The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: An Hour About a Team That's About To Be 5-6

Episode Date: November 12, 2024

Today's cast: Dan, Stugotz, Greg Cote, Chris, Billy, Izzy, Jessica, and Lucy. Today's shadow show that's not the shadow show and is for the YouTube audience but also for the audio audience has started early, and it's left Dan with Chris and his dad, Jack Flackman. This Local Hour spends its full allotment of time analyzing the Dolphins win over the Rams and what it actually means for Fins fans who want to be the optimistic alternative to Dan's pessimism, but it also includes topic such as $10 cold brew at a Laguardia Bubby's, reruns on the Nathan's Hot Dogs at the Miami International Airport, Lucy eating an apple during the show to avoid being cranky, and whether, as Mark Twain said, it's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Download Bumble and try it for yourself. Greg, do you see your son spinning around all over the place here in a room that is presently empty because he's running back and forth to make up, trying to get everyone started and everyone's just eating muffins? Sure, yeah. Spinner like a dreidel over there. Do you understand what's happening around here where I've asked Chris that I want to start the show a little bit earlier so the YouTube audience could have a little more

privacy with us. Sure. And Chris is running back and forth like his hair is on fire because he's trying to get people out of a makeup room, a very small makeup room, by the way. It's incredibly small. It's as crowded as Grand Central Station in there. Yeah, that's the third time you've made that joke. My dad walked out of there trying to get makeup.

When's the last time you were in Grand Central Station? It's been a while. Do you even know if people are using Grand Central Station the way that they used to? Yeah, it's got the big elaborate stairways and everything. That was one of my dad's, while Bill Cody, that was his expression for anything that was crowded. Do you do realize though that you are now in the portion of your life and career where you make these same jokes like they're cliches. They're not cliches to everybody,

but you make them so often that they're your personal cliches. Yeah, isn't it beautiful? It's not really. It's lazy. You're a man that's very good with the language and you need to mix it up every time. You shouldn't be saying things that are bland, that are vanilla, because I've heard them for 50 years. Okay, I disagree with that. Grand Central Station is an evergreen. It's a classic. They could tear the building down. Grand Central Station could no longer exist and it would still work as a metaphor for, wow, it's crowded in here. It's like Grand Central Station in here. That's a family heirloom, okay,

that I'm passing down to Christopher. Chris, how often on the Greg Cody Show featuring Greg Cody, are you annoyed or frustrated by your father in general because he's just saying things he said all your life, saying expressions. Every time I'm around your dad, I am being pelted on the side of the face with 12 expressions that I've heard for 30 years. Same, and everyone's always like,

how are we still discovering these? But like once a week he says something in here and I'm like, yep, been hearing that my whole life. What's wrong with that? No, nothing's wrong with it, it's just, you're odd. I think it's also lazy though, I'm judging it. I'm saying that kind of thing. He's right though.

Welcome Billy, welcome back. Isn't there like a difference between Grand Central Station and Grand Central Terminal or am I wrong about that? Grand Central Terminal doesn't have a ring to it. I think the only reason that he said Grand Central Station for as long as he has is because it's a rhythmic musical phrase that is funny. He doesn't even care about the bustle of Grand Central Station. It's the comedic phrasing and in fact you ruin the joke Billy. Let me do this here. Hold on a second Got a minor penalty two minutes for ruining comedy

Dead it's it well, yeah that too. So I have to leave now Well, I don't know what the rules are during what isn't the Shadow Show anymore and what the listeners have rejected as the Trickling In show, but here's Stugats now as well. You look surprisingly Billy fresh-faced for what it is that you guys just did back and forth to Arizona. What does that mean, fresh-faced? You look good. You don't look weary, broken, tired by just flying back and forth.

Did you get some reprieve or relief from being dad for a weekend? No, no. My family brought his kids. I took them up early, out of pocket, took them up early. Thursday went up. We had a nice little desert experience. We went to Sedona, which is very nice on one of the days. We went for a nature trail yesterday before we flew back, but it got us in late, which I'm not like, I don't love flying. I'm not like afraid of it that I've kind of moved past that,

but like, I don't just like sitting still for a long time. Great when your team is playing a football game on a long flight. Oh, that was incredible. I got to watch the Dolphins game, I watched everything up until like the mid fourth quarter and then I just watched it on my phone as I was waiting for checked bags.

What a delight, what a delight. Wow, you are the only person in the history of checked bags at Miami airport saying what a delight. Someone came up to me, well I mean technology, incredible now, you have a television at the palm of your hands every day, right, in the palm of your hands? But you have it.

I couldn't take a step without watching the game if I didn't want to yesterday. Someone actually came up to me, a man that worked at the airport, tapped me on the shoulder, said, are you watching the game? And I was about to tell him, like, yeah, Finn's up. We're about to win this one. He's like, it's on the TV right there.

I was like, hey, thanks, buddy. Put the phone back in my pocket, watch the end of the game. What a game. Jason Sanders, huh? Over one and a half field goals. Stop it, Billy. Why do you say stop it? I mean, he's had his eye on Jason Sanders

for nearly three years now, and then he puts a bet in on Jason Sanders over one and a half field goals, and suddenly, he's the biggest Jason Sanders fan in the world. Not the biggest Jason Sanders fan, but Billy's Big Board Bet's another big weekend. We had three picks for our livestream, two and one on that,

and then I had my three picks for yesterday's Monday night or on the Monday episode of God Bless Football, two and one on that one too. I'm damn near, I gotta check the records here, but I think I'm like 29 and 14 at the moment. It's funny that you say that because all I saw was you holding up a sign that said HN over 104 and a half yards receiving and rushing and so I took that bet.

It's the only one. No, you should have taken all of them. That was the one not to take. You know the problem with that is when you have multiple negative 10 yard plays, really hard to get that done, really hard when you have multiple like negative ten yard plays really hard to get that done Really hard when you keep losing yards because every time you gain yards like that's good But if you lose yards like guards you gained they're out the window. They didn't even count so it didn't matter Jessica Lucy you guys have been doing more traveling than most around here recently. Do you guys find?

Miami International baggage claim as sad as anywhere in your travels that you will find? Because I find that area to be very sad, slow, it feels a bit third world. It doesn't make me feel like I'm in a big city getting my bags in Miami. Yes and no. So a lot of the time I fly out the Charlotte Airport which is where all dreams go to die. That place is terrible. I've waited like an hour plus for my bag at the Charlotte Airport before the Miami one. Yeah, it doesn't feel nice, but I will say it's the airport. I fly to where I see the most people waiting with balloons and signs more than

anywhere else. And it always makes me feel really warm inside. So I think it sort of cancels it out. I've never checked a bag at Miami ever. Ever? I've avoided at all costs. No, do not check a bag. Surprise Dan has checked a bag. I'm surprised he waits for his own bag. That's accurate. Every single time I've checked a bag at Miami they've had to buy me a new suitcase because they've broken it. Really? Yeah, it's happened to me like three or four times. They buy you a new suitcase? Yeah, so you like of your like three or four times. They buy you a new suitcase? Yeah, so you-

Like of your choosing? Yeah, no, so you have to like, if your suitcase is broken, this is what you do. I have learned the hard way. You go and immediately check after baggage claim, make sure everything is right, and then you have to go to whatever your airline counter is immediately.

Don't go home because they won't let you like send pictures. You have to go and do it in person and you have to show them your bag and they're like, okay Yeah, we broke that sorry about that and then you go and you submit a receipt for your luggage Which I usually just buy a new luggage and then submit that receipt and they'll pay you back in like a month And when when your valet is waiting for your baggage Does he report back to you whether it's taking a long time? You guys are funny with this, but I regularly wait for my own bag. That's great Does he report back to you whether it's taking a long time? You guys are funny with this, but I regularly wait for my own bag.

That's great. I've got you with like somebody who has the sign that says Levitard. Well, no, I have that too. Oh, okay. Right, but we have you in the car and that guy waiting for the bag. No, he doesn't know which bag it is. The sign doesn't say Levitard because that would be, you know, that would be an invasion of privacy.

You've got a code name. What is your nom de plume? I don't have a nom de plume, it just says Levatard. Carl Morris? That's hard to believe. When you say you wait for bags you wait at the carousel you wait for Jeeves to bring it over. You guys keep making same versions of the same jokes but you're ignoring that I'm telling you that I probably stand in baggage claim just as much as you do. We're not ignoring it, we just don't believe it. Okay, well. But your butler's name Jeeves, right? I, Juan, Juan.

Mike. My fake name is Flackman. Flackman, what's the first name? The card Jack. Jack Flackman. Ah, that makes sense. Classic. Looks funny on a card too.

Yeah, Jack Flackman. With a K, double C, one C, how we spell Flackman? C-K. C-K, all right. F-L-A-C-K-M-A-N, the standard spelling. That's right. What am I gonna put, Cody? It's an invasion of privacy. Yeah. There's a lot that's an invasion of privacy. When I'm washing my hands in a bathroom, a public bathroom, the loud hand dryer is an invasion of my privacy. I don't want people to know I'm in the bathroom drying my hands.

I don't want paper towels either. I want to come out of the bathroom with wet hands. You shake them like that and then you air dry them. Old school. Yeah, you go like this. That's how we used to do it. Yeah. When you hear about David Sampson's bathroom.

The amount of towel options you have there, it's crazy. Really? Just don't use the wrong one. Have you been there? No, he talked about it the other day. He's got a hand towel, an ass towel, and a body towel. My dad's the opposite. One towel for everything.

Seems like he wants no towels though. Right, I want no towels. Yeah. You don't need them. Your father's unclean. Hair? No, I wash my hands. Your father's just generally unclean.

No, that's not true. I have hygiene out the ass. Yeah, you tell him. You tell him. I lead the league in hygiene. Yes. Okay, when I'm in the bathroom, I wash my hands. I even use soap.

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You pack so light that you've been able to always avoid that, because I can't avoid that. I would love to be able to avoid. What Lucy is seeing at MIA, I think, is where she sees all the balloons and stuff. I think that's a lot of international stuff, and I that's people coming in from cuba and people are like reuniting with families what lucy seeing there that's a happy part of the airport the saddest part of one of the saddest airports in america is that baggage claim and i can't believe jessica's been able to avoid it i don't pack like i pack very heavy but i'd compacted all into one luggage thing

that is a carry-on size i I don't actually have packing cubes. I don't need packing cubes. I shove that shit in, I sit on my suitcase, I zip it up, and then I use like the jaws of life to put it in the overhead compartment by myself, and then I pack a second bag to the brim that I can barely lift up and put that under the... Just to avoid, to purposely that that particular sad baggage don't mess with baggage claim I don't mess with checked bags if it doesn't fit in my carry-ons I'm not bringing it I don't need it I'm I will never check a bag but you're saying you do this at any airport this is not specific to Miami Airport yeah I would do it at nice LaGuardia it

doesn't matter if it's my LaGuardia baggage claim so nice they've really improved LaGuardia I don't know nice. They've really improved LaGuardia. I don't know what, I don't know how much money they've poured into LaGuardia. It was such a dump and now they've just, they've made it lovely and I wonder why no one in Miami is doing anything comparable. Why is Miami International Airport so bad?

Like I think it's fine, it's just an airport, right? Like I'm not trying. No, it's bad. That's fine, it's a good enough airport. I'm not trying to live there. Like I'm just kind of getting in there, getting on a bird. Right. You're trying to get in and out. In and out, get on the bird, get off of it.

Exactly right. I'm not looking to hang out in the wild. One of the problems is Bagg's claim makes it so you can't get in and out. And it suggests to me that you guys aren't seeing a whole lot of airports if you're seeing this. I mean Miami's not the worst. I've been to a lot worse airports in Miami.

There's goo coming out of the ceiling. It's pretty bad. Anti-freeze. There's goo coming out of the ceiling and you do a little tube into a garbage can. And a raccoon, I think. That was at LaGuardia. Yeah.

Okay. Is there any? Is that a JFK? I don't know, JFK is gross. Is there any better feeling in the world than when you sit on a stuffed luggage and then you close that extra compartment that opens up and you're like, yeah, I made this the small one.

This fits now. Love that. Good feeling. Dan, you know the feeling? There are fits now love that feeling Dan You know the feeling there are better feelings in that really yeah, really? All of your Billy go sit out for I go sit outside really he just got back Great feeling I did last weekend. Yeah, but I needed him to keep the show for a second. I was looking down at papers and he did it on purpose.

No, I was getting mad. Like I needed him to hold on to the show for a second. He's tired, I mean. You sent him out to the penalty box, no specific time. When should he come back? I mean. I don't know. Okay.

I think we're all in shock here because LaGuardia has been rated the greatest airport in America all of a sudden. And my entire life, I have experienced that place as a hell hole, and I will not believe it until I go see it myself. No, it's not, Lizzie, I'm telling you, I got a $7 cold brew at a LaGuardia Bubbies last week.

They have made it like the fancy person's airport. It's ridiculous. They fixed it. What LaGuardia used to be, which was puzzling to me, because I'm like, New York, you're a giant city with all the money, how can you have such a terrible airport? And then it seemed like from six months to the next, I know they did some construction,

but it's not just that they did it, they did it in an enormously fast fashion and took their airport from 1980. Well, it's not fast. The bathrooms though, the bathrooms are so nice. Love taking a piss in those bathrooms. It is just the nicest bathroom you'll ever see in New York City.

It doesn't have one of those hand dryers where it's next to the sink, so the water just blows back in your face because that's like new technology, but I also didn't think they thought that through because that water just comes right back at you. Don't get me started on hand dryers. I want to get you started.

No, it used to be just the one that blew out from a round thing and now it's these ones where you gotta put your hands like this. Right, inside, yes. Yeah, it's uncleanly. Everyone else has stuck their hands in there. Everyone's touching it and going like this and you know, it's uncleanly. Everyone else has stuck their hands in there. Everyone's touching it and going like this. And you know, it's counterproductive.

But airports are all about food, are they not? That's all you really care about. Food, booze, flight. Well, I mean, I'll go to Miami just to hit that Nathans. I will. Miami International. It's the nicest Nathans. I don't want to do this again. Please reruns on the Nathans airport in Miami. I don't want to do this again with you to God's please reruns on the Nathan's airport

at Miami like I don't want to do this again with you. I didn't bring up airports, you did. I don't, the only information you have on airports is that you like the Nathan's? That is how I judge an airport, the food situation. I like to take a good lap, go right, even if my gate's to the left, I'm walking right. I gotta see what they got to offer.

Right, yeah. And then you walk over there and it's just like a zone of Fresca, It's like, God damn it. I wanted something better than this. Very disappointing. Yeah. Miami's disappointing that way too. I don't know how many airports you're traveling to that you think the Miami International Airport

is not an international embarrassment. I feel like the SkyTrain is also always broken and always under construction. And there have been times where I have almost missed my flight even though I got there very early because you have to walk a mile to your gate it's crazy I'm curious among us who are the big travelers here because Stugatz's airport information isn't very good if he thinks that the Miami International Airport is an airport in America that doesn't pale to any other good airports. It is

an abomination. Oh, I'm not saying it's a great airport. I've been to O'Hare. That's that's a disaster for me because when you land, it takes, you know, probably 20 minutes to get to the gate. Yeah, it's just too big. You're taking

trains. You're doing a lot of work in that airport. Miami Airport, I'm not saying it's the greatest airport in the world. I'm just saying it serves its purpose. It's not the worst. I've seen worse airports. It's a misuse of space. It's huge. No, stop.

You've got a whole area where it's like high-end shopping. Who does all that on their way to, I don't know, Milwaukee? Traveler nonsense. International travelers. Yeah, they do. I mean, it might not be useful to you, but it's useful to someone.

There's a reason those stores are there. It makes the concourse so long, and you have to just walk for miles. If you have to take a train, I hate your airport. Dallas Airport, get out of here with that. You have to go in circles. That's the way I judge airports. If I have a tight connection,

if I have like a 45 minute connection, I don't wanna feel stressed. Like I to take two trains and a trolley and a tram to get you know into a different terminal you want to get off your plane and your next planes right at the next gate exactly yes and but I will fly in and out of Fort Lauderdale to avoid Miami even if the flight isn't quite as convenient Fort Lauderdale is not great oh it's so much better than Miami really I can also tell you that Miami has no direct flights to Milwaukee.

They have no direct flights anywhere. Who wants to go there though? Respectfully. I wanna ask the group here off of last night's game and I'm serious about this. How am I to talk today about the three and six Miami Dolphins? And the reason that I ask you

this question okay because I'm doing a lot of reading these days during these dark times and Mark Twain has the quote and it hit me in the heart this quote it's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right I have been the pessimist who is always right about the dolphins for 25 years and it's a suffering I don't want to live my life like this. I also don't want to live a life that has to pay attention to last night's game. Has to pay attention because a two and six team is winning to make themselves three and six and it's to me and and they've got an easy schedule the rest of

the way. Yes. So it's gonna be another one of these dumbass dances of try to get there and if you get there like physically crawling on your hands and knees and then lose in the first round because you spent the season losing. And it's just another recyclable, but that's not the mood today when you go on the West Coast and win a football game. That was a big win for the Dolphins. I know you don't want to hear that today, but it puts them back into the playoff mix.

It really does. It does. I mean, you don't think this team with Tua, they're a different team with Tua. We can all agree. We can get to why is Tua trying to tackle someone when he throws an interception a little bit later, but you could agree this is a different team with Tua

and when their wide receivers are healthy, the defense is coming around. Like I could see this team making it to the playoffs and possibly winning a game or two. See, I hate this. Really? Yeah, because if I'm... But Dan, that's what football is. It's hope. So, I do this with the Saints today? The Saints... If you're driving through New Orleans right now and they're talking about that victory the same way. Right. You're like, that's ridiculous. You're like

listening. Anybody who turned three and six or three and seven yesterday with a win, you're not that's ridiculous yet you know like listening anybody who turned three six or three and seven yesterday with the wind you're not listening to that show and be in like you know what i do think that that team can make a playoff run if you've got six or seven losses by this point in the season six or seven losses i'm not counting on you to make a deep playoff run i understand that but the conferences are different so the green bay packers of the seven seed right now they're six and three I don't think the Saints think they're gonna catch that but in the AFC that final playoff spot is five and five and they're three and six. The final playoff spot this is what I'm

telling you about this damn sport that's so funny all right you leak in as a sixth seed and what you're gonna go lose. It's just because the playoffs are big. Who are you gonna play in the first round? The Bills, well you don't wanna play the Bills. That's not a good situation. That's a defeatist attitude. Hopefully the Chiefs fall. Yeah, look at this, how do you talk about this team?

Second place Miami Dolphins, huh? Clicking on all cylinders now. They haven't been healthy all season. They missed their quarterback for four games. Their top wide receiver had a mysterious knee surgery that no one knew about that we They haven't been healthy all season. They missed their quarterback for four games. Their top wide receiver had a mysterious knee surgery that no one knew about that we only found out about because of his detainment, not arrest, and in said detainment, not arrest.

He injured his wrist, which he wasn't able to play or able to practice on Friday, but he played through it. He's been hurt. Jalen Watto, who they paid a ton of money to, can't catch the ball worth a darn. Like that's what's going on right now. Yeah. They had a guy that broke his orbital socket

and he's back to playing because he has a visor on now and sure enough you can break your orbital socket but a week later just put a piece of plastic in front of it and you're good to go. Like that's the team. The defense was the revelation last night. If that defense can play the way it did against a healthy Rams offense,

Akeman was saying last night, this is the best passing offense, the Dolphins have faced off all season, and they looked good. Like he said, Seeler being back, Javon Holland being back, I'm with you, Dan. This is not a Super Bowl team right now, but I don't agree with you that I'm fine being the seventh

seed fighting for a playoff spot, even if you lose that game, it's better than just missing the playoffs. They sacked Matthew Stafford four times which is significant because they had 10 sacks all season going into last night's game they were second to last in the league in defensive sacks they're going to win the next two games to get to five and six all right see that i'm not doing that with this team why okay i'm just i mean it's because if he gets hurt in the first quarter you guys are

all going to be surprised and then calling for his retirement. Well that's Chris Grewsburg. But that goes without saying if anybody gets hurt. If Patrick Mahomes gets hurt right now, what happens to the Chief? You trust Carson Wentz? They just want two Super Bowls though. It's totally different. It's not only totally different what two Super Bowls and the Dolphins haven't won a playoff game in 20-something years. That's it's not just different there. It's also different from there's no margin for error left these guys doing oh that's a win that's a win easy schedule as if the Dolphins haven't been the easy thing on everyone's schedule for five weeks is funny. I know but now they're healthy and their quarterback is back and they're playing

at home the Raiders and the Patriots those are two games, I'm with Greg, they are going to win those games. I know you hate that, but they're gonna win those games. I look at the Dolphins remaining schedule, there's a very reasonable pathway to eight wins. What they're gonna have to do is win a game you don't expect them to win. They're gonna have to get to nine wins. In this league, nine wins is gonna make the wild card,

and they can do that. All right, I don't trust a nine and eight team to win the Super Bowl. No. Maybe. The Packers did it as a nine and 17. I don't trust a nine and eight team. Stugach, you can do outliers with me all day.

You could do Trent Dilford, too. I don't want him as my quarterback. Like, it's fine that he was a champion that one year. Don't want him or anyone like him ever as my quarterback. The difference though is that if you do make the playoffs as the lowest seed instead of just having a season where you don't and you lose a couple more games, it's a difference between like a top 15 pick

and like a bottom of the first round pick, right? Like that's sort of what you're playing for at that point. If I may, because being a Dolphins fan for as long as Dan has been a Dolphins fan is different than any other fandom. And so, yes, I think if you look at the big picture and say, okay, that team could end up, whatever that number is, nine and eight,

and squeak into the playoffs, that's fine. But having to watch the entire way, this team that you think is supposed to be explosive, but what, they get Tyree Kill a one yard touchdown just so he can celebrate? Like, it's not fun to watch. You're watching with your eyes covering, with your eyes covered because you don't want to

or to get hurt. You think the running game is good, but you really have a running game that's reliable that you can give a running back 30, you know, 30 carries to and let them carry you. No, it just doesn't seem like it's a sustainable thing and it's certainly not fun to watch this way. Not like last year.

I mean the drop off offensively from last year is epic. But there's still a team that has a chance. If you're a Dolphin fan, you're allowed to hope. It's not illegal to hope. I'm very frustrated by this. You got more muscular? Mm-hmm. I have lost 10 pounds.

Have you? Yeah, using my Peloton. I've had the Peloton in my house so my daughter, she wanted me to get a Peloton. I did. She used it a couple of times. Yeah, great endorsement. But once she left to college and the Peloton was just sitting there in my office and it wasn't being used, I said, you know what? I got to use this and I have lost 10 to 12 pounds, Billy. So I started using Peloton as a bike, obviously that's like what they're known for But recently I discovered all of the other classes that they have. They have like a series of weightlifting classes They have programs which for me the programs is great because I don't have to think about what I'm doing If not, I just go and I pick a class at random and I don't know that I'm actually

Accomplishing anything. I would like some recommendations on classes because I keep going to the same class. Okay It's the Grateful Dead class by the way. Do do like a four week core program with Emma Lovewell. I would recommend that one. Anyone can do that. Any level starts out easy, and then you work your way up. And then there's like a core program two that you can do after core program one, if you want to do that.

Yeah, if you graduate. Wait a second. You have to graduate course one to get to course two, the harder course? Well, you can start a course two if you want, but I eased my way in. I did course one first. Then you can do some strength classes with Andy,

love a strength class with Andy, he really puts me through it. I get up and I'm like a sweaty mess, and I'm kind of disgusting and I love it. You know the thing about Peloton's Dugats? What? Peloton coaches, they walk the walk. Really?

Yeah. Do they talk the talk? They have sub three hour marathon runner coaches, they have military trained athlete coaches coaches former college basketball player coaches And so many other well-rounded coaches on their team all this experience really shows in their classes You're never short of challenging you can do some resistance band classes. I got some resistance bands lately You're my teacher. Am I yeah, you know, no, I'm not well I just go with the program so then okay, because I don't know I don't know what I'm doing anyways

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D'inlibetard! All right, we gotta go back out there. That was big. Wake him up. Uh oh. He doesn't want to be bothering anymore. Now it's getting tense because he didn't need that as a result. He needs something that happens.

You can see him mother effing. Can we bother? Are we bothering you right now? Turn on your microphone. My microphone's on. Stugats. Paint the scene. Paint the scene is I gotta go to work. Good night. This is the Don LeVatar

show with the Stugats. I can't help but be frustrated by this because this has to be exasperating to listen to if you're not someone who cares about the Dolphins you're like really they're gonna do the here comes the Dolphins. You're like, really? They're going to do the, here comes the three and six team because they want a Monday night game. They won eight. They won the most recent game played. And so the last month where we have spent declaring that the season is over now changes because you get to three and six. I can't do this today.

I don't think it's just last night's game. I think it's, it's the fact that they played at Buffalo the week before. They played a very good game. They lost that game, but it's a game they could have won. Then they won last night's game. Dan, last year in the NFC, yeah, the Packers get in as the seventh seed at nine and eight. They went in the road, they beat Dallas. Like I think Dolphins fans would take something like that. Okay. And Dolphins fans will take something like that of course their three and six i know they could be five they'll take anything anything they will take

that's feels positive and last night was positive when jessica speaks of draft picks in this part the evolution of this one has been super interesting to me in that sport where everyone's jostling for do we want to trade your fifth round pick a fourth round pick because it's all about maneuvering to get value contracts to find players you could just lock up because you got someone in the fourth round that no one was expecting you to and then you can lock him up for a long time so ship when she says the

difference between the top fifteen pick and a bottom fifteen pick i'd state right now the top fifteen pick and say be done with this dolphin really i don't need to see any more done with this dolphin really i don't need to see anymore right from this dolphin season i don't because what it is that they're playing with having their quarterback run around in service of this one yard passes to tiger you kill because the window is now now now now now and it has no vision whatsoever i'd take the top pick now and be done with the rest the season but i don't know what to do I honestly don't know what to do nationally with the fact that

I'm sitting in a room full of people who when they talk about the Dolphins are going to get overly excited about getting to three and six. I'm just saying, they technically kept their season alive last night. I really think that's all any of us are saying. But we're making fun of Jessica because her Steelers aren't that good with two losses and we're saying that can't win deep in the playoffs I texted Lehman at like 11 p.m. Last night and said they're gonna talk about the Rams like they're the 2007 Patriots tomorrow morning

They're gonna they're gonna be so excited about this guys the Dolphins defense They were good, but Matthew Stafford was bad. That Rams offense could not stop getting out of their own way. They couldn't stop making mistakes. They looked terrible last night. And that is a 500 team that has struggled this entire season. And yes, you can look down the schedule and look at Vegas and New England and the Jets and say, okay, we're going to win these games. But this is not an easy schedule. This is not an easy schedule. And I love schedule talk. I see a loss, I see a loss, I see wins, but not a lot of them.

It's the second easiest schedule in the league. It is empirically the second easiest. I just, I mean, after the next, there's two games that are easy and then it gets tough again, but it's just, I'm not ready to quit on this team yet. I'm just not ready to quit on this team. But the macro, Dan, it is sad that last year we felt like we had arrived. The Dolphins are a good team yet. I'm just not ready to quit on this team. But the macro, Dan, it is sad that last year we felt like we had arrived.

The Dolphins are a good team now. And we're a year later, and we're back to just being middle of the road. So I'm with you on the macro. Middle of the road is not three and six. It's losing two thirds of your games. This is a middle, like- You're starting quarterback, missed four games.

This is like, this is a middle of the road team, like talent wise. This is not one of the worst rosters in the league. But to your point, that's the last place you want to be directly in the middle So it's just sad that we seem to have gone from a good team Back to being just one of those middle teams and that I agree with you that is sad I thought that our run of being a good team was gonna last longer than just last year But that's all predicated on the quarterback being healthy when your quarterback is healthy, you're a good team. Is that fair to say?

You're a good offense. What's wrong with a little positivity and hope? What's going on here? Why can't we be happy? Why can't we be happy? Like yesterday was a big win. Why can't we be happy? Kaleus Campbell found a ute yesterday apparently, secured himself a spot in Canton last night.

We just want to be happy and positive about the team. I'll tell you why. Because someone has to tug on the other side of the rope when we sound ridiculous celebrating a three and 16. You guys sound ridiculous thinking they don't have a shot. As if it means something to win the only game played in football.

We have to talk about that just because it was the only game played yesterday. Like, and I really, honestly, like I know, I know that when Dolphin fans hear this, this is not what anyone wants to do 12 hours after that victory is here. That they want to hear these guys celebrating this season as they have the last 20

and been wrong. So give it to them. No, you're letting the coaches and the front office off the hook if you're doing that, because yes, Tua got hurt. They knew that Tua had concussion issues going to the season and what was their backup plan what was the backup plan to not know that Skyler Thompson couldn't be their starter and then to panic and then just go get a guy that

they had to get you know five seconds of preparation for I'm good not talking about the game at all for the remainder of the show what I want to talk about is why to a feels the need to tackle and the Dolphins should have a guy on the field that when Tua throws an interception, that guy's job is to tackle Tua to prevent Tua from trying to do it. Very gently. Two-hand touch. I mean, whatever, just shove him to the ground. Which is it? Is it two-hand touch, shove him to the ground, gently or tackle him? What's the job you're offering? Somebody has to gently cradle him. Put it on the pole at LeBataar's show.

Should the Dolphins give a roster spot to someone who gently cradles Tua whenever he throws an interception? Or you just teach, you get in his face, you say, hey, Tua, listen to me. When you throw an interception, you sit on the field crisscross applesauce. That's what you do immediately.

You don't move, you don't run after the play. Wherever you are in the field, you sit crisscross applesauce. That's what you do immediately. You don't move, you don't run after the play, wherever you are on the field, you sit crisscross applesauce. That's a funny visual of Tua just like in the middle of a play throwing an interception. He's got a special skill to get his head wherever the action is. Like it wasn't even just on this one, it was another offensive play.

He's just reckless with his brain. Well in his defense on this play where he tried to make a tackle, he's the last line of defense. He goes to the sideline No he's not there were so many doubles 72 is right there Look at the full look at the full image at the other angle the last line of look

There's a player right there in the shot even you turn his body You can't use his head you can't coach it out of two Apparently because he did a last week in Buffalo where he's diving headfirst He's trying to dive at people's legs, which by the way is kind of a dirty hit, but he's trying to dive at people's legs here also. Like Tua, I love Tua. I want Tua to succeed.

I want him to be my long-term quarterback. I think that when he's healthy, he's good obviously with this system. However, it seems inevitable that this is going to happen again with the way that he plays and he's not changing his style of play So I don't know what you do with him because like you can feel bad for him I feel bad for him that he keeps having these things happen

But he also keeps putting himself in positions for these to happen over and over again So it's kind of like to a buddy. I love you, but you're doing this to yourself. Like what are we doing here? I understand everything that everyone is saying, totally reasonable. I will tell you guys again that warriors tend not to consider consequences, otherwise they wouldn't be warriors. And so what ends up happening in that situation is you are right, not unlike George Pickens plays weird.

Tuah will find your knee with his head. Like, I don't know how, I don't know how it is he's doing that, but he's scaring the hell out of us because everyone, we're all telling him, crisscross applesauce, stand up, sit down, have someone cradle you, something else. He's like, no, I'm going head first, right for the knees. Moving, running knees is where I'm going. To right for the knees. Moving, running knees is where I'm going. To the death of me. He is so brave. And in pursuit of let's get to three and six. That's no, you gotta get to three and six

before you can get to nine and seven, Dan, duh. Yeah. Do you, I think mathematically you don't. No, you do when you're two and six. You gotta get to three and six before you can get to nine and seven. Oh yes, when you're two and six. Yes, when you're two and six. Three, four, five, six. But you know, yes, when you're two and six you gotta get the three and six before you get to 97 It's simple math Yes, when you're two and six

Three, four, five, six Yes, when you're two and six You gotta run You do have to get to three and six You don't think this team has a shot, huh? Oh, I'm just so tired of the illusion that this sport is Yes, they have a shot because every two-win team has a shot That doesn't mean they all actually have a shot

Yeah, but like can I ask you a question? Nine and O, Kansas City What do you think about them? Yeah, all like can I ask you a question? Nine and O Kansas City. What do you think about them? Yeah, all one score wins and Yes, I thought last year just like Stu got they could be beaten and they won the Super Bowl when the Dolphins went there With a lot of hope they didn't get anything I like that Chris is acting like this is that like 2006 Steelers Colts game where Ben Rathasberger was the literal last player and Saved the tackle by I know in this shot Armstead's there,

but there's a shot when he's approaching where Tua is the last guy. Was he a ghost? Like what's happening here? Even if he is the last guy, so what? You're the quarterback. Look, I'm just saying, it would have been an odd look if Tua was just like, oop, and he like got out of the way

and let the guy go. No, you say it's an odd look. Jessica, you bring up that particular play call. It's one of the biggest arguments Dugats and I have ever had on air. He finally, he finally he does this quietly just wanders over to my side of the argument and makes the argument for a dolphin roster spot going to someone to cradle to uh... when he throws an interception but on that play that you're talking

about with rothlesberger in a playoff game was the last line of defense i'm yelling at stewugats, the quarterback in every circumstance needs to because he is so valuable against the salary cap. Anytime he throws an interception, get the hell off of the field. Don't ever one time make a tackle. And Stugats was arguing with me, not incorrectly, Dan, how ridiculous would it look if Tua throws an interception and immediately sprints away from all the action. Yes, it would look totally ridiculous and I am here for it for the rest of his career. Guys, there's a middle ground which is don't put your head down. There is a middle ground which is try to stay on

your two feet with your head up and push the guy out of bounds. He put his head down and got need in the head. He did not. He turned his body into that runner., he did not turn his look at it again Dan is saying sprint away from that runner and and I How was he not lowering his head? Guys he doesn't know how to tackle. He's just a guy trying not to die He tried to know he's not like I would argue. He's not what to say there right? He's not wrapping the player He's just dropping his body and putting his head directly in front of his knee. That is not a man looking to not die.

You guys aren't seeing the same play I'm looking at. Greg, he got hit in the helmet with a knee. No he didn't. Yes he did. Turn and shove it. Show the chrissing. Did it happen another time? Are you watching a different clip? Greg, he does get hit by the runner's knee,

hits him in the side of the helmet toward the bottom. It's not on his skull, but he is hit by a knee there by the runner. You see his helmet give there. I just don't think there is a middle ground here. I'm not arguing for the middle ground. I'm telling him to get down flat on the ground. Make sure no one can hit him, get on your stomach. You're telling him to get down flat on the ground. Make sure no one can hit him, get on your stomach.

Fetal position, whatever. Just whatever the way is. He's become a speed bump, slow him down at least. No, no speed bump. I don't want him anywhere near where the tackles are happening. You guys don't look at the last couple games and say, wow, there's depth on this team.

John Ousmith has become a great target for Tua. Yesterday, OBJ, 17 yards, like there's weapons here. Let's try it this way. Of the three win teams, this is the best one. There you go, Dan. I like it. Is that fair? Is it?

Yeah. I mean, who's better than them with three wins? I don't have the schedule in front of me. I just was worried about this 20 minutes ago. I think if we can convince Dan by the end of the show to be hopeful for the Dolphins, then we have given all fans hope. And I think it should be a goal for you, too.

Well, let's do it another way, because I'm accused all the time of being in an insulated bubble where I don't get the real feelings of america that fan uh... so well that hurt so much i'm sorry really wounded me in a place that said that personal to me yes capable of being a best i love when people judge my fandom is insufficient compared to their friend of coming from a total career homer

lucy i wanna bring you in here because I want to know what you think of this talk as I wrestle with optimist pessimist what's the correct way to do this between the Miami audience and the national audience that's laughing at us as a Miami show because trying to talk yourself into three and six is pathetic nine weeks into the season are we supposed to be funny don't we want them laughing at us? Yeah. Isn't that good? Right?

Laughing with us is what we prefer. Laughing because of things that we're doing. Laughing. Laughing. Yeah. Mirthful, joyful. But you're experiencing, because I've seen you wander away. You ate an entire apple during this segment. Okay, in my defense, we have randomly just started, look, in my defense, we have randomly just started the show early, no one told me we were doing that.

So I had to eat breakfast, because guess what, what if I passed out? Would've been good content, but it wouldn't have been good for me. Or even worse, what if I was cranky, because I was hungry? Right? Now I'm not, now I'm in a good mood so I can be the optimist for your pessimist.

You're welcome. But you're surrounded by all of these people who are talking hopefully about a three and six team. No, about a team that's about to be five and six. There you go. Right, if you look at the NFL standings, two weeks from now they're five and six. Well said.

And they're right back in it. It's such a rallying cry. It really is. It's what I signed up for when the Dolphins went all in this season. Can they get to five and six with the guaranteed two wins, Cody gives you. And don't let them get to six and six.

Because if they do, that is a statement. That win over the Packers to put them at six and six, don't let that happen, America. Because then there's a train and you can't stop that from moving. Was it the last Brian Flores season where they finished the season on like the seven game win streak against all teams with the below 500 record

and everyone was like, hey, how about the Dolphins? What a year. My favorite of those was Chad Pennington, top five in MVP. They go 11 and five in one score games, get to the playoffs and get ransacked by Ed Reed in the first round and Ray Lewis by 30 points. I think he was the runner-up Chad Paddington Yeah, I think he finished second because they won all these one score games You know who that is this year the Chiefs are that you're hard to impress Team wins by one score that does all these one score wins. I like it's just like there's more than just Super Bowl

Dan Chris, it's not playoff. It would be amazing Yes, but this is the part though where I stop you because the Dolphins have been on this particular Treadmill in my lifetime turning your father the homer who used to cover a national team They became a regional team because of all of the 20 years of that off we get there We'll get a game and then they bid the and and they will go through one step into the johnson and run them out of town and the twenty years after that if we get a game if we get a game in the playoffs it'll mean something and no team in the sport

that puts into its rules equality were all the games are close no team in the sport has done less playoff winning the last twenty something years than the Miami Dolphins. I've seen in my lifetime over the last twenty years I've seen the Bills go from no playoff appearances in seventeen years to now they're dominant. I've seen the Lions go from an international laughing stock to now they're dominant and you're still arguing with me twenty years after I had to endure seven years of arguing about Tannahill you're still saying hey three and six and hope and I'm like bleep out of here. The Jets are still the Jets though I mean. I don't understand when we argue you need a

ring to be successful like we're bad but the Dolphins need a ring to impress you. No they need to not be three and six with him guaranteeing that they'll get to five and six. Don't let them get to six and six. Just view it as they're to five and six. And that's what I'm supposed to celebrate. Just view it as they're already five and six. Try it that way. That's still a losing record. One and O in the last one. In the hunt. Guys, Dan's being very reasonable about this take.

Nah. OK. I see what you're doing though, Dan. What happened to yes and there, nah? What happened? Yeah. Why couldn't Brian Flores just get on that boat? Just illegally meet and tamper with Tom Brady.

Everything would have been different. I think what Dan's doing is he recognizes that everybody wants to see him unhappy and to see him be wrong. And so he's basically getting the rest of the country onto the Dolphins, having them cheer with us. Don't let them get to six and six. The rest of the country will be looking at you, Dan. Correct. Fans have to play the cards they're dealt. Yeah. Okay dolphin fans right now have been dealt a bad hand with two was four game injury with a three and six record. It's a bad head more than a bad

hand. Okay but the hand they're dealt right now is that we have two very very very winnable games we're gonna be five and six and then talk to me. Don't let them get to six and six. And if the local media continues to say hey how be five and six and then talk to me. That's the hand. Don't let them get to six and six. And if the local media continues to say, hey, how about five and six? Then the front office will continue to have no pressure on them to deliver something better. I wrote a column. When Tua was hurt, I wrote a column second guessing their whole roster construct. This was the classic team with Tua's vulnerability. This was the team that needed a Joe Flacco and Andy Dalton.

Somebody experiences a backup and they didn't do it. That's a fatal flaw if they don't turn it around to make the playoffs. I want to understand from you guys who are watching a half a season of football and we're sitting here measuring it every single week and we measure it even though we can't predict what kind of injuries there are We can only guarantee you that there will be many many injuries When the Dolphins win that game on Monday night with a point total by the way that is fine But I don't think it's sustainable to consider that you're going to hold teams it's sustainable to consider that you're going to hold teams consistently like the rams to fifteen points and get into one of these games where they decide they're going to kick nothing but field goals and they're going to like i'm

watching the game i'd i'd legitimately can't tell is this the dolphins doing it to them with four sacks or is this the rams just not functioning the way they normally function for whatever the reasons are that i'm not understanding and they're getting stuck with five field goals instead of winning that game thirty five twenty three when you go across the country and you play a team that's otherwise mediocre in a mediocre division that we're assuming san francisco is going to win because we're not expecting

arizona to stay atop it but all the teams in that division have four losses cuz everybody's got four losses because they're more bad teams in the league than there are good teams in the league for sure how do you do the analysis on what happened last night that isn't just merely well there three and six and now they can be five and six i'm talking about real measurements about what you're watching there are small underdog in that game because all of the teams are just about the same and in this particular game,

the Rams had to settle for five field goals in a way they don't usually have to settle for five field goals. Is it something that I'm just obligated to give the Dolphins credit for that or can I look at the Rams and be like, well that's not normal for them? I think most people don't expect their team

to be fully formed or be ready to roll until playoff time. So you could argue that the Dolphins, without their quarterback for a little while, with some injuries they have to work through, figuring out which weapons are the best weapons, John New Smith probably most reliable one. So you're saying to yourself, okay, just stay in the hunt while we figure this out.

By week 16, 17, maybe this is the 70 point offense again. Maybe not, but it might be something better that gives you some hope. I'm just trying to let Dan know how to be a fan a little bit and not rule out your team for the rest of the season. This is what fans do. I guarantee you Rams fans were doing the same thing last night.

Their team looked dreadful. That offense looked dreadful, but they're looking at their schedule and trying to figure out what's the path for us to get to the playoffs. Dan, the Jets have never looked worse. I spent the entire plane ride home figuring out how the Jets could to get to the playoffs. Dan, the Jets have never looked worse. I spent the entire plane ride home figuring out how the Jets could make it to the playoffs because that's what fans do.

We hope. You say that's what fans do, but that team as a coach and a quarterback that have won Super Bowls, this one has been watched for two decades in Miami and you guys have been wrong for two decades making this argument with me. Like for two damn decades, you guys have been wrong

every single time, hoping every single time. But what are you afraid of? Because we're choosing to be happy here. You're afraid of being happy and trusting this team and then looking silly at the end of the year? Who cares? Look silly then, be sad then. Why are you gonna be sad for 18 weeks of the year?

Be happy now, be sad at the end. A year ago, Tua made the Pro Bowl, stayed healthy, the Dolphins had the best or second best offense in the entire league. No apologies for coming into this season with high expectations. And I don't blame the whole thing on 2 of missing four games, although that's a huge part of it. Since 2 has been back, they've scored 27, 28, and 23 points. That's not bad. That's much better than it had been. And the defense is healthier than it's been all season. Zach Seiler back in the lineup was huge last night. Sealer.

And they were very good. You know, they had a good... Tomato, tomato. Matthew Stafford looked bad because the Dolphins made him look bad. And so, you know, I'll be as optimistic as I want to be you know, I'll be as optimistic as I want to be. Well, I get scared of Seeler's name too, though. I got to be honest. It's happened the entire time. I get scared. I got to be honest. I was scared when we sat across from him. I thought I was going to say Seiler as well.

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