The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Billy Says Bob Costas Isn't Funny

Episode Date: November 1, 2024

Today's cast: Dan, Amin, Chris, Billy, Jeremy, Roy, and Tony. Dan is shocked this morning as we have finally found a topic that has the entire crew fired up: Jets vs. Texans on Thursday Night Football. If George Pickens' catch the other night wasn't a catch, how was Garrett Wilson's catch last night a catch? Where does the knee end and the shin begin? Why does Chris have SO many freckles? Then, Billy learns that Bob Costas went after him on yesterday's show and begins a feud with Bobby Q (even though he would tell you he didn't). We also pay tribute to Costas as he announced his retirement yesterday...but not on our show. Plus, Journalism is truly dead, and Amin threatens to show the audience something they don't want to see. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Shadow show. Shadow show. Shadow show. Shadow show. show shadow show shadow in it. I don't know how Amin actually experienced this because I imagine that on Thursdays he's watching basketball But when I walked into the show today, I mean, I don't even know if you were here But I was surprised by this. it was Jeremy, Tony, Roy and Chris and I'm watching a group of producers and I'm like huh so that's what gets them all to care about sports a Jets Texans game last night really a

Jets Texans game so there so look at how they though they argue and they fight and they deeply care about the Jets pass rush and what Hassan Reddick did. I'm like, so that's what it takes, a Thursday night football game that gets the Jets to three and six to second place in the standings. These guys are trying to blame CJ Stroud. That was such a game of just aggressive line play.

That first half was one of the weirdest halves I've ever seen. Move the ball, move the ball, move the ball. Turn seen. Move the ball, move the ball, move the ball. Turn over, move the ball, move the ball, move the ball. Turn over, sack, sack. The Dolphins, nine sacks on the season. Guess how many sacks the Jets had last night? Eight, yeah.

Eight! That was an, that's not on CJ Stroud. This was like, he could not breathe last night. And it also goes to show you when you have your number one receiver, who was once your number three receiver, and you guys have, you got, you have like Robert Woods and John Metchie out there trying to catch passes.

Xavier Hutchinson trying to catch passes. Like who do you throw to? That's what I'm dealing with Dan. They're trying to make excuses for CJ Stroud. I'm not making excuses. Had nothing to do with the receivers. That's not an excuse. He couldn't breathe last night.

Why is that? Offensive line. Problems and good defensive line for the Jets. It was just, what a crazy game. That game last night, the clash between the lines, every play, both sides of the ball, was great last night, just the trenches. Last night was a game for the trenches.

I mean, you're right, they do care. I couldn't believe it. I was so very confused, and one of the reasons I'm confused is because our analysis in that sport for all we talk about is quarterback good if he would not like that's that's big like we can we can say what we want but what last night revealed is all the defensive line that erin rogers was

going to make a champion uh... that's what it looks like when it renders cj stroud useless because half the season is eaten up his entire receiving court and furthermore when we saw him be good he had those receivers and now we're all like that nico collins pretty important pretty important giant number one receiver i don't think it's that complicated i think you're trying to look too deep it's it's simple what's going on here

sophomore slump it's just what's going on here. Sophomore slump. It's just what happens with quarterbacks. It is predictable. I think anyone gets you it happening. Sophomore slump. And sophomores. It happens with sophomores too. Billy, you are kicking ass with God Bless Football. I saw you just come in here with it under your right arm because you were in a very important meeting. You were not even in the place I was in in the eating area where all of these guys could not have cared more About anything in sports than the three and six jets. It was so they could go on a run Dan That's they could they could do that schedule on a run Dan. That's what you're that's what you're missing You're thinking it's three and six jets

No, we're seeing there's a glimmer of hope in New York all the sudden What if Aaron Rodgers cayenne pepper water and all turns the tide on this season their second place in the AFC East right now 118 rating yesterday now he goes he faces the Cardinals the Cardinals have a bottom of the league past defense like don't let him get hot because then you go to the Colts and I don't flak or right now as a quarterback so you don't want to see that situation it's the rare situation where you don't want to face the, you'd rather face the starter. But now he's the starter, and is Flacco gonna be able

to carry the weight of the world on his shoulders as a starter? It's easy when you're second fiddle. You come in and you play the song, and people are just happy to see the fiddler. But now that you're the first fiddler, do we want the second fiddler? Billy, do you realize that one of the things

God bless football has done to you, not unlike what it did, first take did to Max Kellerman and Stephen A. Smith is, your takes are now twice as long on football as they used to be. Gotta fill. All of them. Gotta fill, we started the show early. Yeah, we did.

Gotta stretch. Gotta stretch, you got us to that nine o'clock hour. So I'm here, I'm just trying to fill. No, I don't need you to fill. You want a minute, I'll give you two and a half. Let's get there. No, I want a minute, no. We're normally starting now, we started early today,

so I'm just trying to get us there. No, what I want, no. A little stretch. What I want from you is please give me 15 seconds instead of 115 seconds. Don't even get him started on the Garrett Wilson catch. Don't I know it, by the way. That's been my life the last two days.

It's like, hey, can you record this for the oral history? And then it's like, hey, can you record what you did oral history? And then it's like, hey, can you record what you did but shorter? And it's like, okay, well, I guess. Just tell me what you want me to say. You're asking me my experience, I'm giving it to you. If you want someone else's experience, don't ask me. Short oral history, apparently.

No, I do. Short oral history. So what's happening? Are people getting cut out of the oral history? I don't know, man, I got a text and it just said answer these two questions. Wasn't even an interview, technically. I was like, okay, and then it's like, hey, that was nice, just a little too long. I was like know man, I got a text and it just said answer these two questions. It wasn't even an interview technically. And I was like okay, and then it's like hey,

that was nice, just a little too long. I was like okay, so I did it short. I'm like oh, a little too short. A little in between here and I'm like okay, fine, whatever you want. Wait a sec, there was no prompt, like a person saying hey Billy, tell us about this. It was a text message?

Well, we don't need to get into nitty gritty. Well we're already there. Well I was here. Billy, Billy, you did this. I was here the other day. Don't pretend like someone other than you just did this. Wait.. Well, we're already there. Well, I was here. Billy, you did this. I was here the other day. Don't pretend like someone other than you just did this. He's a victim.

Wait. Thank you. Finally, someone gets it. He's a victim, Dan. Someone gets it, finally. He's been part of this show for a long-ass time, and then he gets two text messages, hey, talking to your phone about something that happened 15 years ago. Because truth be told, I was here, and then Dan and Sugats took like four hours recording and

I was like, well two questions, I've already been waiting for two hours, I went through an entire planning meeting for an hour and I was like, my children need to get picked up from school. I don't know the practice of not picking up your children, I imagine they just let them out into the streets like feral cats and I can't have my children running around like feral cats. They don't know how to find food and fend for themselves. They're still babies.

Babies aren't that smart, I don't know if you know this. They can't figure out how to feed themselves. So if they're running around, they don't know where they live. They're not gonna find their way back home. I mean, we're running around lost. We didn't even put their collars on them. No one's gonna know where they belong. What will a school do if I just don't show up?

I'm telling you. Call the cops? No, I think they just let them out on the street like cats. They put a padlock on the door. Yeah. I mean, there's no policy that says it in writing. They're not going to tell you up front, we just let them run around with the cats.

But I imagine that's what happens. How do cats get there? I imagine the cat parents don't pick them up from the cat school. I want to follow what Amin said. So they leave them in the school, lock the door, so they can't get out, and just like, you can get them tomorrow?

Oh, it's like that Target movie, Career Opportunities. Remember that one? No. You guys don't remember Career Opportunities? No, you guys don't remember career opportunities, Dan You remember career opportunities, right? I'm thinking about ending yours Stretch The thing that I find funny about what's happening around here. I mean is that We've got an oral history that is very popular

We've got another episode that is out today. Mike Ryan is calling it the spiciest one yet. I have noticed that in the first bits of this oral history, I have heard from none of the voices in this room. It's a Mike Ryan project, and what you guys are now accusing Mike Ryan of is just grabbing work parts without doing the interview or research. You're accusing Mike Ryan of is just grabbing work parts without doing the interview

or research, you're accusing Mike Ryan of giving you. For the record, I didn't say that because I suspect what's coming on later is someone getting mad at me for something I allegedly did or said. And shenanigans, shenanigans. Right, I can't relate to that at all. I put my card down, I have played my shenanigans card

because I saw a barbecue with his little peeve yesterday and I assumed that's coming that at all. I put my card down. I have played my shenanigans card, because I saw Bobby Q with his little peep yesterday, and I assume that's coming up at some point. So I'm going to plop down my shenanigans card right now. Before we even get to it, I'm putting the shenanigans card down right now. Billy, Bobby. Shenanigans. Bobby Q is.

I played the shenanigans card. You can't. Do you have a reverse? You don't have a reverse card. You can't play it. Sorry, buddy. What about shenanigans? you can't. Do you have a reverse? You don't have a reverse card, you can't play it. Sorry buddy. What about skip shenanigans? Bobby Q is so mad at you.

Well. Off air you should hear what he says. Off air? This is the Don LeBattor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. Today's episode is sponsored by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours. I mean because of the general daily shenanigans around here, we didn't have time yesterday

to get to call Anthony Towns going for 44 against the Miami Heat and you are an exceptional national basketball voice that you know I want your thoughts on that but the general shenanigans of what we've got around here I still want your thoughts on how you feel when you see breakout around you a conversation about football where these guys can't stop talking about every permutation of Jets Texans Including whether or not one of the greatest catches you've ever seen was actually in bounds or not They could not stop talking about Jets Texans And I don't know last night was not an interesting basketball night Basketball's numbers are down think people are realizing the regular season doesn't mean a whole lot.

Dan, and you say that John Morant and them boys slapped up the Bucs in a big game, a statement game for the West and the East. You think we're not locked in on sports, Dan? Well, I want to talk to Amin about the Bucs because they looked confused and Doc Rivers. That's a mess, man. Like it's been a mess for a minute.

Them falling behind the Celtics that way, like that, happened awfully fast. And it happened on Doc Rivers' watch after trading for Damien Lillard. But the problem is, I can't get the rest of the group engaged where Amin is, because Billy won't shut up about what's a catch and what's not a catch and one foot in and one ass cheek in. Was it a catch or was it not a catch?

I always ruled a catch, but I don't know. Guys, it's clear. There was a shin down here. With Pickens, there wasn't a shin down. No, no, no. That's the difference. So clear, it couldn't be more clear. Yeah, but here's the thing about the feet situation.

If the heel of your foot lands in and then the tip of your foot rolls out, then you're ruled out of bounce. But if your shin rolls in and then the tip of your foot rolls out, then you're ruled out of bounce. But if your shin rolls in and your leg continues to move and then your knee hits out, your shin is in. I don't know what a football catch is. Cause like the George Pickens thing looked like more of a catch.

And then I feel like there was an outrage and then there was like, we can't have something like that again. And Garrett Wilson made one of the greatest plays that I've ever seen. I don't know about an SB. SB nominee, play of the year. Play of the year? Odell Beckham was nominated.

Is that not on the Odell Beckham level of play right there? No. Slightly lower on the scale, I think. Well, wait a minute, wait a minute. A football thrown twice as far. Look, I've seen, what I've seen from the receivers in this league that make me think that garrick wilson is an actual number one is that as somehow that guy

with one hand can catch a ball falling out of bounds and the ball doesn't move the ball there that you've seen this from some receivers in the league right now marg cooper's exceptional at it ball against helmet balls not moving as you slide ten yards out of bounds and they call it a catch because with one hand, because you've got a talon that can grab a ball with one hand because of what human evolution is. But Odell Beckham's catch was better than that one. Billy doesn't even think this was a catch.

Well, I said I think that it was a great play. It was ruled a catch, I'm not sure. Now, I think I have a solution that I'd like to run by you guys, and this is, I wanna call it the clock system. Right, and I've just come up with this system right now, so granted it's a little rusty. Are we gonna say that the one, that the arm,

your actual arm is the little hand, and then your leg is the long hand of the clock, right? Because when we're doing this, I want to say Odell Beckham, depending on the angle that you look at, his catch was a 230. You know what I mean? His little arm was way back here at two and his leg was down like a 30 but almost back. It was no because it's coming this way so it's almost like a 225. Like this is what we're looking at here. A 225 on the clock scale, right? Garrett Wilson did the Jordan there. We're looking at like a 1230 at best.

225, way better than 1230. 1230 is almost like a straight line. 225, you're way back like this. That's a better catch on the clock scale. Am I looking at this wrong? Cause I'm looking at what Del Beco and I was saying, that's 935. It does look like 935. clock scale am i looking at this wrong because i'm looking at del beck and honestly that's 935 it does look like 935 well you're looking at the reverse angle the wrong arm you gotta look at the other angle yeah like you know how like it's like the camera angle then you're

looking at so like if you're as a broadcaster if you're if you're looking at from one side of the field you say left to right but if if someone's on the TV side for example that's the opposite of field you say right to right. But if someone's on the TV side, for example, and that's the opposite side of the field, you say right to left. So here's the thing, some people have a completely inverse memory of great moments in sporting history based on how they're watching it. Same thing in baseball, if you're watching from the outfields, like, oh my God, I saw the ball flying,

it was coming right at me. It's like, no, I saw the ball flying away from me. Wild, wild. So like the people who are at game one of the World Series saw Freddie Freeman's teeth, whereas I saw the back of his head. Yeah, but anyways, the catch, just like that. What you were saying, incredible play.

I have no idea if it was a catch or not, but I feel like after Sunday with George Pickens, the NFL was kind of like, we can't have another debate about this. We're gonna, that's a catch. The question that the NFL has to answer, and I'll bring my knee up for this. Oh, where does the knee end and the shin start? Well, that's what we're arguing. Pretty obvious right there.

This that's a thing like that. What's that middle portion? What is this? That's a good question. That's your shin right there. What is this? I got to feel it for the audio audience. I'm pointing at a spot on my knee a lot of freckles below It's good below the knee look well. You just said you're pointing at your knee, so I think you've classified that as your knee I said just below the knee so it's the shin damn it. Yeah, it is a confusing question that Chris is asking The whole point of this video is to get the joke of the freckles. It's a lot of freckles

That was not the joke. I thought that that's all we were doing. I don't think it's fine shaming freckles. You always have Chris I've never seen that many freckles it's a lot of freckles that was not the joke I thought that that's all we were doing don't think it's fine shaming freckles you always have Chris I've never seen that many freckles on that small of a surface area of human body in my life you're hey relax yourself I'm just a big surface area what are you talking about my knee yes oh you bragging about having fat knees what's going on these put it the poll, has cancel culture made it impossible now to make fun of freckles? For Dan. Because I thought the whole video joke

we were going for there is wow, that's 100 dots racing each other across his pale leg to get to what he's identifying as maybe his knee or below the knee. I just wanna go back for a second though because we do analyze every Microscopic portion of this game Billy didn't realize as he was doing this because Billy's chasing around kids and may not have noticed some Of the places where he ages out There's a whole bunch of people listening right now who have never seen a clock the way that you're describing. Yeah, that's right

Kids in school right now. Is that so? They're not, yeah, they're not taught an actual clock. They use a digital clock. Hold on. They still got a clock in the center of the room. But no one's teaching them how to use it. No, they know. That's just a decoration.

I mean, you're waving me off. What do you mean? Decoration. Tony, I'm telling you, these classrooms have digital clocks. No. Yep. They took away the stick clocks? You could set the face of your Apple Watch to one of those. I'm not saying that you can't seek it out and learn it. I'm saying we're not teaching it anymore.

The digital clocks are going to rate. There are people listening to you right now that don't know what you're talking about. And I thought it looked like 1130 on the clock. The Odell Beckham clock is even better than I thought it was. 1125 is the Beckham clock. And he looks, that Beckham catch, I'm now seeing in retrospect retrospect a good deal better than the one i had last night with a second you tell me we're losing recipes that's what's happening in the recipes speaking of which i mean because i didn't want to get serious for a moment

spotless boys bob costas was on with us yesterday and because people don't respect the past and history billy gill most among them false it's bob costas has been a broadcaster who has been the very top of the profession for forty years talking about everything from sports to other things cuz he could have all those journalism jobs all the nightline sixty minutes he was not just a sports guy he was somebody who had the world views for forty years he's been good on all subject matter but he says analog clock for sure in the study and that's rude so i'd like to in the library

uh... he surprised me yesterday when he went after billy gill and now there's genuine feud here because i i was really taken aback by this Billy I don't know how this information got to you, but he he somehow and guys put it on the internet No, thanks me. We didn't bring you up to him though. He brought you up to us yeah, so this is the part that I want to set some of this up for a second because I Didn't know that I've talked to Bob Costas some but I did not know that he was the level of angry that he was when he did what he did here, where he was referencing something that I had no idea that how it got back to him,

unless it must have been the poll question of that Billy suggested that he used to be Robert Quinlan Costas, and that that in grade school he forced the other kids to call him Robert, Robbie Q. It's a joke, a barbecue I think in Billy's Defender. It's a joke, it's not a big deal. You just say a joke and you keep it moving. That's what I thought how this works.

But it doesn't. So if that had gotten to him alone though, he would have no reason to be that mad. It is just a joke. Unless you went back and listened to the show and heard everything you guys were doing around it when you were disrespectful of the entirety of his career. You and Stugats were.

No, no, no, no, no. Now I'm piecing together how this went because I don't think that Bob Costas went back to listen to a four hour show show I'm thinking Bob Costas saw a poll and Sent a little text or a call to his friend Daniel and said Daniel what's going on here? What's this poll about? Well, he was there in his smoking jacket and his pipe He's like what's this all about Daniel and then you said oh billions two gods, but four hours disrespecting your career and if I remember if memory serves and I'm I'm not in this to get into a back and forth with Bob Costas I think that we should

celebrate his great career today he's he announced yesterday that he was retired not on this show later that he's retiring that's the part Billy started cut you off that's the part we should be talking about is that Bob Costas came on the show friend of the show gave us 25 strong minutes and never once said by the way adios he went on another show to divulge that information we could have used that well the point being I feel like we should be celebrating Bob Costas today the legendary broadcasters he's stepping aside retiring from broadcasts in the game now all that we did the day that this incident occurred was discuss that there was social media reaction

to the way the game was being called. That's all we did that day. That's all we said, and then we started going down the path and then we did the, oh, his middle name is a Q, it's Quinlan, and then we did the barbecue thing, which we've done before, not a big deal. Just a joke, we just joke around. We have fun and we keep it moving and then you know, it's just a joke the way I experienced it and granted I

I I don't want to look I'm not professionally. It doesn't serve me to be in a war with Bob Costas. I'm not gonna get in a war Bob Costas That's not what I'm here for. I'm sorry if what I said as a joke Landed the wrong way and he got offended by it. However, the point of the joke was that he couldn't take a joke. And then he came on here and got very offended by the joke that we made and quote unquote roasted me.

And like, that's fine, but I would say in my meager defense, I think he proved my point. Okay, and we will have- And I'm not getting back and forth with him. More chances for you to continue your feud with Bob Costas that you don't want to have. Right that's not good for you in any way. No, no, no, because Dan, like here's the thing. I think that you like this. I think that you like us fighting with luminaries and people of note. No. I just will make a joke and then all of a sudden let's put it on a billboard and

then if this continues there's gonna be a billboard. And then if this continues, there's gonna be a billboard outside of Bob Casas' house, which I do not want. I didn't want one with Josh Allen. I just, you know, we're like a comedy sports hybrid, like a mishmash. You put us in there, you shake us up, and then. You never know what's gonna come out.

Exactly right. Toss a little lime in there and you enjoy. Maybe some Smirnoff, whatever, whatever your, pick your poison, not the Smirnoff's poison, I would not suggest that, so don't even go and then put that, pick your poison. You know what, that right there. You enjoy it, that's what I like to do,

and then you're here and you're like, let's have everybody fight with each other. Okay, so. Like feral cats. Children who have been picked up by their parents. Okay, I'm. A full circle, listen to the Shadow Show people, you'll get it.

Shadow Fielder! Alright, you are supposed to be protecting our corporate sponsorships. I'm trying! I'm gonna have to penalize you for what just happened there. I'm sorry to do this to you. I think you understand what you did wrong there.

I covered the tracks. Minor penalty, two minutes, stumbling. You're gonna have to get out of the room there You're gonna have to get out of the room there because yes, you're gonna have to leave now. But I'm going to- Victory lap? Not a victory lap. You're gonna go sit in the penalty box for two minutes, even though I need your help here for, to escalate this to the proper way, because I'm gonna throw metal arc budget at

Billy trying to agitate Bob Costas from the shadows. Oh my God, we're getting that billboard, huh? Well, putting up something near Costas' house, but we gotta be careful with this because this is an actual dangerous time for Costas to do what he did yesterday bravely that I have some objection to and the audience does as well.

But Bob Costas' ability to do 10 minutes on Trump without a hiccup yesterday, talking about things that a lot of people are talking about, but you're not hearing condensed for you and that bites by a size away. whether Kamala is center left or not as all I saw was a professional broadcaster for 40 years who had you know st. Louis baseball conservative America at his core was trying to get both sides into a reasonable place in the center to discuss what's happening right now and people drag cost us for saying Kamala is not an ideal candidate whatever he's just trying to get the other side to listen. Somewhere closer to the middle is the right and the left fly off into the extremes. And so what he did yesterday, the degree of difficulty of it, whether you agree with it or not, that's sort of irrelevant to me.

A professional broadcaster who's been doing that well for 40 years, on the day he's retiring from baseball, a week before the election election is doing 10 minutes that people need to hear because a lot of people don't make up their minds on this stuff until the last week and that's why LeBron's out here now putting out commercials as the oldest player in the league where you're like is this his marketing department or is this guy using the George Floyd voice because he knows that some people need to hear him right now a week before this election First of all, I think you're absolutely right about Bob

Regardless of what he said the craftsman craftsmanship of how he said it That was the most shocking thing because I'm watching him go and he's barely pausing to take a breath Let alone any sort of misspeak or no hiccups. A man who covered the Olympics live, like this is the part that Billy and Stugat's disrespected and I'm sorry I'm not gonna go there with them as they say I'm trying to escalate things. No, what happened with Bob Costas yesterday and this is the part that surprised me, he gave you his resume on things he's done because on this show the people don't seem to know what the resume actually is.

That's what surprised me about what Bob did yesterday where he goes straight to, I've been on Conan O'Brien, I've been on Letterman. Poodie Tang. Poodie Tang, baseball, but respectfully, we dropped the ball there. He is elite at not missing a step, we are elite at missing all the steps

because when he was rattling off the Bonifides, somebody, anybody with a button should have hit, look at me, Louie. That was- He was cooking though, he was cooking. He was cooking but he was also- He would have rattled him. Looking at me, Louie.

Well, let's listen to this sound because this is not instigated by me and this is not me talking to Bob Costas off air. I didn't know he was gonna do any of this. The prompt was us just asking, is it a den or is it a study? I want the sound of him going after Billy. It surprised me and not just because in the middle of it,

Fat Prince, Elton John, Austin, no powers. He's in the middle of executive producing. You know, by the way, by the way, I don't know who to pin this on, but one of your limited frame of reference Peanut Gallery guys, and the only reason I know this is because sometimes I follow you, Dan, said at one point, you know,

I don't even know why he's called Bob. He's the kind of guy that really should have been, even in grade school, would have demanded that he be called Robert. This is what happens when you don't know jack shit, okay? Saturday Night Live, Letterman, Leno, Carson, Conan, baseball, Poodie Tang, the paper. If somebody knew as little, even if they were 20 years old, knew as little about baseball history

and then was talking about last night's game with no frame of reference, they'd be laughed out of the room. You know, laughter, that kind of thing, that humorless people supposedly have no grasp of. You know what I'm talking about? You know? Forgot about Poodie Tang.? Forget about pootie time.

I forgot about pootie time. We'll never forget about baseball. That is Billy Gill. I'm disappointed that Billy's not here. I mean, I know where the objections are, because every time as this is the divided America we live in, every single time, Bob Costas comes out every couple of months to talk about this stuff because it's an important time in America and even though he worked in the sports department that guy's always been a journalist not just a broadcast journalist he's conducted himself with the sensibilities of

somebody who has print journalism credentials and he's one of the best to ever do it he just got shitty retirement in baseball because all of the people in baseball are like it's too slow We want it different now So you get the shitty ending there and he retires yesterday but a week before the election he comes on and he does ten minutes of That guy's hosted the Olympics live and it was a pleasure to just listen to my own show. Like listen to somebody who's a just to sit here and listen to somebody who at

important times in America has come out of the playpen to do journalistic things. He did a live interview with Sandusky at a time just put him on the air at the time that we're in the middle of this the biggest sports scandal in our career in our careers and it's not top ten things he's done in his career on television so he's not going to get the applauded ending that he deserves especially if he's going to get out there during political times but whatever it is that he said yesterday that people were objecting to because we've gotten further left and further

right he's just trying to meet people somewhere in the middle on hey it can't be this lunatic like what if we can argue about all sorts of things and sense split all sorts of hairs and make it about even women's rights or the rights of minorities. He's just in the middle saying, look, whatever you think of the other side, think it bad in all the ways that you want.

You got to vote against this. This thing needs to be voted against. And there aren't enough people saying it now as the billionaires run for their lives because they're afraid of what's going to happen if Trump gets into power and starts punishing them like you can't have everybody running scared of Trump and he's just communicating at a time that I thought cut through it like you could sit here and yell and all you want about whether Kamala is center left or not we've moved the center man it's obvious we've moved the center Billy response. It's obvious we've moved the center. Billy, response?

To the Kamala stuff? No, to Bob. Costas. What about him? I said he had a great career. I never said he didn't have a great career. I never came after his credentials. Then why is he doing that?

I don't know. I mean, I think he knew he was retiring. I don't think it has anything to do with me. No, you did come after one specific part of his credentials because that's what he presented He didn't say World Series or Olympics He's saying who is he saying of that person doesn't know jack shit that's directed at someone here Billy That wasn't directed at the internet. It was directed said he said someone in the peanut gallery Yeah, he didn't say me specifically you threw threw my name out there if we're gonna,

if I saw the clip correctly, you said that's Billy Jill. But who is it then? If it's not- It could be anyone. You did make the he should be called Robert joke, no? I don't know. I'm pretty sure that was the joke that you made. And that's what he's pointing to.

He's presenting the comedy Bonifides, not like the entire Bonifides. So we're not talking about his career, we're talking about his comedic career, which isn't quite as large or heralded as his sports career or his journalism career, but that's what Billy was questioning. But he didn't play Pootie Tang, he played Bob Costas.

That's a good point, but he was doing a comedic role. He was doing a comedic version of Bob Costas, as he was on Carson. Stugatz here from my friends over at Simply Safe. The holiday season is right around the corner. comedic role. He was doing a comedic version of Bob Costas, as he was on Carson. the home security I trust to keep my home and family safe. SimpliSafe is a new way to protect your home that stops intruders before they break into your home. Old school systems only take action once someone is already inside your home. That's too late. SimpliSafe's active guard outdoor protection changes the game by preventing crime before it even happens. If someone's lurking around or acting suspiciously, those agents see them in real time, talk to them directly, set off your spotlight, and even call the police before they've had a chance to break in. SimpliSafe is offering my listeners exclusive early access to their Black Friday Sale.

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You feel like Bob Costas or Robert that he condescended you by giving you his resume by he made you peanut gallery and he's Conan Letterman Leno he took them all off they're all the late-night shows I know I think it was an emotional day for him he was retiring that's what about I look I'm if if if that was well emotional time he's on all of us jack shit look dollars look to Bob no to you okay he retired I didn't know so look if he was emotional yesterday and that's why he attacked me that's fine it was turn the other cheek that's fine okay hi me, that's fine. It was, turn the other cheek, that's fine.

I appreciate, he had a greater career than I will ever have, I acknowledge that. In hindsight, it makes sense he didn't answer the study or den question, because he was just an emotional day. Well now, we didn't get that news though, you guys are blaming him, because I didn't ask the question.

I'll take it, that's on me, hands up, I did that. He did 10 minutes on Trump and started it with, well since you asked, I didn't ask whether his career was over I did not he may have answered it. It's a failure of journalism on my part is it not we didn't ask him Hey, how much longer you're gonna do this? That's what we should ask why would you ask someone that cuz that's such a rude question unless you have an inkling someone's gonna retire It's basically like are you saying that I'm not good at my job

Are you saying that I'm old are you saying I should leave like that's not how you should but that's what the internet was That's what the internet was doing to him while he was calling these games the question We could have asked him that might have led to him is like would you make of all the you know the Twitter? We're coming after you the criticisms of your broadcasting I thought maybe there that could have but it was a show we didn't have like he went on forever about the politics stuff I mean, he's like, all right if you insist and he talked for 28 minutes It was yes, and a lot of people got bothered by that Can you I mean as someone who was properly appreciative yesterday of the fact that we're talking to Bob Woodward

Because you know all of the history of that and you know all of the history of that as somebody history of that and you know all of the history of that as somebody who's coming to this country and learning how valuable that freedom is and how it must be protected by journalistic freedom. You had more respect for Bob Woodward being on the show than anyone here who grew up, it grew up around newspapers, newspapers are responsible for a lot of the money in that room because of what it is that we have built down here. Woodward, you appreciated what was being done there, who we were talking to there.

Yeah, I mean, I'll be honest with you. I didn't really think of it from the standpoint of like, oh, you people don't value freedom and all that. I just thought about it like me in school, we have to watch all the president's men in like history or social studies or something like that. This is one of the seminal moments in American history where the press, the fifth estate if you will,

or fourth estate, whatever estate it is, I don't know, how many estates do we have? 20 estates. 50 estates. It's not the. That's it. That's the one. It's not. Whatever state it is on how many states we have to in these states not 50 states not But this this brought down the president of the United States which Then you know this very well in a lot of countries. That's

Absurd that's correct that a newspaper guy can write something or two newspaper guys can write something that would end a presidency unheard of in many parts of the world, many of which are democratic nations, but it happened here. And like I said, that isn't a big news story or journalism story. That is American history. Correct. But when you say that and we don't respect American history because this is fairly flabbergasting and it's one of the things that I find myself fighting against right now. The Washington Post right now is under it.

Think about what Amin just said about what the Washington Post once did. Topple the president and now look at where we are trump and his billionaire cronies want to topple the press so that no one can call them on anything and so that he won most can be running as currency your information system because he's bought a toy for forty four million forty four billion dollars and wants to be the most popular high school kid more popular than Zuckerberg as they overrule overrun and decimate the press

but Dan so this is the part where I feel like I'm taking an unpopular stance but when I read the Jeff Bezos open letter there's a part of it like I kind of get it kind of get what he's saying right because you're saying Trump and his cronies are trying to do it I would argue they've already done it we're already at a place where nobody believes anything unless it came in the form of an infographic on Instagram or a podcast clip where a bunch of people start just spewing out their theories on researched uninformeded, uninformed, ignorant theories have more legs than the Washington Post for many people.

And that's the scary part. And like what Bezos was trying to say is, yeah, I'm trying to correct that. We're trying to get away from things that make people automatically dismiss anything that we say that is journalistic and factual and objective. So we're trying to curtail on this particular very, very high radioactivity feature, which is the, hey, vote for this person because the other guy's a moron. I get that and I get that you can hide your corporate,

your corporate business interests in any kind of noble camouflage as you allow the money to contaminate editorial. What I'm telling you that I'm longing for and I understand it's nostalgic, is a time where you could trust your local newspaper to be a representative community voice for what it is that you think. The divided politics that we have now, many conservative people think of life in the arts in the business of

journalism as being a liberal career with good reason. I understand the many failures of the New York Times and the Washington Post up to and including where it is they've decimated us on climate change because the media companies are also purchased by the oil and we've done a very poor job of declaring a climate emergency right now so I understand the business of this but once you get into oh you're taking away the paper in Washington Post that did that to Watergate and you're doing it with Bezos's help because he doesn't have the stomach for standing up to Trump and doesn't care about journalism because why the bleep would Amazon care about journalism? The

Washington Post exists for him as something that loses 77 million dollars a year so he doesn't have to pay taxes over there on anything he's doing with Amazon. It is a toy. It is not a journalism outfit. It's a toy that gives him power because he can say he owns the Washington Post. He doesn't care about journalism. Why would he? I don't think he doesn't care about journalism. I do think that it's fair to say he cares about journalism up until the point where it affects him personally. But the one thing I'm gonna say is, from the standpoint of Bezos, and you said, he's doing this to the Washington Post

that once toppled the presidency. The Washington Post toppled the presidency with objective factual reporting, not with an op-ed piece. An op-ed piece didn't knock him out, Nixon out. Journalism knocked it out. And so he's funding the journalism side and saying, at this point right here, we don't want to do the op-ed part. Now what Pablo said and a lot of Jeremy said in my ear yesterday is when you have that

kind of power, oftentimes it's not just what's reported, it's also what isn't being reported, what you choose not to report. And that's the part where our minds go wild a little bit. The more I think about this, I think I have an above average size knee. Cause I think if the knee is here and the shin is here, my knee goes far. I think I have a big-

Maybe you're bending it though. I think I have a- Big cap. If you straighten it out. My knee cap, I have a damn big knee cap. Put your finger on where it's straightened out and then, or yeah. Like I think my knee cap goes from like here to like,

I got a big kneecap. Everybody's kneecap goes from here to there. No, mine's bigger than yours. Have you guys ever seen like, it's a portrait, but then when you zoom in, you realize it's made up a very little, little portrait. How do they do that? That's what his knee looks like.

All right, fine, Dan, I'll count the freckles. You'll be here all day. Two. Watergate was easy. You should ask Woodward this question. What the hell is this part of Chris's leg? Is that his knee or his shin? Where does the shin start and where does the knee end?

A question as old as time. Is that like a barrel of alacin in his knee bone? Is that like a barrel of alacin in his knee bone, Chris? I kind of feel like the knee ends right where that dip happens, right below your knee. If you're touching your knee, you feel the knee. Where your shin bone starts? And then the shin bone starts and it's like a shin guard.

It's like a shin guard. It's like this one big sheet of bone. I'm sure it doesn't look like that in real life. I think the internet just saw my balls. The leg bone's connected to the knee bone. I had the video in my ear being like, get your knee down. Quick, quick, quick. Wait a minute.

Louis has been going for that for the first 20 minutes of the show. I've heard Louis say three times I was trying to get the balls. I think he did and then he panicked. Well, because he's an idiot. Oops. Like, have you guys not figured this out yet? Also, Chris having his leg at 12 o'clock or 15 or whatever. What time was my leg at?

Well, where's your arm? There go the balls again. You need the arm. Tell me, the balls are there. Put your arm up, Chris. I mean, was it super important for you to cite Jeremy in your head as a source? Two sources Brett Cody major penalty five minutes

There was no reason for you to say the one comment I got from Jeremy in my ear, now I'm doing a show just to credit Jeremy on something he said only to me that is only being repeated now because I'm stealing it. The single most inefficient way to do this. It was nice, but not necessary. It is the polar opposite of MeMaxima. Me.

Uh-oh. Greg Cody, major penalty, five minutes, MeMaxima. Your honor. So let me be clear on this, forever I know this, not claiming some shit is mine, giving the credit to where the credit is due, that's me maximum, right? Cause I'm about to be the most humble mother f***

in the world now, because everything is my idea now. Because I don't want to be me maximum, right? Because I'm about to be the most humble mother-in-law in the world now because everything is my idea now. Because I don't want to be me maximum. But heaven forbid, I give credit to someone else who had a very good point. No, no, me maximum means I'm giving credit to people? Okay, I'm about to be humble and never credit any of y'all. Guess what? I said that Bob Costas isn't funny.

How about that? I did give you a couple lines yesterday that you didn't credit me for. What? No, no. Well, I was too humble to credit you. Bob Costas isn't funny? I didn't say, for the record, when this guy-

No, Billy said that. I didn't say that. Humility. I said we should be honoring your career, Mr. C. Like, I'm just saying that right now. Hey, hey, Kevin Millar, bro hall of fame. Yeah, that is true. Hey. Hey Kevin Millar bro Hall of Fame That is true. That's my point. I made that point. Nobody else has made that point. I'm humble the foot bone connected to the leg bone the leg bones connected to the

Want to see my put that in the club guy Don't connect. OK, you know what? Let me count your freckles. No, no. How many freckles do you got? No, no, no, no, no, no. You definitely got to get them. Want to see my foot in the club, guys. Rooting comedy. Greg Cody, major penalty. Five minutes, B-maximum. Major penalty, five minutes, high-sticking. The whole game is conduct. Major penalty, five minutes, rooting comedy.

Out, like out for a long time. What's the maximum number of people in hockey that can be off the ice? Look, look, you have crossed the line, man, when you're aggressively shouting after I've already told you that Lewis is an idiot for going in on freckled balls over here, threatening our audience with our-

They're not actually freckled, it's weird. Really? It's actually only where the sun shines. I don't believe that. I mean, I don't have a lot like on my belly. How about on your ass? Let me see your belly button. I'll show you my ass.

No, you know what? You know what? No. I think Bob was right. You know what? This show, this, what he just did. If you notice on the inside of my arm, much less than on the outside of my arm.

Oh wow. That's where the sun is more. Hair also, why is that? Does sun cause hair to grow? Does it? You guys didn't let me get to what I wanted to get to. Bottom of D. Which is the LeBron James post-season ad and also Feisty Tua.

Now we've run out of time. We have another segment, we're doing Feisty Tua. After Ron McGill, we are doing Feisty 2. Oh, Ron McGill today. Yes, Ron McGill on a Friday. We've also got Jim Trotter as well. But I don't know what to do, Billy. You're, you're...

We just got done with a segment, I think it deserved all of those penalties, where Amin aggressively shouted at the YouTube audience for some reason on a Friday with just truly terrible judgment, here cameras, come find my balls. Like that- At least he said it as a question,

do you want to see my balls? I think that's what he said. No, like honestly. The answer's no. No, affirm no. Not for everyone. Stugatz here for my friends over at Simply Safe. The holiday season is right around the corner.

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