So you always hate to see someone like Clay go, again, an integral piece of those four championships, one of the greatest shoes of all time, first about Hall of Famer. But it happens. And to be able to go to Dallas, first about Hall of Famer. But it happens. And to be able to go to Dallas, I think, is a great situation.

We all kind of thought, hey, if he leaves, he's going to go to Lakers back home where he's getting to play. But I think he was still thinking basketball. And to me, the better fit is Dallas. You got two incredible guys with the ball in their hand and they need spacing. And now that's going to open up the floor more with clay and it also takes the pressure of being the second score because I think you know with all due respect as good as he still shoots I think he's more of a third scorer now and but still someone can give you 18 to 20 points a game

So I know he's gonna have a huge chip on his shoulder and ready to be a big part of what Dallas has You know hopes to accomplish next year, but on the flip side what Dallas has, you know, hopes to accomplish next year. But on the flip side, Dunleavy's had a tough run up to this point, man. Dunleavy has had a tough run. I mean, for him to make the trade with Poole, to get CP, to, you know, a year later, wave CP, to lose Clay.

I know warrior fans out here are wondering like, what the hell is going on? You know, we missed Bob, we want Bob back. But Bob got out, Bob did, like, this is the thing, everyone's like, oh man, like, Mike Dunleavy's not as good. I'm like, why do you think Bob left? He saw all this coming. It was on the horizon. He saw what was coming. He didn't like his hands.

From what I heard, he didn't like his hands on as the owners were, you know, doing the basketball things when, you know, that was what was Bob's job. So Bob definitely kind of saw the writing on the wall and got out at the right time. And, you know, obviously, Dunleavy, a former teammate of mine, great basketball mind, kind of got into a tough situation. But since he's been there, you know, no matter who's fault it is, he is the guy

that's making those that, you know, are allegedly making those decisions now. So again, to start off with the CP3 trade, to lose pool, to only wave CP the next year and lose Clay. Right now it's not looking good on Dunleavy's resume. So it'll be interesting to see if they pull any moves off. You're here in marketing, you know, and if you have Levine and other guys like that. So it'll be interesting to see what the Warriors are able to do before free agency is up.

Yeah, real quick, Matt, on that note, what are you intrigued by? What type of player would you be intrigued by seeing next to Steph Curry now that Clay's not his sidekick anymore? It would be, it's interesting. I really like Laurie Markett, and I think he's a big stretch four that has improved his game

year by year, a double-double machine that can score. So obviously, you add some size with them and someone that could still shoot and make plays, but you know, Steph is getting older, you know, so my question is like, who is going to be the guy that's going to be able to take some pressure, some scoring pressure off of Steph? And you know, I think that's the same focus and lens that Golden State is looking at now too.

They were hoping it was going to be Paul George. That didn't happen. So, you know, you look at, you know, the Demarja Rosens, the Zach Levine, the Laurie Markkinen, you got to have someone that could put the ball in the basket because right now, if I'm not mistaken, Steph will be 36 next year, or he may be already 36. So he's still great and still has more in the tank, but he definitely is going to need some help on that scoring side of the ball.

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This is the Don LeBathard Show with the Stugats. All right, man, we don't spend enough time talking about serious topics, real stuff happening. I want to talk about clip. I want to talk about clip because it's the greatest comedy on TV, unintentional comedy. And like, for those that don't know, they made a TV show about kind of Donald Sterling owning the Clippers, having to sell the Clippers because of the tapes of him saying all types of wild racist shit.

And so, they cast the show very interestingly. I would say, my man Al Bundy playing Donald Sterling is doing a great job. Cleopatra Coleman doing, V. Stiviano's doing a great job. Right. But then I think the budget ran,

and then obviously Lawrence Fishburne. Fishburne as Doc. But then the budget ran out. And they said, we gotta get the rest of these players. I got this roster in here. So Matt, before you talk about the show overall, how did you feel about the casting call for your character, for the guy who plays you?

Sharonis is cool. I know Sharonis. We look somewhat alike, I guess if you're gonna say. I think they got me closest to right over any other player. We're pretty much the same height, same complexion, very similar in that aspect. But you look at the other casting, and it's not even that they don't look alike

or they act or that, you know, they didn't act well. It was just look nothing like, I mean, you look at Blake's guy like, holy shit. Yeah. You know, you make DeAndre this weirdo that likes lizards and he's nothing like that. And like real philosophical deep guy, he's nothing like that. You look at Jamal and I laugh, you look at CP

and I'm just like, damn, like they could have did a little best job. But I think to your point, I mean, I thought they cast the main people great. I think Ed O'Neill was great for Sterling, Lawrence Fishburne for Doc, the lady that played V, and even the lady that played Shelley Sterling. Both did a great job and a great job casting.

But the show overall, like you said, it's been funny to me, you know, to relive something that was, you know, a little over 10 years old. It was entertaining, just how out of touch touch I think the funniest part is how out of touch Sterling was with life. Like he really thought that people fucked with him, loved him. He was a very speed heart and although I didn't have any run ins or any issues with them, he was just very disconnected to reality. But overall, I mean, it was

entertaining, you know, I mean, the the back and forth of what was said in big meetings and on a day to day. They didn't hit the mark on that. But again, I think, you know, I can actually consulted on this project early on when I first started reading the first couple scripts, I'm like, and I think it was just them trying to obviously, you know, you got to sensationalize things and, and, and make it, you know, fun, I guess. But, um, again, I just think overall, it was an entertaining look at, which was a very

serious situation at the time. And you know, um, we didn't really know what we were getting into at the time. We, you know, uh, being, and I was one of the main voices during that time on what we should and shouldn't do along with the rest of the team. But you know, I'm, you know, I was one of the, the leaders in that locker room. And when you look back now, you know, we all, I'm sure we all, if any of the guys saw it, you know, we should have sat out. But at the time it was too much unknown.

We didn't know we set out one game, do we set out two games, do we set out the whole series? And keep in mind, we felt like we had a team that can win a championship that year when the better teams in the league during that time. And this is right before Golden States rise to, you know, the start of their dynasty when we were the last team to beat them before they went on their dynasty run. So we knew our window was closing because we had a young, very talented

Golden State team behind us. So I think there was too much unknown for us to really, really make a huge statement. And again, it was such a spur of the moment. It wasn't like we had time to think about it. This is in between games. This shit happens. You know what I mean? So it's just like we came together. We thought of a little BS plan.

We knocked it out because at the end of the day, as one thing they portray, we were never playing for Mr. Sterling. You know, we were playing for everyone in that locker room and our family and our fans. I have so many follow up questions, but going off of what you just said, what what in the last 10 years has made you change your mind about we should have sat out? Just just getting kind of grasping, you know, the magnitude, I think, of the event and things that have come since then that have been big, that people have kind of

had some time to react and think and really have a well thought out plan. Again, this happens in between games. You know what I mean? Like we really don't, we have two days to make a decision that's gonna be remembered for the rest of our lives. So I just think understanding the magnitude of what's gone on, what's gone on since,

and still I really don't know what would have happened though if we would have sat out. I mean, do we forfeit those games? You know what I mean? Do we, does Golden State sit out? Is it a win for Golden State? Like I said, there was two and you got to think Sterling wasn't banned until we got to the second round.

So we sit out all those games and just say, forget the season and then let Golden State go on and play OKC. So again, I just think the uncertainty kind of left us puzzled and we had to make a really quick decision. So the lizard thing was completely made up because that was one of those details that I'm like, surely this is based in reality.

Why would they just add a lizard? They kept going back to it. Like they kept having him over and over again, stroking the lizard. The lizard, the braids, like me and DJ were like literally laughing and it's like, I was like, did you, was I high the whole time? I don't remember if I the braids, like me and DJ were like, literally laughing and it's like, I was like, did you, was I high the whole time?

I don't know, man, I didn't have braids at all. You know what I mean? So they had the braids and the lizard. They just made DJ weird and DJ was probably one of the coolest down to earth laughing, joking. Obviously you guys caught a glimpse of such a serious time, but that team had so much fun, Like so much fun, and it was weird because we would have so much fun,

but still had chemistry issues, which is crazy, because we would all get along, mess around, have a good time, dinners, kids' birthday parties, hang out on and off the court, but we still had chemistry issues. But DJ in particular, I think they portrayed him probably the worst because it was nothing like who he was. Oh, I'll tell you who the worst was physically.

Blake. Yeah, it has to be. I'll tell you why Blake was the worst. Was not only because he don't look like Blake, but also he doesn't act like Blake. Like, I thought for sure if you're gonna cast someone to be Blake, he's gotta have that kind of funny asshole quality.

And this dude wasn't funny at all. He was just kind of whiny and I'm like, that's not really Blake. Yeah, I think obviously Blake, I think they missed the ball on those two the most. They made CP really, really, really serious. But yeah, I would agree. I mean, Blake, if you don't know Blake,

I mean, on the outside looking in, people might think that's how Blake really was. Stiff, uptight, you know, no personality, but Blake is a comedic genius. He's hilarious, he talks shit in the locker room, you go back and forth with him, he's a great energy guy. And yeah, I would agree with his character, they definitely missed the ball too,

but I think they got the stereotype of Blake's character right, because if you don't know Blake, you might think he's really stiff like that dude was. OK, other than casting, what was the thing that they got the most wrong about the story and what was maybe something that they nailed about it? Um, again, I think it's really hard to try to put, you know, now that I'm in this space, try to put, you know, try to get the car from each to each location, like where they were like trying to get to each important part of the story. And in that, I think they just had to make

up a ton of dialogue. So I just think the dialogue was, dialogue wasn't it? I mean, we didn't talk like that. We didn't have those type of conversations. I think Doc was like the main consultant. So I don't really know how much input he really had. So, and again, this is not the shit on anyone who made the show because I think it's hard trying to figure out exactly what was going on, what was said in those moments and how do we get the story to each and hit each point. So I would probably say just the dialogue

and the way we talk to each other was probably the biggest misconception. And then one thing they got right, I think the way Doc shielded our team and was able to allow us to focus on basketball as good as he could. And then I think my favorite part was just watching Ed O'Neill play Donald Sterling and how burnt out he was.

That's my favorite part too. I like the show. Yeah, I had my favorite part too. I like the show. Yeah, I had a good time too. I watched it. I watched it. I enjoyed it. I fired up and smoked and just sat back and just like laughed. Like, yo, they really made a show about our crazy team.

Man, it's got to be weird to watch someone tell your life story or part of your life on TV with different characters. But Matt Barnes, the show is all the smoke. You can catch it wherever you get podcasts all right here on the DraftK different characters. But Matt Barnes, the show is all the smoke, you can catch it wherever you get podcasts all right here on the DraftKings network. Thanks a lot, Matt, appreciate you. Thank you for having me, guys, have a good one.

My favorite part by far is Alvin, because when I said Alvin Gentry, a picture of the dude that plays Alvin, I said, spitting image. Either him or Steph Curry, who's played by Dak Prescott. Right there. Steph's gotta be so mad. Oh, come on, man.

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