The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Bill Belichick’s North Carolina Tar Heels

Episode Date: December 12, 2024

Today's Cast: Dan, David, Chris, Roy, Tony, Mike, Jess. That might be our cast, but the real star of the show is Taylor, who ran circles around Adam Schefter on the scoop that Bill Belichick is becoming the head coach at the University of North Carolina. That guy at Flanigan's who told Dan "less Taylor" is going to be mad because Taylor unleashes a rant on all of us to celebrate the program he walked on at hiring the greatest coach in NFL history. As Taylor continues to celebrate, the rest of the crew breaks down the hire and shares in disbelief that we’ve reached a point where Belichick can take a college job and have people doubt his ability to do a good job at it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Shadowing it. Shadow in it. One of the reasons around here that we have been proud to help in the investing in talent and media building business is because we've gotten to see people like Pablo Torre and Mena Keims and Bomani Join us and then skyrocket to new things It's one of the reasons that Samson is with us now and Tony and Jessica so you can have another career That gets bigger as you go that can use metal arc or can be bigger than metal arc Have we had around here? Any days that we can live back-to to back vicariously through someone's success

better than Mina Kimes being a figure who was on The Simpsons one day and then the next day announcing that Netflix she's part of their Christmas Day NFL package because she's got freedom outside of ESPN to work on other properties. I'm so happy for success, but I think I was also named to Netflix's NFL coverage. They have two games, and there's like 130 people on one graphic. I would not diminish what it is Mina has accomplished there. I'm not diminishing it either. It's just a lot of people. He makes a good point. A lot of people have noticed, there's a lot of people involved in the NFL Netflix thing, and it's two games.

Lorenzo's on it. Bert Kreischer's on it. But it's a top 100 important people who matter on Christmas Day around football thing, and you can't diminish it just because we're not on it, and she is. I swear to God. So many luck.

When I first saw the graphic, I thought it was like a Forbes list of up and coming media people because there were so many people on it, and then I first saw the graphic, I thought it was like a Forbes list of like up and coming media people because there were so many people on it. And then I saw the Netflix logo. I'm like, wait a second, this is for two games? I was making fun of her because I thought

the Simpsons scrubbed the ethnicity out of her. Like her cartoon, it looked like Orlovski. Hmm, well, no, there are pretty hard rules when it comes to that in the in Springfield I don't want to get into it and you should not either I didn't want to get into it But here we are nonetheless because I thought these two nothing Well, we I thought they were two nice days and now we've ruined them with our analysis Like I thought that they're two biggest days that anyone around us has ever had back-to-back in terms of media

Accomplishments back-to-back days you're talking about Taylor around us has ever had back to back in terms of media accomplishments back to back days you're talking about taylor well let's talk about taylor for a second because you've been wanting scoops please call him scoops you've been wanting to make him a star and i'm reluctant so let's just start no no i'm not i'm not gonna give him shadow show this is main show bright lights no let's die that's why i was just settle down all right he's a star settle down we're settle down he kicked adam schrefter's ass. I'm settled This is the down labor tour show with this two guys podcast Today's episode is sponsored by DraftKings stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show

DraftKings the crown is yours. Before we get to Tua's home security, Jimmy Butler and all the sports stuff of the day, including Bill Belichick, I just want to put a bit of metal art tension business in front of the people. David Sampson is here. He's in the innards of our business because it needs a vigorous janitorial scrubbing, the innards of our financial business. And when the corporate people start doing the focus groups what comes back to me is some form of too many voices yet too many voices on the show focus groups too many voices are too many people talking

and my grinds out here saying give me more taylor while i'm going to flanagan's and someone saying to me less taylor mike ryan is insistent on making taylor a star i don't feel he's any kind of while I'm going to Flanagan's and someone's saying to me, less Taylor. Mike Ryan is insistent on making Taylor a star. I don't feel he's any kind of special, but what he has is an arrogance, an arrogance about him that makes him think

that when North Carolina gets Belichick, he wants to do a rant. He wants the entirety of the show to do a rant. And I'm like, who are you? Not the entirety of the show, Dan a rant and I'm like, who are you? Not the entirety of the show, Dan. He just wants some shine. A segment. There was nobody more plugged into the biggest story maybe in the history of college football. And you just want to poo poo that.

One guy comes up to you at Flanagan's and you make your whole mind up. Dork, by the way. And then, by the way, ten days later, Taylor's the biggest insider in the sport. Well, let's get to the story because he did tell all of us and he was casually breaking news around the office. He did have this before everybody that the most successful professional coach ever was making the shocking leap into the minor leagues of football by going to a program that's not even one of the better programs that anyone would associate with great football. This is one of the biggest scoops of all time.

And I think as a reward, we should also, look, you're giving your own company a reward there. You want to tout the success of others like Mina. Taylor's right there. He's a star that is ascending. You should give him some mic time. I've had the show polluted by college football. Jessica only wants to talk about bowl season starts Saturday.

The playoffs start Saturday as far as Jessica's concerned. No, I want to talk about Bill Belichick going to UNC with Taylor, Dan. You're not going to poison this room against one another. We all want to hear from Taylor today. Well, I don't know where he is. Bowl season can wait. OK, I don't know where he is, but fine.

Can he do the rant? Let's do a victory. No, not the rant. He can do a victory. No, not the rant You can do a rant. Hit him! A rant? Dan Leviton You put air quotes around me as a Carolina insider after I told you specifically Freddie kitchens was coaching UNC in the Fenway Bowl You heard the word kitchen and stop listening to everything I said after.

Yeah! Get his ass! So this is the story. Give it to me again! I told you this was done and finalized. Adam Schefter said there were still hurdles. Schefter, that ink was dry and the only hurdles were the one I was leaping over as I ran circles around you! He did, he did run circles around Schefter. Where was Mike's hand during that? I don't know what you're talking about.

That's the only way that Taylor appears anywhere in my life. He's a megacircus! Oh my God! SMU! That's the only way that Taylor appears anywhere in my life is the way He's a Megasaur give it to him again SMU you invented cheating in football and didn't win shit our head coach Perfected it and won six Super Bowls Amazing core strength. I'm pretty sure that That Taylor didn't want Bill Belichick in North Carolina even as he was breaking the news. Give it to him again!

ESPN, the four biggest letters in sports, got scooped on the biggest college football story of all time by someone living in Miami's smallest studio apartment! It's not affordable to make a media career here. It's just not. smallest It's not affordable to make a media career here It's just not not a lot of options and is no it is not a great place for media Uprising bella check is going to try and dominate that sport or just hand over a program to his son I don't know. I want to get into the details of that

Doing it and leviton you tried to bring your school down I only lift my school up together like the Phoenix from the ashes Rising as one the only way Miami could lift you is with a forklift It's a sham pill grandstand you like a forklift! Oh! Come on. Those champs hell-grabs, man. Jessica, you like that forklift joke a little too much. Jessica, I'm shocked by your fat-shaming. He's got more, Dan.

He's got more money back! Duke football, welcome back to another decade of irrelevance! I can't believe that Jessica piled on with the fat shaming. I thought the lowest I would stoop this week is when I claimed that people, that if David Sampson got off an elevator with a woman, she would ask where his parents were. I thought that that was the cheapest, lowest,

least subtle joke told this week. Believe me, there is no end to your low lack of subtlety. Does he have any more? Again! Dave Claussen, what are you still doing here? UNC's mascot is a ram with big balls, and now their head coach is the goat with even bigger balls! Very good. I can't wait till he plays against the slow mesh. I am looking forward to Belichick against Cristobal.

That should be a... Did you say Mario Cristobal? Mario Cristobal and whatever's left of life wallet. Best of luck against Bill Bleepin Belichick and his giant throbbing 20 million dollar endowment! Alright, he's a walk on at North Carolina football, that's where all his information comes from.

Stop saying walk on like a slur. What if that sounds like a slur? Where were you a walk on at? No where. The Sizzler. That's another food joke. Another one. Five minutes in.

Stop listening to his kitchen. That's another food joke. Another one. Five minutes in. I stopped listening at Kitchen. I did. I stopped listening at Kitchen. Sizzler's delightful. I will not have you shame me about loving Sizzler. Forklift jokes, I think, are a little far. Two more times!

Two more. Our mascot's name is Ramseese ACC. Just wait until Bill Belichick rams D's and it's all captured on a ring camera for the entire nation to watch. Your red hot going in, Tim. I have to find where I was. He's reading from notes and he's screaming. Brett Key, you better lock every door at practice

and throw away that key because Bill Belichick is strolling into town! He ran out of gas. There's so much spit on my microphone. All right, enough. Thank you for all of your contributions to Metal Arch Media. The story in front of us, David,

is unlike any that I have ever had context for in my career. So, I want you guys to walk me through something that I have found confusing. The greatest coach in the history of football was available to everybody and the pros did not want him for a variety of reasons. It had to do with personnel, to you didn't win without Tom Brady, you want too much power, etc., etc. But that coach then goes to North Carolina and what breaks out is an argument where I am seeing the polar extremes of the argument being expressed very confidently on both sides, where people feel like they know coaching and the new college football enough to assert with conviction

on both ends. There's no way this can work or he's going to run over everybody. And so I'm confused how this person is available to this program. He's going to go in with Mike Lombardi. He's gonna go in with whatever he's got of professional Patriots way and be like, let's go Ryan Day. What do you have?

You wanna see what it's like to build a corporation in the business of football? I've done that as a football coach. So I think he's gonna go down there and conquer. But I'm stunned by the number of people on the other side who are like Too old game has passed him by and they're just as strong in their opinion as I am here There is no way that we know and I'm gonna tell you why the 20 million which you just sort of threw away That's a big he has a payroll. He's going in with the GM. He's going in with the payroll, and he's basically forming a pro team.

So that's what we should be talking about is what is the reaction that college sports, it's not college sports anymore. I mean, Jessica's now gonna be the expert in pro sports because there's no reason. It already is, David, it already is pro sports. What just happened? He has a full organization, Dan.

When Andrew Luck comes and takes over as a middle manager for Stanford and we are watching these things become these multimillion dollar businesses in front of us bill bella jack just said okay you know what i get to do with the end of my career i'll just be bob craft i'll be bob craft it's not i'm not gonna watch his documentary about how he won those super bowl how he and tom brady no i'll build my own shit here i'll give

it to my son and i'll give family football legacy to my son when I hand it over it's such a balls move in your seventies to say I don't need the last fourteen NFL wins to pass Shula I'm gonna build my own empire down here in the minor leagues of business because I've won the major leagues of this business. Balls move indeed I think what people are reacting to Dan is the fact that you could think of any quote unquote sure fire hire in college football over the last 20 years balls move indeed. I think what people are reacting to, Dan, is the fact that you could think of any

quote unquote sure fire hire in college football over the last 20 years. A lot of them don't work out. It's impossible to predict who will or will not be a good college football head coach. There's a million things that go into it. And so doubting that someone who's never done it before, especially in this new era of NIL and the transfer portal,

could possibly not be good at it. I think it's like, you're probably more better off guessing that than saying, oh, he's going to be awesome and great. Because it just doesn't happen that often. It's a hard job. It doesn't happen that often, but it has never happened ever that this person is

available to a college program. And so when I tell you- Ilwash, that- Oh, remember Gruden to the U? We capitalized the U in Gruden. With Jay Gruden as a succession plan. I actually don't remember that. Oh, I was ready to throw a parade.

We'll get to Gruden in a second, and Gruden's polo and Gruden's bar stool career as well. But for Bill Belichick, if I were to just simply say to you, polo and gruden's part of bar stool career as well for bill bellacheck if if i were to just simply say to you nevermind what you've seen over the last five years that might confuse you about college football business and also my confusion about hey who should get the patriot's credit on that is a belichick is a praise the craft like

is that transferable because it wasn't transferable to any of the assistance but can bill belichick just take that with him if i just say to any of you hey guys how good do you think bill belichick will be competing with twenty million dollars at football twenty million dollar payroll and whatever it is that he's gonna now raise because dion sanders has made colorado a money-making machine so

surely that money dairy is gonna pour all sorts of money into yeah i want to be texas to what do you say to me when i say to you i'm giving bill bellacheck twenty million dollars to compete at football with a bunch of other people who have only twenty million dollars at the business of football do you think he's going to be okay in building whatever needs to be built there to run a twenty million dollar business successfully a

twenty million dollar payroll successfully wouldn't most of you say he'll figure out what needs to be figured out to be to be smarter than Mario Cristobal. Yeah to be look I think he he enters whatever people may believe about Bill Belichick and his record without Tom Brady, I would say that knowing the level of coaching in that sport, they roll into most games with a sizable tactical advantage with Bill Belichick there. And I think a lot of people are doubting his ability to recruit talent. This is all about talent accumulation in this sport.

He won his eighth Super Bowl five years ago. All the kids that he's recruiting right now know him to be the single greatest coach by a wide margin. He doesn't have the wins record, I get that, but he's the greatest coach of all time. I don't think it's gonna be an issue and as Taylor touched on we're talking about Bill Belichick. The guy secretly taped Super Bowl practices, deflated footballs. He's going to be working 20 hours a day to win. He taught Nick Saban everything he knows. He's crazy.

He's going to be perfectly fine in this seedy underworld of college football. And he's financed. The only issue is in those finances and him being the person who's going to be pulling the strings and all this guy deserves this, this guy deserves that. He hasn't had a great track record the last like 10 maybe 15 years of getting free agents and making them worth the money that he paid them. His talent evaluation has not been great. Yes, I hear that. I keep hearing that especially from Miami fans. He just has to open up 247 sports, see how they've ranked the guys, and then he walks into a room and after he flirts with the players mom he'll get them to commit what what I'm telling her look

David Sampson just made the point of Bill Walsh Bill Walsh did coach at Stanford and Bill Walsh was fine and innovative but he didn't conquer everything I'm asking when you mentioned and he's financed I'm asking about the money opportunity that Bill Belichick and the economy around him has decided is the next play for him. Nick Saban, I'm watching, be the only guy with the credibility of the way to be on Disney television and not get bleeped on live television for cursing because he's got a power and sway as a voice for college football. This is the man who taught Saban how to be Saban, available to colleges at a time, okay,

when the business of this, when I've talked to you guys about don't you think it's interesting that Tom Brady and LeBron James and Dwyane Wade are now all competing for, and Peyton Manning for content and dollars and millions, that they're all competing around football and their sports to make the business of money work for them bill bella check has just decided with the economy of his career which could have been any number of media jobs that he just those the side now because he can have those whenever he wants with management and with people

tending to the career of the greatest there's ever been he chooses in the shadows with a year to prepare. I'm going to build a thing that gets me to run my own family business in football and I'm going to do it at a time that not everybody realizes that college sports is the new professional football and that there's a money opportunity and a career opportunity over there that will make me forsake passing Don Shula in the pros because in my 70s I can reinvent myself at being good at the business of this when all I got to do is beat Beelima. Yeah I think you're, he's a beast by the way, I think you're a little too hung up on the

business of this. He's not creating a template. The template he's creating is by putting his friends back in there. He's just recreating what he did in the NFL. These templates within this own conference has been around creating a template. The template he's creating is by putting his friends back in there. He's just recreating what he did in the NFL. These templates within this own conference has been around for a while. Miami had a GM with NFL personnel experience in Alonzo Highsmith too. Miami was well funded. That's going to be a huge hurdle for North Carolina.

Can Bill Belichick engage their boosters? Samson said he was financed though. I mean, not only is he financed, I also personally. We're all financed. We're all financed. He's making 10 million. So what you didn't mention out of all this,

all of his media that he threw away, he wasn't making 10 million a year. For me, it's his ability to walk into a room and say something that no one else in sports can, which is I'm the greatest ever at developing talent and helping you win. I have all these relationships in the NFL. And look, Alabama sold for 15 years. We can get you to the NFL. Ohio State sells that to the receivers. We can get you, we have a tried and true program

here that develops players to the NFL. That's what he'll sell. And it could be a couple of years before you take all the air out of that pitch, but it's a solid pitch coming from the greatest of all time. I'm not looking at the business of stuff. I'm looking at his ability to coach and his ability to walk into a room and have an aura about him that no one else can. That used to matter way more, Mike, because remember with Alabama, the players weren't really being paid except for a car commercial once in a while. They were all being paid over.

So getting them to go to the NFL was not just to be the pinnacle of their profession, it was to make the money. They were all being paid over. But they're all being paid way more now. Yeah, yeah, but by comparison, they were getting paid way more at Alabama than they were getting paid out everywhere else. It's incorrect to say that they weren't being paid at all. But I think that the money, the promise to $20 million, whatever the number is, I mean, that's what four times what their NIL budget was last year. That's a huge deal. That means that they're actually willing to put a number behind their commitment to him, not just the three year, $10 million a year deal that they gave him.

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This is the Dan LeBattard Show with the Stugats. I understand having the questions. I kind of have them too, but I'm going to default to this is a pitch that no college, no 18 year old has ever received in in certainly in our lifetimes but how hard do you think he laughs at night over the last couple of days knowing that Rhett Lashley just strolled into this conference and made it to Charlotte in his first year. I want to discuss both parts of this with you guys because I do not believe that the

people listening to this have a full fundamental understanding of how insulting it was to this man given what he's done and how hard it is to do what he achieved to have no job offers and have to interview multiple times in Atlanta. If you think this person who had to watch a documentary made by bob craft for apple tv that shreds him and explains how craft and brady one all those super bowls together if you do not understand that he is a vengeance in what his pride is right now in making sure that as a football genius and glass eater

he is going to do whatever is within his means to not be as more dollars you think he is at his age because he's not he's immortal and he's going to take that job and want to crush everybody with i walk into every room is bill bella check and send and samson to your saying no to ten millions in a media career for belichick mackinfie was given him a million to just show up. Belichick's name shows up in a room and North Carolina money is going into it. Deion Sanders just made a mint of money with a nowhere program dancing and being Deion. This is a beast coming to college football.

This is not a lazy old man that you underestimate because you're forgetful about what he did before the last five years you were watching do you know what it takes to win in that sport everyone is it is fighting for money for careers with their bodies this dude conquered everyone had a murderer on the roster went through cheating scandals conquered that league again and again like no one has and now wants to prove it in the minor leagues of professional football. I'd be terrified to compete against whatever he's got coming my way. I don't feel good about it as a

Miami fan. Look that program's had my program's number and that was when they had Mac Brown there. Now they have the greatest head coach of all time. Like you can have your opinions. This is a major hire for UNC. This is a program that was, that's a basketball school and afterthought, this is a huge hire for the ACC and for North Carolina. It's a major hire for sports, not just this sport, for sports, how Brady leaves Patriot Way

and is like, oh shit, look how much my brand is worth. This kind of winning championship, people inside and outside of sports pay $100,000 for 15 minutes in a corporate speech to hear what this man's wisdom is. Please don't make him an old fool because he's 73 and you think he's Mac Brown. Like, you haven't been paying attention to what this person does for a living. Are you

scared of him or what if North Carolina made an announcement that the coach was someone you never heard of but the money was going to 70 million? A coach you've never heard of who would that even be? I've heard of all the coaches. Okay fine someone not the greatest coach of all time. That's $70 million. I'm more scared of the money than coach. Robert, our IT guy. Make it Robert, our IT guy. If they have $70 million in talent acquisition when the high end in this sport is like 25,

yeah, that'd be really terrifying, but look. Wait, hold on, Robert. There's three minutes left in the game. You have all three timeouts. The other team's on the 40 yard line. They're driving, they're trying to score. When are you gonna use your timeouts? All right, we'll interview Robert at the end of this they're driving they're trying to score when are you going to use your timeouts all right we'll interview robert at the end of this segment robert go get to your introductory press

conference in the media room so that we can get robert as the seventy million he's the fictitious coach he's going against bella check because he's got a fifty million dollar advantage rates robert from i.t. is what you're telling me has a fancy you're not going to interview him as if he's got a game against bella check or he's inheriting a program to compete against Belichick? I think all jokes aside, I think that North Carolina made a huge hire. And yes, I'm more nervous about this

because this to me seems like a pretty obvious improvement over what they had. And you can have your questions. It sounds like this program's gonna take a beat. What if he gets to practice and he realizes, damn, this entire roster is not up to snuff? That's gonna take time. Even the greatest recruiters of talent,

it takes a little bit for them to get their program in place. When you're talking about a 73-year-old, how much time are we talking about? These are all valid questions, but also, I've seen the coaching inside this conference and I've seen his career. I think he'll be fine in a one game sample. Yeah it's a three year deal so you have to figure like this gets people excited about North Carolina football, this invigorates the boosters, they see here's what we can do

with a really good head coach and a shit ton of money in three years, let's set it up for the future and then see what happens after Bill Belichick. I think that they're trying to set up this program for the next decade and get people reinvigorated about this football program. I thought when Jim Laronega came to Miami that he was coming to retire, to take it easy, to take one last job, to cash out you were right and I

Understand well, I wasn't right particularly the last two seasons the last two this one boy Do they lose seven straight Charleston Southern? Yeah at home by 20 good news It was a 25-point favorite good news is Dan not only are we bad in college basketball, but according to Ken Palm We're the unluckiest team of all time Well, but you're also bad. Yes yeah that too but also very unlucky. But I accused him of coming down here to retire and I was wrong and in the subsequent 10 years he built a program and fought the business well the last couple of years until recently. I want to talk about the entirety of Belichick's career management at this

point as an enterprise. He doesn't want to lose forever the what do you mean Brady was responsible for all my success. Like he doesn't have any reason to need to do any of what he's doing except he is built to try and win at these things. What? He got five years fifty $50 million. So you think that that's- At 73, there are not a lot of 73 year olds who are able to monetize, and you just said, oh, McAfee gives him a million just for showing up. A million is not 50.

And he sets up where it can be a family, and don't forget, always pleasing your dad. So there were a lot of factors. He didn't just wake up, poof, and say, oh, I'd go to Drexel- I'm guessing that Belichick was making ten million dollars a year in his media career I'm guessing take the under and he found he was He was doing so many jobs David did have a lot of jobs But probably what closer to five he was selling his name everywhere and people were competing for that name

Grant me just grant me a little bit that I know a little bit about what is being done when people come into the content space and can cash in on their name. When he's helping Tom Brady with his pod, these guys know the value. This is a sports brand name in America's most popular sport, better at excellence than any of them. You will not make this a dirty old hobo who's fishing on the side and walking shirtless out of his girlfriend's apartment behind me and looking at the person making him a dirty old hobo. No because I feel... You're the one that's mentioned his age more than anyone else. Because I feel like he's being

disrespected and what the assessment of the questions are because they're so extreme on the other side of this as if the last year of the NFL not hiring him erases that he conquered it for a quarter century. But it's a what have you done for me lately kind of league. And that's where we are right now. The last couple of seasons in New England were not great. People were not happy with what he was doing. So now you take all that professionals and then you move it up to college and it's like

is that going to be just replicated there? He's about three years older than Greg Cody. Would you give Greg Cody a five year deal right now? If you gave me Drake may to live, if you gave, if, can you imagine Belichick with Drake may a couple of years ago? You guys think, you guys think then there would be all these questions then, because I understand the Patriots didn't do anything when they failed at a first round

quarterback. No team does. When you get it wrong at that position, there's no coach that can overcome it. He's got to be able to get superior talent. I'm worried as all hell because right now Miami is looking at the transfer portal, looking at the names that might possibly jump in there, and you felt pretty good about your chances, and Bill Belichick saunters into a room,

you feel a little bit worse about your chances. This is a grim reality. I feel like everyone's seeing him in the media right now, and they're like, I could see this guy being a good recruiter. I hope it is. Introductory press conference, he goes back to coach Belichick. It's just like, hello.

Yeah, I'm happy to be here, we're gonna take one game at a time, it's on to Syracuse. It's just like hello. You know, I'm happy to be here. We're gonna take one game at a time. It's on to Syracuse. I'm just saying, if he goes back into that mode, we were talking about him not connecting with NFL players and now we're just expecting him to connect with younger people. He does connect with younger people.

That is proven. Different connection. Okay, but he doesn't, he will hire, he will be a curator, okay, and he will hire an assortment of people who can do all this connecting that people are very worried about how much Bill Belichick had in common with Richard Seymour because that was the place, you know, they went to a place emotionally.

Coach and a previous generation, you guys are doing it wrong when it comes to what I think is happening here and I want to ask Sampson what he thinks moves with Belichick. Lane Kiffin, charming, nice, we all like him. When I saw him at FAU with very small players I'm like, wow, they're really good, well coached and he is running roughshod because he's better, he's more of a professional. He is out coaching this person over here who's an amateur by a lot that's lame kiffin what do you guys think surrounds as a management team the economy around bill bella check champion excellence for all time I've seen Don shul in this town I get an expressway named after him get steak

houses just because of that name when he lands in north carolina with that name attached to that excellence that i'm asking you what do you think the management team of his looks like even when you consider the height doble whatever you think they're learning the on to roger people is so i think we we have a pretty good idea of what this on thrush girl look like it's going to be patricia's it's going to be like. It's going to be Patricia's, it's going to be his son, it's going to be Lombardi, it's going to be, you know, Josh McDaniel, guys that have been around his staff and that's that's fine and you can poke

holes in guys like Patricia and Lombardi but I will tell you in this world in college football those guys not not only come in with way more cachet than everybody else but probably a lot more skill than most of the people that they're competing against. The resources is one thing. Look man, WIC Forest doesn't have like a huge football team around it. They don't have a huge scouting network. They don't have all these things that they can put in front of a recruit and say, I have relationships. Look, if you go into the draft, I have a deep relationship with the Tampa Bay Bucs coaching staff and I can improve your chances on getting you where you want to be. Selling the NFL and relationships in the NFL is commonplace in that sport.

Harbaugh had plenty of success doing it. Yeah, I think there's probably some places where he has advantages over other coaches, but probably also where other coaches have spent decades in the college game and have advantages that he doesn't have because ultimately it is a different ecosystem, it's a different atmosphere, it is a slightly different game than what he's used to and so it may take an adjustment period. That being said, David Drexel ended their football program

50 years ago. No, they did not. It was a great name to drop though by David. 50 years ago? The Drexel Dragons last season was 1973. We've mentioned it for years when talking about this program. Drexel? No, that North Carolina Carolina Tar Heels when it comes to football this is a

sleeping giant. All their resources mostly diverted to basketball but if they ever engage that alumni base if they ever tap into the revenue because I've told you this school is more well positioned than anyone else inside the ACC to be an attractive commodity for another major conference. But this is the part I want to talk with you and Jessica and Lucy about because you have seen some of the innards on what it is to be the money management around NIL and how some of this is shifting. The thing that I keep asking you guys when i mix the business the economy the legend the name the brand of all of these things is i want to ask samson as an expert in business and you guys as people who know this business

what's it worth foreign agent to walk into a room anywhere in town and bring bill bellacheck for fifteen minutes so the local furniture guy wants to give ten million dollars cuz he gets fifteen minutes with bellagiac film i figured this out when he bought the college program put my gilmore gunning he could do in the sky box the remote control stuff bill bella check is coming to north carolina to play video game football with a giant business that has potential in it

and what i'm asking you guys about the economy and the money managers, tell me how the agents are going to turn this into a business because Bill Belichick is worth more than what they're paying him. Like just the name walking into the city is worth the amount that they're going to be paying him for five years. I mean you just think about the obvious accounts that he can engage. There's been frustration around Chapel Hill that Michael Jordan doesn't give enough to the basketball program and his whole attitude is, I give you your uniforms, I give you the jump man, I'm the greatest of all time. But he can certainly be more engaged. I think

his experience in NASCAR shows you what you can get when you get an engaged Michael Jordan. He coached Lawrence Taylor. Lawrence Taylor has some money. I think that he can absolutely get more from these boosters. Hell, Dan, this move was born out of boosters giving more than ever. Look at the recent hires. Does this seem normal to you? Rich Rodriguez going back to West Virginia, Dan Mullin going to UNLV,

Bill Belichick going to North Carolina. This is all born out of boosters giving more than they've ever have and the accountability being higher than it's ever been and people are getting desperate. So what the schools do is they're now saying to their donors they're saying it used to be that we'd give and we'd spread it across maybe some players how about some facilities we want to improve our facilities we haven't really seen it leak the way it has from coaches maybe the last five ten years but now just the numbers are

bigger that's really what all we're talking about. But I'm talking with you guys about what's this all worth because- To who though? Well, let me do it this way with you because we've been watching over the pandemic. Like this is a pretty seismic change that we're living in in this sport

as it explodes in front of us, streaming everywhere, WNBA is exploding, people are looking for value everywhere television contracts insane sports is the place there's a giant business burgeoning everywhere college football in the last five years is a totally different thing than it is ever been

it it and and it's more important more relevant bigger stakes more professional than it's ever been it it and and it's more important more relevant bigger stakes more professional than it's ever been and it happened as soon as the players started asking for money during the pandemic and then everything caved in and everyone sees that there is money everywhere when i tell you were on the ground floor of this really exploding into a business when it can welcome someone like bill bellichick when it can lure someone like bill bellichick compete at can lure someone like bill bella check

compete at the top of what the money in this sport is how much money is it worth when dianne sanders comes to colorado you were the worst program and for two years you just been cashing checks but he's so underpaid he's in all the commercials and now it's bill bella check i'm asking you name optics sales

Business credibility. What's it worth because I really clearly 50 million dollars. I feel like they're getting him cheap I feel like they're getting him cheap. I give you a price Dan You want to hear a price because now people are trying to buy the teams. So you talk about boosters They're actually going to be owners of college football teams. So you're gonna not have to rant or guess what teams are worth. Someone could come in and buy the North Carolina football team.

What is that team worth today? Well, all I know is they've got huge expenses. I haven't seen one concomitant increase in revenue. They haven't been to the CFP, they get to pay, they get conference money. Haven't won the ACC since 1980 I think. It's been, so that's, that's a lot, that's more than Drexel. Did you, did you say rant? Did you say rant? Mario Crystal Ball! I looked into my Crystal Ball and it says to you, we'll never win an ACC title you had a life wallet we have a Bella check That's a repeat Bella check sounds like life wallet Bella check

You learned at Bill Bella checks me now prepare for him to bend you over it and give you that proper spanking It's too much yelling it's it's you got it you got a you got a be more subtle than that than that. Dabbo Sweeney is on the record as being a god fearing man. Dabbo, congratulations next December in Charlotte at the ACC Championship. You get to meet him yourself. Howdy it's Mike. Want to talk to you about Game Time.

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