The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Indiana Fever’s Syd Colson Talks Getting To Know Caitlin Clark, ACL Injuries, Brand Identity & More!
Episode Date: October 9, 2025Ros sits down with two-time WNBA champion, two-time WNBA Commissioner's Cup champion, and NCAA Champion, the Indiana Fever’s own Sydney Colson! Together, they reflect on the Indiana Fever’s season.... Were they cursed by the city of Phoenix? How does humor help her during ACL rehab? What has it been like getting to know Caitlin Clark? Then, Sydney gives Kelsey Mitchell her flowers. She explains where her endurance comes from throughout a rollercoaster of a career. How did Sydney find her lane? How does she deal with the haters? What was it like performing standup at WNBA All-Star weekend? Finally, Sydney breaks down how she is using fashion to meet the moment and build her brand outside of basketball. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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I'm Ros Gold on Wode, and I am coming to you from our studio in Los Angeles, and we have a very special episode for you this week.
We have an exclusive interview with a two-time WNBA champion, also a two-time commissioners' cup champion.
She's won a championship at the collegiate level
and NCAA champion with Texas A&M.
She's a comedian.
She's the face of the league, or one of them.
She's my girl, Sid Colson.
What's up, Sid?
What's going on?
What's up, Cros?
Always going to talk to you.
Thank you for having me.
You know, I think there's so many things to talk about,
I mean, including the ACL.
But let's start first with just the special season
you guys have had with the Indiana fever this year.
I think it can be summed up by your end
season, Instagram post. Let's take a look at this post from you, Sid. And in the caption,
you said, genuinely enjoyed this team and what we did on the court and in the showers. You're so
silly. I knew in the off season that God was placing me where I needed to be, to grow, and learn
some necessary lessons. And that's exactly what happened. And that's a beautiful post. And actually,
the comments have me rolling. Let's just look at the comments, remind her, because I'm screaming,
because your teammates are remiss.
Not Caitlin Clark chiming in twice.
She says, Sid, I'm thankful for your aunt, Sid, Auntie, Tasha Howard with four hearts.
But look at Lexi Hull.
Love you, Sid.
Showering just won't be the same this offseason.
Yo, y'all are really comedy.
But, I mean, so just to throw it back to you, there's clearly so much love for your team.
There's a huge free agency on the way.
this roster may not ever look the same again.
So for you, like, what made this team so special
and one to remember in your career?
You know, in the offseason, it was obviously like a tough decision for me.
I've been with the Aces for so long,
and we did some amazing things together as a team.
And like I said in the post, I could just feel, you know, God.
You know, when you could just feel like something's,
you need to get uncomfortable like you're being pushing a direction and because it makes you
uncomfortable kind of don't want to do it I think the the older I've gotten the stronger my faith
has gotten I kind of I run to the uncomfortable honestly because I know on the other side there's
going to be something some lesson that I needed and and that was what happened this season like
nobody was expected me to be on this team honestly we know what what the what the views are of this
organization from from the outside um but i knew enough people in it to know that we could do something
special and that we could potentially change some some minds and some views and um it was it was good
like just being with another team being in another locker room i think when you leave from a
situation you've been in for so long you're like am i going to be cool with as cool with you know
a new group of teammates but that's just what life is you you figure it out
You get a new environment and you adjust and you get acclimated.
And we did something really special for us to have been together for just a matter of months and not fully healthy, everybody at the same time.
So it was fun.
It was really fun.
And I think the Commissioners Cup championship gave us, like, even more confidence that we could go on and win a championship.
And I think we would have had we stayed healthy.
Yeah.
You know, people pointed to your voice as one in the locker room that everyone listened to.
that you were one of the main leaders for the team.
You know, people trusted you.
Taking on that role, what was it like trying to overcome some of the hurdles?
And was there a hurdle this season that was, like, that you guys, like, rocked y'all,
like almost was so tough to really stay together from?
Yeah, I mean, from the outside, I think everybody can see the different types of adversity that hit our team.
And I don't know, we just found a way.
We got a lot of personalities on our team, and there's a lot of joking around.
So when hard times we're hitting, we were just, like, making jokes laughing,
because honestly, some stuff was just, what can you do?
What can you say about some stuff?
You just got to get closer together, and I think we did that.
I think it showed it in our play, and the environment was positive.
It's just we got played with injuries, but even though the injured players,
like we still tried to make it a point to to be around for practices to still be lending our
voices to give whatever advice and wisdom we could even though like we weren't able-bodied you know
yeah it seemed like humor was therapy for you guys um what what was it like honestly
when you tore your ACL wrapping your head around that one
That was just nuts.
I think, and once I was falling down, I was, like, looking at my knee.
Like, I felt something, but I was also seen it.
And immediately, I reverted back to college when I toured, and I was like, this isn't good.
But, you know, I was trying to stay positive, but in your mind, like, you know what it is when something, when a bad injury happens, especially if you've had it before.
But, shoot, like, everybody was joking.
Phoenix cursed our team.
the place, the city of Phoenix, we lost four bodies, I think, to Phoenix.
And it was just something that we could laugh about.
I mean, we even lost the staff members.
Like, what?
When did that happen?
You know what I'm saying?
But it was just one of those things.
You just, once again, use humor to keep it pushing and still try to be there for the team
as best you can.
Yeah, I mean, you are so silly because you actually went live on your ACL surgery or coming
out of it.
What inspired you to do that, girl?
Lucky, I really wanted me in TV to do an episode of our pot coming out of it, but they were
like, yeah, the drugs will have worn off by the time you get home.
So you probably can't do that.
I was all right.
Well, I'll just, I'll go live.
And I love seeing you and Caitlin Clark's relationship.
You know, you guys are always cracking jokes on social media, on your live.
And obviously, she's a game-changing player for the league.
So, like, what, what was, what has it been like, you know, getting to know her, her humor and seeing firsthand all that's coming her way?
It was, it was cool, being on a team of her, getting to see her in another light was really cool.
I think over the course of her career, I think, you know, we haven't had many instances where we've seen like Caitlin.
Angel page, like players come in with the sort of notoriety that they had, the sort of money that they're making, the attention, everything.
It's a lot for a young person to be dealing with on top of pressure to do well as a basketball player, to lead your teams, all of that.
so it was it was good to be able to see like a lighter side of her you know i think especially
unfortunately when she was injured you're having to adjust your mindset you're having to get
mentally tougher because i think she had like a bad injury before so now you're having to watch
your team from the outside is still you know i would be talking to her a lot about you know make
sure you're still being vocal.
You know, you don't want to
lose this time
with your teammates, and because
you're injured or sideline,
you're not still using the opportunity
to lead or
to grow relationships. Don't let
it be a wasted season just because
you can't physically contribute.
And I think
her desire
to become a better leader
and
you know, to come back because there were
times where maybe, you know, she thought she was coming back and then it wouldn't happen
or another, and like little thing would happen that turned into a big thing.
But to see her, her fun side, I think that was the most important part, to see her
being jovial and lighthearted and having fun with her teammates.
I don't think it was like a side that people saw a lot last season.
And so I would just be telling her, like, you know, more of that.
I'm glad she had, you know, a veteran like you to be in her ear.
And as I said, like every player on that team kept pointing to you as a voice that people listen to.
But my question is, how did Stephanie White prepare you guys to keep new players were coming into the system and you kept having success?
Like, I don't even know where that happens.
The importance was that Steph and our assistants were able to get new players on the same page with us quickly.
and have them buy in quickly to we're going to play defense, hard,
we're going to share the ball, and we're going to play as a team.
And I think most teams that have a coach that demands that out of them,
like you find success at some level.
Yeah.
I got one last for you about the fever here.
And I think it's just you have to finish with Kelsey Mitchell.
What's most important to you about the season Kelsey Mitchell had literally playing until her wheels fell off?
I've been so impressed with Kelsey from like afar and then when I got to play with her at athletes
like an athlete's unlimited when we were teammates there I would I would just like
shoot with her before and after like practices if we were on the same team that week
once I got here doing the same thing like shoot we'll have shoot around she'll stay after
to get shots up with with Karima um
and I would always make sure to just tag along with her
because I was just, I've always been impressed by her work ethic
and this girl just, she plays hard on both ends.
There have been so many seasons where she hasn't gotten the respect
or the recognition that I think was owed to her.
What she did this year was extremely impressive to me
because this girl deals with doubles,
double teams she was already impressive last year but found a way to do even more this year
and I just I look at her like what is it that you're going to do next season like what
are you going to I don't know how do you elevate from here but I know she found a way this
year to become even more focused defensively and I don't think that got enough credit like
Like, people don't, they don't attack Kelsey on the defensive end.
Like, she's going to hold her own, even when it's bigger matchups.
And I don't know, I'm just, I'm constantly impressed by her.
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I don't think.
it's as well known that, you know, your path here is hard.
You've had to overcome quite a bit, you know, to get where you're at.
And there's been a lot of starts and stops or reinventions of yourself, if you will.
I'm just going to point it out for those watching at home, you know, you tore your ACL, your sophomore year in college, you make it to the WNBA, you know, you're waived by the Connecticut Sun, your rookie season.
then you spent three years overseas.
You're out the league for three years.
And then you return to the WNBA, a little bouncing around,
but you stuck a bit with the San Antonio stars for three years.
Then after that stint, you were out of the WNBA again in 2021.
You played Athletes Unlimited, which you said was helpful.
And then after that, you joined the Aces and win championships with them in 2022,
2020, 23.
And now you're with the fever, which was a big decision,
an uncomfortable decision to go try a new chapter there.
It's a very interesting season with highs and lows
and it ends for you with a torn ACL.
So my question is,
how have you had so much endurance through your career?
You know, as competitors in basketball,
like we just want to play.
Like, if we see people playing that we played against
and we battle, we're just like,
oh, I mean, if they still playing,
like for sure, I can play.
I just need the right opportunity.
And it really kept being.
in that pretty much my whole career was just need the right opportunity, right opportunity.
And, you know, sometimes it would work playing time-wise.
Sometimes it wouldn't.
But I know every place that I was in, I was supposed to be there.
I think my faith helped me understand that I was in every situation that I was in for a reason,
whether I played or not, there was something to gain from that team experience.
There was something to gain from someone I met, something I lost, whatever.
it was there was a lesson and a lot of the stuff and it helped me to keep keep my drive very high
even when I was out of the league there were definitely times where it was tough like being out of it
but I still I still had that passion even when it wasn't logical anymore it's like all right
you could probably call it quits around this time and that's that's how I felt in 2019 when I was
overseas in Poland, I was like, yeah, I'm about ready to wrap this up. I'm tired of
dealing with these crazy coaches overseas. Like, I'm not making enough money for this. That
2019 season, I get to the Aces and me and Chris, the, the social media person with the AIS
who does, he's always done a phenomenal job, but he started capturing me doing the Lady Aces
chant. So this was when I started getting more of a following on social media because
people were, they were seeing that. Thought that that was fun. Yada, yada.
then I go to Chicago and I get cut after the bubble season.
So 21, I'm not playing, but Athlete's Unlimited, it starts.
And that's in Vegas.
Oddly enough, I have a good year, a good first year in AU.
The Aces staff, like Becky would be there, Nikki was there.
They offered me a training game contract.
This was the first year that Becky was going to be there.
And they were saying that they were looking for, you know,
veteran and somebody for the locker room to impact culture and I go there we win two years
we don't win in 24 leaves to come to the fever and you know obviously we know how this season went
but everything was in its timing like I in hindsight I understand everything clearly yeah I mean
so much of that story is like look how maybe one closed door pivoted you to the next
blessing and opportunity, you know what I'm saying? And you look back on that and you think about
where it placed you now. Girl, you literally are one of the faces of the league. But you can't,
but you at one point literally was out of it. And there was not really a path to that. So what a
testimony. You've defied the norm, like things that used to be reserved only for literally the
superstars of the league. You are, you are captivating. You are funny. The way people are
consuming the WNBA is changing and evolving.
So now, my girl, you got commercials with T.J. Max, Ally, Deloitte, Kia, DirecTV.
You're doing commercials with Diana Tarasi, Brianna Stewart, Paige Beckers.
Like, how have you found your lane to crack open and break through the zeitgeist?
And literally, like, it's not something funny.
You are one of the faces of the league.
I just, I'm just, I'm me everywhere I go.
I think authenticity is going to always get you where you need to be, even if it's not what you picture.
And a lot of mine just happens to be forward facing, but a lot of that can be attributed to our showrunner, our director for the Sit and T.P. show, Charlie, they came up with the idea for TP and I to be the faces of the league.
and I remember when they pitched it to us, we were like, absolutely, like, we love self-deprecating humor.
We're totally okay with what our paths have looked like in the WMBA, because while I love basketball, it's not my everything.
Like, I'm a multifaceted person, so if basketball hasn't gone the way that I thought it would go, like, that's, that's okay.
Like, I'm still, I've still been in a very blessed position and one that I'm very fortunate for.
a lot of minutes or not
like it's been a real treat
to be in the W for this long
I can't say that I expected this
so to see that really turn into us
being in the faces of the league
I hope that it's inspiring
to people to just
bet on yourself and like make yourself
a brand like be authentic
stay true to it and like the people
that are supposed to find you
will find you
yeah and I mean
so your show that you have with TP
Teresa Plaisant's
unsupervised. Let's play a little clip from that show real quick.
Somebody under this video will inevitably say,
damn their voice is deep.
Damn them, man.
And the babysitters come after them.
Like, I've seen comments where, like,
somebody's like, what's wrong with those women's voices?
So at least they're acknowledging the fact that we're women.
But then somebody's like, no, they ain't women.
I mean, when you put yourself out there,
you also put yourself out there to haters.
So how do you handle that aspect of?
of it. Oh man. I used to just trolling back because like there's nothing that you can say about me
that'll hurt my feelings. Like I literally do not know you. And some of some of the responses are
bots, you know, for me to get my feelings heard about people, I got to respect you. I got to value
your opinion. A lot of things go into it. So like you being a stranger, I, I could care less about
you talking about how many points I'll score and minutes. I don't care. No, let's see you and
and ask for a picture, you know?
But you haven't been,
you haven't shied away from it at W&B All-Star in Indianapolis.
I know what goal of yours is to be a comedian.
And you did it.
You put yourself out there.
You did a stand-up routine.
So now that it's done,
because you were super mysterious about it before.
So now that it's done,
like what was it like to do stand-up and prepare for it and execute it?
Man, it was good.
I will say, like,
I wish I had given more time and preparation to it.
Like, I had an idea, and I didn't start, like, nearly as soon as I should have
to really just, like, have it all memorized.
But it was just good practice.
It had been over two years since I'd done stand-up.
So when this opportunity presented itself, my girlfriend was, like, you've got to do it
so that you hold yourself accountable to, like, get back to practicing.
And now that the off-season is here, like, a couple people have.
asked me so like, yeah, I definitely have to go somewhere here and perform and give back
into a rhythm so that I can, you know, become like a, I don't want to say respected, but just
somebody who's doing the work. Like, you're constantly, constantly, you know, going to open mic
nights or practicing your jokes. So I want to get to that point. And so that's my, that's my goal,
you know, before the end of the year to do it at least twice. You've also been a coach. You were an
assistant coach at Rice University.
Like, did you enjoy that role?
Could we ever see coach said?
So I enjoyed it so much.
I think same for when I've played.
I enjoy the relationship aspect of everything I do more than the actual thing, typically.
So coaching was cool.
It was fun.
Like playing basketball is cool and it's fun.
But it's the people that I get to meet and interact with
and the way that that human interaction,
like y'all can change one another's lives,
just by something you say, something you do.
So it was more about that, me being able to impact young women.
And so if I ever got back into it, it would be, you know,
because I miss being able to do that, honestly.
As we come to an end here, you mentioned Amati, your, Amati Brooks,
your girlfriend.
Is she also your official stylist because she's a well-known fashion stylist?
Okay.
So how is she helping you put your style?
together and be ready to meet all of these different moments that we just described for you.
She had a vision. She's like, look, if you're at the end of your career and you want to go into acting,
like people need to start seeing you in a different light visually, like they need to see you as a brand
and see you, you know, we got to elevate your style. And if you look at my outfits from last year
with the Aces, and this year, it was such a big jump.
And I think the recognition that she got, that I got, the people that were reaching out
to send stuff, like, she did that in a matter of months.
And it was super impressive.
I just, what she shows me, I trust the vision.
I let her get very creative with the things that we do.
She knows that she can try stuff out.
Like, if it's masculine and feminine, like, all way or it all.
like it's cool like let's do it and so
I think she did a really good job
of letting people see
like me just wear
different stuff and
you know hopefully they can see me doing that
like on screen you know
so I'm very fortunate that
that I have heard by my side
okay and just words how would you
what would you describe your style as
what would I describe my style as
I would say like versatile
I would say
um
like what like fuck like what's what what what
hey
hey buddy
she said hey buddy
she said hey girl
hey
like
versus all and like
elevated street wear and like elevated street wear and
like we get we like make stuff colorful
sometimes like I like a lot of colors
so we'll be like outgoing I think
usually how she dresses me
it reflects my personality a lot, I think.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm going to need you to also know your style.
Not you need to know all this help.
Yeah, no.
I don't know none of them.
She said, I'm going to need you to know your style.
You're crushing it, my girl.
It's really inspiring the journey that you've been on.
And we only see, like, the bright lights, but all that it took to get here.
And I appreciate just everything you gave us today.
Thank you.
I love you, my girl.
Thank you for having me, too.
It was great to catch up with Sid Colson.
of the Indiana fever.
That'll do it for this episode of Goodfollow.
We'll catch you next time.
Thank you.
