The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Bad Arm Week

Episode Date: November 18, 2024

Today's Cast: Dan, Stugotz, Greg Cote, Chris, Billy, Mike, Jessica. Greg is here on a Monday and he is having a bad arm week. That's not stoping him from celebrating after the Miami Dolphins scored a big 34-19 win over the Las Vegas Raiders which Greg says he predicted exactly even though he did not. The gang breaks down how the Dolphins offense has evolved and the ways in which they are finding success despite lacking the big plays from Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Waddle. Plus, the Pittsburgh Steelers and Baltimore Ravens played a very typical Steelers-Ravens game and Jess loved it. Jess also loved the New York Jets losing at the end to Anthony Richardson and the Indianapolis Colts, and goes on a victory lap with Mike to celebrate. Plus, Josh Allen willed the Buffalo Bills to victory over the Kansas City Chiefs, Dan for some reason has a baby in a crib in the middle of an NFL fumble scrum, babies are stupid and Greg misses certificates. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Oh, interrupting their playlist to talk about defying gravity, are we? That's right, Newton. With the Bronco and Bronco Sport, gravity has met its match. Huh, maybe that apple hit me a little harder than I thought. Yeah, you should get that checked out. With standard 4x four capability, Broncos keep going up and up. Now get purchase financing from 0% APR for up to 60 months on eligible 2024 Bronco family models. Visit your Toronto area Ford store or ford.ca. Shadow show. Shadow Show. Shadow Show. Shadow Show. Shadow Show. Shadow Show. Greg, I'm delighted by this new development of you being in here more days than one, and

I wanted to talk to you because they were complaining about the Shadow Show the other day, not knowing what it was. Why would anybody complain? Like, they don't get to see what that sound is actually being made by right now? Right, no, but it's because I'm coming in and the idea is we don't know we're on the air so I'm getting lint brushed right now, as I do 10 minutes before we start, because this is meant to be something

that we don't know we're on the air, we're just trickling in, we're just coming into work and we're talking to just our YouTube friends before we've started we're not presently prepared to do the show we're just sitting around talking and so I was delighted when I saw Greg today is that suede I don't know it's not cold enough for suede I am in the portion of my year where my wife starts buying anniversary and Christmas gifts and Happy anniversary, so my wardrobe gets

Improved five years Wow Not a lot of people were in suede anymore especially down so bring it back There there are some things in our life that we just we figured it out in like the 90s And we haven't needed to improve it the lint roller I mean, I'm sure when did to improve it, the lint roller. I mean, I'm sure, when did we come up with the lint roller as it is now? There's no improvements, there's no technological advances.

It's just a lint roller and it still crushes like it did in the 90s. Plus there's not a speck of lint on that Nehru jacket. Well, that's the thing. One of the things that's happening right here, thank you. One of the things that's happening right here is because the jacket is so freshly out of the case, it doesn't have a dollop of lint on it.

Everything in my house has cat hair on it. Everything in my house. I can relate. I can't leave my house without cat hair being on something. But this has never been worn before because I just got it for my anniversary. Mike, you're the only one around here that does those things up in the most romantic fashion, right?

Like I haven't heard people around here get like really, you know, symbolically romantically attached to anniversaries. I don't think I'm near your level, pal. No, I think that you take the cake on that one and that's not, I'm not saying that to shade yet. You just, you make everybody else look bad by comparison you've got a very public wonderful love story Wow like what have you done for your fifth anniversary what does he know that I've done I'm confused by what it is dude you're emotional on a Monday after a Dolphins game like you, you'll find platitudes in those things. I mean, a five year anniversary,

I can't even imagine the letter you wrote for Valerie. God. It wasn't letters, it was a scavenger hunt. Platitudes? Scavenger hunts. Scavenger hunts. Yeah, I've never done a scavenger hunt, ever. Platitudes?

Was it naughty? A naughty scavenger. Yeah, what was at the end of it? Yeah, baby. Down on the pool table. Attitudes was it naughty a naughty a naughty scavenger It was not a naughty scavenger on you think like thinking of you Five-year anniversary gift is wood. Yeah, what's under that? Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! It's not Uncle Dick. Come on, man.

Is it really wood? Is it? Yeah. That's hilarious. That's great. Jessica is beaming again because her Steelers are winning in maximum Steeler ways to be able to strangle the Ravens.

How much press conference did you soak in last night? I snorted the whole thing in one shot. How excited were you to see six field goals defeat the Ravens? Man, this one's funny. Beating the Ravens eight out of nine times and all of a sudden Justin Tucker shows you, oh, the margin for

winning is if when your kicker is the greatest you you know have two losses a season and when he's bottom of the league you have four nobody understands how you have four losses. They had no idea how good they had it. None, no, no, no Ravens fan that I knew. Yeah he's a he's the greatest of all time but he was such a game changer. Late game situations changes the entire dynamic when you realize, oh, I only need 25 yards here on this drive. It was such an unprecedented weapon, and now that he's kind of mid-tier, he's no longer the most accurate kicker in NFL history. Oh no, it's not mid-tier. He's now bottom of the league. Like, missing two yesterday

Oh no, it's not mid-tier. He's now bottom of the league. Missing two yesterday makes him one of the worst kickers in the league, and the margin for error there is such that the Jets were using their fourth kicker in four weeks. If you're not above 80%, they'll run you out. And he right now is in the low 70s. I'm confused as to what's happening with the kicking game. Because there was a time that, I would have told you

a couple years ago, the two greatest kickers that I'd ever seen in my entire life were Justin Tucker and Evan McPherson and they can't buy a meaningful make right now. I will tell you that watching Tucker and seeing the Ravens have four losses when I'm like no that's one of the best teams in the league like I know that's one of the best teams in the league I don't think that they should have four losses and it made me appreciate in retrospect Vinatieri and how different it would have

or could have all been for the Patriots if they too hadn't had one of those machines that like changed. If the games are being decided by three points, five points and you're surprised, you know, that once every two months, what happens to the Jags happens in that sport. Like usually the games are pretty close.

I don't know how we slept for so long on the idea that they had a field goal kicker that sort of tilted everything toward them being 15 and two, or you know, 13 and four, as opposed to, they've already got four losses, and you're like, well in all of the victories, all of the games are close, and they could have won all of them and they would have won yesterdays

if their field goal kicker makes a couple of kicks. I think that fans of division rivals of the Ravens are keenly aware from watching those games and knowing it's like sending Steph Curry to the free throw line. When you have Lamar Jackson who can escape almost all sorts of pressure and you have a guy that routinely would make 58 yard field goals.

It was a crazy weapon that they had almost all sorts of pressure and you have a guy that routinely would make 58 yard field goals. It was a crazy weapon that they had and the NFL in that conference especially, but it seems really wide open. When you're trying to evaluate if the Ravens can come out of that conference, this whole new world of Justin Tucker where now the most accurate kicker in NFL history is Eddie Pinheiro and not Justin Tucker, it's a whole new world to them. So Chris, what's happening here is that I want, you see on Monday we come in and you gotta get some

of the air out of the tires. Everybody's got a lot. We haven't been on for a couple of days. We just saw Mike Tyson's ass. Like everyone's Revin and now Greg Cody's here. Like Stu Gotts and Billy are about to bomb in. They do the God bless football, they're first to market. They get out here and they do it as fast as they can

to get God bless football in their takes and they're gonna thunder in here in a second. But this show is supposed to be us just trickling into work, not a Raven Steelers conversation suddenly breaking out because that's not how we talk when we're just trickling into work. Well, let's just redo this conversation after the show starts then,

because I can definitely do that I can talk about this all day Dan, but I don't want to redo it. I want to do it better I want to this is the show started as far as I'm concerned like here Billy's coming in now Mike's got to move seats Greg Cody is in on a Monday. When did this change because Monday usually we don't need very much help Yes, we're just galloping along because football Mondays, it gets crowded in here, even if it's just three of us. Yeah, I got a text from your executive committee. I think it was Sunday, saying, hey,

can you do Monday and Tuesday? And normally, I'm accustomed to Tuesday only. This Monday, I could do because I'm going straight from the studio to a Marlins press conference at 3 PM.m. So the timing of it worked out great. Happy to be here. So we were on your way to work. You wear a nicer shirt for a Marlins press conference than you do for your appearances here.

Well, I'm having a bad arm week, you know. I am. I'm having a bad arm week. I don't even want to show you the evidence of it, but just trust me on it. Bruises? Well, bruises implies my wife is beating me again. No, they're not bruises. They're just like old age watches. Yeah, when does that happen? It's starting to happen to my dad, too,

where he's avoiding my dog at all costs because, you know. Jumping Charlie caused this. Jumping Charlie jumped on me, and he touched his giant claw, like a pterodactyl claw on my arm Okay, wait a minute. So you so you broke you bruise easily is what it is What we're talking about is you are coming in here scarred and marred by your dog. Yeah, I bruise I also hurt easily Dan. I hurt easily and I bruise easily, you know I'm full of emotion the older I get I'm full of emotion for the good and the bad and

And I'm having a bad arm week. so I look more dressed up than I am. Well you're just wearing a long sleeve shirt which isn't normally what you do around here you look nicer for your Marlins press conference than you already sweating then you ever look when you come in here dressed you know thank you well am I wrong? No no I used to wear t-shirts in here and now I'm getting all dressed up You're wearing a suede Nehru jacket. I feel the pressure to dress up a little bit, you know, it's not just the press conference It's the bad arm week and from now on you're gonna see me. I'm gonna start wearing suits Tuxedos top hats, you know, it's gonna be a new me This is the Dan LeBattor show with the StuGuts podcast

Today's episode is sponsored by DraftKings stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show DraftKings the crown is yours. StuGuts I'm in the awkward position here of I kind of want to mutiny against my own company Because of some of the things that are Befalling us. I'm in okay So you ride with me no matter what mutiny against the company because I come in here today And I'm like can you guys get me that photo of Mike Tyson's ass and then a conversation breaks out and a meeting breaks out And everybody's talking about well, you know, we got Sponsors and we're in a contract

year and it's not worth it to put an old man's ass on the screen. You're just making the same joke everybody else is making. But that's not the reason that I'm mutiny is where I'm headed against the company. Okay. The place that I have to side with Cody is our COO has written me an email in which he says look at how Cody invoices the company and Cody invoices the company by just sending an email saying an email you owe me this. Works for me. Yes. And so our COO is like no we've got a computerized system. We've got a system of expenses.

You've got to invoice somebody technologically correctly. It's not just sending someone an email. What they have is a system that prevents employees from entering an invoice. It makes it more difficult. And so I have to side on the laziness and the technological ineptness of my two friends here and be like, you know what?

I don't want to live in a time where I can't just fire off an email and that passes for an invoice. That's how America should be. Stop with your crypto coins, stop with your bookkeeping, stop with your DocuSigns, just allow me to send you an email saying this is what you owe me. And then send me my money because that's written proof that I have in my voice sent you a note

that you owe me money and I'm with Cody on this. I mean, I specifically said on the email, this is an invoice. I wrote those, typed those words and then I said... That was nice of you. Yeah, you owe me such and such for this date to this date, the last three quarters, blah, blah, blah. This will, I might have even said, this will serve as an official invoice.

I might have said that to make it, no doubt about it. To make it official. Yeah, and what he can do is he can copy and paste that and put it wherever it needs to be put. Yeah, on a refrigerator. I'm sure that's how we're doing it these days. Copy and paste it and put it wherever it needs to be put. Right, thank you. that's how we're doing it these days. Copy and paste it and put it wherever it needs to be put. I will get to the football of the weekend in a moment,

but Jessica, you invoice the company and it's all computerized, right? You are not hurting the way that Cody is when he's sending an email and not getting his money on time. What do you mean by computerized? Clear that one up for me. Yeah.

I'm saying that you get on, you log on JustWorks, and you send through expenses how it is that you arrive at getting reimbursed for stuff. I think it's RIM. That one's a RIM. Yeah, that's a RIM. Yeah, JustWorks is like our HR platform, and I'm a W2 employee here so I don't have to

invoice MetalArk but Greg is not. I think he's probably 1099. So he would have to send an invoice probably to the accounting email address which I almost just said out loud but I decided to censor. 1099 is age. I'm working my way up to 1100. What do I have to do to get a promotion to 1100? The year he was born. He's old. Age humor.

Bad arm week. Well, I mean, that's the truth. You don't want to see these limbs. Can we see it? Do you mind explaining to us? Hold on, let's go through this. Hold on. So in the Shadow Show we were talking about

Greg Cody looking nicer today, more dressed up because he's going to a Marlins game here, and I'm sorry, Marlins press conference in a little bit. What's the name of their new manager? Cowboy. You could ask him forever. Play? I would never know that. Damn it, hang on, hang on, just saying.

I saw Skip went to the Rangers, right? Is that a man? Clayton McCullough. Ah, Clayton. I haven't been this embarrassed since I missed up Diana Rossini's name. In fairness, he hasn't been introduced yet, so. Thank you.

So I haven't been introduced to him while I know his name. Clayton McCullough. When you Google Marlin's manager, it says Skip Schumacher still yeah Introduced yet. Yeah trust the internet Introduce yourself. I mean I will Talking about him. I will not do any better on

The state of the Marlins Than the longtime legendary sports columnist on the way to the press conference for their manager introduction when asked what's his name looks through a bunch of papers and finally finds the name and it is correct to say well he hasn't been introduced yet I got a lot on my mind you have done this is not about where the manager resides in the culture of baseball right this is specifically about the marlins it's not just that everyone listening to this now understands that a manager is not going to come in and do much of anything for a team in the state of of the marlin right but

this is a reflection out of the industry and of great kody's ignorance it's that everyone knows you whatever get a graze guy to get a dodger guy and see if you guys can figure it out while they lose for ten years and see if they can get all the Astros draft picks. But it's not like that person's not Billy, you know, you're the only one here who knows that person's name. Greg just said it and I just forgot it. Yeah, well he hasn't been introduced yet. He'll be introduced today. It's true. Time will tell. You know, let's be honest, the Marlins don't matter in their own market.

They're the fifth team down here. You know, when Lionel Messi leaves, they might inch up to the fourth if they're lucky. They're a team that can't even guarantee a sellout on opening day. They don't matter right now, and therefore the new manager by extension doesn't matter until he does. So, you know, that's the state of the Marlin. Now that's on me a little bit. I had forgotten the name. Obviously I knew his name, but I wanted to give myself a reminder. His name should be Dodgers guy, right? Yeah, that's right.

Billy, time will tell as an analysis on this. Undefeated. It works in general as a universal life truth. Not particularly helpful in the sports discussion conversation. Time will tell is not the analysis that anyone gives on any hire. You have to have an opinion of some sort

on what that hire is. We all had a lot of Aaron Rodgers' opinions. Now he's got a lower winning percentage than Zach Wilson and Sam Darnold had with the Jets. We had a lot of opinions on Aaron Rodgers and cataclysmic, like never mind not meeting expectations, worse than anyone could have imagined, correct? Yes, I would say so. Based on the expectations and the market.

I don't know, Jim. Two of us back here certainly imagined it. I'm trying to warn you. Oh, victory lap? Yeah! Woo! I think you guys should go do that. Go ahead and do that.

A victory lap? A victory lap on Erin Rodgers. Let's get to it. Both of you go to the room and get a victory lap going. And then platform shoes. And I'm going to platform you. I'm going to platform you. Well, you're de-platforming her at the moment.

No, I'm putting her on a different platform where she can go after Aaron Rodgers who she wants deplatformed. Cardio's not really part of my routine right now. Understood. I'd like to go to the both of you in the other room taking a victory lap. Ask it a lot. We're not outside. A lap around the block.

As we talk about the Dolphins today. Back in the mix. I tried to tell you all, in fact I even had the score correct I think, in my picks I think I picked a pick 31-17. I was right on the mark. I knew they would score points against this defense. Two has been really good. He threw for almost 300 yards and three touchdowns.

And his performance said to Antonio Pierce hey coach Budinsky this is why I'm still playing you'll recall in September was Antonio Pierce who unsolicited broke an unwritten rule by butting into another franchise's business yeah and said if I were to I'd tell him to retire it's not worth it this is why he's playing to kick your ass Antonio Antonio Pierce. All right, Greg, you got the score wrong. 34-19. That's not close enough for you. It is close enough, but nobody would have known that you picked the score if you hadn't bragged that you got it exactly right, and when we looked it up you didn't get it exactly right. You were wrong, and so yes, but you're bringing it up just to

point out that you got it exactly right, and yes, it is close enough, but the idea that you would need to tell us that you got it exactly right. And yes, it is close enough, but the idea that you would need to tell us that you got it exactly right is if that's a skill of yours. As if you think you can do that. You don't possess it. It's a skill of mine because I pay attention to over-unders, which are usually pretty accurate.

The over-under in that one was 43 and a half. Okay, well then I was even more right than I thought I was by predicting the over. Bingo. Yeah, double thank you. Billy, what then I was even more right than I thought I was by predicting the over. Bingo. Double thank you. Billy, what is happening here? I don't know. With Greg Cody.

Greg, you think you have the skill to pick games correctly? You've picked every game for the last 20 years in the newspaper. Every time you pick it correctly, you tell me and it's about four times in the last 20 years. You mean the exacto? I mean that's exacto that's difficult yeah an exacto that's tricky yeah like if a game is 21 17 and I'll pick 21 17 I'm a brag about it but if I pick 2016 I'm a brag about that too you're welcome hmm we have some people around here who are doing well with their picks. Although, Stu, you've

been accused of something here, and I'd like Billy to be able to tell me one way or the other. There is an accusation that has been filed against you by a listener, and I believe the accusation, but I don't know if it's true or not, saying that Stu is stating his record on the year, which is is really good but he's adjusting the line on just about every bet so it's more advantageous to him that's not true first off i'd by have points i'd buy hooks all the time i tell the audience what i'm buying the hulk and that you should buy the hook whether you do it or not is up to you now

i will say that i record those pics usually on Thursday and the games don't, you know, they're not played until Sunday. So if the line changes, the line changes, but I have to get them done by Thursday. Those are the rules. And so right now I'm just telling you, you guys are all doing very well. Yeah. I think I had another four and two week in the NFL. I have 49, 29 and two. That is a good year. Yes it is and Greg Cody's record is very good and Billy's record is very good as well correct Billy because you care about this both of these guys are a little their degrees of

flippant with these picks I would say that Stu puts the least into them I'm saying that Greg puts more into his picks than Stu does into his. No doubt with Billy Billy Billy's not a massive gambler. I like to gamble on all these games. Billy does not want to lose our audience money. Yeah, I feel a lot of pressure to get them right. Which I shouldn't. I'm 29 and 14 on the air.

Okay, but he takes it very seriously. Same way that Juju does, because it hurts him to cost the audience money. He doesn't want the responsibility. He didn't ask for this? Any of this? He didn't want the responsibility of- Well, I created it for myself, so I kinda did,

but I don't like the pressure that comes with it. Also, I will say this, because this is a thing that I get hit with because people get mad at me because they take my three picks and they turn it into a parlay. So I'll do two and one, and they're like, you idiot, you lost. And I'm like, I didn't, two and one, that's a win. You guys, I didn't tell you to make into a parlay. So I'll do two and one and they're like, you idiot, you lost. And I'm like, I didn't, two and one, that's a win.

You guys, I didn't tell you to make it a parlay. These are individual bets. Now if you make it a parlay, obviously it'll increase the odds there. You'll win a lot more money if all three hit. But I've been doing a good job of doing two and one almost every single, I think I have one losing week the entire season.

So like 600 every single week. But like if you parlay it, you'd lose almost every single, I think I have one losing week the entire season. So like 600 every single week, but like if you parlay it, you'd lose almost every single week. I am laughing at the visual of Jessica and Mike in the other room getting ready to take a victory lap on Aaron Rodgers. Hey, they're running backwards. Hey, is this Central Park? I know what this place is.

It's a place that hasn't seen a 300 yard pass or since maybe COVID. Ah, it's kind of weird that the only MAGA adjacent personality to catch an L this month has been Aaron Rodgers routinely. Damn shame you didn't make it to that rally at the UFC card on Saturday, but either way, we told you so, and it's gonna be great

when Rob Salah lifts Lombardi. I thought you fixed it, who would've known? Bringing in Devonte Adams and Rob Salad lives Lombardi. I thought you fixed it. Who would've known? Bringing in Devonte Adams and Rob Salad, it worked. You mean that didn't fix the entire Jets organization? That's crazy. You mean the quarterback that was already kind of old and falling off a cliff with his production

didn't magically get better after tearing his Achilles after four plays last year? I'm running out of breath here. What's so weird is this stuff always typically works out for the Jets. Oh, the dog's not even running. What is Willow doing? Is Willow on skates? He's got a wild dog, Feral.

What? Like Jack Nicholson. It's like Jack Nicholson in Wolf. I don't remember how excited the ingredients to gods were after they traded for Devontae Adams. The Bills are good in that division, huh? See you guys. Okay, good seeing you, Mike.

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Uh-oh, he doesn't want to be bothered anymore. Now it's getting tense because he didn't need that as a result. He needs something that happens. You can see him mother-assing at it. Can we bother you right now? Turn on your microphone, Greg. My microphone's on.

Stugats. Paint the scene. The paint the scene is I got to go to work. Good night. This is the Don Lebatar Show with Stugatz. ["The Shadows of the Sky"] Do me the favor, Chris. I meant to tell you guys, but we were too busy farting around on the Shadow Show.

Can you just get Stugatz's operatic song about the Jets from our musical? Because the Jets thing that happened yesterday, Stugatz. Yeah. I only do this in the context of what was happening elsewhere in the league, in the place where the best teams are playing, in the game that mattered the most yesterday, where the Bills beat the Chiefs again, and the Chiefs unbeaten season, but

the way they do it, Stugatz, all of these close, close games, all of these games that Patrick Mahomes has been winning one score games and at the end has the reputation now that used to be only bradys or don't leave him anytime he's going to take everything from you on fourth and two with the football the bills did the thing nobody does and your jets didn't do it yesterday and it cost them the game yet fourth and two with the ball no our guy has the ball you should be afraid to stop

him our guy has the ball i like our chances of ending your guys ability to come right back down the field a lot of coaches kick the field goal there sir ian he doesn't and in this case they ran with josh allen he runs twenty six yards he's going through your secondary like a centaur crazy like he's he's making five dot five hugely athletic guys either miss or fall off him. And your Jets lost yesterday because on fourth and two they kicked the field goal and then Anthony Richardson went all the way down the field.

Do you realize that fourth and two play, if they don't get it, we would have been saying here comes Mahomes, he's going to win the entire game? If they kick the field goal, we're going to say here comes Mahomes, he's going to score a touchdown. So Josh Allen is going down the field. You can see them processing the time, the clock, the timeouts. One of two things needs to happen. We need to score a touchdown so Mahomes can't go down the field and beat us because the math doesn't work out that way or we have to kill the clock. And so that

was a gutsy call. Josh Allen made a great play. He won the MVP on that play and it was a great game. It lived up to the hype. It was a crazy game. Did he win the MVP? Lamar Jackson yesterday lost exactly the way that people are expecting him to lose in the playoffs. I don't know if you saw this. I've got to look up this because Derek Henry, seeing him fumble was confusing to me yesterday because I'm so used to not only is that guy never hit hard by anybody He does all the hitting I think it was like a 538 touches it might have been 580 something touches since he had a fumble and at the end of that game They just come out and take the football

From him. So maybe Lamar Jackson lost the MVP yesterday, but I want to talk about how many coaches in that sport Do what the Bills did with Josh Allen? I remember you guys remember yesterday but i want to talk about how many coaches in that sport do what the bills did with josh allen i remember you guys remember uh... years ago years ago bill bellacheck on fourth and short when no one was going with four on fourth and short had tom brady

against paid manning and he went for it he failed in everyone crushed bill bellacheck for making the call yet now everybody goes for the fort down in their own territory tom lindon a couple times again yesterday but nobody's afraid of four dot dan campbell doesn't care about fourth and five but how many coaches in the spot where you're going to get blamed for the decision in that league do what they did in that spot for them to know ma homes

i believe in my guys ability to keep you off the field for the rest of the game you're not going to do that here dot os i believe in my guy and then my god as you about other throw the ball cuz if you don't trust in there that's fine he runs all twenty six yards because he's galloping through your secondary like a stallion like a clides dale he's the size of a linebacker and and when he's running he's took difficult to stop unlike most quarterback. I don't think Stu Goss

is wrong when he says if you're looking at one play that turns the MVP race it might well have been that one and it makes you miss having a running quarterback. If you're a Dolphins fan and the crowd gasps every time it looks like two of them might run, it really makes you miss that. If I'm a defensive coordinator, the first thing I'm wondering about the other team is can that quarterback beat me running on third and eight? And man, the Bills are that.

That was Derrick Henry's first fumble since 2022. I think it was his first fumble lost because he fumbled the ball a couple weeks ago, but he didn't lose the fumble. That's crazy. But Dan, you ask how many teams go for it in that spot, there are not many teams that have that quarterback, and that's a big difference. Like confidence in that quarterback is easy to have.

I think that that spot and people going for it, it's more and more routine. What isn't routine is what Buffalo does with fourth and two, which is everybody on the opposing sideline, everyone watching at the bar, every Bills fan there at Ralph Wilson knows what this play is going to be it's never leaving Josh Allen's hands we're not calling a play we're calling a player the Ravens have been doing that for

several seasons yeah and they tried it again and they ran to his offside which was a little weird but it's the same exact even on the opposite side of the sideline yeah they thought about it with Justin Fields Justin Fields justid early, but there are just certain guys in a super athletic league that just break the mold there, that are just so much more athletic. And Josh Allen's not just athletic, but big and strong. It's just such a huge weapon. Also in the Steelers game, that two-point conversion, Tomlin called a timeout so the Ravens had to get, they were in formation, saw, the Steelers saw what they were going

to run on that play, which was probably gonna be Lamar Jackson running power into the end zone. But they called the timeout, the Ravens had to get a backup play in there, and that play, it looked like the wide receivers were confused where they were supposed to be running on that play, and the whole thing completely blew up, and the Steelers defense stopped them.

So that was a really timely timeout from Tomlin, because if the Ravens tie it there, you're like, why are you wasting a timeout, dude? Like you got the ball back and now you're down a timeout, but it completely worked out for him. It was a really smart choice. I wanna get to that game in a second because the delight in that game was,

oh, they're just gonna fight all game. Yes. These two teams are just going to physically fight all game because Jay Glazer says that the only thing that approaches the Stealer culture of violence is the Ravens culture of violence And so they're gonna fight and there's gonna be a hatchet in there somewhere. That's the AFC North and that's football I know but you guys been telling me that Cincinnati can just slow start their way every season and they've got an ability to fix All of that and I'm like I'm off that yeah now now they're kicker kickers yeah I mean what McPherson

has cost him so much this season and they make a Super Bowl because of his greatness a couple years ago so I want to analyze this part with Cody and with Billy as dolphin fans because I do not want to poo poo yesterday's victory no no no I just I just want to ask you since you got in with derrick henry fumbled recently but they don't did not lose it i don't have the numbers in front of me but to what i believe and this happened again yesterday has fumbled something like twenty four times the last couple of seasons and

they've only lost a third of them so they don't show up josh allen was reckless when we were doing quarterback analysis at the top of this division the thing that made to toa somebody who can knock off josh allen wasn't that he's better than josh allen is josh allen to turnover machine he's reckless with the football is gonna have five turnover games that get flaco benched all of a sudden. Two-len to Dan's point. Two has fumbled the ball 11 times this year.

No, but I want the last two years because what I want to add, I think it's more that I think it's a lot of fumbles, and he's only lost a third of them. And the reason that I bring it up is I ask you this. If it's lucky that he's only lost a third of them, if he had lost 22 of 23, would the evaluation of 2 of them be totally different than it actually is because fumbles count as much as interceptions and there's a certain randomness to the fact that fumbles get recovered by your own team? He's got an alarming fumble problem. He does, he has eight lost fumbles for his career.

But that's, it's an interesting question you're asking here. Would we view two differently if more of those were recovered by the other team? Of course we would. And we probably would. It's also a question of snaps, like if they snap ball over his head, is that a fumble on two-oh?

Like if they're bad snaps, are they fumbles that they're holding against him? Because we also are one, like we're five minutes away from celebrating Derrick Henry never technically fumbling the ball, even though he's fumbled it three times, he's only lost one. This is one of those things that I deeply want pro football focus to make easy to digest for the audience because all those fumbles, especially at the quarterback

position, need to be contextualized. I literally, because in college, this was the book on Cam Ward, that he averages like a fumbles, especially at the quarterback position, need to be contextualized. I literally, because in college, this was the book on Cam Ward, that he averages like a fumble a game at Washington State. He does have smaller hands, and then you literally watch every single one of those fumbles, and you realize he has such bad pass protection,

it's often a snap issue, because he's trying to get a read and cheat on the defense to the very last second to get a read. So there's a lot of that, and I just wish it was all contextualized for the audience because there's no way you can take inventory of this yourself. I think yesterday's dolphin game was a weird one.

And we talked about it a little bit on God Bless Football in that like the dolphins offense that you're used to is like quick strikes and attacks and scoring. And yesterday they were really eating up a lot of clock. They had like eight, nine minute drives. They didn't punt the ball once yesterday. They scored every single time they had the ball, with the exception, I think, of the end of the first half

and the end of the second half. So like, they scored every single time they had the ball. It was just a different way of doing it. They were doing small passes here. John, who had a career day with two touchdowns over 100 yards. Tyreek is finding like a new, it's not what you're used to Tyreek doing,

where he goes and he hits like an 80 yard touchdown. He's running around in the middle and they're using him a lot. On third down you know it's either gonna go to Johnu or it's gonna go to Tyreek. Like third and three it's gonna go to Tyreek, he's gonna hit you seven yards and he's just gonna keep the thing moving. So, like I don't know, I guess why the takeaway

that you have from yesterday is that two of fumbles a ball a lot, because yesterday was a good dolphin game, I think. It was. One of the great moments from yesterday was a good dolphin game, I think. It was. One of the great moments from yesterday was during that defensive breakdown of the Raiders, where John New Smith is wide open. Tyreek Hill is on the opposing sideline,

and he's just, as the play is going on, just got his arms crossed at Antonio Pierce, asking, how does that happen? Just a six-second long troll job as this play is unfolding. I talked about this on my own podcast that dropped this morning and Billy's 100% right in terms of- The Greg Cody Show featuring Greg Cody. Yeah, with.

Thank you. It was entirely the antithesis of the way they won last year, which was the quick strike, the big play. All last season, the entire year, they had three series of at least fourteen yesterday they had three series of fourteen plays in the first three possessions raiders it was yet well not just raiders it was an entirely different mindset for them tyreek hill had seven catches for sixty one yards that's the new pretty good game for time right so you you guys have seen what's happened we've all been watching the same sport

the kansas city chiefs when they had kelsey entire retail and had a cheap quarterback with value at quarterback they'll get you deep they'll get you short or watch a couple of seasons of my home sold moms are not going to keep letting you do it eighty yards one play you're gonna have to move it in move it, move it in until it's what it is now, which is totally constipated. Like Chiefs on third and five, maybe he'll run for six yards. He's gonna throw it at Kelsey's knee and it's all move it in, move it in, move it in because

we can't get behind you. Of course that's gonna happen to everybody. It'll happen to the Dolphins too. You're using up the hill years. You've got an athlete who's more of an athlete in an athletic time in the sport than all of them and on third and three you can't cover him so you're going to make him get five five yard catches? Yeah that's the way that it's going to happen on this time and they're not going to punt but the reason I brought up

the fumble thing though is because we're talking about Justin Tucker and the margins for victory in that sport. Where we all know the Ravenvens are good they've been one of the best for the last five years we all know that quarterbacks good we question whether that game's gonna happen to him in the playoff it doesn't even matter what happens the rest of their season we're just waiting around for is that game that happened to him in the playoffs it will but it always does but now just a doctor and in may but now it might be because justin tuckers screwed it up because they wasted the Justin Tucker years

They didn't win anything in the Justin Tucker. We're wasting of a kickers best year When it comes to Lamar Jackson Unbelievable talent multiple-time MVP winner, but people have those questions and they're fair He needs to do it in the playoffs But it's not just the playoffs Nick Wright points out as long as he's not playing the Chiefs, the dynasty of his era, the Steelers, his team's hated rival, or in the playoffs, Lamar is as good as any quarterback ever. Unfortunately in those spots he's got a 4-12 record, a 75 quarterback rating, more turnovers than touchdowns. He's simply bad against those

teams. And the Steelers have won 8 of nine against the MVP of the league. So I wanna talk about that game in a second. But when I'm mentioning the two-a-thing, the only reason I'm bringing it up, Billy, is because I'm wondering if we're doing some randomness. The rest of this season with the Dolphins is gonna have very little margin for error. They kinda gotta win all the games

or lose one or two here. And if one or two here and if one or two of those gets lost like yesterday when it's still close because of a fumble that gets lost what i'm asking you if the margins are so small in that sport because you just handed me a piece of paper that says that to i has thirty three fumbles is career eight have been lost i don't know if this is accurate he's got

twenty four fumbles in the last thirty six games and i'm simply asking you because of the number of times i don't see it talked about it all and you're right billy it's not the thing to talk about today it's the negative in and in a in a time that would be more positive because they got to get a mainstream and the quarterback looks right and their offense looks right enough and they have the patriots coming in this weekend but i'm i am simply asking the question because it seems like you would grant me

that if he had lost all 33 of the fumbles, that too would be unlucky, but neither one of them is, like we can agree that he's been lucky with fumbles and they've been lucky with fumbles, correct? Fumble luck is something that is calculated and for teams that have like a negative percentage of fumble recoveries it's expected that that will go back toward closer to 50 the following season because like yeah the the ball's shaped stupid and it bounces weird random totally random the

the fumble discussion is different with quarterbacks and it's especially different with Tua i'm not excusing his proneness to fumbling, but I am saying with that concussion problem when Max Crosby is about to tackle him in the pocket, his priority is protect my head and maybe protecting the ball come second. Maybe you can, you should do both at the same time, but if you have to pick, maybe you protect your head first. Have, have you guys thought of this? I've thought of two of the scariest places in football to be. One of them is after I fumble.

That seems, after I've fumbled, seems whatever's coming next seems like a kind of panic that I'm not gonna have anywhere else in my life. Is the other one Provo after midnight? It is not. Wasn't so hard for Kansas. No, but strange thing, you gotta get them before, after midnight.

Strange things happen in Provo. Yeah, strange things happen after midnight, yes. That's the distinction you're making. I thought you were gonna say Jacksonville. Yeah. That's the scariest place in the NFL. We will get to college football in a second. The second scariest place to me, I just think,

I don't know, well, there's three of them actually. Catching a punt seems like it would be horrifying if you're not fair catching. But the bottom of a fumble pile seems really awful. Like if I'm Tua and I'm fumbling that much, I don't want him at the bottom of what's ever happening down there. It's like putting, it feels to me like putting a baby

from a crib in a, it just, I don't like it. I don't like the way that I am viewing Tua games. Oh, there was a play yesterday, I don't like the way that I am viewing two at games. Oh, there was a play yesterday, the play where he threw the eight yard TD past a Tyree kill, where he rolls out to his left. I was terrified. There was a split second when the crowd

thought he might run. There was a gasp from the crowd. He thought he might run. Yeah, and it's just amazing how there's an exhale of relief when the ball leaves his hands. What was the baby in the crib? Yeah, where's the baby going? We're trying to follow. Into the fumble pile?

I view, in the middle of a fumble pile, I've got a baby. Right. Who is the baby? Yes. A baby to a ball. I thought the baby was a ball. No. Dan's baby.

Walk me through this. Okay. In the middle of the fumble pile, if you guys are in agreement with me that these Are the three worst feelings to feel in football or a baby and hurt them for the baby especially? Yes, babies don't understand babies are actually surprisingly not scared of a lot of things, but then scared of the dumbest things Yeah, well babies are dumb. Let's be honest. Yeah Are you fumbling the baby while wearing the suede jacket? Because I would think that you're less concerned

about protecting the baby than wondering about the jacket being ripped or something like that is brand new. Or stained. Yeah, or stained or, you know, grass stains. Grass stains are hard to get out. Do they come out of suede? Where is the jacket from?

I'd like to Google its approximate value. Does turf stain like grass? It's two of the baby. At Lebatard Show, put it on the poll, please. I've lost my train of thought because I'm being attacked. You're holding a baby. You're taking a baby, putting a baby into a compromising position.

The reason why I'm asking is it made it seem that you're just throwing babies in cribs, and that's historically not how you do it. Cruelty to babies. Put it on the poll at Levitard Show. And cribs. Are babies stupid at Levitard Show? They are. I mean, no fault of their own.

Right. What I was saying, it's always great when all of you rise up on attack. That's always a lot of fun. Right. The baby, though. I'm getting there, Stugats. I know. I'm getting there. You've already pushed me into this corner. I'm already here. I'm here with got no don't put baby in a corner does the baby wear a helmet at least the fumbled pile is a terrible place to be

returning a punt is a terrible place to be the moment of panic after you fumbled especially in a punt return when all of those torpedoes are coming down the field to spike you horrifying yes because your reaction is to get what it is you dropped. That's correct. Of course. Everyone else's reaction too is the problem. He dropped it! You don't know where they're coming from. It seems like a place where limbs and things can be fractured. It seems. Because you realize the football is in the middle of what feels like a

piranha pit, right? Like everyone is coming at 100 miles an hour, all of them strong and heavy, and you're panicked because everyone in the stadium, in America, and internationally knows this is your fault. So that moment seems like it's truly horrifying. Tua, in the middle of it, if he's gotta recover 33 fumbles in his career, would feel to me, like a baby, in a crib, in the middle of the fumble pile. Something bad is gonna happen to the baby.

The baby cannot defend itself. So the baby's in the crib in the middle of all this surrounding mayhem? In the crib, yeah. As he would look in the crib. Ah, okay. Weird analogy, Dick Tracy. Took a long time to get there as well.

Well, you guys got stuck on the baby portion. Well, we actually got stuck. We jacket. We don't understand it. Yeah, we found it, we found it. I got stuck on people are coming at 1,000 miles an hour. Pricy. Torpedoes. What's the third thing? It's the fumble pile, it's the fair catch,

and it's the what? It's just the moment. Jacksonville. The moment that you have fumbled. Provo. The very moment that you have fumbled. It seems like a terrifying place to live, does it not? Yes, it does. I believe we underestimate this stuff

because of the comfort of our living rooms. I believe that you guys don't spend a lot of time thinking about these horrors. You're saying living as a person who drops things on the regular that are valuable, yes, that is an awful place to live. I am totally with you, I never thought about it that way. But it's not just that, it's not that you're dropping

something that valuable, it's in that moment as you've dropped it everyone who's watching and there are many millions of people watching no you suck at your job this is your fault everything that's happening on the field is like it's rarely that obvious it's one person and it's their fault somebody gets blind sighted hit from the side you've just dropped the football You've dropped the punt and now what's coming at you is nine people ten people the long snappers in there, too The only one who's not coming is the punter. It seems awful Does it not yeah, yeah, who's gonna argue that it's not awful to fumble, right? Promo code on this jacket on sale or something. Good god, man

Is there a promo code on this jacket? Get it on sale or something? Good God, man. Woo! I don't know how you guys know where this is from. The internet. Damn. The internet knows everything. I do that with bottles of wine.

If somebody gives me a bottle of wine, the first thing I do is look up the price. Really? Really? And then judge the giver. Yeah, you have to. What do you judge as like, this was a nice bottle, like $40 plus?

Are you more expensive than that? It depends on the occasion. Or who's giving, right? If it's a special occasion, you know, that wants to be a three figure wine. What? Yeah, that wants to be a Caymus or something. Yeah, special occasion.

$60 is fine. If it's not a special occasion, it can be $40 or $60. It depends who the gift giver is, too. Like what if someone who doesn't, you know. No, you're right. It's not someone that spends this much money on a jacket. Like if Dan's spending this on a jacket, then the bottle of wine must resemble that.

Well, that's what I'm thinking. But he's not buying the jacket either. He married well, that guy. It's a fifth anniversary gift. It's a gift for a fifth anniversary. What are you supposed to buy someone like me on a gift for a fifth anniversary? Give certificate to Home Depot. Yeah. Oh, I love

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