The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Zas Dropped The Ball (feat. Nick Wright)

Episode Date: November 11, 2025

"I was playing in a rigged game in Milan..." Zaslow had a major scoop this morning and told everybody in the office about it, but still managed to get scooped. Plus, Nick Wright believes he can pu...t an end to gambling scandals and gives the shipping container a chance to win $ 2,500. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:29 The tequila. That invented tequila. Broximo.com. Please drink responsibly. Quervo. This is the Dan Levator show with the Stucats podcast. Nick Wright will be here shortly. I'm sure he has some thoughts on the Nico Harrison firing.
Starting point is 00:00:50 This is a tweet from Ian Begley. Heard several Mavs players this season have preferred to play on the road rather than playing home games due to the charge. due to the charged atmosphere as it relates to Nico Harrison. They weren't passing judgment on fans, more so just having a human reaction to atmosphere. The Mavs have played seven of ten at home. I cannot explain to you guys what a historic poisoning of a well this was that one man was made to be the scapegoat on and the face of when he's not the only one responsible for this. Do not allow new ownership to hide behind this person whose carcass they throw in the street
Starting point is 00:01:27 as a laughing stock because they traded away the most popular thing they've had in basketball since Dirk Nowitzky and maybe ever. They traded away a historic sports superstar bigger than all the ones on all the other teams in the markets that you've cared about. All of them. Jack Prescott is not this. Whatever you think, Jerry Jones is the Cowboys. The biggest thing in that market as a superstar athlete was this in its prime,
Starting point is 00:01:55 took you to the finals and it was going to be the beginning of growth. Ownership did that and there's a carcass in the street and it'll never work again and we will laugh at it because it will ultimately be responsible for this, but know that that responsibility, the power structure on that does not die at his doorstep. That goes well above him. The MAV's ownership has poisoned this and its fan base thrown away all of Mark Cuban's goodwill. All of it. Not a little bit of it. Everything Mark Cuban built there for 30 years, new ownership threw that in the street and let it. its fans eat it. And so don't let this man take this alone. This is top heavy ownership. This is everything that leads the Mavericks has desecrated the 20 years that came before it with this trade and this firing eight months later. This is the height of economic and executive incompetence. This is not over though. Like it's good right now. The fan base is happy. I'm sure that Nico Harrison's gone and they're not going to chant fire Nico anymore. But that anger is now just going to transfer to Patrick Dumont.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Like, this atmosphere in that building is not over. Maybe it would be a little bit better if Anthony Davis were healthy and actually playing. They're going to, maybe, you know, in six months when Kyrie Irving returns, it'll feel a little bit better.
Starting point is 00:03:10 But this team sucks. No, you have to hit on Cooper Flag. Like, and this can... Oh, but they are hitting on him. Like, he looks good. No, but this can swallow him. Like, this is how you build the next part of the story.
Starting point is 00:03:23 The only way to actually, and I'm not even going to say, I'm not even going to say repair or put balm on what this particular wound is because it's so emotional and sort of personal. Again, I just can't say it enough. Superstar in his prime that everyone cares about internationally, you just don't get the 10 years of promise of that. And so Cooper Flagg has to be something close to as good as him. It's the only way. It's not even balm. It just soothes a little bit. The scar of this will last Like, you wreck a generation of fans here. Like, you wound kids with this in a way that Cooper Flagg gets that crucifix.
Starting point is 00:04:02 It's a top-down situation, obviously, from the ownership, they have to sign off on the trade. Is there any sort of flack or any sort of like, hey, what's going on with Mark Cuban? I said that months ago. He didn't need to sell his portion of the team. I said that months ago that Cuban has completely skated in this scenario. He gets to sit there and play this victim. Oh, I wasn't consulted. I wouldn't have done it.
Starting point is 00:04:27 I didn't have any control. He sold the team to these people because he wanted the highest dollar value. That's fine. But he sold the team to these people who very clearly have no interest in basketball. There appears to be an ulterior motive, casinos, this, that. He chose to sell to these people. And now he sits there as if he's some kind of victim. Why don't you make sure you're the caretaker?
Starting point is 00:04:54 of the franchise. Make sure if you're going to sell the team to somebody, you're giving it over to someone who is going to take just as good care of the team as you did, or take by far the most money possible. And that's what he chose. And the bullshit of the year was like, oh, no, I'm going to still be involved in basketball.
Starting point is 00:05:11 No, you're not, buddy. You sold the team. You know who makes decisions? People that write the check. You got the check, it's over. There's nothing for you to say. They don't have to consult you for shit. Don't they need to trade Anthony Davis now
Starting point is 00:05:23 because with Nico Harrison gone, Anthony Davis is going to remain the face of all this. They should totally start over. They should. They should totally start over. Yeah, start over with Cooper Flag and go from there. Hello. All right. Before we get to Nick right here, can you give me Ethel Mermans?
Starting point is 00:05:38 Hello? And can you get me just some history of Ethel Merman as Greg Cody keeps the show in the demo that we've always wanted it in? He sounds like Ethel Merman. Get me Ethel Merman sounding like Ethel Merman. Hello. What is that? That is an old woman singing, and so as well is this. Hello.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Give me just the history of Ethel Merman real quick. I've got to get younger here on Greg Cody Tuesdays. Apple Merman, born in 1908, died in 1984, performing on Broadway, and anything goes, Annie Get Your Gun, Gypsy, and, of course, Hello Dolly. That's her classic, Hello Dolly. You kidding me? Ethel Merman, that kind of thing. Nick Wright with us now, and he's the whole. host of FS1's First
Starting point is 00:06:25 Things First. What's Right with Nick Wright is the podcast I keep urging you to listen to because he does it to does it with his son and it is it is charming, it's endearing, it's humanizing I don't think I don't I don't believe people get to see this side of you that often. Well
Starting point is 00:06:40 yeah so the why is that a shot at the viewership numbers of the pod because if if that's charming they get to see it quite often it's three days a week mass mass platformed but on that note, this is kind of a perfect synergy because you're talking about the show getting
Starting point is 00:06:58 younger, I'm about to make the show feel a hell of a lot older because I am not doing the podcast. Greg's going to love this with my son for the next few weeks because he is out because as of yesterday, he's on paternity leave, which means Greg Cody. I'm with you on on Team Grandpa. You and me, I need to brush up on the Ethel-Lermin news because we're not getting younger, boys. We're getting older.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Oh, congratulations. Grandpa, Nick Wright. Grandpa, Nick Wright. Man. How about that? I know, man. It's really gonna, it's gotta be so confusing to people that just casually drop in to this show
Starting point is 00:07:49 or my show or the pot or whatever. If I get, you know, reference as a grandfather and they're like, wait, the guy with the gambling problem and the jewelry who, you know, is like, that guy's a grandfather. Nobody understands it. I'll be honest, I don't totally understand it. But it is what it is. And so, yeah, so that's the big news. That's the as of, as of two days ago. And I got to think, I think I'm, I think the last grandfather on, no, Wilbon or Cornheiser, one of them's got to be, right? I'm not taking, I'm not being, that wasn't me being fresh.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Like, I don't know they're the, but I was going to say, am I, the first grandfather on daytime sports TV since your dad? Oh, so, well, okay, so you're not talking Lee Corso category. You want the grandpa, hold on, I thought you were feuding with Pablo and Mina. Now you want the grandpa demo? I want it all. I want it all. And by the way, listen, I'm not feuding.
Starting point is 00:08:51 I'm not feuding with Mina and I thought, I thought Mina's tweet this weekend was pitch perfect and really well done, and I'm very excited. I mean, on pins and needles, refreshing the feed for the only, you know, honest journalists left in America for the long-form episode on, so, huh, what is that Stephen A. Solitaire app all about? Listen, no sacred cows, I'm sure. I'm sure Pablo's furiously working on it. And I, listen, I know there's a lot of, he's got a lot of irons in the fire. But I mean, it feels like, it's like, is it gambling?
Starting point is 00:09:31 Is it not sports people? Listen, the Phil Mickelson texts are great and I'm all in for it. It gets a little stickier to do this story, but, you know, the journalism goes wherever the story is. I'm excited to hear the episode. Hi, Greg. How you doing, Nick? Hey, do you have the over or under on the, the delivery? delivery date for your uh well no i would have i mean yeah i mean that that that that bets in uh she was
Starting point is 00:09:58 she was a few days late um my wife's out there two days ago wait a minute what kind of question is that he just said as of two days ago he said it like guys that kind of thing don't worry about a duty that kind of thing i thought it was a pending birth i didn't know it was no gregg it's fine it's fine gregg don't worry about it buddy i appreciate he's just asking and you know what i was going to play along i was going to act like you know i had the over and I lost. I knew it was a mistake, but it doesn't matter. Greg, us old folks got to stick together. I hear you. I hear that. You look like my grandson. The hell's going on. I know. This is unbelievable. So that's the news, Dan.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Congratulations. I am thrilled for you, and I didn't realize that the poppy lane is open on being a grandpa publicly growing up in front of sports fans as a grandpa. But I actually want to tackle the thicket of the gambling stuff with you. because you are somebody who must be fascinated, like really riveted by everything that's happening here, from the amateurism surrounding Terry Rozier and Chauncey Pillips and just how buffoonish all of this is. The FBI, the NBA investigation, the mafia, all of it seems pretty dumb.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Then you have the baseball scandal, which gets less attention, and I'm not sure why when you're talking about, you're going to get lifetime bands there as well. one of them from one of the great closers in the game. How do you take the macro? And then there's the, and the poker piece, which again, I don't want Pablo knocking
Starting point is 00:11:29 on my door, but, and maybe I should respond to some of his text messages, bad job by me. But I mean, I, like, I read those indictments, the full indictments. And I'm like, oh, I recognize at least two of those names. Like the, and so,
Starting point is 00:11:45 like, the poker piece was real. Like, not, those are not games that I play in, but those are, but those are, you know, six degrees of Kevin Bacon, we'd be a couple degrees. But when you're reading the details on this, even the most amateur of poker players would know that those games were rigged away, rigged in a way that's not sophisticated. Like, the car, oh, I disagree with that. I disagree with that. I think the way that game, those games were rigged was super sophisticated. I think that any, I think that any
Starting point is 00:12:20 You know person that regularly plays poker for real money Knows hey One of the skills of being someone who plays cards for money is Being able to sense out if the game's on the level or not But there's so many there are a lot of ways people Dan and I know we can get to the the sports betting piece of this but just on the poker piece Because this is like super I I'm really in that
Starting point is 00:12:49 And it's one of the reasons So let me just back up a little bit real quick One of the reasons I travel all the way to Vegas And if I can't get to Vegas I go to Philadelphia Or that I play in that game From last month
Starting point is 00:13:08 That's too big for me Is because I want the certainty Of the following three things That the game is not being cheated that the game is going to get paid at the end of it and that the game is not going to be you're not going to be sitting in a card game and have the cops come in
Starting point is 00:13:33 because someone's either selling drugs out of one of the rooms or because it's in the illegal casino where they're taking a rake so the game that I play in in New York that's too big for me to play in really is totally legal because no one's taking a rake like you can play poker with your friends for $10 a man or $10 million a man and it's totally legal as long as the house is not taking a cut and so as whenever you venture outside of the casino you run the risk of different types of cheating the most common type of cheating is collusion which is you
Starting point is 00:14:12 me Greg the shipping there's seven of us playing together and six of us have done all said, hey, we're going to chop up each other's winnings and losings. And then poor Greg, so basically it's all of us against Greg. Like that is, and you can, that's a way to get someone, you get someone big in the game and they can't win because it's one on six basically. So that happens a lot and you got to be careful of it. There is, there is people, just two people having pieces of each other. you and I are in a game and you have 50% of my action I have 50% of your action so we're incentivized to have the other person do well which changes how we play which is kind
Starting point is 00:15:00 of okay but certainly not okay if it's not disclosed to everyone that happens and you've got to be aware of it victims known as quote fish yeah exactly what what what is being alleged here is the rigged shuffling machine is very sophisticated and scary and the marked cards is not sophisticated in that it's obviously been done for years but having it done on that level is surprising and so yeah like that is that's unrelated to the sports betting except for the fact gave you a little bit of a window that, oh, man, some of these guys might be in more money trouble than I thought and be putting themselves in worse positions than I thought. Quick time out here, talk to you about the official ticketing partner of the Dan Levitard
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Starting point is 00:19:41 I think I have to fix to the sports betting. What was the original question? Just talk about poker for 20 minutes? Well, this is the problem with him. And sometimes if you allow him... No, no, you didn't do a bad. No, look. That is...
Starting point is 00:20:06 Don't let them get to you, Nick. Nick. Hey, where's the day date, by the way? Nick, you did not do a poor job with him. that. That was absolutely good content that was super nourishing for the ill-informed as someone who comes from the inside of this world. The thing that I was saying that wasn't sophisticated is just when you're going. When the cards are landing the way they are, there's not a way to bet that the cards are going to be gutshots on the river and you get it right every time.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Like that seems super unsophisticated. But the next... Well, yes. So you shouldn't... So here's what I'll say. It's very quickly. And put me on a damn timer, Chris Cody. I thought I thought I was actually, you guys can do more Ethel Merman sound drops. I thought I was actually being helpful here. But you should not be able to be scammed more than twice by the same group. I played, I was in, God, dog it, where was I? I was in, I played in a game that I am certain was rigged in Milan. But I played in it once.
Starting point is 00:21:07 What was it giveaway? Um, the way, so I mean, I kind of caught him, but there's nothing I could do. Um, and that was, it was, it was in rounders, just like grabbed his hand. Was there a hangar? It was a private game in a casino, but it was private. It was in a casino. James Bond? I shouldn't have, I shouldn't have played. As soon as I, as soon as I got there and they're like, oh, there's a bigger game upstairs you can play in. I should have been like, that's a bad idea. But I was, I was an idiot. And I was winning a very little bit. And then I told him, I was like, Okay, I got one more round, then I got to leave. And second to last hand was one of these setup hands, like that you hear about, but those happened. Those happened in real, those happened just organically, or it could be a setup.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Where I get aces, someone else has queens, all the money goes in pre, and a queen comes out, and I lose. I'm like, God, dog it, you know, bad luck. And so I did not know it was rigged because of that. It was like it's bad luck. And I left, and then as I, about three minutes after. I love it. And I go to get my wife who's playing blackjack. I'm like, oh, man, I left my sweatshirt up there. And I went back. And as I'm walking back, I hear I'm all talking about it and
Starting point is 00:22:19 laughing. I'm like, God, dog, it's a bad job by me. It's like, it's a bad job by me. It's a bad job by me. But I did that to myself. I love the sentence, though. The sentence, though, I played in a game that was rigged in Milan. It really did. It did make him sound like James Bond. Did it not? Even though he's the sucker in the story. Yeah, no, I'm the sucker. Yeah, I'm the sucker. The other part of this, though, the, okay, outside of the poker. And you just, you took out Stephen A. Smith and you took out.
Starting point is 00:22:50 I didn't take out anybody. I'm just waiting for the only journalists left in America to, you know, listen, maybe that'll make cocktail parties a little uncomfortable at times. I just want the truth. But go ahead. Pablo Torre, do you have anything else for him? You've been very critical of his award-winning podcast. I've not been critical. I have not been critical at all of this podcast, actually.
Starting point is 00:23:10 I've been very complimentary. Critical of him. Critical of his high. I do. I have not. I have, guys, listen,
Starting point is 00:23:22 just like Pablo. I just call balls and strikes. And, you know, so do occasionally do I notice something like Pablo somehow, having fresh ready available on his phone, a New York Times screenshot from 2019 because his old Harvard
Starting point is 00:23:44 Econ professor got an obit when he passed and uses that when someone questions his credentials, I'm no economist, but I did take a semester of microeconomics and a semester of macro. Also, my professor was literally this guy and then just saved screenshot from the guy's New York Times obituary.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Do I find that adorable? Of course I do. Because everyone does. I just evidently, everyone's decided, man, that someone should say something to Pablo. We don't want to. I bet Nick will take care of it for us. So I will take on that burden. But the podcast is great and deserves all of the flowers and it has been fearless.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Which is, and so I just want to learn more about the Solitaire app. But you had a question for me about the prop betting before we get to your and my big bet, which I've set up beautifully. Yes, thank you. Outside of the poker elements of this that are fascinating to you, the prop elements of this, they're obviously going to get control of this. You're not going to be able to bet individual pitches anymore. And explain to me how we arrive at Emmanuel Class A over what is reported as $400,000. is risking his career for $400,000. I thought that some of these players made too much money
Starting point is 00:25:11 to be tempted by the prop bets. So I think there is a level of unsophistication from non-gamblers about how easy it is to flag those types of irregularities. And so I think it's as simple as victim, it's perceived as a victimless crime and how are you going to prove it? So I just think it's like ignorant,
Starting point is 00:25:35 too oh it is gonna be so easy to catch you I think you know I think that guy probably thought I you know I throw a bad first pitch all the time how prove it and so I so I think that is you know I think people don't realize that any market that there's typically you know very low volume on that all of a sudden has huge volume on it that always means there's inside information always and and so the the rub is here is is true pre massive legalized gambling there was there were more games particularly on the collegiate level that someone would be on the take on and we would not find out because there was not as there there wasn't a database of
Starting point is 00:26:25 the bets because it was done at bars and you know what I mean with bookies or whatever it is so it is true that legalized gambling has made it way easier and quicker to root out actual game fixing or you know a player and a college team they're favored by 17 and it's like okay I don't have to we can still win just not cover that stuff thanks to legalized gambling will be discovered instantaneously what what is also true is pre-legalized gambling you could not make these individual player prop bets they did not exist certainly first pitch certainly Terry Rozier unders and overs those didn't exist so how do we account
Starting point is 00:27:12 for that and I think it's very simple I think it's very I think there are very easy ways because I have said make them one-way markets which means only offer overs on individual player performance bets I that would fix a lot of this that also again I don't want to get two in the weeds but is really bad for the better and I don't want that because the thing a two-way market shows you is what the fair price is so if we set Steph Curry's total points at 25 and a half and the over is minus 140 and the under is plus 100 so you then see okay so there is a 20
Starting point is 00:28:05 Vig that it should be you know it minus 120 is where the equilibrium is you see how much the big is if you only have overs available to you you don't see what the fair market prices so I don't love that for the better for the consumer so I do think the work around Dan is this I think all of these places saying essentially for anything other than star place players the player prop market has very low limits like fifty dollars and you can because what they want is um what they want is uh parlays anyway because that's what everybody loves to bet these days that's what so you can do you could have 17 player props in a parley and still
Starting point is 00:28:59 have it so i think that is i think you just have to put very low limits on non-superstar player props. And the superstar is uncontaminated because there's too much to risk, too much money involved. It would cost too much to get in the game. Don Lebertard. This is the quickest it goes. Hey, this is the quickest it goes. Stugats.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Everybody, this is the quickest it goes. Yeah. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. Before we get to our bet, and before I get your thoughts on Nico Harrison being let go, because I really, you just can't let a guy you're going to fire eight months later make that trade, Nick. Well, I don't think they had any idea they were going to fire him. And I heard your guys blasting Mark Cuban. That's so unfair.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And, you know, I'm not, it's not even like I'm a huge Cuban fan, even though it does appear he and I have very similar feelings on the podcast. but I do I do think that if I had my family home that my family's lived in for 100 years and it's like you know what it's time
Starting point is 00:30:15 to sell the market's great and I sell it to an otherwise seemingly normal person and then three months later they lighted on fire I don't think it'd be fair for like my son to be like why didn't you see that coming dad
Starting point is 00:30:32 That's where we grew up. I'm like, well, I didn't think they were going to burn it to the ground for sport. Like, I don't think Cuban could have saw they're going to trade Lucid Ancich in the middle of the night because Nico Harrison is so bothered by the fact that there's someone in the organization more powerful than him. Yeah, your home doesn't have fans, though, Nick. Like, the only people care about the home are the people living in the home at the time. The franchise has millions and millions of people who care about it. My home has fans.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Yes, but he didn't sell it. to hold on he didn't he had no reason to think he was selling it to he didn't how would he anticipate if I sell the Mabs to the Adelson's who own casinos they are then going to put in charge the son-in-law who is then going to empower Nico Harrison who is then going to make the single worst trade in a hundred years of sports like I don't get what you're saying like it It'd been one thing if he's like, hey guys, I, you know, I'm selling the team to the Paul brothers and they're going to do, I'm selling the maps to Mr. Beast and he's going to start holding contest for who's going to be on the team. Then it's like, okay, maybe we've done wrong by our fans. He just sold the team to a totally normal, the type of people that buy teams.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Now, he sold the team to someone who doesn't give a shit about basketball and might have ulterior motives when it comes to their casino business. But, okay, again, I don't want to, I'm not really trying to argue, but I guess I don't know how to do anything else. There, those are the ulterior motives because of the casino business is in direct conflict with trading Lucanacic. unlike like so are you are you real so this is i am going to be serious about something for a moment i and i'm not accusing you of doing this but i really really don't like when people bat their eyes at dumbass conspiracies they don't believe because it aids an argument that they want to make if you are arguing that trading lucid onchich was part of a plot to move the dallas maverick and premeditated in all of it, then say that.
Starting point is 00:33:00 If you think that's as dumb as I think it is, then I don't understand the point you made about their casino business. No, I don't, there's no proof until that actually happens, so I don't really know about all that. But I do think that as a caretaker to a franchise, which is what Mark Cuban was, I think there's a responsibility that when the day comes at your hand and over the franchise, that maybe you make sure it's going to continue to be in good hands.
Starting point is 00:33:23 How do you do that? make sure that you're selling it to people who care. I mean, he decided to sell it to anyone who is offering the most money possible, which, of course, is his right. And by the way, and by the way, Nick, I mean, how silly is it to assume that he was still going to be the governor of the team? That, that I think is the biggest point. That part I agree with.
Starting point is 00:33:44 That part I agree with, even though it now seems like Jeannie Bus actually is going to be the governor of the team. I agree with that part, but I just, I don't hear the end of the, how do you, ensure that this person like one could argue just for whatever it's worth that the act of allowing Lucanacic to be traded shows a more not committed but involved owner than most teams have one would imagine that if it's just I don't give a shit about this asset I'm just adding it to my portfolio that the the marching orders would be just status quo it don't do anything crazy like I
Starting point is 00:34:31 again I think Nico Harrison was a madman but I don't think I think retrofitting it to Mark Cuban should have seen coming down the pike that if he sells it to the Adelson's they are going to value the Mavericks so little that they put in charge of it their son-in-law and he is then going to be enraptured by this GM who then, so all of those things have to happen and then that GM has to also say, I want to trade Lucanacic and be convinced not to tell anyone about it. Like that is, talk about drawing to an inside straight, that is, that is such an unlikely sequence of events. I think blaming Cuban for it's crazy. I just do. Nick, I agree
Starting point is 00:35:22 with you on those points. There's no way to see that coming. But when you do sell majority stake of the team and you're still nebulous in your basketball, like I'm going to still be kind of a part of this and be overseeing stuff, but then have something happened that went under your nose and now it's like, oh, no, I didn't see this. And you still own 27% of the team.
Starting point is 00:35:40 So you're ostensibly going into partnership with these people on they get to make the decisions and you trust them to do stuff. And he hired Nico Harris. Like Cuban, by the way, hired Nico Harrison. Correct. So all that to me is like, fair criticism. That part I agree with. I just think that we are, what we have is a fan base that has been murdered, murdered in a way. I can, I honestly think is nothing like, there's been nothing like it since
Starting point is 00:36:16 the dude who owned the Red Sox sold Babe Ruth because he wanted to make a play that I think that, uh, Ethel Merman was in, and we are looking at the murdered fan base. There is someone standing with a knife over it, over the body, and we're like, hey, who's the person that decided to ship those knives to the hardware store, and who's the clerk who sold it to them? It's like, guys, there is one villain here, above all else, and he's the guy who got fired an hour ago. We're going to let him go in a second. Always appreciate his time. We'll tell you again, even though his son is not on it, grandpa, Nick Wright over the next couple of weeks, has a wonderful podcast that he used to do with his son.
Starting point is 00:37:14 What's Right with Nick Wright back when he wasn't a grandpa? What is the nature of our bet? because I'd like to know how it is. Draft Kings has told me that they are working on a Corvette. All right, so here's what I propose. And this is, one is just for, because I want the whole shipping container rooting in the same direction for the biggest Chiefs regular season game
Starting point is 00:37:40 that they've played since Mahomes has been there because they don't play big regular season games prior to this year. If the Chiefs beat the Broncos by three and a half, I'll give the shipping container plus Tony. Who is it that I talk to every day when I first started to Tony, right? Lewis. Louis. Oh, plus Lewis.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Louis is in the shipping container. That's what I thought. I was confused. Those Latin guys are all looking to see. We're brothers. Okay, first of all, I've never seen Lewis. I don't know what he looks like. He kind of looks like you.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Oh, there he is. Oh, that's a good looking fellow. You're right. You can't imagine how happy you've made him. How much is this bet going to be? worth that you're no so listen i'm just it's not even a bet if that because i'll all be in the clear because i still feel bad and dan you don't put anything up if the chiefs beat the broncos by at least three and a half i'll give the shipping container plus louis 2,500 bucks to
Starting point is 00:38:35 distribute amongst themselves per person you're about no relax cody and cody you're about whoa cut out from the beginning you're you're you're really on a on a thin ice what i would like to do with Dan, but I don't know if now we have time to do it because it's such great content. I would like to do a Super Bowl champion draft, me versus Dan, and whomever ends up with the Super Bowl champion, the other person's got to give them the white Corvette. That's what I want to do. But do we have, I don't know how much time you have left in the show. Do we have time to pull that off? Yes, I think we can. We're not going to do the draft right now. We will do the draft next week. Next time you're on, we will
Starting point is 00:39:18 do it, but we will commit to that bet. But right now, what you're committing to is the shipping container is rooting five people, just because there was confusion about this last time. Yeah, it's the four people there today plus Lewis, so it's 500 bucks a man is what they'll get. Wow. Lewis is in, okay.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Just want to put the record straight. That means Mike Ryan is excluded. I'm just putting that out there. Yes. I mean, is he there today? Nope. So it's 500 bucks a piece is what we're saying. That's right. 500 bucks a piece this weekend. All they need to root for is the chief. three and a half. Okay. I will, I'll double that. All right. So,
Starting point is 00:39:52 oh. Oh. Wow. You're going to have a good Christmas this year. Are we, wait a second. Are we ready for the Broncos then? Plus the points? No. No. God. No. Who said that? Roy? What? What? We get a thousand dollars? See you later, Nick. Good talking to you. Now is a good time to remember where Tequila's story truly began. In 1795, Cuervo invented tequila. Quervo. What are you doing here?
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