The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Can We Say "Dicks?"

Episode Date: August 14, 2023

Dan...Mike Ryan...IS BACK. Mike comes back to the show with his new signature phrase and it sparks some in-show controversy. The crew breaks down Dwyane Wade's Hall of Fame speech, how he became the f...ace of a remarkable class, Wade's relationship with the Heat, and Stugotz's criticism of Gregg Popovich. Then, The Marlins had a great weekend that has Billy and Jeremy fired up for the rest of the season, and James Harden goes scorched earth on Daryl Morey. Plus, Billy is looking for a get-fit-quick scheme that could include chair yoga, and Pablo Torre has arrived to discuss the drama between Morey and Harden and his beloved Philadelphia 76ers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunlabel Tarshall with the Stugat's Podcast. What up, Dix? How's it going? Glad to be back. What, that my my signature? So we thought it would be a great idea that if I ease myself back into the show I should just sit in Dan's seat to give you like maximum annoyance right start with your signature
Starting point is 00:00:34 What up Dix? What up Dix? Everyone's so nice to me. I was just asking Jeremy else like I've never heard Mike actually say that so where did that come from? Started in Tahoe starting in Tahoe. Yeah, I was avoiding that concept. It came from a deep seated resentment of our Reddit. That's if you want to get into it. We have a Reddit. Yeah, don't ever Lucy. Don't ever check the Reddit. Can you say the D word? What Dix? Yeah, I think so. I don't think we can't. I've been told so yeah, that's all getting pleased. Nah, we can say Dix. told so yeah, that's all getting bleached. No, we can say dicks.
Starting point is 00:01:06 It's gonna be funny when people try to figure out what the bleped for a lot of word is that you're calling them. Just whoever says we can say dicks, I said it's okay, we can say dicks. Hey Stewie, hello Mike, you're making this weird for me. Why? Because you're just sitting around and I'm not talking about it. Well someone's telling you you can't say dicks and you're insisting that you can say dicks and I'm telling you you probably can't say someone's telling you you can't say Dix and you're insisting that you can say Dix
Starting point is 00:01:25 and I'm telling you you probably can't say Dix. You can definitely say Dix. The poor video team. Yeah, you can definitely say Dix. We have a no say this word list. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, I saw that. Which by the way, if I'm, all right,
Starting point is 00:01:37 I'm gonna just do this. Fast channels are not regulated by the FCC. This is just an internal decision by our partners at DKN to just be nice and not have that because they have advertisers and whatnot. You can say Dix on terrestrial radio. In fact, most networks that you've come to know and love, not even including fashion channels, could show hardcore pornography if they were cable and not be fine. They could definitely say the S word on cable now because South Park pushed it.
Starting point is 00:02:04 They can say the F word. That's on Park pushed it. They can say the F word. That's on our list too. They can say the F word, they can do everything. The only thing that's regulated by the FCC is like radio stations and network television. So what am I to do with the producers in my ears saying we cannot say the word Dix? You can say Dix. Oh, you cannot. I'm like a dog with a bone on this one.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Dick Hills the weird Hill to die on. Yeah. I guess you're right. Yeah. Not the worst hill. Time for a new phrase, Mike. What about that Hall of Fame ceremony? Ha ha ha ha.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Now, I don't really pay attention to the basketball Hall of Fame because it's not a real Hall of Fame. It's so easy to get. Thank you. It's not. It's a crap Hall of Fame. You're right. But it was a hell of a class.
Starting point is 00:02:46 And for as little as I pay attention to it, it seemed like one of the best ones ever. I granted one of my favorite players if not my favorite player of all time doing Wade goes in. And I thought his speech was fantastic. I only cock clips, so I piece together. I saw maybe about 12 minutes, a short down viral version of it, I guess.
Starting point is 00:03:05 12 of 25, so you got the gist? The dad thing was really cool. Him bringing his pop up and saying, we made the Hall of Fame. I really love that. I liked all the, uh, cross. They did a lot of social content in the lead-up for the Hall of Fame. And I kind of got the chills watching Dirk and Dwayne. Two players whose history is kind of intertwined.
Starting point is 00:03:27 That's kind of very intertwined. Have fun together, which I guess you always want to believe that there's a rivalry there, but not really. The two of them doing, it was like one of the TikTok trends where you tilt your head one direction to choose somebody versus the other side. And watching the two of them come together and have moments like wait even said it in his speech that for the other guys, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:50 they were getting to know each other, but for him and Dirk, it was a bit of therapy because the two of them were going at it for most of their careers. It was pretty cool. What a bad class for Tony Parker. How does hold it going, too? Bad class. Yes, when Dirk and Wade and Pop and we'll get to pop it a second, it's a tie to him. But who is, who is most upset because they felt like Wade was going to acknowledge them more, but because the relationship with Wade and he is clearly a frosty relationship.
Starting point is 00:04:16 There's something going on there. I don't think he mentioned Mickey Arison. He didn't give enough time on Spowe. I think Riley probably thought he was going to get more time. He blew past the he quickly. He didn't even enough time on Spowe. I think Riley probably thought he was gonna get more time. He blew past the heat quickly. He didn't even mention Grant Cody once. Yeah. I know he's mad. Exactly. Yeah. Ju-ju.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Ju-ju's back in with us. Uh, I thought the Alan Iverson thing, and he explained it prior to, thought the Iverson thing was cool. It was just a little surprising. But Iverson's kind of this player who, and I don't want to diminish what he did on the court He won an MVP what he did at his size was incredible. He had an all-time moment in game one of what ended up being a five-game series
Starting point is 00:04:53 Not not throwing shade, but Iverson if he were just merely the stats History in a couple of years might look over his impact on the game. His impact on the game goes well beyond his game. And for Dwayne to say, you are the culture, he inspired this whole slew of superstars. And for him to use the opportunity to give Iverson a formal platform like that, I got it. I didn't get it at first, but I got it and watching Iverson with the speech
Starting point is 00:05:21 and the jacket was a really nice touch to all of that. His name was crooked on the jacket, right? They're making crazy. Well, it could have been his posture. Maybe. Something looked a little bit off on the jacket. Also, ruined a good jacket. What was that for?
Starting point is 00:05:36 You're never going to wear that again, right? Like you can never wear that again. There's not another wedding that a girl should show up with a bedazzle name on the back. I thought the part that was special about Wade Wade speech was the fact that he made it about sort of how basketball impacted him, how his family impacted him, and how he got to where he is. So you're right, Stu, like there were a number of different players and coaches who probably in different speeches would have gotten more time, but this was more of a way of of Dwayne Wade to say, Hey, here's who I am as a human being, the way that my family impacted me, and also here
Starting point is 00:06:10 was me growing up watching Michael Jordan. Here's how Alan Iverson then impacted me, and it was sort of more of a full story of his life and the way that he was able to get there. And I thought the different stops along the way. He did such an incredible job of telling the full journey of his NBA career and his career specifically with the heat the heat or the only team he mentioned like he did not mention playing for the bulls and playing for the calves and goes to experiences at all why would he never play but but to be able to to go through it and specifically highlight the heat the way he did say heat nation are we here like yeah maybe there are some
Starting point is 00:06:42 individual relationships with people within the heat that aren't quite the same as you thought they would be when he entered the hall of fame, but his relationship with the concept of the Miami heat is as strong as it's ever been. No question. I love the speech. I thought, you know, what he did with his dad at the end was fantastic and well executed by both the way and his dad. Like it was really, it was a touching moment, but I just figured Spulstra, who was there by his side since
Starting point is 00:07:06 day one, and not as a head coach, but as a guy who just fed him ball so he could shoot jumpers and kept throwing it back to him and back to him. I thought Spulstra would get more love. And I think Spulstra at a private moment would tell you, he thought he would get more love. I would think the Dwayne Wade had those private moments with those people who needed it. I don't know what we're doing here with specifically spholster thought he would get my house.
Starting point is 00:07:29 This is what I do. He's really on this frosty thing and I thought Pat Riley said the thing that got aggregated, but come on. I think everyone knows what Pat Riley was getting at with. Dwayne Wade is easily the greatest player in the history of the franchise. He may not be the best and that's why he chose the word greatest. Best in terms of form, well, brawn during the time that he was here. It's pretty clear, but this is a greatest player in franchise history.
Starting point is 00:07:53 And I think it's a testament to his star outshining what is, for me, again, someone who admittedly doesn't pay attention to much to in Shreymans from this Hall of Fame. That's Paul Gisol, that's Tony Parker, that's Dirk Novitsky. This is a testament to the growth of that sport. You have three of the greatest European basketballers of all time going in with them. That would be the headline in almost any other year, but this was Wade's class. And he used class with the platform and he shared it with someone who inspired him and gave Alan
Starting point is 00:08:25 Iverson a ton of shine. I thought that he did well with their comments, both having Pat Riley at the forefront and then on social media. It was a nice little victory lap for the Miami Heat, but you took away Rossi. I did. I mean, he didn't mention the owners. He barely mentioned Spowe. He breathes past some of the big names
Starting point is 00:08:46 that helped him throughout, you know, his career with the heat. He just did. He just did. He gave some love to you, Donnis. I thought you, Donnis would present him. I understand why he went with that. Iverson, but I understand it now. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Some of those big names, though, Mike, he just kind of, I don't know. I felt like he would acknowledge them more and he did it. That's all, you know, I'm nitpicking. I know I am. Well, that's what I do. I can see you itching to get at pop. Well, I mean, pop, it was Wade's class, okay? But somehow it became Pop's class. And the whole thing with Pop saying, you know, I wanted to be a D3 coach. That's who I am. That guy is my idol. Let me tell you something. If you wanted to be a D3 coach. That's who I am. That guy is my idol. Let me tell you something If you wanted to be a D3 coach, you could have been a D3 coach because that D3 coach that was also inducted into the Hall of Fame He wants to be you pop, okay? I don't want to hear about it. All right. I'm the every man humble guy I do not want to hear about you're a Hall Hall of Famer. Come and make your Hall of Fam speech.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Don't sit there for five minutes, selling me on the fact that you wanted to be a D3 coach. Those are the real coaches. They're coaching real basketball. Those are the guys that deserve credit. If you wanted to be a D3 coach, you could have been a D3 coach. Take it a second job to make ends meet.
Starting point is 00:10:01 You could have done all of that. He's still a Dan, by the way. There's literally nothing stopping. I bet you there's not a D3 team. I'm gonna go out on a limb. There's not a D3 team in the country that would say no to Greg Popovich if he wanted to be their head coach.
Starting point is 00:10:13 So you wanna be a D3 head coach so bad? Do it. Go be a D3 head coach. Live your dream. It's a really easy purchase to be like, man, I wish I could just be a humble guy. I've made millions upon millions of dollars and I've got the number one draft pick and I've got another 10 years left with him. But I wish I could just be a humble guy. I've made millions upon millions of dollars and I've got the number one draft pick
Starting point is 00:10:25 and I've got another 10 years left with him, but I wish I could just be a guy from which it's all Kansas and me and D3 ball, that I knew it. You know what, which I talk gets so much shine in these examples. It's like, let me think of a place that's nowhere. You know what,
Starting point is 00:10:40 when you're a D3 coach, you don't have a wine house because that's what he has. A house for his wine. Greg Popovich playing Bo Shach because wasn't he quoted as the reason why he's still coaching in the NBA? Wasn't it just money, money, money? That's a direct quote.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Yeah, how about also retire before you go into the Hall of Fame? Enough of it. Enough of that. Still coach. Exactly right. Retire, well, I'm not going to say the other one, but you can't be an active coach. I didn't say it. You didn't say it. You didn't but you can't be an active coach I didn't say it
Starting point is 00:11:05 you didn't say it you didn't say it you guys thought it I didn't even say it's the ultimate retire you thought it yeah retire from life what are you talking about what's true I mean I do get bothered by it I mean Rey Mysterio you came in the US title and be a Hall of Famer at the same like he won the US title after he was all a Famer. It's just all confusing. It's been bothering me as well. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't take away Frosty one bit.
Starting point is 00:11:31 I didn't. I had the pop stuff, I mean. I had pop, yeah, some with you, please. I mean, he made it his class. It's Dwayne Wade's class. You got some of me a text message of things that he wanted to talk about. And it was just Greg Popovich,
Starting point is 00:11:43 period, Popovich was very clearly misspelled. It was Greg Popovitch period, please, period. Should have went pop. You should have, you should have, and now I do. I think you even misspelled Greg. Did you? Is he a Gregig? He's a Gregig.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Yeah. Oh, so he's a Gregig. All right, so. He's a Gregig at Buddett's Papo, not Popo. No one calls him poppo. Oh, people should call him poppo. I like poppo. Gregigat poppo.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Granted to you though, for getting the first name right. Thank you. To Greg, you can't be lamenting someone else's anonymous life and then fire back. Why are you still coaching? Money, money, money. Ha ha ha ha. Don Lebatard. Why are you guys coaching money money money?
Starting point is 00:12:29 Don libatard. Why are you guys blurting out safety names? It's the best game ever. Little while ago, we were talking about an nerd Pollard. And now I think we're just playing a game in the studio where we're just naming safeties. Yeah, kind of like the 90s baseball player game. Like a couple of minutes ago, I just blurred it out Brock Merriott. Great work baseball player game like a couple minutes ago. I just blurted out Brock Marion Great work, and it made a few people happy. Yep. Still got Bob Sanders. Yeah, you know, he was early in the list Classic very cathartic. Yeah, Adam Archaletta. Not a good safety. No, but a great name in a name He had a run name alone sounds like he should be better Adam was Adam was a good safety for a few years
Starting point is 00:13:05 Did someone say Brock Marion? Yeah, that's how that's where this heart knows the gambit. Hey listen I'm struggling with memory as I get older. This is the down libertar show with this two gods We presented by draft King sports book one of the americist top-rated sports book apps We're presented by Draft King Sporzburg, one of the America's top-rated Sporzburg apps. Draft King's has all kinds of ways to get in on the action, including seeing Game Paul A's, props, live betting, and so much more. You just go down when you sign up on a Draft King Sporzburg app to check it out. The coach who won the D3 title last year made $60,000. Go take that job.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Something tells me. Something tells me. It's tired of him. Well, when your rebuttal is money, money, money, I don't think he's gonna be coming in at that salary. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. I saw Marlon Spaceball's back. What?
Starting point is 00:13:53 So back. Yeah. So they had a team meeting and told jazz, cut the shit. That's not what happened. No, that's not that's not what happened. I saw a team meeting. I was like, I've seen this before. The last time they had a team meeting, they told jazz, hey, cut it out. And they did, and now they're good again.
Starting point is 00:14:08 How about that? The team meeting had nothing to do with jazz in particular. The team meeting had to do with everyone on the team struggling to succeed offensively. Their offense has been pretty horrible and had been after the trade deadline despite the fact that the two guys they traded for and Josh Bell and Jake Berger had been great. Yeah, Josh Bell is killing it.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Been awesome. Josh Bell basically single handedly won the McGame at Cincinnati. Jake burger was great over this past weekend. Two out of three against Cincinnati and two out of three against the Yankees and the team of Destiny Narrative is back. But they've won two straight and four out of their out of their last 10. So you can't say they've won two straight. They've won two straight. You can't say they've won two straight. Four to 10. You can start saying they've won two straight. How would they back straight?
Starting point is 00:14:47 Like three is a tipping point. You can say they've won two straight. Got one a series. I understand that. I think you can. They've won back to back series. They have. Back to back series and they've won four out of their last five games.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Again, four out of 10, they have lost five in a row. But they've gone help from the rest of the wildcard chase, right? They're not. So what's been really good for the Marlins is that despite their major struggles coming out of the second half of the year, all the other teams around them, except for the Dodgers, who have won, I think, seven in a row, have been really, really bad. So they've still hung around, and now just winning back-to-back series now against the
Starting point is 00:15:20 Reds and the Yankees, they hold the final wildcard spot for themselves. And they have a closer that you can trust, right? Yeah. You think so? I saw that they traded for the Admiral, so it's Robert's son. But he's a trusty guy. Well, he pooped the bed twice in a row. Twice in a row.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Yeah, but he's back. You can say twice in a row when you poop the bed. Yeah, but he's back. Lucy's going to her first Marlon's game tomorrow. Really? Wow. That's fun. Sure. Ha ha ha.
Starting point is 00:15:46 He's a seam thrilled. Yeah, I'm so pumped. We have like a little like team outing thing. It's gonna be really fun. And then I looked at ESPN and saw that the tickets were $5 for this game and I realized that's why we're going. Who are they playing? The Astros.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Astros, yeah. That's a good opponent, right? Who's on the bump? Do we get to see Verlander? He's an Asher again. He is. Don't ask me the name of the second one. What? I'm gonna say Oswald. Quedo. Oh, Quedo's an Asher?
Starting point is 00:16:15 For who? No, Quedo's for us. Oh, he's a Marlin? Look at that, I just said it. Us. I'm in on this. It'll be Christian Javier for the Asheres. Oh, I don't know who that is. Met pirates take it to three dollars today
Starting point is 00:16:27 So steal almost twice as twice as much so fill me in because I've been gone for a while How many games out of the the wall card or the marlins now? No, they hold the final one. They do Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good. Yeah, and they got They brought back up that picture right Yuri they brought up Yuri Perez He's been struggling since returning to the major leagues, which Marlon's Twitter is having a field day with but that's bound to happen. There's bound to be struggles for young starters Even if he had started every single game he was supposed to there would have been a wall He would hit but the good news is that the idea Contra seems to be back. Yeah, he had a complete game
Starting point is 00:16:59 I saw that look I'm paying attention. Yeah, Marlon's ball Angel Hernandez. Angel Hernandez had one of the worst outings that he's had. Was there an actual statement on Angel's performance? How many, I thought I saw a metric that he missed, like 15 calls. I think he missed 15 calls. He missed, he missed some that were right down the middle that were kind of crazy. Did you see this strikeout where Yankee struck out
Starting point is 00:17:21 at a ball that was over his head? Because that was just incredible. Look at that, did he swing. Because that was just incredible. What did he swing? He's long, yeah. All right. I want to tell Angel, how is this still allowed with Angel?
Starting point is 00:17:33 It seems like he's a tenured professor amongst the umpires. You can work it baby. It seems like he's like a senator and a red county. You just have to wait for him to die. Whoa. Look, you took it there wait for him to die. Whoa. Yeah, look, you took it there first. I never took it.
Starting point is 00:17:48 You took it there. I never took it. You took it there with pop. No one said that. Poppo. I never said it. Greg. Greg.
Starting point is 00:17:56 So the marlins are back and the heat is, I've been gone for a while. Is Lillard. He's not on the heat. He's not in the heat. He's not on the heat. What's going on there? Why is he in the heat yet? No, because it seems like the way reality works isn't just the heat get whatever they want.
Starting point is 00:18:11 For nothing. That seems to be how this trade is working out. It's not nothing. I really want Damian Lillard. And they're like, oh no, you don't get him. He's under contract on our team. But I'm not gonna play for any team except the Miami Heat. Cut that shit out.
Starting point is 00:18:24 You're not allowed to say that. I think you're left to say that again. No, I'm not. Sorry for any team except the Miami he cut that shit out you're not allowed to say that I think you're lucky if you say that again no I'm not I'm sorry cut that out then you know that's crazy yeah that's the same way geo feel about to guys like it won't come to the WFA and we gonna contract over here baby whoa you can't see that. You can't say that. That's the whole way. Yeah. Everything else is good though. Sorry, that's on me. Yeah, not just keep it rolling though. And so again, here's my whole thing with the Lillard thing. Okay, they don't have a good offer.
Starting point is 00:18:55 A better offer from another team would breed a better offer from the Miami Heads. There you go. We're stuck on the Miami Heads bad offer that's supposedly bad because there hasn't been an offer that is topped it and while the league took a pretty unprecedented state uh... to uh... an unprecedented stance for them to issue out that memo the same exact thing was going on with the philadelphia seventy six years where james harden had said he only wants to go to the clippers but since
Starting point is 00:19:23 woj was carrying everybody's water in that situation, there's no fight. Well, that got ugly. That got ugly just yesterday with James Hardin, and I think we have the video of this, by the way, James Hardin, with your build, and I know what I'm talking about right now, by the way, it was some big stars in two days. You can't go oversized white shirt, and you can't go view from the side. You just can.
Starting point is 00:19:47 It's a tough, tough look. Why two days just out of curiosity? Why not today? Oh, is that big? You wanna start it? Because you have to take a exempt once a week on the same day. And you wanna space it off from the weekend
Starting point is 00:19:59 because it really does suppress your appetite. Are you using this? I haven't started yet. I have it. I haven't started yet. I wanna it. I haven't started yet. I wanted to enjoy Europe, but I started on Wednesday. And Wednesday consistently I'm in town, so that's when I'll do my shot.
Starting point is 00:20:14 I have to uncheck myself, and I've never done that. I'd rather snort it. Because you've done that. Bloody. Back to James Harden, I think he got on his face right now. Yeah, that way he's on purpose. All right Let's see the video This is this is a strategy implemented by James Harden to actually get that asking price lower Let me say that again was my favorite part.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Derralmory is a liar, but I quote from James Hardin, and I will never play for an organization that he's a part of ever again. Let me say that again, which I needed because the audio wasn't so great the first time. Derral Mori is a liar. And I will never play for an organization that he is a part of. This is a couple of days after Derral Mori said, all right, we're calling off the trade talks. We're just going to run it back with James Hardin because the offers weren't great. Same stuff that same BS that Portland's trying to do, which is, hey, this offer is bad,
Starting point is 00:21:28 but we can't actually get a better offer, but we'll put the blame on the player that doesn't want to be here. So that happens in James Hardell. Yeah, but this player always doesn't want to be there. Right? That's, you know, there's been there. He's been there for a long time. This player always is looking for the next opportunity.
Starting point is 00:21:43 So you got to, you are absolutely right. If you look at me, if you could look at the players that have actually gone through, there's been whispers around certain players. I think James Harden has the more trade demands in the last two years than all the other NBA players combined. So it's a fair shot that you're taking in James Harden, but he's exercising his right over here and he's exercising his right over here and he's been pretty quiet.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Unlike Damien Lillard, who was a little bit louder, and I understand if you wanna peel back the layers, I was a bit of a Homer with a Lillard situation. He let it be known through his reps that he wanted to be in Los Angeles with the Clippers. He had to exercise the nuclear option because Daryl Mori goes through the press.
Starting point is 00:22:27 I want to seize on Daryl Mori as a liar because if you remember the extension that James Harden signed, he opted out of a bigger deal, right? He opted out of a bigger deal and it looked like top out of that bigger deal promises had to be made so he can be made whole, whether it be through Michael Rubin and whatever shady thing that the league didn't, did indeed look into to see if a circumvention of the NBA salary cap happened and they rolled that into which I read aloud, Ha.
Starting point is 00:22:55 I saw that and I said, Ha, out loud. Yeah, I said Ha, because it was a liar whoever did that investigation, not unlike Darryl Mori. It's pretty clear to piece together what happened here. James Harden, hey, opt out so we can have a little bit more juice in our salary, it can have to get someone like PJ Tucker, and then we'll make you whole. And then they didn't want to make him whole.
Starting point is 00:23:16 And now you have James Harden. Well, they can't make him whole. They don't like the deal. Well, from the side view, he looks pretty whole. Yes. But it's the box cut shirt too, it's tough. It's a tough bit. It's a little short.
Starting point is 00:23:26 It's got to be a little longer. It's the white back. I'm at the wash stage in my life where all my IG ads are hats that I can wear in the pool and shirts that I can wear to hide my nips. It's my entire algorithm. That shirt's bald hats. That's my entire IG.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Yet look at you, beautiful hair and a raised jersey that fits you nice, black. I only wear the, the jerseys, the baseball jerseys are wonderful for my figure right now. I am the heaviest I've ever been in my entire life. No, I don't say that. Perfectly cropped hair. Your hair is perfectly cropped. That's also a little bit of a comb over. We got the entralis, a little problem area over here in sector 4 that I'm a little worried about.
Starting point is 00:24:02 You've been working on that though. You have sector to your hair. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it is coming back though. We're on the comeback trail. The headphones kind of make it look a little, look at that cowlick going on there. I'm very vain and I'm cutting my hair tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:24:15 So this is the last of it. And I will forever look back at these photos of this era considering that I'm starting a ozempic on Wednesday. As my fat hair, this will be known forever more as the fat hair. So what's going to be your thin hair? Well, you used to be actual thin hair. Yeah, you used to be actual thin hair before a critchy pedo and keeps came to the table. But I want to give you some flowers though, because you bounced back. You got your hair shaved on camera last year. You feel me? I thought I was never coming back.
Starting point is 00:24:41 I had a great bounce back. So look at you, sir. Absolutely. Thank you. This was really just a proof of it to me that I still had it, that I could still go. That one last season. Yeah, I Tom Cruise. This is my Adrian Beltray contact year. Contract year, right here. The Adrian Beltray contract year happened,
Starting point is 00:24:57 and I proved to you that I can all do it, and I can do it whenever I want, but I gotta go back. It's hot. It's hot to have long hair. It's generally everywhere. It's hot everywhere. Although I did see that the Navy is developing a freeze ray, which I'm in on, we should stop trying to, you know, cut our carbon emissions really. Now we're all about impractical solutions. Give me the freeze ray. Like how does that work?
Starting point is 00:25:23 Explain that to me. Someone's just walking around with a freeze ray. This is like straight out of a cartoon. It's straight out of Batman, yeah. Would kill the dinosaurs. The ice age. I think the thought is to block some of the heat from warming our planet so we just blast stuff into outer space.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Yes. And I'm sure there will be no unintended side effects. We're doomed Don lebertard. You know what a razor is Dan. I do not know. I don't know what a motor roller razor is You don't know you I bet you you had one. I did not have one really look Let's walk through your phone history. What kind of phone? I never had a motor roller razor I did not have a motor roller roller roller machine. Oh I have a motor racer phone. Ooh, not a motor racer. Telegraph machine after that.
Starting point is 00:26:05 The motor racer, Dan, was the one that was like really, really thin that it flipped over, but it was like as thin as like a razor blade. That's why they called it the razor. What is a telegraph machine? I don't know. They had one in down Naby. Still gots.
Starting point is 00:26:19 The Titanic stop. Has Sunkin stop. John take a bath to stop. Is missing stop. You think that was my phone you think that my first phone was uh... the titanics emergency signal
Starting point is 00:26:33 this is the down there but are show with this to gats and presented by draft king sports book one of one of America's top rated sportsbook apps. Draft King's has all kinds of ways to get in on the action, including same game parles, props, live betting, and so much more. Use code Dan when you sign up on the Draft King Sportsbook app to check it out. I'm looking up freeze-range right now, seeing if I can purchase one.
Starting point is 00:27:02 This is peak by curiosity. I mean, it really has a free. What would you do with one stew? I don't know. It just seems like something cool to have, you know, a freeze right. Is it just like the stuff they spray on soccer players on the field, but like in a giant playing with our type canister? I like that.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Like a surface air missile. It's like Ben Gay. Shack is going to do a commercial for it. Find out if that's by the way way that is not his back in that commercial It never was his back at no point has shut back double yes, and no point has shut Maybe in the magic days early on did shacks back look like zero love handles on that back come on That's another thing that I found out in my late thirties that that's I'm soaring there now for the winner How do I get rid of that?
Starting point is 00:27:45 You don't. I'm sure there's like some exercises, right? The Russian twist, oblique, yeah, medicine. Oh no, there are exercises. You just won't do them. I mean, no, I do do the exercises though. That's a, no, that's it.
Starting point is 00:27:57 That's a frustrating part about this. I'm an open book about my Lexipro weight gain and all that. I know. I do work out. I know you did. No K amounts. Right. And for me to actually like stay at a certain weight,
Starting point is 00:28:10 I have to work out really hard. So after exhausting all the options, and not really changing my diet all that much, I'll admit. But I don't want to. I've never had to. That's part of it. Yeah. Well, I need to take something to curb the diet.
Starting point is 00:28:24 I can't be trusted with this I'm just got I just went to Europe. I mean come on beautiful civil. I think I lost weight when I went to Europe I hated the food. I did really yeah Spain enough enough of the freaking how money ready go I can anymore That's crazy. I couldn't it with the ham every time those are my favorite so I've been to Spain I like the food there. Italy is fantastic. England is where it all goes downhill. Like the foods been there.
Starting point is 00:28:48 I disagree. I disagree. There are some really, really good food in London especially. Well, because they're imperial. So all the countries that they just covered all of it, they just come over there and they get to kind of take credit for it.
Starting point is 00:29:00 But it's like there's tons of great restaurants there. I think English cuisine itself is what most people find to be a little yucky, little bangers and mash, your greasy fish and chips, your eel pies, not really the thing that most people. Eel pies. Yeah, like an eel? Like an eel, that's a traditional thing.
Starting point is 00:29:18 I mean, say, yeah, I saw it. But like in a pie. Yeah, I saw it on Atlas Obscuro once. There's places that still serve it along the Thames. It looks disgusting But everything else there tastes pretty good also. It's the Thames. I don't know this. Thames. Yeah so whether it be Global warming with a with a freeze ray or OZM pick I'm always or a hat that I can wear in the pool. I'm looking for get fit quick schemes and
Starting point is 00:29:41 hat that I can wear in the pool. I'm looking for get fit quick schemes. And I think Billy has a get fit quick scheme. Well, no, I'm looking for one. That's the thing, yeah, because I don't, like, similarly to you, like, I don't really want to do the work. You have to try it in that age. I was reading about taking cold showers and they're like, oh, it's so great if you just...
Starting point is 00:29:58 What's a cold shower thing? Because I know that there's like the ice plunge thing. Well, this said like if you ice plunge, and then take a cold shower like five times, I'm not gonna buy it a nice plunge and I'm not gonna go on. Why do you have to do it? You can get like a rubber made garbage can and feel it with ice.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Like that's a lot of ice. That's a good thing. Yeah, bad two words for you, gentlemen. Yeah. Stationary bicycle. Boom. You get to watch your television, you get to kick it and you get to lose those calories
Starting point is 00:30:20 that you've been packing. I have a palatine. Gear Motone. I'll get down and on the truck. I'm trying now more. Maybe last time you try, don't try, do. Last time you use it? July.
Starting point is 00:30:33 July. Last month, this July? Which year? Yeah. I haven't had it for that long, so early July. I did a chair yoga class last night. Okay, stop that. You don't stop that.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Chair yoga class. What's chair yoga? S'ilv, stop that. You don't stop that. Chair yoga class. What's chair yoga? A silly. Silver sneaker stuff. Are you sitting in the chair using it as like a prop? Well, I've sat on the couch. I used the couch as my chair for chair yoga. Because the thing is, is that it was late.
Starting point is 00:30:57 And I didn't have time to peloton, but peloton has an app that has all of these other different classes. So sometimes if I don't have time to ride for like 20 minutes, 30 minutes, whatever, I'm like, you know what, let me just do like a good stretching class. Let me do like a 10 minute stretch, let me do like a 10 minute core. Let me do something just to get my body moving,
Starting point is 00:31:12 try to get myself in good position, set myself up for success for this week. Why are you doing it in the chair, like get your ass up and do it on the floor? It's an excellent question. The reason I was doing chair yoga and so. In Kardashian vibes from Tony, no one wants to go to work anymore.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Her videos. I just want to do yoga from a chair now. Her workout videos are pretty good. People that do yoga in a chair like 85 years old. Okay. Well, I mean the teacher was not 85 year old. It was you know this gentleman who was in very good shape and I said you know what? I've doing chair yoga has gotten him in this shape. It has. It's gonna work for me. Is it the same lady that was on public access television that did exercises on the chair with free weights? My grandma wanted it with me. No, no, guys, I had to do chair yoga
Starting point is 00:31:50 because if I lay down on the floor to do reggaers stretching or regular yoga, my dogs attack me every time that I do it. So I can't just do it. And the babies were asleep, so I couldn't put the dogs in a room. If I let them out, they did what you had in a neighbor. The house behind me seems to have just sold recently
Starting point is 00:32:07 and those people have the lights on all the time, and I don't want them jumping over the fence or something, so I'm like, these dogs have to stay here. Are you ever going to confront them about the lights? No, it's early still. And I have like a good patch of like trees that like kind of block it out,
Starting point is 00:32:19 but before the lights were always off, so I would always just like, I have like blinds that I would just leave open in my house. So my house, I guess. Get fish till palms dude. If you were a neighbor and you wanted to be a peeping tom, you could just look into my house at all hours because I just had the blinds open
Starting point is 00:32:34 and the lights on at night. I told you, I had a dilemma like that. A peeping tom. No, well, it's like, all right, to America's not a peeping tom, yeah. No, so the person, my neighbors, I love my neighbors. When I first moved in, my house is on a pitch and you could look directly into my home
Starting point is 00:32:51 if you were the next store neighbor. I didn't know what that means. A soccer field. No, it's on a pitch, like an angle, like that's on a hill. Got it. So you could look over my fence and look directly into my home if all the lights were on,
Starting point is 00:33:05 and the person that lives next door, he's wheelchair bound, he's a stay-at-home dad. And so this is a prime, this is a prime peeping situation. You can get a little bored, let's just see what's going on in the neighbors and look into their kitchen and being a wheelchair is prime peeping situation.
Starting point is 00:33:19 I don't wanna all offend anybody, but if I'm stuck in wheelchair bound, I can get pretty bored around the house. I'm just gonna look at the window occasionally. See what's happening in these houses? Yeah, really interesting. I'm picking that with your brain down. I'm stuck in wheelchair bound I can get pretty bored around the house. I'm just gonna look at look at the window occasionally See what's happening in these house. Yeah, I'm really Interesting. I'm picking up what you're putting down. I'm picking it up. Yeah, you're just you're just in the house You're really cool for a show. Yeah, cuz it's like if I'm out in the streets I'm going to the club. I ain't got time to be looking over there with Mike or whatever
Starting point is 00:33:37 I'm in the wheelchair. I don't do it on my activities. Hold on. Who was that? Yeah, let's see what that looks like I don't like this take I don't like this take all right But I made people in wheeled chairs like all perverts. No, no, nobody says the people one say it's crazy. I was just intimating it. Like come on, nobody wanted to see. No one wanted to see. I don't like this.
Starting point is 00:34:00 I don't like you doing cherry yoga in the middle of the night trying to get fit, bro. You got to got you. You got to put some sit ups. You got to do some crunches. We got to put some energy in it is You ain't gonna do no damn cherry yoga and get no results. I got you. I love you brother, but that shit is not it I got this one move Billy That's for people literally we'll say if we do yoga in the wheelchair I mean, do whatever exercise Thank you, too. Why are we exercise shaming? He that's a pervert. That's what we were born on his age. He was a lot of you in pervert.
Starting point is 00:34:26 He was calling the Mike Mabel and wheelchair's perverse. I did not. I didn't say that. I didn't say it. Mike said people in wheelchairs or peeping thoms because they're bored and I said, do not say that. That's not the path we should be going down. I was just building a scenario in a structure field house.
Starting point is 00:34:43 How to act in an narrative. Yeah, I was just building a scenario in a structure field house. How do I get an narrative? Yeah, I was just pointing at painting a picture for you as to why I had to get... But Billy wants you to pay to tell him. Billy wants you to paint the different picture. I was actually being helpful to Billy. He's got this problem with his neighbors. Don't lump Billy into this. Well, it's not a problem yet.
Starting point is 00:34:58 I'm just saying I've noticed the lights are on, so I've started closing the blinds now at night. Right, how about you? I'll give some damn. My bad. Yeah, just get window-film, so you can keep your blinds now at night. Right, how about bolfio, I'll give some damn, my bad. Yeah, just get window film so you can keep your blinds open and they can't see through it. Mine is like a cool little rainbow color so when the sun hits it my apartment's really cool. You know, Austin, you guys are linked.
Starting point is 00:35:14 They changed. No, I got the first shot of Palm Sound. They changed my windows like when we moved in we had the windows changed and it had a blue like film on it because that's what the windows came with. And my house was always blue on the inside as a result of it and I loved it. And then when like... Like in a aquarium. Yeah, it was great.
Starting point is 00:35:30 It was blue, it was fun. Exactly, I felt like a fish. And then when we finally were like, you know what, we have to be adults and take the plastic off. I took it off and I was like, I don't know, I like this house anymore. It's not blue, it's just white.
Starting point is 00:35:43 It's just, it's a vibe is all off. I didn't like it. It's just some vibe is all off. I didn't like it. Get you some blue curtains. You feel me? Because that's keeping your window open. That is, y'all got to stop that. If I didn't have curtains for this, you can afford a house. You can afford some damn curtains. You feel me? Because it's killers out here on the loose. Brother, it's two thousand twenty three. You can't be leaving your window open. Y'all got precious princesses to look at. Get you some curtains, baby brothers. I like filling my home with light. And I love the view when I walk in my home
Starting point is 00:36:09 because I get to see this huge open layout with this window and now there's fish tail palms there. So if you're so worried about your neighbors peeping into your home, Billy, you should get some fish tail palms. I'm kind of hoping they put up a fence because then I don't have to, you know what I mean? You're kind of hoping that they figure this out
Starting point is 00:36:24 before you actually have to. Yeah, I'm kind of You're kind of hoping that they figure this out before you actually have to do it. Yeah, I'm kind of hoping I bother them more than they bother me. You're hoping they blink? Exactly right. It's a fantasy to the blurs. I'm just going to play them the local hour from today and they will probably not want to have anything to do with you.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Yeah, I'll see you doing cherry yogurt and be like, what the hell? Because the thing is I have a lot of trees. And it's be really weird in front of your neighbor. I'd have to cut the trees to put up a fence and I don't want to date. What? What? I'm glad that don't want to date. What? What?
Starting point is 00:36:46 What happened there? Oh, how are we doing? Did we find out? Got to tell him. Any additional information on the freezer, right? No, that's supposed to save us. Nothing yet. I found some one every website I've seen is a little sauce,
Starting point is 00:37:00 little question. Really? Do they all have the picture of Arnold? They're all like, it's all like space dot com and and stuff that's legit yeah so they're partnering from what this local news article says they're partnering with the university of Virginia to make a freeze-wraith to cool electronics but i don't really know what that we have that don't we yeah I feel like a refrigerator that little spreader
Starting point is 00:37:23 the spread that gets the junk off of your keyboards just hold it upside down don't have that Does that cool it if you hold it upside down it it'll burn you from how cold it gets I've done that on accident when I was a child no one ever told me that those are incredibly dangerous Yeah, yeah, I'm ready on I read it on one of these IG Fantasical accounts at exaggerates everything and it made it seem like we'd just be shooting down ice from the heavens. Yeah this website is gamereactor.eu. I don't know if that's not as a hero's track. God bad food. People you didn't like Spanish food. I just is enough. It was like 10
Starting point is 00:38:00 11 days and I'm like can we just get like honestly I should not do much time there. You get a bounce around Europe. I had to go, 11 days and I'm like, can we just get like... Honestly, I shouldn't have too much time there. You get a bounce around Europe. I had to go for a wedding. I went to Paris, Paris, MikaNo's Athens, and let me tell you something, they use French fries for everything.
Starting point is 00:38:14 A lot more than us. It's a Mediterranean diet, baby. That's a lot more than us. It's a lot more than us. The best food for you. Greek fries. Just give me all the fries with feta cheese on them. I did a lot of walking.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Mediterranean diet. I did a lot of walking. Metatronia diet. I did a lot of walking. I took a big dump yesterday and I- Congrats. After I took a big dump, I went to my store. And I think I lost weight on this trip. So, hooray for me. There's nothing like-
Starting point is 00:38:36 I never left the streets of the United States of America. So I can't wait to travel to world like that. There's nothing, Ju-ju, quite like the big vacation purge dump. And it's almost like, you get nostalgic about it. Like, oh, I remember when I ate that. And like, throughout yesterday, because I took several times yesterday, I saw Paris. I saw MikaNos, and I saw Athens.
Starting point is 00:38:58 And I also saw the 40 hours that I spent in the Atlanta airport, all throughout my dumps. I'm gonna throw it up. Yeah! Don Lebertard! that I spend in the Atlanta airport all throughout my dumps. I'm gonna throw it out. Ha! Down lebatard! We like to call this one a chorus of Owen Wilson, ready? Mm-hmm. Stugats!
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Starting point is 00:39:33 Sam Game Parlaise, props, live betting, and so much more. Use code Dan when you sign up on the DraftKings Sportsbook app to check it out. Pablo Torre, host of the upcoming podcast, Pablo Torre finds out is joining us now to talk about a lot of things, including the story, Dejure, which is James Harden being filmed from the side with the box cut shirt, which was a huge mistake on his part. And Pablo, I listen to your trailer, and most trailers are just, hey, let me populate the feed, and it's not really an engaging piece of content, but I wanna give you and your production team some credit. The Daniel Baldwin cameo,
Starting point is 00:40:08 the literal Daniel Baldwin cameo on your trailer, had me laughin' out loud, and I'm very excited. If this was a true sampler of what you and your production team can do, I subscribe to Pablo Tore, finds out. I implore the audience too. I love that you told the story why it's not the obvious title. pop up here's the thing with Pablo Tory so Pablo credit to you and I'm glad that several months after we hired you you're actually working congratulations. You know what that sincerity warms my heart in a way. I'm also glad to be a part of Daniel
Starting point is 00:40:41 Baldwin's biggest box office smash we look a million views on that thing in years. Shout out to the Baldwin, shout out to Daniel. And yes, it is a sample of something that can listen just as well as it can sort of play visually. It's meant to be audio and video. It is a vignette that'll be kind of like what we do. I make enemies and I will also talk about my friends. And today, with the six years, I also have many enemies.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Well, you've been accused by some to be a process a polygist, a propagandist for you. You are that sum to be squares. You are the person. Yeah, you are a propagandist for the process. Are you rejecting this hypothesis? I prefer the term priest, profit. You're supposed to prop agandist.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Letter from Paul to the Ephesians. You are ordained. But I want to talk to you about this because the NBA did look into it and they found that there was no wrongdoing. It doesn't take a genius to look at the links between Rubin and Harden and Mori to see that maybe just maybe last year's opt out and opt in for less money than was promised in the initial deal might have been a little shady despite the NBA just telling us trust us source trust me bro on the the circumvention of
Starting point is 00:42:02 the salary cap. Now when James Hardin and we should play that video back one more time, if only to Marvel at the bad wardrobe choice that James Harden made with the box cut shirt and the view from the side, it's really the color. That's it. It's the white white. You can't wear white.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Box cut from the side. The cut shirt is tough too. I think you look fine. Really, you. I think you, yeah. I think it's a nice thing. I don't think you've seen it tight in your clothes. No, let's run it back again. So I'm gonna look fine. Really? I think you, yeah. I think it's a nice thing. I don't think you've seen it tight in your clothes. No, let's run it back again.
Starting point is 00:42:27 So I'm going to circle back. Really? Look at it. The more I do, the lighter. And I'm definitely in more of a position in my case, and more of a position. Let me set it again. You're a more of a lighter, and I will never
Starting point is 00:42:41 look more of a position. Oh. Oh my god. Shout out to the person going, woo. I love that he hammers never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never there is something happening there in the midsection that is cascading over the belly making the belly appear even bigger than it is in reality he said it is stomach yeah carries is wait right up top most people it's like a at the carry the baby is it up low nine months shout out to a marinal what i guess you do is here and i
Starting point is 00:43:16 have to do that stuff sorry to gimmick uh... in print on your gimmick but i think we cut it we cut down to it he carries his weight up here in the upper body is kind of like a real true midsection. And then it cascades down, and given the appearance that he's heavier than he actually is.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Pablo, your thoughts on all of this. It is proof that James Harden is the greatest trade requester in the history of sports. I mean, that's a volume thing, though. Much like his game, he is a volume shooter with this. Mike, let's not give him short thrift though. It is volume, of course, he does it seemingly every off season, but it's also the technique.
Starting point is 00:43:50 He's gone from like, I'm just not gonna play, which is standard operating procedure for a trade request or a trade demand or a trade forcer. But then beyond that, remember how we got out of Houston. He went on a literal tour of strip clubs with little baby, right? So that's a little little baby $12 I thought I thought I thought I nailed that one, but okay So you said little baby thinking that you nailed it well, I try to do a little soft tickle of the tea
Starting point is 00:44:19 That's just sub-audible $12 $12 $12 like an Englishman well just sub-audible. $12, $12, $12. Like an Englishman? Well, yeah, well, a little baby. But then, but then remember, of course, he goes to the netty professor himself and gets out of Brooklyn. And this is the, this is the combination, right?
Starting point is 00:44:35 He has certainly netty professored himself. We all agree there. It is, it is fatsoot plus geopolitics, right? So he's in China. I feel like this is the most underrated part. Oh, that was the whoop. That was why you got the whoop. Darryl Mori is a liar.
Starting point is 00:44:51 That plays well. Dude, this guy is a master. This is a master at work. He's in China on his China tour. And he knows Darryl Mori is enemy number one, geopolitically. They love the NBA. They hate Darryl Mori. And James Harden is out here campaigning against Darryl
Starting point is 00:45:08 and repeating himself twice with multiple angles. Like there was no way this wasn't gonna get captured from every possible vantage point. And so here he is with a move that cannot be countered. And it's a move so great, Mike, that the only spin I have as to why it's good for the Sixers is that now it feels like maybe Michael Rubin didn't give him that much money. Because actually now James is coming back saying like you owe me.
Starting point is 00:45:32 So this was a countermeasure from James Harden, because... We could get her punch, of course it was. Because Mori came out and said, guess what? We're not trading them. The offers are bad. We're just simply not trading them, which is a bridge shorter than it gets a bridge longer than what Portland's actually done. They just flatly said we're not making this move because the offers are so so bad curious Curious Pablo. Do you think the league is going to step in given that they established a precedent
Starting point is 00:45:58 What was with what's going on between Portland Miami? Demi Lillard and his reps. This has not, this has played kind of in a similar fashion. And for the league to not say something, would probably give more fuel to the conspiracy theorist fire in heat island over there? Yeah, I mean, look, first off, Dami-Lillard should be taking notes.
Starting point is 00:46:18 This is how you do this, okay? Like you make a giant mess. You involve every bit of leverage you did not have by generating controversy, generating toxicity. And if you're Adam Silver, this is obviously to your point, Michael shot across his bow too. Like, what do you do? What do you do when one of your most famous players is out here saying, I'm not showing up because my GM is a liar, because he promised me something that he did not deliver. When in fact, it seems like what he did not deliver was a trade that was satisfactory
Starting point is 00:46:47 to the team that was going to trade him away. So this is where Darryl is, right? Like, I think one of the things that we need to respect about Darryl Mori for all of his nerd analytics, like anti-humanity, he is a player-empowerment guy. And the story of this video is that James Harden is no longer the player he's empowering. He's empowering Joel and Beat. Darryl Murray has an audience of one when I watch these videos. It is Joel and Beat. It is how you're going to get me help. Are you
Starting point is 00:47:14 trying to get me help? Are you trying to get me another star? And given the way the trademark it dried up and given the way that the rockets pulled out of it once they hired their new coach, right, who did not want James Harden anymore because he had coached up in Brooklyn. At that point, you don't really have moves to make. And so if you're Adam Silver, I'm feeling like, yeah, this is something that you need to solve. It's also a major challenge to your power because you're trying to force a GM to do something against the interest of his team. Pablo, at one point, do we stop caring about James Hardin because I think I'm there. And here's the reason, okay?
Starting point is 00:47:49 Hardin's had every opportunity to win. Lillard has not, okay? Lillard's been there for a long time. The best he made. He ever had with CJ McCallum, who's a good player, not a great player. Hardin had Chris Paul in Houston. Then he went to the nets. He wanted out of Brooklyn.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Then he went to Philadelphia. He plays with Joe L. M. B., he can't win there. And so now he wants out of Philadelphia. I am tired. I am done with James Harden. James Harden lost Darrell Mori. And that is all you need to know. Like Darrell Mori is the number one James Harden apologist of all time. I have sat in an office with Darrell watching James Harden highlights as he sort of giggles
Starting point is 00:48:31 himself and chugs, diet, mountain, do talking about how this guy should be the MVP. And not Steph Curry in 2015 talking about how this guy is not trying to trick refs. He's actually one of the most clever players in NBA history, one of the greatest offensive players in NBA history. Darryl wrote that letter to the Houston Chronicle, full page ad saying, James Harden changed my life. But at this point, Stu, James Harden is not the player that he wants to empower because he's not good enough anymore. Well, and bead is the one. And that's what James Harden's reacting to. That's the process propaganda spin that I was expecting because you said
Starting point is 00:49:09 that James Harden has lost Darryl Mori. Darryl Mori has lost James Harden. Look, I know that James Harden makes for a really bad martyr. He's requested more trade requests than anybody else combined in the last three seasons. However, he's been supremely loyal to Darryl Mori with the initial force my way to Houston to re-up with Houston, force my way out of a really good situation on paper anyways in terms of immediate title for it's in Brooklyn, force it in an unprecedented
Starting point is 00:49:36 fashion to go back to Darryl Mori and then take less on a deal that he was sitting pretty with, take less and re-back up with the, re-up with the Philadelphia 76ers. If I'm the rest of the teams in the league, you say that he's calling Darryl Moria a liar just because he didn't make this trade happen. Wouldn't I just be raising flags to the league? There seems to be like some under the table dealings here.
Starting point is 00:50:00 He's not just a liar for not giving him the trade. He's a liar because they promised him more money. Well, look, the Michael Rubin aspect, what was promised extra legally to James Harden is where this can get to be. I think that David Stern would have stopped a long time ago, right? Like part of the reason why you wield an iron fist inside of velvet glove is so that you don't let the business of the league, the true and comfortable business of the league, spill true uncomfortable business of the league, spill out there into the public. Now, what you're saying though, Mike,
Starting point is 00:50:28 in terms of what was promised was James Harden owed anything. I think it is important to note that James Harden, Darryl, and Mori, as much as they were tied, it was always because they shared incentives, right? It was a relationship of convenience. It was not so much co-dependence as it was convenience. When it is convenient for your best player to be your best friend, he is your best friend.
Starting point is 00:50:50 James is watching Darryl do that to Joelle right now. When James Hardin is somebody that nobody, I don't want James Hardin on the Sixers. When I saw this trade request to be clear, I did not say to myself, oh no, we might lose James Hardin. My thought was, I think Darryl's thought, which was, oh no, we might lose James Hardin. My thought was, I think, Darryl's thought, which was, oh no, this completely tanks all of the trade value for James Hardin.
Starting point is 00:51:10 And James is speeding right. I mean, it's do not pass, go, do not collect 200. He just wants out of there, no matter what. And so he's hitting the nuclear button on a way that might blow up the vault full of secrets, right? I'm not saying that there wasn't extra judicial stuff that Michael Rubin was involved in. I'm just saying that James Hardin
Starting point is 00:51:28 is the only person willing to spill or threaten secrets that maybe did not exist because he's gonna try everything. We've got about 15 seconds left. Does this fast track a trade now and is more going to have to take a worse offer? James Hardin wound up in Philly because Darrell Mori waited six months
Starting point is 00:51:47 to trade Ben Simmons. They are looking into the eyes of their counterpart. They are willing to be uncomfortable. They are willing to make things ugly. And in that way, they will be deserving each other for a very long time longer, I think. I give it months, not weeks. Scan the QR code if you were watching long
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