The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Annoying Voices

Episode Date: December 11, 2025

"Hello, Valerie." Pablo Torre -- a man who is both a starf***** and a name-dropper -- is in yet another feud as he faces fraud accusations from the Shipping Container, but he also used his journalistic credentials to hear a sound that has never been heard before. Also, Bevacqua? Today's episode: Dan, Pablo, Roy, Amin, Jeremy, Mike, Tony, and Zaslow. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dan is still in New York. We're here in Miami. It's cold here. It is a little bit cold here. I walked out. It was a little nipply, right? Is it nippily? Yeah, it's nippily.

I say nipply. It's both. It's a little niply. It's not both. I've never heard somebody say it's a little nippily outside. I have heard someone say it's nipply outside, but not about the weather. Hey. Tell you what, though.

I woke up feeling good today. Yeah. I don't know if you guys are aware. seems like the Florida Panthers might be back, baby. Come on now. We're clawing back. Come on now. Turned that corner. I think I figured this whole thing out with the Florida Panthers as

they can be a certain level of hurt. But once they pass that threshold of hurt and get even more hurt, then they seem to struggle. So they were for a little bit here they were over that threshold you're saying. That's right. But now you have her Hagee back. You have Mr. Rhinan back. All of a sudden

Sam Bennett finds his form. You got the defenseman scoring some goals. God forbid. Seth Jones. Cats are clawing back. No, Seth Jones, my dog. I don't know if you know about that. Roy?

Get the table. Yeah. I think I figured it out. How many points back are we? I don't know. I think there's three back of the third and like four back in the division. But they have games in hand. Games in hand.

I love games in hand. I think I figured it out. More of the players need to have babies. It's gone over Hagee. He's on that baby bump right now. Get after it, guys. You know what they say about a game in hand? We're two in the bush?

That's exactly. exactly what they say. Look at me, hockey guy. When's Kachuk coming back? Should be in about a week of time. He's my favorite. I like that guy. Oh, yes.

What a great guy. All right. It's all coming together, boys. That's pretty much the only story people were talking about in sports yesterday. It was a big one. Look, if you go into Salt Lake City and you take out the mammoth. Is that a real team? Yes, it's a real team.

So Utah Mammoth, there's no way. That's fake. You guys are messing with it. Seriously, come on. It's just one. It's just one mammoth. Definitely nothing else going on in sports yesterday. No.

This is the Dan Levator show with the Stucats podcast. Zazlo taketh away and Zaslo giveth because I was about to ask Amin. And I was about to ask Tony and Pablo to give me the nickname of the Utah hockey team. And he took it away from me right at the end of the Shadow Show. But he did give me, and I like this trade, Nippy or Nipley, because I do like that 63 degrees in Miami is Nipley as I freeze off my frozen diamond nipples here, where it's 20 degrees, but also worry about the Cleveland Shepley. Chicago Bears game this weekend where it's going to be negative 20 degrees. That seems like the

most awful way to ever play football. Minus 20 degrees, I would cancel the game. That's unfair to human beings. That is wrong to human beings. Peanut Tellman, who is no coward, said he once played on a Chicago field, ran out on the field and said, I don't want to play today. I'd like to go back into the locker room. Football is not something I'd like to do today. Yes, I mean. Dan, I don't mind them playing in that weather, but I do mind. having to go watch them playing that weather. What about all those people just sitting there freezing their ass off?

At least the football players have adrenaline. They're running around. They're scared. They're excited. They've got all these emotions going on. They have those big Ninja Turtle disguised jackets and the heaters. You can't see the half shell under that jacket. What about the poor person just sitting there and roll

XXX in section 655 freezing their ass off in that nipply weather according to Leslo. Put it on the pool at Levitart show, Nippy or Nipley. But you're right. I mean, the people paying for the privilege to be out in negative 20 degrees when they could be home while the player is being paid to do that does make it different. But Pablo, I was asking Dominique this the other day as we walked down the New York streets. And this is just 25, 30 degrees here

in New York. I'm like, it has to hurt more to play football in this kind. of cold. Would you not imagine that the bones and everything physically by science that all of it hurts more? And he looks at me and he says, once you reach a certain level of pain, that's the amount of pain there is. And in football, the pain is ever present and everywhere. So there's no difference between playing it in negative 20 degrees and playing it in normal weather. But I would think it would be horrific to play football in negative 20 degrees. I've learned that I should not try to relate to football players. They have opted in to a sport premise on consensual concussions, Dan.

The idea that Dominique was walking around, like, with cut off sleeves, he wasn't wearing a jacket, he was wearing like a vest over a hoodie. Yeah, I find it hard to trump Dominique on the question of you guys are weak. The pain threshold is something that I don't understand as we criticize certain football players for being soft. Why is Mike looking like that? Have you ever watched an NFC North broadcast? Everything hurts more in the cold.

And I've Googled this. It's actually backed by science. Your muscles are tighter. Your joints are stiffer. Everything hurts more in the cold. It just means more in the Norse Division. Put it on the poll, please. At Levitard show.

Does everything hurt more in the cold? You guys want to guess, just guess how many teams when you talk about the Panthers, and I will get to Michigan in a second and I will get to Notre Dame because I'm not letting Bavakwa go yet no matter how poorly Michigan behaves. I've got to talk more about the Bavakwa thing. But I'm just going to throw this to the room.

You guys want to guess in the Eastern Conference for the Florida Panthers, how many teams are under 500 when you talk about where it is the Panthers are in the standings? Does anyone in there want to guess under 500 teams in the conference? Because I honestly didn't think

that what I'm about to say was actually possible in any reasonable way. Yes is? Yeah, we follow the sport a little bit down here. We're tidal town and hard press if I'm one. I know Buffalo is pretty bad, but it's really hard. Columbus is probably under 500, right? It's really hard to make the playoffs in that sport. Everyone appears to be pretty solid and nothing is given in the NHL.

How many teams? This is crazy, though. There's one team, and it's two games under 500. There's one team in the entire conference. only playing teams that win more than they lose in the conference. Oh, but you're talking about, you're not counting the overtime losses. You're just talking about regulation wins and losses, right? Yes.

Okay. Well, all right. Yeah, then just one. Yeah, you're right. Okay, but overtime wins and losses because somebody's got to be an overtime winner or loser, right? I'm just talking about bad teams. Like the idea you're saying Buffalo is pretty bad and okay, but they, you know,

that the conference is loaded and the reason that the president, Panthers are struggling is not actually because they're struggling. Their record is fine. They just play in a sport and in a conference where that record's not fine enough to get into the playoff. And then you got what's happening. I'm sorry, go ahead, Zaslo. Yeah, it's a sport where if you get off to a slow start, which the Panthers have, it's really difficult to gain ground because of these overtime losses, because of the three-point games. So like they find themselves in a spot where they have to dig out of a hole and it's hard. We've said for several years. This is a sport that, unlike some of the other majors, can certainly afford to expand

because there are so many good teams in this sport. There are very few embarrassments in that sport. It's not at all like the NBA. Teams don't tank. Everyone is in the mix for the playoffs, it would appear. Tony, you gave away your hand when it is, you said, wait a minute, that's not a real team. The Utah Mammoth is not a real team. So you're a vote for you would not have gotten correct, the nickname of the Utah Mammoth. I mean, would you be honest here? Would you have known that the Utah team was known by the singular mammoth? Yes. All right.

Penalize him for lying, please. Get him out of the room because he's suspicious and somebody hit him with a penalty for lying. What do you look? You're clearly lying. You did not know that the Utah team was the mammoth. Wait, so hold on. So you're just basically saying, I'm going to ask you a question, and I already didn't think I know the answer.

And if the answer doesn't job, then clearly you're lying. You sound like. Well, you look suspicious. No, but there's circumstantial evidence is that you looked all around the room and you looked really suspicious when you said that. Minor penalty, two minutes. Tremenda, Cagason. Ask me again.

Play on. Ask me again, and I'll answer again. And let's see if I can do it less suspicious, I guess. I mean, did you know that the name of the hockey team in Utah was the singular mammoth? Yes. I don't think it's a singular mammoth. I think that's a plural of mammoth. Put it on the poll at Levitard show is the plural of mammoth.

I would have thought the plural's Mammai. But they've only been to Mammoth for 32 games, so I guess I'm going to get a refree. Yeah, we would have accepted Utah Hockey Club. I'm luckily, you make a ruling here? Get out of the room, I mean, is the plural of, respect the penalties, please, is the plural of mammoth, mammoth. Like deer, the plural of Mammoth is Mammoth. Jeremy, do you have an official ruling from the internet? Yeah, according to the club, it's.

itself. Mammoths is the plural. But the reason that they've used Mammoth is to show one Utah, one hockey club, one mammoth. Oh, for crying out loud. I'm going to go with Pablo on this one. What is Utah? I regret weighing in on this debate. Did you know that the nickname of the Utah hockey team was the mammoth? Yes or no? Absolutely not. Okay. I did not either. That is why I am asking the question, but I felt alone and insecure now that I have the company of other incompetence, I feel better falling into my misery and ignorance. Getting back to, and we will get to the Michigan story, as much of it as we can to, because I do think we need to be responsible about some of the details here, but it is fairly shocking to see a 39-year-old coach and a dream job fired and fired, according to the

university, sending out a statement for an inappropriate relationship with a staffer, and then hours later, he's in custody. and I'm assuming he's still in custody, and this has to be a special kind of misery to see everything fall apart for you. And again, there are other victims here other than Sharon Moore, allegedly, but there is a guy in prison who just had his dream job or just threw away his dream job and allowed Michigan to get out from under that contract. Before I do that, because I want to better understand what has happened this week to Notre Dame, would you guys, agree, would there be any disagreement from Miami at all with the statement I'm about to make, which is, if what just happened to Notre Dame happened to the college team of anyone listening to this program, they would be as angry as Bavakwa is. If the same exact thing had happened

where for a month as a made for television spectacle, you're in the playoff by ranking, you do nothing to lose that ranking by losing a football game. You'd do nothing but win your games the rest of the way. The hypothetical team of every single person listening to this show, everybody would be as mad as Bavakwa is, correct? Without a single dissension, every, that you'd get total consensus on that when you get no consensus on anything in sports. Yes, Jeremy. I mean, it has happened to me. My team won every single game and didn't get included in the ESPN CFP Invitational, and that was a result of never being included. There is a difference between what Notre Dame got, which is the T's.

But my team, for two straight seasons, by the way, won every single game and never sniffed. But Mike, I know, has a take on it. Yeah, it was driven crazy by the mere specter of being screwed with head-to-head not mattering. I think the difference is, though, like, Pete Pavakwa has been very effective in changing the narrative. It's not because of mean tweets or re-airs that they're left out. And he is convinced a nation and that fan base that wanted a pound of flesh that that is indeed the case. The reason that they are out is because of Greg Sanky's shadowy hand over the process.

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We've been terrified at this team. forever. And I think there's a different energy where the Panthers, they want the lightning. Stugats. I want T-shirts made for this Panther run. What could be this Panther run? Our Panther group chat, we're not afraid of the lightning. That's a tagline for World RR3. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. Jeremy, it didn't happen to you because part of this betrayal is the duping. You never thought Central Florida was going to be in the playoffs based on where it is

that it was ranked by a committee for a month in a made-for-television spectacle. That's right. But then the next season, when we went into the season and they said, well, surely that won't happen again. Sure. If you go undefeated a second straight year, maybe we'll include you. And then we did just that. So the first time around, we had to claim a national championship.

And the second time, we were like, well, you know, screw you guys. I guess we'll go lose by a touchdown to Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, and Justin Jefferson with our backup quarterback. I could argue that what happened to Jeremy's central Florida team is worse. But this did not happen, okay? Where you're watching for a month, your school win nine games,

you're watching a made-for-television special for a month in which you're always in the play. and then you watch over the month, a month of arguing of, hey, if Miami beat Notre Dame, shouldn't Miami be ahead of Notre Dame? And then you look up one day when you're watching the selection committee make its selection and you're no longer in it. We're in agreement that there's not anybody out there who would say they weren't mad if that happened to their team. So my question after that is, and I asked this yesterday and I didn't get a satisfactory answer, How could Bavakwa have handled this better?

Somebody tell me what is the correct way to advocate on behalf of your constituency when it feels this wrong and your job is to advocate on behalf of this constituency? Look, this is politics, and I say that very simply because the question of what should PVA be doing is not how do you appeal to the largest possible audience of fans in America? It's how does he represent the people he has to be worried about, which are Notre Dame fans. I don't know how you do this well. I think the entire thing is a contest of who do you like less and you will root against that entity. And Notre Dame is clearly the most unliked. And so people of Aqued, Dan, I just think he was doing exactly what he's incentivized to do. I think he has done it well, though.

If I just take out the, you know, the petty complaining about the ACs, If I just take that part out, I think his language is the right language to use on behalf of your fan base. Farse, you know, punched in the stomach. Mike, you tell me if Miami's athletic director had to get out in front of the public, when everybody hates Miami the way that they hate Notre Dame and they would enjoy the tears of somebody whimpering in public. What is the language you would want used? Well, Dan Radikovic did put out a letter, which I was. happy to see. Honestly, while everything was happening, personally, truly, I wish Dan Radicovic

did more. I think Pete Babakwa has done well to make his fan base happy as they are angry after the fact. But I think he got caught with his pants down here a little bit, Dan, because you should have seen this coming. You should have been campaigning. You should have been working the narrative. You have so many media partners. You have this huge platform with Notre Dame. You should have been getting the message out there. Alabama, we're better than them. Oklahoma, we're better than them. The debate should have been firmly from the Notre Dame side, Alabama versus Notre Dame headed into that SEC championship game, and then everybody would have been viewing that SEC championship game in which Alabama had negative three rushing yards through the

prism of Alabama versus Notre Dame. Their whole plan was just, this is why they're upset about the tweets and the re-hears, was hoping they could get away with head-to-head not mattering and being upset that people are calling it into public lights as. Well, is all of the their fan base happy with the way Bavacqua is handling this whole thing because you would assume, just from the outside looking in, you would assume that everyone would understand an unbiased fan he would understand why Notre Dame is unhappy. Yet somehow Notre Dame who seemingly got screwed, everyone is dunking on them now and everyone seemingly hates them even more than we thought that they did based on the things that Bavakwa is talking about.

It's like, is he actually doing a good job? This is the part that's weird to me, Zaz. This is, I, I, if you believe in the idea of confirmation bias, okay, all that anyone is waiting for is anyone from Notre Dame to say anything so that they can simply reverse the entirety of their opinion and be like, oh, they were wrong goes to, no, they're wrong for complaining about being wrong. Like, I have not seen, I'm not kidding you when I say I just haven't seen a lot of things like this happen, where I'm on the front end and I am seeing that Notre Dame is wronged. Their athletic director comes out and does what you have to do, which is complain that you've been wronged. And as soon as he does that, everyone says, no, you're wrong for complaining about being wrong, even though about being wronged, even though we too would be complaining about being wrong. Any single person who's a fan who has complained about the officiating after a game. If you've complained about the officiating after any game that you've lost, this is something.

This right here, what just happened, you think you have a team that's good enough to win the national championship, and you're being denied the right to play for that game. It's just not something I've seen a whole lot of, and I believe it's just because people were looking for an excuse to dunk on Notre Dame. They do it to Miami, and I think maybe Alabama, and I think those are. the three programs. I don't think this happens to Ohio State. I don't think it happens to Michigan. I think there's plenty of hate, but I don't think the nation at large laughs at someone being wrong this way unless it's only three schools. Is there a fourth? Do you guys have a fourth school that you would say that you can imagine a scenario where this happens, where someone who is

articulating something and is right in articulating it is just wrong because of who he is and what he represents. And now this person, we only know his name because of this. Zazlo is sitting here enjoying this joyride, this amusement park of Bavakwa, only to make fun of him. So this person exists and is defined by he's a whimpering coward. The contrast, though, and the reason why I respect Bavakwa is because this has been a college football month in which Lane Kiffin leaves for LSU because he doesn't care about the playoff, right? Like he's like, actually, there's a bigger game here. The sport is about something bigger, actually, than the wins on the field. And Bavakwa is acting as every, to your point, as I think every college football fan would want their program to act, which is to be, again, I get it, truly insufferable in defense of their honor.

Like, you have to pick a fight. You can't be trampled on. Like, that's the whole thing. That's the whole thing. The playoff matters that much. The writing of a letter, he can't stay quiet, right? That's not one of the choices. your choices are fairly absolute here your choice is to make a loud complaint it's not simply to send out a statement that has some grace in it right that wins him nothing with his constituency saying oh it's okay like the pulling of the bold game the taking your ball and going home i suppose that's something that didn't have to be done if you don't want people to react poorly to you but i just don't think you can do this quietly if you're him i think do you think bavoc was

sitting here thinking he made any mistakes here do you guys believe as you see what's happening here do you think bavakwa goes home to his family and says i aired here the question is persuadable voters noturday doesn't have a lot of those there are not a lot of people who are like you know what i was on the fence about notre dame but bavacua's elegance and dignity in defending their college football position that changed my mind no there is there's nothing you could have done as far as i can tell that would have resulted in anything different other than being as, again, and I get it, being as loud and indignant as possible about someone questioning whether they deserved this. I think he could have been proactive instead of reactionary. I do think that stuff matters. Ultimately, you're talking about 13 human beings that are under pressure, listening to every criticism. And I think when it came to Miami versus Notre Dame and the head-to-head thing, the volume on that stuff matter to me.

You guys aren't asking the right questions right now. The right question was. asked in the chat actually shout out to the YouTube chat is this Pablo's first time wearing a hoodie because he's got his draw the drawstrings tied up like it is when it first ships to you no one ever has their drawstrings like that take a one shot a guy his drawstrings look at that who does that he's a gift he's a gift to journalism he has wrapped himself in a bow and a fraud and this is this is a also advertised and woke they were with a method man on Pablo Tori finds out.

Whoa. And? Wait a minute. Oh, so he was clearly just given this. So it is a brand new hoodie. No, it isn't. Mike? Yep.

Mike. Yes, we were at. Where did I get this? Where did I get this? It was April 20th. I can remember that much. And it was at a Rizza concert and it was pre-COVID. Jeremy, why are you comfortable calling Pablo a fraud?

And he was so involved in his self-involvement that he didn't even hear the accusation of you calling him. I'm fighting lots of different wars right now, Dan. Jordan Hudson's threatening to sue me. Nick Wright is litigating his own reporting with me as I continue to litigate it with him on Twitter as we speak. Phil McKelson threatened to send us a legal letter. Steve Balmer, obviously, is somebody who is actively trying to make sure that the NBA's investigation is not proceeding, in my view, into my work with the level of rigor that it deserves. You know, the Chinese government, we investigated. The House Oversight Committee is investigating, frankly, a company that was started to steal the brainwaves from athletes.

The NBA has another investigation into the gambling stuff. Relate to Malik Beasley that we're responsible for. Roy, isolate that hiccup of sound so that we can embarrass Pablo with it and how professional communicators stumbled through all of that. But Jeremy, answer my accusation. Why are you calling him publicly a fraud and he's fighting so many wars that he doesn't even hear the accusation? Because he's clearly never worn that hoodie before. You've never worn that hoodie if you're now tying it.

And if you are, what a crazy decision to tie that ribbon up. Mike Ryan again to the witness stand. That hoodie is at least seven years old. That's not the question. That's not the question. He's worn it before. You can see him buy it. I saw him purchase the hoodie.

Did you see him and wear the hoodie on a separate occasion outside of that first time that he wore it? And were the drawstrings still tied when he wore. Why do you not believe us? Why are you not answering the question? I feel like you're avoiding the question. I'm not answering the question because you're not allowing me the opportunity to. This is not a pulpit, sir. You're going to answer the question and only the question.

I have seen him out a handful of times since he purchased the hoodie and been like, hey, that's a hoodie. We bought at that 420 thing. And where the dressings tried. That's a new development. Okay. Don Lebertard. Pablo leads all of podcasting in reading while smiling. If you listen to ESPN Daily, he sounds like he's having.

The time of his life. Stugats. Coming up next, I'm going to tell you the Savannah bananas are changing face. How do you know I'm... How do you know I'm smiling? That's how I find my vocal range.

Sometimes I just say, Savannah bananas. Savannah bananas. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. I am honestly surprised by the restraint that Pablo just showed in talking about some of this. He's a star bleeper and a name dropper, but he left out what I thought was the most interesting detail that links both the Method Man episode that he's talking about on Pablo Tori finds out and that hoodie. And I'm just surprised he didn't share it.

Just before I share it, is it because you don't want to spoil the end of the episode? because I really thought you'd brag about what Method Man did for you toward the end of that podcast interview because I couldn't believe that I got to sit in the middle of that. And I think Mike Ryan, at least, I know, I think Mike Ryan would be jealous of what Method Man did for us. But Pablo, what are you willing to reveal here? I am processing a lesson from yesterday's show

in which it turned out that me being the guy who finds out stuff, if I talk about it too much, becomes really unlikable. And so I'm hoping that other people talk about the stuff that I found out for me because, again, many different fronts, many different wars. But did I get to listen to the secret Wu-Ten?

Yeah, I knew it. I knew it. I was selling people back here. It's like, it has to be the Scarelli vinyl. He's got access to the Scorelli vinyl. What's it good? We're in Screlly mode. So if you don't know who Scorelli is,

He's the most hated of the pharma bros who jacked up and gouged people with medical prices on medicine because he had access to it and no one else did. And then with that, he spent how many millions of dollars to buy the single copy of this Wu-Tang album that no one has heard? Multiple millions, I believe it's around $2 million. Okay. And yeah, it is. It's one of the craziest things that's ever happened. And Method Man's perspective as a guy, again, and Method Man, Dan and Method Man, just to be clear, are disturbingly intimate friends.

And one of the things that I think that you guys in the shipping container and the Wu-Tink clan have in common is that there are a zillion of you. And how to manage the artistic integrity of everyone is hard. And so Method Man was asked, apparently, will you submit a couple of tracks? Just like wrap over these beats without knowing anything about the project, submitted it to Riza. And he learned later that this was all in the service of a. Wu-Tang double album one of one that got auctioned off for multiple millions of dollars and was bought by a guy sentenced to, I believe, various fraud charges successfully by the U.S.

government years later, and then realized, oh, I might have done this differently, and yet he does have the tracks on his phone. What is happening with the war you are presently fighting with Nick Wright that has made you realize that you came off as unlikable yesterday? I don't know. The thing that I'm struggling with is I love argument, debate, sports television. I've worked at ESPN for 13 years, PTI, Tony and Mike. Both are the foremost examples of people who left journalism who do that stuff.

And so I want to be very respectful when I say that I think journalism in sports is basically going extinct. I worked at two places, Dan, that are now either dead or zon. Bombified. Sports Illustrated and ESPN the magazine. Real sports at HBO is dead. HBO sports fundamentally is basically dead. And the reason why is because truth is a bad business. Because it is a lot more fun and a lot easier, despite how good, by the way, how genuinely awesome Nick is at arguing about sports. And he is. And Tony and Mike are the greatest, in my opinion. And Stephen A and Skip Bayless. And that's that tree we all know. The thing that I struggle with is how to explain to people why journalism is both good business and also a lot harder than you think, such that the people who chose to do the easier thing can't simply say, oh, I could do that if I wanted to.

Because it's not merely that you're not. It's that maybe you should, just from a perspective of like, what do we need more of? Well, when you say, though, unlikable, and I throw this. to the group here because I have found that over the course of the last 20 years of changing how it is that I behave within the construct of this while also obviously respecting not just sports journalism but journalism. It is a losing fight optically on whether or not you're going to be likable, not unlike what's happening with Notre Dame. If the starting point is I'm putting in front of the American people, the job title of journalist, the starting point

of that conversation is I don't like that person. I don't like what that person does. I don't value what it is that journalism is. I don't technically understand or care about what journalism is the way that people are practicing it is. So if I went around the country right now and I just said to somebody, most unpopular professions, I think I'm getting journalist with lawyer and used car salesman and whatever is the distrusted form of I don't like, I don't like, I don't know anything about that person and I don't like them already because what they do for a living is journalism that's not because I grew up in a bubble of journalists growing up I never realized this until legitimately I didn't realize how bad it was until a moron wins the presidency running on a

platform of those guys are phony I mean my basic take here is that there's never been a bigger gap between what rich and powerful people want you to know and what they actually are doing and in sports that's especially true like there's a huge everybody knows this and by the way i get it it's it is risky and i reference tongue-in-cheekly all of the lawsuits that are threatened against my show and i can tell you dan that uh god bless our single lawyer because there is a real actual cost potentially to that it's not worth it i know paolo i know the cost but i don't but you know that because this show is one of the things you chose to fund and you no one else is doing that and so the question of like why did i why did this bit in which i

i apparently hate nick even though i actually don't and i really respect him but then he says things that actually make me just like my back sit up straight it's because there's an insult to injury dynamic of like the choice of i'm not going to do journalism has been made by everybody but a small handful of people because it is hard and expensive and it's hard to make a business and my whole point by the way the reason why method man is on my show and why i do like taste testing athlete weed and why i interviewed a witch and why we do things that are absurd is because i want to show like journalism is also also font like i love it i love it in a way that i don't think i did five years ago but now i just realize how how much riskier and harder it is to do this

in a way that by the way is beyond my capacity i'm not the best journalist out there Read Julie K. Brown to the Miami Herald who, like, actually stopped Jeffrey Epstein. Read Don Vanetta at ESPN, formerly of the New York Times. Read all of these people. And so the reason my back is up about this is just because I, it's not about Nick. It's about the dismissiveness that people have around, oh, if we wanted to, we could. And I'm like, I wish you would do that. And I also don't think you can.

Dan, I have a theory I'd like to float by you. I was thinking about Pablo. Why is Pablo so hated? And then I thought about Nick and people hate Nick Wright too. And then I thought about you. I'm like, people hate you too. And I thought about Stephen A. I thought about all the other voices in the media that people hate.

And I realized that one common denominator. You guys all have annoying voices. Wow. Everyone, all, like, Pablo's is tinny. Exactly. Dance is whiny. Stephen A is two boisterous. Harder did I with that club.

Is there someone out there in the media who has... Look, Ernie Johnson. Everyone loves Ernie Johnson. Why? His voice is normal. No one thinks of it as annoying. But all the rest of you guys have really, really annoying voices. That's why people love me.

Skip has an annoying voice. Zaz has an annoying voice. Jeremy. My voice is fine. I mean, thank you. There you go. No one hates Roy. No one hates Roy.

No one hates Roy. You, fuck off, man. Play that sound, please. play that sound again of Pablo stumbling his way through communication as a professional Harvard debater? That's what my brain is like lately, by the way. That doesn't have any editing in it. That is clean, and that is exactly how it came out of his face.

I sometimes don't realize that I'm accidentally scatting. I mean, the bit bop sounded like it was almost musical. I'm going to object to what it is that, I mean, is saying because I think annoying is second on the list of why it is all of those people, including myself, are hated. The next step on it is self-righteous, though. What Pablo is articulating here in his annoying voice, what he's articulating is the frustration of caring about something that other people don't care about, caring deeply about something that other people don't care about. And then the next step is on it, he's offended by the fact that not only do they not care about it. They think they understand what it takes to do it. And they don't. And because they don't, they don't care about it. But then here's the part. Like Dan Patrick, I would say, if you really listen to him, kind of self-righteous too. Especially when he talks about his exploits as a basketball player when he was young or whatever. But Dan Patrick, not an

annoying voice. Everyone loves his voice. Rich Eisen, a little self-righteous too. especially when he's got his Hollywood friends in the studio. Rich Eisen, not an annoying voice. You guys have annoying voices. If you had better voices, people will be more willing to tolerate your self-righteousness. Thank you for bringing that up because I don't think that Dan Patrick gives off a lot of self-righteous. He's not much of a strident opinion maker. Okay, apparently Amin does.

But I'm going to share something that's uncomfortable to share because I've made plans with Dan Patrick while he's in town here, and what he does because he knows the power of that voice and he also knows how annoying my voice is, what he does purposely. And no other man in my life does this. No other man in my life is allowed to do this. When he's on speakerphone, what you get in the most syrupy of sounds is, hello, Valerie. And he does it on purpose. and it's offensive. Like, he absolutely knows his voice is better than mine, and so he comes off as I'm the better Dan,

and he gets a little close to my wife with that voice, and I don't like it. And I've told him I don't like it, and he keeps doing it. It is disrespectful, but it's done in such a good voice that I have to abide the disrespect. I can't do anything about it, because all I do is sound like Bavakwa in an annoying voice when I complain about it.

And it makes me less likable to my wife that I'm like, Dan, that's like, stop. And he's just like, he just keeps doing it. It's like, hello, Valerie. And he's just got a better voice than me. And it, I feel small. You'd be hosting jeopardy. You'd be hosting jeopardy if your voice wasn't like it is right now. Look at them laughing at me.

I feel like Andrew Schultz's co-host here who's being dragged by the internet the way. Hey, we're not going to do that, hey, we're not going to do that to our gosh, man. We're not. No. The internet's not going to do that. The internet can do whatever, but we're not going to do that here. I'm putting my foot down. I just made the comparison.

I just made the comparison. I see Jeremy's face. Do you know how a... Mike Yostrebsky has signed a two-year contract with the Atlanta Braves. He works hard. It's a good player. He's a great kid. He's a hard worker.

What? No, that is not... That is not nepotism. That's not grandpa nesate. that Yostrimpsky is signed to a two-year deal by the Braves because his name is Yistremski. That's not what's happening there. I have to get to the Cyclones because you guys have a giant match on Friday. It's tomorrow.

There's going to be a lot of people there, right? You guys are going to get, we need everybody's support on this. We need Greg Cody to bring out a crowd. Mike, what are you guys doing on Friday? It's a normal time. It's open to the public. You got into the final. you got into the final

in a matinee game that was closed to the public. How are we going to get people out there for you tomorrow? I need your support. This one is very much open to the public. It is free to attend. It's going to be a great time at the Magic City Casino, the front on there. It's

cyclones. It's devils. Amazing drinks. A great crowd. We are bringing the clone cartel out in full force. It is going to be a circus. We have a lot of tricks up our You're gonna want to be there for this electric environment and hopefully we can bring this home. We can raise another banner. We can win our second championship. We are favored to do so. Go Clones!