The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Top 5 MLB Names That Would Be Better in the NHL (feat. Mike Schur & Joon Lee)

Episode Date: June 5, 2025

Mike Schur is too fired up about Leon Draisaitl and them boys, so Dan peppers him with negative questions about his Boston teams. Then, Joon Lee joins Jeremy on this week's episode of The Pitch Clock as our MLB expert, and Chris and Jeremy's game of Taylor Trivia ends in a blowout. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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He kind of vanished. Couldn't find him. He was a plume of smoke. But now he's back because the Panthers are down. Leon Drysidle and dumb boys, bring me back into the fold. That's right, and Stu Gatz is here for you in order to speak your language and welcome you back in after a while. He has top five baseball player names

that would sound better in hockey. Are you ready as hockey names? Top five. I've never been more ready. Alright. I have some OLI here. Alright. OLI. Alright. Let's go. Dante Bichette. Jim Fragosi. Ryan Samberg. That's more 80s Olympic hockey team. Number five, Eric Gagne. Great. You're cheating.

Number four, Rant Mullenix. Let's see a trend. What a great name. Number three, Ron LeFleur. Number two, Joaquin Benoit. And number one, Eric Bedard. He's just Canadian. That was good. That was a good list.

I know. I know. That was a good list. I'm so proud of you, man. That's a good list. I mean, perfect. Absolutely dead solid perfect. There is only one thing that will make it slightly more perfect.

Video room, please, as soon as you can, put in the picture in picture a photograph of Rance Mullinick so that everyone can see what it is that baseball players looked like in the 70s, and I want you to imagine about six home runs a season. You're giving them that much, huh? I don't know, there he is, ladies and gentlemen, Rance Mullinick's in the corner there there looking like somebody would look if their name was

Rance Mullins put it on the pole, please at Levitard show. Have you ever met anyone named Rance? And also if you're Nate put it on the pole if your name is Rance do you have to wear prescription glasses? Yes, put that on the pole as well How do you feel in general, Mike, about what happened at the end of your Boston Celtics season? That is not, in terms of shocks, you were shocked, were you not? Yeah, of course. How do you think I feel?

What kind of question is that? The season ends at the hands of the Knicks, who the Celtics beat four times by like 20 points each game. And then in the midst of going down 3-1, the best player on the team and a top five player in the NBA tears his Achilles. The game ends, the season ends, next season ends and the team gets broken up. Take a wild guess how I felt at the end of the Celtic season. What's wrong with you? What kind of question is that? I haven't been here in months and I show up and you just toss out a

like, Hey, here's a, here's a question I'm genuinely interested in. How did you feel about your favorite team imploding in the playoffs? What's it like? What kind of question is that? What kind of journalism is that? You pride yourself on journalism. And that's the question you come at me with. How did you feel when the best player on your team blew out his Achilles? The reason I ask that question is because I don't believe that you've ever had a season end in that surprising of a fashion.

I don't think that your sports fandom has ever had what that had, which is, we're gonna win again, we're super confident, we're feeling like we've got the best thing, and at the very least we've got a chance against anybody. Oh my god, it's over. Oh my god, it's over for next season. Oh my god, it's all over. Yes, the people who made blimps were surprised at the Hindenburg.

Yes, correct. And I have to say one thing though. who made blimps were surprised at the Hindenburg. Yes, correct. And I have to say one thing though. The last season, despite everything Mike Ryan tried to say when I came on your show, the Celtics were winning the title. They beat everybody every game. They were absolutely unstoppable.

It didn't matter who they played under what circumstances. They were winning the title. I did not feel that way this year. People kept saying the Celtics are the favorites because of the defending champs. They've got the best team. I watched unlike you, Jim Oaks. I watch a lot of regular season basketball. You've been telling us OKC for three seasons.

Yeah. And I just I watched them a lot and I watched Cleveland a lot and I watched a lot of teams and I did I felt like the Celtics had a shot but I did not feel the inevitability that I did in 23, 24. I felt like I was hopeful that they could get to the finals but I was fairly sure that even if they got there OKC would win. So in the sense of like, was I shocked

they didn't win the title? Not in the slightest. I was obviously, the way that it happened was horrifying. And the Knicks series was rough, but I did not, at any point during the regular season really, except maybe after game one against the Knicks in Boston, when they tied a record for hitting threes, I was like, oh, maybe they've actually leveled up.

But the way that the season unfolded, it just drew holiday, had gotten a year older and poor Zingas always had some weird injury. And the team just didn't seem like they were as locked in as they had been the year before. So that part didn't shock me. You were losing that series with or without the Tatum injury, right? I think so. Yeah. I mean, after they blew those two games at home up 20

I don't think I mean could they have come back from 3-1 maybe but they just weren't they were playing into the Knicks hands They were like they were doing the opposite of what Indiana just did which is running them ragged And so I yeah, I think probably no matter what even if Tatum doesn't get hurt they're losing that serious Right, but it's a devastating injury because he's out next year. How'd that make you feel? And say it slowly, please. You know, how long has it been since I've been on the show? It's been like six months or something. I've been here a long time. And the reason that I haven't been here is this.

You want to know why I haven't been around? It's this. That's why he only comes on the pitch clock. That's right. I'm happy to go on to go on the pitch clock. Yeah, that's right. I'm happy to go on the pitch clock, talk about stupid things in baseball. What I'm not happy about is this. Back to Tatum so I can come with. Oh my God.

Coming up next, pitch clock with Jeremy Tachay. It's going to be right around the corner. I wanted to ask Mike Schur about, I don't know if this has been happening to you, but there are any number of apocalyptic things happening all over the world, and occasionally there are funny sports things that break out juxtaposed next to the apocalypse

that make me laugh. Football's owners getting together at the breakers and yelling at each other about the tush push, and Jeff Lurie, the owner of the Eagles, yelling and talking for an hour about why it is that he should have this play. I want to get your thoughts in general about the tush push. I just loved rich people wasting their time arguing about this, but I really did want to also play for you, Brad Williams asking the commissioner a question

that to me is tush push like and this isn't the spirit of what we're doing around here, but perhaps we should allow it because it's something that would allow people to get an advantage. Here's Brad Williams saying what should evolve from the tush push. Obviously one of the big hot topics over this off season is the play of the tush push, the shove, if it's going to be a fan, not, but my question is the late football coach, Mike Leach, it was recently discovered that he had suggested putting a little person in the backfield and actually tossing him over the wall. What is keeping the next Ben Johnson from having a little person that you can throw 10 yards at a time in an unstoppable offense?

I guess nothing. I mean, I don't know if that was part of the hour long rant that Lurie gave, but maybe he was advocating for it. Maybe this is how the game should go. Maybe this is the next evolution of football. But I'm serious when we talk about spirit of the thing, spirit of the thing. Isn't it, it's not a bridge too far. It's the same sort of silliness, right?

We're not, I understand that the tush push is still ostensibly football, but it's not football anybody wants to watch. No, I agree with you. I think it's kind of dumb. I really don't, I don't like the tush push. I think it's rugby. And I don't think that I signed up for rugby.

So yeah, I'm all for it. And I'm not taking the bait on the other thing you're doing, by the way. Yeah, I don't think he likes it. How do you feel? Do you have any opinions on Belichick and everything going? Have you lost respect for Belichick? I don't know, man. I mean, some part of me is like, let the guy live his life, who cares?

And some part of me is like, the thing that Pablo has been saying, which is something I agree with, is like, the part of it that's a story is the way that he ruled his little fiat for decades, which was like no distractions, do your job. Guys get benched for incredibly minor infractions. And then he's like the biggest, he's his own biggest distraction. And that part of it, just, I don't understand it. And except to say like, yeah, rich guys in their 70s

lose their mind. Like I don't think it's that confusing when you think of it as just a rich dude in his 70s lose their mind. I don't think it's that confusing when you think of it as just a rich dude in his 70s who met an attractive 20-year-old who showed interest in him. Everything after that kind of, I don't know, it lines up, falls into place. But I do think it's a story. I don't think it's not a story. I think it's like that guy who ran his world that way now being this guy, I mean, it's ridiculous. And anyone who tries to say it's not a story

is wrong, in my opinion. Oh, but it's not. You're sitting here taking the parts of the story that allow us to rationalize why it's okay to creep around in his bedroom and stuff. But the reason people are interested in this is the age difference. Like that's, and I can make the reason people are interested in this is the age difference.

Like that's, and I can make the subsequent argument and the power dynamics, but I'd say sports fans who know about Belichick's history in the Patriot way are doing what you're doing, but this story's crossed over and it has nothing to do with anybody who cares anything about how Bill Belichick got to the winning and it has everything to do with anybody who cares anything about how Bill Belichick got to the winning and has everything to do with why is there a 50-year age difference here and are we talking about something in the realm of Anna Nicole Smith like what like that's what's happening with the curiosity and

then it's covered poorly by just about everybody but Pablo yeah although I would say that to some extent the least interesting part of it to me is the age difference because it's like yeah rich guys in their 70s date women in their 20s if they can. Like, this is the 10 millionth version of this. Like, it's not new. That part of it isn't new. The part of it that's new to me is that his whole thing was don't do anything to give

anyone an angle on you and the internal workings of your organization. And then he's done the opposite of that. He's made himself the story and has invited all of this scrutiny about something that isn't, whether he's running a three, four or a nickel defense. So like to me, the part of it of like a 74 year old dude got into a relationship with a 21 year old or whatever she is or was

at the time like okay like yeah the dudes are gross they do gross things if they give their if they're given the opportunity they're gross like that part of it is to me is boring the part of it that's interesting is the sports angle to me put her on Bock Put it on the poll, are dudes gross? Mike Lutz Yes. Darrell Bock At Levitard Show. And also give me the start of the day music please. Mike Lutz Start of the day, start of the day, in this year's start of the day. Start of the day, start of the day, in this year's start of the day. Start of the day, start of the day, in this year's start of the day.

Start of the day, start of the day, in this year's start of the day. Start of the day. Start of the day. It is the start of the day. Hey. Max Muncie started the year real slow for the Dodgers. Then on April 30th was diagnosed with astigmatism, and they gave him glasses. Max Muncie's stats headed into yesterday's games. Before getting glasses, 28 games, a 180 batting average, zero home runs, four RBIs, 34 strikeouts.

Post-getting glasses, 29 games, 275 batting average, eight home runs, 30 RBI, and only 18 strikeouts. Vision, important. Yeah, hitting the baseball requires eyesight. Remember when Brian Roberts, like years and years ago, had like red contact lenses because it helped him see the grip of the ball better and we all thought, oh my gosh, like everyone's gonna be running around

with red eyes and baseball and then just no one did that. They were banned, they were banned in the NFL. If you remember, Kyle VandenBosch and Mario Williams also had those contacts and they were banned in the NFL. If you remember, Kyle VandenBosch and Mario Williams also had those contacts, and they were banned in the NFL. They did provide an unfair advantage. Mike, you've talked- Mike Timlin used to wear them. You've talked to baseball pitchers, though.

You can, as we don't really understand, the people listening to this, us, if any of us were in a batter's box and somebody threw a pitch 100 miles an hour that was a strike, we'd all be scared of it, and baseball players will tell you, it's a dot, it's not a baseball. You're trying to hit a dot because of how fast

all of that is moving. The idea that somebody is trying to hit a ball at 100 miles an hour, what do you imagine that looks like? I mean, I'd be flinching. There's no way you don't flinch. For me, the average person, I'm not saying that a major league player would do it. I think it looks like something you don't see. That's what it looks like. I don't think you see it. I don't think the human eye registers a ball at that speed at the size of

a baseball. Do you think I have this wrong? No, I think you have it right. I mean, the funny thing about Muncie is that astigmatism specifically, I have astigmatism, a lot of people do. And basically what it means is if you if there's a dot in your field of vision, like a dot of light, you see it as two dots. So like it like splits apart. So he was swinging ostensibly at like one of two things that were going a hundred thousand hours. How about him hitting 180 with that? Yeah, I know. Yeah.

It's actually more impressive than what he's done post-glasses. But it seems like a typical Max Muncie season. I mean, that's how it goes for Max Muncie, with or without glasses, no? Yeah, I think he's a little better than 180 and no homers. I mean. Like hitting a ball. He's 228 for his career.

Yeah, it's better than 180. It is better than 180. There's no disputing that. Let's spin the wheel here with Mike Schur, and let's see what it lands on. We have Raphael Devers. We have the state of the television industry. We have Elon Musk.

And we have Mike Schur talks even more slowly about his Jason Tatum pain. What did it land on there, Mike? Can you see? Jason Tatum pain. Where Mike, can you see? Jason Tatum Payne. Oh wow. Where does this leave you guys? You guys are gonna get rid of players either way because somebody paid six billion dollars for the franchise.

You're gonna probably get rid of poor Zingus, but now an entire year is wasted with what Bomani Jones called probably the last fringe superstar, the tipping point when it comes to superstars. I was asking the other Mike. I was asking the other Mike where that wheel landed. What is this season going to be like? Are you going to be bad? I'll give Mike what he wants. I'll give him what he wants. Elon Musk. I think there's a real chance that next year is a truly disastrous season. I think there's a chance that the Celtics end up something like

37 and 45 and just give their fans no hope at all for any like barely make the play in and have to sort of like have a have a bunch of guys on the team saying like, you know, don't let us win this play in game because we have the heart of a champion and we could make some noise in the playoffs if we win this play in game. Like that's obviously a worst case scenario for a franchise. And I think that's possible for the Celtics next year. That sounds like hell.

Can't wait for you to go through it. Let's spin the wheel again. We've got the NBA All-Star game, USA versus the world. We've got Trump's support of Pete Rose being a factor and Rob Manfred allowing him into the Hall of Fame. We've got Raphael Devers. We've got the state of the TV industry and we've got Elon Musk.

And again, on the wheel is also, speak even more slowly about the Jason Tatum injury. Where did it land there, Mike? Speak even more slowly about that. I wasn't talking to you. I wasn't talking to you. You can see why he's confused though. I'm asking.

The other Mike has an astigmatism. I'm asking the other Mike. Yeah I'm seeing two wheels. I thought you were going to say I'm seeing two assholes. Yeah look again, nightmare, absolute nightmare scenario to be trapped in that limbo where you can't attract any free agents. You're just, you know, chasing these guys Durant and Janis every year and not getting them.

You're, you know, you're drafting like 16th and you have to hope that some random guy Raphael Devers on On the list here Elon Musk and then talking fast about Jason Taylor. Yeah, you're not respecting the wheel You're not respecting what it is that we're doing here. You continue to make fun of the Miami Heat. That's not I can't see the wheel I'm relying on Mike Ryan Where it landed Mike astigmatism, uh, Elon Musk. I mean, what's like the, what is there to say about that guy? It's like the worst living human beings. Well, I mean, there was a pivot like 24 hours ago. Well, that's what that's,

there we go. That's the opinion. We're trying to draw a mic shirt Come on. There's no this is a fake out. It's BS They're not actually at each other's throats or not turning on one another talk to me I'm sure that Somewhere in that bill was something that he wanted and didn't get or something that he didn't want and they put it anyway He's you it's not a pivot when you're like when you have our at least displaying the qualities of an addict You don't pivot you just you ricochet around like you you have one thought one day and another thought the next day Like he's not pivoting. He's a lunatic. And by the way, I'm sure you've talked about this recently

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Like an absolute, one of the great calls of all time by Stu Gotz. Yep, good hockey game too. It's Stu Gotz was right? Holy s***, Stu Gotz was right. This is the greatest example ever. Hallelujah. You would have enjoyed hearing Billy try to convince Stu Gotz that because StuGotzBook.com now has a 47% off discount

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Welcome to the Pitch Clock. Here's the pitch, a two-part baseball segment combining a nostalgic baseball trivia game and an interview with an expert. This is the Pitch Clock. The Pitch Clock is back baseball. Hi, there's Chris. We're gonna play a game in just a second with Taylor. We have our 2025 MLB expert June Lee joining us in moments. But Taylor, what's

our game for today? I'm gonna give you guys a player from 2002. You have to say who whose opening day lineup or roster they were on. Six rounds, 12 total players. We'll do Jeremy first, then Chris. First name. Carlos Beltran. Who's going?

Me. In 2002, Carlos Beltran was on the Royals opening day roster. Oh my God. He was on the Royals. I was gonna go. Good snipe there. Come on man.

That's where we gotta start. All right, one nothing lead, that's quick. Chris Cody, Jeff Konine. See this isn't, I know this. Because they traded for him in 03 back from, I believe, that he was a Philly. He was not a Philly in 2002. He was in 03. He signed with the Phillies as a Philly. He was not a Philly in 2002.

He signed with the Phillies as a free agent going into 2003 and then got traded that season. I know where he was. Where was he? Jeremy, you have a chance to steal. Can I steal back if he gets it wrong? Can I steal back if he gets it wrong? No. I don't think that's how it works.

Was he a Baltimore Oriole that year? Of course that's what it was. Chris, he got Oriole again. He wasn't Oriole. He got Oriole later? Of course that's what it was. Chris you got Oriole again. He wasn't Oriole. You got Oriole again! I mean unfortunately the double stuff Oriole last week did not lead to a victory so I'm not gonna get too cocky but it is two nothing after one round. Jeremy, David Justice. There's two teams that came to mind immediately with David Justice and in in 2002 And in 2002, I can't decide if he was still with the...

Talk it out. Where was he? I am. Well, I don't... I'm gonna go ahead and guess that he was a... He said an A. He said an A, so that's his final answer. An Atlanta Brave. He was not an Atlanta Brave.

All right, then I know what it was. Just to avoid some terrible embarrassment here, I'm gonna just say the Oakland A's. Chris Cody, you almost gave him the right answer. Wow! Really? What a giant mistake. You looked at me like, should I say the A's? Now I'm panicked.

Because now you have an opportunity to tie in. I got cocky immediately in the first round. And now it's time for June Lee to join us here on this episode of the Pitch Clock as our 2025 MLB expert. June, we're gonna dive into some of what you're doing right now in your work in just a couple of minutes, but I wanna start here on the Major League Baseball topic. And we're gonna start with a team that is at the top of most people's power rankings right now,

maybe the best team in the National League. It's the Philadelphia Phillies, who at the time of this recording, since April 26th, are 21 and six. But June, when we look at the Philadelphia Phillies, at this point, with the way they're playing, with what their roster looks like, should we be considering them the cream of the crop in the National League and the real team to beat potentially over the Dodgers?

I think that we're currently reaching a place where there's a bit of like a reality check with the Phillies. And I think part of that comes with Jesus Lizardo and kind of the uncertainty around his last star where he gave up 12 runs and Bryce Harper's been injured and it doesn't seem like he's going on the IL. But you know, I think that there's just a lot of these compounding things happening with the Phillies right now. You know, I think that the Phillies when the offense goes cold, it goes very

cold. And the bullpen just isn't as good as it has been the last few years. And you know, they lost Jose Alvarado, and he's been a crucial part of their bullpen, of course, the last few seasons. And so this team is really talented. Do I expect Kyle Schwabert to be as hot as he's been to start the season for the rest of the year? Probably not. But I think one of the interesting wild cards with this team is, you know, the rehab of their top prospect Andrew Painter and how he potentially factors in for the second half of the season. If you're able to get

like 80% of what you think Andrew Painter can be out of the game and also just Aaron Nola like not being terrible. Right. Like that can really I think kind of change the prognosis for this team, but you know, I think it's, this is definitely a playoff team. Is it a team that I'm picking over the Dodgers? Probably not. Actually, definitely not.

You mentioned Andrew Painter is a guy that the Phillies have been waiting on. And this week is the call-up of a guy that we've all, not necessarily been waiting on because this is a pretty early call up, but Jack Caglione, the former Florida Gator, who is now called up to the Kansas City Royals, one of the great power hitting prospects that we've seen in Major League Baseball in a long time.

So June, what does it mean that the Royals are calling him up now? What does it say about the player and your expectations of him? And given the fact that they might lose a year of arbitration up now, what does it say about the player and your expectations of him? And given the fact that they might lose a year of arbitration with him, what does it say about what they think of what he will ultimately be? I mean, I think that it speaks just as much to kind of the place that the Royals are in as a franchise,

where they're trying to figure out their identity for the next generation. Obviously they have to face their franchise with Bobby Wood Jr. That's right. But I think I'm a little bit of a Caglione skeptic in terms of the hype behind him because part of why he was so interesting coming out of Florida was the fact

that he was a two way prospect. And obviously that was coming out of the height of Showy Otani, I think blowing everyone's minds, doing what he did, doing what he's done, excuse me, for as long as he's done. That's right. You look at a guy like Pete Alonso, who is like a prodigious powerheader for this generation, a guy who hits, you know, moon shots and has a higher exit velocity than most guys. What I really look to see when a guy comes up is a guy can get hot for the first month of a season and that especially happens a lot with prospects but when the league adjusts back to them and they start picking out the holes in their swing and the holes in their approach are they able to adjust back and at that point I think

it's easier for me to be like oh that guy's going to be very good. I just always am a little bit skeptical of a lot of hype going behind a guy who obviously has a lot of power, but you know, could be a little bit more limited in terms of his value ceiling. What's Chris's name here, Taylor? Robin Ventura. Well, there are just really, there are not a ton of teams that jump out to me for Robin Ventura. Two of them are pretty, why are you looking all weird? Because I don't want to give you anything as you talk through this.

Yeah. I'm just gonna go with the first team that popped in my head. I'm not gonna prolong this here. I'll go Mets. He was not a Mets in 2002 opening day roster. Should have known that, see he does this thing. It's like the team you associate with, it's not going to be that guy. Yeah, it's never going to be that.

And the Mets was where... I want to throw this at Tame. The Mets were... Did it hit? I missed the camera. The... Nice reaction time. I'm going to go ahead and make my...

Is... was he a Royal? He was not a Royal. Chris. White Sock. Chris, right City, wrong team. He was a Yankee. Oh, wow. In 2002, Robin Ventura was a Yankee. Yeah. Can you grab that pen? I threw it. White sock. Chris, right city, wrong team. He was a Yankee. Oh wow. In 2002, Robin Ventura was a Yankee, huh? Can you grab that pen I threw?

Not yet. All right, let's pick this back up. Round three. That kind of thing. Crate Council. Huh. There's one, it's one of two teams. Good, so you say one of them,

and if it's wrong, I'll guess the other. Yeah. I'm gonna go ahead and just say that at the start of that year he was an Arizona Diamondback. Thank you. He was a Diamondback. Oh thank God. I was just I knew the other team. I was nervous. Yeah the other team would have been the Brewers. Right 3-1 game here and Chris Cody's up. Chris Cody, Chris Carpenter, a fellow Chris. I mean I can't think of other teams this guy played for. Yeah it's one team. I mean, I can't think of other teams this guy played for. Yeah, it's one team. I genuinely, I genuinely, I know it's not.

I know it's not. And I know that there's a team that he was on. Taylor, don't make that face because that implies that you would do it. So now I'm going to say the team that I'm thinking and then it's going to be wrong. And that's a jerk move. You just, you're not supposed to make any faces, Taylor.

Cardinals. He was not a Cardinal. No way that he was a Cardinals. He was not a Cardinals. No way that he was a Cardinal. I cannot remember the team that he was on. Oh, was he a Toronto Blue J? He was a Blue J. Oh! So it's 4-1.

4-1, headed into round four. My next name here. Can I still win? Yeah, yeah, there's plenty of opportunity. I wanna talk to you, June, now about the work that you've been doing, because for those who don't know, June has been doing work on his YouTube channel, the handle is Iamjunelee, and if you just look up

Junelee on YouTube, you will find all of his work, but one of the recent projects that you had was with Adam Ottavino. So, Jude, I want to dive into this with you. You squared off against a big leaguer. Tell me about this experience and what were your biggest takeaways from the time that you spent with Adam in the work that you're doing here on your YouTube channel? Yeah, I mean, I think I've always been curious about what it's like to step into the batter's box against the major league pitcher.

And I thought that Adam in particular was an interesting person because of his kind of role in the safer metric evolution of the sport and his sweeper kind of being one of those pitches that I think a lot of young players today coming up have said that kind of helped them rethink their approach on the mound and kind of their arsenal. So that part was really interesting. But the second reason I thought it was really interesting is like, we live in a time where

the average Major League reliever, almost starting pitcher too, is pumping at least 95 to 100. And Adam is 40 years old and at the time was still kind of had these major league opportunities. Adam was kind of on the lower end of the velocity spectrum. And so I wanted to kind of contextualize that experience as a whole as well, because I think we live in a time where, you know, and I'm not saying that I'm immune to this, but like, there's so many hot takes. Yes. And people love to criticize athletes and their performance on the field or on the court. And I think that it is important to take a step back

sometimes to remember that, you know, someone like Adam Ottavino, who is the type of person in baseball specifically, who gets demolished on social media by giving up a home run in a crucial spot in the eighth inning. Like the type of guy that both Yankees Twitter and Mets Twitter have like a vengeance against

is still significantly better than the average human being at the thing that they do. And so, you know, I think that there's, you know, I wanted to like kind of do a fun YouTube stunt, but I also, I think also wanted to kind of contextualize it in the sports media time that we live in right now. There's some wonderful humanity in that piece as well. So I really recommend people go to June's YouTube channel

and follow him on Instagram. But let's end here, June. Two guys that I want to focus on here this week, and I'm gonna have you choose either Ronald Dacunha Jr., who's come back from his injury and gotten off to a ridiculously hot start, potentially influencing what the Braves can do this year, or the superstar that nobody ever seems to talk about,

a guy who is always in the top five to 10 of every offensive category in baseball, Jose Ramirez, who's doing it yet again this season for Cleveland. Which of these two guys do you want to focus on, June? I have a soft spot in my heart for Jose Ramirez just because he has been so good for so long. And the fact that he hits for as much power that he does,

the fact that his game is as well-rounded as it is, the fact that like, you know, I think in part because of the language barrier, most baseball fans don't really know a lot about him. Like he's lived a great life to be able to like, do what you love, get paid in the way that he has and go completely unrecognized probably in most of the world, I would imagine except for his hometown and his home country.

Like, it's a pretty good life to be living. One of the great baseball players, not just of this decade, of this century. Go look at his statistics, he's been unbelievable. June, this has been an unbelievable conversation. June, we're gonna get back to trivia, but thank you for joining us, and we'll have you back here next week.

Jeremy, Gary Sheffield. Now, I know it's not Milwaukee. You said Milwaukee. And then I said I know it's not Milwaukee. Until it ends up being Milwaukee, which would be very funny. But I know it's not Milwaukee. I know it's not Florida. All right. I'm gonna guess Yankees He was not a yeah, he wasn't there yet. I can't believe I can't remember where he was at this time in his career

Atlanta brave He was a brave brave. Of course. He was a brave sneaky amount of he was for Sheffield Oh, you play you played for like nine different teams, right teams. I had written down here. You had Braves and Yankees That's funny. If you don't get this one, maybe I need to stick with that. It's alright. This is a huge Name pick the easiest one left. Let's go play the game I'm staying true to form in this list give the people what they want a close game Eddie Guardado

You yeah, you're an asshole. No, I know this one I see this I see it come in He's like, oh you're gonna asshole. No, I know this one. I see this. I see it coming. He's like, oh, you're going to say twins because that's where he was popular. But no, he signed with the Mariners at this point. Mariners. He was not a Mariner. Twins. He was a twin.

That's bullsh- Taylor, Taylor, you can't. That is such bullsh- Taylor. Dude, I swear to you, I didn't have Chris. I didn't have a shot in hell of getting the twins, but then you said both of them. I couldn't remember, I couldn't remember a team, a team that he played for. And now it's a 5-2 lead. Taylor, thank you.

Jeremy, Armando Benitez. Armando Benitez was on the Mets. Armando Benitez was on the Mets. Armando Benitez was on the Mets. Ooh, did I just clinch a victory? Six to two. Somebody has a three point lead with three names left. Add a fourth name, let's go, let's make this interesting. All right, here we go. Chuck Finley.

Chuck Finley. I've only got one name in mind. Yeah, so do I. Maybe there's a second one, but I've got one name in mind. Chuck Finley. Angels. He was not an angel.

He said f*** dude. I would've guessed the same thing. Phillies? Cleveland. Cleveland, okay. And what are our last couple names just for the fun of it? Placido Polanco, Jeremy. Tigers. Phillies. Cardinals. Oh, I don't remember that. Cleveland, okay. And what are our last couple names just for the fun of it? Placido Polanco, Jeremy.

Tigers. Phillies. Cardinals. Oh, I don't remember that. And the last name? Kenny Lofton. I think I know this one. I think it's...

I'll go brave. Chicago. Which one? Cubs. White Sox. Damn! That's not who I have. All right, well, good to know.

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