The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: 10 POINTS?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Episode Date: May 22, 2024

Today's cast: Dan, Stugotz, Chris, Billy, Mike, and Tony. Last night's Celtics vs. Pacers game has our crew at each other's throats with polarizing opinions on both sides of the Jayson Tatum narrative. Stugotz was impressed by Tatum's 10 points in Overtime, but Mike Ryan is belligerently arguing that Tatum disappeared down the stretch, and he may have some support in the Shipping Container. Will this argument end in a physical confrontation? Then, it's time for the "J.J. Watt of the Day" and a discussion about what would happen if a MLB pitcher's arm fell off mid-pitch while holding the baseball and it was hit over the fence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Copyright 2024. Proximo. Jersey City, New Jersey. Please drink responsibly. There was a bit of news that broke yesterday that I thought broke too quietly. And I don't know how common knowledge this is. But do you realize how close we are, Stugats, to no longer having a chain-link measurement in football next year? I had no idea. What are you talking about? We're

this close to NO. Yes, we are a chain link away from having the technology. They're gonna test it all preseason. And if it works, they're still going to have the chain gang of old guys out there measuring it in the most antiquated way possible as backup in the case of an emergency, a power outage during the Super Bowl. Just keep an eye on it.

That's what they're doing. Can't they be in the tunnel in case we need them? Like, them doing it, the whole game never using it is odd. Just go to the bullpen? Like, keep them in like a room. And if the technology breaks, then we do them, like them doing it, the whole game, never using it is odd. Just go to the bullpen. Like keep them in like a room, and if the technology breaks, then we do the whole, all right, come on out. Like them doing it the entire season

and us never using it is sad. Well, here's the flaw in your particular plan. Yes, understood, they're gonna feel pretty useless. Until that one moment when the technology breaks down in a critical spot and they're in a janitor's closet because you didn't have them as the backup on the field. And we have replay. And then we'll have three days of coverage because an NFL football game got decided in the dumbest way possible.

How would the people that are physically measuring it in a tunnel work if they're not physically measuring anything? Well, he's saying don't use them until they're actually needed. This is the problem with his theory right you don't realize and I don't realize how dependent we are on technology until you lose that technology. The last couple of days I've been late getting in here because my garage door doesn't work and it just neutralizes my entire day. I can't get out anymore. You can't push it open. No that's right and so I like, do I Uber? But then I don't have my car when I get out of work. And so you don't know how much you rely on the technology until you've lost it.

Put it on the poll, Juju, at Levitard. Do you understand how much you rely on technology until you've lost it? But you want these guys to feel special. You do. And to have them out on the field and not use them to you know for what they're hired to do That doesn't make them feel spelled You know what makes them feel special when everything goes out and you need them and they're sitting in a closet in the tunnel And you call them out they get a standing ovation. That's how you feel special

Who wants the chain link gang to feel special? I do, I feel bad for them. Sounds like you're trying to cost some hard working American some hard working American jobs in an election year, which is a bad move. I'm trying to? Not you, the NFL. Sounds like no one's watching the UFL.

That's what it sounds like to me. Correct, yes. What other jobs in our society are just backups for technology? Like are there people that are going to work every day right now? And it's like I'm only here if technology every time I walk into a Walgreens and everyone's scanning their way out But there's one human being standing there who used to be the centerpiece of everything that they were doing But is now there just to check that you're not stealing things and to see if someone like me walks in and can't handle

your technology and is just looking for an old... I got you old man. Here you go. Just click this, click that. Scan your card here. Keep it moving. I was actually just told in my ear that we have multiple people on staff that are just here in case technology breaks down.

We should do a quiz of whether you know their names or not. We should bring all of them in. Please don't. One after another. We have many people here for the insurance of, if the whole thing falls to the ground, can Robert lift it back up? Which one's Robert? Write that down.

We've got four or five people here as emergency backups. I'd like to go. I'm guessing Muhammad just playing the odds. Where's GQ? I haven't seen him in a week. Oh. GQ? I don't even a week. Oh GQ is not his real name. I believe it's what you're calling because you don't know his real name No, there's a Danny there Danny GQ Danny GQ So many Danny's I

Need to address again Stu gots his contention that the chain-link gang needs to feel special is contention that the chain link gang needs to feel special. They're getting paid to not work. What am I talking about? You see that in the mirror sometimes, don't you? This is the Don Leventor Show with the Stugats Podcast. Today's episode is sponsored by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours.

I've got what I feel like are two pretty good stats of the days Dugat. I will give you both of them and you tell me which one you like better. Hit it. I will give you both of them and you tell me which one you like better hit it start of the day Start of the day in this year start of the day Start of the day start of the day in this year start of the day Start of the day start of the day in this year start of the day Start of the day start of the day. It is the start of the day, start of the day, it is the start of the day. So Stugat's Lydianian Tomlinson, this is from ML football,

has the same amount of career touchdown passes as Johnny Manziel. That's one stat of the day. Johnny football. The other one from last night that I believe to be the better stat of the day, Jalen Brown has never hit that shot before. That a game-tying shot or game-winning shot ten seconds or less, one of those clutch moments where everyone in the league shoots 18 percent

and Michael Jordan gets credit for shooting like 24% or keep taking the shot, that shot that Jalen Brown made in that situation, he has never made in a professional game. And that game last night was super interesting for a lot of reasons, because there are a few things in that game that are a little bit repeatable for the Pacers. The Pacers let one get away. I like that stat,

but I actually like that you're asking me. I like the first step better. A running back throwing for more touchdown passes than a quarterback. Same amount. Same seven. Seven is the total for both of them. Yes. Derek Henry might have more. He might.

I'm on that. I actually looked that up for us running back with the most career touchdown passes. I wasn't surprised when you said it because that was a huge part of LT's Arsenal was once he got down the goal line. He would just float one up there to a receiver. Were you surprised by Jalen Brown? Yeah, that was a cacossle. Come on. That's a once-in-a-lifetime shot. This is a rare game where both teams blew it.

Derrick Henry has four passing touchdowns. Put it on the poll, please. In the postseason too, that includes postseason? Put it on the poll at LeBattard Show. Was that a game that both teams deserved to lose last night? I've got some stats here, Stugats, that I think people will find interesting. Because if you have the ball and are up three

with 10 seconds left, you haven't lost a playoff game like that the century in in this century as a not a century in this century the last time it happened was ninety seven ninety eight but uh... just so that you understand the game the paces played last night twenty two turnovers is the second most they've had all season the Celtics have never

scored this season that many points off of turnovers it was a remarkably sloppy game the way the Pacers play points per possession that would have ranked a sixty seventh of the ninety six games they played this year's to God when they play that poorly against every month everyone not just the Celtics they're three and twenty seven this year that was a shit game the pacers put together even though their paces real good and the celtics aren't the same without porzingis they're more like the pacers

right and they'd like to be when they have to play al horford that number of minutes they're small like that that that team really needs porzingis and carlisle is saying after the game i'd be curious what's going to happen with this this one's on me it's just on me i didn't foul at the end i didn't call timeout and get the ball properly inbounded or at least inbounded on the other side of the court the big mistake and he pointed it out after the game was not taking that timeout when they could inbound the ball all they had to do was inbound the

ball and the game's over. That's it. It's a wrap. I mean and I love a coach coming out and saying, hey, that's on me. I do. I love when they do that. They're also replaying it right now on ESPN. That last inbounds pass and the the play itself is insane. You have five people going to the wrong side of the court going back court essentially when all you gotta do is throw it in the front court and make something happen over there. The last 11 seconds of the game is insane.

Mike, why are you pointing a thumb over there? My guy knows ball. Yeah, I was saying. Back court action is insane. It was on mute, but I was like, front court, front court, or subbing TJ McConnell. Maybe do that. He seems like he'd be hard to guard in that circumstance. I'm not going to do this to the Celtics though. I'm just not going to do it. Okay. Because

we criticize them the entire season. Jason Tatum is soft late in games. Jason Tatum in that overtime was great. Oh, get out of here. Get out of here. Get out of here. Get out of here. That dude disappeared in crunch time. And yes, he got the dagger when they slacked off of him like his name was Wooka Poplar and he dribbled into a contest. He missed a point blank bunny, he had a pick six turnover, that guy was begging out of that situation. The fact that he has 10 points in that overtime is miraculous. Where are the points? I saw a three and he got lucky with a terrible turnover that was a dunk, a ready-made dunk that he got.

He hit from the line. The Duke got bailed out by Rick Carlisle and Jalen Brown. All the things that we said about Jason Tatum, all the doubts that we have about his disappearing act in crunch time, those are still here. In fact, I got more of them. Only guy in double digit free throws for the entire game. Nobody else had double digit free throws.

Out of here with box score. That is like the most fraudulent 10 points I've ever seen. That dude disappeared again. So we're gonna do this. That was a bad turnover in regulation. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me just stop Mike for a second, okay? Because he's coming in.

He got locked down by Nessmith. Once Nessmith got fouled out then the game changed He's Smith is that's how much he doesn't even know his name He's a Smith he invented basketball. Mm-hmm. Please look up for me the doctor the last time Somebody scored ten points in an overtime Watching the game did you watch the game? Yes, I did. Mike, you can't say someone disappeared when I can counter with the stat of he's got more

overtime points in a playoff game since in blank. Dan LeBoucheard, look in my eyes. Watch me. That dude was a coward. Did you watch the game? That dude was a coward. Don't tell me the aggregated 10 points and let that be the headline. That dude disappeared. He was chicken shit personified on that court.

Get out of here. He got lucky because Jalen Brown hit a cagasso of all time and Rick Carlisle just blew that game. That dude was a chicken shit. All right. He hit me with box score. Box score Dan. I'm gonna hit you with He hit me with box score Dan. I'm gonna hit you with the penalty box. Box score Dan. Get out of here. I'm not even supposed to be here today. You pulled Paul Pierce.

Get out of here. Good, I'm gone the entire show. Paul Pierce is on our guest list tonight, I'm out. See ya. Get out of here. Good God, man. It's crazy. You can't accuse.

He scored 10 of the 60. Just a bunch of guys woke up, decided to Google the box score. Get the fuck out of here, that was terrible. Too many men on the ice, get him out of here immediately. Enough of that, nobody needs that this early in the morning. Basketball's played on board. Minor penalty, too many men.

A minor? It should have been a major, major asshole. It's too much for that in the morning, man. Final nine minutes and 44 seconds of regulation. Zero field goals. Zero for four. Two brick threes. A potential game-tining three with under a minute left.

The penalty box isn't in here. Maybe you got lost on the way. Couple of room stands. Keep Googling that. I don't disagree with, all right, take overtime away. He was bad down the stretch of regulation Yes, he made up for it a little bit, but I'm with Mike on there is something off with this dude late in games We can't criticize how he plays late in games and then he plays well late in the game

No, this is what I am gonna do I'm gonna urge the audience to check out what Tom Havstrow has written about the empirical failures of jason tatum latent games this season it's not something you're imagining your eyes are not lying to you it's something that can be sys statistically back but you're not allowed to tell me that someone disappeared in an overtime playoff game when they scored more points in an overtime playoff game than since blank. Tony, one of our producers, look up for me what the name is on the last time someone scored

because there haven't been playoff games this season that have had over times in them. We haven't had any of them. I have it, Jason Tatum's 10 points in overtime, the most for any player in a playoff game since Damien Lillard in 2021. In the last decade, it is tied for the third most points in an overtime. Steph Curry had 17 points, Dame Lillard had 12 points, and then there's three guys who have had 10 in the last decade.

So all I'm objecting to is the appraisal of Disappeared. And the reason I'm stopping, Mike, is he's coming in with, I hate the Celticsics and Tatum needs as much pressure on him as LeBron had in 2010. So he's finding all the ways he can to rip that team even when it wins. But Tatum feels the pressure like he knows they have an easy path, they're an overwhelming team, they've been the best team in the NBA the entire season, they're the best team when healthy like he feels that pressure don't you think? They are the best team when healthy but Stugats they're not that much different than what the Pacers are when Porzingis is out. I will

say that the Celtics still have if I said to the audience who do you want Halliburton or Siakam or Brown and Tatum I think most of the audience is going to take Brown and Tatum and if we keep going to Turner and everyone else you're going to keep taking Celtics but Porzingis unlocks some things for them. That you'll remember when they were very good on defense and had Robert Williams, he didn't stretch floor on offense and while he blocked shots, Porzingis does both things where he stretches floor on offense, takes threes from Foreverland and also rim protects and they miss him and they aren't a special they are a historically special team when he's out there Stu

gots I will tell you a couple of things that they do historically well look at what the Pacers did with free throws that's gonna repeat itself the Celtics do not foul they do not give you free throws you want to win a game with free throws it's gonna be very hard against the Celtics I think in the history of the sport very few teams defended like that without fouling they had ten last night The pace had said what was the discrepancy like something like 30 to 10 35 to 10 in a free throw to 10 Yeah, 30 to talk. Okay, so you've got that the other thing though That should concern the Celtics to guts because the way that you beat them

is that you prevent them from making their threes indiana defends the three very well they play at that pace yet and they defend the so that so do the celtics the celtics also defend the three well but there are some things that made themselves present in that game that i believe will be repeatable even though I don't think usually this stuff carries over from one game to the other. Their other issue too is Dan they have no bigs right without poor Zingus their big is Cornett their big is Al Horford. They have big Al. But that's it he's not a rim

protector he's a guy that plays in the perimeter. He had three blocks last night. Sure of course one of all I think was from behind but the point being they don't have bigs to contest against siakam against uh... miles turner and if you kind of move that extrapolate down the line if they see minnesota in the finals missiles got three big second play against anybody without porzingis they would not be the favorite to win against minnesota against minnesota in in this series they will be the favorite but after watching last night's

games to that and seeing what they are without porzingis i do believe that this is a difficult to match up for them that is more difficult than what the nix would have been in the state that the nix were going in their last night reminded me of the Knicks game three at Indiana, where they let that one get away, and the Knicks ended up losing the series. The Pacers played, they didn't play such a great game.

They had that game. They should have won that game. They let it get away, Dan. So for me, next game, like I feel like, because I love the psychology of sports, the Celtics will be a much better, much more relaxed team, and the Pacers have to live with hat man We were six seconds away from winning stealing game one on the road

We didn't get it done and I expect these Celtics are gonna blow him out. You got 35 points They did not the Pacers did not deserve to win that game They did not play that that was one of the worst games the Pacers have played this season with the basketball Yeah, so they had a chance to win it at the end but it was confusing to me with 10 free throws and 22 turnovers how they had a chance to win it at the end and I think it's at least in part because the Celtics aren't the same kind of special unless you give them complete health. That bench looks awfully thin in the condition that it's in.

Doing a lot with Porzingis here, man. I mean- So God's, he's changed, he unlocked a bunch of different stuff for them. I understand why the name Porzingis wouldn't do anything for you, but offensively there's no disputing what it is that he unlocked for them. Three players off the bench for the Celtics, Sam Houser, Luke Cornett, Peyton Pritchard. It's bad. That's it.

It's a bad. Those are the only bench guys I got minutes. It's a bad bench. We have talked before about how important Derek White has become. He has become a wildly improved basketball player that I'm guessing everyone listening to this, what are you laughing about?

Just Mike. Would take, if you're drafting all the players in this series, that's the one we're taking fifth, correct? Or are you taking him fourth? Are you taking him ahead of Siakam? Like if we're drafting all of the players in this series, how high is Derek White going up if you had to select somebody?

It is hotter in here than it was yesterday when we knocked out a couple of people with the air conditioning are working those servers overtime trying to google how we got to ten points right are you taking darick white over jason's my i think i think they're quite scared of being like any p this series for him it and if if you think it's hot in that city imagine how hot the breath of jason tatum was on darick white snack

as he was hoping, hoping, and praying Please let me hand the ball off to you and you make something happen here. They doubled him late The reason why he had that dagger three was they doubled Derrick White The thing that I have to guard against with you is that your hatred for this team and this franchise is so high that I believe that the passion that you just expressed for basketball this season is all fueled by rage hate. I didn't think I'd enjoy it that much

without the heat playing, but I did enjoy it. And to the credit of basketball, the last three playoff games have been great. I think a lot of you guys, especially, and I'm speaking directly to the cast members on this show, just because I'm complaining about something doesn't mean things can't turn around and I can then pivot. I'm not married to the idea that this sport is broken beyond repair. I like to see good games and I'm not married to the take that Jason Tatum is going to

disappear forever more. I would just like to see it. I caught a lot of hell for asking to see it from Seth Curry. Saw it, thank you, very good then, MVP, best player on the court, legendary performance. I move on with my day. Broken beyond repair is something you have to be married to because there's no repairing it, it's beyond repair. Well, I think the game can be repaired easily.

Then it's not broken beyond repair. Yeah, well, like I said, that was not my take. But it just gets assigned to me. And when Tatum does something, because this is a numbers game and Lord knows that dude's played plenty of playoff games, eventually he'll ascend. But I still have questions about the guy. I want to see it. I don't want to see Derek White be the best player.

I want to see Jalen Brown bailing his ass out. I want to see Jason Tatum fulfill the prophecy and be the guy the commercials are telling me he is. I think I found something we can all agree on. That was the least impressive 10 point overtime performance we've ever seen. It was ridiculous. I just kept getting hit with 10 points

and I'm the guy that doesn't watch basketball. The dude disappeared for damn near 20 minutes get out of here you saw the others Chris I mean let's uh we need to turn down the temperature on some of what it is that is happening well it's just I got hit with box score Sue and box score Dan I watch the game Mike did you notice three of them out again oh I'm sorry did I needle you, Dan LeBataille? No, get out of here! No! It's just- 13 points! Mike, it's obnoxious!

13 minutes! Out! Out! It's obnoxious! Oh yeah, let's get Sam Urell on! Let's be more obnoxious then! Get out of here! Are we just pivoting to the self-assault? Out!

Out! Didn't you threaten to leave for the whole show? Get out! I threatened to leave for Paul Pierce. I don't know why he keeps getting booked. He's not a stand-up comedian. Out! Paul Pierce I don't know why he keeps getting booked he's not a stand-up comedian out I don't like the did you watch the game and nothing else after it out Mike literally provided good good good good literally provided for those

that are just listening to our show, let's talk about this. I hope he drags you out. Let's talk about this. He's gonna drag you out. First field goal was in OT. He's dragging you out. First field goal, 13 minutes and 32 seconds without a field goal. He's dragging you out.

Those two points came on a fast break because he got fouled. The dude lived on the line. The dude lived on the line. Keep going. He was a chicken shit! Keep going, here's another mic for you. Here, hold on. Hold on.

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How irrational? Stugats! How am I irrational? Did you not hear your voice there? Yeah, my boy, dude. Your voice... If I were making a cartoon thing that was meant to symbolize irrational, that's the voice I would give it.

Entire premise. This is the Dan Lebatar Show with the Stugats! ["The Stugats Theme Song"] He's doing it irrationally, but I don't disagree with what he's saying. Oh, will you knock it off? I'm serious. What are you talking about? Listen, criticize him when he actually doesn't do something, but last night he did something. So give him credit.

He was bad late in that fourth. Like he was bailed out by, if Jalen Brown. The Celtics were bad. They were bad. They should have lost should have lost the game the Pacers were terrible in the last two minutes Nobody wanted to win that game everyone was bad Halliburton dribbled the ball off of his knee When the game was over with 11 seconds left Halliburton dribbled with his left hand off his knee out of bounds basically all right But Chris you can't agree with the Tatum take. I was not impressed with him.

Even in overtime. I'm with Mike outside of that three. Like it wasn't like he just dominated. Right. But the Pacer scored 11 points in overtime. Tatum scored 10. He bailed himself out by getting 10 points. I can't argue with the 10 points, but I'm just going to say,

I'm not leaving that game thinking, oh, this is the best player in the NBA. Are you okay? Again, I'm very warm and- Sweating. And I think that there are many exit ramps between scoring 10 points in overtime and the accusation of someone disappearing

because all the other players who didn't disappear didn't score that many points in overtime and so i'm just asking for some sort of uh... degrees on how we talk about this but when you're starting point is the moment the playoff started and the heat lost the game mike ryan traded bam on a bio again the celtics came very close to giving mike ryan the best feeling he's had in basketball this entire season which is losing that game at home they denied him it and now this is what you get today and he's not wrong that tatum has to

show us something as the guy who wins the reason that that team wins. But last night he showed you something. He was not the reason Stu, even with the 10 points. I get it guys, but we criticize him, particularly at the end of games. And at the end of last night's game, he scored 10 points.

That's all I'm saying. But the point- How am I being the rational one? The point that he's making is if not for Jalen Brown, bailing his ass out with a very lucky shot today's conversation would have totally been about what happened to Jason Tatum at the end of that game. He was given more game.

This reminds me of all the stuff that Derek Jeter did in the postseason because he was in the postseason so often. Thank you Billy for a contribution that's fundamentally useless. Thank you Billy. Did the Celtics win or did the Pacers lose? Oh good question. Derek Jeter played an entire regular season 162 games in the postseason so he was not afraid of postseason basketball. Jason Tatum is going to get so many shots to win basketball games that he's going to score ten points in an occasional overtime it seems like you're agreeing with mike i'm just bringing him slightly closer to the middle

it can be it doesn't have to be the absolute of he either disappeared or he's michael jordan can we stop at some stuff some exit ramps between those two things on the irrational that i'm not saying he's michael jordan because no Jordan can we stop at some some exit ramps between those two things I'm being rational dad I'm not saying he's Michael Jordan because no one is Michael Jordan and certainly not Anthony Edwards What a joke, but anyway what I'm saying is let's criticize him after a loss where he doesn't do anything It was a strike. I can I have an exit ramp we can let's get off here here Let's get off at this exit. I'm gonna talk Panthers final minutes of regulation, zero points for Jason Tatum. That's correct.

He got his ass bailed out, but then. Final five minutes, he had 10. That's correct. But if not for Jalen Brown hitting a shot he's never hit before, we would be talking, that was the game last night we'd be talking about, and Stugats, you particularly would be in here crushing Jason Tatum, who you have said is Kevin Durant.

Yeah well he was last night. Better. No. All right you go sit with Mike. Well come on! You go sit with Mike. He was not better than Kevin. He was the... Ten boys. Okay I have... He's holding up a mirror now. I think he's saying that you're saying what he's saying. I think this is at Dan the mirror he's holding. I'm not saying that Jason he's saying that you're saying what he's saying I think this is that Dan the Mary's I'm not saying that Jason Tatum disappeared That is not what I'm saying

What I am saying is if Mike looks in that mirror what you'll see is a hater right hater on that mirror Write the word hater on it because what you will see is it is clear that the Celtics Celtics fans must love Listening to what the last 24 minutes of this have been the voice of the heat Wailing and gnashing and crying about the Celtics winning a game that way last this for sure is Mike He late in that fourth quarter. He's like, I know my take for tomorrow This is great and then the game kind of changed and he's just like, you know what I'm sticking with it We all have the power to shape the world. We're connected to the world we share, to each other.

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Stugats. Oh, it's a good call. Thank you. And plus it doesn't matter who's hitting it like you're not tailing it to a particular name. Correct. You know all that jazz you know you don't gotta do that. Oh that would be a great call. That kind of swing that kind of thing. This is the Don LeBattar Show with the Stugats. Billy and Stugats want to debut a new segment right now, the JJ Watt of the day. So do you have any imaging here for our new segment? Ladies and gentlemen, the JJ Watt of the day. Billy what is this segment?

Who's the JJ Watt of the day? Well the JJ Watt of the day today is Paul, wow. The Pittsburgh Pirates mustache, 100 miles an hour. That guy, yeah. Why, everyone is very excited about his debut. He's clearly a power arm who's gonna be dominant if pitching doesn't wreck his arm the way it does everybody's. Which it will, yes, spoiler alert.

His arm's gonna fall off, but that's okay. Right. Anyways, Paul Skeen. Enjoy it while you can. Yeah. Enjoy these three starts because his arm may fall off of his body. I think I saw the fastest 10 pitches in the MLB this year.

He has nine of them. Yeah, nine of 10 of the fastest. No, by a starting pitcher. Have you guys ever? Because starting pitchers know I shouldn't throw 103 every pitch. Who has the other pitch? Soriano from the Yankees.

Yeah. Oh yeah. Look at that. That's on top of your head. Come on. It's not here. Look, I got the box course. Have you guys ever seen the horrifying video of Dave Dravecki, his arm breaking during a pitch? Oh, the worst. Yeah. It's terrible. Skeens, what you're alleging is if you keep throwing that hard,

one day a batter's going to swing at your arm. Like your arm is going to go up there about 84 miles an hour. What is the ball stays in your arm when your arm flies off and you hit the ball? Is it in play? Huh, that is a great question. It is, but none of this has to do with why he is the JJ Watt of the day. We'll get to that in a second, but if I toss a ball that is stuck in my glove to the first baseman that is an out that has happened before in the sport where the ball gets lodged in the glove of the pitcher and the pitcher just tosses the entire glove to the first baseman what you're saying is ground ball to short

it's got skeins to two pitch ground ball to short it's got skeins his arm on it his dislodged arm the throw over first, and now the first baseman is catching Skeens's arm with the ball in it. It's an out, yeah, it's an out. All right, how about this scenario? Skeens's arm is stuck on the ball, you hit the ball, get a hold of it, the arm bounces on the warning track,

and the ball goes over, but the ball never hits the ground. Is that a home run or a ground rule double? Hmm. Gotta go ground rule double there, because the ball never hits the ground. Arms part of home run or a ground rule double? Hmm. Gotta go ground rule double there because the ball never hits the ground. Arms part of the ball though, guys. No, it's not. Hands part of the ball.

No, not in baseball. Hands part of the ball. Wrong sport. That is a home run. Put it on the pole, please, Juju, at LeBotard Show. If the pitcher's arm falls off holding the ball and then is hit to the warning track. The batter gets a hold of it.

It's important to phrase it that way. Like where the shoulder is to the warning track. The batter gets a hold of it. It's important to phrase it that way. Like where the shoulder is hits the warning track. So the ball is as far from the wall as you can, and then it goes over. You want all this in there? Isn't that an out immediately? What do you mean? It's an out.

Because if a player catches a baseball that's hit straight up the middle to the pitcher, we've seen that a pitcher barehand it, that's an out. All they have to do is catch it. So the second the batter makes contact with the ball with the arm still holding onto it. But the ball never loses, he never loses contact with the ball though.

But the hand is holding onto the ball. It's like essentially you're tagged. No, I think, no, because if the arm, if you, okay, so if you go to Rob a home run, and somehow the person's arm is severed on the wall and the ball goes into, this is a different person. This person catches the outfielder, catches the ball, their arm hits the wall, is severed,

and the arm goes over the wall with the ball. I believe that would be a home run. So I think someone would have to catch Paul's arm for it to be an out. What if the arm is in play but the ball is out of play? Could happen. But it's like catching a foul ball. I think you're out the second you make contact.

I don't think any of what we're presently discussing can happen. Yeah. Go ahead. I could text him, but I don't even know what to text him. In that first scenario where the shortstop gets the ground ball with the guy's arm attached to the ball, that's a heck of a throw. How do you throw it? You throw the ball out of his hand? No, you gotta throw the arm like an axe. You throw the whole arm? Like, you know, like the axe bars,

you go, like that? I would think you'd throw the arm like, over your head. And then you hope that somehow the first baseman gets the ball. That's the thing about axe throwing that I don't get is, how does the axe head normally find that wall and it's not like the handle?

Cause most of the time, the axe head finds it somehow. I think it's gravity really Yeah, yeah, something sometimes. They've got these up down not if front back if this ever happens Everyone's gonna be horrified at the severed arm. They'll be distracted exactly right I will be locked into that finish the way where the umpires like gather to figure out What's what could it be a balk? I think this is a balk that's it never the ball never leaves It never leaves the guy's hand. it's 100% a Bok. But if the ball's in play,

then does it become the decision of the offensive team? What I will tell you guys when you ruin this by calling it a Bok is that just like Jason Kelsey, I'm sorry, Travis Kelsey had that lateral in the game that was disallowed because of Kadaria's Tony lining up off sides and us blaming the referee For ruining something if the umpires called a balk in this situation and denied us the following Conversation yeah, whether it's an out the axe throw the home run Is it a ground rule double if it's a balk if it's just a balk that would be really disappointed

But if the bases are empty then it can't be a balk. That's true. I Believe we have a balk with the runner on. Can you balk's just a block that would be really disappointed if the bases are empty then it can't be a box. That's true I believe they have a bottle on Yes, I think it becomes a ball. I think a ball. No that's ball B. All yeah, there's a K I have box I believe that if a pitcher the K is a strike Yeah, that's a strike out and if it's a backwards K, then it's strikeout looking. Thank you Using we need a we need to text him. What if you hit it right back in the picture? Then you get three strikeouts and everyone's like, what do we do?

And the pitcher catches his own arm. Well that's definitely an outcome. But it might have been enough. You don't like the optics of the three strikeouts. We've got a lot of conversations going on at once. I'd like to rein it in. We haven't gotten to the JJ Watt of the day just yet. I believe you can have a balk without runners on base.

Do I have this wrong? It's not a traditional balk, but I thought that there are certain things a pitcher could do that would result in a batter getting one ball in his favor because with nobody on base, the pitcher had done something. I don't know. Nester Cortez puts on an entire dance performance

when no one's on base. If no runners are on base and the pitcher commits an otherwise bulkable action, there's generally no penalty Generally, I'm seeing the opposite of that I'm seeing that if there's a balk with it with no runners on that a ball is Issued so we got to the bottom of this All right, why is why is so one of the picture catches his own or get back to that student then that's an out? Okay? That's why unless the ball hits the ground if the ball is touching the ground when he catches his arm Then the ball hits the ground AI is saying that you can't balk with no runners on the Iverson said that Yeah, but it's not a balk because if you do something illegal with no runners on base. They issue a ball

It's a ball. It wouldn't be a balk, but it is a balk It's just the way they issue a ball. It's a ball not a ball. It wouldn't be a balk but it is a balk it's just the way they issue the penalty it's with a ball. But Allen Iverson said no. If the pitcher drops the ball but no one's on base it is ignored with no penalty. So I think the same rule applies that if if the ball drops while an arm is attached to it. I don't know what the ruling is on that we will check with Tim Kirch and we will also at some point this segment, I'm assuming, find out why he's the JJ Watt of the day, even though Hail to the Chief has now stopped playing. We've run out of the music for-

It's a short bed, that's why it is. But I would like to just explore- You wanna get to the JJ Watt of the day? In a second. Okay. Good tease. Getting there, trying to get there, but if you're confused about anything that's

happened so far, I will clarify it for you. A ball, if you add a K to the end of it becomes a balk, but the K is a strikeout and you have to take away an L and all of this is very confusing. But if a human arm falls off of the pitcher and is hit to the warning track and then lands on the warning track i believe that uh it is immediately an out just because a an arm of a defender has the ball in its hand and has caught it before it has hit the ground and therefore is an out i don't think so i think hand in the ball still applies though i know it's a different sport but you can't say that it's a hit, right?

Without the ball dislodging from the severed arm from the hand, right? In this scenario, do we have the ligaments and muscles so tight around the ball that you can't get the ball out of it? The ball needs to come free. Okay, hold on a second. Now, if the arm is still attached

and somehow instead of the bat making contact with the ball it makes contact with the back of the hand because of the way that it's spun. If a bat hits a catcher's hand, that's catcher's interference. So would it be pitcher's interference? I just love our work environment. Mike just stepped out making a serious dictation of a text

where he's just like, Tim, if an arm is severed and the ball is still in the, it's just like as he's trailing away from me, just a ridiculous sentence. We need to do it. Someone had to do it. Yeah, exactly. Why is he the J.J. Watt of the day? Ah, Dan, thanks for asking.

So according to ML Football on X, Pirates' phenom pitcher Paul Skeens plans to go serve in the U.S. military once he's done with his baseball career according to his former coach Mike Kozlowski. Quote, it's a big deal for Paul to be able to serve our country. Such a big deal, Dan. If it's a big deal, do it now and stop pitching.

But such a big deal to Paul that he transferred away from the military. He left the Air Force Academy to pursue a baseball career. How about that? That is JJ Watt. But those are the types of things you say when you leave the military to play Major League Baseball. You tell him one day, I will get back to the military.

He's never going back to the military. I assure you, he has no plans and I'm not certain the military will want him at the age of 40, but he has no plans of going back to the military. Well, if it's missing though, yeah, then do they take him? Right. Is he eligible to serve? You think once he's pitched 15 years in the majors, if he makes it that long, he's amassed, I don't know, 70, 80, 90, 100 million dollars, whatever he makes over that time frame. More than that.

You think the first thing he's gonna do is go back and fly a fighter jet? Like what's the matter with you? Ted Williams did miss the prime of his career. Thank you for mentioning true American. Flying a fighter jet. Was that by choice? Of course. No, no.

He had to. No, I believe that was drafted. I also want to exonerate Skeens here. You've called him the JJ Watt of the day, even though this is a former coach being quoted. He's not saying anything. JJ Watt would the day, even though this is a former coach being quoted. He's not saying anything. JJ Watt would say that wrapped in the American flag with a bald eagle on his shoulder while driving a tank

he made out of American pies. That's fair. Apple pies and cherry pies. Totally fair what you're saying. I believe this is also the coach at the Air Force, so this could be like the ex that's like, yeah, we'll get back to you. Well, I just don't think it's fair to take him out

as the JJ Watt of the day when he hasn't said anything all he's done is throw the hardest you let your coach leak that out you want that out coach you say it test the waters coach you say it just text me on the back and let's see what I criticized I left the left the Air Force Academy everyone's crushing me nobody's criticizing everyone is leaving the air what are you talking about the pressure to say it i mean why say it i mean i know he did say it what are you doing you don't think he ever told that to his manager you don't think there was a reason he told his manager that what are you doing jj what day. I know, but he didn't say anything. All he did was throw 101 miles an hour.

He's being quoted by someone who was in his past. He didn't have to say it, did. I mean, to anybody? Yeah, he didn't have to say it. When it's in your heart like that, your coach knows it. I mean, they have the opportunity to say it. It's in your heart. Tony, go look up the years of his prime,

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