The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Who Will He Chews?

Episode Date: December 14, 2023

First, what does it mean when the NBA says Draymond Green will receive counseling? We examine the story with the crew from Oddball before JuJu delivers today's Thursday Thunder. Then, Mina Kimes is back to talk Zach Wilson, Josh Allen, talent evaluation, game managers, Amin's incredible Geno Smith prediction, a new game show idea, and to absolutely roast both Chris and Lucy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Don Levittar Show with this Tougat Spatcast. Juju is outside cooking up his Thursday thunder. He will storm in here. We're always for some reason. We're very disorganized. It's a company of creatives. We're always up against it We're never on time things are always moving too fast Juju will be here in moments with a desperate and surgically planted Thursday thunder as soon as he finishes it He's not ready to do it right now and we're up against the deadline

That will be the end of the segment. It is Thursday. That will stand. Yes, it's Thursday. That thunder, thunder in general is a warning. I'm warning you right now that in about eight or nine minutes, jujube will come running in here and save the day. But before I do that, the pandemic and all the things happening

in the world and in the country, I would imagine, anxiety, a plenty everywhere, mental health issues everywhere all over our country and world. Jai Maan Green has now been suspended indefinitely and the part of that story that was most interesting to me is the league is now going to get him help and counseling. J.M. is pretty introspective. He sold his introspections to prime a documentary where he's talking about the doing of therapy.

Now, help and counseling, I mean, what do you imagine that looks like? I don't know if there's some sort of mental health crisis going on with J.M. on green. I mean, the suspensions seem to be something that happened to him a great deal because he can't control his anger. But his anger has been used as a tool for everything good that he's gotten in basketball. He funnels and channels, all of that stuff pretty well. Cost them a championship. His anger and he didn't learn whatever needed to be learned. Cost them a championship. His inability to control the way that he plays basketball so when he's getting help in counseling do you think he's doing so with the

finance do you think he's doing so hey i need help here like do you think this is something he's doing willingly or is this the league trying to control optics i think this is a situation where the league i don't think anybody really knows what to do at this point because I think that it's gotten

to such a point with Dre Mond, where he is clearly punishment. We talked about this on Onbow every weekday, but Mondays about how nothing has made him realize, oh, I shouldn't do this. Even his apology, his quote, apology to use of Nerkich, the other night was like, you know, I normally don't apologize,

but this time I didn't actually mean to do it, so I guess I will apologize. It was a weird thing to say, and I think it- What happened there, Chris? No, they're just playing a B-roll good question. There was no audio there over it. It was labeled B-roll good question there's an audio there over it it was labeled b-roll so without there would be no sound that's a roll say what you were saying then again Charlotte thank you video I thought I acted quickly there I got that thing off

quit yeah you did a maiden job just no just like clearly nothing's gotten through to him and he can like so, let me just be clear here. So, we are now celebrating that Chris did his job well by stopping Charlotte mid-thought with the sound that we left the pot open. Oh, I hit it down. The sound came on and I was like, that shouldn't be here. Get out of here. Let's talk it right now.

Great job. And Roy gave him a very formal answer. This is the metal arcway here. Congratulations. You only let a little incompetence leak out on 100%. Not 100%. Not all of it. There you go.

Take that victory laugh, Chris. Just about 40%. It is. It is for you, Chris. Do you know how easy it is to distract Charlotte? Is everyone? Again, I'm distracted. Ah! You were saying. easy it is to distract Charlotte. Is everyone again? I'm distracted.

Ah! You were saying. I don't know. You told me, Dan. I mean, your thoughts on, is he going in defiantly? Because I don't know how well therapy works if it is forced upon you. You have him kicking and screaming, going into therapy, you're gonna therapy because you want therapy.

I mean, or if you have to save your job in salary because it's part of what your indefinite suspension is going to get it reduced. I think maybe it starts that way, but eventually you sit down, you say, you know what, this is productive. If I just open my mouth and brace this and talk, it's productive.

You know, what I, what came to mind was John Malaney's standup, where he talks about the intervention happening, where he doesn't know why he's coming. And then when he walks in the room, he's like, oh, you guys are doing this to me. And I think it's a little bit of that with Dreyman. We talked about that on Oddball just the idea that it's, you know, like Charlotte said, every one of these incidents,

he's got an answer, he's got an excuse. And at some point, the world sees it, but he doesn't. He's going to have to have that moment where he realizes, oh, I do have a problem. Is it a big problem? Is it a small problem? Is it fixables or not?

That's beyond the fact. It starts with understanding, I've got a problem because these aren't isolated incidents as we talked about. He's been suspended six times. Four of them have been in the last nine months. Four of them in the last nine months. I believe it would be pretty hard to convince a defiant man

who is often rewarded for being contrarian for always fighting others, for leaning into. I always have to fight you as part of his identity, rewarded at every turn with not just winning, but with podcasts and with platforms as he starts a media career. I think this is a really difficult person to convince. He needs help to admit that he needs help. I'm not sure he agrees with that. Well, no, I don't think he does, but I feel like a lot of it could come from

his teammates. I feel like Steph and Clay, they have a bond that's about as deep as you can get as teammates. And I feel like so much of their success as a team has been Steph being like, no, Drain Mons are backbone, Drain Mons are soul. And maybe those guys are like so much of their success as a team has been step-being like no drain mom's our backbone drain mom's our soul and maybe those guys are the guys who can get through to him and say you know I know that we've praised you for this I know that this has been what has gotten us the championships but at this point it's gone past the point of being helpful and I think we got a real a back in the term grow up is being used a lot with Raymond green growing up is being used a lot with Raymangreen. Growing up is hard, man.

Like it really is. It's super hard because the things that he is, the things that he does, the value he has for that team, it's emotion. It's getting in someone's face. It's occasionally getting kicked out of games. And people are asking him to change what it is he's done. His entire life, his entire career.

And growing up is really really hard like all the Sun you watch Raymond Green to turn that off and not be that guy that's difficult He starts to wonder well the guys like me as much as they used to do I still have the same value that stuff is difficult I would say if you identify as anything as part of your personal identity and I would think that Defiance is something that he thinks as a positive, a fuel. And now he's being told, nope, not so much. We need you to alter that.

Just don't get suspended. But the thing that becomes harder there to control is to get is throw in losing frustration and now aging. He got his money when he punched his teammate in the face. He survived all of that. The team chose him and that. Jordan, pull, get out of here. You're not that. You got your money. And now none of us trust you'd actually behave like a champion. Go play for the Wizards. We're going to keep the champion, but also a mean aging. Aging is in here too. The job that he does, the way that he does it is going to be harder as he physically ages, because being more physical than anyone else when you're undersized

and playing defense the way that he does, he has to be rabid. The defense he plays. I mean, you're always talking about effort on defense. Like you're off his defense. He is almost an unprecedented defensive player. But he can't be that into his late 30s. Like, that body is gonna, that body is not gonna be able to do all of those things. Already, he's passed his prime, indisputably, correct? I would say he's passed his prime. He's not as good as he was earlier.

But I think he's still excellent. But I think to your point, part of that excellence requires a dose of that crazy that sometimes makes you cross the line and punch him out into it. But the game can't back it up anymore, maybe. And that's hard to deal with mentally. I mean, I think, I think, look, I think he's still an excellent defensive player. I think the energy and the mindset required to be that as an undersized guy is hard and requires someone who's almost crazy.

We're asking the raging fire to just not burn down this building over here, but burn down everything else around it. You're asking for precision surgical tactics with something that's blunt. It's not just that you're asking though, it's people like me and Adam Silver, okay? People who look like me and Adam Silver, whatever critics look like, okay? It's not just that that's the request to got the other bonus request is we as people, me, I'm gonna speak personally for me. Not for Adam Silver. Just for me. Give it a try, Dan.

A rebound. You're throwing an elbow near my face. Yeah, no, don't want to do this. This is not something. Never mind for a living. Don't want to do it once. What? Jokic wants a rebound and is comfortable just swinging his elbow?

No, thank you. I'll choose another career. It doesn't care if his elbow is bleed. I'm guessing that it's okay to be angry if that's what you're doing. All right, sorry about that. Let's do the Thursday thunder. We're the mobile boys.

And here we are. Great responses, Chris. Thursday thunder. Good job. Brought to you by Draft King Sportsbook. You can follow our parlay on the Draft King Sportsbook app Yes, man. I usually come in here. I hoop and holler and I give you bad picks I would like to personally apologize for the last batch of picks that I was responsible for I care too much about the audience then to keep giving this lackluster effort

Me bottom of my heart, accountability. I drew you, goddamn, sorry, for those pics. But these, though. Yeah. These things. These things. We are back, John John. I'm back.

I need my kutraman. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. There's a plastic show on this. We are going over 26.5 yards for Quentin Butterfingers Johnson tonight. He will redeem himself and he will get over his hump. Don Tunilius. Wow.

Next one. We are going over 4.5 catches for Jacobi Myers. He's an ex-patriot. He has the patriot way in his blood, which means he's a loser at times. But tonight, he will get it done. Trust me on this guy's please. You dig me.

You dig me. And the last one, we believe in the fallen soldier, Justin Herbert. But we also believe in his replacement. We do go in East and stick over 189.5 years tonight. He will get it done tonight, y'all. Please believe in us. I'm so sorry. Trustee Picks, your credibility is not strong here.

But he said sorry. He has a apologize. Not exactly what you want generally with your gambling advice and apologies. Sorry about last week. What accountability? Yeah. I'm not sorry. TJ wasp been averaging a sack of game. We also didn't get the other two legs of the parlay either.

But why not? Because I suck at making parlay's. But you do. So if someone had taken the exact opposite of what we did, they would have won in the money down. The gang. Oh, I'm done. Don Lebertard. He said while you were off there, while the connection would have won in the money. That's a good one. Come on. Don Lebertard.

He said while you were off there, while the connection was bad, he had mentioned that you have lost a lot of weight and that he admires that. What got into you? Why did you decide? I thought it was all, I thought we enjoyed being about the monkey. Yeah. Oh, it's slurring again. Okay.

The connection is bad again. I'm fortunate. Back to Magnus. Okay, back to Magnus. Magnus. And this is going about as well. As if, oh, thank you, Billy again, for laughing in my face. Stugats. Magnena. I'm looking at you. You got to. Yes, we can hear you. Hello, yes, sir, actually,

hello, action. Man, I'm really sorry. This is the, this is literally the worst way to ever do this. This is burning my heart that this is happening, but if you could hear me, just understand, I'm sorry. This is the Dalabatar show with the Stugats. [♪ Music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing I've been so long, but I miss you. I miss you too. How you been? I've been good. Thank you.

What's our Zach Wilson status right now? How we feeling? You know, it's funny you brought this up. I mean, I was telling Dan before that you have to make bold NFL predictions or just bold sports predictions. Like, imagine if you were the person six or seven years ago that said, hey, you know what, one day, Geno Smith is going to be a top 10 quarterback in the NFL. People would have laughed at you at the time,

but then you move on and then seven years later. They did laugh at me. Well, there you go. Seven years later, you're proven right, you throw it in everyone's face. Okay, that's what you do. And if you're wrong, everyone forgets about it. All right, I've made a career out of doing this.

And so I am going to say I want to own this prediction, okay, Meena? That at some point in Zach Wilson's career, he will be a top five quarterback in the NFL. Oh my God. Wow. You left now. That's the point.

What are you doing? That is a good point. Bold NFL predictions, Dan. Yeah, I think you're right. I think you guys should take Stu, giving that exact take about all 32 quarterbacks in the NFL right now. Just like 66 seconds of him saying,

Jake Browning is gonna be the MVP. Boom, Desmond Ritter is gonna be the MVP. Boom, Nick Mullins, and then bank them, or put them out there. Nobody will know, put them on YouTube, somewhere. Then when one of those things actually happens, you can reach back. We will praise him as Nostradamus.

You have like a prediction name for you. Nostradamus, yeah. Nostradamus, yeah. I forgot that, yeah. And nobody will remember the 31 other incorrect dates. So we've done this before for March Madness, where Stugats goes through the entire field and tells you that this is why they're gonna win, having not watched any of them play basketball.

Right, yep. How about this one, mean, a Bryce Young is gonna be better than CJ Strauss. How about that? Yes! And the beauty of that, no one is gonna care unless it's correct. Thank you.

Well, I mean, I mean was pointing out, I mean, I don't know if you heard about this, but I believe that Amino has and had what was the single greatest prediction, not just here in the history of our show, but in the history of predicting all things. Amino Hassan, listen to what he said, dismissed by Chris Wittingham before Geno Smith did anything for Seattle in that time where everybody was saying, oh, he beat out Drew Locke, isn't that funny?

They don't have any quarterback at all. Gino Smith stinks. Give me the sound of Amino Hassan and then get me the stats to see how close Amino Hassan came to be exactly right on what he predicted. Gino Smith would do before the season even started. I submit to you 4,000 yards for Gino Smith. Impossible. 30. 30 days. 30 studies 11 I and T's. If that exacts that line happens, I will sit and do this show in my underpants. There is no way. Clip that career 34 touchdowns 37 interceptions. You should have to do

episode from your bathtub 34 I'll do a show for my math. If you know Smith does this for yourself, King. Let me write that down 4k 4000 what do you say 32 touchdowns 11 reception 30 and 11? Yeah, 30 touchdowns 11 I'll do the show 30. I will do the show for my bathtub if this happens. Gino Smith finished the season with 4,282 yards, 30 touchdowns, and 11 interception. What? Genius. Guys, you didn't do it.

And Chris, you didn't do it? Never did a show from his bathtub. Guys, I mean, this is really embarrassing. I wish I hadn't prepared a statement like, just at the top of my head, but I'd like to thank Geno Smith for being the guy that I believed in. Like, for doing it.

I'd like to thank the Dan Levitard show for giving me the platform to have that prediction. I'd like to thank my parents for, for them I wouldn't be here today. And God, for giving me so much clairvoyance. It is amazing, correct me? I clairvoyance. It is amazing. Correct me? Like it is. How is that not gotten more attention? Well, you know, I'm not a attention person. I'm behind the scenes.

Okay. Pointed at the raptors and oh my gosh. That is an incredible prediction. I've never had a prediction. Like the most right I've ever been was when I was in junior high. and I remember Saying Kurt Warner would be good. Really? Yes, yes. What was I here? 1999, the year he...

Yeah, so I think I was in June. I think I was in eighth grade and I remember seeing the news on like sports center, whatever, and they're like, who is this guy? Arena football, or whatever? And I, my dad contested. I was like, I don't know. I think he's gonna be pretty good. And I was right about that. But it's not documented. What? And I my dad can test it. I was like, I don't know, I think he's gonna be pretty good. And I was right about that.

But it's not documented. And I get no credit for it. What are the things that you have said? What is the football opinion you've had that gets you chased around the most by people screaming or reminding them to tell Sharon? This show, deservedly. Well, this is funny that you should say this,

because in the assessments of game managers and systems taking over the sport, and this one seems super important to me, that everyone paid to do the analyzing is super shitty at actually being able to know what makes a good quarterback. They can try, but the probabilities make it really hard to tell the difference between trade-lants and Brock Purdy

when you're setting up a system around them. Then if I may help in this regard, I feel like people want to know predictions like, hey, do you think Josh Allen's going to be good and then talking heads and analysts say their thing and then when they're right, they're like, okay, when they're wrong, so you were wrong, but you never asked the right, the correct question, which is, why were you wrong? So, Mina, what were you wrong? So Mina What were you wrong about on Josh Allen like and why did you have those conclusions? Yeah, I've talked about this quite a bit

There's things I think when I revisit why I thought he wasn't going to be good Which was the mainstream and if I'll take the time in my defense I Was putting a lot of precedent on his college career. I watched Josh Allen in college. He was not the same player. He was inaccurate. And he was inaccurate. And when he came into the NFL, by the way, and I thought accuracy didn't change. I didn't think a quarterback could become markedly more accurate. Now we have a couple of examples in him and Jalen Hertz,

I would say of quarterbacks whose improvement, ARC is not something that has a lot of precedent in NFL history. And so now when I look at these quarterback prospects, like Anthony Richardson, who is sort of, he's at accuracy with spotty in college, I'm much more wary of being definitive about their capacity and proof.

I will say with Alan, and I've talked to people in the NFL about this, and Jalen Hertz, they have a shared quality that I think we on the outside can never quite measure, which is the desire to improve. Both of those guys worked their asses off to get better, to get more accurate, to improve at the quarterbacky stuff that they weren't as good at in college. And as an analyst, that is just something that is very hard to gauge. And to that point, Mina, that goes for the talent evaluators too. Because the teams, you're trying to figure out,

does this kid love football? That's the one that they always ask. But guess what? If I'm trying to get drafted, guess what my question, my answer is, to do your love football, I love it more than anything they all say that they all and and everyone that you ask in their support system Their college coaches their high school coaches They're all gonna say the same thing because they want to be affiliated with this thing that is they think is gonna be a big success

The problem is there is no way as me to just said for us to go inside someone's brain and for that you really care about it How much do you care about it? What she just talked about for Hertz and Alan that's the the golden Goose really that is the the last frontier of scouting It's you got your medicals you can even do the psych testing and all that stuff do they really care do they really give a shit about this right and Ultimately nearly impossible to know. It is impossible. They just have to do it. And those guys were like, you know, touched by God.

It's physical talent. I'm sure. It's the combination. I mean, there's a lot of guys in the NFL who really give a shit and never, never come anywhere close to touching those heights. But it mean like, you know, we were always talking about, oh, the media gets it wrong. Media gets it wrong. Most of these teams get it wrong around with the comes to quarterbacks.

Look at the hit rate over the last few years. It's just very hard to project, and that's something I've come to accept. And then there's something else that goes within that, which is sometimes the guy does care. And sometimes maybe he does have the skills, but the coach he plays for, or the system, or the team,

or the environment isn't congruent and isn't a good situation for them so they have to go somewhere else and there's a way where he was always this good why was he good this good here there's millions of reasons of why it didn't work here that doesn't mean it won't work anywhere else but we kind of ignore all those things as well happen with you know Smith I, we were discussing game managers before. Why is that an insult? Why is being called a game manager an insult? Well, I think it, it depends on how you interpret the term, but I feel like the most common

interpretation when someone says a quarterback is a game manager, which is different from being a system quarterback, by the way, is a quarterback who plays conservative, who checks it down a lot, who leans on the production of his teammates more than creating on his own. I would say a guy who doesn't elevate the players around him, but can run an offense. That's how I've always thought of the term. I think that's why when Cam Newton called a wildly different, different, diverse, rather group of quarterbacks, gay managers, people took such offense to it because it is derogatory. I know there's some debate over whether or not it's positive or not. I don't think it's like a very, it's not like damning, you know, not saying a quarterback

stinks, but it's not a compliment. Like anyone who says it says his compliment is lying. However, in the modern system, Meena, where Josh Allen's recklessness is what keeps him from winning football games, I do believe that- It's also one of bunch, though. I know, but from there you can describe that as a skill set that coaches think of as a compliment. He protects the football is the same version of game manager. And my main chief goal here is to make sure we don't have turnovers. It doesn't mean that you've got a player who can make giant plays, but they really seem

to value not making turnovers more than they do other things. Well, I would say Josh Allen's defense is what has kept him from winning big games, not his turnovers. When you look at the really big games where they've lost in overtime. More often than not, it's not been Josh Allen's fault in his defense. I think the dream is you have a quarterback who pushes the ball downfield, takes calculated risks, makes plays, and also doesn't turn it over. There are quarterbackbacks like that.

In the NFC, obviously Patrick Mahomes is the apex or whatever, but when you look at the top five or six guys, they do have both of those qualities stand. I think with Alan, the question is always like, okay, how you have to accept that with these plays because of the nature of his play, the aggression, whatever, you get some of that. At what point is the risk dial turned a little too high? I think generally, by and large over the last few years, it's been fine. Obviously, his turnovers have cost him in a couple of high profile moments, but for the most part, you have gotten extraordinary quarterback play out of him, especially lately, by the

way, he's been balling out. Don Lebertard. You know what a razor is, Dan? I do not know. I don't know what a Motorola razor is. You don't? No. I bet you you had one.

I did not have one. Really? Let's walk through your phone history. What kind of phone is it? I've never had a Motorola razor. I did not have a Motorola razor. What was your first phone? Ooh.

Not a Motorola razor. It's telegraph machine. After that. The Motorola razor, Dan, was the one that was like really really thin That it flipped over but it was like as thin as like a razor blade. That's why they called it the razor What is a telegraph machine? I don't know they had one in down nabby still got the Titanic stop has sunk in stop John take a bath to stop is missing stop You think that was my phone?

You think that my first phone was the Titanic's emergency signal? This is the Don Lebertar show with the Stu Gats. I'm thinking of Patrick Mahomes. Can you further roast Chris Cody for his take about Tony after Sunday's game? He said that the Call was a mistake. It should have never been called and we all said no, he was offset. He was

lined up. What's his logic? I take is that it was like a toenail over and that this blue line, if you take that blue line away, it's just like Chris. Let me cut you off. His take is he had money on the chair. No, if I freeze every line of scrimmage, I can find that a lot. And it's just bullshit. After last week, when there's a no call on the most egregious PI call, and then that's what we're going to call, it's just horse crap. Okay, that's a terrible take, but you did say something that I think is worth acknowledging. Everybody was really mad at Patrick Mahomes freaking out at the rest after.

And I get it. He sounded, I, the horse and who should be mad at him isomes freaking out at the rest after. And I get it, he sounded, I, the more I said who should be mad at him as Josh Allen, because we went up to back to the game and he was like complaining about the refs, you could see, you know when like someone is freaking out and they want you to freak out and you want no part of it, Josh Allen's face is so funny

and that interaction he's like, I don't want any part of it. It's just like, this is so awkward. I want to get out of here, right? I know, it's like, no, like, you know, or like when someone, like you work with someone and they like aggressively want to talk shit about like their boss or something and they're trying to bring you in and you were just like have no interest in being part of that conversation.

That is what Josh Allen looked like in that moment. However, the thing I want to say in Patrick Mahums' defense, which Chris you kind of alluded to here, his case was like, he which Chris, you kind of alluded to here, his case was like, I don't like it when restaurants decide games in big moments. He said that exact same thing the prior week when he was asked about the no DPI, which was an egregious DPI. So, I will say Mahomes has been, I don't think, this was really pointed out. He's been consistent about this. He was wrong. It was an obvious offside. I don't know, Chris, that was one of the more glaring

off-sides I've ever seen. But the center's, the ball's lined up. And then the center takes the ball when he gets there. And they have an inch or two to move it back a little bit. You could make the argument when the ball was laying down. It was where the foot was, but the center grabs the ball, puts it upwards. And then I'm just, we're talking about six inches here.

It just was, it's all right. All right, listen, Chris Cody, you just went from like one inch to six inch, somewhere between one and six inches. All right, so was like guys exaggerating size. Chris Cody, there's no such thing as a 5-11 man. Chris Cody, listen to me. I want you as punishment for how terrible that terrible how terrible that take is this is what I

I want because there's a lot that you're doing is executive producer today and I want to stack more demands on you Jessica is going to ask me a question. Meena is going to answer that question by the time Meena is done answering that question I want from you a song that celebrates someone being terribly wrong with their sports opinion and then I want to hear audio for a terribly wrong sports opinion. And the clock is on you right now. I have to call Yeti.

No, right now at the end of Mina talking, I wanna hear those two things. Mina, okay, given, this is my question, Chris, get started writing. Get a pen, come on. Give in the how long answer? Yes, take your time. Given how the officiating has been that, I, a lot of, not just Patrick Mahomes,

but a lot of fans are complaining about the season two, the inconsistencies, given the comments this week about, potentially outlawing the hip drop tackle next season, or that being something that the NFL is gonna look at How do you think that officiating around that is gonna go if that's now something that the raps are gonna emphasize? Yeah, I think they'll just call it like they see it all right go Chris. Oh my god Or so wrong, or you're wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you're so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong, you are so wrong. You are so wrong. Wow.

Amazing. It is. It is. 45 seconds. He came up with all that. Do you have audio of anybody being extraordinarily wrong? You could just run prism back from a few minutes ago. That's one thing I learned about having a kid is,

I do have to make up songs on the fly, which I've never done that before. Never been a performer, singer, or a rimer, or a poet, or an improviser in any sense. But there's only so many times you can sing Twinkled Twinkled Little Star before you start kind of remixing your own version of it. But and then you just find yourself reaching for the worst rhymes. Uh, yeah. Mina, the good news is they can't tell. They're going to be fascinated by anything you do.

Cruising. It's okay. Well, because I'm like, I'm rhyming. And Nino with Mina with my kid's name. and I'm like, that didn't really track. No, I don't think that me. Mina, I think the weirdest you get with the rhymes and the stranger stuff is the cooler your kid is gonna be. Just saying, okay. Well, no one's gonna back me up here. In a room full of freaks, no one's gonna be like,

yeah, go for it. It's all gonna be amazing. It's interesting. I don't want him to learn the, like to, you know, come out of this thinking that star rhymes with fart or whatever I say to him. I want him to act like, I always, I pronounce a lot of words wrong

and I think it's because I didn't know how they were pronounced for a lot of my life and I've been shamed for it, isn't it, don't you? Like what, Sam, words you read, but I've never heard a loud, give me one. Uh, on my very, I've mentioned this But I've never heard a loud give me one. On my very, I've mentioned this, I had my very first date with my husband. I was like, I'll have the broccoli, raw bay, confidently. No, that's wrong. Confident. Although, you know, maybe he was, you know, like that's like, what do they say about like, you should play dumb or something. It's like toxic kind of like. And little giggle.

Oops. Got him. Trapped. Here we are. Now we actually do have, after that imaging, we have to have a submission. And we will see how long it takes for someone on our show to beat this.

Right now, currently, the leader in the clubhouse for most wrong is this clip from Get Up in my Greenberg. Thrilled that the Jets did not trade for tyree kill had the jets made that the uh... dismayed by it i write a wrong should i have wanted tyree kill no you should not have wanted tyree kill when a trade like this happens ask yourself

which of these two teams of smart in which of these two teams is not okay the chiefs have been extremely successful for almost a decade now under andy read because they don't do stupid things the dolphins meanwhile traded everything and then paid him as the highest paid receiver in the history of the nfl that's not the kind of thing smart teams do he's a twenty eight year old wide receiver who's game is solely reliant upon speed who's played the entirety of his prime with patrick mohomes you're paying a hundred and fifty cents on the dollar

i think you're completely right brine florist got fired because he doesn't think to a tongue of ILO is a great player. And you know what? That's because to a tongue of ILO is not a great player. But you know who has to justify that pick, the man who made it. So the general manager, who will forever be the guy

who took Tua instead of Justin Herbert, when Justin Herbert is standing on the stage and getting Ohio getting his Hall of Fame jacket, Justin Herbert is standing on the stage and can't know how getting his whole a fame jacket because he's going to be the best quarterback in the league for the next 10 years. And to is going to be a backup somewhere that the general manager is going to know he was wrong and the owner is going to know. But in this particular case, the general manager convinced the owner I was right and the coach doesn't believe in him.

So the dolphins in my opinion made a terrible deal. I am thrilled the Jets didn't make it, and I agree with you. I think Kansas City got it right. It's amazing. So what? I mean, how wrong was he? It's like, wait in LeBron.

There are like 30 different takes packed into that 15. So I don't even know which take. I mean, you have to acknowledge the take-to-time ratio there which is something we should measure like war. DCR. Through the roof. Yeah. I look I didn't think Hill would be this good in Miami.

I like I didn't think first of all he's historically good right now. What he is doing is like literally never been done. Hold on a second. Meena why Lucy Lucy Charlotte? Why are you tears laughing back there? What happened? Charlotte just He's in her head What's he doing? They fell off Why are you so crying?

She's like a cartoon character You have video of that? I was like, you see it? Please tell me we have video of that. She's in the background there. There must be like a fuzzy headphones line up. Lucy, please explain your dog question to me and please. Meena, I've been having kind of a rough day at work until Charlotte's sleeping on that phone. So this weekend I am renting a dog,

so I'm going to the shelter inside the dog for the day, so that they can go out in public and, you know, wear the little adopt meat like collar, and so that they can get exposure outside of the shelter. And they have to turn them back in like six hours later. And everyone said that was really me to do, because I'm giving the dog false hope. And I think it's not an orphan.

It's, you know, find a home. You're helping the process. It sounds like you're pimping the dog. Why not pimping the dog there? But what you literally, you're like, I'm going to get him gussied up, taking out to the streets, advertise his services, try to make him attractive to a buyer,

and then take him back. Yeah, it's a bit out of track. I was wondering if it's a shelter, literally the definition of a classic definition of print. That's what they ask you to do. What is dog wearing? Are you making him wear? So they give you a little adopt me like harness,

so it'll say adopt me all over it. They ask that you take it into a public place and you take pictures. I'm excited. And you take pictures. And I'm excited and everyone thinks it's really cruel. It's evil. Yeah. Sorry, I'm just not thinking of Lucy with the dog. I'll gussied up. Lucy's wearing a fur coat in my image.

If a dog. Not to like lean on stereotypes here, but I guess I just did. Sitting about like six yards away from the dog, watching the dog, because you don't want people to think you own the dog and the dog's unavailable. That's not what they do. It's not to me stuff on it. So it'll have like adopt me clearly written on on the harness. I've done this before.

I didn't like adopt a dog for a hike, but I got to go on a dog with a, or a hike with a bunch of shelter dogs. And they all had like adopt me leashes and collars and harnesses on. So it just says adopt me all over it. And they all had like a dot mean leash and collars and harnesses on. So it just says adopt me all over it. And they encourage you to like go out and meet people so that they pet the dog.

And maybe they want to adopt the dog. So I feel like I'm going to have a great day. And I feel like I'm doing a job. Jessica, why are you mouthing terrible? The aren't. Everyone's being so mean to Lucy and this poor dog. I'm supporting you. Share the poor dog.

I mean, about the poor dog when they get right at the end of the day when it's like, oh, this was fun, right? Back to the kennel. Back to the kennel. Who has a social media following? Who can post this dog? What if it gets a dog and it can get it? And it can get it.

And it can get it. Yeah, also, you don't like not go on vacation because it's gonna end. That's true. It reminds me of my idea for a television show, which I've pitched to numerous people, and everyone always says, brilliant, but to mean, which is, okay, yeah. I might have to show. Tell me you wouldn't watch this show.

Take a shelter dog. He spends a week with one family, a second week, it probably says TV schedule, so it'd probably be like three days, with another family, then, week, it probably schedule also three days with another family, then, and you take everything. Then, in the conclusion, you go out to a field, you put one family on each end of the field,

you put the dog in the middle, the middle, then you see Tagline, who will he choose, C-H-E-W-S? Yeah, yeah. Pears, children, family, family, overjoy. then you see tagline who will he choose C-H-E-W-S? Uh-huh, yeah, yeah. Pears, children, family, family, overjoy. Got to be honest. Yes, yes, work.

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