The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Tony & Billy's Big Lies

Episode Date: July 2, 2025

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end of the hour, as part of our 20 years celebration We're gonna have a behind the bit. This one is going to be just doing sports trivia with my brother Lebo He was usually pretty terrible at it. I don't know that we will have a better moment Involving him than the time that we asked him the most famous shortstop of the New York Yankees and he said I know this I know this Eric Jeter. I don't know that we will do a whole lot better than that. I used to like the mind benders. He would do mind benders, would you rather,

would be another way of playing that game. Have any of you seen yet, friendship with Paul Rudd and Tim Robinson? Because it's great, it's funny, it's awkward, it's got four or five just quintessentially funny moments, including a spoiler alert with Paul Rudd, that may in some ways remind you of Zaslow. I will tell you nothing else except this is the most

that Paul Rudd in a movie has ever been like Zaslow. It is funny though, it is awkward funny. I love the role for Paul Rudd, and I would recommend the movie to anyone who likes the skit show, I Think You Should Leave, which I've told you before, my brother's widow, in a crowded place, I was recommending to her, I Think You Should Leave, and she kept getting hurt

because she thought I was telling her to go. She didn't know, she was loud and she didn't understand. Well, who's on first situation? Yeah, she didn't really understand. Like she just thought mid-conversation, you're telling her I think you should leave? Well, I kept saying it louder because she couldn't hear me.

I think you should leave! And so, yeah, she was a bit insulted by that. But I would recommend friendship to anyone listening to this. But Tony mentioned something before we close those loops and before we get to behind the bit. Tony mentioned something during the break. He was ruminating about the worst things to step on. And I didn't hear any of his nominees, but the way that my mind works on word association,

that's almost the first thing I think of when I think of Legos. Like, if you ask me to do word association on Legos, I'm gonna end up in a video algorithm mentally of people stepping on Legos. I've seen videos of people running on a treadmill that's covered in Legos. So you call it Lego, huh? That's how you say it, Lego?

Am I saying it incorrectly? I think it's Lego, right? Legos. So you call it Lego, huh? That's how you say it, Lego? Am I saying it incorrectly? I think it's Lego, right? Legos. It's a Lego. Lego my ego. That's a different thing. But it's pronounced the same. Yeah.

So you guys, I'm saying it wrong, Lego, it's, I'm- Now you put an accent on the O. Lego. Lego. That's maybe the French version. It sounds like Jeremy's let's go So Dan here's the thing obviously you have your Natural comedic things that you step on that are bad a rake banana peel of those things I was in my house a couple of days ago on Saturday You stepped on your child that would also be a bad thing to step on but no I did not step on her

So I was getting ready hoops on Saturday mornings. I wake up pretty early. I'm in the gym playing hoops by about 7.30, right? So it's kind of dark at the house. I wake up around 6.30, 6.45. I'm getting my stuff ready. I go out to the other bathroom that's across from where our room is. I had left something in there. I was getting ready.

I take a step out of the bathroom, still dark. I take a step out of the bathroom here. Shh! I'm like, what? I'm like, what was that? Barefoot, obviously. Just got out of bed. I look under what I'm like what was that barefoot obviously just got out of bed I look under what I stepped on somehow some way a cockroach was walking in the same way that I was turning the corner from the bathroom and

He was underneath or her or whatever whatever Was underneath my foot as I sounds effect was perfect. It was I was like what it sounded almost like Billy's onion crunch Like that's what the sound was and I felt like the juice of its guts and I was like, what did I step on? I have like at this point. I'm not thinking I stepped on a cockroach I think I stepped on like a I don't something for the baby something like I like a diaper like something that was weird I looked down dead cockroach on my just like that and I was just like, uh But the problem is I had to hop over because it was dark Yeah, and hop over to where the light was to turn it on

Obviously as you can see my disgust guts all over my foot. It was on a rug So I had to sit there and clean it off the rug. It was terrible So I submit that as the worst thing to step on a live cockroach on my foot poor person, or cockroach, whatever, male or female, whatever it was, that was walking and decided to walk directly into my path. Let's go! This story fell apart with the details.

Once you threw in the rug, it wouldn't have made that sound. You don't think that stepping on a cockroach on a rug would make that sound? No, the rug's a silencer. No, if you had the tile or the wooden floor, I believe the sound, and I'm starting to wonder now Okay, once a rug was involved. Okay, this is real I want to bring a cockroach in here you be barefoot you step on it and see what's on a rug It would be on a rug that you're I'm telling you it the crunch is gonna be the same

Minor penalty two minutes for lying It was filed by Billy on a wild rush Wednesday. I don't give a shit what he says. You think I'll kick his ass too. The penalty has been called. Why are you fighting people? You keep threatening to fight people. And then don't fight them.

Then go to Vegas and don't fight them. Go, you gotta go. Billy has made an accusation and on wild rush Wednesday. Hold on, Judge Aslow. Judge Johnny. Is this America or is this not America, Jack? It's not, hold on. I mean, is that what I'm judging?

Is this America? No, you're judging on what the guilty or not guilty verdict is. The ruling has been made. We're not going to a judge. You've gotta go. Yeah, we don't use judges anymore. It's gone.

You have to go. And I'm sorry, it's Billy levying the accusation. He's not the judge. It's a Wild Willy Wednesday, and on Wild Willy Wednesday, he is the judge on this. And's not the judge. It's a Wild Willy Wednesday and on Wild Willy Wednesday he is the judge on this and you have to go, you may not have been lying, the story is worse if it's on tile. I think all of us say that's worse to be stepping on a cockroach on tile than on a rug and he has put enough skepticism around your story that I'm going to allow it.

It's actually preferred to step on tile. It's louder, to your point, on tile. It's an easier cleanup on tile. You don't want it in the carpet. Rug cleanup's very difficult. You gotta like, the guts are getting in the carpet. And if it was pregnant and there's babies in there, whoa. Whoa, that's dark.

Yeah. I wouldn't have assumed that he could have killed it barefoot on a rug, given how difficult it is to just generally kill cockroaches. And also, I don't know if you guys know this, I didn't learn it until recently because I'm seeing a lot more cockroaches than I usually do, the heat brings them out.

And I was not aware that the heat makes cockroaches be something that are gonna be more on your radar than they usually are. And obviously we're so swampy down here that the flying cockroach, the flying cockroach is simply not something that's everywhere in the United States, correct? No, the palmetto bug?

I don't think so. It's my worst nightmare. Like what Tony just described, that can't be true. It is an actual nightmare. Well, okay. It is an actual nightmare. Well, okay. My charmed life.

It's unpleasant. A barefoot stepping on a cockroach is pretty unpleasant. He definitely did it with the ball of his foot too, which is how you end up getting that crunch. And I think that, I think, no, if you do, right, it's not going to happen if the arch is there. Maybe, maybe, maybe it's the heel. But my assumption is this is just a thin rug

that he's talking about. I feel like we're all reacting to this like it's like shag carpeting. And that's not what's there. If you have a thin little rug that's there just for decoration, this can absolutely happen. I think we really did Tony a disservice. I was waiting for a judgment to be honest with you.

Wasn't necessary. Zazz, you look flat-footed. You do. I feel like I could profile you as a flat-footed person. I am. I'm gonna tell the rest of you a funny story that you will both not. You think that's something you could tell

when you see somebody? Dude's flat-footed. Yes, yes, with you. When you said it, I was like, checks out. I wore orthotics too. Or because you know him, that you think that he's flat-footed. I believe it's something about his face right now that makes it feel to me like he is flat-footed.

But you mentioned, Tony mentioned, in the dark, and I will tell you guys a funny story that you will not be surprised by, but you will indeed find amusing. In the dark the other day, I'm going through my closet in total dark at 5.30 in the morning trying not to wake up my wife. And I go and I get dressed and I do a full workout in the dark at 5.30 in the morning. And later in the morning, as I'm at the grocery store, I look down and realize I'm wearing two different sneakers because I grabbed them in the dark

and they were both, they both seemed like they were, they were different shoes for different feet but they seemed to be the same shade of color. One of them was white though and one of them was like a light beige and so I'm wearing two different sneakers. I wonder if anyone saw you at the store and were like, man, these rich people are so stylish.

What did David Beckham say? I did think to myself, I see a day where kids do do this on purpose as a fashion statement. They sell shoes that are different colors. NBA players do it. Yeah, we're here. They will wear different color ways of the same brand of shoe just to match the couple of different colors on their uniform.

I thought about doing that because I bought two pairs of the exact same shoe style. I do that all the time. And I thought about like, what if I wear one of these blue ones and one of these orange ones, but I knew that if I did it here, people would just make fun of me and bully me, so I didn't do it.

Yeah, we can't make choices that are out there here. Hey, Tony. I tucked in my shirt the other day and everybody made fun of me. That's so I didn't do it. Yeah, we can't make choices that are out there here. Hey, Tony. I tucked in my shirt the other day and everybody made fun of me. That's all I did. Just tuck in a shirt. Dork was an odd look. Man, see?

One of the things that came up yesterday that I look forward to talking to Ron McGill about is that I believe that Billy and the rest of you have not been listening to Ron McGill and so when he speaks of the Everglades, I believe that you guys do not have the same respect for the different kind of wildlife that there is in the Everglades different than the rest of the United States and how unusual it is if you're not used to something like the

Everglades to find the kind of animals that there are in the Everglades but I was legitimately surprised though I should not have been, when earlier today Chris Cody said out loud, what is alligator alcatraz? And before I answer the question, because it was quite the public display of politics that went on in South Florida yesterday by going to the Everglades and celebrating the idea that there is a prison surrounded by alligators. What did you imagine that it was when you heard the phrase for the first time without knowing alligator Alcatraz?

Well, I had heard weeks ago that Trump had been talking about bringing Alcatraz back, so I'm thinking maybe he pitched an idea of, we're gonna put a moat around it, no one's gonna be able to get there, there's gonna be alligators protecting Alcatraz. I know it's an island, but we'll put a little land, so there's a moat around it, no one's gonna be able to get there. There's gonna be alligators, alligators protecting Alcatraz. I know it's an island, but we'll put a little land, so there's a moat.

We need a moat, and we're gonna have dangerous alligators, the biggest alligators you've ever seen. They'll bite your hand off. I've seen them do it three times. The best. That's what I thought. I thought it would be alligators patrolling Alcatraz. That's not- Am I wrong?

That's not an AI image that we created. That's an AI image that the f White House tweeted out themselves. I'm right Hey, I know these are the aesthetic of fascism. So what is this? Tell me teach me. Well, did you see any of the coverage? Yesterday, okay. So you've since I know you've since learned what it is But when you ask the question question you did not know what Alligator Alcatraz was for the record. What do you know about Alcatraz itself? I've been Alcatraz. I've done the tour I've done the put the headphones on it's pretty cool. Actually one of the cooler tours I think I've done in my life go ahead Billy. I see the face. No, I'm just here. I'm just here I'm listening you I believe you were there. You don't believe I was there. No, I do

I just said I believe you were there. You don't believe I was there. No, I do I just said I believe you were there You did you put the headphones but he did you did make a face and he noticed the face and it's not guys I just don't obsess over me. I just have faces sometimes. It's okay. I can sit here Does he get thrown out for lying or no just so Hold on a second. I did not kill no Don't do with you I'm asking Dan. I'm. What is the lie that I'm kicking him out for? That he has faces? He hasn't been to Alcatraz.

I don't know. OK, so if you don't know the accusation you're making, why are you? You know what? You can get out again for just doing it. That's crazy. Rough week for Tony. Can I go with him just for moral support?

Minor penalty turn. It's for Boring. Boring? What? I feel bad for him. I'm going to go. Just to make sure. Used to be mental health awareness month and this month we're getting out hot.

I know we're getting hot. Just abusing people's mental health here. Hold on, May was mental health. I think it's always a good month to be mindful of your mental health. Weren't you leaving? Weren't you leaving? Weren't you leaving? You were leaving, right?

You volunteered to leave and then you decided to stay like a bad lingering smell in a bathroom? Because you said you were leaving and I gave you the option to leave and then you decided to stay because you didn't like that we just did what you wanted to do and so you changed it. He also left the door wide open so now we're going to hear the murmuring from the other room. I think Alligator Alcatraz totally sounds like there's a moat around the prison Thank you!

Like you had those escapees in New Orleans like they wouldn't have escaped if there was a moat with alligators outside the prison I I I'm with Chris. That's what I thought of when I first heard about it This is just like yesterday when we went from the Damien Lillard conversation straight to the Atlanta Hawks It's like it's wild that we're skipping past what this thing is to be like, but what if we put a motor on a prison? Tell the people what it is for the people that don't. It's our first sponsored work camp.

They don't have to worry about anything though. Look at them. Chris and Zaslow will never have to worry about being put in an alligator Alcatraz because these are not the kinds of people that those alligators eat. Congratulations to Zaslow and Chris for being. Zaslow might be eventually, that's normally what happens.

For being pink. I'm good though. Yeah, Chris, you're good, you're the only one. It is true what he's saying though, the flippant sort of alligator Alcatraz should be mortifying the idea of flying in politicians to go to that place on the outskirts of civilization to make sure that everyone knows that others will be surrounded by alligators there. I believe that what is happening right now in the other room with

Lewis and Billy and Tony and Chris over here has smiles on it that shouldn't be around the phrase Alligator Alcatraz. I believe that, look at him, now they're afraid to smile, now Billy's afraid to smile even though he's surrounded by alligators with ice hats that were sent out by the White House. Yeah, I don't know what to do with it other than make fun of it because the other thing to do with it is just sort Of yeah cry or cry horrified at we had a hell of a run America at being America It was pretty fun. But now yesterday at the fun demonstration with merch and Tours of the barracks of which these people will be stored in merch

Oh, yeah They have hats that say Alcatraz on them with little animated gators on top that they gave out to people. And on top of that, then Trump just decided to say, hey, by the way, we got a lot of bad people, many of them born in our country. I think we ought to get them the hell out of here too.

So, you know, he said, maybe we'll try that next. So the thing we've been saying about, you know, throwing people in work camps and such, it's happening. It's early in the administration, so you have more fun like that to look forward to. Can you tie up some of the show loose ends here before we get to behind the bit and before it is that Billy and Tony

and everyone thunder back in here to ruin the rest of today? So we were looking at the conversation about Arch Manning. Has there ever been a player that hasn't played quite yet to be projected to go number one overall? No, but the closest thing I could find, Eric Swan was a player who never actually played college football because he was academically

ineligible the entire time. He was still drafted sixth overall. We asked about direct deposits and when those were invented. That happened in the 70s, so it's surprising that Ricky Henderson couldn't have done that himself or anyone else. We were talking about blackout policies.

When it comes to the NFL, 75 miles away from the city of origin of the team is where you can get to where the blackout no longer applies. Orlando unnecessary. Okay, but where was I gonna stop 75 miles out? Am I just knocking on somebody's door? Hey, I'm here to watch the Dolphins. In a bar? Zaslow was right.

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because I liked that there were so many loops closed there. I guess I have to say that Capone is a better shooter than Duncan Robinson, right? I have to, don't I have to say that? Mathematically, there's no argument that Jason Capone is a better shooter than Duncan Robinson, no? Volume normally affects percentage, and so if you're only doing a couple per game and you're probably pretty open considering the team that you were playing on, a little different. They ran offense through Duncan

for a good portion of this career, but 50% for three is insane. I'd rather a guy who goes four for 10 than a guy who goes one for two. He averaged less than two shots one of those seasons. When are they heat running their offense through Duncan? Oh man, the dribble handoffs with BAM, especially that 2020 That was that was a gigantic chunk of their offense It was bring in Duncan Robinson run him around and just try to get him open for several minutes at a time We run around playoff games. He runs around a lot

It was just getting him open and getting him shot five or six shots on five or six possessions in a row I feel like I don't know I hope he starts it starts to get a little bit of notice now that he's no longer on the team, but man, he's, he's really one of the all time great heat players. He was here for seven. Yes. Well, just think about the context. Seven years. That's a long time in the end. Like he was here a lot longer than LeBron was. Right. Seven years. He was with the heat, he's the all-time leader in three-pointers, he's unquestionably the second greatest undrafted player

in the history of the franchise, only behind you, Donnis Haslam, played in huge games, two NBA finals. Big miss there against the Celtics. I mean, he really is one of the all-time great Miami Heat players. Are you hurt by this? Do you develop an emotional attachment

to Duncan Robinson with the Miami Heat? I usually am hurt by stuff like this when we lose players. I do get way too emotional. I don't want to trade anybody to get another guy. I want to keep everybody. I'd be a terrible general manager. I don't feel that emotion right now. And I think it's just because, man, we've been down the last couple years something's got to change We gotta get something new here. So I'm not emotional about losing him speaking of something new Would you do me the favor please of looking up the year that Eric Swan was drafted because I want to 91 I want to put in front of you guys in

2025 the idea of hey, there's a giant guy, and he's going to be drafted in the top six and get this straight out of high school. No college play, he's going to be a top six NFL draft pick, but his past is he's just a menacing guy that's so strong that he's projected very high, even though he didn't play in college. And he's not he's not a college age freshman, but didn't play in college, so he's coming out of high school essentially,

even though he's in his early 20s. He also played semi-professional football for the Bay State Titans. So whatever that is, that guy gets drafted sixth overall. How strong does that human being have to be? Now again, it's 30 years ago, so it's a different time in the NFL draft. But if that happened today where you had a guy

that I was telling you, you're not gonna believe this. Listen to this. He's so strong, he's gonna be in the top six, but didn't play in college. No GM would have the guts to draft that guy today. He made $5 per hour as his salary for the Bay State Titans. Bay? What was his professional career? Because he didn't amount to much. He was a defensive tackle, but I do believe that he did play in the league

for a while and he wasn't useless and I don't think of him as being associated with the word bust even though he probably was a bust if he's going top six and wouldn't be having much of a career. He was an all-pro. 1995 and 1996, he was an all-pro and selected to the Bro Bowl team. He signed a five-year, $25 million contract with a $7.5 million signing bonus in 98,

but he ended up getting hurt, knee injuries injuries but he played from 1991 to 2000 which is a really long career. So not a bust but none of you had heard of Eric Swan or Eric Swan's story as an NFL top-six draft pick who didn't end up going to college there aren't gonna be too many examples of that I would imagine. You remember the guy from Baylor a couple years ago That was like way bigger than everybody else where he would stand on the on the coin flip and he was just like Massive and had like these huge abs. That's the guy you could have told me he straight out of high school Be like sign him. I don't know what he is sign him that photo is so memorable that I remember

Exactly what you're talking about We're going to find it in a second. And it was a coin toss of a guy that based on looking at him, you would have simply said, of course, that person is great at football. But I don't think that person was even a pro, was he? Was good God. I do not remember his name, but I

don't believe that he ever played professionally, even though no one has ever looked as good in a Baylor uniform as this guy coming out for the coin flip. Pretty sure, just think about Baylor for a second. That is maybe part of why he didn't play. RG3 went to Baylor, he went to Heisman. Neither of you helpful at all with what it is

that I was doing. Okay, sexual assault. Neither of you at all helpful. We're named Sean Oakman He played for the alouettes. Okay, so he played CFL The Elks the Argonauts the aces the Wildcats the Rough Riders the Bucks and the torch So never didn't play an NFL down did not play that human being who I mean the reaction from everybody Was to see that photograph and gasp at what is it? What is one supposed to do about blocking that? well the answer is everyone in the pros could block that because that and the CFL everyone in this country who played professional football

Could block that evidently though it had to go to Canada in order to to play professionally It also feels like Derek Henry was one of those guys too when he came out of high school We had like a thousand you know rushing touchdowns in high in high school It felt like he could have been a guy that could play in the NFL right away, too Matt you're going to sixth period and then you have to go play football against Derek Henry tackle this guy Whoa, whose dad is that? I I have friends who were at Columbus who one time went to play Immokalee

and Edren James was in the backfield and they're just my small Cuban friends. I'm like, what are we supposed to, what, I don't know, they, like, at that point, Edren James was that muscular simply because he was physically unloading trucks that had produce in them as a high school kid. Didn't even lift weights, was just someone

who was unbelievably strong because he was working on trucks since he was 12 years old. I just love learning about Dan's different groups of friends. We have his math friends and his small Cuban friends. Studying for your math test, now go tackle Edren James. Well the Edren James story that is best there, I'm sorry, the Columbus High School friend story

that is best, Edwin James is second. The first story there is that same friend at his birthday party we put on all the televisions. Eudonnis Haslam in high school dunking and the ball going through the rim and hitting him in the forehead as he was late on the fast break. He's trying to run back because the coach is watching him.

The dunk goes through the... And we just put it on a loop on all the televisions. The ball going through the hoop as it's being dunked at Miami High. And it bouncing off my friend Paul's forehead and going into the stands. And by the way, Yudonnis Haslem at that point was playing for Miami High but lived in Miramar, like was nowhere near where the state champions were. Don't worry about that.

The district lines did not apply to however it is that Frank Martin got Yudonnis Haslam to go to. Got a lot of guys to go to Miami High by the way. They did have those banners removed, like they got them taken away. Steve Blakely by Killian was to go to Miami High by the way. They did have those banners removed, like they got them taken away. Steve Blakely by Killian was going to Miami High. Yep. I want you to imagine my friend's face

when he walked into his birthday party. Small Cuban friend. All the televisions, his the basketball, going through the basket and hitting him in the forehead and bouncing into the stands. Happy birthday. That's gotta be worse than getting dunked on, right? Is the byproduct of getting dunked on

and then hitting the ball against your forehead so hard that it goes into the stands. If I could have made it a poster, I would have. If I could have had him posterized at the time, if I had the technology, right? It's to just put a poster in his room of the ball going through the trajectory of the basket look he dunked with such ferocity all right we were down by 40 it was all of us for the Miami Herald high school sports show we're playing

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The worst part of the life of what? This is the Don Lebatard show with the Stugats. This is behind the bit. This is behind the bit. This is behind the bit. We take you back to a better time in the show's history, a time at least for me where I was happiest because we were at ESPN. It is now time to chat with my favorite more talented son, Lebo. Aside from being a world famous artist, check it out at leboart.com. He has also never willingly attended a sporting event. Let's test Lebo's sports knowledge. So again, leboart.com is where you go and we have some questions here for Lebo.

He knows very little. The game just makes me happy. It does. It does. It has made you happy for years. And keep in mind, my brother doesn't have time for this nonsense that we have to do around here. So we are grateful for his time today.

Dave, who is Joe Burrow? Joe Burrow, with the preface of that I know very little, I guess that doesn't have that much expectation to it. Joe Burrow is a professional football coach. A good guess. Yeah, actually a professional football coach. A good guess. Yeah, actually an amateur football player. But close, in the realm, it seems like. Longing to be a professional football player.

It's a bit of a moral victory for Leo. Good coach's name though, Joe Burrow. It is, it is a good name. What is the name of the NBA team in Milwaukee? The Brewers. Close, right? I mean, Milwaukee? The Brewers. I mean, close, right? I mean, close. The Brew Crew.

Is that a hat? It's a two hat point. He had something, he had something there. Can you name an SEC football team? An SEC? I can't know, an SEC football team, the Cobras. He looked at me like, what is the SEC football team, the Cobras. He looked at me like what is the SCC? The Auburn Cobras.

The Cobras is a good guess. War Cobras. What sport does Ed Orgeron coach? Hockey. Very aggressive and confident. French, it's a French name. It's a French name. It's a French name. It's a good guess.

It's a good reason for the guess. Yeah, he's with the Nordiques. What team does LeBron James play for? Cleveland. Oh. You're stacking up the partial points. You're on game two. The man that does nothing.

Partial points. The are the game dude. That's a good one. Partial points. For the man that knows nothing. Give any last name of an athlete who has the first name of Cam. I know this one actually. He has Newton. Oh! Yeah! That's me.

Thank you. Dan, can you tell us how this bit came to be? My brother was always looking for ways for me to take more chances, and was trying to teach me that it was okay to show your ass and be vulnerable. And so he was always somebody who was wondering why it is that I wasn't pushing the boundaries more. And so he was trying to encourage me to do that in a way that was

funny and exposed, you know, exposed him into looking like a fool and just to embrace the idea of being a fool. I'm still shocked he knew the Brewers like Anytime he got the answer wrong, but at least he's a baseball team. The guesses were exceptional The one that I remember the most when I think of these with my brother is how excited he was because he thought he knew one, right? He's like, the question was, who was the shortstop for the New York Yankees? And he was all excited, like, I know this one,

I know this one, Eric Jeter. It was interesting hearing Lebo's voice there. Lebo's dance, at the time, way more famous brother, way more successful brother, a great painter and a really great friend of mine. I love this segment so much because I always, I remember thinking to myself a couple of things. One, Lebo got so excited when he got one right.

He was so happy when he would guess and get one right. But I remember thinking to myself, Lebo is doing something so cool, unique and different with his life, and we're sitting at a table talking about it. That's right. Eric Jeter. That's right, that is correct. That's right.

Boldly creative while we sit in a cramped studio filled with colorful regret. Colorful only because he put it there. The coolest stuff in that studio. Yes, all of it. He's the coolest thing in that studio, and he made all of the coolest things in that studio. It was kind of conceived by Dan,

hey, my brother knows nothing about sports. Can we use that? How can we make this a character on this show? Because Dan's family life has always been canon on our show. So I enjoyed the challenge of crafting an entertaining segment around a man who's never willingly attended a sporting event.

Do you have a favorite Lebo moment on the show? Quite honestly, I think it's a fun that we had around that. There were plenty of activations that we had where he would be painting Roy or be painting someone else in the show. But it always, anytime we had him in studio, even if he was there to do something else, we always took the opportunity

to kind of quiz his sports knowledge professionally. Those are some of my fondest memories of Levo. They absolutely had fun doing this bit. When we were local, he used to do it on the phone, so you know, he called in and it was great. But the other thing was, like he also used to do the this bit called the mind vendor where he would come up with situations. What would you do in this particular situation? That was fun. He came in and he did artwork.

He did artwork of me. We're in nothing. My brother has arrived to do an artist's rendering of Roy very expensively. Sarah Spain, this really backfired on Sarah Spain. Roy is repped, man. Do you have that painting still? No, it was auctioned. It was auctioned. Somebody is hanging in somebody's bedroom right now.

How do you feel about that? What am I going to do? I mean, it made money. So hooray. He became a character when we were audio only. And I believe we were doing Man Who's Never Willingly Attended a Sporting Event and Mindbenders. That was another thing where Lebo would create these mindbender type questions

Really like that's what we do on the imaging Well, we made the the mindbender opening when we cared about the yeah when people tried when people tried on the production elements of this show Overdone though. they may be. What do you have for us, Lebo? Well, I'm gonna start off with what could be the most minimal mind bender to date, and that is, would you rather be a cat or a dog? Wow.

Really, wow? Really, was this approved? Was this? Well, my wow was at the lack of thought, Lebo gave to the mind bender today. I mean, geez. Really? Is this approved? Was this? Well my wow was at the lack of thought, Lebo gave to the line vendor today. Geez. Was this approved as if there's a committee meeting?

There's gotta be a screening process. There has to be. Because Dave, I mean last time I think you threw up a couple of duds and we said hey you gotta come strong next time. And you promised. Really? Mike and I worked on this. Would you rather be a cat or a dog? I don't know, cats are self-sufficient,

dogs are really taken care of. What, what? I'd rather be a dog. Yeah, pretty much. Let's go, let's move on to the next one. Let's just move on to the next one. I'm good to go. Okay, jeez.

Well, how about Leba? Hold on, what would you rather be, a cat or a dog? Oh, stop. I don't wanna be anything now. I wanna be off the phone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Dan, do you think your brother knew more about sports than you know about art? He and I would have no chance on an art show where they're asking. Speak for yourself. Yes, who was the abstract artist?

I imagine asking him a bunch of questions about Jackson Pollock. Go ahead, imagine it, yes. Good tight ends. That is a good name for a tight end. Jackson Pollock, I would take him in my fantasy league. Just by name. First round.

Do you remember when Lebo's art got involved with the show? Art became a character on the show once we became visual. Once we started showing up on Fusion and had the visual component to play with, it was easy to say who was gonna be shaping the artistic direction of our show and templating that for future use. What was your relationship with Lebo like?

We were really tight. Like you asked me what my favorite moments were Lebo were and they weren't ever really in show. It was more hanging out with Lebo. Lebo was a really good ally for me early on as I struggled with the enormity of the executive producer role. Lebo, in many ways, trusted me more than Dan did and saw that.