The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Bigger. Bigger! BIGGER!!! (feat. Mike Ryan)

Episode Date: January 8, 2026

"So, we're not gonna talk about the Edward Cabrera trade?" It's finally here: the biggest game in 20 years. Mike Ryan joins us from Arizona for the Fiesta Bowl, and while we want to spend the next... 24 hours live, doing nothing but celebrating sports, there are some more important things happening in this country that can't be ignored. Today's cast: Dan, Amin, Chris, Jeremy, and Roy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So yesterday, professional critic Mike Ryan explained how it is that I don't do the shadow show well enough for his liking on whatever his visions were once upon a time for a shadow show. Starting low again. The thing that I always wanted the shadow show to be is like a private meeting we were having amongst ourselves that the audience could overhear how we actually interact as if we didn't know the microphones were on. That was the original intent of what the shadow show was. supposed to be. It lasted all of about a week. That's how we talk to each other off air. We whisper. No, so the way that I, I, the way I imagined it is the following.
Starting point is 00:00:38 You laugh, Roy. You laugh, Roy. Because it's funny. Roy, but I'm very frustrated, okay, because I'm going to let the audience in on what was the private meeting, which was. The private meeting was just me sitting in the middle of the room, squatting and then rising up my palms and just asking everybody in the room,
Starting point is 00:00:54 bigger! The game needs to be bigger! And then we fart out that intro yesterday and I'm like no bigger bigger like what do you guys not understand about we've been waiting for this football game for 20 years in this town pro or amateur like bigger and everyone's looking at me we're tired Dan the muffins are good we don't want bigger we just want to eat watch the game I'm like let's do a live stream let's do 24 hours straight like freedom bigger and everyone's like Dan I've got kids I got you know we got practice you were muffins yesterday
Starting point is 00:01:28 I want to do 24 straight hours leading to this game. Blueberry. Too late. I want to do. Mike Ryan does too. He's snorting the West Coast right now. Mike Ryan is care. Do you guys understand?
Starting point is 00:01:40 He said earlier this week with no self-awareness whatsoever. He's like, you guys think I care about UM football? Mario Cristobal cares more. That's a thing he said. I sure would hope so. And now he's running around telling everyone, Mario Cristobal, that meat head is a genius. Well, have you seen his offensive line play?
Starting point is 00:01:59 He's the modern. You don't watch the games, Dan. He's in the cult, that's right. If you watch the games, what do you mean if I watch the games? I'm watching all the games, just like you are. Not for my box, you're not, Dan. Not moving and shaking with the U.M. women's basketball team fundraising, Golden Kane. He's everything the country hates about Miami.
Starting point is 00:02:18 It's a damn nice box he has, though. Sure is. You guys been? Me and Roy went once. I got the invite for the Stanford game. I genuinely, I genuinely, uh, don't know if there's anything that would make Mike Ryan happier. And he loved the Panthers winning than the University of Miami winning this championship.
Starting point is 00:02:38 We got to talk about that. That's the best thing for the show, right? It's for them to make it to the championship game, but then to get absolutely annihilated. That's what, from a content standpoint. By Indiana. That's what we're rooting for. Yeah. Like, what?
Starting point is 00:02:50 How'd that happen? The best story, yes, is Indiana dragging them like they did Alabama in the final. I came back after our two-week break, like, actually for the first time in a really long time, ready to root for Miami. I was like, you know what? It's cool for the show. It's, you know, the local story. I care about Miami teams in general. Mike broke that.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Within about two hours of the show, I was like, fuck that team. The first segment. Fake break in a show. You're you! Fake break in a show. Let's go! Fake break in a show. Fake break home show
Starting point is 00:03:29 Biggest game in 20 years Mass kicks ass How does it rub you We put belt to ass It rubs me beyond the wrong way Fake break room show You think that your family would get a lot of joy From Malaki
Starting point is 00:03:46 So did we Head to head It's good Hello Just having fun man And boom goes the dynamite Fake break hamisho Yeah
Starting point is 00:03:56 I'm not letting that story mess with my glory talking about how long. Damn it, how long. History is gold. We are right here, right now. And every team they thought was going to beat us is taking their ass home. Sorry. We're going to keep doing it until we land back home in our stadium for the national championship. Belk to hand.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Bigger. bigger. Biggest game in 20 years. This means more to Mike Ryan than any sports thing ever. I have to imagine even the Panthers winning multiple championships. I believe Mike Ryan, who's flown across the country, to be closer to the fiesta, I believe Mike Ryan would be made happier by the Miami Hurricanes winning this football game and the next one than he would by any sports thing that's ever happened in Miami. Miami Heat included, everything included. I believe he cares more about this than anything. I need this to be a bigger fake pregame show. I'm challenging this company right now to do freedom all over again right now today. What? 24 straight hours. Let's just go straight through right now beginning today. Fake pregame show right up until the game, challenging Metal Arc Media live the entire way.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Let's go. Right up until the game and then watch the game together and then go home for the night because Miami's going to play the next biggest game in 20 years. Pro or college in this town. The football games are the biggest. Miami wins championships in soccer, South Florida wins championships in hockey, plural. This is the biggest thing. Football is the biggest thing, and in 20 years they have not mattered.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Either team, not really, not like this. This is the biggest thing. Is Metal Arc Media going to rise to the moment? Because I'm in the meeting before the show, bigger, rise to the moment. Michael Irvin Niji is saying Bill to ask to all of you and all of you are like, I've got to go take care of the kids. And then Zaz is like, I've got to go to the Peach Bowl. And so what? I'm like, no, live stream.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Let's go. 24 straight hours, freedom. Isn't this why we do this? We've been waiting 20 years. They win championships in South Florida. Plural, soccer, hockey. And here it is, the biggest thing. Before the next biggest thing.
Starting point is 00:06:06 You got me hyped, Dan. No, but it's the time. Michael Irvin's been asking you. It's the time right now. You don't get these chances. Miami's been waiting 20 years for this chance again. And tonight, they're favored. And I want to do right up until the game.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Jeremy, make another open. Bigger. I'll make it bigger. Bigger. debacleed it. Mike Ryan is already landed at the Fiesta Bowl. I don't know what his festivities planned. I don't want to speak for him here, even though I did.
Starting point is 00:06:33 This is bigger by how many miles on any championship that you care about? This is the biggest. You were right. The Panthers, for personal reasons, was big, kind of full circle because that was my first job in sports. But this one, there isn't a passion that matches this. The only thing that comes close to this was my former love for the Cleveland Browns. That would have been to a lot, but I just took that passion for the Cleveland Browns, and I doubled up on my hurricane's passion, put my money behind it, too.
Starting point is 00:07:02 So, yeah, this is the biggest thing ever for me. Whose grandma's house are you at? Right. Well, there's that, you know better than anybody. This is an Arizona ass house right now. It's an abuela house. Yeah. You just said put my money behind it.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Now, you're somebody, wherever it is that you connect with these teams spiritually, like you bailed on Inter-Miamy because they gouged you, like financially, they were ripping you off and so your emotional investment was lost somewhere in there because you cared about everything that was happening there. You've actually invested your money and your heart in what it is you're doing. There aren't a whole lot of people, Mike, traveling with the team. Right. Well, I mean, the people that care, I mean, it's hard. It's expensive. That's what I've learned about the college football playoff is if you make it, it's expensive. And I just diverted those Inter-Miamy funds to Miami hurricanes athletics because you know I wanted to be here one day and
Starting point is 00:07:55 we're here I got to be honest and it feels a little surreal I especially after losing to SMU I definitely didn't think that it was gonna happen this year and to be going down this run I it's very like pinch me the entire time yesterday I didn't really get to soak in the the environment because of everything that was going on was kind of like a crappy day but today I'm gonna get fired up for it um and i'm i'm really happy that miami's made it to this moment is pretty validating acceptance speech right here right it was and he said crappy day while in the middle of yeah okay we're now doing the shooting white women in the face of minneapolis thing yeah yeah if i could because if i could if i may
Starting point is 00:08:36 for a second because that's kind of ruined everything for me and uh i'm around this country and i don't know miami hurricane fan wants to hear this if they don't want to play this game today i'm okay with it like the sports the world paused during the george floyd thing and in minnesota we all saw a video of an american citizen getting shot multiple times in the face for moving their car and our government is lying to us about it and if this isn't a tipping point for all of us to stop what we're doing i don't know what is we we cannot let this be okay we cannot let life go on and and not address what's happening right now that last what happened last night was the sum of a lot of fears when we were talking with all this rhetoric about the the previous election and we're here and things
Starting point is 00:09:26 are happening so quickly that I think we're all struggling to stop it because there's something crazy and new every day this we cannot let happen and I would really prefer if you sports took the moment to acknowledge that like it has before. And even if it's just to rip the games away from you and force you to look at this and what's going on, do it. I would say, I don't know why that conversation's been absent from the sporting conversation. I don't know what we're doing right now. Things are moving too fast, I guess, but last night was one of the worst days in American history, I think. And we need to talk about it. that. I am curious as I do ask us to go legitimately now. I'm not joking when I say I want to be
Starting point is 00:10:22 live here for a while going up to this game tonight because I'd like to enjoy ourselves during perilous times, during times that we've been doing the song and dance every day around here, pretending that it's just about sports, just about sports, while ignoring some things that feel like beyond infringements on democracy where you're just got a senile old orange turd. talking about oil, oil, oil, and not democracy while bombing Venezuela and making a whole lot of people in a section of Miami really happy because, yes, Maduro is down and that's lovely. That feels like communism falling and it feels like America being right. But there's nothing going on right now with this country when the ICE agents and the military state police are sitting there
Starting point is 00:11:05 shooting even white women from Minneapolis in the face. And when this happened in Minnesota five years ago we did protest in the streets because of a race thing and like this is a white woman shot in the face like what that's that's where we are on this and i also want to cover both things at the same time though mike because as david sampson goes through something very difficult and you sat in for an hour today on nothing personal did you talk about this no no uh we were talking about the Mon Williams in the transfer portal, which, you know, I was actually welcoming of that conversation too. Like the Miami Hurricanes are proving to be one hell of a distraction, as you described a lot of the events that happened. And I think our show and the audience would kind of
Starting point is 00:11:57 note this too. Look, we stepped away from talking about this because I think we all collectively saw the value in being a welcome distraction and bringing levity back I think our show probably too much over the course of the previous years tried to buck against what was happening and it was a sacrifice for our show and I think to a degree we paid somewhat of a price and we've had these conversations before the show like how do we want to talk about this do we want to be uh the bright spot in people's day um and i think to a very large degree dan we've done the right thing we we've tried to make people happy and make them laugh but you see that video last night and you see the disgusting statements from the people in our government that are supporting the
Starting point is 00:12:49 actions of that ice agent this fake police that is not doing what not qualified not fake police we did it with fake news fake police people who are not qualified to be shooting anybody in the face. They're not qualified to have those jobs. I've never seen a group of people that are so welcoming and unhumiliated to be lied to directly to their face. None of the stuff that's happening right now is what was on the platform of what they voted for. These are not violent criminals that were chasing down. There wasn't an invasion of Venezuela that was on the platform. How many times you have to pivot? Are you not embarrassed? There is a tipping point. And if it's not a woman trying to move her car away from a fake police, an unqualified fake police and getting shot in the face three times for it and then having everyone in politics on that side of the aisle gaslight you and telling you what you saw is not right and that the victim here is a person doing the shooting, when are you going to when are you going to face reality?
Starting point is 00:13:54 This is a moment in time that I that I hope that all people meet. It's not on sports. I know I opened up with that. Sports is just a part of it. If people want to make a statement, I don't think this is a political statement. I think this is an American statement. I think that people should take the opportunity to take a stand right now and say this is not right. That's all I can do.
Starting point is 00:14:16 I can't go to Minneapolis right now and protest. But I have protested in Miami. And I have made my voice heard when I can't, when I was fearful of something like this happening. something like this just happened I do think that we need to take to the streets I do think that we need to make statements I do think that anybody with a platform should speak on it and I do agree that there are times
Starting point is 00:14:38 for levity and there's time for laughter and there's times for transfer portal and there's times for the verbo fiesta bowl maybe we can do all those things at the same time but now is absolutely a time to use your microphone and say this is not right all right kicking things off with smearing off
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Starting point is 00:16:15 I will toast with you. Okay. We're co-workers. Mm-hmm. Friends, you could say. No, we cannot say that, but we both enjoy an ice-cold Miller light. That's true. Especially around the holidays. You know, it's a 50th anniversary of Miller Light. It's really amazing.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Every time we say that, I can't believe it. Well, it's crazy because, like, they've basically been partners with the Dan Levitard show for half of their existence. Wow. When I put it to you that way, we got an old-ass show. Yeah, we do. That's crazy. Hey, let's look around at our friends, not each other, and our family, even though they're not here. I do miss your brother, though.
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Starting point is 00:17:13 a room. The best holiday beers are the ones you don't expect. Miller Lite, great taste, 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com slash Dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller light pretty much anywhere they sell beer tis miller time celebrate responsibly miller brewing company milwaukee wisconsin 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces and you mentioned distractions that's absolutely right uh people want the sugar instead of the medicine and the media as a whole is just not helping i mean especially cbs who seems like they've bought and paid for they're just making excuses for this government well so this is okay um yes i'm sorry this is not the fias No, CBS, of course. Look, I've been wanting to talk about this stuff for a while, and I felt a bit cowardly and not talking about some of it because this is a hugely interesting time in media. It's collapsing. Hollywood is collapsing, and mainstream media has already collapsed. It's already done collapsed. And now they're picking up the pieces. And of course, CBS, home to 60 Minutes, one of the great journalistic empires, is afraid of the mad king, like run by the mad king. And that's one network gone as he changed.
Starting point is 00:18:24 is Kimmel and bombs Venezuela, because there's a loon in charge, a loon that has a million deficiency, including trying to cover up an alleged pedophilia scandal that is in the middle of everything that we're doing as the world burns and brown people are jailed and now white women are shot in the face by fake police. Yes, it's enraging, but the Fiesta Bowl tonight. It's a huge game. Yeah, big game. Yeah. Boy, look, I don't think there's many things I could my spirits, but lifting up that burbo-opiescible trophy might help matters. I want to go. I'm not kidding you when I say I want the stunt of this is what just happened in the meetings before the show where I have to agree to live stream the national
Starting point is 00:19:07 championship game whether or not Miami's in it. And I'm like, no, I'd only like to do it if Miami's in it. I don't really want to do it the other way. And they're like, nope, you got to commit to it now. And so if Miami loses tonight, I get the pleasure of being able to live stream a game I don't even want to watch. Mike, how do you feel? Mike, how do you feel? We talked about it right before he came on. I think collectively, we're all rooting for Miami to win and then get their ass handed to them in the national championship game.
Starting point is 00:19:33 For the sake of the show, for the sake of content. Yeah, no. No, that's the best. No. Yes. Oh, I'm sorry, Amin. Has the show over the course of its 20-plus years not had enough of Miami sadness?
Starting point is 00:19:44 Do you think that we need yet another heartbreaking loss? I think there's been a pretty consistent theme throughout the history of the Dan Levitard show with Stu Gatz. Miami and its fans and Mike are sad. They're pathetic. And I think 21 years in, we can finally have a happy ending.
Starting point is 00:20:01 I don't want to put this out there, but if we're just talking funniest thing for the show, it's like a Mario Blunder at the end of the championship. Oh, wow. Even better than get the has ended. No, I like that. Not like that. You're not going to do better than that. So he doesn't kneel at the end or something. I'll show you.
Starting point is 00:20:18 I'll show you guys. I'll keep running up the score through the face mask of the other team. One will do. I'll show you what toughness is and you cause you the champion. Rest assured. Rest assured, I'll get the most enjoyment out of Dan hosting a corporate-sponsored live stream for Oregon Ole Miss. That's what I'll.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Listen to them, boys. No, with my father, Mike's been saying for years, my father's going to be the casino greeter right over there near the Freedom Towers because they're building the Trump library right here. That my father at the end is just going to be welcoming people into the Freedom Tower for a token so he can go get some government cheese. Guys, please don't treat Mike like he did me when the Panthers were off 3-0 on Edmonton. That was not fun.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Don't do that too much. But Roy, it's just, it's a different strain of pain, right? Like, he's right. We've celebrated the sadness of the pain for Twitter. But this one would be, oh, this is a rarity. They never really get this close, right? So close. No, best for show content, everyone gets to laugh at us is no one will do better in their imagination
Starting point is 00:21:17 than a Mario Cristobal coaching blunder at the end. There's nothing funnier than that. They haven't had that? they haven't had that they've had plenty of that no there there would be nothing funnier than them about to beat indiana undefeated you give me the funnier than them about you suck you suck you like i thought you met this moment with the right energy at the start you're a canes guy can we be happy we want can we have happiness i'm not even just talking about the miami hurricanes and its relationship with their show can we have some happiness period yes like let me be happy so
Starting point is 00:21:53 So, yes, I will let you be happy now by pointing out again again as you make an acceptance speech. It was a validation speech. You care about this in a way when you're saying, you are putting your money where your mouth is. Almost as much as Mario. And the NIL money and the business of it, you've become an insider on journalism stuff and sports stuff. And one of the interesting analysis is of this game that I would say is the greatest advantage of Miami has, I don't think there's a better one than the one I'm about to say. I think Georgia in pass rush was like a hundred and twenty something in sack rate, and they were bothering Chambliss.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Miami seven, and it's the best advantage that Miami has on the field. It's the best advantage either one of these teams has, although Miami's running game against their inability to stop the run is also a secondary advantage. But Miami should win this game based on its advantages and will only lose it if they turn the ball over. Yeah, Miami should win this game. We had a pretty contentious discussion about it yesterday. I agree. Ole Miss does things that can bother Miami.
Starting point is 00:23:04 I'm curious to see the matchup. I do think Miami's offense will be challenged to respond. They haven't trailed in these games. And I think that they'll have to rise to the occasion. But also, as I noted, Miami's played plenty of tempo this year. I'm pretty sure Julian Sayan thought he got that ball out pretty quick as he was watching Kianti Scott run the game. other way with it. Miami can press you at the line of scrimmage and those receivers. Miami can
Starting point is 00:23:29 really nuke a lot of what Ole Miss does well. And while the coaching thing that Ole Miss has done has been incredibly impressive, it's one of the most impressive things I've ever seen. I can't tell if Philip Rivers playing football or Ole Miss's coaching staff navigating this Lane Kiffin thing is more impressive. But people need to realize in the college football playoff, they played Tulane and Georgia. Those are two teams they'd already played in the season. They just had a microwave their game plan. They haven't seen anything like Miami. And they're going to find out today. Mike, how different would you feel had Lane Kiffin not left Ole Miss if he was the head coach right now? I can't lie. Like this situation helps Miami. I don't know how these coaches are navigating it,
Starting point is 00:24:14 especially with the portal being open and having to worry about talent retention. Like you have quality control coaches that have never been in this situation having to step up and and coach position groups i don't know everything that goes into coaching but i have an idea of of game day preparation and i know what our side is doing i know what our coordinators are doing wait a minute wait a minute that's a happen to know that's a i that's an i know he gave it as an i know but that's a happen to know that's that's even stronger than happen to know oh my god he knows he happens to know come everyone come and listen he happens to know
Starting point is 00:24:53 well and four what do you know wise golden cane what do you know I know that our coaches I know our coaches have way more time to prepare for this game now I don't know how much that helps like I haven't this is pathetic to say and it really speaks to how much
Starting point is 00:25:10 I thought you just knew I thought you just know I do know about I do know about the time that our coaches are dedicating to this and how it's impossible for Ole Miss to dedicate that same amount of time when they're flying back and forth to Baton Rouge. That part is obvious. It's pathetic to say I haven't been around college football at this level in my lifetime as an adult.
Starting point is 00:25:34 So I don't know how to read vibes. I thought Miami had a really good vibe and a really good intensity and a really good focus when I was around the coaches and the players over the last two college football playoff games. It's the button. What are you laughing about? What? Look at me, Lou.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Look at me, Louis. Of course. Look at me, Louis. Why? Because he knows? No, because when I was around the players and the coaches of the last couple of. No, Miami's got, Miami's dialed. But I look at the other end, I look at the, like, the Ole Miss coaches put out a video of them playing baseball in one of the, like, meeting rooms.
Starting point is 00:26:09 And I don't even know if they have enough coaches to feel the baseball team. Like, these guys are loose. But I guess I'll just play the result. if old miss wins this game like i'll be like they're they were just incredibly loose that's a house money they they they were unburdened by everything but these people look awfully happy to be here and they're not giving off respect the opponent nearly as much as ohio state and texas an md oh are you demanding respect from mississippi as an opponent no i'm not demanding respect we will take it oh so what is happening here so wait a minute so oh hi you're what you're saying is the
Starting point is 00:26:43 texas they play the game hold on If they play the game, which I'm not so sure they should. No, I believe you said they shouldn't. They probably shouldn't. We probably shouldn't be on the air right now. I shouldn't be doing anything. I should be home with my family and probably stocking up on canned goods. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:05 And we should be broadcasting live from what is still a live free media center, right, as CBS gets bought. Yes, in a little bunker. We laugh. That's not funny. Roy. No, no, this is funny. This is funny. We're in a bunker and we're going to have one of the few free microphones out there in four weeks when the fake cops start shooting other people. They're shooting the white women in the face.
Starting point is 00:27:27 In Minnesota, it's fake police. Like you can't have fake police. You can't shout fake news, fake news, fake news, fake news, fake news while we're in the streets with George Floyd. Fake news, fake news, fake news, fake news, and that's a race protest and then have this, what you have happening right now in America, which is not overstated to say the proper. of the networks that are bought and paid for by this orange person and his powers that can't be taken away, that the country is under attack now when the white women in Minnesota are being shot in the face by fake police that aren't police that are only police because the white president who's senile and crazy and getting his crazy people crazier is saying brown people
Starting point is 00:28:08 are the problem, get all the brown out of the country, kill the black, get the brown out of get it all out of here. Yeah, I think the vice president yesterday said America has a Somali problem. Look, let me try to focus. And I know that a lot of what Dan said, if you're on the other side, you might view as toxic. All right, let's just look at this from the facts. We all saw that video. It ain't right. That was an American. That wasn't some violent criminal that crossed our border that you believed ICE was here to stop. That's not what was positioned. We all know over the last few months. That's not what they're doing. We've all seen the videos you can politicize that i think yesterday we can all agree maybe with the exception of
Starting point is 00:28:50 stephen a smith uh that was wrong that was really wrong and we as a what we think we are as americans if we want to honor anything that that flag is supposed to represent we all got to unify and say this has to stop this is not right and i'm not even talking about the act. I'm talking about how people are talking about it afterwards saying that it's okay, gaslighting you, lying to your face about what you saw with your very own eyes. That's wrong. That is wrong. Shooting someone in the face that shouldn't have been shot in the face, absolutely is wrong. But for nobody to actually conduct an investigation, put the blame on this innocent murder victim and tell you that they were a domestic terrorist. Fuck that. Straight up.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Everybody needs to come together and say, no, that is not okay. People need to lose jobs. People need to be held accountable. People need to say it's not right. The video does not lie, but in this age of what media you're going to trust, you can't trust any of it. It's all fake news, propaganda, what's real, what's AI, how do you manipulate the masses? I mean, you must be. I'm curious because I haven't heard from you on anything like this.
Starting point is 00:30:09 So you know what government, you came to America for reasons that didn't have this in it. You thought this country didn't have this in it, correct? Yeah, no, I mean, this is, there's a level of, like, I'm listening to you guys talking, there's a level of, like, almost like naivete I'm hearing for you guys. Like, you guys, now you think it's been happening. Like, this has been happening, not by fake police, but by real police to citizens, but citizens that aren't white women. But now it's like, oh my God, I'm like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Like, every time you push an inch of a limit and no one reacts and no one pushes back and no one really stands in solidarity, like, okay, we can say that it's gone too far. This is what happens. And so this is the next logical evolution, which is, yeah, people who aren't even ordained or, you know, like law enforcement officers are allowed to do these things, in the name of the great dictator, right? The, hey, maybe we can change the Constitution and run a third term.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Hey, maybe we can invade a country, regardless of how bad it is over there, without any congressional approval. Like, there's a whole list of things you have to do before you can declare war on a country. And before you say, oh, it wasn't declared war, we're arresting him for drug trafficking. Well, then why did the president say,
Starting point is 00:31:34 we're going to run Venezuela? Yeah. At that moment, you have just announced we annexed the country. Or military operations. Or pardoning Honduras from an assortment of similar things. The hypocrisy aside, I'm just saying when you do a military action in a foreign land saying it's under the auspices of law enforcement because this guy's a drug trafficker. And then you announce the successful operation of saying, we're going to run Venezuela. ladies and gentlemen that's not law enforcement that is imperialism and for oil just said flatly
Starting point is 00:32:13 and said several times we're doing this for venezuela's oil never mentioning democracy secretary of state says we're going to set up a an account and we're going to sell the Venezuelan oil we're going to get the money and then we'll pay Venezuela you know to help them like guys this I don't understand if we just call it the East India Tea Company or whatever, maybe it'll be a little bit more imperialistic, but it is imperialism. But all of this is complicit because for years and years, and this is why I say it's not a partisan thing.
Starting point is 00:32:48 There's always been parties. And for the last, however many years, Republicans and Democrats, and they're at each other's next or whatever. But there was a process in a decorum, which this is done. Decorum, just in terms of, hey, how we speak to each other. process in terms of life. There are rules that we're all following. No, polite society is dead. Forget polite society.
Starting point is 00:33:10 There were rules. Polite society is the unwritten rules that we all follow. You don't say fuck around and find out on national TV because it makes seem like a big tough guy. Like that's just not appropriate. But besides that, there are rules to how this stuff gets done.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Constitutional rules. Written years ago by the framers because they envision the world where the leader of this country could just do whatever the hell they want and they didn't want that. What we have now is this because it has been complicit.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Everyone's complicit with it. Yeah, go along with it. Yeah, well, I know. He's on our side, so who cares? The number of people I got to hear about, oh, Venezuela's so bad. You didn't give a damn about no Venezuela. You didn't care.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Now you care? To a means point, like think of it in sports terms. Like, you have a winless team. Everybody wants to coach out. There isn't brand loyalists that say, like, no, this is what I wanted. This is people in sports have the awareness of like, well, our plan didn't work out and we must change it. A lot of what's going on right now, not just a Venezuela thing, because maybe you can find some campaign stop where he talked about Venezuela and maybe some campaign stop about Greenland.
Starting point is 00:34:26 But Colombia, Honduras, Cuba, we're putting out. propaganda from our social media saying this is this is our hemisphere we're straight up imperial we're going we're we're threatening to take military action to fellow NATO members that what is this he wouldn't have won the election
Starting point is 00:34:45 talking about these things nobody would have said this was okay Mike what do you talk about when he won the election what was the thing that he was really talking about all the time America first no wars number one and number two economy economy like the economy sucks in the shitter
Starting point is 00:35:01 What? So, like, if you're on that side, it also, let's not forget, releasing the Epstein files, you're literally getting like almost none of the stuff that you're asking for. Like, how are you, you're waking up, sucking that down.
Starting point is 00:35:17 They let you down. And defending it, it's humiliate. If you voted for him, he's letting you down. He doesn't let me down. He's doing everything I thought he was going to do. Be pissed with us. Like, this is all bad. You should agree.
Starting point is 00:35:27 You're also not getting what you wanted. There's a whole bunch of people in this country on both sides of the aisle that are getting a whole country crap. I knew you were going to get that wrong. I knew you were going to get the timing on that wrong. You could have done it a second earlier. Biggest game of 20 years. And you could have stopped him at the right time, but
Starting point is 00:35:43 you blew it. You cut him off. And I was making a good point, I felt. Yo, you didn't see him say, but you were just sitting there. You waved everybody off, and you're like, I got it. I got biggest game in 20 years. I got it. I got the timing on this. And then you couldn't get your
Starting point is 00:36:01 timing right with Mike. But it is a giant game. It is. It's huge. And maybe we went in and hosted Natty. Mike, this might be just a figment of my old age, right? But I remember the last time Miami was this
Starting point is 00:36:21 good. Everybody on that team was famous. I'm talking about famous in the moment. Not years later. I can't believe those guys were all on the same team. It was like, in the moment. We're like, wow. These guys are all famous. If you ask me to name University of Miami players right now, and again, this might be just because I'm old and I can't pay attention to shit.
Starting point is 00:36:39 I know Carson Beck. He's infamous. That might be the only name like you name. Hold on. Hold on. So Amin's coming into this with the expertise of Georgia Tech football fan who really cared the last couple of years about Haynes King and is amused by an entire system that produces Duke wins the ACC championship game.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Haynes King is probably the best quarterback in the conference. and Georgia Tech collapses at the end, and now Miami plays for a most improbable of championships. It sneaks up on you a bit because there's never been a champion that has also lost to Louisville and SMU before the year. Like, that's not something that's happened before. Can I talk to people about this stuff
Starting point is 00:37:16 and someone made a really good point about you mentioning the loss of Louisville and this being potentially the first two lost champions since LSU and it's a historical outlier. I also don't think you can find many champions. that would have, you know, 14 wins. But I think parity has come to this sport, and you need to look at this sport more like the NFL.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Gino Smith, Pete Carroll, they went to Foxborough and beat the New England Patriots week one. Their season wasn't over, you know? And I think that you need to look at the regular season in college football in this new age of parity more like the NFL than you used to. That was a weird game. The Raiders beat the Pats week one. Wow.
Starting point is 00:37:58 It's why I haven't. believed in the Patriots sense. If you ask me, if you ask me for any of the numbers, you can give me all the metrics. I keep expecting them because their players are injured, the linemen are injured. I expect Drake May to not actually be the next great thing. Are you kidding me? The Patriots got another one that fast? No, it can't be that fast. And the reason I'm saying is Pete Carroll dragged your ass. He dragged your ass in New England week one held you to 10 points. I watched it. But in the NFL, we pay extra close attention to how well teams are playing at the right time. Peking at the right time. There's that cliche. You want to play your best ball at this time
Starting point is 00:38:33 a year. And for whatever reason, we can't program our brains to do that because of what college football used to be. We still think that Miami can, is the team that lost to Louisville and SMU when like the NFL, they're bumps in the road. They can learn from it and they can find their form and they have. They're peaking at the right time. I think the sports changed. And I think that media is just kind of struggling how to apply the logic, which is the, the, sheer absurdity of the CFP discussion. Okay, Mike, yes, you're right about this and you're
Starting point is 00:39:05 also, you'd also be right if you said the following. Okay, did Navy win its last bowl? Did Navy beat Oklahoma at the end of last year? Because the Navy team I watched this year was as good as any I've seen. They beat Memphis, they beat South Florida, but they won a bunch of close games. And so no one will ever believe that Navy is
Starting point is 00:39:21 playoff good, like that, because there have been too many years. I was a couple years ago, I think, the Navy team that beat Oklahoma. Okay. So, but no one's ever going to believe that Navy is going to be playoff good, even though this was an amazing Navy team this year, and the wins over Memphis and South Florida were legitimately impressive. So last year they went 10 and 3 after beating Oklahoma in their bowl game. This year, they were 11 and 2.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Their two losses were at North Texas and at Notre Dame. And they got crushed by Notre Dame, and that's part of the reason. But I only bring up the point for this reason. Nobody would consider Navy. You can make the argument in the Navy that was better than some of the playoff teams. It would have beaten James Madison. You can make that argument. It wouldn't be very hard.
Starting point is 00:39:59 But when I look at also, what's happening with the SEC is that there's this assumption that Alabama and Georgia would be Alabama and Georgia just because you've seen Alabama and Georgia in those uniforms look like that for 10 years. And that defensive line was terrible this year. Like there are only 136 teams. It's 126th in pass rush. Georgia won championships because the NFL guys on the defensive line. You're loving the uniforms. Alabama and Georgia ain't that. Indiana just showed you what Ohio State type football does.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Alabama, like runs it into the ground. So what Mike is overseeing over here is you're in the new system of investing your money. Miami is very close to having the best thing most probably to win even though its offense is the worst thing remaining statistically because it can also beat you with its offense tonight. It just hasn't had to do it so far. It's why Mike's this kind of confident. He knows if you can beat Ohio State that way, you can do that to anybody. You're good enough to do it to anybody. So we're not going to talk about the Edward Cabrera trade.

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