The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Zas Sabotages Rachel (feat. Rachel Nichols)

Episode Date: March 23, 2026

"As a woman, I am very, very something about that." Rachel Nichols stops by to take a tour around the NBA, including the best results for the Knicks and the Lakers, Wemby's unprecedented excellence, and the 'sucky' 65-game rule, but as a woman, she also has very strong thoughts on Zaslow's willingness to ignore Jury Duty. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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So make every dish the greatest and eat the goat. This is the Dan Levatore show with the Stucats podcast. The Michigan coach, Dusty May, is going to join us tomorrow. Rachel Nichols is going to join us here in a few minutes to talk a little bit of basketball. I can't believe that I did not know that Michael Mann, the director of Heat, a very good director, makes big splashy things. I did not know that Miami Vice, the TV. show, not the movie he also made, but that he was not only the executive producer of Miami Vice, the television show, but I was not aware what Miami was nationally before that television

show. That television show, in some ways, helped start, make Miami an international city, and it was colorful, it was splashy, it was musical, it was loud, but I was not aware that that that television showed that Miami was a bit of a national wasteland considered much like swamp land. Yeah, it was. Yeah. And so Michael Mann is, he's also involved in the heat sequel, correct? The heat sequel, he wrote the source material, the book sequel. And yes, he is going to direct the upcoming sequel that has stars like Christian Bale, Leo,

DeCaprio attached to it. Goosebonous. And he's also going to do yet another Miami Vice movie, right? No, he's not attached to the Miami Vice movie outside of perhaps a producer credit because his involvement with the TV series. The director that is trying to bring Miami Vice back to the big screen because Michael Mann tried it. And, you know, the director's cut is good, but there was a whole bunch of things that went

wrong with the filming of that. Mike, you know, in a place where you get some mojitos? I know a great place. Colin Farrell, Jamie Fox, that movie was supposed to be, it was much anticipated and it was supposed to be good. It was plagued by a bunch of shit in the background. It was plagued by Michael Mann, who's an insane person too. And I think Esquire did like a whole write-up on what went wrong with the filming. Jamie Fox left the project because of something that went real sideways in a favela somewhere in South America

because Michael Mann's one of these authentic guys. But the director that is trying to bring Miami Vice back is Joe Kaczynski. who directed Top Gun Maverick and F1, which was nominated for Best Picture. And the stars that are reported to be attached to it are Michael B. Jordan and Austin Butler, which, I don't know, I think Austin Butler might be a little too weird. But we'll see. I don't know which one he's playing. Crooked or Tubbs.

It could be anybody's guess. Oh, the flip-pop. But the most interesting thing that has been reported about this reboot is that Tom Cruise is being circled as the big heavy. The villain? villain. And the director, who's worked with Tom Cruise, helped save cinema as we know it, alongside Tom Cruise with Top Gun Maverick. He'd be able to convince Tom Cruise to do this, I think.

Dude, Tom Cruise, I've learned this during the Oscar season here. He loves Michael B. Jordan. They were telling me that he, in the middle of promoting his own movie, he stopped to promote sinners. Tom Cruise, for those that know him, I don't. I do know people that talk to Tom Cruise. You don't know Tom Cruise? I don't know Tom Cruise.

I don't know if you knew that. Is that you know about that Tom Cruise? I know about him. But Tom Cruise is very much a caretaker of the industry and takes real deep care of people that he's worked with. The holiday cake is like a thing of legend. Yes. Apparently.

Tom Cruise is a legit mentor to many in Hollywood. I've told the story before. Mo Dachiel, good friend of mine. His sister is Tom Cruise's agent. And when a lot of stuff was happening over in Gaza, she tweeted out Free Palestine. And they tried a railroad her. And Tom Cruise said, you do that, I'm leaving. So, like, to me, he's always going to be A1 in my book.

As someone who looks out for the little people and looks out for people, for any other Hollywood star, it would have been so easy to be like, well, that's a controversy I don't need and just kind of kicked it to the side. but he was loyal to her. And so for me, I'm always going to have a lot of respect for him. Do people generally know how close Tom Cruise before Tropic Thunder was to falling completely out of favor with the industry? Really? Oh, it was. Because of Scientology?

The Scientology, the Oprah thing, the Katie, Katie, what was it? Kitty Holmes. For those who don't know that story, he goes on Oprah and jumps up and down on the couch, talking about how in love with kitty homes. And there's been a lot of reporting about Scientology. He had the Matt Lauer interview, which he came out better. Than Matt Lauer? Yes.

Eventually. He rebounded better from that interview than Matt Lauer did. But Tom Cruise at the end of Tropic Thunder, there are any number of people who watched Tropic Thunder and didn't know leaving the theater that Tom Cruise had been in Tropic Thunder. He chose a role with Ben Stiller. He chose a role where he was a fat guy with Harry arms, balding. Was it Les Grossman was this character?

A movie executive that was totally obnoxious. Stole every scene. Yeah, he was great in it, but there were many people who saw the movie left the theater and didn't know that Tom Cruise had been in the movie. I didn't know it was the credits. I was like, which one was Tom Cruise? Is that right? Swart of God.

And so I'm pretty sure, though, that that movie resurrected Tom Cruise, like that he was very close to not being able to get substantive work. So he was supposed to actually play Ben Stiller's agent. He was supposed to play Matthew McConaughey's role. And Tom Cruise read the script and said, actually what you guys need is a slimy studio executive. And obviously, Tropic Thunder is a very inside baseball movie. But I'm sure with everyone involved, like, of course, that's, you're like, of course, has to be this guy because they've all dealt with that guy one way or another. Rachel Nichols next.

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Wearing clean underwear every day. Well, that's just a personal decision. Brushing your teeth. Obviously smart, but not a rule. Never pee-pee on an electric fence. Okay, maybe there are two rules. But the one that is 100% that I insist on completely, Yeagermeister must be drank ice cold.

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Don Lebatard. My algorithm on Instagram is dance, all boobs. Stugats. It's a good algorithm. This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats. So Zaz says that I'm a sucker for going to jury duty, for handling my civic responsibility. He says he always takes his jury duty paperwork and throws it immediately into the trash.

There have never been any consequence. that he knows of. He's never been to jury duty. Look at Rachel laughing here at just how un-American Zaslow is. Nobody wants to go to jury duty, but it's a civic honor and responsibility. Well, actually, Whittingham likes to go to jury duty. But Rachel, you're saying what to Zaslo here. Well, I just want to know what they asked you that you got selected. What were the questions that they were like, this is a fine upstanding citizen? Well, I wasn't. asked any questions. I've never actually... Your assistant was asked. I've never done jury duty, but I've always gone and marched and sat in the sad room and just sat there for several hours,

and then they let me go. It's not for me. And as a media member, they're not likely to select me anyway under almost any circumstances. And I, so I've never actually served, but I get summoned way too often. Like it happened. They can do it every, they could do it once a year. And so it happens to me, it doesn't feel random. You've been, you've done jury duty? Would you dare to ignore jury duty, Rachel? I went through some years in my 20s where I ignored jury duty. I got to say, I was once got the thing in the mail for grand jury, which is just a nightmare, right?

If they pick you, it's like two months, you know, on these like longer trials. But now as a responsible, fine, upstanding citizen like yourself, Dan, I do reply. I've never gotten picked, though. So I just, I want to know how they picked you. because normally, if you want to, while they're asking you questions, you can get out of jury duty. Just say, I believe our criminal justice system is really unfair, and I just don't think anyone should be penalized until we fix it. That's a good one. Rachel described two months doing a grand jury.

That's like doing Pablo's show, one episode of that. It's like sitting in a grand jury. I can't believe Zaz is willing to put his name on the fact. Whatever. Come at me, bro. What's going to happen? Nothing's going to happen. Nothing.

They can put out a warrant for you. For what? Which means you can do the show from jail, which could be like a whole new record. Wow, we should do that. Come get me. Come at me. I don't think they can. Is that something that they can send?

Can he just say I didn't get it? I didn't get the mail. Yeah, I didn't get it. Nobody's ever done that before, right? That's not anybody. Don't think they have anything after that. The loophole. Never got to me.

Mail never gets lost, right? Never got to me. Jeremy, look up for me, please. What's the worst possible punishment the government can put on you in the event? that you're a fraud about jury duty. They've got their own problems to deal with, and you're going to come after me for missing one six-minute jury trial. It's a break.

Well, it's not six minutes. Like, they want you to sit in a room. Why do you need a break? My commitment today, this is what I had to do today because I was supposed to have it, and I postponed it to April 8th. They told me when I got there, expect to be here till five. I got there at 8 a.m., and they said, expect to be here till 5 p.m.

to see whether or not you're selected. Damn. Sazlo sitting here still staring defiantly at this government. You can be put in contempt of court in the state of Florida. And a warrant may be issued for your arrest where you could serve up to 10 days in jail. Well, that part. That part. That part. That part. I have a tip. I have a tidbit for you. My mother-in-law is in New York when you get there and they give you the instructions for jury duty and they make you watch a video.

My mother-in-law does that. I love that the way you described that occupation was just drawing with your fingers, a picture frame. I had it as a TV. My mother is a picture frame. Hey, yeah, come on, Dan. That you watch. You know, I've never, again, I've never served, so I've never made it to that step. I have responded, however, I have shown up, but then I have been, you know, kicked aside for real more responsible citizens.

It's not for me, Dan. You've mentioned that. The Lakers, I believe everyone who knows basketball for the entirety of the season has been saying of the Lakers, they absolutely cannot win playoff games playing defense the way they do. However, the Laker team that I have watched play the last three or four games, I'm wildly impressed by everything that they're doing, doing against pretty good teams. I mean, Orlando and Houston and Miami on the road, they were impressive in all of those games. your appraisal of the Lakers, Rachel, is what? Well, I pick them to be third in the conference, so I'm feeling pretty good about myself right now

because most people pick them to be fifth or six. Look, this is a team with so much offensive firepower. Sometimes that's the defense, right? You can get out of any situation. That becomes the defense. Also, they've been running a lot of his own, which during the regular season is pretty effective because teams aren't used to it.

They don't have a lot of time to prepare for these regular season games, and you walk in and you throw them a defense, that they're not used to seeing. And you saw especially against Houston, it just gets guys really flummoxed and they don't kind of know what to do out on the court. Obviously, the playoffs are a different story, though. You have plenty of time to prepare for an opponent.

You play them, you know, day after day after day, that kind of thing. So that'll be some of the question of do they stand up. But here's the thing, and you guys saw it in Miami. Even when LeBron was at his peak, there are times where he's just not his focus defensively. But you know when he is all of the time is during the playoffs.

So his defense in particular, particular, I always figured was going to pick up this spring, regardless of how old he is, regardless of how those three are on the court together. But yeah, I mean, look, they don't play defense like the Oklahoma City Thunder. And eventually, I think that's going to stop them if they play the Thunder in the second round, you know, that might be the end of them. But I think they're fine to go a couple rounds in the playoffs, at least. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar played late in life because he could make the skyhook against anybody at any age.

but what I'm seeing from LeBron James has no human precedent. Like I really don't understand how he's able to do that. Even if you were to go the route of saying, well, it must be modern science or pharmaceuticals. And Tom Brady and Serena played well late. I still don't have context for what he's presently doing. Can you give me any history of the game? Can you give me anything that suggests the oldest player in the league should be having a triple double when he's down? here in Miami?

Six dunks. The night before the triple double, he had six dunks. I mean, that's insane for someone his age. So many of the guys we've worked with as analysts are in their late 30s. And you want them to go do a dunk, like as part of a segment or something. And they're like, oh, my back. I don't do that anymore. I mean, Vince Carter used to be like that.

He's like, oh, I don't dunk anymore. LeBron had six dunks. And then they, you know, got to Miami at four in the morning. And then he had that triple double is just insanity. There is no equivalent. We can say no, no, no, no human body ever, correct? That is a human body unlike any human body there's ever been. Not that I have ever seen.

And to your point, look, whatever is helping him get there, whether it's physio or anything else, like you still have to be the guy who can do that. And we have seen at every stage of LeBron's career, yeah, no one else can do that. And we're just seeing it now in a way that no one else can do that, not just in the league, but through history. I mean, it's incredible. Rachel, what do you make of Luca Donchich's 16 technical foul being rescinded so he could play tonight against Detroit? You know, it's interesting.

He's had a lot of texts rescinded to not get to this point. I'm curious if at some point in the playoffs we're going to see this issue flare up because we all, of course, remember what happened to Draymond Green in the 2016 finals. And a lot of people sort of misremember that as, oh, he got suspended. for the scuffle that happened at court level and sort of, you know, them rolling on the ground. And that's not worth of one game suspension. It wasn't worth the one game suspension. He just got a tech. And it happened to be, I believe, his eighth tech, I mean, is that right, in the playoffs? Yes. And yeah, so when you get your eighth tech in the playoffs, you have to miss a game. And him missing a game was the NBA finals. And it turned around a big chunk of that series. So, you know,

I think that's the danger with Luca is, you know, he can't have. help himself. And I've asked JJ throughout this season. I've said, you know, have you talked to him? He's like, that's a work in progress. This is his answer all the time. And we're just going to have to see how much he can control himself. Even in the Mavericks run to the finals, he did not get suspended for tax. He did not reach number eight. But he got, you know, he got text throughout that playoff run. Rachel, I'm curious because I feel like it's been a big topic this year, Luca complaining, Luca technical files, Luca with the officials.

And from my perspective, like, well, that's who he's always been since he came in the league. Is it actually worse or getting worse? Or is it just a factor of people in L.A. are discovering this part of him. Yeah. I mean, he's on TV more and, you know, highlights go,

there's more highlights of him. I mean, there's always been Luca highlights on TV and on your phone. But when he was playing in Dallas, the visibility is just, it's never as high as for when you play with the Lakers or the Knicks when they're rolling. And, you know, I think more people are seeing it across the country. More people are seeing it in L.A. just every time they go out and play the way they haven't before. And when they're losing games, right? And there's been patches this season. The Lakers have lost

a string of games. You know, Luca tends to do this more. He feels more under pressure. He sort of falls back on old habits. And then you have the combination of the Lakers losing a lot and Luka doing this a lot. And then Lakers fans suddenly are like, ah, this guy's killing us. I just said that. that my impression of the Lakers fan was pretty good. I just want to say that. It's very good. Winy, you got to be whineer. I didn't think it was very good, actually. Not that it was good.

You're a professional broadcaster. You know how to do polished. I want your assessment here. Pussycat dolls are getting back together. There are three of them on the Today Show, and this looks like a giant choke here. What happened here? What's your assessment?

After they found out you guys were coming back as a trio, not as the original group. How did you arrive at that decision? Well, I mean, listen, we are just, we are like weird so as women today, I mean, it has been an ever-changing lineup. And, you know, this is what it looks like now in 2026. You never know what comes next. And I think ultimately we've got to protect our peace. And when something like the Pussy Cat dolls has so much history, we have ruptured in the past.

She's still frozen. She's rigged mortis. She's still frozen. I don't think that's rigor mortis, but what's your assessment there professionally, Rachel? Wasn't there a Miss America contestant who did this that like it went around the internet for a long time where she just, every word of out of her mouth was like peace, peace? You know, I think it's important that we have world peace.

The question was about like some economic issue or something. She's like, I really think it's important we have world peace. And then she couldn't find her way and she kept talking about world peace. I don't know. We've had presidential debates that sound like that, to be honest. So let's not, you know, let's not go out too hard on a pussycat dog. Come on. What are we doing?

How are you rooting for, well, you can't root necessarily, but is Wemby winning this year good or bad for the sport, given that if he wins this year, he's likely to keep winning? You mean winning the title? Yes. Okay, winning defense player of the year, winning MVP, which he's up for. I think it's nothing but good. I have been super high on Wembe since before he was drafted. I got a lot of flack for saying before he was drafted, I think this kid is going to end up being a top 10 player of all

time. I have stuck with that. Less people are giving me a hard time now, which is good. Obviously, all of that statement is barring injury. But I just, I think what this kid can do is so different from what we've seen anyone else be able to do. And then he, in addition to those physical skills, he is one of the most sort of mentally focused, interesting, curious guys I have ever seen come into the National Basketball Association. I mean, if you have a guy who's that thirsty for learning, who's that receptive, who's that curious to find new things,

who's that dedicated to what he does, and you look, life may come into play at some point. But right now all that kid does is play basketball. He reads instead of, you know, watching TV or playing video games. His teammates try to get him to play video games. And he's like, no, I'm good. And it's not that fake reading some players do where, like, the first page keeps getting opened and nothing else. He plays chess in Central Park.

That's a $5. Zaslo. He's not listening to it all. He's just watching Instagram rules. That's not what I'm doing. You know what? I'm sorry. I mean, you got to.

get out of here. We know about that algorithm. The hell was that? How was the jury duty? Ponder penalty, two minutes, delay a show. You can't be not listening to Rachel talk so much that you're just watching videos on the internet and not even hiding it. That show was blaring. I heard a jet two holiday thing.

It's unbelievable. Make sure he pays. Should I feel about that? He hasn't been paying the fine. Offended. I mean, it's very easy. It's very easy to pay the fines. I feel more.

wounded. I feel unloved. I feel, you know. No, he's a Charlotte and don't don't pay him. No, never mind. He is a Charlottin. That's true. I feel like the middle pussycat girl. I don't even know what to say. I'm so, I'm so.

As a woman. As a woman. As a woman, I am very, very something about that. Don Lebertard. John's as Lord. Stugats. He's all smile. to LeBronzac.

This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. Rachel, as you know, I'm responsible for pressuring the NBA over a decade to get the All-Star games out of cold small markets, and we finally made that happen. All right. My next, my new crusade is the 65 game rule. We've got to get it up out of here. Dude, you know, you and I have talked about this on the air before.

I think this is the most insane thing. It's kind of like tanking, right? they're trying to solve the wrong problem. They're like, why are these teams playing so badly? Let's penalize them more for playing badly. The reason people tank is because they have to. They have to because there are no other good ways to get better if you're a bad team, especially in a smaller market.

Fix that and you will fix tanking. Nobody is like dying to lose for nine months straight and have their fans be pissed and teach young players bad habits. Solve the real problem. In this case, the 65 game rule was brought into effect. because player participation was sucky, frankly. That's a technical term. And they had guys sitting out big TV nights

and Saturday night, you know, ABC, and all three of the most important guys aren't playing. And they were like, TV networks are mad. They storm the NBA offices. The NBA office takes that to the owners. And they're like, yeah. All righty.

Did we lose her? That was fun. We might have lost you, Rachel. We definitely lost her She's been taken over. What part is it? Zaz will have something back there. 100%

Did Zaz sabotage this entire thing? I think she's back now. Yeah, you're here now. Go ahead. He turns into a monster. I'm here. I'm here. Yes, yes. Wait, first he's watching Instagram

and then you guys move me. And then he pulled the plug on you. Yep. He pulled the plug. In brilliant thought. And he's also a cuck. Everybody knows I'm not a cuck. I'm not a cuck. Everybody knows. You were, you were weaving a tapestry that he interrupted. Please continue, Rachel. He's not a cuck. Everybody knows that.

The 65 game rule was brought in because player participation was sucky, because guys were sitting out big TV games. So they were like, let's bribe the players into playing more by saying they can't have their awards if they don't play 65 games. Guess what? That's dumb. The awards have nothing to do with player participation. These are two completely separate things. To link them together is basically ripping apart some of the integrity of the game. These awards are how we judge who are the best players in a certain year. And you can be one of the best players like Kate Cunningham. You're going to tell me that the all-MBA team is going to go out for this year and Cade Cunningham won't be on any of the first, second, or third team. And someone 25 years from now is going to look

back at the record of this year and they're thinking, yeah, I guess Cade Cunningham didn't do anything. Rachel, come on, man. 10. 10 of the 15 all-NBA players from a season ago are either guaranteed not going to be all-N-B-A or in serious jeopardy. 10 out of 15, Dan. So we're talking, it's not just about

we're going to look and say, oh, how is Kate Cunningham not all-N-B-A? It's also going to be like, hey, how did Peyton Pritchard make all-N-BA or whoever someone's going to make all-MBA who was not one of the 15 best players? Just for playing 65-5. playing 65 games. It's ridiculous.

And it's also the way we judged players across eras. I think that's one of the things you get lost here. For all of the lazy, who's better Michael Jordan, LeBron James debates that, you know, people tend to start, it's hard to answer that question because you are watching players who play in different eras with different rules, with different, you know, physical knee surgeries and all of that kind of stuff. All-MBA is the way you can do that. If a guy made all-MBA eight times among his peers in his era, he made it eight times.

And then a guy 25 years later makes all-MBA 10 or 12 times in his era against his, you know, compatriots with his rules. That's how you can say, man, this guy might be a little bit better than that guy. That's it. That's the only thing we have that sort of is a way to test across eras. And they're screwing with it. And I hate it. I absolutely hate it. I've been saying that Jalen Brunson is the most beloved player in the history of the New York Knicks

because of what he's doing at his size specifically, but I've also been saying you cannot win the title if your best player is a player of that size. Over the last 30 games, the Knicks have the best defense and the best net rating in the NBA. Half of those 30 games have come against the top six teams in each conference and they're eight and five in those games. Do you believe the Knicks are better than they were last year? and do you believe that they are a legitimate contender to get to the finals? Because I don't believe they're a legitimate contender to win. Look, they're different than they were last year. Last year, that team got to game six of the Eastern Conference Finals.

Like, whatever you want to say about them, about, oh, he only played six guys and very predictable and all of that stuff, guess what? You know how I know that that was a good look for that team? Because they got to game six of the Eastern Conference finals. That's it. That's the answer. So until this team does that, I can't say they're better. They're wildly inconsistent the Knicks.

Like they'll go on a five-game winning streak. They'll go on a six-game losing streak. They'll go back on a 10-game winning streak. I don't know if that is going to get you to the finals or even to the Eastern Conference finals over time. And I really believe in Boston this year. So it kind of depends on when they run into them too. I mean, a lot of this, how far will they get in the playoffs conversation is, hey, where do they

hit that big team in the bracket? Do the Knicks hit the Boston Celtics in the second round? did the Lakers hit the Oklahoma City Thunder in the second round? There are some matchups where you can say, that's the one that's going to get them. And if it comes early, it comes early. How do you do birthday parties? The twins have one coming up.

Do they not? Are you a good party planner? Oh, they just had one this weekend. We had 27 girls over at our house, 27 14 and 15-year-old teenage girls at my home at one time. The decibel level was so high. I almost felt like, you know those people on the plane who bring baby onto the plane and they like bring little like packets of cookies and stuff for their neighbors because they're like oh please don't get mad at us we have a baby i this

morning feel like i have to go to my neighbors and bring them cookies or something like that to apologize for the sheer volume that was going on in my backyard yesterday sound like a gaggle of geese like what is the what does it sound like it's just they talk talk talk to talk to talk and it goes over each other and then over each other it's like a jet engine taking off for two and a half hours. You shouldn't do it. Nobody actually listens. I would say if you have 30 teenage girls that you have to do something with, you know, take them to a movie

theater where they can be quiet. We made an unforced error here just having them in our backyard. Fox Sports, Sports Illustrated, all the smoke. She's a long time NBA reporter, host, and analyst. She's also an Emmy Award winning journalist. How many Emmys have you won? Because Jeremy loves to say that he put the Emmy and Jeremy.

How many of those of you want, Rachel? Is it bad to tell you? I don't know offhand. It's multiple. That many. I'm sorry. You win. It's a great humble brag.

These old things. And a hair flip. I can't even count. And a hair flip. I don't know. Wait, wait. Did you guys talk about what BAM said after the Lakers game after they lost the Lakers because that was one of the best humble brags I've ever seen?

That's so easy to score 80s. Right? I loved it. I was like, I know how good it was what Luca did because, I mean, man, it's so hard to score 80, 83. Like, I mean, it's just, it was perfection. I would do that every day of the rest of my life. Every scenario I could bring up the number 83, I would bring it up. I would change my birthday to 1983 just to remind everybody.

Rachel, good talking to you. Thank you for stopping by. Hey, guys. Before we get to the postgame show here, can you just give me? a sound please from the Twins Spring Training broadcast. It's a good start for the twins here in the fourth inning. You ever seen Buck with his pants down?

Uh, no. Like his shorts? No, like he's got, he doesn't have his no socks showing. Ah, I see what you're saying. Oh, that way. It's in baseball when you, I mean, you seem confused.

Pants up, pants down, you know the stirrups where they show you. Also, you could just change your birthday. August 3rd. Hey!