The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Linda Cohn's Legendary Career + The Pitch Clock | Hour 3 | Hour 3 (feat. Linda Cohn & Jordan Shusterman)

Episode Date: July 2, 2026

"The master batter." Linda Cohn has announced her retirement from SportsCenter and recounts her favorite moments on ESPN, her legacy and impact on women, and the kindest messages she's received. ...She also gets a visit from "limited fake John Skipper." Plus, it's time for another episode of The Pitch Clock as Jordan Shusterman breaks down the Mets and Yankees flailing, the Cubs thriving, the All-Star game voting, and Hunter Goodman's ascension. And Jeremy and Chris square off in a competitive game of 162-0. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You are listening to the Dan Levitar show in partnership with the Drafkin Sports app. Now live in all 50 states. We are about to be joined by Linda Cohn, an absolute legend who is worth a toast. I can't think of anybody we've ever had on Worth a Toast more than Linda Cohn. Worth a Toast presented by Cuervo. Keep it fun. Keep it, Cuervo. Linda. Retired from ESPN on Tuesday, Thursday.
Starting point is 00:00:33 34 years there, you might be surprised to know. Longest Tenured Sports Center anchor, she has anchored more editions of SportsCenter than anyone in ESPN history. Linda, thank you for making the time for us. Congratulations. What have the last couple of weeks been like and how much did you wrestle with this decision? Dan, most important, where's my glass? My goodness, I mean, come on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Failure by us. First of all, yeah, listen, so great to be on with you, Dan and all you guys. You guys do such a great job. Love the show. Just any of, Dan, Dan and I, we go way back. But, you know, it was a mutual decision. It's a mutual walk away. I'm grateful for everything that happened and has happened at ESPN.
Starting point is 00:01:21 I think it goes both ways there. But, you know, now it's on to the next. I just retired from ESPN. I look back with very grateful and fond memories and also the people that I work with. And, you know, the people that I inspired, I'm just so grateful for the outpouring on the nice messages and text messages. Sometimes, as you know, Dan, we forget. We're just doing something we love, right? And, you know, we forget that we've been doing this for so long, and people have made us part of their sports landscape when you think about it. And those are
Starting point is 00:01:57 the kind of words that I'm like, oh, wow, wow, yeah, I guess so. I got to just reflect in enjoy, but now I'm excited about my new platform at Lendocon Sports on YouTube, where I'll get to do things like you. Talk to great people and all of you guys. And I've got to build an incredible staff like you have. So yeah, it's good. It's just, I'm so excited. Among the things that you've received in the last couple of weeks, which I'm guessing sort of feels a bit like a eulogy while you're still alive in the outpouring, what are the most moving? things you're thinking about in terms of people that you've heard from. Yeah, it's funny, Dan, that you use those words because, you know, please God, let me be on this earth for a few more
Starting point is 00:02:42 decades at least. But that's what kind of hit me and resonated when they flew me out to Bristol, Connecticut, the hub of ESPN, as you know. And I was talking to a lot of people and hearing all of this and what I meant. And then I turned to a few people at that time, and I said, and I It hit me then. I'm glad I'm alive for all this. This kind of outpouring usually happens when someone passes away. And so I was really happy about that because we just don't know what kind of impact we make. But I just feel that two main things, when I knew I was on the right track, early on when I started in 1992 at ESPN.
Starting point is 00:03:27 And I worked 10 years before getting the ESPN in broadcasting, working in radio, seven days a week in New York City, doing local Long Island TV, and then my big break Seattle at KIROTV, a CBS affiliate at the time before ESPN spotted me. But the two, when I look back professionally on my legacy, is that, yes, all these young women that watch me in kindergarten, first grade, second grade, watch me on Sports Center behind the desk, realizing that they too could do this, that it's just not them sitting on the couch with their dad or mom watching sports. do this for a living because they saw me up there. That meant a lot. And then hearing their stories during the last, you know, week after the announcement. And then I knew I was on the right
Starting point is 00:04:12 track also, guys, when I first started. And every year after that, I would run into guys in places, restaurants, bars, sports bars, arenas, stadiums, whatever. And they would say they never took their sports from a woman before me. And they always prefaced it, don't take this the wrong And I'm like, how can I take that the wrong way? That's the greatest compliment ever. And that's when I knew, you know, I'm in the right place. To that point, Emily Kaplan writes, Linda paved the way for so many women in this industry by being her authentic self.
Starting point is 00:04:49 She also helped carry the torch for hockey on ESPN in between rights deals. Absolute legend. Do you have a, not a specific compliment, but a person who gave you a compliment that was more meaningful than the others because of whatever that person means to you. Yeah, Dan, I mean, I know it sounds generic for me to say, but they all, what touched me about comments like Emmys and other women that are in the business now and just regular sports fans, women that felt it was possible to love sports as much as guys, it was always the same kind of words about they never would have done it.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Like, they never would have had the confidence. They never would have felt it was okay. Also, the genuine part of it, right? That's what I'm really proud of, Dan. I'm always me. It was always fan first for me. When I was on the sports center set, it was important for me to connect to the fan because I am a sports fan. I didn't suddenly turn on a switch and say, all right, I'm going to be this broadcaster and win a few MEs and make people cry in interviews.
Starting point is 00:05:54 No, that's not what I was about. This was about connecting with the fans and also being pro athlete. I mean, in a small way, you know, I played hockey, I was a goalie, made the boys team in high school, played all four years in college at Oswego State. You know, so I was an athlete in some capacity. And so I've always understood what they went through. And also, early on in Sports Center, as you guys know, we were the only game in town. And so it was extra inspiration for me. I knew I was making an impact every show.
Starting point is 00:06:27 I never rested on any Laurel and thinking, oh, you know, I've been here 10 years, 20 years. 30 years, and I don't have to try so hard. And I always felt that I have to make believe somebody was watching me for the very first time, and I had to prove I belonged. Linda, we know sports media has changed, television on ESPN has changed. Do you miss how big sports center used to be? Yeah, you know, we can't always go back, right? It was just different. That's the kind of comments I hear from, you know, followers and viewers and listeners and fans who always say to me, you know, sports center is just not the same. It hasn't been for a while. Everybody loves nostalgia. You guys know that. Everybody loves that golden era. It was special. Yes, it was special in the
Starting point is 00:07:14 90s and early 2000s. And then it all changed. A lot for the good and something not so good. The good is the technical innovations, right? You know, ESPN, give them credit. They always were ahead of the game with certain technical innovations, even though our SportsCenter anchors weren't so thrilled with many of those innovations, because we felt that at first it took away from what we were doing, our writing. You know, people were always shocked in the early days when I would tell them we'd write our own stuff. Everyone was convinced we had writers, but that helped bring out our personality.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Another great thing that helped the popularity of sports center, beside it being the only game in town and people connecting to that golden era, you know, is the fact that, you know, is the fact that those commercials when ESPN decided to hire a big time advertising agency to make this is Sports Center, right? To have our personalities come out and have
Starting point is 00:08:08 athletes come in and donate their compensation to charity and they all wanted to do it. And we felt like we were movie stars on these 10-hour movie sets all day and then do a show at night at the same day and not get paid extra. But that was a game changer I felt for
Starting point is 00:08:25 ESPN and Sports Center because that made us real and genuine and fun. We were allowed. It was like the handcuffs were off. At least it was for me. Because the first few years when I was there, I didn't want to upset the apple card. I was a woman in a man's world. I didn't want to do.
Starting point is 00:08:40 I mean, even what I wore was so conservative. You know, I mean, I was like, although, you know, early 90s, it wasn't like, look at me kind of thing now. Oh, but you weren't that conservative. I can't imagine what executive ghoul approached you when you described Mike Piazza home run. Mike Piazza, Master Batter. Master batter, like, you weren't that conservative.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Well, you know me, Dan. This is it. But they didn't let the reel me out. And then one time I snuck it out and I got in trouble. Yeah, you know, the pressure of having catchphrases, right? I mean, everyone had it. The late great Stuart Scott was the master of it, of course. And I felt a little bit of pressure.
Starting point is 00:09:21 I'm like, oh, right, you know. And my friend, Susie, who lives in North Carolina, she had a softball team called the Master Batters. And then it just clicked on, came to me. And I thought, oh, this is so subtle. Apparently, it wasn't subtle. Not subtle. But does that rank as the most trouble that you got into,
Starting point is 00:09:39 or is there a story better than that one? Mike Piaz on Home Runs, Master Batter. No, I think that's it. Yeah, I think that's it. I think it's something I'm proud of. I wrote about it years ago in my book, Conehead, where I had a funny look at my life and my professional personal career up to that point.
Starting point is 00:09:56 But yeah, that was it, Dan. I'm sorry to disappoint. There was nothing controversial to my not. I did get suspended, though, once by John Skipper. You know, I think it was like a day or something. I mean, it was basically, you know, it was like athletes when they get suspended and they still get paid. That was what this was. I think I ripped the company.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Not ripped them, but I just made my opinion about something. I don't even remember what it was, but it was back when politics weren't a big deal. deal. Now, Ms. Linda Cohn, I do believe. Yeah, yeah, it was just something, I don't know what it was now. And also, another time I got reprimanded, but not suspended. I remember back in the day, Sidney Crosby, when he suffered all those concussions, and he did a press conference on, and ESPN took it live, but they only took it for like a couple of minutes. And I went on Twitter, Dan, and the guys, I said, I can't believe
Starting point is 00:10:55 you're not staying with us for the entire thing. We're talking about Sidney Crosby. The guy just suffered multiple concussions. His career might be in jeopardy. I literally put it all out there. And then one of the bosses at the time texted me and said, Linda, will you please take that down? You're ripping the company. Linda, you've done more additions to SportsCenter than anyone more than 5,000. What are your memories of the very first one in terms of butterflies or nerves or whatever. Yeah, kind of like you, right? You guys all have butterflies, right?
Starting point is 00:11:28 The first time you did something that you have never done before. Admit it, that's how I was. But I couldn't have been luckier to have Chris Myers, the great Chris Myers as my co-host for the first sports center. It was at 2 a.m. Eastern on a Saturday night. You heard me 2 a.m. Eastern. Yeah, I spent my life for the first couple of years that kind of schedule. But I loved it because it was highlight.
Starting point is 00:11:53 driven. But yeah, I was a little nervous, but Chris made me feel right at home. And again, I just didn't want to screw anything up. I just didn't want to mispronounce a name, even though I've had great upbringing and my work in Seattle really prepared me. I would never screw up hockey names, of course. But my work in Seattle, there were a lot of like Native American names of towns, and I was ripped when I screwed up those names. So I vowed to myself, I will always get it right when it comes to pronunciation. So that was what was on my mind. And then for the first few minutes,
Starting point is 00:12:28 then I was golden. Then I was like, let's go. Can you top me when I go all in with the best hockey name being Rootselanin? Do you have something, do you have something better for me than Rootselan? Oh, man, Rutselan. There's just so many.
Starting point is 00:12:43 This is, you know, they used to be, you're right, back in the day, also they were so much better. But I think, wow, I don't know if I can top you for that. man you don't have to that's okay I win I like my hand hey Dan but can you spell it oh god no
Starting point is 00:13:00 do you want to hear from the fake John Skipper again he was interrupted before and he fell on the floor give it another try fake John Skipper thank you Dan Lebertart I do believe Miss Linda will have to sit out a day of work we will pay her of course but she can come back
Starting point is 00:13:17 in a 24 hours time That was foghorn leghorn at the end. Dan, do you approve that? Wait, wait, wait, I got to get Dan's okay. You like that impression? No, I do declare that it is a decent impression. I hate it. It is foghorn leghorn all the way.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Take that up with him. He's the one that decided to start sounding like foghorn leghorn. Linda, congratulations. We're all dating ourselves. We're all dating ourselves with longer and Lakemore references, by the way. That's what I'll give you three stars. I'll give you three stars. Very charitable. Very charitable.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Linda, I delight. Congratulations. Thank you for being on with us. And congratulations on a truly amazing career, three and a half decades. That is nuts. Thank you, Linda. Yeah, thanks so much. Follow me at Linda Cone Sports on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:14:13 More to come. Dan, you're the best. You guys are awesome. Thank you. You're a legend, Linda. Thank you. Yes, that's right. At Linda Cohn Sports on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Real quick here, can you get for me some sort of commentary anywhere from the internet, someone, anyone, anywhere celebrating or being neutral about what it is that Boston and the Boston Celtics just did? I got a note from the Mike Scher. I reached out to him. I said, what's your comment? Dot, dot, dot. He goes, here's my comment. Put Tatum's rings in a box.
Starting point is 00:14:47 put Bam's rings in a box and see which box has more rings. He added, you can have Janus. We'll take PG and we'll see who's better when we face off in the second round of the play-in tournament. Miami losing 7-8 game, Celtics winning 9-10 game. Loser. I was scoring at home. That's just one more ring. Can you get me, please, the critical tweet from a fellow journalist. who called me a ghoul so that I can read it to the audience off of the internet.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Here is Zach Schwartz. Dan is a hack, and Perlman is such a blowhard. Dan hasn't asked a critical question to a guest in eight years, and Perlman is mad that Strayhan didn't try to get Chris Johnson to blame football for his ALS diagnosis. Ghoulish weirdos, both of them, just look at their replies. It's been three years. Dan Levitar.
Starting point is 00:15:49 I'm not going to apologize. I wouldn't expect you to apologize. You're a giant infant. Okay. You have no control over your emotions. You have no control over your emotions. When you're calling someone you know an idiot, I don't deserve it. I don't deserve it.
Starting point is 00:16:04 And you're a fool for saying it. Okay. Great, Corey. You're a fool. I was kind of following. Oh, you're locking in right now. You're locking in on eyes? Yeah, all right.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Let's drop the gloves, pal. You should be thanking me Every day For what? For what? For what? For what I've done around this character? And the second shit gets real for you?
Starting point is 00:16:24 You want to come at me and call me a fool? Huh? No, no, no. No, no. Seriously. Seriously, pal. I've added 10 years to your career. This is the DeLibata show. So ever since we let the audience know what our records were,
Starting point is 00:16:38 I'm 2 and O. How does that make you feel? Like, shit. I just wanted to make sure you felt like, Let's start the show. Welcome to the pitch clock. Here's the pitch. A two-part baseball segment.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Combining a nostalgic baseball trivia game and an interview with an expert. This is the pitch clock. Pitch clock is back. We started? Hi, everybody. Have you been congested for three weeks? I know, it's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:17:12 You sound crazy. I know it's really hauling us outside. Olivia, yell into the microphone how you feel about that. Disgusting. It's disgusting. It's true. So, we have baseball to get to here, though, and we have baseball trivia to get to as I'm trying to make a three in a row. So, Ethan, what do we got going on?
Starting point is 00:17:29 All right? We're a few weeks late to the trend, but never too late to the party, right? As long as you show up, that's all that matters. So we are going to play 162NO. This is a favorite of the horn section recently, guys. So we're going to hop in right here, and Jeremy, you are on. a streak right now. You have won two in a row. You're going for three. The ball is yours. You have won the coin toss. The ball is mine. Would you like to go first or second? I defer. All right,
Starting point is 00:17:55 you're going to defer your option to the second half. So Chris Cody, you're going to see the standard. You are going to go first. You're going to set the standard for us. Now, what we're going to do is, we're going to play the modern version of 162 and L. So this is the 80s and later. And we're going to go with the stats visible version. That's smart. So if you can watch in the corner here, wherever you are on your screen, you'll be able to at least jog your memory a bit about some of these players. For those of you who want to play along or play your own version of this, if you haven't, it's diamond-hyphen draft. That's where you play 162 and O to build a perfect amount. Right off the tongue.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Man of the people. Chris Cody, are you ready? No. Okay. Well, you better be. All right. Now I'm ready. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:18:33 All right. Your first spin. You got the New York Mets of the 2020s. And is this like the other one where I can do a decade and a team? One each on team and decades. And also, just so the audience knows as well, you need a person at each position as well as DH, a starting pitcher and a relief pitcher. And when you play this game, it's through rankings so the best players are right there at the top. Okay, this is 2020s.
Starting point is 00:19:07 I'm going to go with Jacob de Grom. It's smart. It's a great pick. Jacob de Grom is great. So your starting pitchers now taking Jacob de Grom is your starting pitcher. All right. Next up. The St. Louis Cardinals of the 2020s as well. Give me a little scroll ski. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:21 You got Goldschmidt, Aeronado, Contreras. All right. Give me Goldie. All right. Goldschmidt, future hallfamer. Would you like to assign him to first base or DH? First. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:32 This is a smart play. I don't know if I was smart, but here we are. All right. Next up. The Atlanta Braves of the 2000s. Oh, this is the good stuff. You got chipper. Gary Sheffield.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I'll go Chip. Chipper. I'll go Larry. Third base, left field or DH? Left field. Left field. My favorite part of this game is that because it includes like everyone, it's like there are relievers who pitched three games that will be at the top. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Yeah. And their numbers were good. I think that's spin it. It's a flaw in the game. But I think it's kind of fun. Our 2020. MLB expert is one of my favorites. Jordan Schusterman of the baseball barbecast.
Starting point is 00:20:15 joins us yet again. He's back and I'm happy to have him here. And we've got a variety of things to get to. I want to start with you in New York, Jordan, because New York baseball is in one of the strangest places I've seen it in quite a while because not only are the Mets metzing everywhere, reaching 50 losses in a season quicker than any time in the last three decades.
Starting point is 00:20:43 But the Yankees have had a pretty dreadful June. As of the time of this recording, they had three or fewer hits in four consecutive games for the first time in franchise history. And they've now moved to one in 18 in their last 19 at Fenway Park in June, which is just a strange stat. But it's a fun one that I had to bring to you. But the question I have for you right now, Jordan, is actually, despite the fact that it might seem like an obvious question, who has it worse right now between the Yankees and the Mets? Yeah, this is an obvious question. It is an interesting one. And I do not blame you for the framing because I, too, both on, you know, on our podcast and just over the year since I've been doing this, it is always fun to compare these two teams, these two fan bases, these two experiences.
Starting point is 00:21:32 and that's true almost no matter what time of year we're talking, right? This can be a fun conversation in December, depending on what those teams are doing in the off season and how they're choosing to add, right? You think about the comparison comparing the leadership and all the turnover in the front office and the coaching staff compared to the Yankees, which has been the same, the same, the same. Boone, Cashman, Boone, Cashman, no matter what.
Starting point is 00:21:57 And Yankees fans being tired of it, and yet they keep winning. However, we are talking about a team that not only is still in the Yankees, you know, 12 games over 500 with by far the best rent differential in the American League. Right. You're also talking about a team that has never even sniffed, you know, below 500 in years and years and years, let alone 15 games under before you even get to July. And so because of that, and you consider just how much chaotic roster movement, the mess. have opted into over the last year and how poorly it has gone, the Mets are in a terrible place. But how about one of the weirdest teams in baseball? The Chicago Cubs, because they were 14 over, like, pretty early into the season.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Then they lost 14 of 16 near the end of May. Now they're 8 and 2 in their last 10 at the time of this recording. They're a team that's had 10 walk-offs this season, which leads Major League Baseball. and they just picked up David Peterson because, and this is a stat that Ethan, our producer provided for me, the Cubs presently have seven pitchers on both the 15-day-I-L
Starting point is 00:23:08 and the 60-Day-I-L. That's what's happened to their pitching. And yet, here they stand just like four back of the Brewers who have been one of the best teams in baseball. How have they done this? Yeah, I don't know, man. I saw the Cubs at their low point
Starting point is 00:23:24 in at the end of May. I saw them in Pittsburgh up close right at the end of that 11 or 10 game losing streak or whatever was after they had won 10 in a row twice early in the season. And Jed Hoyer spoke about the pitching depth and how it's like, oh my God, it's so bad. I can't believe how injured we are. All right, it's fine. We'll get Boyd back and Cabrera back and we'll be fine. And, you know, our pitching gets really pushed to its limits.
Starting point is 00:23:51 The fact that it has somehow gotten so much worse. Like catastrophically worse. And yet they are winning and winning and winning again because the offense that's heated back up. This bullpen was kind of anonymous all along and is currently missing Palencia, right? Yeah, I mean, Palencia was the one guy coming into the season that you were like, all right, well, that guy's awesome. I don't know how they'll figure out the rest of it, but at least they have Daniel Palencia. That said, this is going to be tough to keep up.
Starting point is 00:24:24 I'm doing my power rankings right now. I'm writing about trade deadline stuff. And, you know, I just don't know how much longer the Cubs can wait. You know, they jumped on David Peterson. I have to imagine they're still making calls to see whether their arms they could acquire. But obviously right now, most of the league is still trying to decide whether they're buying and selling. So that's probably a tough conversation to have. Dan Levitar.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Can I tell you something? I don't know, it was maybe like a month ago. And I decided to watch pitch clock. And I told Jeremy. Jonathan Sassel. This is a good show you're doing. This is the Dan Levitar show. You got the twins of the kids.
Starting point is 00:24:56 80s. Okay. So you got Kirby Pucket in here. All right, Kirby Puckett. Easy. Okay. D.H. Centerfield or right field? Center field. Baltimore Orioles of the 2000s. Where's Cali? Oh, where we go? No. I'm gonna do Sammy Sosa. I was gonna say you are in that 941 OPS. Right field? Uh, yeah. The angels in the 80s. Oh, this is gonna be dry. Let's re-spin that I was gonna say you might want to respring the decade here. The 2010s.
Starting point is 00:25:26 That's I'll take my trout You got trout You got poo holes You got Otani Is taking trout Do I have any outfielders left Like outfield spots
Starting point is 00:25:35 No you don't You took them He took them at GH I'll take DH That's fine All right Trout is the right answer Now I need
Starting point is 00:25:42 Reliever catcher And then in Astros in the 2020s You've got Josh Hater You need that reliever You've got Jose Altoouva Ryan Presley I'll go out
Starting point is 00:25:50 Altuve You get that Infield Second base I mean infield The Pirates Infield The Pirates in the 90s
Starting point is 00:25:56 Jason Kendall, Bobby Bonilla at third heater. All right, I guess I'll go Kendall. Jason Kendall. It's actually not a bad move. That is. 850 OPS. You got to remember.
Starting point is 00:26:05 You're not going to do much better than that at catcher. Yeah, that's a good catcher. The Reds in the 90s. I mean, lucky you do. There's a Hall of Famer that jumps off the page. This is the obvious choice.
Starting point is 00:26:13 I know, but that's offense. I mean, that's defense. I mean, I guess I'll go Barry Larkin. It's not defense. He's good. That's a good, that's a good offensive shortstop. St. Louis Cardinals again of the 2010. So I have reliever and what left?
Starting point is 00:26:26 Reliever. Third basement. Third base. Matt Carpenter. Just go C-Sheck. Steve C-Sheck, I guess. Steve C-Shechek. Sure. Steve Seashk.
Starting point is 00:26:36 And finally, Oakland Athletics of the 2020s. Your guy here is going to be Matt Chapman. Okay. So Chris Cody went 90 and 72. I feel good. I feel like that's a great. Let's move on to the All-Star stuff we were talking about a little bit earlier because it's really strange time in All-Star.
Starting point is 00:26:56 voting. I mean, presently, Hazu Sanchez of the Blue Jays ended up being a finalist for the outfield in the American League, as well as George Springer at DH. This has really turned into a pretty big popularity contest. Does the All-Star voting need any sort of overhaul in your view? And if so, how? I don't know. Frankly, like, I don't care that much because
Starting point is 00:27:21 however you would change it if they had to be all the, like we're going to be yelling about snubs here at the end of, the week anyway. Right. But if you had the league completely decide it, there would be other problems with that. And I think the league would much rather have it be like, all right, go vote. You know what I don't want to hear about? Yankees fans complaining that more Blue Jays are getting votes, go vote for Ben Wright. Like if you're the Yankees, it's one thing for the small markets to not be able to compete for these starting spots. That's fine. But I don't know. I mean, you want to, I think this is personally, I don't care about this that much. I think that
Starting point is 00:27:55 the All-Star rosters are already goofy and also, by the way, as we know, there will be so many injury replacements and guys pulling out. So you're still going to get a lot of these guys in the game and I am a big proponent of making sure there's at least one player from every team. So, you know, it's a fun thing to yell about.
Starting point is 00:28:12 There are some goofy results. This is hardly new though. We've seen versions of this before. This is a strange year for it because of the state of the American League. But I don't, I don't know. I think, and especially in the case of like Yankees fans being upset that they're guys like
Starting point is 00:28:27 all right do something about it don't like it vote better more more anti-y propaganda here no I get it I'm the one suggestion I've seen that I can appreciate is essentially allowing the players
Starting point is 00:28:42 themselves to sort of narrow it down to about five guys and then have the fans vote from there so the players do the narrative because the players are involved in the votes after the fact the players and the coaches but you that that's do that first and then leave it up to the fans. And then leave it up to the fans from there,
Starting point is 00:28:59 which I think is productive, right? Yeah, I don't hate that. It might highlight some guys. It might like a perfect example. I mean, not to keep doing the Otto Lopez thing, but if you had a selection of five short stops and you weren't having to just like scroll and go find whoever amongst everyone, there might be more people who look at all of the stats and go,
Starting point is 00:29:18 wait a second, this guy is unbelievable. And he's not the only one. Like there's a million different positions that that we could talk. about from there. All right, let's talk Star of the Week. We always get to our golden era star of the week here on the pitch clock. A couple of guys for you to choose from to highlight. We've got Junior Caminero, and I saw a stat from him from Opta stats.
Starting point is 00:29:39 There are two, four game spans in the live ball era by a player 22 or younger with six homers and as many walks as strikeouts. It's Caminero and Johnny Bench. And then there's a catcher. Hunter Goodman, who has been spectacular for a Colorado team. Not a lot of people obviously pay attention to. 26 homers. That's second best in baseball at the time of this recording. 18 of those on the road.
Starting point is 00:30:04 So he is not a Coors Field merchant. Hunter Goodman or Junior Camerro, who would we like to shine the spotlight on this week? I think I am going to go with Goodman. A leg kick is not as crazy as it used to be when he was at Memphis. But it was just one of those swings and the kind of power that a lot of scouts were like, okay, he's got real juice. but is this guy from Memphis with this crazy swing
Starting point is 00:30:26 beaten up on bad competition? Is he really going to be the kind of guy that can hack it in the majors? Maybe he worked, especially because people doubted his defense too. And I know that that has fluctuated also since he's been in the majors. But that he has just raked and raked and raked and raked
Starting point is 00:30:41 and raked at every turn all the way up to the big leagues makes the All-Star game last year and now takes another step forward offensively is just really exciting. We might be looking at a 40-home or catcher, maybe a 50 homer catcher. I mean, I guess we'll see, as we saw last year, and even with Salvador Perez a few years ago, the bar for catcher slugging has certainly been raised. But yeah, I'll go with Hunter Goodman just because Camerero is unbelievable. I mean, we're talking
Starting point is 00:31:09 about like a potential Hall of Famer. So we'll be talking about him plenty for the rest of the season and for the rest of his career. Hunter Goodman, I don't know how much longer he's going to be able to keep this up, but I'm certainly impressed. And I want to make sure he gets the love. Caminero, Dan Lebitard's favorite player. Okay, too quick, yes or no answers before I let you go. Is Jacob Mizorowski the greatest pitcher who's ever lived? I guess no, if you're limiting me to that. We'll get into that at a later date. Are the Marlins going to make the playoffs? No. Sorry. Oh, God. All right, never mind. You won't be back at a later date. Jordan Schusterman, listen to the baseball barbecast with him and Jake Mintz. It is as good as any baseball coverage that exists anywhere.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Jordan, thanks so much for stopping by. All right, so I'm up here, and I've got to beat 90 and 72. Your first spin. The Dodgers of the 2000s. Well, I, for the Dodgers, ooh, boy. Dodgers of the 2000s, I'm going to make this one simple. I'm going to go man-ram and left field. Okay, here we go.
Starting point is 00:32:11 The Texas Rangers of the 2000s. A-Rod, please. I feel like you already have a better record than me. Third base, shortstop, 30-8. Shortstop, sir. Okay. Phillies of the 80s. Uh,
Starting point is 00:32:22 I mean, come on. You basically, it's either Mike Schmidt or Steve Carlton here. Hey, are you playing this game or what's happening?
Starting point is 00:32:29 Ryan Sandberg. Schmidt. Let's get better eyes. Third base, third base. I don't know. Third base. Wow.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Classic Abbott and Costello bit. Baltimore Orioles of the 2000s. Chris Cody had this one as well. Yeah, and I'm going to go ahead and take his boy, Sammy Sosa, and I'm going to stick him
Starting point is 00:32:48 in right field. Okay. Yeah, I like your team. Yeah. So right now I have... Off to a pretty good start here. The Rangers of the 2010s. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Ooh. So I don't have third base available or either outfield positions for cruiser Beltray, which means they would need to be DH. Right. And then for Cliff Lee, does that say he has an ERA under three? Yes, 295. Let's go Cliffley. Okay. That's a nice pick.
Starting point is 00:33:17 He was so good, man. The Dodgers of the 2020s. I wonder who you're going to take. Show Hey, O'Tonnie. So Cody got Trout and you got Showhead. What about reliever? Got him in DH. The Reds of the 80s.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Reds of the 80s. Rob Dibble, John Franco, Eric Davis in Centerfield. I will go John Franco. Okay. I'll take it. The O's of the 2000s again. Let's go with Raphael Palmero at first base. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:45 I want to have as many guys who did steroids as possible. The raise of the 2020s. Ooh, Jonathan Miranda, Brandon Lau, Harold Ramirez. This is for catcher, second base, or centerfield. Yes. I think I'm going to, I think I'm going to spend my team again. That's probably a wise choice. You got the Washington Nationals.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Ew. Of the 2020s. For our purposes, you cannot. Oof, this is gross. This is awful. Oh, what a bad. Oh. That's terrible.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Awful. Just for those listening at all. The top of this is Harold Ramirez, Luis Garcia. With a 729 OPS Harold Ramirez. Oh my God. Just for the fun of a name that we might like to say, Howie Kendrick. That is a name I like to say. I'm going to make him the second base.
Starting point is 00:34:40 He hit a very important home run in that world. But I'm going to be honest with you, Howie Kendrick might have just cost me this game. All right, catcher in center field are left. Let's give it a spin. The Texas Rangers of the 1990s. All right, we're going to go pudge. And finally, for a center fielder, the New York Mets of the 2010s.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Can you give me the OPS on Cespitus and Beltron? Cespitus 826, Beltron 805. And the home runs, respectively? 163 to 162. Let's go Caspidus. Wow. 104 to 58. 104 and 58.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Oh my god. Oh, no! He did the fake handshake and then wiped it through his hair!

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