The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: By The Way, Shalom

Episode Date: October 3, 2024

Today's cast: Dan, Amin, Stugotz, Chris, Jeremy, Jessica, and Tony. Amin came in today fired up about, of all things, the access of broadcasts in baseball. How do fans of the game feel about in-game interviews during postseason action? Then, Dan listened to Outkast and has a questions about polaroid pictures, the entire world blames us for the Dolphins injuries, and Tony schools the crew about the origins of "writing on the wall." Plus, Craig Carton exploded on Mike McDaniel which leads the show to a conversation about how we analyze head coaches in the NFL and whether or not McDaniel is any good. Also, why is Dan so out of breath? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Kick back and enjoy game day thanks to DoorDash. DoorDash, your door to more. Download the DoorDash app now to order your game day favorites. Shadow Show. Shadow Show. Shadow Show. Shadow Show. Shadow Show. Shadow Show. Shadow show. Shadow in it. I was a bit confused when I got in here, Amin, because you were sitting in Stugatz's seat, and I also saw Stugatz on what is an important Jewish holiday, and I couldn't figure out exactly what was happening. And then I looked into the back room, and for some reason Tony was looking extra sexy today and there sniffing him nearby was Dugat who insists on being back there all of a sudden because he wants to be close to Tony and Tony has gotten very comfortable with all of this even though it feels a bit harassing to me. He's never been uncomfortable Dan. I've noticed Tony has a certain set of cool

under these types of Situations these pressure situations. He never breaks means to guys go way back to remember he went to my bachelor party Yep, perfect day at Coco K. He was there on the cruise with us at a time We had to gots is my buddy were you upset to gods that he was marrying someone other than you like What was happening at the bachelor party? How were you able to put down all of your feelings? That's real love, that you could put down all of your feelings there and be happy for Tony for marrying away from you.

I wasn't happy, I spent the entire time trying to convince Tony to leave his soon wife to be and stay with me, and it didn't work, obviously. Well, we decided half and half, right? We decided I would marry her her but that I would work here and that we could both, you know, I'd split the baby. I have this conversation happening on the fore of the, fore deck of the, I don't know, nautical terms,

but the front of the ship, right? Like right by the crest of it and they're, you know, they're cresting through the water and they're all by themselves, it's dark. It was actually the back of the boat. Really? Because the back of boats where they have the wave pool and like the little wave runner

and they have slides and stuff. So we were back there and as we were leaving Miami, you see the port, you see everything in the background, the sun setting and then we had the conversation of like, look, this is gonna happen. But just know I love you, just know that we still can be together just at work, not at home.

It's the perfect alibi. Tony, I'm gonna need a dollar from you for clearing your throat in the microphone. I don't know who gets that. I don't have cash, sorry. I got you, Tony. I can't, no, Jessica's not getting money anymore. I'm getting the money.

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Amin came in here today talking baseball, talking baseball and access in baseball, I was surprised to hear you say that you cared about something that happened in a baseball game. Well, I find it interesting. I don't think I care, but I did find it interesting. Well, if you find, put it on the poll, Juju, at Levitard Show, if you find something interesting, does it mean that you care about that subject?

I don't know why that's the correction you would make on me. I don't know, maybe it's a little bit of a sociopathic view. Like, I find a lot of things interesting that I don't care about that subject. I don't know why that's the correction you would make on me. I don't know, maybe it's a little bit of sociopathic. I find a lot of things interesting that I don't care about. Okay, but it seemed like if you brought it up conversationally to me, it was at least in part because you cared about it. I thought that that's what just happened.

I felt like that, but okay, you find it interesting. Maybe I'm an excellent conversationalist, Dan-O. I found that not to be. No? Okay, well, the Mets and found that not to be. No? Okay, well the Mets and Brewers game last night, right? It's a close game, it's a playoff game. And in the middle of the ninth inning, right,

Mets are at bat and they go to a in-game interview. And while the in-game interview is happening, a crucial play is missed because we're getting a full screen of this interview and Fans went nuts as they should have because Nothing is more important than the game itself, right? That's that should be the cardinal rule for all sports nothing can be more important than the actual thing the reason why we're all here and Nothing can be more important than the actual thing the reason why we're all here and Certainly in the televising of sports

nothing nothing can be more important in then seeing what's happening that has consequences in the ninth inning and It it made me think this is the rare time when extra access added access Usually when we hear protests from people, it's the players, I don't wanna deal with this, it's the distraction, it's management, it's the coaches, it's the people who are doing the game, they're like, why do I have to do this extra stuff? And then you get stories like David Stern

at the NBA Coaches Association meeting letting them know, hey, we're gonna be having these cameras in the locker room. And Scott Skiles says, what about the sanctity of the locker room? And David Stern says, oh, well, you know, that's a good point. On the one hand, you have the sanctity of the locker room. On the other hand, you have 200 bleeping billion dollars or whatever it was. And he basically eviscerates Scott Skiles in front of everybody and then says any other

questions and everyone's silent, right? I miss David Stern. Oh man, RIP. But in this case, the people who are pushing back on the extra access are the fans who you would think are under all circumstances, give me more, give me more, give me more, the fans, rightfully so, I think are saying, no man, I didn't need that. And then it gets into kind of like, oh, what do you need, right? so i think i said no i don't i didn't need that and

then again get into the like or what do you need right duly doesn't matter what you need anything what do you need in the modern age is the streaming services change how all of this is covered and people need more and more stimuli cuz baseball can be slow and baseball tries to grow within that and everyone universally has embraced, oh my God, the shortstop's got a mic on, and he's getting paid $10,000 for putting that mic on because they do that in baseball.

If you're in the field wearing a microphone, they pay you for it, and now there's a ground ball to short, and he's talking to the announcers, fields it, throws it to first, that's a cool moment. I like that. This has been universally applauded, the extra access. Yes, except when it gets in the way of, again, the cardinal rule, which is we got to be able to watch the thing, the reason why we're all here. And the question I ask is why did the

interview need to be full screen? Do I need to see who's being interviewed in order for that to have to pay off or value to the viewer? I think fans love the access. They want the access during regular season games. Give it to me during game 122. Postseason, the baseball is what I want to see. I don't want access. I want access to the game. Give me the game. Yeah, that's that is Gott's old school baseball. We're gonna have Mad Dog on here in a little bit to talk old school baseball.

How is it old school? I just wanna see the game. I don't want an interview with a guy who just drove in two runs for the Brewers, therefore I'm missing what's going on on the field. I don't wanna see it. I'm a Mets fan. I know what he did to me,

and I certainly don't wanna hear about it after the fact. I mean, Jesus. Isn't that up to the just crew behind the scenes to make sure that they're switching at the right time because really the Issue here was that the interview was happening and they didn't switch back to the action quick enough So to a means point you put the interview in a little box You're good to go or you know, you got to be on top of your stuff There's a pitch clock, you know when the ball is gonna be thrown you can switch back and forth between the two I mean we've had feel like we've had this for at least two decades. The idea of like, the interview starts with like,

hey, we're here with so and so, and then immediately it starts to shrink to a box that throws to the side. All right, I think I remember NBC doing stuff like that for NBA games. Just like, yeah, you just throw it to the corner and then we're watching the actual action. Another example of this happening, by the way, Dan,

1990, the first time I believe the World Cup is televised in America live and not on tape delay. And it's like, hey, soccer, this is the biggest sport in the world, we're gonna introduce it to an American audience. And, you know, because four years later, it's coming to the USA, so let's get it warmed up. Everyone's like, okay, soccer, the soccer,

what's the big fuss? And they're watching, and it was Italy against, I can't remember who, but it was a zero, zero game, and in our stupid American kind of exceptionalism way, we're like, well, nothing's happened, let's cut to a commercial right now. They cut to a commercial, the one goal is scored, the game ends one, zero, and basically you got

87 minutes of just people passing it back and forth in the middle of the field. And that was the inception of if you watch a soccer game now, they have like Visa in the corner and then it changes to like Nestle or whatever. They did that because of that game in 1990. I can't believe what Jeremy is saying is so, but in my lifetime it has not been so hey people broadcasting baseball the game's moving too fast get away from your interview and get back to my ninth inning please like that's where we are with playoff baseball

Jeremy's right though the people that are tuning in to watch playoff baseball want to see the action and for example if I'm tuning in to watch college football, I wanna see college football. I don't wanna see Aaron Judge. I don't wanna see the quarterback of another college football team being interviewed during my team's college football game, Dan. I just wanna see the action.

And if it's a little slow in between plays or pitches, then I don't know, vamp. We do that all the time, right? Just vamp. I don't need to see extra stuff. Well, you have found yourself in an unusual position of rooting against your man's teams recently, correct? Like I haven't seen a whole, I haven't,

I, Lehman, your Lehman, I have not seen you in a position before where you're secretly, does he know you were rooting against his team because you didn't want to have to watch more baseball? Yes, during the Mets doubleheader the other day, I was just openly cheering for the Braves. I just, I need two nights off during the week.

There's WNBA playoffs going on, there's college football, there's NFL, and now we got Mets games that I gotta watch. I wanna watch a Netflix show just one night of the week. Just give me one night where I can watch something on Netflix, and now we've got Mets. I walked in this morning, I said, Jerbear, did the Mets win?

He said, yep, and I said, oh, I can't keep watching them. They were so bad all year, except the month of June, because of goddamn grimace. I wrote them off months ago, I said, oh, I'm finally gonna have some free days in my fall, no playoff baseball. My team sucks, his team sucks. No, his team sucks, but they still came back

and made the playoffs, it's ridiculous. We all wrote them off. We were playing their sad broadcasters, talking about being at the bottom of a well and the bottom of the standings. Have they lured you back in, Stu Gantz? Like, are you watching? You were a few outs.

You've had your heart broken by hoping in the Jets recently, and you got really mad at them this week with everything that happened against the Broncos. Did you get sucked into the Mets were a few outs last night from not being the Mets and advancing in the playoffs, and then the eighth inning happens? They were six outs away from making it to the NLDS. I didn't think that was possible back in May, June, July.

I have been with this team the entire time, Dan. I don't know what you're talking about. That's not true. I have been a MetFan since 1978. How dare you question my bona fides? Stugats? I mean, Jess wants to watch Netflix. I want to watch MetFlix. How about that? Stugats, we played that game around here. What's the name of the game, Jeremy, where we show you a player without telling you who the player is and do a trivia game? Who that is? Yeah, thank you. Who that is, we played that with you and they showed you a picture of Francisco Lindor.

Ah, Frankie. And you did not know who the shortstop of the Mets was. Don't tell me you've been with this team the whole way. But you were watching last night, were you in the middle of it and feeling genuine Mets feelings? I was, yeah, because I feel like they blew a great opportunity to close that out.

Again, they were six outs away from advancing on to the NLDS and it was interesting to see Mendoza come in. I can't remember the name of the pitcher who was in. Was it Madden? It was Madden. And I can't believe Madden, who's been great all season, Dan. If you watch this team all year,

you know that Madden has been one of the best guys out of the pen for them. He didn't have his stuff last night. And for Mendoza to leave him in that game, six outs away from making the NLDS, in a three-three game, big spot, when it was clear to everyone he did not have his good stuff. That is a terrible job by the manager. And I'm not certain,

Dan, if they lose here game three to the Brewers, they shouldn't fire that manager. Oh, come on. You're telling me that they lost last night and they'll have to watch another game? The only game three in the wild card series. You get extra baseball, Jess. Best two words in sports, game three. the wild card series you get extra baseball Jess best two words in sports game three I was I was curious how you guys felt about What was happening in another game the announcer Ben McDonald you guys are very superstitious I am NOT and there was an announcer jinx situation where Seth Lugo is pitching and they're talking about how he hasn't allowed an extra base hit and I don't know how many games

and then immediately Cedric Mullins ends up hitting a home run. And it made me get to thinking, I didn't realize this Chris, did you realize it? A whole lot of people are noticing that all the Dolphins that we interviewed this pre-season are getting injured. That every one of them, Jalen Phillips is out now, Mostard is out, Tua is out. River Craycraft got injured like right every one of them. Jalen Phillips is out now, Mostert is out,

Tuva is out. River Craycraft got injured like right after we interviewed him. I'm not gonna lie, I'm a little worried for James Carville. It's Seeler. Seeler's still with us. Seeler's the only one. Is he the only one that has not been injured?

We've played a month of season, every person we talk to has been injured? You know who I miss right now? Bob Einstein, to just come in and say, it's all our fault, there's a curse on the show. Well, according to the audience, we killed him too. Oh, shit. So.

That is true. Do you guys believe in the announcer jinx though? Is that, that's not something you guys do, is it? And forgive me for feeling a little distracted. I am looking up the box score. I don't think that Stugatz has the right name of the right pitcher in describing what he's talking about when it comes to his team.

I don't think that he's got the right guy. Well, it's spelled M-A-T-O-N. It's Phil Maton, I believe, but he said Madden. I'm not actually sure how it's pronounced, but that's why you're confused, because it's M-A-T-O-N and you're assuming it's something different. It's pronounced Maton. It's French.

Silent T, Dan-o. Yeah. You don't know the name of the pitcher, do you? You don't? Madden. If we started quizzing you on the names of the Mets, would you be able to do their lineup? Would you even be able to do their lineup

as someone who's claiming to have followed the Mets all season and still be all about the Mets? I mean, you can give it a try. A lineup is just names. that's all it is. I mean, it's just names. I mean, it's not a test of your fandom. He's not here for a quiz, Dan. But go ahead, give it a shot if you want.

No, I just, I'm asking you. There's a Nemo in there, there's a Lindor in there, there's a polar bear in there, Peter Alonso. I mean, that's all you need to know. Nemo, you don't know. Brandon Nemo, yeah. There's not a Nemo in there. as you know, it's football season. We all love it. We like going to the games too.

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. Bob Kraft. The only reason your organization is good is because of Bill Belichick. Stugats. Belichick has done nothing since Brady left. He made the playoffs once. I think at the very least, he should not be a first ballot Hall of Famer. They should make him wait like 10 years to get it. He's an overrated coach.

This is the Don Lebatard show with the Stugats. Are you aware? I was coming in, I wanted to ask you this because I was listening to OutKast on the way in and Shake It Like a Polaroid Picture was on. Oh. And it made me actually wonder if Jeremy, Tony, and Jessica would know what it is to Shake It Like a Polaroid Picture. You probably know what a Polaroid Picture is, but do you know what Shake It Like a Polaroid Picture means? Dan, my first ever camera was a Polaroid, and you're actually not supposed to shake it. You're supposed to just let it be. Apparently shaking it is not good for the photo, but.

That was bad advice. I think I still have a Polaroid Mini. Polaroids, they had a moment in the 2000s, and now they're having a moment again. They're coming back. I think the second moment sort of ended a couple years ago, but they did have a distinct moment in the early 2020s, I wanna say. As a father of a high years ago, but they did have a distinct moment in the early 2020s, I wanna say.

As a father of a high school student, this is all the rage now, like having a Polaroid, walking around, taking pictures, and you're getting handed, like, they love this idea of the physical, wow, the photo's not on my phone, it's in my hand, and you hand it to someone, They're infatuated about this. But I have to say, Dan, this is how deep and rotten

my brain is now from doing this show for too many times, for too long. You said I was listening to OutKast and I was like, is that the OutKick podcast? They call it OutKast? I thought you meant like a podcast app called OutKast. I did all this other stuff and then I was like, oh yeah, that's right outcast

okay stop. Stu gots how did you think the the Mets relievers name was pronounced? Madden last name. Let's hear how it's pronounced. Number two and that's three consecutive strike outs for Phil Maiton. Close. You know what I'm gonna stick up for Stu gots. I don't have the volume on when I'm watching sports most of the time. You're sticking up for me there. You're not sticking up for Stu Gotts. Everybody's been making fun of me because I haven't been listening to the volume on sports for the last seven or eight years. But how would you... Okay, that's odd because you seem to be the guy who's always talking about who's broadcasting what and who does a good job on what game and all that. And every time we have those conversations,

I always slink into a corner because I have no idea who's good or bad because I'm not listening. I watch, I'm not listening though. And so Stugatz fell into the trap of a little game I like to call Things I've Read But Never Heard Out Loud. Right, and again like. One of my favorites, yeah. M-A-T-O-N, I don't know, is Madden, is it Maton? Right.

She probably should be Maton. You're assuming Boog Shambi got it right. I mean. That's another point. Right. Speaking of announcers who do it well, Jason Benetti is gonna be on with us later in the show. He does it as well as anybody.

And of course, Mad Dog as well is gonna join us. I wanna get back to though, they're blaming us for injuring the Dolphins because if Monday's game wasn't bad enough, Poyer and Phillips were injured, both of them running into each other on the same play. People are blaming us for the curse of the, Seelerers the only healthy one who has been able to get through a month of the lebatard show curse interviews you guys believe in all of this stuff I don't believe in that stuff but it's just the writing on the wall here I mean it's just it's specifically the guys we it's just you

couldn't have me granted we are we we interviewed the more popular players and they're the ones that just, they play the most, so they're the most likely to get hurt. No, I mean, that's just kinda how it works. Well, the good news is we have some sample size because we did Miami Heat media day. Me, Chris, and Izzy were there. No!

But listen, guys, listen, I think the sample size is if Dan and Stu were there, then there's an issue. Maybe Chris is the tie that binds everything, but we have at least another set of data to go off. We also interviewed Bobrovsky. That's coming out soon. Okay, so if any of those people get hurt, we know that it's Chris.

It's Chris, right. Not Dan and not- Right, correct. Got it. When Chris says the writing on the wall, why is there writing on the wall? What was the origins? Old biblical times, Dan-o.

God wrote something on the wall to the Jews in Babylonia or something like that. N think that you can you can look it up that's fine okay we're gonna look it up but I don't know what happens if I'm right well I you may have penalty box well they go to the penalty box do I do the show by myself you think you think you're gonna be right with God wrote something on a wall in Babylonia yes I think he's right but I do love that Tony's telling you to look it up after you asked us to look it up. Thank you, Stu.

Because he said I wasn't right, so I was like, okay, look at me. I'm asking if you're sure you're right, because it sounded like you threw some details at us, and Babylonia didn't, you lost me at Babylonia is where you lost me. What you did is not pay attention in Bible study class, that's what you didn't do. That's true, You seem pretty confident. Thank you. But you always seem pretty confident. Thank you.

And I don't know that, so God wrote something as a warning to the Jews on the wall in Babylonia? What was he? I mean, it was Aramaic, I guess, or whatever. The expression comes from the Bible in which the prophet interprets some mysterious writing that a disembodied hand has inscribed on a palace wall telling King Belshazzar that he will be overthrown. So I don't know if that's God to the Jews, but close enough.

It's pretty close. Is it Babylonia? Shenatova. Is it Babylonia though? He lost me on Babylonia. I love the idea of God's warning. What was the warning? Hey guys, don't eat the breakfast, it's got bacon in it.

Stu Gottz? Babylonia is not right. That part is not right. Tony, I think- How did you know? You didn't look it up. Well, I don't have to look it up. I'm Jewish, okay?

By the way, shalom. Oh yeah. I think Tony is probably, he's right about writing things to the Jews. I just think he got it wrong with Babylonia Where the king of this place? What is the place of the king? I'd like to know I'd like to Jeremy had it. What's the kingdom that he was presiding over? I would like to know you seem very confident on this and I your confidence is such that I sort of want to retreat, but I've seen you have confidence before

and not be right. Wasn't Balthazar one of the Magi? Who's King Balthazar? No, God no. What are you talking about? Another person who did not pay attention. God yes. What's Magi?

Is that plural for magic? The three people that brought gifts to Jesus. They're called the Magi? Yeah, the Magi. Three wise men. That's what we call them. Yeah, like, now they got Yeah, the Magi. Three wise men. That's what we call them. What? Oh, now they got a name?

Wiseman. The wise king. Tony was also confident about Davis Mills, so we got to take this with a grain of salt. Yeah, I know. Yes, that's true. What is the third of those? It is frankincense and myrrh.

And what is the third one? Incense. Incense? That's what it is. Gold frankincense and myrrh. Oh, it is gold frankincense. Frankincense is gold Incense is incense It is gold because I remember a Gary Larson cartoon a long time ago where the other two

Wiseman are pissed at the one that brought gold like we had we had a limit We all agreed to living to make it look like us looking assholes now It's funny because I was just telling Lehman on the way into work today religion was one of my worst classes So nice, let me play some sound here for you guys Speaking of the Dolphins who are very injured and it has a great deal to do with what it is That's happening with the Dolphins, but I want to play for you Craig Carton. He is now officially dismissing all of the Dolphins and The season is over

Four games in let's hear this. The Dolphins aren't a very good football team. Period, stop. You don't have a competent quarterback. Your head coach is the most overrated coach maybe in the history of football. It is very frustrating. Consider Mr. Mike McDaniels right now,

who's supposed to be this offensive guru and the wonder kid. He's one and six without two in those seven games they've only thrown for six touchdown passes and as you can see there a lot of turnovers not a lot of points so two two things on this right number one the dolphin season's over we can all agree to that so let's just move on from that number two and I'm asking for America right now. When do we all agree that it's time to get off the Mike McDaniel choo-choo train of he's the future of the NFL?

He has never coached a team to a playoff win. As you saw there, he stinks without Tua, who is in my opinion an average quarterback anyway, and he doesn't do anything all that creative to win games. The scheme seemed to have worked to the best offense in the league last year. So it feels like this is a bit kind of shell gamey when it comes to there's a lot of injuries and one thing that is maybe right, he has a tough time playing from behind against, you know, on the road against good teams. That is true. We've seen that. But we've also seen this offense work really, really well. I mean, tell me you're a Jets fan without telling me you're a Jets fan.

I mean, geez, that's all I heard there. Jets, I'm a Jets fan. I'm a Jets fan. I hate the Dolphins. Let me hear that again. I want to hear it again. Oh, must we? Yes. The Dolphins aren't a very good football team. Period. Stop. You don't have a competent quarterback. Your head coach, his most overrated coach, maybe in the history of football, it is very frustrating. Consider Mr. Mike McDaniels right now, who's supposed to be this offensive

guru and the wonder kid. He's one and six without two. In those seven games, they've only thrown for six touchdown passes. And as you can see there, a lot of turnovers, not a lot of points. So two things on this, right? Number one, the Dolphins season's over. We can all agree to that. So let's just move on from that. Number two, and I'm asking for America right now, when do we all agree that it's time to get off the Mike McDaniel,

choo-choo train of he's the future of the NFL. He has never coached the team to a playoff win. As you saw there, he stinks without Chua, who is in my opinion, an average quarterback anyway, and he doesn't do anything all that creative to win games. Craig Carton isn't a very good broadcaster period stop. You don't have competent leadership in this business. You have a broadcaster who's maybe the most overrated broadcaster in the history of broadcasting. It's very frustrating. Consider this. Mr. Craig Cartons,

who's supposed to be an offensive guru and wonder kid. He's a three and a half years in prison without a microphone. In those three and a half years he only defrauded 4.8 million dollars from investors and as you can see there lots of blackjack, lots of securities fraud, wire fraud. Two things on this. Number one Fox Sports' reputation is over. We can all agree on that. So let's move on from that. Number two, and I'm asking for America right now, when do we all agree that it's time to

get off the Craig Carton Choo-Choo train? That he's not the future of broadcasting. He's never broadcasted credibly. As you saw there, he stinks without the shock jockey stock, which in my opinion is average anyway, and he doesn't do anything creative. I do kind of agree with him though. Same.

Also, Dan, you needed to be a lot more breathless when you did that in order to really hit those. Higher pitch too. Where were you? Get over here. True, true, try it. I was like, damn, man, get that guy an oxygen tank. An octave higher, too, would have been great. You did a little too low. Usually you're a little...

I'm not good at the shock jockey stuff. You want to try it again? Maybe hit the casino before you come into work before you do it next time? Yeah. Do some jumping jacks so you can get a little out of breath. All right, let's see if I try it again. Have a heater.

I want to see Dan do jumping jacks. Okay. All right, so we're going to coach Dan up. There we go. He should do it while he's doing jumping jacks. Get, all right, so we're gonna coach Dan up. There we go. He should do it while he's doing jumping jacks. Get those arms all the way down, Dan-o. Arms straight.

Too much. All the way down, all the way down. All we're trying to do is get the cardio up, guys. We're not trying to get a full workout here. Get him to do some high knees. Greg would die if he did this. They want you to do some high knees. Greg would have already been dead.

Get some high knees, okay. Whoa, whoa, whoa, the same time. Alternate, alternate. You're doing something. All right high knees, okay. Whoa, whoa, whoa. The same time, there it goes. Alternate, alternate. That's something. You're doing something. All right, I think that's enough, right? I don't want them to drop dead on us.

All right, here we go, Dan. Now, do it again. Little bit more high pitch. Yep. And a little bit, give us some oomph. Shh. I don't think I'm breathless enough, though. Yeah.

Yes, you are. More jumping jacks, go ahead. He's there, go. No, he's not. How about. Open the gate, close the gate. Hip flexion. Okay. So, for the listening audience, we've got Dan doing calisthenics here. He's trying to get

his heart rate up, get a little out of breath so he can better recreate the carton experience. Ladies and gentlemen, this is called method acting, right? Some people they just walk in there and they just do the lines not not not delibes are not delibes art he goes to all the motions to get himself prepared for the role here we go karen carton isn't a very

good broadcaster period stop you don't have competent leadership in this business yellow broadcaster who is maybe the most overrated broadcaster in the history of broadcasting. It's very frustrating. Consider this. Mr. Craig Cartons now, who's supposed to be this offensive guru and wonder kid, he's three and a half years in prison without a microphone. This is too breathy. In his three and a half years, he only defrauded without a microphone this to bretti going to go is three and a half years he only defrauded four point eight million dollars from investors and as

you can see there a lot of blackjack lot of securities fraud and wire fraud two things on this fox sports reputation is over we can all agree that so let's move on from that number two and i'm asking for america right now when do we all agree it's time to move off of craig carton chuchu train

that is the future broadcast he's never broadcast incredibly as you see there he stinks without the shock jocky stuff which in my opinion is average anyway, and he doesn't do anything creative. Good stuff. Way better. Daniel Day lebatard.

How about that? Still not good enough. It's still, it's still. Again? No, well, you think I should do it again? But the dolphin season is over, right? Oh yeah, I totally agree with him. And McDaniel has to wear some of that.

Does he? Some of it to wear some of that. Does he? Some of it, not all of it. It's always interesting to me when it's like coach who wins with great talent and then the talent gets hurt and everyone's like, you're not that good of a coach. Well. That's why I said some, not all.

It just doesn't make sense to me. People wanted Phil Jackson to win a championship with like Smush Parker and Kwame Brown. I'm like, well, that's not how this thing works. Right, that's not how it works. And by the way, you can't say two is an average quarterback and also Mike McDaniel doesn't do anything. Like it's gotta be one or two.

Either two is amazing and anybody could have done that. Or Mike McDaniel's a pretty good coach who got this average quarterback to lead the best offense in the league. But you can't have them both. Carton mentioned the Mike McDaniel choo-choo train and I can't think of anything both. Carton mentioned the Mike McDaniel choo-choo train, and I can't think of anything more frustrating than being on the Mike McDaniel choo-choo train,

because it's like, all right, I'm in Miami, I need to get to Broward. It's going to take me to West Palm Beach first, and he's just going to make a stop here. It's meandering, this train that I'm on. Inefficient. And it's like, I need point A to point B. It's going to totally crap out and the engine's gonna fall out

once it gets cold in Kansas City. That's why you hop off now. I mean, that's what he's saying, Carton's right. The carton train doesn't sound much better though. Dan mentioned that. That's not a lot of, not great trains we're talking about.

The carton train goes to prison. I think it doesn't help Mike McDaniel at all that when Garoppolo gets hurt, all of a sudden the last pick in the draft is Brock Purdy, and he's suddenly doing that in San Francisco. But Dan, we always talk about this. We talked about this with Tom Brady. We talked about it with Russell Wilson.

I know Brock Purdy was the last pick, but is it that Shanahan is just this genius who can literally take anybody and win with him, or is it, hey, maybe we all whiffed on this talent in the draft? Well, we've been having this conversation for a long time. One of Greg Cody's best lines in the Miami Herald, I've told you this before,

Chicago Bulls are playing the Miami Heat in the playoffs. They are up 3-0, they have Michael Jordan. Phil Jackson has to go to his son's graduation, and he helicopters into a Bulls Heat game when the Bulls are up 3-0. And Greg Cody wrote, never has a man rushed more to a place he was needed less. Of course you need great players.

He's a writer. Of course, of course you need great players, but you rarely see what just happened to the Dolphins, which is the tide has totally turned on Mike McDaniel in two games because of how bad they look, because of how good he made them look before that. It's totally changed. The way the noise has gotten now,

because what Tony was saying is so, I'm still breathless. That offense, what we saw from to who we thought Might be average. I mean, mm-hmm was that he led the league in passing and Rare is the time where you see something happen like that from average To leave the league in passing. I don't understand how that happened. It must be the coach It must be the coach who has fixed everything there. And then as soon as Tua leaves,

the coach loses all of his genius because he cannot do it with anybody. Well, he can't do it with Skyler Thompson, who we all agree isn't good enough to be a QB1. We would have all agreed when Brock Purdy was drafted, he's not good enough to be QB1 either. when Brock Purdy was drafted, he's not good enough to be QB1 either. Unless Brock Purdy was good and we just didn't know it, right? Sure, he's good.

But again, it's the scheme, it's the players, it's the offensive line, it's the playing complementary football with the defense who's best in the league. It's very easy to step in and just play point guard when you have everything. It's like playing quarterback at Alabama. Yeah, I've got a guy who's 17 years old who's going to kind of step in and just play point guard when you have everything. It's like playing quarterback at Alabama Yeah, I've got a guy who's 17 years old who's gonna lead the NCAA and receiving it's like, oh, okay cool

Here's another discussion to have because we had this Chris before the season started Why not sign Ryan Tannehill, right? And everyone's like well Ryan Tannehill wants to start well, like well clearly on day one He's not gonna start anywhere 32 teams have their quarterbacks wants to start with like well clearly on day one he's not gonna start anywhere 32 teams have their quarterbacks but if I were Ryan Tannehill the team I would pick is the one with the quarterback who has a history of getting knocked out and that this place was the perfect place and to me if Ryan Tannehill were here right now to have stepped in and went to camp and did all the reps and everything

and I steps in are we having this conversation maybe because there have been other injuries. Maybe because again, we had some losses in the offensive line over the last season. He'd be more likely to look at least like Mason Rudolph. Yes. Not great, but competent. Right. That's sort of my point is that they should still be able to beat the Titans at home on Monday night against the Titans backup quarterback too. But at the same time, like it's hard to sign a quarterback that's been around for like a week and put them in and start them. So that is, it's bad planning, which is why I don't think it's all on McDaniel because

they didn't have a great backup plan if there was an injury to Tua. And that sort of shows when you lose with your third string quarterback to a second string quarterback on Monday night. Which again, Jessica, hammers home the point. Like you knew who your QB one was. You didn't get Iron Man there. They knew who that guy was. And to say, ah, we'll be fine. It's kind of ridiculous. I don't know if Dan said this yesterday or if somebody else had said it, but Mike McDaniel didn't look like he changed any of the offense when Snoop Huntley, Dominique said it. Okay. So he didn't change the offense whatsoever. And you have a guy coming in off the street who's a good quarterback, right?

Played well after Lamar Jackson got hurt, made a Pro Bowl, you know, a master's, whatever. Not the point. The point is he's a competent quarterback and a good quarterback who can play in the NFL. And he looked incompetent. Looking at the other side of the ball, the Titans have a sneaky, really good defense, right?

So it's kind of a push and pull of McDaniel should have changed the offensive scheme, but he was playing a good defense. Well, I would say this, though. I will say it. The thing that McDaniel is being compared against is Malik Willis played for Green Bay, and LeFleur did change all the things that needed to be changed so that Malik Willis, who none of us have seen play well before, didn't look like Skylar Thompson, didn't look like Huntley when we were watching the game and as all these new Wiz kids come rushing through here, as you find all of these Shanahan's and the Shanahan disciples who are doing things admittedly that most of us I'm gonna say more than 99.5 percent of us who are watching on Sundays

Don't actually understand what these human beings know that we don't know when they're offensive geniuses The other guys that McDaniel is compared to don't look like that while I'm watching Sam Darnold all of a sudden look like somebody that I don't recognize and so that's what he's being compared against it's just rare to see it all evaporate in two games it's super weird to see this cascade down on the head of Mike McDaniel because it's not merely that you're losing. That's one thing. It's that you're watching the coach on the sideline comparing it to what you're seeing on the field and you're saying that's not competent. What's happening out there when they go

down 15 to 6 that game is over. There will be no coming back here from a team that two weeks ago if you told me they were down 21 points I'd be like that's all right they can figure that out they've been good at coming back they know how to do that to go from that if you're down 14 points I trust you to I don't believe that you can come down from 15 to 6 because your coach has nothing it's pretty rare to see that happen. That quote unquote genius evaporate in two weeks. Can we give it one more week?

Like Tyler Huntley was just signed. Skyler Thompson's clearly a terrible quarterback. Huntley just fit into one week of game planning. If he goes a second week as a skilled guy with no adjustments to the offense and those types of struggles, then I'm willing to jump off. But can we just give it one more week

before we totally abandon him? I guess my big issue with everything that is being said is it seems like the standard for whether you're a good coach or not is can you win with an ass quarterback? That's what like like I was like, hey it's all good to win when you got talent. I mean that's Belichick's entire genius. Mike Tomlin has done it for the last five years. That's his specialty. Belshazzar Babylonian King according

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