The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Top 5 Things to Do At a Baseball Game (feat. Jessica Smetana)

Episode Date: June 25, 2025

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An evening with Tim Kirchhen where someone will talk to me about Chase Burns Striking out the first five Yankees that he faced yesterday and will care about it unlike the people in this room None of whom care about any baseball topic Billy. I'd love to have you tonight. Do you care about Chase Burns? I don't know. Yeah, you do me CB big guy big CB guy Okay, can I talk about like I didn't break the fourth wall of something I've been concerned about? You're good. So baseball's leaving ESPN at the end of the year. They're not gonna have baseball anymore.

I've been worried about Tim. Like, are they still gonna cover baseball as often? Because you would assume if they lose the sport, what is the baseball coverage gonna look like at ESPN? He'll be the last one there. I'm not totally informed on this, but I've heard enough of the sporting class with Sampson and Skipper to feel like the Manfred

and baseball don't have much use for how it is that ESPN cares about baseball. And Tim Kerchens, one of the few people still there fighting to care about baseball. Is that not obvious to everyone? That baseball has shrunk to a very small size on ESPN? Yeah, but that doesn't answer. But they still have, but they're good,

I'm worried about it. They have analysts for sports that they don't have rights to. I mean, doesn't it feel like he'll be Barry Melrose all those years before in between the NHL forever Just there for as long as he'd like to bring them out to sports centers when the world's going on I thought that of Peter Gammons Why'd you say that that way because then Peter Peter Gammons was just awful VSP And he left on his own volition. He that's what you always say

Billy would you like to partake in Tim Kirchian night tonight and evening with Tim Kirchian? You're really pressing, huh, for like a commitment here. I'm not really just asking if you'd like to be a part of it. We'll find out at six o'clock together. Yeah, what time, it starts at six? Starts at six. What time is it until?

It doesn't matter. No, no, no, I'm just, I'm telling you, as you know, we were discussing, six is really bad parent time at this age. It's feeding time, bath time, so I can hop on at some point. We'll be on for the other point that yeah, that's what I think I think late later arriving man You better get that parenting on lock like me. I can't dude I was telling Jeremy before I was like, I don't know you're I don't know the age of your children

You have multiple children. I don't know how old they are Teenagers and he's got it on lock. Yeah, I lock. I told Jeremy, once you get to like 10 and eight, you're good. I feel like then you've experienced everything, you're done parenting. Yeah, you definitely can't ruin your kids past that age. Nah, by that point you have it on lock. Uh huh, 10 and eight.

I wanna stop all you guys for a second because I wanna talk to Jessica about a couple of different things, but I also want to tell everybody that Zazlil again has to leave early today because this man right here featured earlier in the show doing this in the streets of Miami will anchor ESPN radio's NBA draft coverage tonight.

Jess's face reaction to that book. Yes, that is Zazzle. You got something to say? Looks like you're shooting a t-shirt cannon. It is. Is that what it is? It is the first time Zazz has ever opened champagne and he was bragging about it,

even though he shook it poorly. Yeah, and can I tell you something? Oklahoma City Thunder players, you can't figure out how to pop open that cork? Idiots. Zazzlow showed you it's the first time he's ever done it, clearly from looking at him, but he will anchor ESPN radio's NBA draft coverage tonight.

I wanted to ask Jessica and the rest of you though before we just skip past the rest of this story involving the Arizona Diamondbacks second baseman Khalil. Oh my god I'm blanking on this game. Marte. I'm sorry yes Marte. You almost made him Khalilware. Yeah that was what was happening. I got confused. Thank you.

Is that home or on the road? He was sobbing during the game and the game was interrupted while a fan heckled him about his late mother who passed in a car accident in 2017. I am reading that the White Sox have banned that fan, but I don't know what ban means. That's not a lifetime ban. And he dies. And I do wonder what the penalty

for something like that should be. I mean, you think the guy was checking the tickets? I'm sorry, Jess. Like mean, you think the guy who's checking the tickets, I'm sorry, Jess, like, do you think the guy, Jess, who's checking the tickets got like a photo of this guy? Hey, keep this guy out. I do think they use like, some stadiums use like facial recognition technology now. They say that.

Or they don't let you buy tickets, I don't know, like they block you from buying the ticket. I don't know exactly how they do the ban, but I do think that one of the punishments when someone does something like this should be that the people in your section get to heckle you out of the stadium like Steve Bartman style. Like I wish that we still lived in a society where if I'm sitting next to a guy and they

say something really shitty to a player, I can like boo in their face and scream at them until they leave. Well, they have that code that you got to text, right? Text 60555. Unruly fans. Yeah, and then they'll, it's kinda like silence. You guys ever send a text? You ever text it?

Never. I did one time when someone in my section was room for the other team, I text so-and-so, room for other team. Really? They kicked the person out? Wait, was this Mike Ryan in the Golden Canes box out of my indie game?

You're allowed, why would you tell on somebody rooting for the other team? To me, that shit was unruly. Yeah. Did they get the person? I don't think they took it seriously. Wow. What should the penalty be though? When she says public shame, okay there's that,

you're allowed to sort of do some 1700 throwing of tomatoes metaphorically that's a good idea is metaphorically as they leave them in their face how long should that penalty be like that if you've made that because we've talked before about the idea that a penalty should be for the action not the reaction but this is in reaction to the second baseman breaking down sobbing. And so if that is what happens because you've crossed the line that thoroughly, what should the penalty actually be for that fan? I'm asking the question seriously.

I mean, I think you have to ask that person, list all your dead relatives, you give it to the section and they heckle you about your dead relatives. An eye for an eye like Uncle Mike used to say. Did you hear about that Jess? I did. Of course that would be her reaction. She's just a nice person she might just say that if she just hears about a late uncle. I had a dog without an eye. Really?

Fun. Champagne bottle? He did not drink champagne, but he did have some sort of infection, so we had to get his eyeball removed and then they sewed it shut. So he always looked like he was winking. Chris. With dogs it's cute though,

because you can call the dog Cyclops and then people aren't like, wow, you're making fun of a disabled dog. It's like, oh, what a cute name. It wasn't that cute with Uncle Mike. Hold on for a second. We gotta ask this question. You said the dog's name is Eli?

Yeah. Was his name Eli before he lost an eye? Yes, he was a rescue. We didn't name him. I think he might have been named after Eli Manning. What a crazy coincidence that is. Book it Eli. Book it Eli, yeah.

Two eyes didn't work there. Did you just say fun, Chris, when she said the dog had a glass eye? Was fun what you said? I think. Wait, no, the dog did not have a glass eye. Peter Falk had a glass eye, Dan. Really?

Columbo, famously, glass eye. The dog just didn't have an eye. There is something endearing and I would say fun. You see a dog with a little deformity, it's like, oh, that's so adorable. Yeah. What? That was a really cute one, sweetheart. You see a dog hopping with three legs?

I'm like, that is adorable. Yeah, you call it tripod. That is so adorable. A dog with two legs, you call it wheels. I'm not trying to get one of those dogs. Yeah. Would you return it? They love you just the same as dogs

with two eyes and four legs. Yes. Did you say, would I return it? Yeah, like if you adopted a dog and all of a sudden you lost a leg, you go and hang out. Dan seems like he would. Return it? Is it a receipt? I think you're right. I mean, there is a sudden you lost a leg, you go and hang out. Dance seems like he would. Return it? Is it a receipt?

I think you're right. I mean, there is, there's definitely a receipt, right, on like in the first 30 days if it doesn't work out. I don't think that people generally look at the specific deformity of three legs and say, oh, adorable, as opposed to that's a difficult way to go through life. You think adorable is the reaction people have

to three-legged dogs? The noise that Jess made when we brought up Uncle Mike, that's what difficult way to go through life. You think adorable is the reaction people have to three-legged dogs? The noise that Jess made when we brought up Uncle Mike, that's what I do. Yeah, I agree. Two legs, two legs, now I'm thinking about how difficult it might be. But three legs, that's pretty cute. No, two legs, you gotta wheels.

Well, it depends on the two, I suppose. Also, like, guys, we gotta stop making light of this. Front wheel drive? Front wheel drive. This isn't funny, we gotta stop making light of this situation. Front wheel drive? Front wheel drive. This isn't funny. These are things that happen to Peter Falkloss's eye at a cancer as a child. Like, I don't know what these jokes are all about.

We're no better than that person that was at the game picking up the tail marty. Thank you, Billy. I believe that Jessica's sound wasn't just because Uncle Mike had a glass eye. I believe that awe was also because he couldn't find one that was the color of the other eye. No, the awe was because you were all making fun

of Uncle Mike and now I feel bad because he, God rest his soul, is being talked about and made fun of on a radio show years after passing. Shout out to Uncle Mike. Now really crazy, devil prays his soul. Coincidence here is that my dad is named Eli and he also almost lost his eye when he was in the ninth grade at Miami Beach High School.

Someone threw, there was a substitute teacher and someone threw one of the, you know, like the dry eraser, the chalkboard eraser. Someone threw it across the classroom and it literally flew all the way and hit him in the corner of the eye and he had to go get surgery immediately terror i think's terrible reaction time to get awful right he just didn't even

know was coming in all the sudden there was i wanted to talk to pablo about this and i failed but uh... the mayor of new york thing was a little bit surprising in that qualmo uh... has the family name that he is now disgraced and fallomo had all of the fundraising advantages, the incumbent advantages, every advantage you can have and got swamped, got totally crushed and I don't know if people saw that coming, but did you see it coming, Jessica?

No, because as recently as like a week ago, I think Cuomo was still polling ahead of the second place candidate. This is just for the Democratic primary, which was yesterday in New York City. The election is in November, but normally the Democratic primary winner wins the election because New York tends to vote Democrat for mayor. But Eric Adams is obviously still in office and decided he's going to run as an independent

now after he was indicted. So the race was sort of wide open on the Democratic side. And yes, Zoran Mamdani, who is an assemblyman, sort of came from behind in this race. He was pulling really low at the beginning of the year. And then turns out if you run a campaign based on a vision for the future of New York and getting young people mobilized about a city that they may actually wanna live in versus fear-mongering and just sort of presenting the same tired ideas of the New York City that Cuomo was running to lead,

then yeah, I guess people get mobilized and they wanna vote for the young, hot, exciting candidate. Cuomo had all the institutional endorsements, he had the polling lead, and to get swamped. Heomo had all the institutional endorsements. He had the polling lead and to get swamped. He also had a bunch of scandals. Yes, I mean, and it should be disqualifying. I mean, I read a really great op-ed in The Guardian about how Cuomo is just basically the democratic version

of Donald Trump running for mayor amid sexual harassment scandals. He resigned in disgrace. He lied about nursing home numbers during COVID and the death toll, and that he didn't apologize for any of this during his campaign. He was just like, yeah, I'm gonna be the mayor.

And he saw a real opportunity to get back in the fold in New York City politics, in New York politics. Obviously comes from a long family of politicians. His dad was the governor of New York for decades. So yes, it absolutely should be something that is disqualifying. And so I think the lesson, what the lesson should be, I guess, and again, I'm not like a political expert.

I'm just like a person who is following this. I'm a sports idiot with a phone. You live in New York, your qualifications are, you live in New York and you're coming to it, broadcasting live from New York. And I want New York to be a affordable place to live. That's my qualification. The takeaway should be that if you want an alternative to Donald Trump as a Democrat,

then don't just find a cheap Democratic version of him. Maybe find someone that people are excited about voting for. So yeah, when the establishment was all back in Cuomo, it seemed like it would be tough to overcome that, but people were really excited to vote for someone new. And so, yeah, Mom Donnie won the primary and Cuomo succeeded or appears to have won the primary. It's ranked choice, so there's still counting votes, obviously, but Cuomo conceded at 10 o'clock on Tuesday night while I was watching the Fever Storm game but does the you you brought up the most important point which is he didn't

concede isn't man you got it while you really read a great campaign is a i'll be a democrat anyway is basically how he conceded he might still run as an independent he's he's sort of left the door open and it's very but again like that should be the kind of thing where democrats one of claim like you have the moral superiority and high ground compared to what the Republicans have been doing in elections for the last decade,

then I don't know, find a candidate who actually has ideas and not just someone who runs on power and represents power. Mamdani's ideas are like free buses and like rent freeze on, you know, rent stable apartments, things like that. And it's like, well, I was even going to be able to do that. I don't know, but at least he has an idea. At least like his ideas sound like things that would help everyday people. So yeah, I mean, maybe he's not going to be able

to do any of that, but I think it's at least something that people that live in New York city are like, oh, that would be great if I, you know, had a free bus ride instead of having to pay for it. We're going to get to Jessica's top five things to do at a baseball game in a second. But Zazzle's got to go, because again, this is anchoring today's ESPN radio draft coverage for the next few hours.

Very serious coverage, right, Zazzle? We're doing it. It's not just going to be Cooper Flagg. What about this would tell you it's not serious and confident? OK, ESPN radio. Go ahead. would tell you it's not serious and confident? Okay, ESPN radio, go ahead. I know you have to go. Looking good. Thanks, Jess. You're looking very confident as well.

Look at Jeremy, big smile on his face. Look how happy he is that I guess... I just love him. Zaslow's leaving and there's more room to talk. Oh, the wedding singer. I can't even be excited. Jeremy, we'll be partaking in the 6 p.m. coverage that Billy May or May not partake in this evening.

Yeah, you're gonna hear all about the recently acquired Colby Martin, a former Division III second baseman, was an All-American. A board or something. And now is a Marlins pitching prospect. Traded for today. I likely will not be joining.

Do we wanna play friend or coworker with Jess before we get to her top five things to do at a baseball game? Because who's hosting this game? I want to get back to it. Who's the game show host on friend or coworker Pablo Torre? Who the fuck is the? What? It's you.

OK. Hello. Hey, Billy. Hello, Billy. The host. Welcome to another edition of Friend or Coworker. Now, this is a special celebrity edition of Friend or Coworker. In the past, as you all know, this game is reserved for Greg Cody.

Does Greg Cody consider someone a friend or a coworker? But now, on the celebrity edition, we're gonna bring in Jessica! Yay! Welcome, celebrity Jessica. Woo! Oh my god, I wanna play this game! You can check out Jessica on Vice sometimes. Oh yeah, Vice TV.

Yeah, I don't have all the details on me. Your TV show. So, I just thought. Watch your back, Amin. Watch your back, Amin. The guest is threatening you. So, all right, Chris and Dan are the participants as usual, but this again is a celebrity edition.

So, does Jessica consider Pablo a friend or a coworker? Now Dan, you have to say friend or coworker, and then Chris says friend or coworker, and then I get an answer from Jessica. Does she consider Pablo a friend or coworker? Okay, thank you. And so far we've all had ties in this game so far, nothing but ties have emerged.

The history of this game, we've had two games and both times have ended in a tie, oddly. Before we ask Jessica though, did we not want to go around the room at what you guys consider Pablo a friend or a co-worker? That's not the game we're playing. We could have done that, but that's a different game. Okay, that's a different game.

That's called Around the Room. I'm gonna done that, but that's a different game. Okay, that's a different game. That's called Around the Roof. I'm gonna say that Jessica thinks of Pablo as a friend. I'm gonna say coworker. Whoa. This isn't gonna be a tie, man. I think she hates Pablo. Whoa, this is not gonna be a tie. Now you're making it a thing.

You don't think she hates Pablo. She doesn't hate Pablo. She's put her in a corner here. It doesn't have to be hating. Also, there's not a third option. It can just be a coworker. You can hate your friend, too. Now, quickly, before we go on, Amin, would you like to describe to the audience who have

just joined us what you would consider a friend and what you would consider a coworker? A coworker is someone that I interact with only within the confines of work. A friend is someone that I would actually hang out with without needing a work pretense. But that is why I thought that Greg Cody thought of Roy as a coworker, because I thought he was being polite when he called him a friend, because he wouldn't hang out with him anywhere but at work. No, that's the past. See, now is there a thing of, I haven't done it yet,

but I would. No, but you wouldn't. Your father would not hang out with Roy. No, he did. He would not go somewhere to just hang out and have lunch with Roy. Yes, he would, if Roy wanted. The question should have been,

does Roy consider him a friend or coworker? Well Roy went on a boat for Greg, but also it was an open bar. So open bar is kind of disqualifying sometimes. Was it a free lunch? It was a free meal. Is it a buffet? It was a buffet, yeah.

No, I'm just saying, he's saying he'd never go to lunch with us. Is it a free lunch? I mean, just out of curiosity, would you consider Pablo a friend or coworker? Well, I'm not playing. I'm not a contestant. OK, good.

Very good. All right, so Jessica. We ran out of music. On this edition of Celebrity Friend or Coworker, do you consider Pablo, Tori, a friend or coworker? Friend. Liar. Question mark.

I'm not sure. Everyone's afraid to play this game. We just need David Sampson. Foe worker. He's the only mark. I'm not sure. Everyone's afraid to play this game. We just need David Samson. Foe worker. He's the only one that can play this game. Foe worker. Foe worker is good. Foe worker is good middle ground.

David Samson can play this game because he has no friends. Yes. Right, they're all co-workers. Every one of them. And David Samson being friends with Pablo puts Pablo more in the co-worker category, for me I think. Wow. For David Samson being friends with Pablo puts Pablo more in the coworker category for me, I think.

Wow. For David Samson, it would be called coworker employee. And that'll do it for another edition of Friend or Coworker. We get to the top five things to do at a baseball game with Jess. And tonight, you can watch all of them with us, with Tim Kirchian.

An evening with Tim Kirchian begins 6 p.m. tonight on YouTube with you. Jess, you wanna stop by? Which of his friends and coworkers we have stopped by. Jessica, you're invited, everyone's invited. Maybe I will. Enough of this big dumper guy, by the way. I'm sick of him.

Aw, you rocks. Do we have any O-L-I, or is it just going straight to the top five? O-L-I. Take a picture with your co-worker and his girlfriend that people online will think is evidence that you're dating him. That's something to do?

It is something that may have happened at the Cubs game on Friday with Taylor. Number five. Sounds like a cover up. Best things to do at a baseball game. Five, watch baseball. Really, I did not think that would crack the top five. Five, watch baseball. Really, I did not think that would crack the top five. Should have been lower.

Number four. Do a lap around the concourse looking for food, make it back to your seat empty handed, do it again in inning later, having settled on whichever option had the shortest line. Always. Now, is there not such a thing as great baseball ballpark

food anymore? Are you guys saying that you can't find good food at the ballpark? It's not about not finding good food. It's about which line is the shortest. Exactly. It's about you wander around, and you're like, do I want nachos?

Do I want a hot dog? Do I want Italian beef? Do I want, I don't know what I want. I'm going to go back to my seat. And then you get up again, and you're like, screw it. I'm just going to get this one, because there's up again and you're like, screw it, I'm just gonna get this one because there's no one in line. That's what it's about.

Not a problem at the Marlins. We had Flanigans at the Marlins games the other day. And there's no lines because no one's there, Jeremy. Gator dogs. I thought though that if you're choosing to go to the ballpark and the ballpark food experience is good, no line would suggest, I don't want to be eating that food, there's good food,

that's the reason there are lines for it. It's the worst ballpark food you're saying is worth eating, even if you're there for part of the culinary experience. I mean, I don't know if anyone that goes to Cubs games is there for the culinary experience. You for sure don't say it that way, if you are. You say, I want a hot dog. That's a popcorn.

Hello, I'm here for the culinary experience. Here's my ticket. I believe, and I may have this wrong, but I don't think I'm among baseball fans. Now, Wrigley Field, maybe it's been modernized. It did not have good food. I'm going to say half the ballparks in America, people are there, at least in part, because the food's really good.

It's not okay, it's really good. Wait a second, time out. Half the people? Are going to baseball games. Hey, where you going? Baseball game, who's playing? Don't know, just go for the Cone of the Sands. I'm saying half the ballparks,

I'm guessing the 10 to 14 of the ballparks are ballparks that people enjoy eating there. I'm gonna say San Francisco's one of them. I think you have this wrong. I think it's not that they're there to eat at them. I think it's like, this is a special treat that I associate with being at the ball game Like I'm not going to the game to get a big hot dog But like when I'm there, I am also entertained by the big hot dog

Like 50% of the people at Marlins games didn't have the conversation before so prime 112 or a centerfield Marlin concession stand tonight Marlins is acession stand tonight Marlins is a bad example they've gone cheap on food the Marlins have gone cheap on food I know what he's talking about I've been the Oracle where the where the Giants play they do have great food for a ballpark what I'm saying to you is there is not a soul in that park who's there for the food they're there for the game and now that they're game let's have some good food. They're there for the game, and now that they're a game, let's have some good food, but they're not there for the food. They could've just gone to a restaurant. Number three.

Number three. Start filling out a scorecard and then give up by the third inning. You guys do that? Really? They still have that in the program? That option? Number two.

Number two. Sing Take Me Out to the Ball Game. You guys singers? Do you guys sing it? Then I will. What do you think? Root, root, root, root, root, root, root, root, root, root. And then you scream, Cobby!

Wrigley Field does it better than most. I'd say better than all. Number one. I would also say that. The number one thing to do at a baseball game, get a buzz on, go to the team store. Oh my god. ["Take Me Out to the Ball god. The time of your life.

Saw that on her Instagram story. Everything looks cute when you're a little buzzed at the Cubs game. Jessica, thank you. Is that Taylor? Why are people so weird about that? Put it on the poll. Nice cover up.

At LeBittard Show, put it on the poll. Do you like to get buzzed at the merch store? Also noticed, you called Taylor a coworker, not a friend. True. Once again, trying to throw you off the scent. David Sampson, friend or coworker? Thank you, Jessica. I thought we were done playing that game.

Foe worker, ladies and gentlemen. No, she just labeled him a foe. Just foe. That concludes Fock. Fock. Bye. You. F.O.K. You, David Sampson, is what it feels like that game has become. I mean, before we get to Oddball

and the serious draft coverage that you and Izzy are about to provide, what is funny about the draft tonight? What's funny is Ace Bailey. What he's doing, I don't know what he's doing, but I kind of feel like it's genius, whatever it is. He went from the number three pick to like, who knows where he's doing. I don't know what he's doing, but I kind of feel like it's genius. Whatever it is. He went from the number three pick to like who knows where he's going to go now. Like you can't draft him. He didn't work out for anybody. What do we do?

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Hey guys, NBA draft is today, right? Are you interested? You excited for that, Izzy? For the NBA draft? You know when I get excited for a NBA draft? On NBA draft is today, right? Are you interested? You excited for that? Is he an NBA draft? You know when I get excited for a NBA draft? On NBA draft day. Oh, well today's NBA draft day! So yes, I'm excited.

Get excited. And you know, Sean Charani went on Pat McAfee's show almost a month ago, and he predicted that this is going to be the craziest offseason ever. The team executives have been anticipating this and everybody's so excited. Now, obviously a lot has happened since May 27th, is he? We have a new champion, our runner up, they lost their key contributor. And there have been a couple of big deals that have happened, right,

with Kevin Durant and Desmond Bain and the off season. And Pat Connison picked up his option. Let's not forget that one. Right. So is he, what we decided to do is that the producers have devised this grid. It's a draft grid, right? Or it's a gradient to preview which teams are going to be the big players tonight. So well, left to right on the X axis, we have inactive meaning they're just gonna take their pick and use it and that's it

Versus very active in hey wheeling and dealing and then on the y-axis we have care a lot like oh, yeah Like this is gonna be something that makes people start talking to Nobody gives a shit don't care all the way at the bottom. So I'm in. Well, let's see. We'll see. We're good. Let's see what teams have for us. So first up, we have the Dallas Mavericks. They have the number one overall pick. It's L reports that it's going to be Cooper flag. Is that I mean, to me, that means they're inactive, right?

Like they're just. Yeah. This is the whole difficulty with the Dallas Mavericks is what do they believe? Like, where do they believe they are in their pursuit of a championship? Are they on a big pause because of the Kyrie Irving injury? Are they saying, Hey, we are just getting started and we're going to hit the track running because we've got Anthony Davis, a defensive player potentially of the year. We've got another potential number one overall pick and Cooper flag.

And we've got Kyrie coming back. If they are thinking that they want to win right now still, I think there might be some thought of activity. Like they might, oh, other way, sorry. They might be want to go to the active route, right? Yeah, active. Yeah, I'm with you. I agree. I think, but look, one of the names that have been attached to them because of the Kyrie Injury is Chris Paul Chris Paul who's probably gonna be the odd man out in San Antonio now that when Wemby comes back healthy You got De'Aaron Fox. I mean kind of don't need Chris Paul anymore Meanwhile Dallas is like yeah, we could use a guy like that for maybe the whole season Maybe just most of the season depending on when Kyrie Irving returns

So if I'm the Dallas Mavericks, I'm going to be active. It may not be around my pick. The pick is still going to be Cooper Flagg, but yeah, right around there is good. Okay. So I like that active, just not around the pick. So you can still somehow by having a fill stop gap in Chris Paul, still sort of nurture the young Cooper Flagg and let him be a part of what could be a championship run start right off the bat. Yeah. I think, I think this is a case where he's an understudy. They, they're going to try and compete for a championship and he's around to learn good habits from good vets. And then one day kids, kid,

the keys are yours. This whole kingdom is yours, but not quite yet. Uh, and, you know, there's another conversation for another day of, is that the best way to develop someone? But the question is now for us, is he, do we care a lot or do we not care at all? I think because they have a number one pick, we automatically care because if they move it, we want to know, Hey, where the heck is that pick moving? If they do know, but we also feel like, Hey, wait a second, how crazy is Nico Harrison after all?

They're not moving it. No. Okay. Well, I don't care that much to touch the ceiling there because I don't think a Cooper flag is going to make that big of a difference, even if Kyrie Irving does come back at some point, whatever January, February of next year. And honestly, there's just question marks in terms of what type of player he will be in the league. You've heard like Scottie Pippen comparisons.

Like, I think a lot of times with the one in Dunn, you don't see the whole bag. You don't see the entire resume played out in that first year. So we still need to see how he looks. He could like when he played for Team USA, everybody thought he was great. He was like the most talked about player there. So he could be even better than we think. So maybe they do have championship aspirations if he turns out to be, you know, a 20 point a game rookie.

Yeah, I like them right there, right? Where we got it right in that mid point. I think we care because the Mavericks, because we're going to care anyway, because of the Luca trade is always going to be a spotlight on him. What are y'all up to since, since you traded your franchise player? So we're going to always care. All right. I mentioned the Spurs and Chris Paul perhaps leaving. Let's talk about the Spurs is he, they have the second pick and the 14th pick.

There's two lottery picks. They're going to make picks at both spots, you think? That would be, see this one, like they could just fill out the roster. They could talk or look at it like an OKC situation and say, hey, we know we're building around Victor. We've got another All-Star there and Foxy and we can just load up and take both of these draft picks and see what happens. But I think there's enough intrigue around this team to where they can look around and say, hey, what type of veteran can we get here?

Obviously, it's not going to be Kevin Durant anymore. But who can we get here to maybe speed this timeline up a little bit? Because obviously with Victor Wenbinyam, you've got all the time in the world. But with Darren Fox, maybe not. Also with Victor Wenbinyam, you're a little scared because he's got the blood clot in his shoulder. So I think they're probably going to be looking for somebody else in that front court who can carry them if they have to miss some time with Vic.

Yeah. I mean, look, first of all, I hope the blood clot issue is cleared up and he's fine and ready to go. And, and that's just a thing of the past. Darren Fox is in the last year of his deal. And that's just a thing of the past. De'Aaron Fox is in the last year of his deal. So, you know, there is a version of urgency to figure something out here. Maybe it's a replacement.

Maybe it's something that pushes him forward. Maybe he's going to sign an extension this summer. And all of this is rendered moot. Stephon Castle, obviously he had a great year, a rookie of the year. You got Jeremy Sohan, who is in a great year, a rookie of the year. You got Jeremy Sohan, who is in the last year of his deal. You've got Devin Vassell, who's long term sign and Kelvin Johnson, who's got two more years on his deal. So that's pretty much your core right there.

If you're the San Antonio Spurs, I kind of feel like this is one of those ones they can get a young vet. They'll make a move. Right. But it's kind of like you still kind of in the accumulation. So I'm saying less active, less active. Let's go. Yeah. Maybe towards the next and active a little bit more.

OK. Yeah. I do care a lot, though. Anything with Victor Wimben, Yama makes it interesting. I don't care. OK. You care less than the Mavs. Yeah, I care. Definitely less than the Mavs because it's a young team. And it's like there team and it's like, there still is the birth for, oh, we won 40 games.

That's a massive success for us. And you know what? You're right. Bring it down right just under the the care. Don't care the X axis, because if they would have gotten Kevin Durant, I'm like, I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued. Now I'm just like, all right, let's see what they can do. Not super interested. I like where we have them. All right. Next up we have the Philadelphia 76ers, everyone's favorite punching bag. The sixers have the third pick of the draft. Are they going to

stay? Are they going to go? Let's start with the caring. I think I care a lot. I think I'm moving all the way to the top. More than average for sure. I would go close to the top. You're moving the wrong way, Chance. Up, up, up. There you go. Reason being, I mean, reason being because it's such a show. How can you not care? How can you not care? Think about the season they had and they had an awful season.

We cared, though. We care that the all that pick is going Oklahoma City unless it's like there are the real housewives. They're the reality show. Everybody can't help but keep their eyes on what's going to happen to Joel and bead. What's going to happen to Paul George? All of these questions are going to keep swirling and swirling and swirling. Paul George will keep podcasting through it. Bless his heart.

Like the third pick, do they use it to the chair? I don't know. I don't, but I know I care. There's also this interesting, like Ace Bailey is one of the strangest draft prospects in a while, like won't work out for the Sixers. It seems to be like very specific about where he would want to go. I don't know about you. I mean, I would love to go to a team that's ready made for a championship if everybody

stays healthy. Well, no, but see, I wouldn't if I was ace Bailey, because my thing is, yeah, my thing is I want to go and play and shoot a million times and, and have freedom to be one of the best players on my team. I don't want to go somewhere where it's like, oh, I made a mistake. Sit down more specific. I think any franchise or any player coming into a draft would want to go to a franchise that they trust, that they know will take care of them.

And whether or not they're in a championship mode. Wow. I just talked myself out of the 76. Is that what people really think about the 76ers? Cause I thought it was just Joel Embiid's fault. Or is the organization supposed to be strong enough where you should be able to, I don't know, control a player who doesn't really seem to take things as seriously.

Look, it was a while ago, but Roy Hibbert was on a podcast and he was talking about coaching and why he hated it. It was the worst year of his basketball life working as a coach and he was working for the Sixers and he was talking about, he never mentioned any specific names, but he said, you couldn't hold anybody accountable. We start practice and a big time player would not be at practice and we're like,

where is he? No one knew. And then he would show up late and he's like, yeah, I don't feel like practicing today. And he said it no one held anyone accountable? And so again, that was a different regime and it was a while ago, but some of the things. They should be active is what you're saying. Like dangle that number three pick out there. Um, because if I want ace Bailey, ace Bailey doesn't want to come here. I'm not going to deal with that. I'll just go get a vet. Darrell Moore is always, always when you're wondering,

he's on the side of activity, put him right there. There you go. That's good for me for the Sixers. Next one up, what do we got Izzy? This one's super interesting to me. It's the Oklahoma City Thunder. I don't know if you heard, they won the championship this week and they have the 15th and the 24th picks

because of course they have all the draft picks and they have 11 firsts overall in the next five years. Okay, so a championship team, a team that's done it with a very flexible salary situation because they have a bunch of young players. Do they keep collecting players and just, Hey, just add them to the back of the train and keep going. Or do they sort of collect and try to improve upon this team and really sort of take that next gear and create championship. I would say almost like dynasty rather, I would say almost like the Kevin Durant trade, right?

Turn the warriors from a championship team to, you know, dynasty over a handful of years. Right. Do the thunder try to package this and maybe a Chet Holmgren and say, hey, Yanis, come on over here, make us a dynasty or anybody else out there, even a Joel, somebody else to sort of upgrade

in a way that nobody saw coming. You know what? I don't see that happening. And the reason I don't see that happening is they've got a great kind of cascading salary situation where they've got a bunch of people who are under contract. So Alex Crusoe is under contract long-term. She goes to Alexander, Aaron Wiggins, like Isaiah Joe. They've got those guys under contract. You got to give an extension to Jalen Williams soon. And you got to give an extension to Hongren soon.

And by the way, Lou Dort also has only, I guess, two years left, but he's extension eligible as well. So I think this is one of those things where do I use picks to package and get someone with cost certainty, right? Not necessarily like, oh, this massive upgrade to talent, but just a little bit of cost certainty. I don't know. I don't know. If they're inactive, they're down there in the don't care corner.

If they're active, I'm intrigued because they're going to be making a move that nobody expected. I'll tell you right now, unless it's like a massive deal, I think it's still don't care. Anything short of the artists.