The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Above My Britches

Episode Date: August 26, 2024

Today's cast: Dan, Stugotz, Chris, Billy, Mike, and Roy. Roy can struggle with public shows of joy, but he is exuberant after his weekend taking down Hall of Famers in a BBQ competition in Key West! Then, Pat McAfee had himself a weekend, but college football itself had a bigger one as Dan was blown away by the excitement surrounding Week 0 and FSU's loss to Georgia Tech. Plus, Shady McCoy races Aaron Donald, Billy Gil and Stugotz are headed to Kansas City to open the NFL season, and what's a good story without a little drama? Also, Dan, Stugotz, and Chris sit down with Dolphins linebacker Jaelen Phillips at Fins camp to discuss his journey overcoming injuries, his relationship with his family, and giant lizards. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Shadow show. Shadow show. Shadow show. Shadowing it. Chris Cody, are you excited about the Suys? How do you feel about the Suys? It's always a giant undertaking. I thought you meant, am I excited

for the Jalen Phillips interview to air today because that went so well last week for me. But yes, I am excited for the Jalen Phillips interview to air today because that went so well last week for me. But yes, I am excited for the sues. The sues, as our team has grown, I get a little more help now, so it's not, I'm kind of just like, I get the final stuff and I do the cut down.

So it's been made a little easier for me because of our large team. Thanks to Yeti, thanks to Rage Against Twitter, thanks to Ethan, thanks to Mike Mallard. Okay, we don't need an acceptance speech before we got truly current. No, I'm just as if you're excited. need an acceptance speech before we got truly carded up. No, I'm just saying if you're excited.

We're acceptance speech. He won us over. Just on the front end, thinking I want to thank my helpers. What are you, Santa? I wish Santa should do that on Christmas morning. You'd be a great Santa. Santa does not thank his helpers enough, I'd say. Oh, come on.

You know, all the work that those elves do, and Santa gets all the credit. You ever heard Santa thank the elves, have ya? The elves are only famous because of Santa. The elves only have any notice in the public consciousness of any kind because Santa exists. Well, the Keebler elves exist outside of Santa. Yeah, they're not the gift givers.

Nobody cares about those elves. You hear that, Ethan? You don't matter. Here's the thing about the Keebler elves. You know they're always gonna deliver. Sometimes you get bad Christmas gifts. I dare you to find a bad Keebler cookie. Put it on the poll please Juju at LeBatal Show. Do the Keebler elves always deliver?

Yes or no. What are the categories we're doing today? Because we're going to be doing the sues all week. Stu Gottz said he had forgotten all about the sues. Big categories today. We're coming out strong, it's kind of like the Oscars. You start with big categories,? Big, big categories today. We're coming out strong. It's kind of like the Oscars. You start with big categories, you finish with big categories.

We are doing best dismissal and best limited fake today. I'm scared of the sues. I would say I had a bad year. Honestly, being in this chair, my head's been spinning this year as well. I was not, I didn't have high hopes for these sues. The sues have made me feel better about the product that we've put out the last year.

Really? Just listening to them, like wow. They have a way of doing that. We had some funny things. For me this year has just been, my head's just been spinning. What are you nervous about? Worst mistake, I mean.

No, just, well, I've. I've just in general, the quality. I've had a rough two years, just in general everywhere, and it is shown in my work. Previous years I've had plenty of musical contributions. This year a light year for me. So today's day is my day. This is the opportunity for limited fake Pierce Brosnan

to be recognized by the Academy. Yes, Mike is always strong in limited fake. I would say dismissal usually a Stugats category. Billy Gill brings it this year in dismissal. I don't wanna oversell it, but strong year for Billy in dismissal usually a Stugats category. Billy Gill brings it this year in dismissal. I don't wanna over sell it, but strong year for Billy in dismissal. You dismissed a lot of people this year. No, it's always good.

I don't know how I feel about this. Keep it up. Mike, in terms of putting the town on alert, did you do so this weekend? In college football, all the dogs covered, all of them. We kicked off a new weekly segment called put the tone on alert and we put FSE on upset alert and that one cash boys but all of them on alert all of them cashed all the underdogs cashed

you guys why because nobody knows shit Mm-hmm. This is the Don Leventor Show with the Stugats Podcast. Today's episode is sponsored by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours. I would say that Roy genuinely and generally struggles with public shows of joy. Princess Claire will bring joy out of him. Large amounts of alcohol will bring joy out of him. The Panthers hoisting the cup. It brought some joy.

It thawed some of the stoicism. I wouldn't call that joy i expected more you're right but but i imagine that after winning in key west a championship weekend of uh... weirdly fishing and barbecue after winning that the combination of things and being a champion in in what i matter was a very competitive thing people take their fishing very seriously in key west so i don't know how many people were competing in this thing but Roy you won the whole damn thing how much of an upset is that we be legitimate Hall of Famers on the barbecue side definitely guys like a toughy stone and mo K son like the biggest names the barbecue over the last 20 years what does that mean what

right barbecue Hall of Fame or Hall of Famers of this tournament? Barbecue Hall of Fame. Where's that? I don't know where the barbecue Hall of Fame is. It could be anywhere in this country. Next to the hot dog Hall of Fame that you're in? Somewhere in the south, I would imagine. I'm just, you know.

Yeah, but yeah, beating those guys. You beat Tuffy? Yeah. Wow. Like, that's humbling right there. But is it like, is Tuffy still bringing his A game or is it like Tuffy downside of Tuffy? Oh, no, no, all of fame career. Yes, he his team actually won an award Wow cheeseburger in Paradise Award

At this at this tournament. Yeah, so this is barbecue fishing and cheeseburgers. They didn't make cheeseburgers They just they named it cheeseburger paradise after Jimmy Buffett. But yeah, you are Can you be competing still in barbecue competitions if you're in the Hall of Fame? I feel like once you accept the Hall of Fame, you know, award, you should be removing yourself. Is there an actual Hall of Fame? Oh yeah.

Yeah, yeah. So where is that? And when, and Billy, it seems to me like you're undermining everybody here, because I don't think there's a Hall of Fame and you're undercutting Roy's Joy. It's in Kansas City. We can visit it next week, Billy.

Wow. Yeah, I mean. Go see Tuffy's bust or bronze ribs or whatever. Roy is not lying. Tuffy was inducted in 2018. Why would Roy lie? First ballot or? I'm just verifying.

I'm not saying he was lying. First ballot guy or? That's a good question. Right, Tuffy? It kind of feels like you're trying to diminish Roy's achievements. Yeah, that's what you guys usually do. By being sarcastic around it and doing bit like there's a monumental achievement. He just dipped his toe in the barbecue competition waters and he came out a champion over Tuffy.

I know I think what we're thinking is whether or not Tuffy is Hall of Fame worthy. No, I wouldn't. I mean, I think the most important thing is how much money they raise for pediatric cancer. No, the most important thing is winning. I wanna know on the pie chart though, how much meat Dave did and how much Roy did. Were you the sous chef? What was going on here? Well, the team was Dave Williamson, comedian, he has his own barbecue podcast,

meet Dave and Jodie Flanagan. He's looking light in that upper body. Yeah, man, he's been lifting. He's been lifting. He's always been thick. Yeah, but no, now he's got a definition. He's got like- Well, he's opening for Kreischer, that always helps too. Yeah, he no definition. He's got like he's opening for Kreischer that always helps too

Yeah, he's got a little bit of like a like it just like a meat bone definition about him Like those lats are starting to poke out a little bit tank tops look good on thick like De Niro Yeah, Jody flying again was also on the team. He's an actual pit master Me and Jessica were also on the team. So we did own Individual thing me Jody and Dave did the meats and yeah, I mean we're champions man And how many fishing champions were there because like you're dealing with the barbecue Hall of Famers and the fishing they take super Seriously there. Oh, yeah, absolutely like we caught a whole bunch of fish. I caught nine myself a whole bunch of snapper I caught a lemon shark the entire team caught two sharks

Topping and a permit fish. Those are big fish right there, so yeah. Wow. Did you get seasick? No, no. Jody did, he got seasick. That was unfortunate. Yeah, open water fishing is no joke,

especially out there in the Keys. Oh, and seasickness is the worst. Like, it is such a bad feeling. Well, it's not the worst. I mean, the cause that they were trying to you know raise money against is probably the worst. Actually the legitimate thing is they got drunk the night before. Oh boy. That's how it happens. That's how it happens. Was Meathead Goldwyn there? I did not see him. No. No. 16 lobsters we caught on Saturday as well. He really boxed you in there.

I mean. Well it's just an asshole move. It's just a total asshole move. I already did the dangerous pediatric cancer joke by saying winning the barbecue fishing competition was more important than raising money for it, and then he just boxed me in with assholeness. Like, just, like, it's just the smell of asshole that just cornered me.

Doing this for a good cause. Poor taste. Yeah, that's not something I a good cause. Poor taste. That's not something I'm here to support, Roy. I'm proud of him because I too am made joyful whenever Roy experiences mass levels of joy. I'd say that his character has softened quite a bit in recent years, but yes, any time that he shows

immense joy like he did over the last weekend, I think that's cause for celebration. And the fact that he held his own, a part of a team that went up against Hall of Famers, Roy, look at me in my eyes. Duffy Stone. Sincerely proud of you. And I wish I had some of that barbecue.

So how did the overall winner work as a combo of like the fishing and the barbecue? Yes, they're all the points together. That's how we went overall. Was Jessica a judge? No, she was a part of the cook team. That would have been unfair. Two champions.

Eight side job. Yeah. Oh, you brought the trophy. She was a part of the cook team? Yes, she was a part of the cook team. That would have been unfair. Two champions. Eight side job. You brought the trophy. She was a part of the cook team? Yes, she was a part of the cook team. So she wasn't fishing? No, she didn't fish. No, she was just a part of the cook team. She posted the picture that Halliburton posted though as if she did nothing.

Because Halliburton was like, won a gold medal with the group project, got an A, didn't do anything. I think she was... Well, no, she did everything that we asked her to do, so yeah, she was part of the team. Well, I mean, seems like you just sent her to the kitchen, which is just really poor optics. I mean, I don't know what Bane would say, but yeah, I guess so. Congratulations, Roy, hold up your trophy proudly there.

I hope the fish were bigger than that trophy. It's a terrible trophy, Roy. They didn't really hold back on the trophy did they? Jesus. I guess Tuffy got an appearance fee. That's what I'm... Well the money goes to cancer. No, there was a bigger trophy actually. For losers?

We showed a picture of it. No, but that's like a traveling trophy. We're gonna give him a trophy instead. There was a bigger one, there was one with a fish head on it that I saw. Exactly. There was one with a fish head on it and three lobsters on top of it. What's that? That's the cheeseburger award? Yeah that's no that's the overall award. So it's like the same thing. You just said you won the overall award didn't you? Huh? Say again? Didn't you win the overall award? Yeah but he doesn't get to keep the trophy like he

gets the plaque. Barbecue division Billy it's It's a combination, barbecue, fishing, all of it. Wait, no, so your team gets that award and then you each get individual little plaques. Yes, our names go on there, yeah. Wow. The event runners keep the trophy. Okay. Like a cup. Congratulations, Roy.

We are genuinely happy for you because you did look like you were having just the time of your life this weekend. Oh, absolutely. I saw something this weekend that I don't know if the rest of you saw it and we'll get to the events of this weekend because there's a lot to talk about but we did want to celebrate Roy's joy with him and it's a fun trip for him and Jessica to have made Super Sunshine

in Paradise like it looked like a lovely weekend. It was raining. Thank you for sharing. Guy Fieri's in the barbecue Hall of Fame Do that as well deserving first ballot guy has to be right Barbecue so is Henry Ford guy. Fiat barbecue. I think guy Fieri maybe is a cook I don't think of him as a barbecue Hall of Fame well Henry Ford invented cars or whatever So I don't know why he's in there is a part of a helping make charcoal. I believe Guy Fieri? No, no, Henry Ford.

The thing that- He invented charcoal? He and the guy from the Kingsford brand, they kinda helped. We've done this so many times, like ridiculous how easy it was to invent things back in the day. Nobody knew anything. The thing that I saw this weekend

that made me laugh the most though Involved Chris Cody, and I don't know if the group knows what it is that I was laughing about Christ man after last week. We're just gonna start right here. Okay. Well, we've got started already as well as with the Suez today We've got we've got some dolphin interviews from camp we're going to be doing that all week we're going to finally air all week all of the interviews where you can watch how uncomfortable Chris looks being right in the face of a bunch of giant people and uncomfortably close to them but what I saw happen this weekend that made me laugh is we went, I'm not going to say viral, but we got aggregated last week on a couple of things. I don't even remember what it is that they were, but the thing that was

delighting me is that other entities on YouTube turned the aggregate stuff into their own content. So it might be me and Amin talking about X but on the screen with no explanation Larges can be is Chris Cody playing with his drawstrings and Everything that's being talked about there's no explanation there They're referencing the commentary that's in the lower right hand corner of me and somebody talking about something But giant on the screen is Chris Cody talking about something, but giant on the screen is Chris Cody, large as can be, large and in charge while playing with his drawstrings, and there's no explanation for why it is he's ten times larger than the people talking about the content that was being devoured.

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It was awesome. A doozy. Boom. Mm-hmm. Stugatz. Such a lane for you. Just everything in college football is awesome. Any single thing that happens, she gets deliriously happy about.

Don't you miss viewing sports through that prism though? Like I'm envious of Lucy. Like I wish that I could still be happy. This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats. The college football that greeted us this weekend, Stugats. The funny micro part of it is it is legitimately funny what happens on first drive sometimes when you have an entire off season to prepare for an opponent. Like both teams with their scripted plays went right up and down the field on each other and then the rest of the game FSU couldn't run the football at all. After that

first drive I was convinced that Florida State was the best team in the country. Yes that happened this weekend with a lot of people and I thought that the coolest part of this weekend Stu gots because so much of sports is filled with yelling and blame and arguing and sometimes you know the great moments in sports transport us and we enjoy them together but it's really rare for sports to just arrive and everyone's hugely grateful as if they've been dying missing something you do not get what happened with the return of football even the collegiate form even though there was one game of importance this weekend and everything else was just betting action there I think there are 31 games on Thursday

night 31 division one games on Thursday night night thirty one division one games on thursday night but the return of football came with so much public gratitude that it caught me off guard a little bit even though i know people love football but i think of it as pro football what's happened is the expansion of the weekend now you guys like the escape of all of it it's no longer just sunday's it you were happy that football was back in any form, that it started at noon, that game day was back, that McAfee was getting drunk in Ireland and

making it look like a huge fun party, as it should feel like a huge party. And it just seems rare in this day and age to see just simple gratitude the way, you know, the way the poets talk about baseball when they're Kirchens age, but this being like all over the place, people just really excited and positive on social media for the return of something. In this country, it might be antiquated thought because it's commonly referred to as the four major sports.

They say pro football, pro basketball, pro baseball, pro hockey. I don't think that's exactly accurate. And I'll tell you why. I think college football is quite easily the second biggest sport in this country next to pro football. And you don't necessarily get to fully experience that

because while you're still basking in the glory of your Saturday, here comes Sunday to knock it out of the headlines. But if it were on a different part of the calendar, we'd be a country that would be kind of divided. What's bigger? What's better? And the numbers, I think, kind of back this up. It's the second biggest sport in the United States. This weekend coming up is such a great weekend, though, because you don't have the NFL. They're not back until the following week. So you have games starting on Thursday and ending on Monday.

Like, it's a great weekend for college football. I will say this. We need to start college football in the United States. I don't like this. Like Dublin has, Dan, I'm serious about this, okay? Start your season in the United States and your season in the United States. I don't want to hear about it. Dublin does not deserve to get college football's opener. Okay, they don't. And baseball, same thing. I don't want the season to start in China and in the United States.

I want it to start here and here. Japan, wherever they're playing games. I don't want it. There are sports. Why are we giving the start of our seasons away to different countries? Why? Explain it to me.

You're yearning and longing for FSU Georgia Tech. You know what? I'm yearning for a college game day that takes place in a place where they're comfortable. That's all. Like to me, that starts the college football season and those guys were out in unfamiliar territory. That was a home game for the punter, right?

McAfee didn't look comfortable to you. No, he did there. He did on his show. He looked, he was having a great time, McAfee. He was getting hammered. Like that looked fun. But college game day did not to me. It didn't have energy

I mean those guys are tired. I don't blame them. I agree with you college game day left something to be desired and I think You can have your theories. It's not like there weren't FSU fans They're given Kirk Herbstreet the business, but you could say hey you would get the best atmosphere right in front of the stadium That's when you maximize the people and maybe maybe, just maybe, this is a theory that they decided, knowing Kirk's relationship with the FSU fan base, let's kind of pull that back a little bit, let's go for a great sweeping visa as opposed to the energy.

You don't think this is the power of Saban? Just like his energy? It's gonna be toned down now. We're gonna be serious. I don't know, cause he's not like a guy. He sucked the energy out of it. He's like the opposite of Pat. I'm interested to hear what he says.

But he's the opposite of Pat McAfee in terms of just looking energetic. He got high marks for what he was doing. I saw some clips, I liked. I enjoyed his perspective. I did take issue with one segment where they let Nick Savin speak for this upcoming NCAA ruling.

I say that in air quotes because you have a collectively bargain thing that's not collectively bargained. And he's just carrying water for the NCAA because he was brought in by Ted Cruz to speak on the merits of you know kind of bringing this back to the way that it was and there wasn't a single dissenting voice on the on the dais. Keep in mind one of the I don't know how that got that got aggregated for me because I tweeted my thoughts and I guess because

Ted Cruz was include included in my tweet, people thought it was political. No, I'm just stating the fact. If you don't know that Nick Saban spoke to Congress as an invited guest about Ted Cruz, I'm not taking a political stance. I'm just showing you whose side he is very clearly on. And for this one major show that aspires to objectivity, for them to not have a dissenting voice and everyone kinda gnawed along with what the NCAA is trying to do,

kinda rubbed me the wrong way. Give Saban a couple weeks. I guarantee you before the season's over, his shirt is off. That's what we need. Cause he was giving off the vibes. You know what his office used to look like at Alabama? That's the vibes that he gives off.

Have you seen what the new coach's office looks like? It's like completely transformed. It's just like, that's what I was feeling. I liked his content, but there's just something about Saban that just gives off like brown wood. Yeah, but they put him right next to McAfee, who doesn't give that off. Oh, but he gives it off after 30 Guinnesses. Come on, 30 Guinnesses. Even someone with his stamina is going to have a hard time after 30 Guinness's getting up on the following day. I can see Saban be, he's torn. You can see it, like he's processing.

Because he, and he said it himself, I have ripped analysts for preseason predictions for all that stuff, and now I'm being asked to do it, and I don't want to do it. Eventually, three weeks from now, he's gonna have to do it. I saw this funny clip of just Pat McAfee at one point inexplicably barking, and you just see Saban just kinda like jarred by it, and like looks to his left like, whoa, this guy's barking. Eight, nine weeks, he's gonna be barking

right along with us. Saban is still being calculated, saying that he's providing Alabama with reverse rat poison. Miss Terry was also there, so Nick had to be on his best behavior. Like, you know how that goes. I've got a number of things that I wanna follow up on. First of all, Guinnesses have a higher alcohol content.

Do they not? Are they not like LaBot's where Guinness has just, it's a heavier beer? I can tell you what, they have more calories and worse taste. But it's a darker, it's not, is it not a larger alcohol content? I'm saying it's only 4.2,

which is a little above light beers, like the Fantastic Miller Lite. The thing that Roy said earlier, saying that the Barbecue Hall of Famers that he beat, it was humbling to beat them. Can someone explain to me how it is that humbling is used there? Because I see it all the time in speeches used as humbling. And I think it's the time in speeches used as humbling and I think it's the opposite

of humbling. I think you become even more grandiose when you feel like you've knocked off Hall of Famers to become a champion. The Hall of Famers should be humbled. Yeah, I don't really understand and have never understood to be humbled by something that is an act that would bring you achievement and ego. Well, I've been watching this show, Barbecue Pitmasters, for a very long time. And that show was like 20 years old, man. And this is my second barbecue competition.

So, like, the defeat these guys, like... That's prodigious. You're just your second competition, and you're beating the likes of Tuffy. I think it's keeping perspective, Dan. What they're trying to convey, when someone wins something and they say they're humble, they're just saying, I have perspective about this. Like, I'm not gonna get above my britches here. Did I say that right? Am I just gonna stay humble?

Why would you be above your britches? I don't know. You get too big for them, but I don't think you ever get them. You can't be above them, though. I knew I had something cooking in there. You knew there were britches. Something in the oven there that I, it ended up being a little runny.

Bake in the britches. A few more minutes it needed in the oven. Was Honey Monk there, Roy? No, Honey Monk was not there, no. When you mention though, Nick Saban and the rules, the fact that he is without rebuttal going out there and just giving you the 78 year old viewpoint of the former dictator coach.

When the Miami of Ohio coach just says flatly, Alabama stole our kicker, the Lugrosso award winner just says it flatly. He says, we didn't lose our kicker no i know where he is we look we we had him stolen by alabama what rules are we follow like what i i i'm i'm dead serious about this i thought about this with the accused the honest again into it with the media and i was actually thinking if the media really wanted to i wonder what the damage would be if the media got together in color on so we're not

covering you anymore like this isn't the way media got together in color on so we're not covering you anymore like this isn't the way that we're going to do this we're going to boycott the coverage of you i don't know if the media actually has any ground to stand on with him i've heard rob parker and some other suggest this as uh... you know in defense of the media but i don't think diana at this point needs the local media in any way i think think he's playing a bigger game there. But when I see his assistant coach going to Saudi Arabia

for NIL money, what rules are we following exactly? Well, I think it tells you what a bad investment NIL might be for some, for the Saudis to be like, I don't really see the return in this. What are we doing? No, no, this is- We found the thing that they're like, you know what? This is the one thing that they're like,

you know, this is reckless spending for sports. I don't think we're gonna do this. What do we get from this? We get to say we're good? We don't have any ties to this. This is ridiculous. I don't need the network. I'm a sheik.

Do you think Alabama really had to steal the Miami of Ohio's kicker? Like you're making it seem like the Miami of Ohio kicker went against his will. They're a kicker away. You're at Miami of Ohio. Historically, kicker has always been kind of like the Achilles Ohio kicker went against his will. They're a kicker away. You're at Miami of Ohio. Historically, kickers always been kind of like the Achilles heel.

Right. I mean. I am not making the accusation. The Miami of Ohio coach is making the accusation. Straight up on video, Sugats. He said they just straight up stole my kick. No, I understand that. But they didn't steal anything.

He was playing for Miami of Ohio when Nick Saban came calling and that's that. No, ex-Ganz though, the thing I'm asking though is about rules. Like what rules are we following? They are following rules. The NCAA likes to pretend like there aren't rules. Everybody still has to submit to the NCAA's rules. They're just not, they don't like the rules. They're allowing them to be and what they're seeking from Congress is to hey just put us totally in charge, don't have any checks and balances. We know what the rules should be even though in the courts we're 0 for 24 challenging them. Is the NCAA basically like a substitute teacher right now?

They're like the authority but also like if you don't respect them, because like they don't even control the college football playoff anymore. So like what are they gonna do? They haven't, that's a sneaky little thing. Like they haven't and people really should dig into how much influence ESPN has over this stuff because it started bubbling up to the surface with FSU

and ESPN gets to play a plausible deniability game because it's not the ESPN CFP. Yes it is. Yeah, yeah, it absolutely is. But I do think that you should have dissenting voices and have a nuanced conversation. Maybe that wasn't the place for it because Nick Saban did bring up points. There are points from this proposal that I think are really good. But also I'm not for collective bargaining agreements that aren't collectively bargained. Who's the rep for the students? Do they have a union? This thing is just moving along and it's going to get to the point where they just get rubber stamped by Congress and now you've given total

control of NIL to an entity that at every turn has tried to undo NIL. Billy, I don't think the substitute teacher has the power to take a game from Kirk Farrens. I think that there's still some power there. I just don't know. I don't feel like anyone listening to this knows what any of the rules are. Compliance officers, schools still have to follow them, Dan. The NCAA still is in charge.

They're just not getting what they want out of it because they're losing in court. So they want to stop being able to lose in court by just being granted safe harbor status. That's what they're looking for. Now there's great ideas in their plan to fund non-revenue sports, and any plan that goes forward needs that.

But you also need to kind of collectively bargain it with the revenue generators, the football players, the basketball players, and that's not happening. I feel like if Iowa really wanted to fight for Kirk Ferentz they could, right? But like this is also like, what will we look like without him coaching? The same. They'll just punt a lot. We don't know.

We don't know. We don't know. You got Iowa being an air raid. Come on. Come on. All of a sudden it's going to break out. It's going to be six wide receivers running in all directions. Don Lebatard.

This is largely perturbed, but we need to establish and leave some reasonable doubt. Yes, exactly. Everyone with a choice in themselves, please stop. Is it still going to top everyone with a play story where you please more than you do? Stugats.

I always like leaving Dan on high. I hate the chicken. Please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please we're going to go out to dolphin camp again, as we are every day this week in the local hour to give Miamians some of the voices and players that they care about headed into football season. What do you know about the Jalen Phillips interview that we're about to play here at the end of this segment? I know that he was wearing short shorts in it. I know that at some point him and I discussed that I know that we talked a lot about his injury and we talked about his family support system all his rocks and It was really good. He's another one that there wasn't one that I walked out of being like this was bad He's he was good. Okay, so we will get to that in a second.

One of the things that I'm always amazed by, Stugatz, as athletes continue to get bigger, stronger, and faster, is a person like this, when you sit next to them, you're just sort of floored by the size and the scope of the athleticism. I know we like to criticize athletics because we played in criticize athletics because we played in high school or we have opinions about that feel like sometimes

professional sports we cover it as if it's Little League but the amount of time and effort and science being put into making these people giant machines stugots. When I talk to baseball people for example my age of guys playing cards in the clubhouse that's gone guys are working on their ad doctors they're getting i'd tests like it's all science and the intensity of it is not selected these guys are not going out drinking every night when they got a hundred sixty two game season in baseball like what's happening now in the clubhouses is just a meticulous obsessive science of crazy and in football, like what's happening now in the clubhouses is just a meticulous, obsessive science of crazy.

And in football, where the bodies break, these people are so large as to not be believed that the athleticism can be contained in those bodies. So I wanna show you a clip here of something, and I know Shady McCoy, LaShawn McCoy, as obvious by watching him on television, has not taken care of himself since retiring. he's not he's he's not in the greatest of all he's not a that's not what he's what watch this clip and watch him lose to

aaron donald in a race of former nfl running back and watch the size and speed of aaron donald and how tired he's not cuz he just finished with football and how tired le shon mccoy is because he's a couple of years removed from football and is no longer a running back like it's crazy to think of Aaron Donald someone that size being like beating Lashon McCoy in a foot race yeah but have that race like a year after Lashon McCoy retires and see what happens I mean he dust him it's a defensive tackle it's just I have a harder time just reconciling with Aaron Donald not playing pro football this season Yeah, he's still so good that I I can't believe that he won't be

Dressing up at the end of the year and realize that he misses it some he's he's so good And he could be good for like five more years like top guy in the league good I heard how we long talking about Bo Jackson and how Bo Jackson just sort of parachuted out of the sky because he was playing baseball and then just started carrying a football in a football game. If Aaron Donald wants to join a contender because he's bored toward the end of the season like I'm thinking a whole lot of people are going to want Aaron Donald on their team and he wouldn't have to do training camp or any of the other stuff and I imagine that he's got, I don't know if his physical freakness is something that he would want to work out the way he would have to over the next eight weeks, but why couldn't Aaron Donald come back

and have a feeding frenzy over whether or not to sign him? I don't know how much time was left on his contract. The Rams could still very well have his rights And if he were to come back He'd have to either come to some sort of agreement if it wasn't with the Rams or he could just easily microwave that deal up We've seen it with pass rushers, even though he's a unique pass rusher because he's a defensive tackle He's a nose tackle doing unprecedented things at that position. Not really since Warren sap, but that's one of those positions that we've seen dating back as,

as young as I could remember Charles Haley getting the call like in the winter time, Hey, we need a pass rusher. You available? Like those guys are just so unique. Julius peppers was another way around it. Like, uh, we see clownies kind of been in this cycle recently like hey you're a mercenary pass rusher we'll get you you don't have to do any of the camp stuff don't worry we you have a skill that no one else has really we'll get to the Jalen Phillips interview in a second Stu guys but let me just play a clip for

the audience I believe if Aaron Donald does come back he would have to play for the Rams so it's gonna be interesting to see if they're contending late in the season if he wants to make a little run. If he's bored and wants to make it back it would be fun to watch but the size of Jalen Phillips the speed of Jalen Phillips is obviously the how many Jalen's do the Dolphins have is it four five hmm they've got an assortment of Jalen's. No one who has thighs like this though, I mean. Here is Jaylin Phillips just talking about when he was injured, because it's so hard,

it's when your body betrays you and your body is the thing that supports the entire economy around you. It can be heartbreaking, but I was surprised to see and hear how positive he was immediately after what has been a wreck of an injury for a lot of guys. What would you describe as the worst of it where you got doubt and heartbreak because you've climbed all the way back from something, never mind that it's a death sentence, just you rely

on your body for your living. So when it betrays you, you're never expecting it. You guys all feel bulletproof, even though what you're doing is dangerous. Yeah, no, that's very true. I mean, I think the most devastating part was when it initially happened, but pretty quickly after that, I just knew that if I didn't have the right mindset, then it could swallow me up, and I could really get into the negative head space.

And so, literally like 20 minutes after it happened, when I got into the shower by myself, I'm just sitting there, and I just had a moment I remember distinctly where I literally just, I thank God, I said thank you for this opportunity because it's gonna make me stronger at the end of the day. And so I know I'll get over it, I know it'll take some time, it'll be frustrating,

but ultimately I do feel like it's all a part of the plan and what's a good story without a little drama? 20 minutes afterward? 20 minutes afterward instead of feeling sorry for yourself, you are conscious about adjusting your mindset. Yeah, I had to, because at the end of the day, I'm the only person who can control my mindset, right? You know, everybody can be around me trying to lift me up

and try to be positive for me, but at the end of the day, if I'm not positive with myself and I don't have, you know, a positive mindset, then I'm not gonna be able to heal properly. I'm not gonna be in that right head space. So yeah, I pretty much instantly, and you know, thankfully I dealt with some injury and adversity before. So, um, this time around I felt ready for it.

He just kind of touched on the injury and adversity before that guy sitting there, a specimen coming off an Achilles injury. He just kind of glossed over. He almost medically retired at UCLA because his injuries were so bad. When that injury happened against the Jets, I was watching thinking like there's a genuine shot. This is the last time we ever see Jalen Phillips on a field because of all the other injuries that he's had to overcome.

And I don't know, I'm not a dolphin fan. Is he not even starting the season on the pup list? Like he's ready to go? He thinks he's gonna be ready for game one. That's insane. It is nuts. Chris, how did you feel about how you looked there? You weren't too close to him?

Calm, cool, collected. It was awkward, but not as awkward as some of what it is we had fun with last week. It was still awkward. That was the first one we did, I believe, too. But yeah, I think Tua just made me nervous. I think the rest of them you're gonna see smooth sailing. I think with each passing one,

you got a little bit closer, a little bit closer until we got to Tua, and then you were sitting on him. Where did Tua rank? Where was he on the timeline of the interviews for that day? Last. Oh. So you were cool and then you got to Tua and then you got nervous?

The rare, you know, it's Tua though. It's a quarterback, it's QB1. Look at that smile. I'd cower. Billy, you said earlier that you and Stugats are gonna be in Kansas City next week. What is God Bless Football gonna be doing in Kansas City next week?

Oh, we're gonna be there. I don't know if you heard, Dan. NFL season kicks off next week. Chiefs, Ravens. We're gonna be there. We're gonna be covering part of Draft Kings coverage that day. We're gonna be there.

Come check us out. I believe, I don't know if I should say that I believe we're gonna be in the parking lot live covering, you know, all things football that day We're gonna be there. We're gonna record our episode go join Golic. We're gonna be there also and then there's gonna be a three-hour I don't know if I should say any of this. There's gonna be a three-hour Pre-game show that's gonna be going on it's gonna feature a lot of people out there. We're gonna be part of that Why shouldn't you be saying this? Shouldn't we be pro? I don't know what's out and what's not out.

Exactly right, yeah. Well, but you're the one who volunteers. Lips are sealed sometimes. You were gonna be in Kansas City. No. I said that? You said it in the first segment today. No, I said the Barbecue Hall of Fame's in Kansas City.

No, you said you were gonna be in Kansas City. I said it. No, it's too sad we could check it out. Yeah. When you say there's a bunch of people for this pregame show, can you give us any teasers? No, the who's who of the what's what. Well said.

All right, good promotion as always. God bless football, a rollicking joyride. You should check it out when it gets to Kansas City. Details pending. We're really proud of us for talking about the Florida State Georgia Tech game and not mentioning once that Florida State lost that game, really. We didn't harp on it at all. Number 10 ranked FSU that spent the entire off season.

What does it matter anymore? You can lose whatever you want, it doesn't make a difference. Spent the entire off season complaining about what was owed to them and they come out and they lose to Brenkies, Ramblin' Rack. But Billy is so right. That's one of the things that has changed.

You can no longer say, and I said it anyway, if you're gonna lose, lose early. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Lose whatever the hell you watch Just don't lose more than twice Must be looking at themselves like man We got to get our hands on that team if you're Alabama you can lose four times and still get in it doesn't make a difference

Yeah, I that's true. I continued my ACC scout to Reno, Nevada To see how SMU would treat their first game as a member of the ACC and that one was a little touch and go not great Put it on the pole, please. Juju was McAfee a ramblin wreck That was a lot of fun that football game and I will tell you again I am truly amazed at what happens when you have an offseason of preparation for your first drive you have an off season of preparation for your first drive because Florida State ran the ball in a way that I'm like oh and what everyone was saying yeah their offensive line is too big it's gonna be too big and that's how that's what the analysis was of everyone but Seamus. Seamus killed it Seamus killed it

as like I think Saban co-signed on the notion that FSU had the best defensive line unit in the nation. And they run the ball so easily on the first drive. I didn't look at the final numbers, but I'm guessing if you take the first drive out in terms of rushing attempts, that Florida State probably had fewer than two yards to carry in that game. A couple glaring issues. A couple glaring issues. I mean, their quarterback doesn't seem to want to throw the ball downfield and when he does he does so inaccurately It was so dinkin dunk, but let's get now without further ado Stu gots to this dolphin camp interview with Jalen Phillips

Do you judge me because I'm complaining about sweating when I'm walking from my car to I walked 50 yards No, just we're 50 yards of my life. We're with Jalen Phillips we've started moments ago. Sorry, Dan. Well, I just didn't, I didn't know that he had, that one of the tribulations is sweaty socks and feet. I would have thought of all the thousands of things out there that are unpleasant to practice in, I wouldn't have thought that that would have made the list.

That's probably the number one tribulation, to be honest. That's the worst part about it. Especially when it starts raining out here and then your whole socks and shoes are wet and then it dries up and then you just gotta run and you're squishing every step and it's brutal. It's nice to see you back healthy and happy. Last time that we had spoken to you, moments later you had the injury and then we're watching you crying on hard knocks and we all felt for you because of how awful that seemed So you're feeling good now. You're expected to be out there as soon as they start which is ahead of schedule. Is it Nas?

Yeah, I mean when I started they basically told me it's anywhere between 9 and 12 months and then some people, you know I think Cam Akers had like a five month recovery, right? So, you know as years have gone by like the technology and everything has gotten a lot better And so the timelines have shortened over time. I mean, you know, I was talking to Dan and stuff back in his day It's almost like a death sentence. And so at this point that kind of told me anywhere between 9 to 12 And so for me, I'm pretty I'm pretty happy with where I'm at. These are casual talking to Dan reference Did you just drop a casual talking to Dan reference? Yeah, Uncle Dan. Uncle Dan. Uncle Dan. Uncle Dan.

What would you describe as the worst of it where you got doubt and heartbreak because you've climbed all the way back from something, never mind that it's a death sentence, just you rely on your body for your living. So when it betrays you, you're never expecting it. You guys all feel bulletproof even though what you're doing is dangerous. Yeah, no, that's very true. I mean, I think the most devastating part was when it initially happened, but pretty quickly after that I just knew that If I didn't have the right mindset then it could swallow me up and I could like really get into the negative headspace

And so literally like 20 minutes after I happened when I got into the the shower by myself and just sitting there And I just had a moment. I remember distinctly where I literally just I thank God I said thank you for this opportunity because it's gonna make me stronger at the end of the day and so I know I'll get over it, I know it'll take some time, it'll be frustrating but ultimately I do feel like it's all a part of the plan and what's a good story without a little drama?

20 minutes afterward, 20 minutes afterward instead of feeling sorry for yourself, you are conscious about adjusting your mindset. Yeah, I had to, because at the end of the day, I'm the only person who can control my mindset, right? You know, everybody can be around me trying to lift me up and try to be positive for me. But at the end of the day, if I'm not positive with myself

and I don't have, you know, a positive mindset, then I'm not going to be able to heal properly. I'm not going to be in that right head space. So yeah, I pretty much instantly, and you know, thankfully, I dealt with some injury and adversity before. So this time around, I felt ready for it. Where is it along the path that your strength has been tested so that you actually know

how mentally strong you are beyond injuries? Or is it just the teaching of the injuries? I mean, I think my whole transition going from UCLA to the U and then, you know, coming to the league, obviously, like, it was a big maturation phase for me just moving all the way across from my family and kind of just having to bootstrap up and change my life around. You know, I came into the U at 210 pounds and, you know, kind of a shell of myself when

it came to my self-confidence and my self-belief, and so slowly just gaining that back, feeling like myself again, and just going through that. I think that was like the first time in my life that I truly went through, you know, a time of like big trials and errors or trials and tribulations. And so ever since then, you know, it's continuous, right? I'm still learning and I'm still learning how to deal

with things when they come along, but I definitely feel better suited for adversity when it comes around nowadays than I was when I was 17, 18 years old. So injuries, I played a part in that, but it's also just life. I mean, you guys know going through things, things happen. So it's really about how you attack it afterwards

and how you respond. In those moments, do you lean on people? Like who's there for you? Who are you going through this with? Who are you learning from? Yeah, my family is my number one rock, my number one support system. My mom and my dad, they're great

because my mom is really emotional and her and I are super close. We talk for hours almost every day. And then my dad is a lawyer, so he's very analytical, very logically thinking. And so he kind of gives me insight and perspective. And then my mom really is there for the emotional support piece.

My sister, my grandfather, like I have a really good tribe around me. And then obviously within the facility, within the building I have, especially when it comes to injuries, like an amazing training staff, amazing strength staff, the coaches, they all have respect for me

and they all have been pushing me along and supporting me and then my teammates as well. So really anywhere I look I have support. Are those one collective rock or are those like separate rocks next to each other? Sounds like mom's the rock. Yeah, mom's the rock. Mom's definitely a big rock and then my dad

is that supporting rock. So there are multiple rocks. It's not just like total smaller rocks. Mom, if you're talking to one with several hours a day, the others are ancillary rocks. Pebbles. I wouldn't even call them pebbles. Don't call us dad. See, I know.

I gotta know a little bit more credit than pebbles. Like, the teammates are more like pebbles. Mom's a rock. I said it first. He didn't hear me first. I said it first. Mom's a rock. I'm so happy.

We'll say it's like a Jenga. We'll say it's like a Jenga structure. A Jenga. There we go. Now I see. Because each one is important, right? And so it's like, yeah, my mom is probably the foundation. Or maybeenga, there we go. Now I see Jenga. Each one is important, right? And so it's like, yeah, my mom is probably the foundation,

or maybe she's at the top, because then in theory, if the pebbles and stuff underneath are out, then the whole thing falls over. So point being, I got a lot of rocks. I got a lot of rocks. In my family, and they do a great job for me. You said hours a day, that has to be an exaggeration. You're not talking to your mother hours

It may be a little bit of an exaggeration, but we definitely there are days We talk for hours for sure But I'd say you know we definitely try to talk every single day whether it's talk or or text And when we get on the phone, it's at least an hour every time so hours might have been an exaggeration But you know so explain to me where they are along your path on support, like, because the best part of these rides, right, you've told us before about how meaningful

all of this is to you, doing it in Miami, being a part of the things that have happened to you in Miami, the best part of some of what it is you do is being able to share it with others who get the view. I imagine your parents didn't quite have the mindset 20 minutes after your injury that you did because they were heartbroken for you because they know how much you care about this.

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, they were all there too. My mom, dad, and sister, they came down in the tunnel afterwards and I think they were just more concerned about me. Like obviously they were disappointed. They don't get to see me anymore and they love watching me

and they support everything that I do. But I think my mom especially was more so worried about how I was feeling and I think me coming out of the locker room with a smile on my face telling them this is gonna be okay, I think that really eased their mind. That's super unusual in your position. You know that, right?

Like most guys break down, the body is the economy for a lot of different things. People don't rebound as quickly as you do mentally. That's not normal. You know this, right? I mean, um, I guess I don't want to like, I'm not to my own horn because frankly, you know, I've, I've had my ups and downs. I'm not going to act like I've been perfect through this whole, um, this whole time or anything, but I do think that my, my prior experiences and

Obviously the support system I have and you know what they've taught me since I was young I think it's really kind of molded me and and Adjusted my dad. Like I said, he's like the analytical one So he's really helped me with mindset wise just like not worrying about things that are out of my control and like, you know With the sake Lee's it happened, right? So I can't change it, I can't do anything about it. So at that point, you know, it's my decision, whether I cower or not cower,

but whether I just like wallow in self misery or if I like bootstrap up and really just attack it with a positive mindset. So that's what I chose to do. When you were young, did you dream of being a musician or an athlete? Like, what were you dreaming as a career? First I wanted to be a lawyer, like my dad,

I wanted to go to Stanford and get like an academic degree. I really didn't think about sports. I got played sports, I played travel ball, baseball, football, a little bit of basketball here and there, but I didn't really start thinking about football as a career until I started getting offers in high school. And that's when I was like, okay, maybe I can actually do something with this.

And then the music really came back into my life when I retired from UCLA and really thought I was done with football. So then I had to figure out what I was gonna do with my life and figure out what my identity was outside of football. So that's when it kind of, you know, became real for me in the music sense. And then, yeah, with football, kind of, like I said,

once I started getting offers, started having aspirations, OK, maybe, you know, go to a big, big college and go to the NFL. And then especially after my junior or senior year, ranked number one in the nation, coming to UCLA, I kind of just assumed that, you know, I'm going to continue on this linear path and go first round, do all that stuff. And so it was a shock. It was definitely kind of a big eye opener when things didn't go that way. But I think it was a blessing. It was definitely kind of a big eye-opener when things didn't go that way.

But I think it was a blessing at the end of the day because it just made me so much more rooted in myself as a person outside of football and outside of what I do. Chris and I are making faces over here because of the choices. I mean, certain kind of athlete just like, oh, I just got this D1 scholarship. Oh, wait, I guess I'll consider football now. Well, not only that, professional athlete.

And if that doesn't work out, lawyer. Yeah. It's just real slacker. No, my family is high achieving. I guess I'll consider well not only that professional athlete if that doesn't work out lawyer. Yeah My family is high-achieving my sister just graduated from Harvard law She's gonna be working in a big firm in New York smart rocks. Yeah smart rocks for sure. So so yeah I just knew whatever I was gonna do that I was gonna you know to be be the best at it and always achieve to be you know more than average and try to do something great with my life Put us in the bathroom when you found the iguana in your toilet So my girlfriend at the time had called me and it was like right after practice and she was, I think she texted me,

she was like, there's a lizard in the bathroom. Like I have to call, I have to call like an exterminator, this and that. And I'm like, it can't be that bad, right? You know, she didn't send a picture or whatever. So I get home and she was like, it's in the bathroom and she had put like a towel underneath the door. And I'm like, still, it can't be that bad.

I took a peek, I said,. I'm already I'm kind of squeamish when it comes to like reptiles and bugs and stuff like that and so I saw him poking his little head up not little he was kind of big he's he's like this size like he wasn't like you know biggest of one in the world but he was not small and so yeah he was he was chilling in that bathroom, in the toilet, making it his home. I'm like, shit, you can have it, honestly. I'm cool off this, but called the exterminator,

he came through, he handled the business. But what's the backstory? She gets to the toilet and is about to use it, and that's the worst nightmare scenario. Oh my God, snake would be worse. Yeah, snake would be way worse for sure. No, I don't think she got caught using it. I think she just opened it.

Or maybe my cat was freaking out or something like that. Sensed it, right? I'm gonna hope it was my cat, you know, because what is he worth other than that? If he's not sniffing out the danger for me. Squeamish around bugs? What are the bugs that were most likely to walk into your house? You've seen one and now this giant.

It gets like, ah! Yes, right up there standing on a chair. She's scared, baby. Standing on a chair. She's scared. I was always an arachnophobe growing up, so I hated spiders. Okay, that's what that is.

And then, you know, after that, like, yeah, I just hate bugs in general. And Florida, you know, has a surplus of bugs and animals of all sorts. So I love animals. I love seeing all the animals outside, but not in my sanctuary. From a distance, yes. Exactly.

I like to observe them, maybe not touch them, or witness them up front. But spiders, you're legitimately scared of spiders. I think I've gotten over that a little bit now. But I used to definitely be screaming, have my mom or sister come get it for me, like, yeah, Swedish. How about the flying cockroaches we have down here? Oh, yeah. You enjoy those?

I didn't know about that, but thanks for unlocking it. You didn't know about it? Thanks for unlocking it this year. No, that's OK. I wasn't worried about them now, but I am now. So yeah, thanks, Dan. Thank you for being on with us. We appreciate the time with you.

And we are really happy. It's been a pleasure to watch your work at both Miamis and we're very happy that you're past rushing again. You know, he's interested in being an audio engineer, Dan, and we have an internship available. I mean, do you? What do you think? Yes. I'll get you guys right.

That's how Ryan Clark soundboarded all that. Ryan Clark, while he was playing for the Steelers, now that was ESPN. It's not Metal Art Media, but if you wanna be an audio engineer, we're there for you. Any of you? This summer I'll hit you guys up, we'll do a little internship or something. A little summer internship, I like that.

It's not high achieving standard stuff. You're gonna be a failure in your family. No, not a failure. I lost it to my daughter, she's not getting that internship now. My dad loves your show, so it wouldn't be a failure. By the way, how did I do on the short shorts, by the way? What's your preference on the seam?

These are from Southern California. What's your preference on the inch seam? What's your preference? Oh, it's gotta be seven or less. Yeah, so I'm going with like seven to five. I knew you'd come correct, so I was like, yeah. I don't wanna be sweet. These are like three to five inch right here.

He likes showing off the thighs. Yeah, I like to show off the thighs. It's a lot of thighs. It's a lot of jute. A single family could live in those thighs right there. I mean, geez. A family of German tourists can live in that thigh. Thank you, sir.

You got me blushing over here. Sick.