The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Bill Belichick to UNC?

Episode Date: December 10, 2024

Today's Cast: Dan, Stu, Greg, Chris, Billy, Amin. Greg is in today and has brought the good stuff: face rubbing. Before we get to that, we have to discuss the possibility that Bill Belichick is going to be the head coach at the University of North Carolina. Is this all just a leverage play to get back to the NFL or do no NFL teams actually want The Hoodie? Is he bringing The Guy With The Pencil with him? Plus, David Samson is hanging around and dying to talk about Juan Soto and some of the biggest storylines coming out of baseball's Winter Meetings. Plus, Tyler Herro is playing like an All-Star for the Miami Heat and nobody really wants to talk about it. Did he beat Bam Adebayo to taking the next step? Also, Dan has a crazy Stat of the Day about Josh Allen and Nick Turturro has given us another gem after Juan Soto left the Yankees. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. Shadow show shadow show shadow show shadow show shadow show shadow shadow shadow. Chris, you should have seen how proud of. shadowing it. Chris, you should have seen how proud of himself he was as Greg Cody came in here, turned off his phone, and put on his headsets, ready to do the show, and started bragging about it. And I celebrated him.

After 20 years, he has learned common courtesy. Finally, he has learned the common courtesy of be ready to go when the show starts. He was so proud of himself for turning off his phone and for putting his microphone in front of his face. I cheered for him. He turned the volume down on his computer. I'm not certain he knows how to do any of these things,

so I don't know if the phone is actually off. I'm not certain the volume is turned down on his computer. And I also have to say, Dan, while celebrating it, I didn't like it. I mean... I didn't know what to do with it. I was certainly confused by it.

But he came in with the A material today. He's like, I got stuff on face rubbing. Oh. I mean, that's a big deal. That's a Cody family tru... And by the way, me being all prepared and unusually ready was my Christmas gift to you, so don't expect anything else. No, face rubbing is a family tradition. My dad did it. He said his dad did it. We're deep

rubbers. We're rubbers. You know, rubbing it and it works. You know, it's like, I don't want to do it right now because I just came out of the makeup. We're not on video right now, so it wouldn't be good to do it right now. Well, people can visualize it. Everybody rubs their face, but I make a ritual of it because it is a family tradition.

I had it as you rubbing other people's faces. No. No, no, no. That would be odd. Yeah, that's an intimate thing. Like when I'm rubbing my face, I'm giving myself a self massage and it's just, it's invigorating.

This came up with me and my dad because he does this on our podcast recordings. I'll be setting up a guest and we can see my dad. He thinks like he's doing this as if he can't be seen and he's just giving himself this like deep face massage while Dave Berry's on the leg. I'm like, Dad, I'm trying to get Dave Berry ready here. Can you stop massaging your face? It's making us both uncomfortable.

Don't knock it till you've tried it. That's the only thing I can say. I mean, it's wonderful. You know we touch our faces 23 times per hour? Put it on the poll at LeBittard Show, Juju, over, under touching your face 23 times an hour. Greg, you said it's a family tradition, and I'm gonna be honest with you,

you've said a lot of things are family traditions, and I'm concerned that they're not going to live on because your son, at least Christopher, seems to reject many of these family traditions. Most of them, almost all of them. Does Michael do the same thing? Like, will these family traditions all go with you? They will all go with me

I'll do pfpi. Well you that going you sure it's nice right now. I'm planning on He just said that on a recording so it's official now, but no everything dies with me the face rubbing will die Referring to farts as pets will die You know he my granddaughter refers to farts as toots. You know, doesn't even have the common courtesy to say pets. Right. You know, he's not teaching her right, obviously,

because you know, you gotta say, who let a pet? And she doesn't do that, so. You know, the face rubbing has no chance, because every time I do it, Christopher acts like it's some horrific ritual that I'm going through. And when really it's just like sort of a, almost like a self-gratification quite frankly. That's my point. It seems like something that should be done alone in your bathroom.

No. And you do it on Zoom in front of Dave Barry. Well, you know, I think it's an age thing. You know, I think Dave Barry could relate to it. He's older than I am. I love having guests on my show that are even older than me. He looks younger. He does look younger, you older looks younger It's rare Looks so much younger

That shirt looks like it's 40 Billy said in my ear while Greg was talking that shirts older than anyone in the shipping container and a means in the shipping container That collar has seen better days. I mean, I don't, you know, I don't date my shirts. I have no idea when I bought this, but I will say it's been in my closet a while and I haven't worn it in a while. I hope whatever you like. Judging from the age of that one,

you don't date them, you marry them. Like you've been with that shirt for a long ass time. I remember that shirt walking into a Herald cafeteria and that cafeteria, that building and the Herald no longer exists Shirt still does yeah That shirt I have seen since I was in college really I didn't realize that Technically the Miami Herald still exists by the way

No, I like this shirt personally But no, I like this shirt personally. Yeah, clearly. You've, I mean, I, It's a keeper. You've certainly made that known over the years. But I don't wear it much, you'd admit. I would say that that shirt is something with that age that should, over the course of a lifetime,

turn into a dish rack. Something that you dry plates with. That's an heirloom. Yeah. Thank you, Billy. No, it's a beautiful thing I'll bequeath it to Christopher. He'll turn it into a dishrag but

No, I love it. It has almost like a paisley vibe to me, but what it We said bequeath with a th you won't get any money, but you'll get all my little artifacts and you know curios Look forward to that save the date Of your debt. Yeah artifacts and you know curios look forward to that save the date of your death yeah I haven't decided it yet but save the date this is the Don LeBattor show with the StuGuts podcast today's episode is sponsored by DraftKings stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show.

DraftKings, the crown is yours. I want to ask all of you as this Bill Belichick to North Carolina thing becomes more and more real and I'm sitting here trying to think of times that we've done anything like this. We argue all the time about whether the college guy could make it work in the pros we have not had everything turned so upside down that the greatest football coach any of us have ever heard of doesn't get work in the nfl and wants to call his own dictator terms at north carolina

in such a way that he's being this brazen about the professionalism when he says, quote, let me put this in capital letters. If I was in a college program, if the college program would be a pipeline to the NFL for the players that had the ability to play in the NFL, it would be a professional program. Training, nutrition, scheme, coaching, techniques that would transfer to the NFL, it would be an NFL program at a college level in an education that would get the players ready for their career after football would be a geared toward developing the player time management discipline structure all that that would

be life skills regardless of whether they were in the nfl or somewhere in business i feel very confident that i have the contacts in the nfl to pave the way for those players that would have the ability to compete in the nfl they would be ready before it i have no doubt about that he said this to pat mcafee this is absolutely him recruiting already

like he's saying i'm gonna be saving like you know i've said and got people to the pros that's what i'm going to be nevermind like down pay education college but i'm going to be pipeline to high school kid You want to know how to get to the pros who knows better than I how to get you to the pros He's already in recruiting mode Well, I still want to learn whether this is a real thing that he's negotiating to get a son to replace him I mean Dan the reports are he sat down with the people in charge of making this hire for five hours

Pitch pitching his ideas to North Carolina. I don't think he does that unless he's taking it seriously. But saying this publicly, right here, the last year of Belichick's life, if I'm Belichick, I'm deeply insulted by the sport I love. Insulted that no one will give me a job with what I've done in that league and now I've got to go to North Carolina to negotiate something that's a minor league job while saying a minor league compared to the pros the NFL pros right while saying out loud the thing of I'm worthy and here's why I'm worthy here's why I'm better than all the other college coaches but I want to ask you guys from

a practical perspective when has this happened before? Where a coach, I mean of this magnitude, there aren't many, but just a pro coach is taking a job that's just, it's not one of the best jobs in college football, it's a good job, but it's not one of the best jobs in college football. The idea that Belichick is available to this school, wants to go to this school,

and is out here saying out loud to recruits already This is what I offer if you go to North Carolina I've got a better chance of getting you to real money and Professionalism than anybody else that is working in the sport. But is he right though? Is he right though? I think that a myriad number of teams at the top level of college football are already what he's saying. Look at how many players Georgia has in the NFL right now. Ohio State, Alabama, all the top programs do what he's saying. And my question is, everything is about recruiting in the portal now. Does the Belichick name wow kids who are 18 or 20 years old does a guy that age?

really really impress people he's after as Opposed to wow their parents the same way Dion does okay But Greg if he has the ability and I believe that he does and he has the connections that I believe that he does To get kids to the NFL that's what they care about right? But doesn't every top program offer that same pipeline? But we were just talking about in the NFL, how he just doesn't connect with players anymore, and now he's gonna go to a younger demographic.

Look at all the successful coaches. I know there are outlier old guys, but it's a lot of Dan Lannings. And it's just, it's flashy, but I just feel like one year into a mediocre season with North Carolina, and we're already doing the same conversations about he's just not connecting with these young guys. But college, you're able to coach them

and talk to them in a way that you can't in the pros because all those guys make so much money, like the hell out of here. I mean, they make money in college now, but I'm just saying you still are able to coach college kids harder than you coach pros because at the end of the day, a bunch of them are kids like a year or so removed

from high school and when you walk into those doors, that's one of the things about what Dan is talking about, pro coaches versus college coaches, is that pro coaches sit back and watch college and be like, most of y'all can't coach. That's how pro coaches think about college. Most of you guys can't coach. All you do is recruit and you do rah rah stuff.

So imagine Belichick saying, me with my football IQ and then add on to that. I don't have to worry about feelings as much as I do at the NFL level. But you do now, right? Because if you don't like it, you can leave in a year. No one's tied into being part of any team anymore for any extended period of time.

And even if you do like him, if someone comes with more money, you can go. So you do have to manage the feeling, almost more so than the NFL, where NFL, you're bound by contracts. They can leave one year to the next if they don't like how he's coaching them. He will be more powerless in college

than at any time in the college experience a coach has been powerless and he was able to be the last of the dinosaurs who ran the professional outfit at the highest level in a dictator way that didn't matter whether he connected with the players or not. Charlie Weiss, his disciple, a lot of coaches never forgave him for appearing at Notre Dame and saying at the first press conference, I've got a significant schematic advantage over my other coaches. We've got to assume that every single game that North Carolina will play with this as the coach, they have a significant coaching advantage,

correct? We're going to agree on the front end that whatever it is they bring into the building, the moment it arrives, a leadership and coaching advantage, they will have the biggest one in the sport, correct? Will we agree on that or do we not agree on that? I'll give you defensively. I mean, he might bring in the guy with the pencil

to run his offense again. Patricia, Matt Patricia? Yeah. Guy with the pencil. Yeah. Matt Patricia, guy with the pencil. Yeah. Matt Patricia, that's the kind of executive producing expertise I need. As soon as I said that, you said the name.

Well, I knew exactly what happened. I do love building out his coaching staff because I have Teddy Bruski coaching linebackers at UNC. I mean. Well, Patricia will go with him, right? Like, Patricia's producing him right now, I'm pretty sure. Like, I think Patricia's doing a lot of his production for him for all of his television

Appearances great like his research. No, I mean, it's not uncommon. Adam Gase does that for the Mannings I don't know if that's a secret, but Adam Gase works on the manning cast doing research Wow I think two things about Belichick are fair to say number one. He didn't win without Tom Brady Before in Cleveland and he didn't win without Tom Brady after in New England. The second point I would make is that Bill Belichick is about two seasons, maybe three, from breaking the all-time record for most NFL coaching victories. If you don't think Bill Belichick would rather coach in the NFL, you're crazy. And if he ends up in North Carolina, I guarantee you he has a contract that has an out clause where he can leave in the middle of a game if

he wants to if he has an offer from the NFL. So Greg don't you think part of this is a message to the NFL like hey if you want me come get me right now I think because I'm dead serious about taking this job. Absolutely, 100%. Put it on the poll please at LeBataard Show did you know that Adam Gase was a researcher on the Manning cast? I also saw in honor of what I thought was a rare thing, Anderson Cooper having a name that his first name is also a last name and his last name is also a first name

and I was saying that that is a rare thing. But it's also true of Matt Patricia. Matt Patricia's first name is first name and a last name and his last name is a first name and a last name. But his first name can't be a last name. There's not many Matt's. There's not like a Greg Matt. Right, his first name is a first name,

his last name is a first name. Austin Matthews. And a last name. So there are no Matt's, there are no last name. In the history of sports, we have never had running around out there someone who's just simply named Matt on the last name. No, Al Matt.

No, it just doesn't exist. But Matt Patricia's first name probably is Matthew. So technically, I think you're right. There's nobody named Matthew with the last name. Matthew's with an S, yes. Matty Matthews. No, totally different. Oh no, I think there's singular Matthews.

Name one. You know, I can't offhand, but that doesn't mean there aren't Matty Matthews. Are you singular? No, totally different. Oh no, I think there's singular Matthews. Name one. You know, I can't offhand, but that doesn't mean there aren't. How about Matthews? Not gonna take a quiz. I mean, just like there's McDaniels and McDaniel. You know, there's Matthews and Matthew. But we can name McDaniel.

Travis Matthew. There you go. How about that? Boom. That's the honey bed. Yeah. Perfect. Can we do something here? David Sampson is roaming and patrolling the premises here

and he's got more Juan Soto stuff. A lot of people appeared yesterday for his Juan Soto stuff and we did not get too much of his Juan Soto stuff. Right now he's in another room preparing for a game show. We're going to debut today and I want to ask you guys The premise will be fairly obvious, but I want to ask you guys Which is the better sound to start this with should we call it? this should we

Is it human or should we call it this right here? Is he human? What should be the name of the game? Should it be is it human or is he human? I gotta say, I think we gotta play the game first and after the game is over we realize whether it's an it or a he. How am I supposed to play the opening imaging

if we don't know which one we're done with? At the end he's saying, he's saying once we're done with it. We'll determine it, which is how metal arc does things I think there's another obvious alternative which we don't have us all yelling If you want to include females women as well, it should be are they human, right? Okay, but we're playing it with just David Sampson It's just him and so now unless you've made him transgender are they human doesn't really work Okay, but is he human right? I don't want to play the pronoun game with you I'm just doing he or it those are your choices not surprising to me that the face rubber would go off the board

That's what he does. I go it I Think is it human is better But we're gonna get to that game show in a second. Is David Sampson available right now, Chris, to just get bonus Soto stuff? I want to get all the things that we got wrong yesterday on Soto. I think at one point I accidentally made him a right-handed hitter.

So David Sampson was being bothered that he wasn't allowed to speak during our segment because he had more and better information than we did. Is he available right now? He's about to be. I'm being told very shortly, so keep filling. Okay, thank you. That would have been better to have prepared

at the start of the show because, you know, we start pretty much at nine o'clock every day. David does the show right up until 850. Right, right, and it ends at 850, yes. 10 minutes before we start, so he should be ready. I wanna go back. It should be ready. Well to go back it should be ready well said

it's a bit it's got to be is it human right we've spent years saying he's a robot he's all wires and all that he's not a he he's in it is it human that's my boat okay uh... so we will get to that game in a second but i don't see that david i seem in the preview but i don't see that he's got his head said on i don't know if he can hear me or not. So, David, just tell me right now, getting started, tell me what it is that we got wrong yesterday on Juan Soto.

What new information has become available in the last 24 hours that makes this even more interesting than it was yesterday, that he's going to the Mets. Oh, there are some tremendous excuses going on now between teams. Let's start with the Yankees. Word has leaked out that it wasn't about the $760 million. That's not the reason why Soto left the Yankees. It's because he was unhappy with the family room because his people got stopped by security. And on top of that, he wanted a luxury suite

and the Yankees wouldn't give him one without him paying for it. Can you imagine that? That Juan Soto couldn't buy a luxury suite with 760 million. Guess what? It's happened to me before. Here's what you do. You raise your offer, and you make the player buy the suite

so you can tell Aaron Judge and Derek Jeter that we stuck to our principles, that we didn't give a suite to Juan Soto. He bought one. I don't know why the Yankees didn't do that. As for the family room, what a crock of crap. There's security. If you don't have a credential, you don't get through. You're telling me that Juan Soto was so upset by a family room issue that he chose to leave the Yankees. It's a bunch of excuse making in order to try to sully

Soto. And I don't think we should be sulling him. We should be celebrating that right-handed hitter. And I don't think we should be sulling him. We should be celebrating that right-handed hitter. What else did we get wrong yesterday? What in our analysis was incorrect to you while we didn't let you talk? Not human. I'm definitely not, I'm a he. So that's the game.

And I was ready the whole time, Dan. Just the fact that you couldn't see or hear, I was ready, ready to play. Whatever it is that you couldn't see or hear, I was ready. Ready to play. Whatever it is that you want to do that Chris Cody brought to me in the middle of a live show and wondered why I hadn't responded and then you texted me saying, I think your show is over, you ought to be responding now. I've been here waiting.

Okay, answer my question please. You don't even remember it. I know what your question is, what else did we miss in our great analysis of yesterday's show where it was all spent on college football? Here's where you got wrong, is why aren't we spending the time celebrating A, what the Mets are doing and thinking,

are they gonna spend the money on Pete Alonso? And you started to let me talk and then you went past it and David Stearns met the media yesterday night and confirmed it that they may go after Pete Alonso because he's gotten some big hits for the Mets. Do you know what that's code for? We're not getting Pete Alonso because if you were you would not present it as oh that's a player we'd be interested in because he has had some good hits for us. You would say, we're going to get Pete Alonso because we want him to protect the great Juan Soto.

But I would look for the Mets to bring in a pitcher. What other reporting over the last 24 hours has gotten your attention? How much of your show today, Nothing Personal, did you devote to the Soto aftermath? About the first 26 minutes, Dan. There were a lot of teams during the winter meetings who were talking, so what we did is we went around to our top markets. Nothing personal, there's a breakdown

of who's listening to the show, and we made sure we hit on those cities. So we talked about the Cubs and White Sox because we're pretty big in Chicago. We talked about the Cardinals. One of our top 10 cities is St. Louis. We talked about New York, both Yankees and Mets. And of course, you gotta work in some Dodgers

and some Bill Belichick to end the show because everybody likes talking anything Patriots related. I really wasn't looking for a rundown of your show. I was looking for- He really overthinks this thing. I was looking for what Soto information you have that is new because people are still talking about Soto. I don't want you to review or preview

the show you did on Nothing Personal already that we were very busy interrupting evidently. No one cares about your top market. Yeah, I mean no one cares about that. In fact, you know what? Just turn his microphone off. I'm gonna keep it in here for a while. You wanted to go to him.

No, I did wanna go to him. No, I did want to go to him. I wanted a specific thing from him, not what his top markets were on nothing personal. We're very big in Chicago. I don't care where he's very big. I was asking him a question about Soto, not his strategic laser-like focus on getting more listeners in Chicago. I don't care about his podcast and content strategy. I just cared about talking about Juan Soto. Lock him back up in that room. We'll come back to him in a second.

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This is the Don LeBathard Show with the Stugats. The thing I wanted to talk with Amin about here, Stugatz, because there are some stats coming out. I don't know how Amin, how interested he's been in the evolution of the Miami Heat that have Bam Adebayo struggling with finding his role, but Tyler Hero having no such issues. He is playing all-star basketball the the numbers he's putting up okay when you look at twenty four five and five and nine threes a game

it's luca it's tatum it's limo and tyler's the only one shooting over forty percent from three on all of those like he's having an all-star season and i want to revisit what it is that i was talking about a long time ago as i watch portland boot off its own court losing at home by forty to utah they could use tyler hero evidently everyone's mocking me about what tyler hero is because i'm saying i don't think there's a lot of difference between hero and maxi

and these numbers are they not going to put hero in the all-star game if he stays healthy above maxi like is is he not going to be viewed as a player whose numbers are better than maxi when maxis asked to cut to carry the team uh... without joelle and without paul george you see up of the higher usage rate and a less efficient player tyler hero hasn't been healthy and he is the third player on this team but there's clearly an evolution

offensively both in the game and the way the heater doing things that it seems to me ameen is up pushing bam off to the side when they need bam to also be an all-star they can't have bam doing the small offensive games but they need all of the stuff bam does defensively so there's there's a change in the way the heater doing business because the way they were doing with these players against the celtics was not going to work so they're going through hero more than they're going through bam now the way they were doing it is so that's when was it was when when hero was more

obviously the third option and we were going one two three with hero is the third option and now that's changed a little in just the way they're doing business all all of it is meant to to evolve with what it is that they have, otherwise they've got to change it. They've got to change the pieces if they don't get more out of the pieces they have. Yes, that last sentence absolutely. To say it wasn't working against Celtics, I kind of disagree. They beat the Celtics. I'm just saying what happened in the bubble at the rim, the difference

between these teams was at the rim, Tatum against BAM. That's no longer the difference between these teams. There's a gulf between these teams now. But to say that it didn't work, I think is an incorrect statement. That's all I'm pointing out. I don't think it didn't work. I think it worked.

And matter of fact, they met the Celtics, what, three times in the conference finals and beat them twice. Some would say what the Celtics was doing wasn't working against Miami, but that's neither here nor there. The point is what you're saying is that the dynamics have changed, and I think part of that is, first of all, the ceiling of the team is much higher

when Bam is your best player. The problem is, how long are they going to have to wait for Bam to play like he's their best player? And what I mean by that is, there's an assertiveness you have to be in order to be their best player. And what I mean by that is there's an assertiveness you have to be in order to be the best player. Twenty years ago, twenty-five years ago, there was a discussion, who's the best power forward in the game?

And these were the names people said and did not bat a night. Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Chris Weber, Dirk Nowitzki, Rashid Wallace. Rashid Wallace was in that list. Everyone, all those guys knew it. Everyone around the league knew it. Rashid Wallace is one of the five best power forwards in the game right now. He was the basketball player's basketball player.

People loved his game. But almost to a fault. When I say Rashid Wallace to the casual person, it's like, oh, it's because he was always getting technical fouls and stuff. That's not what Rashid Wallace is undoing, or not even undoing, it's just what limited him. What limited him was he was

the basketball player's basketball player. He wanted to be one of the guys. He had the talent, the skill, the IQ to be an absolute monster, and he's like, wait, wait, wait, the basketball's a five-man game, and I just wanna set screens, and I just wanna be one of the guys, and average about 16 points a game.

And that's what he did, and when he got to Detroit, it was exactly what they needed. But Rashid Wallace, talent wise, skill wise, IQ wise, was every bit the equal of Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett. They never got at any point that monster, that selfishness of like, I don't give a damn, give me the ball, get out of my way. 25 years later, I look at Bam out of bio

and I think the same thing. I'm like, man, when he turns into a jack hole, because we can't say the other word, when he turns into a real jack hole. I feel like we can say the other word. No we can't, we're on peacock. You don't want peacock next to the jack hole. Let's just not.

All right, so if Bam were to unlock that and turn into a real selfish MF, we're like, give me the damn ball, get out of my way, I'm not settling for jump shots, I'm not just pitching it back out. I am the offense, that's when the heat, and that's the progression we've been waiting for for the last three years, where Jimmy said,

well this is Bam's team. That was the progression we're waiting for. Up in Cleveland, they've got a guy, Evan Mobley, where they're doing the same thing. He's a really talented, player tough great defensive player but he hasn't taken that leap and they need that leap in order to get to where they really want to be. You saw with Cleveland the other night when they came to Miami they had lost only three times this year Mobley plays 12 minutes they lose

against Miami immediately when Miami hasn't beaten a team of Pedigree all season before this unless you consider the Lakers and whatever they brought down here to be something of pedigree. But your contention on where it is that Hiro is in his evolution and if I put him next to Maxi and say to you, these two players are pretty similar, are they not, you disagree with that? I mean, if you ask me, Gun to My Head,

which is one of my favorite games, you guys do like Gun to My Head, right? Yeah, I taught it to you. Thank you. Gun to My Head, Maxie or Hero, I'm taking Maxie, right? Because I've seen Maxie approximate the aggression and the scoring within success. What I've seen Hero is, hey, when I'm asking you

to be part of a good team, you're down here. Now that we've kind of unleashed you and now it's everything about you, yes, your numbers are great, team success, eh. We're a middling team. So I don't know that, I think there's a trade-off for every player. How much of me can I be while still helping the team when and if you're really good a lot of times like

as good as i am as i get a team is and we keep going up like lebron steph curry those guys it's limitless but for a lot of lesser players there is a line where okay i could be even better my numbers could be even stronger but that's not going to help the team we talked about this with dwayne way during those last year when i was saying, look,

I get you guys love him and everything, but this season, that season turned into how can we make Dwayne Wade still look dominant? And you can, but wins won't come along with it anymore. Let's not make the heat out to be a team that's only beaten the Cavaliers as their only signature win. They have beaten Minnesota, they have beaten the Dallas Mavericks, they've beaten some good teams. All right, they're 12 and 10,

they've lost some bad games this season, they've lost at home, they've lost to Milwaukee without Yonich, but yes, thank you, you are right. Minnesota's just okay. Minnesota's a bit lost this year, but okay, fair enough. The Heat are also out of the NBA Emirates Cup, so. Yeah! Ooh.

Billy, you must be excited today because we have a guest from The Masked Singer joining us today. Oh, spoiler alert. Ooh. Yeah. But we haven't said who the guest is. We just said we have a guest.

We didn't spoil it. We just teased what's coming up later in the show. There was nothing spoiled other than a guest from The Masked Singer is going to join us. Okay. It could be anybody. It could be Ken Jeong. It could be, but when the guest comes on,

if people aren't caught up and you say this person was on the mass Singer we won't tell them that they want we have multiple guests a day. It could be any guest It could be Diana Rossini. Hmm who's not coming on today, so it's not her. I Mean, I think there's a larger question in terms of the heat ESPN which loves rankings Just ranked every team's core every team's big three and the heats partly because of butler's age was ranked what i thought was stunningly low like 19th my question is jimmy bam tyler hero are you going to be anything but but pretty good with that like can you challenge for a champion don't they

have to like blow this up trade jim Jimmy do something to like really restart this thing Is there anything on adding on to that? I mean is there anything that they're doing offensively that you see in what it is the evolution of this is That makes it so that while Tyler hero is this good BAM's been the worst him We've seen like this is not BAM has not been Statistically the player that he's been the last three years. I'm confused sometimes when I'm watching and he's doing next to nothing out there offensively even though he's always great defensively. Are you seeing something

in the structure that makes it so that they are making Tyler Hero, they're not making it so that Tyler Hero and Bam can both be all-stars at the same time he's initiating offense here the ball is going through hero and Bam is kind of off to the side and As a result, obviously, he's not getting the touches. He was getting he was not he's not getting the opportunities He was getting before but again, I think that also comes down to You had your chance, right? Like We've been waiting for you to come and seize these reigns and say it's my team at this I'm I'm gonna be Yannis's peer and Tyler's not waiting He's not

This is an oversimplification, but it's also a math problem BAM. You're not gonna shoot threes. It's gonna be mid Rangers Okay, Tyler hero nine threes a game. We're gonna change the way that we're doing this offensively but then he can hit he can take mid ranges if he weren't excellent mid-range shooter we would mind the promise he's an ok mid-range you to meet me should take a couple game but everything for bam should be around the basket is should be dominant around the basket he's not he's kind of reddison around there and so what ends up happening is he settles for these mid-range jumpers which he's good

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I want to do a stat of the day here before we go back to David Sampson that I found fairly shocking. Start of the day, start of the day, in this year's start of the day. Start of the day, start of the day, in this year's start of the day. Start of the day, start of the day, in this year's start of the day. Start of the day, start of the day, and this is the start of the day. Start of the day, start of the day, and this is the start of the day. This is from Matt Warren on Twitter.

OJ Simpson is a pro football hall of fame running back. He has 61 rushing touchdowns. Terrell Davis has 60, he's a hall of famer. Josh Allen is 28 years old. He's got 62 rushing touchdowns and 190 passing touchdowns and a couple of receiving touchdowns as well. That is crazy. I couldn't believe that.

And here's a partial list of people that Josh Allen has more rushing touchdowns than McCaffrey? Hmm. Come on, seriously? More than McCaffrey? Jamal Lewis Herschel Walker Warwick done like these are these are great running backs and Josh Allen Casually like if you're if you're winning with in a salary cap sport in the margins with the money And you've got a guy who's also your running back when he's your quarterback and you're paying

one position to get quarterback and you're paying one position two positions worth of productivity you change the architecture of your team when you can do that lamar jackson when you can build around lamar jackson and josh allen you can save all sorts of money on on running back

i don't know uh... chris cody said yesterday of the bills they don't stop anyone running the ball so that det game is gonna be super interesting because Detroit runs which choice a running team I know people think of them as Jared Goff and and you know spread the offense around in 300 yard passing games But they are rushing team. They don't throw the ball in the top half of the league They're in the bottom half of the league throwing the football. To your point with the Bills and Josh Allen rushing James Cook, who is their primary back, is making just over a million dollars this year. Like you're right. It definitely changes how you put together your roster from that standpoint when you have a guy who is both your quarterback and your primary ball handler in terms of being a running back. That's insane,

but there's one thing that you left off josh allen's resume and it's a ring and i fear that because he's playing at the same time as patrick mahomes josh allen and he's being coached by that lousy coach of buffalo i believe that josh allen might be one of those guys who never gets a ring because patrick mahomes is playing at the same time but i i what i did say is 28 years old. He's got 10 more years to pile up those numbers.

I make fun of Bill Polian for not knowing that Lamar Jackson was a quarterback. I will remind you that I said Josh Allen will be terrible forever at quarterback. That's some bad analysis right there. Once I saw him in a playoff game, throw into double coverage deep onto a fullback, I'm like, that can't win in the NFL.

You can't in a playoff game throw 40 yards downfield to a double covered fullback. In Stugats's defense to your 28 years old for Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes 29 years old. So I mean if you do think that Patrick Mahomes is going to hog all the championships and prevent Josh then he could do so. They're on the same timeline. I don't think that then he could do, they're on the same timeline. I don't think that's gonna happen, but they're on the same timeline. It seems in terms of body though,

just watching the games and the way that the Chiefs have to win, you tell me that Mahomes isn't aging faster than Josh Allen is. Something's up in Kansas. Just physically. What are you saying? Just physically.

I don't agree with that. He's moving slower. He's moving slower. He's moving slower through your secondary than he used to. Josh Allen seems to be gathering steam. Speaking of the Chiefs, did you guys see Dylan Riola at the Chiefs game? Yeah, it's an embarrassment. An embarrassment?

I thought you would love this. So Dylan Riola, the college quarterback who looks suspiciously like Mahomes. By choice, by the way. And acts like him. He is, whatever that movie was in the 90s, single white female, he is married black quarterback. So I loved it when Nebraska was three and oh, four and oh,

but you can't continue with the act when you're that bad. He doesn't know if this is the peak of his life right now. You've got to milk, I thought you would understand this more than anyone. You've got to milk this thing for everything it's worth. Absolutely go to Chiefs games and sign autographs kid. Knock yourself out. Well, for those of you who don't know who he is,

he's Nebraska's quarterback. He also cause plays as Patrick Mahomes on his free time. He dresses like him, he wears the same sunglasses, gets the same haircut. Earlier in the season when Nebraska was good, he was doing the same celebration, the same warm-up routine. He was doing everything to be Patrick Mahomes.

And then Nebraska kind of stunk. And then he disappeared for a while. Until Sunday, for whatever reason, where Dylan Raiola, who plays for Nebraska and seemingly has no connection to the Kansas City Chiefs whatsoever, was at the Chiefs game on the field signing autographs for fans. Also wears the same number by the way. Same number too, yeah.

Well, and it's physically trying to look like him. Right. And act like him, yeah. It is blatant copycatting to get sort of the fame that one gets spilling over the side of whatever it is that Patrick Mahomes has in fame. He's trying to mimic him. It's the old meme, we've got Patrick Mahomes at home. Patrick Mahomes at home is Dylan Riola.

It's honestly like a worse job of chief security than it is of Yankee security, keeping Juan Soto's family away from like the free food or whatever. Like the fact that they let Dylan Riola anywhere near Patrick Mahomes is kind of insane So he just went to the Chiefs game to sign autographs as the guy who looks like the Chiefs quarterback Okay, but here's the thing signing him as Patrick Here's the thing right is that there are people probably the thought that that might have been Patrick Mahomes and they were getting his autograph

He's signing Chief's fan gear, like he's signing the Chief's logo, he's signing Chief's t-shirts. People think that that's him. I thought we stopped with autographs in general, I thought the autograph had been replaced by the selfie, but let's put up real quick an accusation that's getting all over the country right now.

You got people accusing Stugatz of not signing his own book after promising people he was going to sell them a copy of his own book and the signature looks like a stamp of some sort. I signed them man. Fine point Sharpie. Damn fine marker that's not fine point. No it is a fine point yeah I bought ten packs of them fine point Sharpie right there. That's a thick fine point right there. Okay, but is that a real signature? Because it looked like a stamp,

and I'm asking you because some people are wondering whether it's a real signature or not. It is a real signature. I got these inserts in the mail. There were thousands of them, and so I appreciate everyone buying the book. It was a pre-order deal. I signed every single one of them

and sent them back to Random House. Raise your hand if you're surprised that the S isn't backwards in StuGuts. Or a money sign. It should just be the S should be a money sign. He needs to change his signature. That should be the S in Soto's last name. I mean, seriously.

If he doesn't do that, you gotta sink in to be in a billionaire, don't you? I mean. That's a good idea. Not the bouncer. He's a quarter away from being, he's three quarters of the way. Not to jump around too much, but did you guys see that Nick Tertura has another video about Juan Soto?

No way. Well let's see the original Nick Tertura video to cleanse the palate here and just end with Samson and Soto talk. This was just great. I've gotta think that John Turturro is terribly embarrassed by all of this. Ha ha ha ha.

Hey, Juan Soto, I got two words for you. F*** you, that's right. F*** you and the horse you rode in on and the cavalry behind you. That's right, mother f***. Yeah, I'm taking it personal. We gave you our love. We gave you our f*** heart and soul. It wasn't enough. You turned your cap around after the World Series. I saw that move.

700 million, 730. Yeah, it wasn't enough. It wasn't enough. Guaranteed years. It wasn't enough. You don't even choose the Dodgers. You don't even choose the Dodgers go off-roadway to the match. You don't want to be on Broadway, and you don't want to be judges guy. You don't want to be judges partner. Oh, that's right, judge. Now it's your team, that's it, let's stick it up his f***ing ass, that's right, let's go out, let's get Burns freed, Bregman, let's f***ing Teasca, I don't give a f***, now we're not f***ing around, take those f***ing grungy whatever those f***ing, oh those stupid Mets. A rational human being who keeps sports in the frame.

I love the chucking of the bat at the end of it. It sounds so good. Can you guys get me video? Can you just freeze frame the most rabidly crazed that he looks at any time? Just freeze frame it for me because it is rabid rabid rage. He's got a new video out. Let's see what else Nick Titoro is doing That he is doing on video that I'm sure Embarrasses his brother John to Turo. All right. I had some time to think about this kind of let it settle in

You know, I understand it's a business. I do I understand at the end of the day. It's like show business But you know what you wanted to be a Yankee you wanted to be part of this pinch-stripe Tradition you got to wear it. You got to go to the World Series Yes, you helped even though you can't catch a fucking fly ball for you know, whatever but We took you in and what you were a little butthurt over some Personal disgruntled shit it happens. You don't wanna be second fiddle. You don't wanna play next to Judge because it's Judge.

This is the Yankees. Judge came up a Yankee. He's the captain. That's what you signed up for. Reggie came here, Thurman was the captain, but Reggie helps get us over the top. You were part of something here. Yeah, and you shun us, you shun us,

it's like Michael Corleone, alright? Michael Corleone, you went out with him and you shunned him for Fredo. You left for Fredo. You're a joke, my friend. And any other Yankee fan that's congratulating him on his contract, you're soft, brother, you're soft. You come here and then you turn

and you go to the dumps of Queens, even though I'm from Queens I don't like Nick and son. I mean, I don't like when he has time to think about stuff Dan you have John to Turo being ashamed. I've got John Turturro being the guy holding the camera. Really? Directing. Huh. ["MILLER TIME"]

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