The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Toy Story Game

Episode Date: September 28, 2023

After discussing the Ohio State vs. Notre Dame game, the crew explain the joy you can get from watching your friends' sports teams suffer. Then, are you rooting for calamities during the Toy Story Game this weekend? And will your school get desperate enough for Urban Meyer? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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and electrifying life every day. See how at opg.com. This is the Don Labato Show with the StugatSpotCas! You may have noticed that suspiciously, after Notre Dame lost in a fashion that was embarrassing and dramatic and Ryan Day at the end of it decided to go after an 86 year old man for possibly not questioning or sort of questioning, maybe not actually questioning the grit of Ohio State and you cannot question a football team's grit without offending the leader of triumph, Ryan Day. And he got very emotional afterward. But the game was

embarrassing because of how it ended for Mike Ryan who enjoyed the echoes of seeing Al Golden without a tie being the defensive coordinator in a couple of times sending out 10 men on the field when they could have used about 10 more than that on in the situation after time outs, the incompetence, look at the smile on Mike's face now. They would have gotten a penalty for that. 28. Yeah, like three inches.

That was a weirdest part about all of that, is Marcus, like Notre Dame had been good all game in short yardage situation, stuffing them. And Marcus Freeman recognized, hey, we have one viewer guy on the line, but we don't want to surrender a half yard to them. So we're gonna have them just have an easy path on the line, but we don't want to surrender a half yard to them. So we're going to have them just have an easy path to the end zone.

It was a weird miscalculation. If you could do it over again, I guarantee just rush somebody out there. Yep, I mean, I don't really think there's a good excuse for it. I think he tried to explain his thought process after the game, but I think he knows what a horrendous mistake that was. I mean, he, him as the

head coach, whoever is in charge of putting personnel on the field after, after the time out. I mean, he absolutely is not off the hook for that. Everyone gets blame on that coaching staff because that you, you can't do that at the end of a game. Can we blame Golden most though? You, you can blame out Golden. I thought actually like most of the game can we blame golden most though you you can blame out golden i thought actually like most of the game noted in defense played really well they gave up one big chunk play that run uh... Ohio states running back so good he that mean that's about as well as

you can play Harrison to the year Harrison junior was barely a factor in the game i mean brendum or is he's heard right he's been you got hurt in that game and you know what hurt he got hurt. Like he got hurt and he came back. But before he got hurt, he was shut down. He was completely shut down. I'm saying he doesn't look at the first round pit. He doesn't look the same as he looked last year when he was faster than everybody was playing again. Well, I think the the difference is that C. J. Stroud isn't his quarterback right now. And Kyle McCord coming to the game for Ohio State. Like they had a tough time in their first two games, getting the offense going. So this was their biggest test.

Was are they going to be able to score points against Notre Dame's defense? And they really weren't for most of the game. And I think that's where Notre Dame's offensive game plan, which felt very conservative to me. Why? Kind of backfire, because I think if you call a conservative game plan and you keep it close, you risk losing it close. Why don did they have that game plan, Jess, because they got Sam Hartman, which is a gem of a transfer portal landing and he came in highly touted. He's one games with his arms and not playing conservative offenses and they decided to make him a game manager there. He's been very good for them all season long.

It was just bizarre. I thought that it was definitely, I'm my biggest takeaway from the game. And it came down to the last play. And I think the last play gets all of the criticism because of how they mismanaged personnel. But the last drive, but I think the first half, I think the first half of the game when Notre Dame was not able to score after having two drives that ended up in Ohio State territory. The first one, they went for it on fourth down, they called it a first down and then they reviewed it and overturned it. Fine. Okay, that happens.

The second one, they miss a long field goal. You can't leave points on the board when you're playing against Ohio State. You have to score. It could have been 10 to 3 going into half. Instead, it was 0 to 3. And I thought that was really disappointing. They had all the opportunities, and I think the post game win expectancy

was like 60 something percent in favor of Notre Dame. They were the better passing team, they were the better running team, they were the more efficient team, but they played it close and they lost close, they weren't able to contain on Ohio State's final drive. They weren't able to get a first down when they had the ball with four and a half minutes to go,

and they just needed to two clock and get another first down and put the game on ice. And the last two drives, both Notre Dame's drive and Ohio State's drive, were everything went wrong if you're a Notre Dame fan, but everything went right if you're a Ohio State fan. Ohio State put tons of pressure on Notre Dame's offense. They were able to get the ball back. And then Kyle McCord, a quarterback who's never played in a game like this before, was

able to effectively manage ball back and then Kyle McCord a quarterback who's never played in a game like this before was able to effectively manage A comeback drive and I think he should get tons of credit for that But Notre Dame also like they blew it and I think they are feeling that every I saw Players coaches all it completely Devastated by this because this was their game. They have two just they have look at this image They have two guys all. They have two guys on one side. They have 10 guys and they decided to do what Golden did

against Georgia Tech and the triple option goal line where they're behind the goal line. They're just conceding this touch. What is this? They blew it. I am telling you right now. There's a indefensible play calling. I think the third in 19, I mean, I, that was the game.

I'm happy that we're getting to like a meeting potatoes college football segment on Thursday to recap in the previous one because there's a lot of stuff that made me laugh over the college football weekend that we haven't been able to do. Promos during the NFL games that still refer to USC Colorado as the biggest game of the year after Colorado lost by 35 plus points. That was funny. Lane Kiffin calling out Alabama saying, oh, no, they're defensive coordinator. They've replaced him. There's a different guy calling plays and then laying an absolute egg on the road.

Once again, losing to Nick Saban, another observation that I have for the college football weekend was, do you think Mario your crystal knew it was his birthday he's a crazy person there's no way he doesn't have time for joy and candles and anything a non-football related joy of any kind I know how he spent his birthday he hopped on a bird and recruit a paper he recruited cross country a guy's a maniac about this.

It all comes back to crystal ball with Mike, the thing that I wanted to examine with the group as it relates to college football and just the pain and misery that others get to enjoy when your team loses and there's a suffering. Earlier in the show, we were talking about how many people have gathered here the last couple of days because they're enjoying our show being loud, wrong, and being able to laugh at our show.

The question I wanted to ask you, because Mike went to sleep on Saturday, true hater, hugely happy because Deon Sanders lost, but also because all of the teams in the shipping container lost. UCF, Lucy was sad. UCF's first conference game too in the big 12.

Oof. Can we talk about that? Prove it in the form. Prove it in the form. That's what I would say. So embarrassing. I don't have, I actually, I enjoy how funny Iowa is.

I enjoy like, I root for Iowa to do what they just did. And I'm sorry that that also equals your suffering, but it's come on. I don't think you're sorry. He scored zero points. My point, my point, I'm right back in it was asked. I'm wondering when Jessica loses like that, because

losing a close game is one thing. And if you're going to be the person who enjoys the suffering of one of your friends because we get to laugh at our friends being in pain because we all know it sports and it hurts and we laugh. What's the worst of those pains? Is it not just losing a close game, but losing a close game when people can just point out, what are you doing? There are only 10 guys on the field after a time out. How do you lose that way? Like, which is the best of those feelings

enjoying your friends' misery? When we were driving back from Penn State, which we left early because it was so bad, we watched the Notre Dame game on my phone, and my dad looks me, goes, at least you're not just right now. Like, you're not just, because Iowa hasn't played in a big game. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh That's I I understand where we are. It's let pin state have 97 place. I was 33. I was rooting hard for

ILO over the weekend because if I had Al golden and many Diaz fail in the same weekend It would have been the only way it could have gotten better Which is the worst pain though like if I gave you your optimal thing My cuz you went to sleep happy cuz the the reason you were happy is because Dion lost that was the That was I Guarantee you the thing that made me happiest was out golden messing up and it had so it could Outgoed failing It could have been out golden messing up for the Cincinnati Bengals the fact that it was Notre Dame

Yeah, there's an added bonus there because I don't like Notre Dame as a Miami Hurricanes fan But it's really just I don't I love out golden because I'm a Miami Hurricanes fan and to have him suffer that indignity was great. That's fine You laugh at me. I laugh at you We're all equal here laughing at one another in our sports pain. That's fine with my last He was very hard for me. My point is though Are great for me are we all Marshall and I was still laughing at you. Middle Tennessee State as well. Are we? We lost a Stanford at home.

Stanford. And it was still funny to laugh at you. Are we what? Because it's Middle Tennessee State. Thank you for allowing me to speak. Are we? I know what I'm like. Are we equal when it comes to the ball later?

To sports pains because I don't think all the sports pains are equal. I do believe that the joy that people are getting laughing at heat fans today is a greater joy than laughing at Lucy because she got shut out and Iowa was maximum. Iowa, I don't know if it's a greater joy than looking at a team that you don't like if it's Notre Dame, lose incompetently or lose with something that everyone can point to and be like. I would say embarrassingly.

Like it's always a little embarrassing to be a Notre Dame fan. Like, we all wear a little bit of shame on our shoulders. And this is just like given people another reason, just to laugh. Well, this is the one thing that I want to chew on because when it comes to being a hater, logic seemingly goes out the window.

You laugh, like, the Miami Heat miss out on Damian Lillard. Huge victory for Boston Celtics fans. The logic that the Miami Heat eliminated the Boston Celtien Lillard, huge victory for Boston Celtics fans. The logic that the Miami Heat eliminated the Boston Celtics in the Eastern Conference Finals, at that point goes away and you get to revel in the most recent victory, i.e., Lillard not going to the heat. Well, yesterday was a great day to be a Celtic fan and no one applies a logic like, well, they beat us, like, who are we to laugh?

None matter. That's the great thing about being a hater. Is you can laugh at a team losing in the national championship game while you have a five win season and don't have to be called out for being a hypocrite. Well, you get called out and then you say, I don't care, doesn't matter.

I'm still a hater. I still wake up every day. I drink my glass of haterate and I go to work and I laugh at everyone else. And nothing that they say can get under my skin because I am driven up every day. I drink my glass of hate or hate and I go to work and I laugh at everyone else. And nothing that they say can get under my skin because I am driven by my hate. There's always someone else I can laugh at, even while they laugh at me.

I get the best of both worlds because I hate my own team. Very much. Yeah. It doesn't sound like Iwa Hawkeyes offense is the best of any worlds. It doesn't feel like it. It doesn't feel like it.

It doesn't feel like it. It doesn't feel like it. It doesn't feel like it. It doesn't feel like it. It doesn't feel like it. It doesn't sound like Iowa Hawkeyes offense is the best of any worlds. It doesn't feel like it... The people who care about Iowa football only care to laugh at your lack of offense, that seems a specific kind of misery. At Enterprise, we know you're constantly on the move. Getting this? Thanks, Mom.

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Don Lebertard. At the end of our conversation with Alex Smith, and we talked for about 30 minutes, but I feel like nobody is going to remember anything about that conversation other than how you fell flat at the end with your very last word. Listen to how Stugatts here at the end of this interview says goodbye, just exhausted to Alex Smith. That's Stugatts. What happened? Alex?

I'm dead. I'm exhausted. I haven't stopped talking in a month. I mean, I don't know to tell you. VCC down the limit are show with this two-gads. I feel like I'm all over the place today with all my heat takes. And I'm also all over the place with, I don't know how to feel about this toy story game we got coming up this weekend.

It's gonna be fully animated. I'm intrigued. I wanna love this, but it's gonna be fully animated. I'm intrigued. I wanna love this, but it's gotta be glitchy, right? Is there live, is there delay? I'm confused. They're making it seem fully animated, like you said, and it's just going to be the production that is Toy Story. They have player tracking data.

They're gonna animate these players, and you'll get to watch the football game that's happening in London, but in Andy's bedroom with these toy figures actually being the ones that are replacing the Jags and Falcons, I have a feeling it's going to feel a little bit like MLB Game Center did back in the day where you see just an added like a crude animation swinging a bat. So I have a question who's gonna be what right like is the offensive line going to be all the little aliens is it going

to be no there actually all going to be and like would be they've been animated but slight you know they've animated the jacks and pal their all football players yeah they're all they're all trepid or is as long here and it's wearing a helmet what if there's a horrific injury? Toy cards coming Yes, you have to a prayer circle an ambulance. Yes, and potato head has to somberly throw the brakes It's an excellent way to teach kids about football. Here are the words, the commentators are talking about,

should we show the audience this injury you are now? You are a genius because I guarantee you when someone in the pitch meeting at Disney decided, let's have some corporate synergy between ESPN, Disney and the NFL. This is gonna be fun. The Nickelodeon one's really fun. Let's try some corporate synergy between ESPN, Disney, and the NFL. This is gonna be fun. The Nickelodeon one's really fun. Let's try to recreate that.

No one has said someone should have absolutely stood up at the meeting and just did what Chris Cody did. What if someone dies? They're gonna like cut to like just like b-roll of like pre-gay, I don't know. It's good. Say it comes out and cuts the leg off. I see on my television here that Mark Cuban is on first take and I do a sort of word association

when I see him on he said very loudly during a time that Brock Osweiler and limited offense were running the NFL that the NFL would stop at some point growing and being America's most popular game and that the other sports would get to catch up because you don't get to be on top forever. And when you talk about some of these innovations to get new fans, whether it's Taylor Swift or Toy Story, I do wonder to myself how much larger can that sport possibly get than it already is. It's the top in the top 100 most viewed things on television every year. They take like 94 of the spots and then a couple go to the Olympics. You've got the streaming services all fighting for the rights to how can we merely share your product?

We don't need any exclusivity, your running television with your ability even in a day when the numbers go down everywhere because everywhere is split. Football's numbers don't go down and here's Taylor Swift and that's the most watched game of the day. It doesn't even matter if the football's any good.'m asking you guys seriously when does the growth on this stop? When does it even slow? Like what is what is the future look like when? Demar hamlin is almost literally a speed bump to get to the next game where the numbers are and the horrific injury that no one's considering

in this toy story game is about to appall children globally globally because no one's considered the tear backfired. The tear the terrible back to you, Bo Peep. The terrible consequences of of their are you now rooting but for some sort of unseen you can do for you can do this if you're not taking anyone out by name in particular are you rooting for some sort of unpredictable unforeseen calamity to have to be recreated in the toy story game you have to now root for that. Slinky dog has to fill. The army guys come out. Let's go.

I don't have a high ankle spread. Let's get a high ankle spread and see how they handle it. It'll be all the little army guys carrying the person that got hurt off the field. It's such a bummer, urban buyers, not stolen jackals. I would have loved to see toy story. Urban. There has been no harm to the general career of urban Meyer. Correct. He gets to be on television. And I get well, I'm not going to make this face every time I see him though. Yeah, he's like he went back to big noon, but it's really weird, really weird seeing him out there.

And I don't know if he's ever gonna be the commodity in the open market. I imagine he still wants a coach, but it almost feels like those days are over. You think he will, Lucy? Yeah, I absolutely think he will. Someone will get Texas or get, sorry, desperate in Texas. But like, we don't want Sarkin anymore. Bring us urban. urban like that's just how it's going to happen that good of a job

I would think he'd have to start a little crappier than I what fan base recently was a Michigan state Michigan state wants urban Yeah, I think that makes that makes a ton of sense go from Mel Tucker I admire well to hard Antonio and then to urban my there will always be the market for him Like I really don't think it's going to be going. But do you think he'll actually get hired? Like an athletic department will be like, this is a good idea. Well, remember how passionately Nebraska fans

were campaigning for him and didn't end up happening, but now, and that was right after all that stuff happened. So yeah, I think you're right, Dan. I don't think any of this stuff sticks to him. I shouldn't have said that. For sure. I think the part that's not right is I don't i don't i don't think any of the sub-six of them i i i shouldn't have said that though i think the part that's not right is i shouldn't have said he has done no harm because he was the most coveted free agent in coaching and had his choice

you remember having this conversation with jimmy johnson because he told us he uh... counseled urg urbin my or about this had a choice between should I take at a hundred million dollars, the Texas job, or should I take the Jacksonville job? And I've been arguing for a while that I think some of these college jobs are better. Jimmy Johnson says ego is the reason he had to do it professionally. He wanted to prove to himself that he could do it professionally, but what Urban Meyer proved to himself is that he couldn't do it professionally,

made the choice anyway because of ego. But isn't, and I say this, I asked this question to the audience in general, wouldn't you rather have the Texas job than the Jacksonville job? If you're urban, Meyer? No, just anybody. I'm talking.

No, because they're paying NFL coaches less. It is, and Mike Norville, when you had him on earlier this week, referenced this, and I talked about it during the job searches as people are trying to... There's a reason why Miami's former defensive coordinator was hired by Alabama. Alabama doesn't get the big recruits over this last year. They were in the market. People are avoiding college football because of how recruiting NIL, the COVID year screwing everything up,

you have to really sweeten the pot to get these guys from the NFL. They don't look at it as a good life. Texas specifically, oh, excuse me, sorry. $5. I doubt it. You're damn. Yeah, I mean, I love you.

Texas specifically, man. They're welcome, you guys. You went in as Younger and Sparta Dan, you're welcome. Texas specifically is really tough because they have very insane boosters more than most schools. That's a job where expectations are a lot higher, criticisms a lot more. You're having to deal a lot more like bureaucracy. I get choosing Jacksonville over Texas specifically. The reason that I still would look at it despite what you're saying and say,

saying and say, hmm, the Texas job, if I think I'm great at leadership coaching, the Texas job gives me advantages. I would not have any salary cap sport where I can't just bring a bus filled with my own players that I want and I get with a booster base that is as strong as any in the country, right? So you're telling me that the college football job in general has too much mess for people who are control of hallix, which I certainly understand, but among the best of them remains Texas, correct?

Texas, if I said to anybody out there, how are you going to be competitive consistently, they would say just have Texas is everything. Just because it's got this legacy program, it's got the college atmosphere, but also it's in an awesome city. So it combines the prestige of the South and the tradition of college football in the South.

Well, this is actually a place that I can grow my brand. And I have a, it's in a metropolis, like they're so well positioned to dominate the college football landscape. Let me ask you a different way than to you guys. Lincoln Riley when he was available, which job is more attractive to him? USC or Jacksonville? USC. College coaches are control freaks.

That's why college works because you can get away with being a control freak like that. You know, you're dealing with young kids, you're not dealing with grown adults. USC is a better job for college coach. Well, this is why Urban Meyer and Jacksonville did not work out because the way he treated these players who are adults working under contract

was not okay with them. And when all this stuff came out midway through the season about him kicking a player, you, I mean, you should not be able to do that in College Football, but College Football players are not unionized and they have very little recourse against their coaches, but you definitely can't do that stuff in the NFL and it did not work out for him. Even in the College Rangs, Lincoln Riley had an adjustment period to just move into a major media market because he just found out there's not normal, a normal jack. Like, he tried to do that stuff with an L.A. beat rider and it had to be undone after a lengthy conversation where they kind of made the the the B rider fess up to something

in order to get clearance again. But in that market, something that would have stood probably in Oklahoma didn't stand. You guys are talking, though, about two different kinds of absence of control. You're talking about being a head coach that gets to the NFL and grown men who make a lot of money don't want to listen to you because they're grown men and they don't want to be kicked or shouted at or disrespected, but you go to college and now with all of the transfers and the chaos and the rule changes, you also lose control there,

but you have more control over the winning you can do in the margins. I can beat school X by raising more money. I can beat school X by taking 50 of my own transfers that I can't do in the professional sports to build my own team because I'm competing against other teams that have just as much money as I can. You can, but it consumes you.

You have, their balance is not a thing. Minimal integration is the thing. But there is no balance to any of these coaches. They're all totally lopsided, totally lopsided. They're incapable of balance. Dan, you cannot take a moment off now. It is way crazier than it's ever been and it's always been plenty crazy. The market's speaking for itself. No one wants these coordinator jobs. I think they're all 20 hour a day jobs that are obsessive, compulsive, and insane.

You can't be balanced as a professional or a college coach. Just like podcasting. There is no life balance here. Every day I'm coming up with takes. I can imagine having to game plan for the Baltimore Ravens and then also talk to Gardner Minshues mom for two hours. It's different. Jacob's thing is mystery podcasts.

He loves to go to who done it. And when it comes to McDonald's, his thing is finding the exact right moment It's different. think of this thing together? It makes for a delicious mischievous game, even when he gets caught in the act of my Sarah. Quality, it's a McDonald's thing. Shocking. Don Lebertard. Were you guys building out the a-rod bathroom of your imaginations? Is that what I heard you discussing during the break? Towels with an A on them.

You know the thing you slide the toilet paper on, that's a baseball bat. Hey, like that. Stugats. You think he actually calls it the throne? Probably does. It's an actual throne. Yeah, an actual throne.

There's got to be a full length mirror in there somewhere. I imagine somewhere in his house he has a replica of David, but with his head on it. This is the Don Lebertar Show with a head on it. This is the Don Limitars show with this two-gats! I think Tyler Hero is funny, which is a revelation to me, because he's been really funny on social media. I think he was pretty self-aware when he reposted with comment on Jimmy Butler accusing that the league should look into the Damien Liller trade because of Buck's tamper. This is according to Jimmy Butler and he co-signed what he said, which is really funny for a dude that was at the center of all the rumors, but he is continuing his commenting

on social media. My entire hero has been quiet throughout the last few months, as his name's been circulating in rumors, turns out Miami, he weren't actually talking to Portland during the time that this was happening, but he posted an MBA aggregate Twitter account with a comment until next summer. And the meat of the message is Tyler Hero

survives yet another off season until next summer because this is a common theme. There's a funny meme out there of Tyler Hero dresses a grim reaper going through all the doors and there's Russell Westbrook and James Harden and Donovan Mitchell and Kevin Durant twice. He survives all of this, so they very clearly rate him or no one else does. And then the most recent tweet is actually really funny. In all seriousness, as a kid from Milwaukee, I'm grabbing me a Dame Jersey. He seems to be taking from the Jimmy Butler book

of let me on social media find humor in this. Like this thing that everyone's taking super serious, I know that if I tweet about this, everyone's gonna run with this. So he's just, that's at a Jimmy's playbook right there. I wanted to ask you guys something that's adjacent to this because I don't feel like I asked the question well before when I was talking about Bella check and Riley because a lot of this is happening right now.

Understandably, this is from Evan Cidery. He's an NBA substacker and he writes in consecutive off seasons, four superstars had the heat on their short list of preferred destinations. Donovan Mitchell, Kevin Durant, Bradley Beale, and Damien Lillard. For Miami to somehow not land any of them is a failure of epic proportions. It is time to rightly criticize Pat Riley and company and someone writes in right afterward. They were in the finals last year as rebuttal. And I simply want to ask the question, not can we or should we criticize? There's no one in sports or no one anywhere in

fame that gets to be above criticism. But I do want to ask if there is such a thing from anyone listening to this who cares about sports where you're just like, you know what? I really trust what my people that run my team do. And I trust that they are competent enough to regularly be smarter than the other people, even if my team loses or even if I don't get the results that I want. Is there such a thing? Yes. It's with the Miami Heat when they let Max Truce walk and when they let Gabe Vincent

walk, I trust them to develop another one of those. But it's a different conversation when you're targeting superstars. That's how you win in the league. That's been the shortcoming. They've run into superstars that are better in the NBA Finals. That's been the undoing. And while it's a great rebuttal, they made the NBA Finals. It's also an indictment because they failed to improve on the roster. A roster that has come short pretty decisively.

You can say injuries, maybe in the bubble got them, but they were very clearly second best by a wide margin to Denver. But that's enough of the off season in one sport because there's an actual post season. Thank you. Finally, we talking about Tyler here, we're gonna go this place.

We've got the real WNBA playouts going on right now, and they are heating up, bitch, though, we got the MVP WNV8 playouts going on right now and they are heating up a bit Now we got the MVP has been passed out already salute the Sto New York. You feel me Brianna Stewart We salute you my sister for a great performance this season MVP. We we love you. We got the D-Poy Asia Wilson another one. She might should have got the MVP her and Alicia. She got a she got a lot of votes. You feel me? She did enough votes. So if you ask me, you know, snub, yeah, you're the adegs, but salute to them as well. Six woman of the year, six person of the year, Alicia Clark salute to you, ma'am. Vegas aces, Sydney Coulson, I'm running out of breath.

No, you're excited. You know, but you're, hang on, Jude, because I have a question for you. Because before the playoffs started, I asked you off air, do you have the Liberty of the Aces? Because the whole storyline, this entire WMBA season, has been, we have super teams now in the WMBA, and it's going to come down to the Liberty and the Aces in the final. And right now, the Liberty, throughout this season,

I think the season started, the Aces looked like they were the better of the two teams And then I think towards the end of the season it became apparent the Liberty were actually clicking really well And the Aces were not looking as good and now in the playoffs the Aces have been fire Sounds like a two team race. The Liberty have had a little bit of struggles. No, it's actually not because that's that was my question So I asked you do you have the Liberty the Aces and said, you don't think the fight will be liberty aces. You think it is going to be a rematch of last year's son aces? You feel me look Tiffany Hayes had that look in her eyes

other day. She scored 23 points. You feel me? She never asked like that. She's in her 12 season in the WNBA. Might even be 14. Don't fact check me. But she looked amazing the other day.

So if she's going to provide that type of effort along with AT Alyssa Thomas the deep way rebound leader of the year is if she provides that and go along with DeWanda Bronner as well Congratulations to them get married so love is in the air ladies and gentlemen as well as championships because of Tiffany Hayes air back Back Allen if they can get it together and help those sisters out I can see them beating the delivery and going to the WNBA finals for the second straight year in a row.

Hasn't the consensus been though that the Liberty and the Aces are clearly more loaded than everyone else? And it's two teams. I thought that that was from before the season what was supposed to happen. Well, yeah, because Brianna Stewart signed with the Liberty and she's the MVP of the season,

but she's not been shooting super well the last few games. They had a tough series, their first series against the Mystics. It was a two, it's best two out of three. So they won in two games, but the second you went to overtime, it was so close, like incredibly close. I could have seen either team winning that series just based off that game, but she's not been shooting great in the series against Connecticut, but she's been like rebounding, assisting, like doing basically everything else.

So if it comes down to her, I don't know if they're gonna be able to do it. Now, if she starts playing like even a little bit better, I do think they have more talent than the sun and should win. I mean, they are the super team in New York right now. Are you with Juju, though? Can you see the exact same when we fact check Juju on other things?

Look in the eye that Juju cited as his analysis on what it is that he's seeing. A look in the eye that is different than other looks in the eyes. I believe that that is not something. We've never done that test. We've talked about doing that test of showing people different eyes and just their eyes and then asking them, asking the audience, do you see a look in the eye

here? It's very easy when LeBron is scoring 48 to see a look in his eye against Boston because he scored the 48. Yeah, because on top of that, Alissa Thomas got snubbed from the MVP. She almost averaged a triple double this season. That's unheard of in the man's league, other women's league. Well, set up, slew the rest of Wilson and slew the big ol' you feel me? But that's in. Russell Westbrook. Russell Westbrook. Yeah, Russell Westbrook. You don't fact check me. That's emulator. Okay. But yeah, she been doing a phenomenal job. So I feel like that's the extra motivation the Connecticut son can

use to get past this test because they won game one without this motivation This delivery was lucky to get game two you feel me and I will be in attendance to game three tomorrow night and Connecticut You feel me look for me. We gonna be out there representing because Tiffany Hayes if she keep that looking her eyes Connecticut, baby, dude. Would you say Natasha cloud had that look in her eyes when they played against liberty? Absolutely she got I know exactly what jiu jiu's talking about. They left Natasha Cloud off the all-defense and first team and the second team. She is miles ahead of, oh my goodness. Look, WMBA get it together on Y'all voting.

Get it together also. You shouldn't start the WMBA playoffs at one o'clock on Sunday when the NFL is playing. We try to get viewers. Come on, Y'all. Do yourselves a favor and do yourselves a favor. Yeah. I do think that didn do yourselves a favor. Yeah. I do think that it didn't the finals game last year.

It went head to head with the NFL. And I think it outrated the season before. But I don't remember exactly the ratings. Right. It is very more respect than it gets. But they are playing both games are Friday night, right? Yeah, it's Friday night. You can give me.

You can give me. Yeah, it's Friday night. So watch that instead of Louis Valenci stay. You cannot counter program against the NFL. One of my favorite things to do. I'm embarrassed. I'm ashamed to admit this in front of people. I will tune away from NFL network television,

just to see what the paid for infomercial crap is that other networks are putting on when they know no one is watching because everybody is watching the NFL. You get psychics, you get people selling you vacuum cleaner materials like it is a graveyard of sad television personalities doing very poor television with the knowledge on their face and I can see the look in there

I I've done the incorrect things with my life That make me be counter programming to NFL football. I have no answers for Romo and Nance Look what I'm showing people that I could take this off the carpet with my magical machine that they could get without Watching this infomercial just by checking out Amazon. You can't go against the NFL. Everybody knows not to program. And here's the thing, there is very clearly the enthusiasm that you hear in Judeo's voice. He's feeling the energy and the electricity of this crowds from great seats because there is in these crowds an electricity of stakes

that matter that show you that they have become a sport that has value and the television streaming ages when everyone wants sports. This is, you can make an argument that this is all new audience because they've been following so many of these people have been spotted. They've watched the sport grow from nothing into something that when you're watching it now, Judeo, when you're in Atlanta with Renee, the energy of the crowds around those games is crazy.

Yes, sir. And especially in New York right now, the Liberty had a better crowd than the nets in that gym The aces have better crowds than the sons and they play off arenas and the Raiders My friends is phenomenal and these little girls growing up They would love it would be amazing for them to have examples of him of great superstar women You see women like Caitlin Clark and Andrew Reese They're choosing to stay in college because they're going to make more money there than ever considering coming out with a WNBA because in the WNBA,

you see, bringing ground and gotta go overseas to get home money. All these players gotta work all year just to make ends meet almost. So salute to the WNBA, we love y'all, but let's get it together. I have a couple of eyes that you can judge whether or not they were successful in sports. Let's see if they had their look in the eye. First, Risha called well, please. He did have a look of eyes that you can judge whether or not they were successful in sports. Let's see if they had their look in the eye. First, reshay called well, please. He did have a look in his eye. That is very clearly a look of a look of a man who is being held up at gunpoint.

They lost that game. Can you tell from a look in his eyes? Well, let's all cut to if there's a horrific injury in the toy story. It looks like fear, yes. Actually, they won that game. I tricked you. That's a Marty injury in the toy story it looks like fear yes actually they won that game i tricked you that's a more that's a more he shot in heimer home playoff lost no he won that there eyes can be deceptive throw up james winston please does that look like a dominant college quarterback that looks like someone unsuccessfully reading an i chart with

difficulty and how about the last one? Kyle Vandenbaugh. Oh, what is that? What is that? Terrifying is what that is. That is the demon's eyes. Dies.