The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Whatever Happened To The Alleys?

Episode Date: September 11, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:21 This is the Dan Levator Show with the Stucats podcast. This episode of the Dan Lovit's art show with Stugats is presented by Draft Kings. Draft Kings, the crown is yours. Yo, Dan, you know about cruises? I like cruises. My brother was somebody who was always traveling the world on cruises. He had one of the greatest gigs there can be and that he was always working and traveling the world that way.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Cruz are great. The Zazlo family, we cruise. We go at least once a year. You know about Royal Caribbean? Yes. Why are you asking me questions this way as if I'm somebody who doesn't know anything. I'm not saying, you know, talking about a story, and you're like, well, what are all these things?
Starting point is 00:02:02 Never heard of them, all right? So, you know the basics, all right? That's good. You'll keep up. So there are casinos on a lot of these cruises, and sometimes you could lose money in the casino. You don't always win in the casino. Sometimes you could lose money. Well, there was a gentleman called J. Gonzalez-Diaz, which turns out is not even his real
Starting point is 00:02:23 name, but that's what he was registered as on the cruise ship. Well, apparently, he racked up over 16. thousand dollars in casino debt on this royal caribbean cruise ship and in order to get out of paying it would you like to guess what happened out of how do you get out of paying a six glad you asked you say please forgive me or you jump off the rhapsody of the seas you jump off you bail he jumped off into the seas near Puerto Rico and because he didn't want to pay the rest of his debt the boat was docked, they were disembarking, and he just, you know what, I'm out of here.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Okay, but that, I, the way you guys described it made me think that that man jumped into an open ocean that wasn't docked. Okay, it gets better, because now you may be saying, well, all right, all right, what's he going to do? I hope it gets better right now, I fear for the person. Well, what he's going to do is, there
Starting point is 00:03:17 was a jet ski, apparently waiting for him. Oh, that's a getaway jet ski? Inside job, wow. A boss move. Getaway jet ski, which was also pulling someone on an inflatable boat. and he jumped on the jet ski and away they go. It's a good plan. If you're losing, I think that's a good move.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Now, he did get caught. Well, yeah, I imagine that the authorities might be able to get catch up to a jet ski. Because usually when you gamble, you got to put the money up front. On cruise ships, they give you this room key that turns into like a little credit card. And all of a sudden, I'm like, you know, I'm chasing the whole week. I'm not going to say I've come close to jumping off the boat, but I've gotten to the end of a cruise before where I'm worried about. the total that I'm looking at. Now, he told them one name. He gave them his passport after he was captured, you know, and they asked him what, the investigators, they asked him what his real name is.
Starting point is 00:04:09 And his response, Dan, was, quote, if you guys were good at your job, you would know that. He's not wrong. It's right about that. This story that you were telling me as you went through the very remedial basics of what cruise ship gambling is. Well, you may not have been able to fall along if they didn't confirm what you know. Oh, yeah. Reminds me of the story of when it is one time that I felt really dumb leaving a show because I was talking about that wonderful plot of land where the Miami Herald had a building a long time ago. The Miami Herald sold that building and kept the business afloat because of how valuable that land was Bayside.
Starting point is 00:04:49 And we were talking on air here. And I was saying how a Chinese ownership group that wanted gambling to come to Florida had bought. that land and they wanted to build a casino on that land. And I was explaining why I thought Mickey Erison objected to that casino being on that land because he had ships nearby where he had gambling and he wanted to have that to himself, I said. And I got a call afterward from Mickey Erison himself after I had done that show saying, do you know how little money that is compared to the rest of what we do, that you would suggest that I wouldn't want gambling, because of our little seven blackjack tables or whatever it is that we have, a couple of slot machines.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Like, do you realize how ignorant you sounded saying that I would want that block because I wouldn't want gambling in town? So I know what a cruise ship is. What do you think the game was that he was playing? You think it was like the claw machine that you go and you pick up all the bills? Can I tell you something? You know what's the underrated machine now in these cruise casinos? I like playing the game where you got to line up the key. on, you know, it has to fit in, in like, the hole.
Starting point is 00:06:00 The slot, yeah, I've seen that. You get great prizes. They're like an iPad in there sometimes. Yes, it'd be like a stack of $1,000 cash. I want that stack. Have you seen the game that it's just a hole cut into plexiglass and you stick your hand and you have to take out a gold bar? Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Very heavy goes gold bars. Have not figured out how to win that one yet, though. Be strong. How did it go with Mickey when you hung up near you're like 17 years from now? I'm going to take it incredibly easy on you in an interview. That'll leave no one, especially our audience, satisfied. Jane Levy is with us now. She's the award-winning former sports writer and feature writer for The Washington Post.
Starting point is 00:06:40 She's the best-selling author of multiple books. She's got a new one here, Make Me Commissioner. I know what's wrong with baseball and how to fix it. She's been following baseball all of her life. And I thought baseball got some things fixed here recently after many people objected to them making any kind of changes at all. So I'm looking forward to talking to her about what changes she would make. I know Bob Costas and others, Jane, thank you for joining us. Appreciate the time. Absolutely. I know that Bob Costas and others were very reluctant to change, for example,
Starting point is 00:07:13 the wild card, which has been a big hit because there are so many purists that didn't want baseball to change. But I feel like over the objection of others, baseball has gotten a whole lot fixed. So you are in disagreement? Oh, no. They fixed a lot of stuff. It took them a long time to get to it. I mean, the pitch clock was inevitable. And, you know, they used to have a pitch clock, and it was called the sun. And when the sun went down, that's when games ended. And umpires would hurry you along. But when lights came in, they forgot that they had to hasten things along. And the problem with baseball is that it basically decided how to do things in the 1880s. It never changed. And
Starting point is 00:07:53 And so the changes they made absolutely necessary, the pitch clock, thank you, thank you Rob Madford, thank you Theo Epstein. The idea that timelessness was something that integral to baseball as opposed to sonnets was just a mistake. I don't like the ghost runner. I hate the ghost runner. I think as some of the old time managers will tell you, if people were taught how to steal a little base the right way. They wouldn't have needed to change the geometry that Red Smith,
Starting point is 00:08:29 my hero said, was, you know, the closest thing to godliness. It's not, you know, the extra four inches changes that 90 feet thing. But I think there's more that they have to do. I assume I can quote people directly here. I mean, what Bill Lee said to me, the spaceman, you know, is, you know, why it's so fucking boring why was it boring? Why was it boring? It was so boring
Starting point is 00:09:01 because everybody knows what's going to happen. Somebody's going to hit a home run and somebody's going to strike out the side in the ninth inning. It's become far too homogenized and predictable. And so while, yes,
Starting point is 00:09:17 the pace is better, the games are shorter. Thank you. you that's still flat because three true outcomes, the walk, the strikeout, the home run, still decide a third of all games and because for the last seven years, strikeouts have outnumbered hits. So they have some fundamental things that they need to change still, none of which is going to be easy. That's why you need me. Put it on the poll, please, at Lebitard Show. Did you like it better when the pitch clock was the sun? because that is something.
Starting point is 00:09:55 The timelessness of baseball, it's funny to think in the modern age, baseball's actually been better at changing than the other sports recently. They were ahead of the whole media game in terms of owning their stuff in a way that was progressive. You stand aware, Jane, on the worst of all the changes. You think the Ghost Runner is the worst, or is there something else that makes you angrier than that? Now, the ghost runner really gets me, really, really gets me. Look, I know looking at your screen and listening to the last, you know, bit and knowing that my grandfather was a booking and a rum runner who serviced the polo grounds, I'm not exactly moralistic about gambling. But you can't say for a hundred years, where the team, where the sport, where the Hall of Fame that's not going to tolerate gambling, and then turn on a day.
Starting point is 00:10:51 dime and not expect there to be trouble. I mean, the fact that the, you know, the top closer at the, at the, for the guardians has been suspended, the fact that players are getting death threats because you struck, they struck out five people and not the four that whatever better wanted them to strike out. I mean, it's courting danger in baseball. And so I have a, I have a plan. Isn't that what politicians say? I have a plan. My plan would be, yeah, they really didn't have any choice once the Supreme Court legalized gambling in 2018 to go along with it. But why can't they take some of that money that they're making off selling their data and disseminating it to sports books and buying a piece of sports radar?
Starting point is 00:11:39 Why can't they use some of that to fund what is desperately needed here? the same kind of inner city training centers that they have all, that they've all built in the DR. Why can't they give American black kids or Hispanic kids or even disadvantaged white kids, a chance to learn the game the way those kids get? Don't they still do John Young's RBI program? Is that not something they do or is that just eye wash? I think that's minimal. Make me, Commissioner.
Starting point is 00:12:12 I know what's wrong with baseball and how to fix. it what would you say is your best idea in here, the one that would really wow people? Well, somebody said to me not long ago, no offense meant, but you're not going to live that much longer. We need a due generation of fans. My best idea, the one that everybody likes, is let all kids age 10 and under in free. Fill up those swaths of empty seats in the upper deck. That's a good idea. Great idea, Jane, can I run an idea by you? Sure, please.
Starting point is 00:12:52 What would you say is a third or fourth most exciting play in baseball? Third or fourth? Yeah, he's an asshole. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. I'm just trying to get, yeah, I'm not going to say the. Okay, squeeze play, stealing home, a triple. And somebody with an actual outfield arm who could throw said runner out at third.
Starting point is 00:13:14 base before he achieves a triple. The triple is not better than the robbing of a home run. That's what I was getting to. So let's say the fifth is robbing a home run, right? So what if we increase the odds of robbed home runs by doing something, you know, some people might think is a bit
Starting point is 00:13:31 extreme, like replacing the warning tracks with trampolines so that you can run, jump onto the warning track, and rob more home runs. That would be a more fun game, wouldn't you agree? But Jane, there will be a ball pit on the other side of the wall for a safe landing. For safety purposes. So you're going to hate this one because it's antithetical.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Yes, I know fans like to see guys bringing the ball back over the, over the fence. However, it's becoming as ubiquitous as home runs. It is. I don't look up. I don't look up anymore when somebody hits a home run. Big smear, as my grandmother would have said. My idea is to put Plexiglass walls 18 feet high along the outfield walls so that, think of this seating there.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Think of what you could get for a seat to be on the other side. It's got like, you know, like a hockey rink. Yeah. On the other side of that glass when Aaron Judge goes barreling into it, okay? It eliminates cheap home runs.
Starting point is 00:14:29 It increases doubles and triples, which is what fans say they want to see most. And it makes them develop players with actual skills in the outfield, which no one has right now, to wit my Yankees last year. So should we put clear padding just so that you could still see
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Starting point is 00:16:45 you not only satisfy your travel bug but your taste buds too. That's the powerful backing of Amex. Conditions apply. Don Lebertard. Punctuate this segment with what is your strike three call. Strike one would be strike! And then you stand up and you give a good point to the
Starting point is 00:17:03 right. Stugats. That's same for strike two. But strike three, you get down low. You got your hands behind the catcher. All right, the right arm goes up into the air. Yeah! And then you finish it with the punch. The right arm flings way up into the air. Ha! I wish I could see that.
Starting point is 00:17:21 It's terrible. The audio's great. This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats. What would you say is your most controversial opinion in here, Jane, the one that's got got people yelling at you? Well, nobody's yelled at me. but okay. I want to reconfigure the pitching staff. I think that watching a starter go 5.2 innings, which is what the average is now, is incredibly boring and watching a parade of guys come in to throw a hundred miles an hour and tear their UCLs as quickly as possible
Starting point is 00:18:06 is also boring. I want to see matchups between aces. I want to see whether or their, Clayton Kershaw was going to beat Bum Gardner in their 12th encounter. There were only 11 before Bumgarner is retired. So what I would do is make the pitching staff 15 guys and have a healthy scratch list, as in hockey. So you take your starter from the day before who's not going to throw the next day, and you get and you put three other guys there and you say, take care of your arms for a couple of days. These relievers are, they're fried by July.
Starting point is 00:18:45 And then everybody's busy scouring the waiver wire to see who can throw. When there's been just released from some other team whose relievers are shot, it's boring. It's absolutely boring. Let's give baseball a chance to have the parts of it that were so good be relevant again. I mean, why was Clayton Kershaw taken out by Davy Roberts after, throwing seven innings at a perfect game because they had to worry about his arm. But there's no, what A.J. Ellis's catcher always called, for years that the Dodgers called situational dexterity. You don't, there's no exceptions made. It's by the book. It's by the odds.
Starting point is 00:19:28 It's by the analytics. And it has ruined. It is broken all the narratives that baseball used to tell which were the best part of it. And if you, if you, if you, if you, rule every, make every decision based on probabilities. What will happen, what has happened nine times out of ten, what you do is you prevent the improbabilities. And if there was ever a guy who was going to do the improbable, it was Clayton Kershaw in Minnesota and his first started back in 2022 because he hadn't pitched for God knows how long he'd been injured. You know, that headline the next day would have been a reason to come out to the ballpark as opposed to Clayton Kershaw taken out after seven perfect innings, which says to people, why bother?
Starting point is 00:20:17 You know, that whole thing, you might see something that you've never seen before. They've eliminated so many of those things. And that's my fiercest objection. The name of her book is Make Me Commissioner, I know what's wrong with baseball and how to fix it. She's been covering baseball all her life. And I love talking to baseball people who really get into the minutia of the numbers and asking them some form of the following question. that will give you plenty of time here to filibuster and your thoughts,
Starting point is 00:20:43 because it's a difficult question. I'll give you some music too in order to give you time to think about what I'm about to ask you, which is your favorite baseball stat. And the reason I say this is to give you time to think. My favorite recently has been that if you take away all seven of Barry Bonds' MVP's, all of the stats from those seven seasons, all of them. He'd still have 400 home runs and 400 stolen bases, which no other player has ever been able to do. If I take away all his MVP seasons, give me the stat of the day music so that somebody who's a real expert on baseball can give me her favorite stat of all the stats.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Start of the day, start of the day, start of the day, start of the day, start of the day, start of the day, and this year start of the day. Start of the day Start of the day It is the start of the day Start of the day Start of the day It is the start of the day You don't like the new music Mike
Starting point is 00:21:49 You don't like the new music We've been thinking about it me and Mike Every time we hear it we're like, do you like it now? Chris keeps telling me to keep my opinion to myself Which I feel like that's not In the name of this show It doesn't sound right Jane you didn't seem like you were too pressurized by this
Starting point is 00:22:02 You shrugged your shoulders at me This wasn't even a challenge for you. You know why? You stole my answer. Second best stat. You dick? I thought you were asking what's my favorite metric. You know, all those fun names, UZR, DZR, and stuff.
Starting point is 00:22:20 I actually was going to answer fifth, which was created by Tom Tango, the senior architect of data for MLB. It's fielding independent pitching. And it's a perfect example of how brilliant these guys are and how screwed the game is because of it. So Granky, it was his favorite stat because what did it do? What does it do? It takes away from a pitcher all the things that they're not in control of, like a bad bounce, like a pebble on the infield dirt,
Starting point is 00:22:58 like a left fielder who's a moron. All sorts of stuff is gone. and it distills just what the pitcher did and is responsible for. Great thing for agents and free agency. But what it does is it completely subverts the idea of what it means to be a team meet and to pick each other up after you fall down. And so I have great, I have long conversations with Tom Tango about this. I understand that the human mind has a relentless desire.
Starting point is 00:23:31 to put itself out of business. But if we lose completely the human element, which is what players now refer to as what's missing in baseball, you know, it's just going to be not worth watching, even for me. Jane, what is the most overrated feat in baseball these days? Something that happens, that is not impressive. She didn't come close to answering my question, by the way. She said my stat was the best and then talked about FIPP,
Starting point is 00:23:58 like didn't even come close to answer my question. That was, that was, that was, she was, she was dancing. Well, you stole her stat, Dave. I was tap dancing. I got, I got, you got, you got me, you got me. Put it on the poll, please. Does the human mind, uh, have a relentless drive to put itself out of business? That was a bar, by the way.
Starting point is 00:24:17 That was a bar. Answer, I'm sorry, answer his question, please, Jane. What's the most overrated stat? Feet. Feet. Um, frankly, at this point, home runs. Wow. Shocking take by Jane right there. Shover's a bum. Say it, Jane.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Put it on the ball. Is Shwarber a bum? She's not going to say. Say it. Say it. Say it. Well, come on, guys. I mean, that you can hit four home runs in a real game, great. The fact that people went nuts over doing it off batting practice slop at the home run derby made me nuts. I mean, really? Is that what it's come to? I understand why they do it. It's one of their most valuable properties. People love it. That's great. But come on. You know, it's like two thirds of the game are missing. Whatever happened to the alleys. Ah, the alleys.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Oh, the alleys. What happened to the alleys? Billy was in one of those on the phone when the police pulled it. Yeah, it was an accident. Jane, just say it. That Otani 50-50 game, overrated, right? That 50-50 game, ridiculous. End of the game. I mean, geez. 50-50 game would be impressive. No, the game. that he got the 50-50 in where he had the 10 rbi at the four home run i mean the last couple pitch is ridiculous let me ask you question okay i turned out ask away so i saw him pitch before uh probably 25 pitches now i saw him at the last three point two innings in baltimore the other night um you know here was a guy who basically said the old-fashioned thing you know send me in coach right
Starting point is 00:25:55 put the ball in my shoe which dave roberts did not actually do but he stepped forward and he sit. He's old-fashioned in that way, which I love about him. And I was sitting right in the press box, which is no longer going to be the press box in Baltimore, because they're making a party space, which tells you what the priorities are. But I watched him throw 11, 100 mile an hour pitches in three point two innings. And they look effortless for him, right? I mean, it's a thing to behold. But I actually asked Dave Roberts, you know, should anybody want to pitch for the Dodgers right now? Look at what their rate of attrition has been in pitching this year. It's not just them, mind you, but they've had, the Yankees have had more
Starting point is 00:26:45 money sitting on the IL for pitchers. The Dodgers have had more people sitting on the IL who were pitchers. It is, you know, you're taking your life in your hands. And if I were Otani, I would say, you know what? I've done it. I've shown I can do it. He's had two Tommy John surgeries already. Tommy John, excuse me, in an internal brace. I understand.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Dave said he wants to be the guy that shows that he can throw in a World Series game and hit in a World Series game. Yes, that is legendary. But wouldn't it be okay to say one side of that is enough after doing that? I'd rather have him around to see for the next. God knows how many years, you know, running the bases and hitting the way he does, then have him do both. Jane, we appreciate your time.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Appreciate the book. Make me, Commissioner. I know what's wrong with baseball and how to fix it. Clearly knows a ton about baseball. Please join us more. Yeah, can she play Jeremy? But it's also a bit of a fraud. Hey, I'm game.
Starting point is 00:27:45 I'm here. Hey, did you see my call, by the way? No, let me see it. Oops. Yeah, you got it. Oh, yeah. To the right, right, right, right. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:27:55 You're right. You're right. You're right, oh, you're right. Oh, you're right. You have to know, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah! Yeah! Facial relations, you know what my orthopedist said?
Starting point is 00:28:11 What? What is that? I would love to know. You have the soul of an athlete and a heart of an athlete in the worst possible body for an athlete. Oh, that's not true. Pablo Sandoval. Way worse. Yeah. You know what Terry Pendleton said?
Starting point is 00:28:26 What? Go on? This is where, you know, we have a conga line of fit. Look at Louisa. Stop stepping on the, what, twice? Yeah, what is that about? We're talking on Terry Pendleton. You were name dropping.
Starting point is 00:28:41 You're name dropping. Stop! Let her answer. She's a guest. The Hot Corner Houdini. The Hot Corner, Houdini. The hot, he said, we were better off fat. You can't tear fat.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Yeah. No. Thank you. That was what I live by. That was good stuff. I know, but in the middle of all of that, though, you're saying, stop interrupting her. I called her a fraud in the middle of that. None of you heard it because everybody was just talking baseball. Do you expect me to pay attention the whole time?
Starting point is 00:29:11 I called her a fraud because instead of three and two-thirds, she says three-point-two innings. No one pitches three-point-two innings. That's how she shows up on the statute. Are you trying to explain something to Jane? Yeah, how dare you, sir. Dan Splain. He's right. You said FIPP. Mansplaining. Dan Splaining.
Starting point is 00:29:30 You said it. Dan splaining. Thank you for the time, Jane. Appreciate it. We'll tell everybody again, make me commissioner. I know what's wrong with baseball and how to fix it. Thank you. I do. It's Levy Jane. And I want your designer to come redo my dining room. No, it's perfect. Homely. Jane, thank you. Appreciate you being on with us. Appreciate it. Thanks, guys. Mike, I believe homely is an insult.
Starting point is 00:29:57 I don't think you meant it. I don't think you meant it. I don't think you meant it. No, wait, no, I'm sorry. Like plain. No. No. No.
Starting point is 00:30:04 No. No. No. Homily is worse. Homey. Homey is like homey. Homey. I mean, it's both those things, no.
Starting point is 00:30:11 No. No. I think it's negative. Well, Jane's a writer. Jane, you can get, if he says you're home. No, you're home. He said your home was homely. Did I offend you when I have your back more than anybody?
Starting point is 00:30:21 Don't make me unfollow. He meant it as a compliment. What I said was, I want your designer to come back, to come up here, and redo my dining room in the expressive colors of your set. I love it. Thank you. Are those hummingbirds?
Starting point is 00:30:39 Can I just say your glasses are dope? Thank you. And you know what? They were made by L.A. I worked and they quit making them. So I had to have somebody go to Bartholona and buying this set. That's so. I love you.
Starting point is 00:30:52 You're the best. She needs to replace you. Jeremy on this show talking baseball. Jeremy segregated again. He's at the back of the show. Baseball's over there, but Jane's welcome on the show. I'm adding you to close friends. Jane, thank you for being on with us.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Love you guys. Do you like pictures of dogs? Oh, wait a minute. She's got one on the back of the book. Go get your dog. You got Bet the dog. Infielder, bet the dog. We would love to see your dog.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Let's go ahead. We'll wait for you. I see the dog. Betty, where are you? Oh, Betty. It's not Bet the dog. It's Betty. Well, I pronounce it Betty.
Starting point is 00:31:21 But she's got Betty Davis. eyes. She's got Betty. I was listening to that last night. Wait a minute. Betty Davis eyes yesterday on SiriusXM. Yeah. Hey, boo. Come.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I did. Oh, she actually is listening. Come here. Come on. Who's a good dog? Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Oh, he's a good dog. Oh, my God. Who's a good dog? Yes. Here she is. A good dog. Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Oh. Who's a good dog? Who's a good dog? Who's a good dog? Oh, go. Oh, go, go, go. Oh, who's a good dog. Oh, who's a good dog.
Starting point is 00:31:52 I want you to know nothing gets past her. Yeah. Wow, she's not. I said, she was playing with a, she's the mascot for the Cape Cod League Orleans Firebirds.
Starting point is 00:32:06 No, she's not. She's an infielder. She's an infielder. Wow, nothing gets past her. Like Yadier Malina. Yeah, nothing gets past her. So the coach, his guy,
Starting point is 00:32:15 a cool guy named Kelly Nicholson has been doing it since 2005. The players decided they would play with during infield and practice. So they started throwing balls to the outfield. She chased every single one down. She does over the shoulder. I can send you. She's got tape.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Send it. I can show you. She goes. She gets everything. So Kelly looks at her, looks at these guys who are like, you know, they're playing shallow. And he goes, oh no, you got to go deep for this dog. Oh. Betty can get anything.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Where are you, Betty? Throw your ball. Throw your ball for Betty to get it. Throw the ball. Throw the ball. betty i if i throw this one in the house where yeah they're kind of cheap baseball so yeah you don't play ball i can i can do it i can send you take please jane thank you for being on with us we appreciate what's for lunch jane put it on ig billy that's it that's it's enough of you okay i've had
Starting point is 00:33:08 enough of you that's too strong everything you've been doing i've been trying to end this segment for about 10 minutes and you won't let me end it so i'm gonna find it dan there it is there it's got a major penalty five minutes for being billy me I thought they was going to pick himself out for Dansplaining. I support you. I'm going with. Thank you, Jane. You can go with him.
Starting point is 00:33:31 That's fine. Where do I send Betty's tape? Okay, well, Billy, you can connect with Billy who keeps doing this, even though he doesn't want it, and he's pretending like he wants it, and he's an asshole, so he's getting out of here. Both of you get out of here. But get out of here, and get that, now get that video from it, and we're going to play it during Ray Hudson. sound every day during the World Cup. Every day until the World Cup, we're going to play
Starting point is 00:33:55 both the video of her dog chasing balls and Ray Hudson sound. Must be confusing to her. Tony. Perfect. Perfect. See, she understands. She gets it. I get it. Thank you. I'm there. That's fine. All right. We will connect with you and we will get you the information so you can send us your dog
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Starting point is 00:35:27 Okay, no. The home run call was that kind of swing, that kind of thing. Stugats. Oh, it's a good call. Thank you. And plus, it doesn't matter who's hitting it. Like, you're not tailing it to a particular name. You know, all that jazz.
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Starting point is 00:37:18 We will have more baseball with Jeremy Teshe and pitch clock, which has been segregated, which will be after Jujugati. I don't know if you guys have seen the last couple of nights. In the late innings, the Yankees have been outscored by the Detroit Tigers in the last two games in the 7th and 9th inning, 17 to 1. That's bad, right? Well, the tigers are exceptional without the payroll that the Yankees have. the Dodgers are hanging on at the top of their division,
Starting point is 00:37:50 but the Padres could have beaten them in a series last year and could beat them again in a series this year because the Dodgers, I remember, I'm going to say whenever we were at 30 games from the end of the season, the Dodger over under for the season, I've never seen anything like this before because of where their payroll was, because they won the championship,
Starting point is 00:38:11 because they've got all the players, because Moogie Betts has five RBI last night, and they don't need Mookiee bet. The Dodgers over under on the season was 104 and a half. And with 30 games left in the season, they would have had to win all 30 of them to get to 105. The Dodgers don't look like what you thought they were going to look like this season,
Starting point is 00:38:34 but I can't get anybody around here to talk about baseball. And another thing I can't get anyone around here to talk about. We've been talking about Jake Paul in boxing. We've got a monster fight this. weekend. Okay, Canello, Terence Crawford and Canello, Crawford coming up undefeated, three weight classes to fight Canello. Inboxing in my lifetime, there's really been only one time that it's not about the heavyweights. And it's when Marvin Hagler and Roberto Duran and Sugar Ray Leonard and Tommy Hearns were just great fighters. Floyd Mayweather is in an argument here recently with Mike Tyson over the greatest ever. Floyd can't be the greatest ever. even though he wins all the time, because it was all about defense and nobody watches these fights to not see people get hit. The heavyweights and the big boys are always the ones that dominate the conversation. However, this fight, if you care about combat sports, Canello not having to come down at all and making Crawford come up three weight classes to fight him is super interesting.
Starting point is 00:39:37 And a lot of people who love boxing are going to be watching this on Netflix as Netflix gets into the live sports game. and you essentially get this fight for free, and you never get Canelo. Canello doesn't fight for free. That's not how that one works. But Canello specifically, when you get the race wars that boxing are traffic in, black guys against Mexicans is the one that is the most trafficked in,
Starting point is 00:40:02 and this one's going to be a monster this weekend. It's going to be an incredible fight, Dan. This is a fight that you look at, there's been a lot of fights in boxing where outside of like these big fights with Usik and with Fury like there's guys that are in their prime and there's guys that are legends
Starting point is 00:40:21 and like Bud Crawford versus Canello is going to be a monster monster fight Canello I would say back end of his prime right? I don't think you can call him his prime right now still an excellent fighter but what you can say though the thing that you can say though now that Floyd and Pachiao are done is these are the two fighters
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