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This is the Don LeBattor show with the StuGuts podcast
You guys hear that sound
What's that? You hear that? Wait, wait, wait, wait that, the Miami Marlins are back. Yeah.
He's right.
Nine out of 12.
13.
Nine out of 13.
There you go.
Swept the Giants big time.
That's a good team.
Making moves.
This is the beautiful thing about baseball, right?
You look at your record, you say, hold on.
I mean, how can the Miami Marlins,
who are 34 and 45, be on the move, right?
But there's so much season left.
There's so much season left.
Who would have thought the Marlins would be buyers?
We're not even at the All-Star break yet.
It's not happening, it's not happening.
Well, you never know.
You don't think they'd be buyers?
Why not? A little bit.
Out of the cellar, not even in last, in the NL East anymore't think they'd be buyers? Why not? A little bit.
Out of the seller, not even in last in the NL East anymore.
That's how you call your way out.
Out of the seller, maybe still sellers,
but they're not in the seller and that's all that matters.
So has Sandy been bad because he doesn't want to get traded?
No, he's been good now.
Sandy's been good over his last four starts.
He's good again.
Oh, he's good again.
That's why you gotta trade him now, who knows?
He's coming off of Tommy John.
You know, it takes a lot longer than 10 months
to actually come back from that,
and his rehab was essentially in games
during the regular season.
Those were his rehab starts.
So he's looking back to normal.
This is, hey, they lead baseball
in hits and batting average this month.
Wow. There you go.
And this month is in like two years old either.
Doesn't really matter in terms of scoring runs, necessarily.
But yesterday, hey, season high, 12 runs,
Augustine Ramirez, that kid's real good.
You know what they call it?
They call it baby steps, baby steps.
You work your way up.
You can't be awesome out the gate.
You gotta work yourself up with baby steps.
Now here's my question though,
because you raised an excellent point.
The trade market is such a fickle thing.
You got to guys, I got to get rid of him.
I got to get rid of him.
But no, his stock is terrible right now.
We're not going to get good value back.
Okay.
Wait till he starts playing well.
He starts playing well and then they say, got to get rid of him.
I don't know.
Hold on now.
Hold on.
Let the man cook.
10 months at the Tommy John.
So Zazz, are you of the belief that hey I had a plan
from the beginning to get rid of him as soon as I got good return on value and
I'm sticking to it or do you adjust and say it looks pretty good and we're
winning? Well okay we're winning. Baseball is still 162 games. Yeah. All right so
yes they're winning right now. The fact of the matter is, you only keep Sandy Alcantara if his prime aligns with when
you think you're going to be a contending team.
So this year.
And the answer to that would be, they don't align.
So you have to trade him now.
And maybe you get two, three huge prospects and you need all of it to align together at the same time.
I will say the one thing when it comes to Sandy
that was always the case from the beginning of the year
and remains the case, because it's obvious
he's returning to form, is that Sandy is not
in an expiring contract right now.
There's two more years of control,
of one more year of the contract,
one more year of a club option.
So the reality is, is if the Marlins don't get
the type of package that they want for a player like Sandy,
at this year's deadline, they hold onto him,
and look, I know that ownership loves Sandy,
this front office loves Sandy,
this coaching staff loves Sandy, Sandy loves to be here.
So it's the type of thing where some teams
that go through a rebuild keep one guy
as the stalwart of that foundation.
Moving through that, you can see Freddie Freeman
on the offensive side with the Braves.
He did that with them where they got bad
and got good around him.
Maybe Sandy is someone who gets to stay here
for the long term and if not,
the Marlins really have all the leverage at the moment.
The rare opportunity to keep Sandy on the beach.
If the Marlins have won nine out of 13,
why is Dane Meyer so upset?
I mean, this was-
He's so mad.
Do we have this video?
He's been so good too.
Very impressive what he did.
So he struck out, paint the picture here, Jeremy.
What's the scenario here?
Why is he so upset?
It's just a strikeout.
It's just a standard strikeout in the regular season.
Didn't he go like hit list in the series?
Yeah, he had gotten his batting average up to about 330.
He's been one of the best players
on the Marlins this season.
If they're gonna have an offensive player
who's at the All-Star game,
he may be that player, him or Kyle Stowers.
Now, they could have a pitcher.
For the audio audience,
he snaps a bat that isn't broken over his knee.
Now, are we holding against him that he does go for the thin part of the bat?
He goes for the handle.
No, because you know what?
He does it so fast that when you watch it in real time, you can't tell that he did it
over the thin part.
Like, it looks smooth.
Yeah, I don't think it was premeditated as one fell swoop grab swing back, right?
But again, your team is up eight five. It's the fifth inning. He wanted to add on some runs
It's like a me guy. Yeah, I mean you guys are up. I don't think so. I think that's a team first guy
You wanted to add on he was mad. Apparently the announcers called it Bush. Yeah
I don't do they understand what the definition of Bush is
He didn't do anything wrong to any, it's Bush.
If your behavior is directed at the other team,
that's when something's Bush.
If anything, he just complimented the pitcher.
He was so angry by the pitcher striking him out
that he snapped a bat over his leg.
What is Bush about that?
And by the way, after snapping that bat over his leg
in the fifth, he came up in the eighth inning, singled the center, after a walk to start the way, after snapping that bat over his leg in the fifth, he came up in the eighth inning,
singled the center, after a walk to start the inning,
ended up scoring in that inning.
Marlins scored four runs.
So in his next at bat, he got a hit.
All that is just letting go of some emotion,
getting to the next at bat, and moving through it.
And that's why Dane's had such a good year.
He's been a really, really, really good center fielder
for the Marlins this season.
That's how you bust slumps, boys.
Take a bat, break it over your leg,
let everybody know you're upset.
Some people might call you a me person.
Just let it all out.
Let it all out, come back, drive in some runs.
The idea, though, of a team that is eight games under 500,
poised to make a run.
Like I said, baseball, the season is so long.
It makes everything in play, even the most ridiculous.
One of my lasting favorite baseball memories was,
it was I think on Bob Costas' show,
and they had Mad Dog on there.
And this was the year the Giants won the Super Bowl
against the Patriots, right?
And also the year the Mets collapsed.
And you know, Bob asked Mad Dog for New York radio,
how would you rate those stories?
The Giants making some probable run for the wild card,
beating the best team of all time.
It's a 9.9 out of 10 for us in terms of radio topics.
The Mets being in number one at the beginning of September
and missing the playoffs.
That's a 10.
That's a 10 out of 10. That's a 10 out of 10. Yeah, that's 10.
That's a 10 out of 10.
And again, that's the thing that can only happen in baseball.
What a time to be alive in New York sports radio.
Oh my God, those two things happening at the same time.
We got two stories, one of them is a 10 out of 10,
the other one is a 9.9, which you want to talk about today.
But the idea that like, hey, even with like a month
to go in the season, or a few weeks to go to the season,
you can still f*** this whole thing up.
Yeah.
As is remarkable. And the opposite, right?
The opposite of which is, even though you've been terrible,
going a little bit of a heater, all of a sudden,
things don't sound so ridiculous.
Yeah, yeah.
No, baseball, I mean, like, I remember
when the Marlins won the World Series in 2003,
if you're invested in a baseball team the entire season.
The best.
And that year, it was a summer where I was,
it was my last summer in college.
So me and my buddy were like,
we're just gonna watch every Marlins game every night.
And this was before the season started.
Marlins were supposed to be bad.
We had no idea they were gonna be any good.
Matter of fact, they started bad.
They were 10 games under 500, they fired the manager.
When you're invested in baseball
where you're watching every night
and your team ends up being good, ends up being a storyline late in the season,
yeah, that's baseball at its best.
Baseball is really good if you're invested, you watch every single night, and your team is interested.
All this baseball talk, I'm going to go next week.
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No, I've been.
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Hell yeah.
The fun part about this type of part of an MLB season
for a team that, let's be real,
probably doesn't miraculously turn into a team
that makes the postseason,
is making a really fun run right now.
And maybe-
Oh, the NBA news, it never stops.
According to Shamsherani of ESPN.
Who did he trade for?
Masai Yajiri is out as vice chairman
and president of the Toronto Raptors.
Sources tell ESPN, this is a cataclysmic move.
Could it be the guy who got drafted
not being happy to be there?
He's like, you know what, I'm outta here.
You don't wanna be here, I'm outta here.
It's the last straw. You drafted. If you don't wanna be here, I'm outta here. It's the last straw.
You drafted a guy who doesn't wanna be here.
But then you saw on whoever's Instagram account,
I don't know if it was his or if it was a team,
they posted a picture of him as a kid
wearing the old school Toronto Raptors shirt.
That doesn't mean anything.
Kids wear anything nowadays.
Was that the rare happy F word?
It didn't look happy.
I'm so happy.
It didn't look happy.
But so this is really interesting.
So this isn't him like being moved to a different role.
He's out of the organization?
He's out according to reports by Shamshirani.
Here's the issue, right?
First of all, there's no way they like did not want him
around all of a sudden.
This is one of those things where they knew.
So you think he wanted out?
Now here's the problem.
There were multiple jobs that were open this off season.
The Sun's job was open, right?
It went to Brian Gregory, because he
went to Michigan State.
The Hawks job was open.
It went to Anse Saleh, who was in that organization already.
The Nuggets job was open. That to bend tensor and uh... john wallace both
of that one guy was working for the night as well i had worked for the
night
there were opportunities for him to go out and get a job
they waited
all the jobs got filled and now he's out
and he was in the final year of his deal and he's in the final year of his deal. And he's in the final year of his deal.
I kind of feel like.
Did he want to interview and they didn't let him?
Well it says that Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment
and NUJERI have decided to part ways as well.
He was entering the final year of his deal.
So this does feel like the type of thing of saying
either he was trying to get an extension,
thought he might, didn't,
and then now is frustrated that he knows
he's gonna be on his way out,
or maybe that's a situation where he did wanna go explore,
the Raptors knew that, his agent didn't handle it properly,
and now he ends up fired.
You don't get to be as good as your job
for as long as that guy's been good,
and then it comes down to the agent mishandled it like if he and the Raptors wanted to be together
They'd be together. Okay
So let's take a step back for a second because you say they're him being as good as at his job as he's been and and yes
Masayoshi already has this reputation where he's like a really good executive
Okay, how good has he been? All right, like we know going in 2018 made a huge move
to trade DeRozan, we're gonna take on Kawhi,
even though we have no guarantee that he's gonna be here,
they win the championship.
Outside of that move, like they're bad
and they've been bad for a couple of years.
How good is he actually?
That's cyclical first of all,
being bad for a couple of years. How good is he actually? That's cyclical, first of all, being bad for a couple of years.
Sam Presti was bad for how long?
For how long was he bad, right?
Not him being bad, obviously, but his team was bad.
Oh, I mean, he's been there for 17 years, so yeah.
So it happens, it happens to the best of us.
Jerry West was the GM of a bad team in Memphis, right?
Bob Myers came in and the Warriors weren't great,
and he got out as soon as they stopped being great.
So I think, and obviously we operate in a market here
where the Godfather is being tarred and feathered
on this show.
People trying to push him out so.
Despicable.
Despicable, exactly.
And you know what he needs to do?
Dime into the forehead.
Get it back.
Thank you.
Get it back.
You get it. I get it.. Get it back. You get it.
This guy gets it.
You see him get up there, by the way,
for everyone who's been questioning his acuity
and all of that stuff.
You see when they made that pick him get up there
and bust out those dance moves?
I mean, that's a man.
Were those dance moves or finger guns?
Those were finger guns, but with a little pizzazz.
And look at him saying, you see?
Veiled threats also as to like,
these are finger guns for now,
but if this talk continues.
Might turn into something a little bit.
Might. Might.
Might. Got to throw that out there.
But yeah, so Masai has had a team that won the division
a bunch of years ago. Yeah, they were good.
Been to the conference finals,
lost to a generational player.
Kept losing to LeBron.
And built a champion on a very risky move, right?
Not only trading the most popular player
in the franchise at that point.
But for one year.
For a guy who only had a year left,
for a guy who was coming off of injury concerns, right?
But it worked.
And nobody blamed him for it.
Matter of fact, and nobody blamed him for it.
Matter of fact, and that's not even to mention his tree.
So Tim Connolly, who is the GM of the Minnesota Timberlake,
he got to Denver after Masai left.
Masai, the guy who's gonna take over probably in Toronto,
Bobby Webster, is one of the brightest guys,
one of the guys that people say,
this guy should be running his own team.
It looks like it might be the opportunity right now for him.
The question I have is, what team in the league right now,
regardless if they just signed their GM
or if they've had their GM for a while,
is like, ooh, the size on the market.
Is there any team that has an opening?
There are no openings.
There are no openings at this point.
Like they all got, they all opened and got filled,
the last one being the Nuggets a couple of days ago.
Oh, so he's gonna sit out a year,
he's gonna collect on the final year of the contract.
Sure, maybe do some TV.
Imagine the vacation he's just planning right now.
Got like 12 months off, I'm gonna go to,
that's just like, I always think about that.
Anytime a really rich person gets out of work,
I just picture them being like,
where you wanna go, honey?
Like, you know, just like planning a three week vacation
across the world.
Not only that, but like, I wanna be rich.
You know how happy, you know,
I worked with Tom Thibodeau when he was at ESPN.
I'd never seen a guy so happy, man.
The dude was, he was joy every time he came in the room,
slapping backs, making jokes, asking questions.
Hey, how's it going down?
I'm like, wow, why does everyone,
why does everyone complain about this guy?
This guy's awesome.
Same thing with Stan Van Gundy.
Stan Van Gundy, we know him.
We know Stan Van Gundy.
That's fun and awesome and loves Blue Bloods
and other terrible CBS shows.
Loves Blue Bloods.
And then there's another Stan Van Gundy. There's another Tom Thibodeau.
There's probably another Masai Ujiri
who the public doesn't see.
It's a dark side.
It's a competitive side.
I wanna win.
And that, you can't turn that off.
You're not like, oh, that at work, close the laptop.
Hey honey, how was your day?
No, man, that job follows you.
It haunts you.
What job is that by the way?
Like I've yet to experience the job
where I close my laptop when the day's done
and I'm unbothered until I come into the office
the next day.
You only work at work.
Like what, whose jobs are these?
Because it doesn't seem to exist in this world anymore.
It's a good question.
Because like even my wife who has a job
that I would think has that.
What's her job?
School counselor.
Oh, no.
Counselor, man.
Still gets calls and emails and texts and stuff outside of work hours.
What if you work at a restaurant?
You don't bring that work home?
No.
No.
You would think, but when I worked in retail, when I was in college,
I worked in retail.
I had my schedule, and you'd think it'd be like,
okay, well here are the hours that,
that was one thing that they would do towards the end
that I did not like.
When I started, $4 million a year store.
When I left, $40 million a year store.
Very different store when I left
than when I entered that store.
Take credit.
And when I left.
You left it in a better place than when you got there.
Some are saying, not me. I'm not saying that it was all me.
I'm not saying it was just me, but no coincidence.
Tenfold what it was when I got there.
But I will say this, when I got there,
it was like, just give us the times that you can work.
And then when I left, it was like,
we need a printed out copy of your school schedule
so that we know we can't schedule you then, but outside of that,
we need people to be available all the time.
And it's like, hold on a second.
Your life is my life?
Is that what they're saying?
And I was like, hold on a second.
So they give you your schedule, but then they call you,
oh, you know, Jeffrey called out today,
can you come in and cut?
And it's like, don't call me today.
Why are you calling me to work retail today?
You have a couple bullet points, what was the reason call me today. Why are you calling me to work retail today? It's too much.
You have a couple bullet points,
like what was the reason for the growth?
Like, what did you implement?
It's a good time for bras and panties in this country,
if I'm gonna be honest with you.
It was a good time.
There was exponential growth.
The Victoria's Secret Fashion Show
was a cultural phenomenon at the time.
Pink, the brand, started taking off.
Little doggies were everywhere.
People wanted those plush doggies.
It was a good time to be in the Victoria's Secret empire.
It might have been timing, it might have been me.
Who knows?
How is it now?
Do we know?
Right when he left, fell off.
You know, we don't need to get into it right now.
They had those documentaries, it turns out.
There's Deep Dark Secret, Victoria's.
There were secrets at Victoria's Secret, it turns turns out I wasn't privy to them what was
Victoria's secret what was the secret like that she was a scandal go out there
you thought it was just a dress he's like well what's going on down there
that's a joke friends I'm sorry I see Jeremy over there in the corner is very offended.
If Jeremy has that face.
I'm just shocked that you said it.
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Victoria wasn't a real person either. What?
Wow, that's not a way to talk about women.
The rumor I heard was that Victoria's secret
is that there is no Victoria
and the dude's name is Victor
and he's just kind of like some creep who's like,
oh, I think they should wear this.
I gotta be honest with you.
That was a rumor.
There wasn't like a, okay,
so like when you get a job
at most companies, you don't sit down for like
a history lesson of the company and where the names
came from, so I don't know all of that.
I don't know the name where it came from and all that.
I do know that there was all those documentaries
and I think the business wasn't as booming.
Hey Zaz, did Dan ever tell you why
we're called Metalogue Media?
No.
Maybe Billy's onto something.
I do actually know the answer to that.
Because when they told us the name,
they gave us that whole origin story.
Oh, really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
World Trotters, right?
Do you guys remember?
Like some bird of flight.
Yeah, it was like some bird that rises
with the dawn of a new sun or something like that.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like something about birds.
I do believe that was my idea.
If I can go back to Masayoshi, really? Yeah, yeah, it's like something about birth. I do believe that was my idea. Ha ha ha ha ha. If I can go back to Masai Ujiri for a minute.
Yeah, sure, go ahead.
When do you think is the appropriate time for the wife?
You know, Masai Ujiri, he comes home today,
I assume he was already at the office.
He comes home today, tells his wife,
yeah, we're out, we're free.
What's the appropriate timing for the wife
to start planning the vacation?
Because you know she's thinking about it.
When do you get to start planning?
Because you don't want to be crass
where it's like you're already online
and you're checking for the getaway.
You gotta give it a little time to breathe, right?
You're ready on Expedia. I I have Masai Yajiri coming home
and knowing it's only a matter of time
before she finds out, so let me just stall this
as long as possible.
She said, how was work?
It was fine.
And then the next day you get up and you leave
and you go to work.
You're not going to work.
I'm doing that thing of like, I'm still going to work.
Yeah, you get up, you get dressed,
you put on your suit and die.
Goes to like Barnes and Noble.
Yeah, let's just sit there.
Look for a new job.
Not even looks like.
Reading the classifieds. Not even looks for a new job. Not even reading the classifieds.
Not even looks for a new job.
Just sit there and just enjoy the silence.
That was me after the ESPN thing.
Yeah?
Just going to like a coffee shop.
I started a day trader account.
I was like, I'm gonna attack the market.
Here we go.
This was during the pandemic.
Remember, this was like when everyone
was getting into the stock market.
Did you tell your wife?
Oh no I did, I'm half kidding.
But there was a couple days before I went back to the show
I did like in the morning go to a coffee shop
and I'm like, got my TV account here,
I'm getting that resume, you never know.
Did you get that weird attachment that people have
on their laptops that opens up like two more screens?
Oh no.
I never understand, why do people need multiple screens?
Maybe I'm an idiot, maybe I'm an idiot
and I live the blessed life, just talking about people
who chase balls around and stuff.
But why do people need three screens?
My wife's obsessed with this, she just got a third one.
She's like, it's so exciting, now my mouse moves across
all, it's just like.
But why?
Why not just get one really big screen?
I use multiple screens.
Or alt tab, alt tab, alt tab, alt tab, alt tab, alt tab, why why why
why do you like screens? I have two screens screens in the Zaslow Mansion
Network Studios. I use two screens. They have different
responsibilities. Give me the responsibilities for each screen. Well for
instance on one of them I'm recording myself when I'm doing Zazzlow Show 2.0
And on the other one it might have, you know, my advertising reads
Or I'm on the internet, you know, so they have different functions
They're both being used at the same time
You stare at yourself when you're recording?
Yeah, yeah, everyone does that, right?
I'm, look, I'm out here, I'm looking up stuff, I'm typing stuff
It's like you do a solo show
Yeah
There's no co-host that you gotta read visual cues off of.
No.
You just stare at yourself.
Yeah, I think everyone does that though.
I don't think that's a strange thing.
I've never done a solo show, so usually if I'm in a Zoom,
I do see myself, but I'm looking at the other person.
I'm looking at the other people.
If I was doing a solo show, I might minimize it,
because I don't, what do I need to see myself in?
Well yeah, I mean it's on a smaller screen,
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There are people who make a joke and they laugh.
I don't do that.
So I, there's not any laughing on Zaz.
I'll make jokes, but I'm not laughing.
I don't laugh at my jokes.
Do you make the joke and then just pause
and let that silence sit so that people in their cars?
I don't think you could do that
when you're doing a solo show.
I don't know if it has the same effect.
But yeah, that is a thing. I I just realized I can't remember the last time
I listened to a podcast or a radio show with a solo host other than Zazzle to pay everyone out there Zazzle show
2.0 all right like rate subscribe tell your mother I say hello
They don't listen you don't send the Samson either not Samson not
Bomani not coward like if they have an interesting
guess all those people just like especially counties he's gonna like
cool the guy you know Mac and I and Rachel sometimes and yeah I'm by myself
yeah man I mean like I just I don't know what that sounds like I'm being honest
I'm not it's like I don't even know what that sounds like to listen to for 60
straight minutes of someone just talking right how do you break it?
Up, so it's not just one long like it's not one long Jeremy answer
Yeah, I just I I guess I just know how to transition you know I know what to go from topic to topic
I use sound like I'll play audio bytes, and I react to them
You know throughout the show and those are on another screen that you got queued up no no they're on the screen
I'm recording on
because this way it's all in the same file.
The multimedia is on one screen.
That's right, it's all in the same file.
The text is on another, got it.
Yes, correct.
Well, back in the day also you'd take calls
when you had the phone banks you'd have there
and you'd have to call, what is this caller thing
about this and that?
I wasn't a big caller guy though
when I was doing my radio show.
I feel like the people are tuning in to listen to me.
That's a good point. I have some closure if you want I was doing my radio show, you know? I feel like the people are tuning in to listen to me. Call them, you know?
That's a good point.
I have some closure if you want to close some loops
on Victoria's Secret and its founding
and its name and all of that.
I love closed loops.
So Victoria's Secret was founded by Roy and Gay Raymond,
a couple, and Roy was very, you know.
They called him Gay Raymond?
No, that was the wife.
Oh.
G-A-Y-E, yeah. I thought, I thought. I mean, that was. I oh she a ye I thought I thought that
was I thought it was to do that was an unfair and then there was gay Raymond
no we got we just call Raymond that is not I just called Raymond Raymond's a
last name yeah like Billy that's aggressive well no so like Roy would go
into the store but Roy would be very bashful in going to the store because
found it was embarrassing to be buying gay,
the lingerie.
So.
Gay Raymond.
Yeah.
It was an embarrassing situation.
Oh.
It was an embarrassing situation.
So Victoria's Seek was actually founded
to be a comfortable place where men could buy lingerie
for women.
Really?
That's what it was designed, it says right here.
I don't feel safe there at all.
Excuse me, it says right here.
In 1977, according to Wikipedia,
in 1977 Raymond borrowed $40,000 from family
and $40,000 from a bank to establish Victoria's Secret,
a store in which men could feel comfortable
buying lingerie.
The store was named.
Who were these men?
The store, Raymond. Gay Raymond. men? The store... Roy Raymond.
Gay Raymond.
Gay.
No, that was the wife. The store was named in reference to Queen Victoria and the associated
refinement of the Victorian era while the secret was hidden underneath the clothes.
Bodices and chastity belts and stuff like that. Okay. All right, I'm with it.
I don't feel safe walking in that store.
No, I don't at all.
I haven't.
Well, it's changed since all Roy Raymond.
So what was it like back in the day
they had like beer and sports on TV and stuff?
Like, hey, come buy your wife some drawers.
I don't think so.
I have a thing with my wife where every Christmas
I buy her a $50 gift card,
which is barely enough at that place.
Jeez, that place.
Socks.
You can't even get a bra for that.
Maybe I do more, but like I always do that.
And I just make a beeline for the register.
What am I gonna peruse in here?
A man can't peruse in Victoria Seek it.
Okay, hold on.
You look creepy.
Billy just said a $50 gift card barely gets you a bra.
Oh, it gets you nothing.
I'll be perfectly honest.
I have no idea how much a bra costs.
I just know it's expensive.
It depends what you wanna get.
I don't have a clue.
It could be 10, it could be 9.99, it could be a 100. nine. I have no idea what a I think a nice set is like close to 50 bucks
I've set what does that mean like like like the lingerie the bra and the panties like a set
I'm missing more than 50 more than 50. I'm mrs. Zazzle right now. Jeremy's looking at girls and bras on I'm
HR
HR trying to company Jeremy's looking at bras on his computer. HR, company computer, Jeremy's looking at bras on his computer.
Here's the Victoria's Secret catalog.
Take that out for me.
Jeremy, do we have an HR?
NSFW?
How much?
Your show research, what'd you learn?
Jeremy.
Jeremy.
Now I had to exit the tab.
Stay strong, brother.
Stay strong, brother.
Sometimes you gotta do show research,
and they wanna shame you for it.
Show research. Because you're trying to be
Who knows stay strong see your friend gave the heat a D plus
Who gave him a D plus your friend from your friends your friend from that incident that you just referenced your boy
He seems to not like this this organization
He had the guy that he drafted going like 14 or 15 and then he'd get him at 20 and it's a D plus pick he seems to have like a like a
distaste for this organization at every turn there's boobs on Jeremy's computer
right now what all right how much what is the research you're doing the research
Jeremy not even faces told on chat GPT that bras can be
between 30 and 70 dollars.
Just the bra.
Yeah.
Wow.
That's what I'm seeing here Tim.
No bundle.
Except there's one for 8.99.
8.99?
See I told you, 9.99, I was close.
Not a Vicky's.
Where is that from?
Not a Vicky's.
Go back to that, no.
Oh go back to the tab now?
It's one cup, the 8.99 one, just one.
One big cup?
Yeah, just one cup. That's what cup, the 899 one, just one. One big cup? Yeah, just one cup.
That's what I thought he was saying when he said pear.
I was like, oh, otherwise.
If only we had someone that used to work there
that could tell us what the price is.
I told you, I told you.
50's probably not gonna get it done.
The thing is they were always launching new bras
and then they would like.
There was a new bra technology.
The latest bra.
No, the girls that worked there loved it
because sometimes they would either give you a discount
or you could claim one.
And then it was because the idea was then you'd tell
the clients, oh, this is comfortable, blah, blah, whatever.
For me, it was just like I'd give it to my sister,
my mom or whatever.
And then the perfumes and stuff like that,
when there's new ones, they'd give you samples
and I'd just find people to give them to.
I mean, I didn't need them.
Chris, how would your wife feel if you like,
hey, honey, I left the show,
I don't wanna do this media thing anymore,
I'm gonna work at Victoria's Secret now.
I mean, I don't think she'd be jealous
if that's what you're like, I mean,
I think she'd be like, how much are you gonna be making?
Let's assume the money is even, break even.
I mean, like she'd ask you what the discount is, right?
Yeah, I think she'd be fine with it.
And what's the level of stability?
I, have you seen the media recently?
That's what I'm saying.
You're talking about stability?
Shit, ain't nobody here got stability?
Stability?
You're talking about stability?
That's why I'm saying she'd probably be happy
to do her job. Yeah.
Matter of fact, you're on the site right now.
Get Victoria on the line?
Employment opportunities.
Look it up right now.
Job opportunities, I got you, all right.
Let me see, because I'll do it right now.
I'll do it live on air.
What will you do?
I'll quit this job and I'll go work at Victoria's Secret.
Very stable.
Stability.
Why?
Stability, stability, fall tab.
I think we have three years. Boobs again, boobs again on his computer.
That's unemployment opportunities?
Surprisingly enough, yeah, the first picture.
That's what's there.
Here's about the culture.
Fostering a happy, healthy, and inclusive culture
is our top priority.
We believe in our associates giving back to our communities
and putting the customer first.
It's been that way since our beginning.
I will find job opportunities.
I'm gonna bring the culture back.
I'm gonna bring on some flat screen TVs,
sports on, kegerators.
We're gonna make this a safe space
for guys to walk in and buy lingerie for their women.
That's the original, that's why they founded the place.
That's why they founded the place.
I don't know if that's gonna work out.
Imagine a Chick-fil-A all of a sudden started selling like,
I don't know, hot dogs. And then everyone's like, oh, I love the Chick-fil-A hot dogs. And started selling like, I don't know, hot dogs.
And then everyone's like, oh, I love the Chick-fil-A hot dogs.
I would come in, I'm like, I want to take it back to why it was found they wanted chicken.
Is that what Dairy Queen does?
Dairy Queen's got that chili dog, I told you all.
Yeah, the player?
I gotta get back to Dairy Queen.
I gotta go in there and say, hey guys, we've lost our way.
We're Dairy Queen.
We're not hot dog queen.
We're not chicken strips queen. we're not Chicken Strips Queen.
They also got Pretzel Bites.
Pretzel Bite Queen?
Would you like a job in corporate
at the distribution centers or in stores?
You could see me working, Victoria, see a corporate.
No. You could see that.
No. What?
In a meeting room and a chart.
And more.
Q3 sales are up 20 points.
You're like, hee hee hee.
Ha ha ha ha.
This is our newest technology.
Ha ha ha ha. He's blushing the whole time during the meeting.
I will say this, in terms of stability,
like some weeks, I got 20 hours.
Some weeks, I got four.
No way.
Yeah, it's like, it goes up, it's ebbs and flows,
depending on the year, they have a lot of seasonal,
look, I'm speaking on the way things were nearly 15 years ago at this point,
if not more.
So there's ebbs and flows, there's the busy seasons,
there's the semi-annual sales.
What's the busiest season for, other than Christmas?
I think you just nailed it.
Christmas is the busy season for every retail place.
That's a busy season, and then they have a semi-annual sale.
Yeah, but that's not a season season, you know what I mean?
That's a couple weeks.
Yeah, like a couple weeks before.
But I bet you get a nice little bump that week,
like the week leading up.
Yeah, then like, the day before.
Yeah, but then the day, the couple days after,
then you're dealing with returns and you're like,
is this a size thing or is this like a...
They wore it and then they were in the bag.
Yeah, like it's a whole...
How do they handle that?
Can I tell you, the strangest one that I remember
was like someone came and was like,
I bought this bra five years ago
and like it's worn out now and it didn't last.
And it's like, well yeah,
cause you wore it for five years.
And then like I had a manager who's like, okay, we'll honor that. And I'm like, what? I was like, wait, because you wore it for five years. And then I had a manager who's like, OK, we'll honor that.
And I'm like, what?
I was like, wait, what?
Is this like the old Costco policy?
Remember Costco?
You could come in, this TV stopped working.
I bought it seven years ago.
They're like, all right.
Well, we don't carry that one anymore.
So get the equivalent, which is this brand new flat screen.
You know what I learned in retail?
A lot of it is all about the attitude
in which you bring to the table
on some of these exchanges and returns.
Coaches.
If you're coming in hot,
and it's a judgment call,
which a lot of them, it's a judgment call,
you're like, all right, I'm not gonna,
you're here screaming at me,
I'm not gonna be putting up with this.
Be decent and you got a good shot.
If you're nice, more often than not,
like if you're nice, they'll be more willing
to help you on certain things.
Is that not a life?
I mean that works.
I do that all the time.
You're like really, really difficult though,
and it's like you have the right person,
they also just wanna get you.
They're like whatever you want man, just get out of there.
So like it's about.
You're saying you have to be on one extreme or the other.
Exactly, either really nice or like a really terrible person.
I go with the really nice.
Threaten to call corporate.
So I don't know about retail,
but I know for flights and hotels,
when they mess up, I tell my friends all the time,
you have to go ballistic.
Because if you're like, oh man,
I missed my kid's wedding as a result,
and they're like, oh okay, we'll give you 7,000 miles.
I'm like, 7,000 miles?
That's nothing.
That's nothing, right?
As opposed to, I once called American Airlines
and told them, if I have to pay for this hotel
because they messed up.
I will tweet about this.
No.
And I'm famous.
Well, I brought that up secondarily.
I said, if I have to pay for this hotel tonight
so I can fly on them, I'll do it
and I'll fly out tomorrow morning.
But from here on out, every single trip I take,
no matter how many connections,
will be on Delta Airlines and I will tweet about it
every single time and I've got followers.
I'm on TV.
I'm on SportsNation.
I just, I hit them, I layered all that stuff.
So you either connect me with someone
who can get me a voucher or just know it's your
ass and I know they review the, you know, every call.
Your call is being recorded for quality assurance.
I'm assuring you this quality and hold on for a second.
Okay we got you, they not only got me the voucher for the night that they said they
couldn't do, can't do it, sorry that that's against our policy, can't do it, got a voucher for the night.
And, like a voucher for the bar,
got dinner paid for and a beverage.
I don't like that, you would've gotten,
my next offer would've been 5,000 miles.
So that's how you came at me.
I would've said, nope, not today.
Chris, with those two days of day trading,
finance, is that the right place to go for you here
on the job application?
I'm just trying to figure out which category.
Maybe head of mannequin assessment.
That's what?
Jesus.
I had a time where I went to a,
I got tickets.
So visual merchandising.
I got tickets to WrestleMania when it was down here,
like 10 years, 20 years ago, whatever it was, right?
Yeah, it was like 15 years ago.
And like, I was just like, because it was a spectacle,
I liked wrestling growing up.
I'm like, it'd be really cool
to just go to a WrestleMania, right?
So I was given tickets.
When we get there, they're on the upper deck
and it's blocked view because they have these big palm trees
like in the corner, whatever,
because they have a tent and we weren't expecting it.
So people are like really pissed off upstairs.
They're all upset.
They're all like the customer service line was like crazy.
Like, oh, I can't see you.
They're going crazy looking for anything to do.
They'll move you to the floor.
So my wife goes over and just like,
goes up to like, you know, someone off to the side.
It's like, hey, you know, like I was just,
we had this issue, we can't really see, whatever.
And the woman just hands her two tickets and is like, go.
Yeah.
Like just leave, don't say anything,
just walk away and go.
There you go.
Dude, we were like 100 level, like 20th row,
like right above where the cameras are.
Crazy upgrade.
Did your wife love it?
Loved it.
Wife love money.
