The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Is Victor Wembanyama The NBA GOAT? | Local Hour

Episode Date: May 19, 2026

"30-foot three to tie... is in there." Victor Wembanyama led the San Antonio Spurs to a victory over the Thunder in Oklahoma City with a truly epic performance. How did he do it? Are we hyperventilating to make him one of the greats after one great night? And how did Gwyneth Paltrow's head end up in a box? Today's cast: Dan, Greg, Chris, Jeremy, Roy, Tony, and Zaslow. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Greg, your son has told me that you sent him a text and that you are withholding some content today in a protest. And I want to know what's happening because he hasn't given me details. He's just told me that you're tired of something that we're doing around here. No, I'm not tired of it. I'm just trying to protect my intellectual property over there at the small private individual called the Greg Cody Show podcast. You know, we're not a big company, we're small. I don't think that's the name of it. The Greg Cody Show.

That's not the name of it. Well, with Greg Cody, but, you know, we're casual around here. We're using the nickname. Chris, can you read me the text that he sent you, please? Because he didn't give me the answer that I was looking for. I was getting to it. He just misnamed his podcast. He said, remember my new edict when it comes to DLS.

They can have either the catchphrase countdown or the movies bit, but not both on the same. day. And the movie bit should be confined to one hour and not reoccur the whole show. Fair. Reasonable. So the good content, you don't want us to have it? It's the property of my podcast. I've been sharing the catchphrase countdown with you only because I normally come out a day before I'm on here. But the movie thing, like on my current episode that dropped yesterday morning, we have a Greg doesn't know movies. That's like a recurring bit that I have.

It was a spiteful Greg doesn't know movies, by the way. He's like, they think they can have the movies bit. We're doing it this week on our show. Greg, if I can play defense attorney for a second, not for you. For Dan. Yeah. Can I argue that this bit is empirically different than the bit that you do on your podcast? And I'll tell you why.

Chris has been informed me and your son, Michael, has also informed me, and Yeti has also informed me and informed the defense that they don't actually play the clips of the movies on your podcast. they ask you questions. Right. So, in essence, us playing clips of movies to ask you if you know the movie clip and quote is a different game and a different, completely different thing. You know, that's a valid point, Tony. But I would argue your argument.

I mean, they're movies. There are how much or how little do I know about movies. That's the bottom line. It's derivative, though, and it's flattery, right? To do some copycat stuff that honors you as the pioneer is homage. It's not insult. And you're now actively denying us the good content. Anytime we get something that works with you, you take it away and you take your ball and you run home with it.

That's not true. I like the metaphor, though. No, it's not true. I mean, I'm offering either. What are the rules? Can I do one of them today and one of them tomorrow since you're in both days? Or are you just limiting us to I can't do it in a week? Well, you normally only do the catchphrase count on once.

Put it on the poll at Lebitard show. if you can only do one, which one do you want? Catchphrase update or Greg doesn't know movies. GDKM. Go ahead and pick one. I still don't understand what the rule is. What are you saying is the rule? The rule is, and I hope you appreciate it.

I just don't want to give... I don't appreciate it. For the record, I do not appreciate it. To be clear. Okay. These are things that are a part integral with my podcast. But we're promoting your podcast. Zaz's podcast has blown.

up at least in part because of being close to us and as as yours. I was going to say hard work, but okay. Yeah, I'd like to take a little credit. But it's grown by eight times since you've been here. Like it is also. I can relate to us. Wow, congrats us. It can also be hard work, but it's also grown since you got here.

That's not disputable. Both of you grew your podcasts after the affiliation with our show and the ability to, I don't want the credit. I want the material. I think you're wanting the credit. This is the Dan Levator show with the Stucats podcast. They canceled my podcast when I started working here. Greg Cody of the Miami Herald is in with us today.

He's already withholding his good material. We will find out soon whether we go catchphrases or movies today. I should tell you that Bougshambi is going to be on with us here at some point this week. And my intent was to try and get some of your catchphrases on a cover. broadcast as part of promoting what it is that Boog Shambi is doing with us. Do you still want to withhold it if I get some of your catchphrases on the Cubs broadcast? No, I'd like that. That'd be great.

So that's it. Your protest is over? I offer you a little candy that's national in nature and you immediately put down your protest? What I'm really pushing for is to hear the phrase, very good, at golf galleries. like after a good drive instead of the old tired getting the whole. I will say Roy said yesterday and I agree with them

we're done with the Baba Bowie thing. Like I love the Howard Stern show, love Baba Bowie but the Baba Bowie cheer at golf. Like we need something new. Very good. That could, yes. That's a good nominee. It is. Thank you. And Boog likewise should push very good because it works after a whole

imagine that is a home run call. It's over the fence and the United States goes, very good. It'd be great. A Cubs broadcast. traditional in nature. You think that that would fly. Is there a parrot in the booth? Where is it?

Like a drunk Harry Carey? Couldn't be heard saying that. I don't know. We're going to act like Cubs games are above reproach. They're doing a beer snake. He mentioned Harry Carey now and this. I wanted to get to Wembeyanama and we will in a second. Please get me the sound of how Pat Riley says Wembeyanama

so we could celebrate a international name today. But since he mentioned Harry Carey, Boog Shambi tells the great story. The Wrigley field press box and bathroom specifically was unbelievably small. Like it felt like something out of the 1920s. And so on a very cold winter day, he is awed because he is at the next urinal in a very tight space with Harry Carey. And Harry Carey is fumbling around in a lot of clothes. And he just says to Boog by way of greeting, it's the, for, Boog is meeting a legend for the first. first time and what Harry Carey says is, oh, I got so much clothes on. I can't even see my own

dick. Very poor Harry Carey impersonation by me. A good anecdote, though. I was all right, man. I want to get into a couple of things specifically from last night's game because I imagined every player in the West who doesn't play for OKC and the Spurs calling their agent and asking for a trade because they see. all of those young players and those two teams are built to last.

I think last night was a big night for the Miami Heat. All these players, they star players in the Western Conference. You don't think the Heat are in on them now? Last night was a great night for Heat culture. There are a number of things here. Dwayne Wade is saying, look, most players have to suffer before winning the championship, but Wemby might be the 0.001% that doesn't have to suffer because he says 99.9% of the time,

I do believe a player has to go through pain, but every so often it's a special mother bleeper that comes around and a special team that comes around that they don't have to experience it. And so I want to talk about a handful of things from last night's game because I don't know what the better feeling is. What do you guys think is the better feeling? Put this on the poll as well.

Who feels better today? Wembenyama or Alex Newhook? Who feels better today? That's a great question. New Hook scores the game winner again in overtime. The again's big because he's done this twice now. And has anyone ever done it twice? Has anyone ever done the game winner in a game seven? Former Panther Nathan Horton with Boston did it twice in the same postseason actually. But New Hook advances Montreal to the conference final.

I'm tempted to say that. But maybe it's Wembon Yamma because it doesn't mean anything as far as the rest of New Hook's career. Like Wembenyama obviously knows, but like everyone knows now, okay, this guy owns a league. Rimbaya. So I feel like maybe the answer is Wemba. That is the answer. I would agree. Wembe is the answer. He made his statement.

It's game one and it's Eastern Conference finals. It's not an advanceer. It doesn't finish a season and it doesn't prevent the ending of a season. Those were two fantastic games last night. Both of them. To have the stakes on that Montreal Buffalo game. To have the people of Buffalo, they've never had anything. in sports, win anything.

They were so hopeful to take that away from them. Dan, I had a real conundrum last night. So you know, both these games, it's overtime in game seven of the hockey going on at the same time as like late fourth quarter of Oklahoma City in San Antonio. It was so awesome. I was like sports. But I had a problem. Do you know what my problem was, Dan?

Think about it. What was my problem if this is happening at the same time? Well, are you in the tablet? Are you under? Yes. You're in bed and you can't go to the bad couch and you still haven't gotten a better couch? You couldn't wait for 30 minutes just to sit on the leather couch?

No, this is when I go to bed, okay? So I'm watching in bed. And if anyone wants to sponsor the Zaslo Mansion family room with a new couch, just read, hit me up. All right, my DMs are open. My DMs are open. So I'm in bed. Just asking for a new couch?

I didn't ask. It's a sponsorship. I didn't ask. So I'm in bed. And I got the tab. On my stomach, of course, I said to my wife, I go, can we also put the TV on? She goes, no, it's tablet time. And so I had the tablet on my stomach.

And the TV gets hot. It keeps her awake. And so I got the tablet on, and I'm watching the game. And I'm like, but damn it, I have to also watch the hockey, of course. So I had to break out my phone. And you see how I got a kickstand here on the back of the phone? You had both of them on your stomach? Are you shirtless?

Are you shirtless? Shirtless. Shirtless. Sureless. I had wrestling jammies. Shirtless. We had the cleaning girl yesterday. too, so brand new sheets, very comfortable.

And so I have the thing here, the kickstand, all right? So I got the iPad on my stomach and also the iPhone set up on my stomach. Zazlo's really having trouble. You made him stammer with the girl-woman connection because I told them a couple weeks ago, hey, it's girl under 18, it's woman after 18. My boss. And he says that's been hard for me to get right. I'm having a lot of trouble with that one.

The handful of observations that I have from last night, and I have many, because I told you before, the NBA playoffs have kind of stunk. Atlanta and New York gave us a good game. We had an overtime game in, you know, Cleveland, Toronto. But it's kind of stunk. And yesterday you had what has to be the play of the season. And I believe we have now a call that rivals, do you believe in miracles, in two, terms of being a better call. And I know what I'm saying.

I know that I am going after. I don't even know what second place is historically on the best call of all time. I know, do you believe in Miracles, 1980 Olympic hockey team? Let's play out Michael's greatest upset in the history of American sports. You've got 10 seconds. The countdown going on. Holds up for 46 years somehow. I don't know what you guys would put in second place behind that.

But somehow hockey, 46 years. later because of the moment and the politics and everything else, that became the greatest call enduring for half a century now. Obviously, the stakes are slightly different yesterday in that the most giant guy who's going to be running the league for several years. And God Almighty, I'm super tempted to say that if this stays healthy, it's not going to be a stoppable thing. That was a wilt game. Like, that's a Shaquille O'Neill. Neil is the only one. Prime Shaq, 2001 is the only one to go 40, 20, 20 this deep in the playoffs, and this is this playoff debut for this guy. Like, he's just getting started. Shaq was in the league

for like nine years at that point. It's just lunacy and any amount of hyperventilation around him today will not be overstatement if you suspect that if he stays healthy and keeps growing with that team, he can rival the best player ever. It's not overstatement because It's not a stopable thing. They're trying to stop him with Caruso, but a handful of things here, a handful, okay? I remind you that the Spurs got Deerrin Fox because he's the one who's got veteran leadership. Didn't even need him last night. Didn't have him.

Didn't need him. Win against OKC and Wemby leaves the court, OKC is 8 for 13 in the paint, 7 for 9 at the rim. He comes back on the court and they cannot do the same things. And at the end of the game, the Spurs go zone because they got beat on the three where Wembe, they got beat where Wemby didn't rotate. And they're like, screw this, Wemby's staying in the paint. You're going to have to come do it in the paint. We're going zone.

And OKC lost the game because OKC went zone and all of a sudden they couldn't get shots. But these are the things that I think are worth monitoring in that series. I think the Spurs are going to wear down. Their guys played a lot of minutes last night. Wemby's never played that many minutes in a game. That's a career high for him. And all their main guys played a ton of minutes. and OKC over the course of a series can wear you down there.

But what do you guys do when you see everything that happened last night? That shot with 26 seconds left is a truly terrible shot. It's a truly terrible shot unless you may be Steph Curry. History of the League, that's a truly terrible shot to take in that situation. I know the clock, but if he had missed it, if they're down three, 26 seconds left, if he misses it, the bounce is going to make it so that they're, still not going to have time. He's trying to rush that because they don't want to get to the fouls and it is a terrible shot that he took, but no terrible shot gets remembered like that.

Like, that's going to be, I don't know that he's going to have a lot of shots in his career more memorable than that one. Yeah, the terrible shot became one of the greatest shots of all time. And that's the way it works in sports with superstars who tend to do things like that more than mortal humans. When you say that Wemba Yama is still growing, You don't mean that literally, right? I might mean it literally. Imagine him as 8-1. I might mean it literally.

I don't know if you put it on the pole. You think he's grown eight more inches? He could be 8-1. Imagine him at 8-1? He could be 8-1. He might as well be 8-1 now. Mumbai you. Put it on the poll at Lebitard show.

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despite that gratuitous line in back in my day. Stugats. I wish you were here, my wife. I really miss her. No, I don't. That's the thing about being married. You know, you're not allowed to say, I don't miss my wife.

I've been gone two days. I haven't been gone long enough to miss my wife. I'm sorry. I call her. You just said you do miss her. You know, what am I? Hello, all right. All right, we'll see you.

All right. And then, you know, I'm going to see her in two days. I was jumping Charlie. Good. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. So I believe, though, that we have a call from that game to rival, do you believe in miracles. And it comes courtesy of the OKC broadcast team, which really rose to the moment here. They're up three.

And Wembe decides he's going to shoot from the logo. And here's the OKC call. Mity Yamaha has a left-win castle. The Trelling Wembe, lean-in-th-foot-free to tie, is in there. 26.3 to play. It's in there. You're a little pizzazz. The best moment of the basketball season called by the OKC radio team.

It's in there. 26.3 to play. It's like he didn't even call it. That's correct. That is why it is the greatest call in sports history. The Bermin-A-Mahazel, Retreling Wembe, lean-in-3-3-to-tie. is in there. 36.3 to play.

He casually says a 30-foot three to tie. It's the best moment of the season. Wemba Diama has a left twin castle. Retrelling Wembe, lean in 30-foot-3 to tie. He's in there. 26.3 to play. Listen to the crowd. Just listen, after he says it's in there,

that crowd stood for the first three and a half minutes of that game longer than they've stood all season because they do not sit until the first. basket is scored and they were down early and they didn't score for three and a half minutes. This right here is exactly how you would call it first quarter game nine against the Pelican. Wemba, Yama has a left wind castle. Betrilling Wembe, lean in 30 foot three to tie is in there. 26.3 to play.

Do a sponsorship after that, right? Just isolate for me the crowd noise. Go ahead and play the whole thing again just so that you can hear what it sounds like when a defending champion crowd gets punched in the stuff. Wemba Jama has a left-win castle. Retrelling Wembe, lean in 30-foot-3 to tie is in there. 26.3 to play. They're so deflated, and you do have to take it from the champions. Like, you have to take it from them.

They are exceptional, and he went in there and took it from them. And then after the game, Wembe Nama's post-game, when he's asked a very long question, his answer made it so that he can't get. aggregated saying the cocky thing they're not going to be able to put in headlines Wemby says that he was bothered by SGA winning the MVP just curious if that was in your mind at all knowing that she had got that award and you were in the top three for it and you know did any part of tonight feel personal I did some of your facial expressions kind of look like you were really really

going for it yeah for sure anything you just said go ahead and quote him on that Yeah, for sure, everything you just said. He's kind of got a cartoon monster voice, right? Kind of like a Callais Campbell light. Listen to it again. I don't think he's got a friendly giant's voice. Let's see if he's got a Callais-Campbell voice here. Visual expressions kind of look like you were really, really going for it.

Yeah, for sure. Everything you just said. A little bit. Yeah, a little nasal. Undercurrent of a pituitary problem. Like a younger Callias Campbell. Like a little smaller monster, even though he's taller monster, but smaller. So last night was, it was like Robinson-Elajuwon, right?

It felt like 1995 where Western Conference final Rocket Spurs, and everyone knew Elagion was best player in the league now because Michael Jordan wasn't around. And, well, actually he returned earlier that season. But David Robinson won MVP. And Elijahan was like, yeah, I'm going to destroy you. And the rocket swept him. That game last night under those circumstances, that person can run the league for 10 years.

And I really do want to ask this question on the poll. at Lebitard show, Wembe, going to ruin the league or going to save it? What's your answer on that one? Can it be both? Put both. But make that the third answer. But make that the third answer. But going to ruin the league, going to save the league, and can it be both?

Just put can it be both as one of the questions. Why do we always pretend like we hate a dynasty? A dynasty is great for sports. No matter the sport, whether it's the Yankees, Or the Lakers. Nah, unfair. Look, what the Dodgers are doing, it feels unfair, but baseball can make it random.

In this sport, the best guy being 7-3, look, this is, I don't want to lose sight of this just because you've been watching Wembe for a couple of years. It's as ridiculous as watching Shaq do it. Like, it doesn't make sense that that person's pulling up from 30 feet. That's just total nonsense. My entire history watching basketball, the 7-foot-3 guy,

only takes that shot if they're out of time and someone got him the ball by accident at the end of the game. That's not, it's just not a smart shot. Are we in agreement on that? Do you guys disagree with that? It's a two-for-one situation, so he's trying to get the ball up as fast as he can to get the rebound if they do have to foul, or if they can wait a little bit to try and get some more time on the back end of Oklahoma City's thing. Yeah, but you can go for two. Like you can start the foul game.

You guys think that was a good shot? There are no bad shots if you're the greatest basketball player who's ever lived, Dan. 30 foot three to tie is in there. He is. He already is. This is just like Shohei Otani. You asked the question of, is this going to save the league or is it going to ruin the league? Just like Shohei, it can save the league because there is this freak of nature that you're watching.

And you know already early in their career. It doesn't matter what the actual career looks like. That's the greatest player of that sport that has ever lived. He might not have six, seven, eight, championships, but what he is doing, what he does on a basketball floor is more impressive than anyone who's ever done it. Forget Jordan, forget LeBron, Victor Wembenyama is the greatest basketball player who's ever lived, just like Shohay Otani was immediately the greatest baseball player who's ever lived. I don't disagree with you, but I think that consensus is going to

take another five years or so. But I will say, Wemba Nama, to get to that level, greater than Jordan level, has to make a shot like that. Even if you call it a bad shot, that has to go in to form the myth and the legend of this. I don't want to do that particular hyperventilation today only because also in my entire life, that player always gets hurt. Like that player, that size, trying to do that sport that's breaking all of the other players who aren't that size. If he gets hurt, you're going to seem ridiculous saying that that's the best player who ever lived when Michael Jordan 1,6. titles and we just got done watching LeBron. We did say the same thing about Shohei Otani and then he had Tommy John surgery and was

the first 50-50 season ever. That's why I say it's going to take five years for Wembe. Let him stay healthy. Let him win a couple of championships. And then that's a conversation. I don't actually want to do that conversation just yet. I do want to marvel at what it is that we're seeing play out in real time, though, because he can break the game over his knee.

What I just told you, those numbers on the defending champion, when he went to the bench, they did what they wanted to in the paint and at the rim. They were very high percentage in the few minutes that he sat down. And how about this stat right here? The Spurs, since February 1st, when Wemby plays more than 15 minutes in a game, 37 and 3. Mumbai, yeah.

37 and 3. That is on pace to be better than the Golden State Warriors were for that season that they won 73 games. And that's just him playing 15 minutes. He alters everything in a way that is hugely unfair. We can agree on that, but we can also enjoy it for a while before we talk about how it is that it's going to be unfair going forward. because I understand that it is just one game, but he couldn't have made a louder statement in the one game.

There aren't a lot of games that I'm watching anymore, especially in bed, lights are off. It's real quiet because my wife's sleeping, where it doesn't involve my favorite team, and like I'm gasping at what's going on in the game. It's rare that a game that's around midnight, and I'm like, give me more. I'm like, I got to go to bed, but this is fun.

I want to ask you guys, do you find it in any way disorienting that he, for example, I know this isn't, among all the things from last night, this is not one that people are going to concentrate on very much. But I believe he was 12 of 13 from the line and Duncan Robinson was 75% this year from the line. So Wemby's like an 80-something percent shooter from the line. He's like 85% from the free throw line. I kept waiting from to miss one of these monster free throws that he was. was shooting in the fourth or in overtime or in the second overtime and just making all of them. He's playing more minutes than he's ever played and scoring all the points in the second overtime and the thunder were feeling real good about themselves when Holmgren blocks is shot

at the end of regulation, right? They were feeling that arena was feeling itself. Such a great play. And yet, how about the sinking feeling in your stomach when you have that play and you realize, oh, he's just Chet? Like our guy is named Chet. And he's pretty good for size. He needs a better name. You're right.

It was Chas. If it was Chas, we think he's so much better. I think that that play gets diminished because his name is Chet. It was a wonderful play at the end of regulation. But when your name is Chet, come on now. Yeah. No, Chet's... White guys.

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There used to be a great in the NBA. I can't think of his last name. He couldn't have been that great if you can't think of his last name. No, no, I think he was a bull. Help me out here. You find it. Yeah, yeah, feel free. I'm going to find it.

Thank you, Chris. Start doing that to your, start doing that. I'm going to find it right now. Chet Walker. I think that's true. Well, you couldn't remember his last name. Verify that he was pretty good. Seven-time All-Star.

A 1969 NBA champion played for the Bulls from 69 to 75. Yes. Validated. Woo! Let's do a movie with your father.

Uh-oh. No cat breaks and stuff. Welcome back to Greg trying to name movie lines. Here's our first one of the day. It's simple. We play a movie line and you guess the movie, Greg. Here we go.

Oh, what's in the box? I have no idea. I have no idea. Come on. How am I going to know that? The same way that everyone listening knows. What's in the box? What's in the box?

Do you know the voice? Do you recognize the voice? It's Brad Pitt. Does it help you at all to know that it's Brad Pitt? We can give him so many. It's also Morgan Freeman. We can give him a lot of details here. Freeman has a distinctive voice.

Pitt, no. All right. I'll give you, and spoiler alert, I'll give you an even big. clue at the end of the movie it's the only one where Gwyneth Paltrow's head ends up in a box. Oh, what's in the box? It's her head and I hope people listen to that spoiler alert. Okay, her head's in a box.

It's for 30 years. That's true. Not attached to her body. Brad Pitt in that movie, he got put in his contract. He loved the script so much that they were not allowed to change the ending. So many executives tried to change the ending of that. I can understand why. Because people do not want dark.

They don't want to leave the theater. It's pretty dark. Oh my God. Wow. The name of the movie is the open neck. Chop your head off. What are you left with? The name of the movie...

Seven? Is seven. Yes. What is that? It doesn't make any sense. Why is it called seven? It's the seven deadly sins. It's a movie about the seven deadly sins.

Okay. Name the other six. Well, what do you mean? Seven is not one of the seven. What do you mean? What do you mean the seven? What do you mean the seven? Oh, there are seven of them.

Your biblical knowledge is not great, Greg. It isn't. I haven't read the Bible in a day and a half. Let's see if we can do this. Gluttony, lust, pride. The last one there was wrath. Greed, wrath. Wrath.

Sloth. Sloth. We're missing one. We're missing one of the deadly sins. Envy? Ah, thank you. Nicely done. It's not with a question mark, but yes. Envy is.

Envy, wow. Those are the seven deadly sins. They don't sound that deadly to me. They are. I think they're indicative of us. Her head was in a box. Greg. I know.

So what happens? Now that's a deadly sin right there. Oh, what's in the box? I'm going to murder somebody. At least do it politely. Anyway, so I got that wrong. You could give me a hundred of those questions. I wouldn't get any right.

Seven. All right. Give him another one. Let's give him another movie question here. All right. Here's the next one. I do like that theme song. We are back.

We are getting Doug back. Okay, somebody's screaming. We're getting Doug back. Yes. Who's screaming? I can give you a little bit more here. I did this this time, Dan, to give him a little help, we can add on to the line a little bit. We are back!

We are back! We are getting Doug back! And we're the three best friends that anybody could have. I have no idea. Seriously. So what is the best comedy, what is the best movie you have seen in the last, I don't know, 15 years that you would say in comedy? The most famous comedy of the last 15 years? The one where, what's his name from SNL plays an Anchorman?

Anchorman. Anchorman. Was that the name of it? Yeah, Anchorman. Yeah, that's it. That was a great. Now, I'm sure the way time flies, I'm sure that was more than 15 years ago, but that's what I think of when I think of a great movie.

The one with the Anchorman. It is. We will do more movies in a second. It's The Hangover. The Hangover, really. You know the movie. right? I've heard of it, sure. Yeah, who's in that? Oh yeah. Can you name any of the guys? Not a name?

Not a name. Galaphanicus, whatever his name is. Yeah, close enough. Handsome guy in the middle. Yeah. And guy with no tooth and then the baby. Zippy in the juice. So I got one of them. I got one of the four. There are a number of things to get to both nationally and locally, but I did want to, you wrote a column about Leonel Messi. And I heard this said the other day, and I hadn't considered it, but it's, I guess, fairly, obvious. The messy transaction, the Inter-Miamy messy transaction, is the greatest thing to happen in the

history of American soccer, right? I mean, second place might be Pele coming to the cosmos in the 70s, but there is no argument on messy coming to Inter-M Miami is by leaps and bounds the greatest thing to happen to American soccer. You're a soccer expert. You've been covering soccer locally and nationally for half a century. You would not dispute that, correct? No. I mean, back in the 70s when the NASL was blowing up, and it was big for a finite time. It wasn't just Pele. They had friends Beckenbauer from Germany. There were a number of international stars, albeit late in their career.

Georgie Best from England was another one. But... Beckham, Slatan, both of them did big things. Right. More recently, David Beckham was considered the guy who was going to be. be the face of MLS. But now, yeah, there's no comparison. Messi is on a level all his own. And so the idea that, I don't know if you want to get into what the fans did, but the idea that the fans would not be satisfied just being able to watch Messi on a field and need more from him is absurd.

It's just totally absurd. Messi, the way I would put it is nobody in the history of South Florida sports, You can say Dan Marino in his prime. You can say LeBron James. Nothing compares with Messi in terms of what has happened in this market. LeBron James has about 140 million Instagram followers. Messi has 504 million, more than a half a billion. He's incomparable.

He's the greatest thing. He's lifted the entire sport in this country, not to mention an entire league. I would say LeBron is comparable. I don't think when you say there's no comparison, I think LeBron being the best of his time and among the best of all time, being here for four years in a sport that locally people care about as much. I'm not going to say more because we've got such a Latin population down here that cares about soccer. But the Miami Heat, people locally here care as much about that as people locally care about soccer. Yeah, but nationally, the NBA is not even the most popular sport in America.

And globally, LeBron James cannot hold a candle to Messi, who is a true international star on a level. What did you write about today? What did you write? What was your column about today in the Miami Herald? The column was an unabashed appreciation of Lienel Messi, who is as good. He's about to turn 39. He scored at least a goal and an assist in four straight games. I'm not saying he's as good as he's ever been, but he's still.

good on a level that can compete in South America and in Europe, and that's why he's, again, barring anything unforeseen, he's going to lead reigning champion Argentina into the World Cup again. It's just an appreciation of Messi, and especially in the context of at the last home game where the La Familia fan groups staged a protest because they weren't getting enough love from the players. And my problem with that is in the first four games at the new stadium. They had three disappointing ties to lesser teams, and then they had a blown lead loss against rival Orlando City. No fan in any sport is going to be in a mood to go, hey, to the fans after those four results. So they finally win a game Saturday night, and the fans protest for 85

minutes by remaining silent. And I think that it's not about you, fans. It's not about you. You've got messy on the field. Appreciate what you've got. All right. Let me quibble just slightly. okay, because I think, please look this up for me to see if I have the numbers on this right. But since turning 38, I believe Messi has 76 goal contributions in 46 games. And the only reason I would quibble with you on the Messi-Lebron comparison is because LeBron is actually doing it against the best in the world and Messi's not. Like, it's clear that Messi's better than these people he's playing against. it's often clear, but he's not playing against the best people in the world. He's playing against MLS competition, and it shows because you shouldn't be able to put up those particular numbers at 38,

and he wouldn't in the Premier League. He wouldn't be able to have that many. I think I've got the numbers right, but you can look it up for me. So since turning 38, he's contributed to 76 goals in 46 games. That's not against the Premier Conference. competition in the world. Well, but it's he got to a hundred combined goals and assists, 30 games faster than anybody else had in MLS. He had to do what he's doing to prove how great he still is, which is dominate MLS. And keep in mind, when he came here slightly less than three

years ago, a lot of people thought he was washed. A lot of people thought this was a goat out to pasture. He was coming here to retire. He was going to go through the motions and be pretty good. he's been astoundingly good, and he's dominated this league in a way that I think verifies how great he is still on an international level, not just an American level. Getting back to Wembeyanama from last night and the taking of that game from the champions. Mumbai, yeah. Playing on the road and the spurs are not nearly as deep. Deerrin Fox is the one that's supposed to close those games for them.

That's what they got him for, and he didn't even play in the game. So the number of minutes logged by the Spurs in that game was a lot different than what the Thunder do with all of their depth. It does seem like we are just because of how Grady is going to let him have one bad game with SGA, because we haven't even mentioned him all hour. And he was pretty bad last night, right? Oh, but this is the thing, though. I've been clamoring this for this for so long, Chris. I am so frustrated, okay, especially when I see what Stephen A. Smith is doing with Jalen Brown and an assortment of others that is a grotesque distortion of why it is we got into this business,

to be threatening Jalen Brown. We have turned sports argument into who can we blame, who can we blame, who can we blame? Last night is just, nope, that guy's great. and we just rarely get to do that one anymore. I do think SGA is going to skate, but it's not because he was merely terrible. He was made terrible by what they have in the middle of the paint. We can get into the larger discussion of whether that's going to ruin the league

because he can make anybody look like that. SGA is obviously great at what he does, and the fact that someone's 7 foot 3 is in the paint to alter everything, to make Chet Holmgren look small, makes it so that the game gets totally distorted by a size advantage. not only him protecting the pain, it's also the spurs and Mitch Johnson do an incredible job, blitzing him the moment he passes half court, right? They'll send two defenders, and that's why Caruso was able to get all these open shots and open threes, because they're like, all right,

we'd rather have Caruso shoot the three than SGA be able to get downhill and create offense when he gets to his spots at the elbow, at the low post and stuff like that. So like, yeah, he missed a lot of shots, but they were playing defensively a great game against him. I would expect, because they play in tomorrow with those kinds of minutes logged, that tomorrow will be different and then they play again I mean they've got Friday and Sunday. It's every other day the whole series I believe Yeah it's Friday and Sunday but so

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