The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Who's That Guy? (feat. Brandon Marshall)

Episode Date: December 16, 2025

"THAT'S MY BABY!" Brandon, B-Marsh, BM... is here as a huge fan of the show to ask, "Hey, wait, who's that?" He tells us about his best quarterback, reveals that he once played a game high on painkillers, and serves as the traffic director for the show's staff. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We were talking a bit flippantly earlier about Tua and Tua. brain injuries and the way that he is most associated with the idea that we do not know just how much damage is done to the human brain playing football. Jackson Dart doesn't know why or how he ended up in the concussion protocol on Sunday, but he has now started 10 games and has five times where the concussions have knocked him out of games. His playing style is going to welcome violence, his recklessness, his athleticism, his size, not great, not great size, not exactly Josh Allen, the centaur, not exactly Justin Herbert. And it wasn't that long ago that when Russell Wilson or Baker Mayfield,

we're coming into the league. We were saying that's not enough size for that position, but we were doing it because the linemen and looking over the line was the problem. We weren't actually doing it because, oh, their head's going to get batted around and there are all sorts of dangers out there. When I say Jackson Dart has played all of 10 games, and I've told you we've got at least five concussions

that we know about concussion protocol situations that we know about. Okay, situations, not five confirmed concussions, right? He did not get five confirmed concussions. That seems crazy. Of the 10 games, he's got five times that he's gone to the blue medical tent to get selected to, you know, concussion protocol. But he's also missed two games because of a concussion. Okay. I don't know if you guys watched Kenny Pickett at all last Sunday against Philadelphia.

But that is offensive incompetence. And Kenny Pickett went through while Tua was going through his stuff. Pickett was also getting an unusual number of concussions, but we skipped right past that because we didn't have the one game by itself on a prime time where you've got a. arm spasming like it was a seizure and everyone worried about should Tua be out there. What do you do with what I just put in front of you as it relates to Jackson Dart where he's woozy enough that he's getting sent to the tent and he's headed into a protocol while he's not missing three weeks like C.J. Stroud did. And while we don't know how this affects people while they're sleeping during the week, all of this stuff is kept quiet in terms of

the details. I remember the first time. Do you remember? The hit that Chris Chambers took against the Denver Broncos going across the middle where he ended up missing six weeks and we don't talk about the details of what it looks like to be in the protocol. C.J. Stroud on a Tuesday of his third week was being ruled out. That means he's failing the tests. If I put the details in front of you guys, do you imagine you'd be horrified by what the details were that the doctors are using to make someone fail a concussion protocol? call test? Yeah. Do you imagine that the details, because I remember the first time I was ever introduced to concussions at all, it was the old University of Miami defensive end, Bill Hawkins, who said, it's the first time I ever had any inkling what football could do to the human head.

Bill Hawkins was saying that he's on the field and he's past rushing and he couldn't stop thinking about M&Ms, like that his brain was just scrambled and all he was thinking about while he was running around out there was M&M. Troy Aikman, in the recent Netflix documentary about the Cowboys, says he played in an NFC championship game. He does not remember. He doesn't remember any of the details. He played in the entire game. He won the game, I think. I think he won the game. I think he played well without remembering it. What do you guys do with the Jackson Dart information? I mean, I don't know that there's anything to actually do with it. I think this is this is the game and as long as he ends up passing concussion protocol whenever it is he's going to go out there and play again like these guys chose this life i don't think

there's anything to actually do about it if if we could predict a proneness to concussions it would change everything about the way we draft and think of quarterbacks and other positions dolphins never would have drafted tua giants never would have drafted dart i mean you can't foresee it coming unless there's history in college, you just can't foresee it coming. And it is absolutely frightening. And that's the hard part about how to even talk about it is that we all know that the next serious concussion Tua gets is the end of his career. But yet we fault him when he's running for a first down and slides a yard short. Shouldn't have slid. Shouldn't have slid. Got to dive forward there. See, it's very difficult because we're playing both sides there. You know, he's playing. He's playing. He's

playing for his future, his health, his kids' futures, and yet, you know, he can't be the player we want him to be. It's just, it's super frightening the whole subject. Greg, on the Tua situation, right, like, did he have a documented concussion in college? I don't know. I don't think so. No, that was not something that he came out into the league. It was the hip, it was the ankle, it was all those things. So, like, when you talk about injury prediction, obviously we don't have that, doesn't exist, but you would look at that and say, like, all right, his hip, his ankle, but not a concussion. In the pros, he hasn't had any issues with his hip. He's hip or his ankles.

Oh, I think you heard his hip last year. The only predictive analysis you could do in terms of prone to concussions is size, and that's something that they take into account. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with the Jackson Doart thing, but I know what the Giants should probably do, change his playing style. He can play from the pocket. He has a decent arm. I don't know how dependent he is on his athleticism to make the arm work.

I think he's pretty good throwing the football. I tell him to change his style, see if we can work on that. That is something that you can work on with players. And I'll evaluate the roster, and I maybe bring back James Winston. I make sure that I have a good backup quarterback because him being knocked out of the game seems to be the thing. He's averaging a half a visit to attend the game. I remember it stood out to me at the beginning of this college football season when they were talking about Arch Manning and the advice that he got from Archie Manning before the season started before that gave it Ohio State.

Because Archmanning likes to run around, you know, and the advice, it stuck with me, the advice that he gives him on the phone before they hang up. Every phone call when they talk about football, before they hang up, Archie tells Arch. Get down or get out of bounds. And like, that really stood out to me. That's what it is with these guys. Get down or get out of bounds. Brandon Marshall is going to join us here in a little bit, and I'll ask him some of these questions about concussions,

because I'm just, I am curious. I did a story a while ago with Bernie Khosar, where we were walking through his home, and he was just sort of explaining to me the era that he played in where he's explaining what it's like to get sacked on the astroturf by Lawrence Taylor. And he's just sort of going through his house and showing me where he keeps some of his teeth. His body has been destroyed by football. And I'm imagining when he talks about some of the dependencies to alcohol that he has had that

have resulted in a liver transplant plant, I'm assuming that he's doing some self-medicating on pain there because you need something to make your body feel a little bit better if you're being sacked back then on AstroTurf by Lawrence Taylor. You're not protecting the quarterbacks the way you are now. It is fairly amazing that during our lifetime, the moment that Tom Brady got hurt is the moment that all the rules changed for the quarterbacks. It's also amazing to me that even though the rules have changed for the quarterbacks, Jackson Dart is still ending up in the concussion protocol,

five out of the last 10 games, which it's not just oxymoronic that you can't keep a violent game safe, it's also a delusion to think that there are any rules that you could put in place for the quarterback that would actually protect the quarterback, given that every week we're looking at a call still that's roughing the passer where all of us are saying that's not roughing the passer. Every, the number, the lengths that they're going to to protect these quarterbacks where you actually have Jeffrey Simmons coming in and coming in right up the middle and trying to put his arms at his side because he doesn't want to land the wrong way on a quarterback that he's been sacking the entirety of his life before the last three years. I mean, think about what we're trying to do to protect these people and yet still it's impossible to protect them. Mike's sitting here saying change Jackson Darts playing style and I'm like, man, that's just going to be really hard to do. You can tell him, but once you're being chased by somebody, you're going to run out of the pocket.

This guy's instinct, the thing that makes Jackson Dard, Jackson Dard, the thing that makes him paint his face that way and want to be a New York star is that he's going to run right through to try and get to the end zone. I don't know how you change that. And it's hard to change those things like we talk about Diego Pavia situation. Like Diego Pavia got to where he is because he is like that. So asking him to stop being the way that he is is kind of tough. You can look at hindsight and be like, yeah, he shouldn't have done that. But that's who he is. Jackson Dart is a guy who's going to be athletic.

He's going to go out and try to be aggressive and get first downs and dive head first. How do you train somebody to not do what he's done his entire life? I mean, you can retrain Jackson Dart and Tua to be different kinds of quarterbacks, but always to the detriment of the team. I mean, that's the big criticism is if your quarterback can't run on third and two, with a likelihood of getting a first down. That's a huge problem in the modern NFL, and it is the big difference.

One of the big differences is why Josh Allen is so great, why Patrick Mahomes has been so great. Those guys can run on third and eight, and you feel good that they're going to get a first down. But one of the reasons that this is not afflicted, Josh Allen. I told you earlier this season how weird it was for me to see Sauce Gardner come on a blindside blitz, hit Josh Allen in the back and he just spun out of it because sauce gardener's not big enough

to do anything that actually hurts Josh Allen in my lifetime let me see if I have this right because you guys I understand how it is that you would come about saying well just teach him how to play differently in my lifetime in football there have been two things that I could remember that have been coached out of a player Tiki barber used to fumble and then they made him hold the ball differently and he stopped fumbling. He no longer was a fumbler. Usually if you're a fumbler, you just lose your job. You don't stop being a fumbler. You just get run out of the league. The other thing that was coachable is Josh Allen's recklessness. He is less reckless. He can still do it, but he doesn't turn over the ball as much. Do you guys have a lot of examples of a coach

being able to coach the style out of a quarterback? Like, coach. I have a couple, but sometimes the league legislates it with how they hit you, right? Ben Rathesberger stopped doing that because his body couldn't do it anymore. He kind of grew out. Remember what he was when he broke into the league and what he was when he left the league. But Donovan McNabb was a guy that leaned on rushing the ball a lot, and Andy Reid changed his style of play. He was a guy that could tuck it down and run if you needed him to,

but he wasn't the scramble that he was when he broke into the league, and certainly not the scrambler that he was in Syracuse. Wasn't Josh Allen a little more reckless than he was a few years ago? Wow, you weren't listening at all to the show a second ago. What were you doing? Were you thinking about cake? I was thinking about examples like Josh Allen. It's a good example.

But it's one of the examples that I gave. That was probably while I was thinking. It was worth reiterating. Two examples. And the most recent example that he gave. That's on me. Oh, no one's confused about that part. So you admit it's a good example.

So you were right, Christopher. Good job, Chris. Definitely not wrong, but I should listen better. You were thinking about lunch, weren't you? I was looking, honestly. It's not here yet. It's not here. All right.

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What's up, B. Marsh? What's up? What's up, man? They told me to start to intro you like that. I was a little embarrassed to do it. I was going to say Brandon, but he told me to say B. Marsh. I was a little devil over his shoulder. It sounded bad. It sounded clunky. It sounded awkward. I told me to say B.M. I told him to say B.M. What a B.M.M. That's bowel movement. No, listen. Listen, listen, if this was three years ago, uh, uh,

It would have been on point, right, because I was a friend of this show. But dang, guys, you haven't invited me on a show in about three to four years. What's up? It's overly chummy, given that he hasn't been on the show in a while. He'd also be offended by the conversation that we were having before he came on because I'm like, this person's really close to being a Hall of Famer. If I'd given him a quarterback, if I'd given him a quarterback, I feel like Brandon Marshall would have been in the Hall of Fame, 12,000 yards and 13 seats.

seasons. That's pretty prolific. So it's nice to see you. Thank you for being on with us. Who was the best quarterback you played with? Great question. It was Ryan Fitzpatrick. I mean, that's the easy answer for me. I had 22 guys throw me a pass. Ryan Fitzpatrick easily was the greatest one. I was just on another show and we were talking about Philip Rivers, right? When I was playing with Ryan, when I had Chad Pennington, when we had Josh McCown go from, you know, substantive. teacher to back to the Chicago Bears and then lead the Bears to the number two, number one Chicago Bears offense ever, I realized that the quarterback position was 80% mental, 20% physical. Now, if we're going physical, then I got to start with Jake Cutler, right? There wasn't a ball, there wasn't a pass that he couldn't throw. I mean, he was one of the greatest athlete's ever been around, but there was so much else going on around him, whether it's our team, you know, maybe where he was at, where he never was able to elevate to where I believe Jay Cutler could have ended up on the quarterback list.

But Ryan Fitzpatrick, man, was a beautiful, beautiful guy to play with. There you go. Yes, there go my baby. That's my baby. That's my baby. I should have mentioned, by the way, he'll be part of the in-studio team for Netflix's NFL Christmas Day double-header broadcast. He'll be doing Lions.

Let's go. Vikings live pregame show starts at 4 p.m. Before you came on with us, we were talking about concussions here, and I don't think that we have any real knowledge of what it means to have your head scrambled. Can you explain to us any of the details? I don't know if you ever had much experience with concussions, but the parts that people don't know about lack of sleep or how you actually get affected and scared, what can you tell us that people don't know? Wow. The first thing that came to mind when you said, I actually got goosebumps and chills right now. As soon as you said that the first thing I thought about was my only concussion and it was in my contract year and it was when I was in my sauna at home and I was like, oh, this concussion thing is real.

It's when I just like literally just put my head down, just close my eyes. I wanted to sit a little bit, maybe 15, 20 minutes in a sauna. And soon as I put my head down, I almost tipped over. And then I jumped out. I didn't know if it was because of the heat and I probably wasn't a good idea at the time. and I did not tell this to the team because it was my contract year. If I lost games, I probably lost a big deal. And so I got out the sauna.

Then I, you know, got dressed. I went to go put on my shoes and I fell over again. And that was two weeks after the concussion. I said, dang, this two weeks ago I had this concussion. And every time I would bend over to put my shoes over, close my eyes, I would just fall, I was almost fall over. You know, it was very scary at the time. and I had to promise my lady that I would never do that again. But what I was thinking about was my kids that never came.

You know, I was thinking about my kids that I have now, Z, Ziggy and Zoe. I said, there's no way they're going to drag, take me off this football field. I came too far from the poorest county in all of Pennsylvania, one of the toughest cities, poverty-stricken. There's no way I'm going back there. That's the only thing I could think about. So all I was saying is I'm finishing this year, finishing year. I end up finishing having over 100 catches, you know, another Pro Bowl year. And I went on to the Miami Dolphus came down here with you, Dan.

You did not invite me on the show at the time. I think you were still at ESPN. You was with the bad guys at the time. And, yeah, so that was my situation with concussions. We recently talked about something that Quentin Jammer, I believe you played against Quentin Jammer. Quintzamer said in 2010, he played eight games just shit-faced drunk. And I'm like, that's not possible.

You cannot cover Brandon Marshall if you're drunk. You can't cover him when you're sober. Do you think it's possible that he was shit-faced drunk for, he said, eight games in 2010 or 2011? Your show is going to turn to something different because I'm about to give some virus bites myself. I played high one game, and I had three touchdowns. It was Chicago beers against the San Francisco 49ers.

Now, I wasn't high off of no drugs or weed. well, that type of drugs, no street drugs. I was actually high off of pain pills, right? The week before, we're playing against the San Francisco 49ers about to open up their new stadium. It was like Sunday night football, Monday night football. I tore my ankle. I was supposed to be out six weeks. I said, no way.

And I asked the team just to give me until pregame to prove to them that I could be good enough to go out there. And so, man, I take this thing up after a long week of just healing and recovery, flying doctors into Chicago. to help me out and I mean I may have popped like six six pills right what is it coding or something coding and hydro coating and then there was two other things I got the the horse shot they call it that uh the one shot you get in your butt I got that the tort all the time they wasn't the tort all yeah there was so at the time they stopped giving us the tort all shot so what I end up doing is going on the black market and getting toward all pills so I took two tordalls I took maybe four or so hydrocodings and I went out there and I felt nothing and I scored three touchdowns.

Well, career high. Three touchdowns. So, yes, a guy can go out there drunk for eight games and play pretty good football. What do you remember about how your thinking was affected? Because you had five catches for 48 yards. You had the three touchdowns. You have some cognizant memories of how it is that you felt or you just felt nothing? No, I just remember, I just remember taking them, you know, right before we went out and just being like, holy, I'm trying to stop cursing here.

So can't say that because my mom is watching your show. She's a big fan. But I'm like, holy, what is happening? I was scared. I said, I may have made a mistake. I don't feel the pain, but am I going to be able to remember all these plays? But I was fine. I was fine.

I really was fine. you know i was able to i was able to navigate through it so there was no no no lacks in that area brandon the season opener in 2008 against the chargers and quentin jammer you had 18 catches for a hundred sixty six he was drunk and a touchdown yes he was drunk how do you give him 18 catches he was drunk no no no no it wasn't against uh quentin jammer that was more so Antonio Carmardi. Pro. He had 11 tackles, though, Quentin Jammer, so you

got to think, maybe there's a chance that was near you. Yeah, so well, 2011, that was a different year. You got to, you should have asked, now mental health is a real thing. You know, I think this, when did he retire, right? Because 2011, the first time I faced Quentin Jammer, and I used to see him twice a year, was in 2006.

And that was actually my welcome to the NFL moment was Quentin Jammer. So Coach Shanahan, it was week six. So Coach Shanahan called me on the off day. And he brought me in his office and he said, I'm putting you in now. He said, here's your package and here's who you're going against. I think this is a great matchup for you. You're 6.5, 2.30. You know, he's like slow. He's stiff. You know, you're going to be able to dominate this guy. But this is your, this is your time. It's time to go. It's going about 20, 30 plays.

You're the third receiver now. Okay. You ready? I say, yeah, I'm ready. So I go out the best buy, I buy myself a TV that I couldn't afford a time when players, those big TVs was thousands of dollars. And I went outside my budget. I said, man, I'm going to go buy this. So I got to pay it off, man. I got to go ball out on Sunday. Man, I get out there on Sunday, Quentin Jammer jammer jammed me up.

Quentin Jammer, I said, this is a grown man. I couldn't get down the field. I said, man, what coach, Coach Shanahan set me up for failure. So that was my experience with Quentin Jammer. And there was so much respect for him after that. And those years after, you know, they started to deteriorate a little bit. So maybe he was just in a different hit space in 2011. Well, I remember the game that you had against Dorel Revis because you were as formidable as there was at the position.

Give me a guy that you went up against like that where you would put even ahead of Quentin Jammer because that's at the beginning of your career. You then learn some things. But give me later in your career. You're established and you're going up against somebody and you're like, this is a problem. Yeah, a couple guys, right? So when I was young, there was always like these grown men, right? I'm like, oh, this is the NFL grown men.

Quentin Jemmer was one of those guys. Another guy was Al Harris. Al Harris, defense of back coach, I believe, for the Dallas Cowboys, maybe now. He used to play for the Green Bay Packers. He was a grown man, okay? Now when you look at my peers, of course, you have Derell Revens out there. You have Akeed to Leave. You have Richard Sherman.

He has some great matchups out there. But there were some interesting guys. too, right? There was guys that was like, oh, I wasn't prepared for him. And there was guys I feel like kind of made their career or started their career off of games like against games against me. Gilbert. So bump and run Gilmore. Okay. So he was one of those young guys. I was like, okay, he's interesting. I got to watch a little bit more film on him. Another young, another guy was, I'm sorry, I'm missing his name. The defensive back that coach Belichick benched in the Super Bowl.

We all was like, what is that? Yeah. Malcolm Butler. Malcolm Butler shut me and Alshon Jeffrey down when we were in Chicago. This dude came off the bench. He looked like he came out at a bar, and he just shut us down. And then there was another guy, Xavier Howard from the Miami Dolphins. Xavier Howard was a dog, right? So there were some guys out there.

But of course, the big dogs, you know, Champ Bailey, Derell Revis, those were some grown men and some some really cool matchups. And another one that, you know, I probably never beat this guy or, you know, I had some great matches against Dorel Revis, but Charles Woodson. Charles Wilson was 50 years old and I couldn't understand why

he was still keeping up with me. Fluid hips. Well, you mentioned Malcolm Butler, that body, you're just looking at that body and you're like, that can't cover me, correct? Correct. 100%. He looks like Your guy over there. What's this guy to ask me the question about, what's your name

over there. Zaslo? Me? Malcolm Bubles. Zazlo. He's got a big eye head, right? Soda drinker's body. Zaz, how long have you been on the show?

Oh, like eight or nine months now? How long? Eight, nine months? Yeah, you're a new guy. You're the new guy. You're the rookie. You're the rookie. Yeah, yeah.

This show's been around 20 years, buddy, okay? Earn your stripes, buddy. I'm trying to fit in. Get out of here. You're still in your first year. Get out of here. Do you have guys over here been on the show for 10 years? Doing the same thing, getting Dan's coffee.

Boy, last time I'm here. And now you're going to give him TV time. How dare you give him TV time in the first year? I regret bringing up your 18-catch game. Hey, guys, Tony here. Tonight at 8.30 Eastern, it's the Emirates NBA Cup championship game on Prime. This year's quest for the cup has delivered incredible moments and jaw-dropping highlights. And they've all been building towards this, the final two teams.

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Brushing your teeth? Obviously smart, but not a rule. Never pee-p. on an electric fence. Okay, maybe there are two rules. But the one that is 100% that I insist on completely, Yeagermeister must be drank ice cold. Or don't drink it at all. Damn, that's cold.

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This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats. Do you have a good Talib's story? Because he was scary. Talib was scary. I guess my only... to a key to leave story was getting this podcast business last year so you know i went through a lot had a breakup on her podcast and then i was like i'm gonna put the team back together and so it's like my third time like taking a shot at it calib akib comes down and he gives his speech to everybody

who was there mortellus bennett ted prescott all these guys uh some legends and uh he's like we got her brothers back i believe in team team team team team team team Team, team, team. Boy, we got into the season. Akiv, after week two, week three, he's like, no, man, I can't show up. It was a good speech. And now he's on Gilbert Arenas's platform,

doing a phenomenal job. But it's exactly, you know, what everybody saw because years ago he was taking off in the booth and then he had to, you know, step aside for a couple of years. But he's one of the bright spots in sports media now. I'm excited for him and miss. and said that we missed the opportunity to build a platform together. But he's going to do well.

I don't know your age off the top of my head. I assume you're younger than Philip Rivers. When you're watching Philip Rivers not play for five years and then play that way, your assessment was what of that performance on Sunday? Not surprised at all. Not surprised. I was excited. I wanted to see the ratings.

That's why I wanted to see how many people was actually going to turn on a TV just to see, very curious, you know, I didn't expect him to go over 150, and I think that may have been the line. So I wasn't expecting that, but I was expecting him to operate at a high level. You guys got to think, you know, he goes way back with this head coach. This head coach was, you know, on his offensive staff when he was still playing. And, you know, quarterbacks, they know what they can do and what they can't do, right? It's not like they were going through the whole playbook at him, right? So, you know, the Saturday before the game, you get the call shoes like, I like this, I like that, I don't like that, right?

So he's going to be in a comfortable spot. The question was, was he going to be able to bounce up from a hit? And, you know, they protect the quarterback now. I said this earlier when we talked about the quarterbacks. The quarterback position is 80% mental, okay? Peyton Manning at what, 40-something years old as well? Couldn't, with a broken neck. He won the Super Bowl.

He couldn't pass, he couldn't make a throw the ball past 25 years. Who's this guy over here shaking his name? Who's this guy? That's Tony. That's Tony. What I was going to say is the defense really carried me. He went nine for nine touchdowns, 17 picks. That's he's in Brock Osweiler also helped a little bit.

But no, I agree. Hold on. I like you. I like you. I like you. I like you. I love those guys. Those are our guys.

Those are our guys. Yes, shout out to Chris. But also you know you're stuck because I was going to go to it. But you cut me off when you start doing a little hand gesture. Great defense. They can run a ball. They could do it all. Brock Osweiler.

That's where you missed me. Brock Osweller. they paid him all that money and he stunk it up he was trash i agree he stunk it up he stunk it up but Peyton manning was able to do his job that's all that's all you need out of some of these quarterbacks just do your job don't mess up the game when you have all those other pieces around them they happen to have potentially this year's best back in football right they got a good defense just don't mess it up just don't mess it up can i like you though man how long you've been on this show five years all right you're o g better than zaz big a head zaz

Why does Zaz got the better seat than you? Like, that doesn't make any sense. You guys just switch right now. Like, talking, right on. Talk to it. Talk to him. The man, the man said switch. Switch, switch, switch, switch. Give me what you got on to and the dog.

Hold on, hold on. Go back to that camera. Last camera, camera angle. Who's that guy? Who are you pointing at now? Greg Cody? Are you pointing? No, no, not pops. Oh, don't, don't do that. All right. I got a question. No, no. Go to the other camera angle

where we just switched. No, no. Black guy, uh-oh, D-E-I. That guy right there who's not smiling. Okay, Roy. Go back. Nope, no, go back. Got to be Mike Ryan.

That guy. Who is that guy? Why doesn't he smile? He needs to have his own show. Why aren't you smiling, buddy? You okay as Christmas? I no longer believe you're a big fan of our show. He's been around for longer than most of the people around here.

I do appreciate you coming in here and calling him pops. and respecting the generational talent off of last night's game, Tua and the Dolphins. We have been pretty hard on the idea that there's been a regression there. Your thoughts on what the Dolphins need to do at quarterback. Yeah, I just, man, I hate to talk like this, man. I guess it's part of our job, right? You know, my job now that I'm on this side of the line with you, if you want to win a Super Bowl, you know, Tua is not the guys going to help you win a Super Bowl,

but Tua, you got to respect a couple years that he gave you to came in here and gave some stability and had some phenomenal years, but something's off there. You know, call it concussions, call it, you know, relationship with Tari Kiel. You know, Tua is an interesting one. I think that, you know, that decision is going to be on Mike if the general manager decide to keep Mike McDaniel. Mike McDaniel have to decide does he want to keep Tua. But what, you got to realize this, too, guys, is that relationship between a dog number one, one receiver and the quarterback is everything. There's been times I've been in the locker room as that dog number one wide receiver

and, man, I was in my quarterback's head. When I was young and how I approached situations, it tore up the whole offense aside. Our offense of quarters can't think. They're holding the cars like this every day shaking because they're like, man, if I don't call the right plate and Brandon Marshall's not in it, I got to hear from him. Then you go to your quarterback. Your quarterback is frustrated. He can't go through his progressions.

So the offense out of whack, you want those. guys to be out there calm, cool, collected, and just going with the flow of the game, how they see the game, not saying I have to force it to someone. Tariq Hill has been phenomenal over the last couple years, but Tariq Hill is also one those dog number one receivers that can present some challenges, some management challenges. So, you know, I was looking for more after Tua, after Tariq went down, thought he was going to actually take his game up a notch, and that didn't happen. So that was surprising for me. But remember how they started off this year. Tyreek Hill, he was saying he wanted out. Then he said he's coming back. Then he wanted

out. And then he comes in. He apologized to his team. I'm working on my leadership and doing all of that. Tua says that he broke some relationships within, you know, not only the office, but the entire building. That's a big problem. So when we think about why guys, you know, aren't performing at a high level, sometimes it's about the things that's happened off the field, not on the field. He's part of the in-studio team for Netflix's NFL Christmas Day doubleheader broadcast Tony has said the Christmas Day is now a good in that seat baby he has said that it is now Christmas Day is now an NFL day it is no longer an NBA day I mean NFL is now the games aren't great okay I obviously Patrick Mahones isn't there the commies and the and the

Cowboys whatever but you look at the NBA they got a bunch of good games just feels like anytime the NFL's on we got to watch it there's a bunch of great games in the NBA but I'm going to be locked in the NFL Brandon what are you excited about being part of this coverage here because Netflix hasn't done this, and you haven't done exactly this. Two phenomenal brands coming together, right? Like the NFL, I mean, this is a, you know, it's a national holiday at this point every single Sunday.

So being a part of the NFL playing and now on the other side of it, covering it, and still having amazing relationships on that side of things, that's a huge honor, man. Sometimes you take that for granted in your youth, but looking back, it's like, man, I played in a national football league. I get to cover the national football league. and then Netflix jumping into the game.

Oh, my goodness, you got two beasts of brands and companies coming together, and I'm sitting right in the middle. So it's gratitude, right? And that's some of the things that I'm thinking about, like, you know, when we open up and you got to say certain, you know, I'm preparing already, like some of the things I want to say, and it's gratitude. Like, I had an opportunity to play on Christmas Day as a player.

You know, how many people were watching me at home on Christmas Day, catch a touchdown or catch a ball? Like, that's, man, wow, God is so good. And now doing it on the other side on Netflix, just gratitude, man. Just, you know, even what you guys are doing, man. Like you, you, you trailblaze this space for us, bro. You left traditional. You left linear to come on this side and say, no, I'm doing it this way because I think

it's better for me and my voice and what the fans need in the entrepreneur spirit that you had, bro. You understand, like you trailblaze this place for people like us, man. Just gratitude and just being thankful for what we have. Like, people don't know how hard it is to do this, right? Or to get these opportunities, right? Look at this. I'm messing around with your staff, but you got, you're employing how many people,

giving so many people opportunities. How many people have been launched off of your show, right? Too many people. So, Greg, no, I don't preach all day. Too many. Too many. Who's that guy? Who's that guy throwing us a love sign?

Who's that guy? We've got to go, unfortunately. No, no, don't go. He's a star. I love this guy. You are right that God is good. Good, but he could have been better. He could have given you a quarterback better than Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Go nights, Brandon. Good seeing you, Brandon. Thank you for making the time. I do appreciate it. 1,200 yards in 13 season, 900 catches, 6 Pro Bowls. He was damn good. And he would have been in the Hall of Fame if he had a quarterback. A quarterback.

One quarterback. Tony, how's the feeling there? It feels great. I was going to actually say that he's massive. I saw him in person and Dan. He is. He's big. Being in that room. He's hard. He's hard to cover. Brandon Marshall, I saw him at the Super Bowl in L.A. and I walked by and I was like, damn, I'm 6'4, 2.30. And I was like, damn, that guy's huge.

He was hard to cover. Holy shit. There weren't a lot of cornerbacks who could cover him. Oh, man. It's hotter on this side, by the way. It is, isn't it? There's more pressure here. Zad, you feel a little uncomfortable back there? He really bossed us around there. He moved things around. I didn't like that. You standing or you sitting back there? I can't see.

Yeah. There's a tear coming down. sounds as I'm. Mike is pissed off too. Mike feels disrespected. Who's that guy? Fan my ass.