The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Chapel Bill

Episode Date: April 15, 2025

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Shadow show. Shadow show. Shadow show. Shadow show. Shadow in it. Shadow in it. Is it the new hat or does to God's look ten years younger I shaved

You you are clean shaven and I haven't seen that you know in a while. It's been a long time Last week, I think looks tan to clean shave it. It might be the hat. It's the hat It's it is a nice hat. It is a new hat Do you want to tell us the story of the hat with the hat? Because we have seen you dress a certain way for a long time now and we've seen the same hat for a while now So this hat is It's actually York you and I don't wear light colors very much So now I'm in a light shirt today and people have commented on that So I imagine you've been getting a lot of comments on your hat

Now this is the first comment I've received about the hat. I will tell you the story that I was at the Sphere. I have a residency there along with Dedding Company. And it was like two in the morning. I'm strolling through a little gift shop, the Wynn Hotel, and there was a mirror in there. And I looked at the hat I was currently wearing and it was stained. It looked really bad and I was embarrassed.

Even at a dead show at two in the morning, I was embarrassed about the hat I was wearing. And then I saw this hat. And I'm like, that looks like a good hat. Fits you well, too. I mean, I was microdosing on mushrooms. I was doing the things you do at dead-end company at the Sphere in Las Vegas. That looks like a hat you would buy while microdosing, but that's not your excuse today. You have decided to stay with the look, right? Well, yeah, because the other hat is still stained.

I don't know how to get stains out of a hat. I mean, so this is the cleanest, the newest hat that I have, and I like it. I think it's a good look, I don't know. At what point is it not micro-dosing anymore? If you take like six tablets. I've heard from a friend that you take a couple and you're like, oh, this is nice,

but then if you take six, you're not micro-dosing anymore. You're just dosing. You're overdosing. Put it on the poll, Juju, at Levitard Show. If you take six tablets, are you still micro-dosing? I took a hat to the dry cleaners once. It worked. Really?

I'm gonna put it on the poll, Juju, as well. Would you ever take a hat to the dry cleaners once it worked. I'm gonna really I'm gonna put it on the pole juju as well Would you ever take a hat to the dry cleaner? Not a baseball cap? It was a baseball cap It was one of my white baseball caps that I really like and it had state makeup stains and stuff So I took it to the dry cleaners They got it all out it got stained again within like three days And then I put it in my washing machine same results you could just put it in the wash I think my wife has done the thing where she buys like the little hat thing that you can put put it in my washing machine. Same results. You could just put it in the wash, I think. My wife has done the thing where she buys like the little hat thing that you can put

to put it in the washing machine. If you put the hat in this little thing, it keeps it, it won't mess it up. It didn't work. It messed up all the hats she's done it with. Washing machine tends to mess up the hats. I've heard dishwasher. Dishwasher works.

How does the washing machine mess it up? Mine was fine. Because of the cycle, I guess, if you have other things in there, they can compromise the structural integrity of the cycle, I guess if you have other things in there, they can, you know, compromise the structural integrity of the hat. Whereas the dishwasher, stationary, you don't have to worry about things bumping into it. The hat that was stained, did it get stained there? Or because I've, you have had hats

that you golf in and you wear a lot and they do get stained. So this one was more stained than the average stained hat? Yeah, this one was, this had arrived at a place where it was no longer wearable. I couldn't wear it anymore. You never know where a hat stain comes from. Right, yeah, I have no idea. All of a sudden you take it off, and you're like,

where'd that come from? Right, one day it looks like new, the next day, it's, you know, you're throwing it in the garbage, and you're getting one from the wind at two in the morning, microdosing. Chris, did, your wife has to be alarmed in the garbage and you're you're getting one from the win it to in the morning microdose it uh... chris uh... did uh... your wife has to be alarmed by the sheer number of hats she ruined right because you you seem if i had to guess who's got the most hats around here

it's you was it not no no like roy in billion might they have all those hats the uh... the the minor league hats that we got sent over the years. My wife hates the fact that I have so many hats. I have like, I got from the internet like two industrial size hat racks that you have in department stores and they're just packed to the brim

and it's overflowing, I have a separate crate for it. I, conservative estimate, I might have like 300 hats. And to answer your question, she doesn't ruin a lot of hats. Cause after the first one, I was like, you're never washing any of these hats again. This is the Don Leventor Show with the Stoogats Podcast. We'll get to the WNBA draft and an explosive article by The Athletic that's not all that

explosive but it's just about Belichick and his girlfriend so people are going to eat that up today because an open records request, I imagine even though the emails were not terribly damaging, I believe North Carolina will not make the mistake again of having a situation where they can be subject to an open records Request even though it's a school and I just got to imagine they're gonna be communicating more carefully now even though the the article Just makes Jordan Hudson his girlfriend look like a business beast like she's she's gonna be helpful for this and look like a business beast. Like she's gonna be helpful for this,

for Belichick in his old age. But before we get to that, I just, I need to start with, we've known Jessica here for four years now. I've never seen her as angry as I did before the show. And I was only catching glimpses of it, right? Because it was going past the door. And I don't know who she was yelling at

or where it was directed, but she is fed up with the idea of only Katy Perry going to space. Like, all I heard was just stray shots, and it wasn't anyone else that was bothering her, but it seemed like Katy Perry doing it bothered her. I mean, did it not bother you, Dan? Did it not bother you, Mike? I could see how it bothers folks.

This whole space thing, it's not just Katy Perry, okay? This started years ago. Maybe the first time they did it, I was like, that seems like a waste of money. Then the second time they did it, I was like, okay, what's the point of this? Now they're doing it, they're like, it's an all female space crew, oh my God, feminism, yes.

I don't care. Who cares? Like, what a turd, honestly. This just landed on my timeline like a turd yesterday, and I just don't care who cares like what what a turd honestly This just landed on my timeline like a turd yesterday, and I just don't care I'm like you were in space for 11 minutes you get off the flight you kiss the ground really like William Shatner went up into space however many years ago on one of these flights and said that it made him very sad It was a very sad and lonely and like just a profound Moment for him, and he and like just a profound moment

for him and he was like, I don't know why I did that. Basically I'll read the quote. No, please. No, I'm gonna find while you're talking, I'm going to find the quote because it was one of the best quotes I've ever read by anybody. William Shatner doing some real pondering while going up into space.

And I'm gonna find it right now. Gail King looked deeply unhappy. I imagine you'd be a little scared. No, no one else seemed scared. That's what she looked to me, Gale King, terrified. She looked every bit of, oh my god, I'm strapped to a rocket going into outer space and I may not come back.

Is that Katy Perry? And they were like, Katy Perry's saying in space, like, okay. Of course she did. I don't care. What a day for women. Okay, Katy Perry? And they were like, Katy Perry sang in space. Like, okay. Of course she did. I don't care. What a day for women. Okay, Katy Perry has had nine number one singles.

People forget. She was a superstar in the 2000s, early 2010s. Like, I loved Katy Perry. The biggest of superstars. This isn't about her music sucks, which her new album wasn't very good. This isn't about like her public persona. This isn't about any of the things that may annoy you about Katy Perry.

This is the fact that they just spent millions of dollars for an 11 minute space trip, and they were like, ooh, look, but it's all women. May I posit that it is a little bit about Katy Perry sucking now? Yeah, I mean, I'll give you a little bit. Yeah, because it feels like an overt marketing ploy. She reveals the set list while she's in outer space

to her tour, a tour that's reportedly been really struggling to sell tickets after a huge flop of an album. It felt like a transparent marketing ploy, which is like the only thing that really bothered me about Katy Perry going in outer space. I know you think it's a marketing ploy, but how do you know this wasn't her teenage dream? Get out.

Uh, don't do that to him. No, no, it deserves it. It's too early. Get out. It was forced. Get out. Okay. Okay.

All right. Let's see here. What do we have? Uh, let me see what we've got here. He had nine number one singles to choose from. Major penalty, five minutes, rooting comedy. Wow. Got to be high-sticking. I really got bullied.

I got bullied into that one by you guys. I have nothing, Dan, to say about the ethical implications of this, the moral implications of this, any of the things that are happening with Amazon. I put all of that aside, just the mere substance of people going to outer space, but it's not really outer space, but technically it is outer space, and this whole publicity stunt aspect of it. Who is it for?

Does anyone care? Well, you are understandably upset about this, and a lot of people are, yes I think. Bezos did faceplant, so that's good. I'm here for the content of it. The Gayle King looking terrified aspect of it, the force marketing ploy, Jeff Bezos faceplanting as he was being a concerned husband outside

of the spaceship. No, no, they got married, didn't they? Did they get married or, you know what, I think they got married, yeah. Who cares? Italy. Either way, he face planted. That's the headline. So this is part of the quote, I'm having more and more trouble finding things

because of the acid pit of AI that Google is and that everything is. So Shatner said of going into space, he's the oldest person to ever go into space, I wept for the earth because I realized it's dying. I dedicated my book, Boldly Go, to my great grandchild, who's three now, coming three, and in the dedication say it's them, these youngsters who are going to reap what we have sown in terms of the destruction of the earth. I saw more clearly than I have with all the studying and reading I've done, the writhing slow death of earth and we on it. It's a little tiny rock

with an onion skin air around it. That's how fragile it all is. It's so fragile. We hang by a thread. We're just dangling." And he said he started crying because it was just grief. Now, I will say that I have, and this will surprise no one listening to this, been told after crying on an airplane that at certain heights you get more emotional. And so I don't know if the higher you go, so I have been told, put it on the Poll at LeBattard show,

do airplanes, does traveling at a great height make people more emotional? This is a great bit to find out how the higher you go, do you cry at worse movies? Like if I can get up to 10 miles above sea level, am I crying at the end of 80 for Brady? Because at 30,000 feet, little women bawling my eyes out. I mean, oh my God, what a devastating, devastating film. Chris Cody was right, what a day for women, huh? Feels like it.

They're like, yeah, we're, you know, the government's gonna defund NASA, all of our science and medical research. We don't care about that. But like, look, we're going to space with Katy Perry. Look over here, Katy Perry's going to space. Would you wanna go to space? Not particularly.

He would, but he couldn't. What just happened there? I was trying to call back to, you could go to space. That was a good call back though. At least you did it well, yeah, from 10 days ago. Stay focused on the joke. Now that we've heard it. And the question. Yeah, but I thought the joke. Now that we've heard it. And the question.

Yeah, but I thought the joke was about I could live there, but I would live there. I think you could go to space, but you wouldn't. I couldn't go to space, and I wouldn't. So the joke doesn't work on any level. And you wouldn't. But I couldn't. How would I go to space? It's too expensive. Call Mickey space? I don't, like, it's too expensive.

Call Mickey Harrison? I don't know. You must have a connection. No, I can't. So wait a minute. So Mickey Harrison's cruise lines and not rockets. He's a rich person, so I just call Mickey Harrison. You know the guy. You say get me to space. So here, so I've said this before on the show. Like I legitimately, if you gave me, I live right here in the epicenter of Miami and I have for a long time. And if you gave me a challenge right now and said, Dan, buy yourself in an hour, get cocaine. I couldn't do it and I wouldn't know how to do it. Like I wouldn't know where

to where exactly to start. The alley where you get blood every morning. It's not every morning, it's every three months. But I legitimately don't know how to do that. So when you tell me, can I go to space? I don't think I can. Even if I wanted to, I don't think, I think this is just the exclusive domain of William Shatner and Katy Perry. I don't know how much this costs. I assume it's extraordinarily expensive. Coke? I'm guessing that. So I don't know.

How much, would you pay, you'd probably pay $25,000 for cocaine because it's just so foreign to you. Oh, if you're a coke dealer, you seek out Dan. He's a whale. Yes. Jesus. Just 25,000 sound OK. Is that all right?

Find out for me what it would cost somebody if they just wanted to go to space. Can you tell me what you're interested, Stugats, this athletic story, I imagine that this will, this is one of those that gets people behind the paywall because they are simply interested in the fact that Bill Belichick is 50 years older than his girlfriend and there was a lot of talk a couple of weeks ago because it was just uh... it was just known that uh... she was being she was involved in some of the

business operations and emails and managing and marketing of his career and in this open records request she has a title and so i she was i thought she was acting as sort of a manager manager slash agent but she is the chief operating officer of Belichick Productions. And so- COO. That's correct.

That is a high position. That's one of- Very high. That's one of his chief executives. And among the things she's handling is she's talking to their sports information department about how Steve Belichick is framed She is writing emails saying he is to be framed as his own person stay away from pictures of the two make sure that you are

Giving out his resume and try to avoid the idea of bills son And now there are two there are two Belichick kids on the staff, right? But only this was only in the older one the one that we know that we've seen on nfl sidelines she was also telling other social media people to get in the comments actions and start uh... did you know silencing people blocking people because one of the emails from uh... belichick himself was saying uh he was saying, I can't believe that UNC would in any way

be okay with me being called a predator because of who he's dating. And so they went and they scrubbed it and he and they are asking, it's flimsy. You can't, it's only 44 pages and you don't see the rest of the exchange, but you're basically snooping around in Belichick's office and you're through his email. And then the one that I think Stugatz is going to like is there's also on April 3rd,

a signed document with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office consenting to an application for 14 phrases. Chapel Bill. That was mine, I mean, to be fair. The Bellistrator. Jay Billis doesn't have that, I mean, in all forms of it. The Billistrator. Here's the Billistrator.

I know, but you have to take everything else, right? I get it. It's totally different. I don't get it. Like, Telestrator? Yes. But why? But Belichick, because, look,

I'm not saying they're good patents, I'm just saying they went for 14 of them. Don't bother with that one, that's what I'm saying. The first one's good. Chapel Bill is good. Chapel Bill is good. Chapel Bill is good. Yes. I want the rest.

I don't have all 14. The Athletic couldn't get all 14. They only got- Well, some explosive article. They only got 14 points. I said it's only explosive because people like reading about this, I would imagine. You didn't tell us that they had

Chapel Bill in parentheses Bill's version. Yeah, I didn't really even understand that it was version. It was spelled exactly the same way It's Taylor's version like Taylor Swift Come on, Dan You really the Belichick way been trademarked Minor penalty two minutes high-sticking real hot and cold with these jokes today. Speaking of female pop stars, how do they spell chapel? Because maybe he's like a chapel grown fan. Chapel bell.

Also, now that I've talked about another celebrity female artist, I did it again. I'm kind of scared. celebrity female artist. I did it again. I'm kind of scared. The last time I did this, it didn't end well for me. And I still don't talk about sea asterisks on the internet. I take back everything I said about Katy Perry. I don't wanna get another beef. Does Katy have the same kind of fans? Yeah, she definitely does.

No way. She must, she must. I mean, they're not doing work right now for her. She could use them. Chris, is your father okay? Because a Greg Cody Tuesday, I've gone too far into the show without addressing the fact that Greg Cody

is not here today, that Greg Cody is okay, he is well. He has the belly button umbrella that he had, or awning, whatever that thing was over his belly button umbrella that he had or awning, whatever that thing was over his belly button. What do we know about it now? It's been pushed back. I haven't seen his stomach yet. I know he's home yesterday and he was texting with me,

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Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Don LeBattard. Bob Kraft, the only reason your organization is good is because of Bill Belichick. Stugats. Belichick has done nothing since since Brady left he made the playoffs once. I think at the very least he should not be a first ballot Hall of Famer. They should make him wait like 10 years to get it. He's an overrated coach. This is the Don Lebatard Show with the StuGuardz. Oh, thank you for putting that behind me. There is JD Vance. I had not talked about that yet.

JD, you cannot put anything in the hands of these people and trust that it will be handled with care. JD Vance at Ohio State's championship celebration at the White House, that one hurts, right? Like I understand that humiliation requires people to be capable of shame, but that one hurts. Like he goes home at night and the image of that, if you care about Ohio State football, like all you gotta do is not that. That's the only thing

you gotta not do. You can do almost anything else. In fact, you have more range than you have ever had to do almost anything else wrong in this situation but that you can't do i'm guessing that that caused him some shame and there's plenty on that resume to cause shame but i'm guessing that one heard he's like how could i not know that that trophies two pieces how could i bach how could i botch that that completely i love how he reacts in a way like let me

pick this up real fast so no one notices. Like he kind of reacts in a way like, oh shit, let me do this really, here, no, nothing happened here, but it's like, yes, we all clearly saw this. Put the entire press corps there. Dan, to your point, if you've watched any college football

national championship games over the last five, six years, like 10 years, everyone knows this is a two-pisser, right? I mean, real ball watchers know. Put it on the poll at LeBataard Show. Did you know that the national championship trophy in football was two pieces? Those hands have to be slippery though, right?

Just all of it is slippery? Yes. No one loved that more than Trump. He's just like this. It wasn't me. Look at this guy. I would never do that. But they sent him up there because he was the Ohio guy.

Like, all right, Ohio State, here's Vance's chance to have a moment. And then the base of the trophy just slips out of his hands and he fumbles around for it. Like he's like dropping papers outside of his car. Someone has to yell there like in the group, one of the players fumble. Oski. There was there was wincing and gasping. Again, only one thing you can't do. Don't drop or break the trophy.

I mean, I suppose there are things that can be said that would also be a humiliation, but just that particular video, I'm guessing, you guys tell me, if that had happened to you do you think you'd have trouble sleeping that night that if because it's it's never fun Stu gots it can't be fun to anybody to be the source of viral shame like it even people who are super confident people even people who are indifferent about the internet I suppose the people who can avoid this are just people who aren't attached at all or in

any way to the Internet, but I was having a conversation the other day while we were in California as part of the South Beach Sessions series with both Mina Kimes and Bill Lawrence about the the effect of social media that I've been surprised by in my 50s when I wasn't affected by it in my 30s and my 40s. And like, I'm just super confused by sort of, like the way that what the internet is and what has always been has a corrosive effect on

my mind while we all sort of acknowledge, hey, this is a great untreated addiction that we all sort of have, that people walking around on the streets, you cannot walk 10 steps without seeing someone who is in their phone because these things have become appendages for us. But viral shame even to these, this clown car of people. I don't think he cares, Dan. I don't think JD Vance, I think he slept fine last night. You think he's immune to, so you're immune to shame because the reason I'm saying this one hurts is just like, hey.

Generally, that is the administration's superpower. Agreed. But no one can replicate POTUS's shamelessness. And JD has quite famously tried, but falls short. And I do, you see it on his face right here. Immediate shame. It's just, you're sent out there on behalf of Ohio. Here's the most precious thing Ohio has. It's the thing. Like give Ohio one thing. This is what they

want it to be. And you broke it in half and you fumbled. And it's like you got to go home and I don't know, I don't know what your wife says to to go home and and I don't know I don't know what your wife says to you in that situation I don't know how anyone soothes you in that situation but you just think Stu got you you I think they seem incapable of shame so I have a hard time thinking I'm certainly had plenty of things to do after that that day but I just think that they're incapable like no, he's not losing sleep over that man. He's done a lot worse than that It's a bad trophy too, right? It's got to be one piece the fact that it comes apart. That's terrible. It's bottom heavy. Yes

It's on the trophy makers. Yeah, it looks like a dick and a vagina. Yeah, I would say that's a plus I mean, it's the only trophy in sports that looks like both. Is it the only trophy in sports that's a two piece? No, I mean, I remember the old national championship trophy. The crystal ball was fixed on top of a really massive base, but people would lift the crystal ball up. In fact, NCAA trophies generally very flimsy. They're wood planks, they're two pieces, just give me, you know what, just give me a cup with two handlebars on the side. What are we doing?

Everyone thinks that the greatest trophy in sports is the Stanley Cup. There is no dispute of this. It is something that has a great history on, and is also a bit like sort of the Carpenter's Cup in Raiders of the Lost Ark that represents, you know, the golden enlightenment, because it's not particularly a beautiful trophy, but you know what it is, you know its history, and I suppose its size is awfully impressive, but you know what that trophy means.

I don't think it's actually beautiful. As a trophy though, if the Stanley Cup bowl came off of the base, this is what we're talking about here with this thing. But if you watch hockey, you would know. Pick it up with two hands or just pick up the top. This is one of the reasons though that I believe that there might actually be

a dollop of shame here. That's a terrible way to learn that. To learn that it's two pieces. You live in a post-shame society, Dan. Katy Perry's going to space. His assistant got fired, right? Somebody, like literally a handler. Like you need somebody.

You didn't tell me it was two pieces. You need somebody to handle that. The Pop-Tart it was two pieces. You need somebody to handle that. You see what you did to me out there? Oh I guess. I guess you wouldn't know. I would like to know if there is another trophy that is indeed two pieces. I think the Lombardi Trophy is the greatest of all the trophies in terms of being able to handle it, carry it. You can pick it up with one hand. I mean, it's great. It's an efficient trophy. It is, and it means more than any other trophy.

Stu Gotts, doesn't like the Claret jug have a awkward like lid on it or something that falls off a lot? Yeah, it does at the top, yeah. It's weird. Yeah. I think Stu Gotts is right though. Like as a trophy, you want,

the Stanley Cup is a cumbersome beast. It is, you cannot lift, no one can lift it up with one hand. You must lift it up with two. What's cool is that your name is on it for several generations before they retire those little cylinders and put it to the Hall of Fame. But you're etched in history forever.

And I know you're given the Lombardi Trophy and it's there on a display case and you get your Super Bowl rings and I guess that's your own personal trophy but the fact that part of the experience is everyone that grows up wanting to be a pro hockey player wants to have their name there they win it they go through it always is my cousin on there is look at all these legends that are on this Stanley Cup and they want to read every single name it's just it I think that's a cooler part of the experience there's

plenty of great trophies there's plenty of bad ones, but the Cup is just so far and above everybody else. No, I think the Cup is the coolest trophy for many of the reasons that you just described. I'm just saying the most efficient trophy to carry around with you is the Lombardi trophy or the Heisman trophy. Larry O'Brien trophy is pretty easy to carry around,

I think. I guess. Heisman's very heavy. You hold it by a leg though, right? No, the Larry O'Brien is also heavy. These carry around. I guess. Heisman's very heavy. You hold it by a leg though, right? The Larry O'Brien is also heavy. These are heavy trophies. Both of them are. We can all agree the World Series trophy aesthetically pretty, but doesn't really work

for carrying around, might get poked in the eye. So dangerous. The chance for being impaled by that trophy is much higher than any other trophy. How about Wimbledon? Nothing? Yeah, it's a bowl, right? Yeah, it's a bowl.

A dish? That's like. That's the runner up. A salad, like when you have company, you put salad in it. Lando Norris, baby Lando, for those who are fans of the F1 Minute. He broke, accidentally broke a porcelain trophy last year after a race,

I think it was the Hungarian Grand Prix, and it caused quite a scandal, quite a stir. I'm sorry, I just laughed to myself about Stugatz last week calling the green jacket a green coat. Ah, Rory got one. Yes, you were not here yesterday, so we should get your thoughts, because we were talking with glowing praise, I't know the last golf moment around here that felt

exactly like that one I can't off the top of tiger winning the Masters maybe I can't off the top of my head remember anything other than that it us talking about golf in a way that was purely positive and purely isn't golf great, or isn't sports isn't sports great because that's and and a reminder again like this this is the part right that's so interesting to me about Luca being traded or any millions of ways that ownership or corporate ends up ruining the emotion business by forgetting that it's the emotion business. We don't have a lot of those.

That your customer is connected to your thing in a way that is super strange. Our value, for example, is just a sports adjacent entity has to do with the power of the emotion business making the customer stick around for three hours when the entertainment industry is so splintered that and not just the entertainment industry and our attention spans are so splintered with the number of options that you have that staying in front of something for three hours and consuming it is a is a treasure chest and I'm just curious what your thoughts were about the way that golf captured America on Sunday. It's it's such an amazing tournament and it's why I love it so much and it's why it's my favorite sporting events

And I say that every single year. It's my favorite week on the sports calendar Saturday and Sunday at Augusta are just they're incredible days where Justin Rose has the lead But by the time he tees off Rory's ahead of him and suddenly he doesn't have the lead and what that does to your To your mentality and how you approach it from a mental standpoint thinking you're gonna have the lead and then you doesn't have the lead and what that does to your mentality and how you approach it from a mental standpoint thinking you're going to have the lead and then you don't have the lead by the time you tee off. I got to tell you Sunday was great to watch. It was also frustrating because that guy is such a talented golfer and I think what captivated the world was if he didn't close that out,

he's a career choker. But he did close it out and he got it done. And the way he got it done was ridiculous. But he went from career choker, maybe never overcomes that final round to one of the all-time greats. Well, he is up there Dan now with Tiger Woods. He is up there with, you can mention him in the same conversation because he has the career grand slam. It was frustrating from this standpoint. I'm not certain he deserved to win that thing. He blew it so many damn times I was getting aggravated with Rory McElroy. McElroy. That's one. We bet four and a half. The over under today was four and a half times you

would get that golf dyslexia. But the reason I think people get so frustrated with him is the talent is so obvious. It is so great. He might be the greatest ball striker we've ever seen, and I'm including Tiger Woods on the PGA Tour. And Chris Paul. And Chris Paul. 20 years, played 82 games, huh?

No rings. What's more impressive, 20 years, no rings, or 20 years playing 82 games? Who cares about the fact that he played 82 games? you know, I'm not going to do that. What's more impressive? 20 years, no rings or 20 years playing 82 games. Who cares about the fact that he played 82 games? I mean, seriously, you show up. You, I

don't care if I see Chris Paul play. I don't know, hey, in a day where superstars aren't playing anymore, you know, they play 50 games, they play 60 games. There's Chris Paul, 20 years in, still giving you 82 games. You know what he's giving you? 82 below average games. That's what he's giving you.

I want to ask you guys something. I was talking about the master. I don't know. I was surprised. Talking about how talented Rory is, and that's why we get so frustrated when he misses a four foot putt. You're too talented to be us.

I was legitimately surprised that you went straight to the Chris Paul take machine there. You lobbed it up. Well, but I mean, you said ball striker. You lobbed it up. When I'm said ball striker, you lobbed it up. When I'm sitting there watching though what you're talking about in terms of pressure, can you guys tell me what it is that you think of

when I ask the following question. The most pressurized thing that you watch where you feel for an individual in sports, the pressure on that individual's behalf, does anything do it with the speed and loneliness, the pace and loneliness that makes pressure in golf, the loneliness of it? You're alone over a ball with a stick, makes human beings who

know golf or don't know golf understand, oh, I'm watching this and I'm expecting a person not to have the mental strength to overcome how pressurized it is in this instance to be precise because he has time to think it's not muscle memory is like free throws there are a lot of places in sports where you actually have these people have been training so very much to get to those moments that whether it's an exhibition game or in the they're in the super bowl there's a level of focus involved that makes it an event that they don't even have to think they don't have to think.

Golf is something entirely different. Golf, you can feel the weight on these people. From one shot to the next, by the way. But they then walk down the course, right? So, like I was thinking about this, about the day, the times that they have to go to a playoff the next day. That's a tough night of sleep. Yes.

Because it's not just that you feel the pressure it's that you know that everyone watching you know is that you're under pressure like it's just it's different than playing in front of a stadium full of people and having you know a hundred thousand people or twenty thousand people all that stuff that's a lot of it breathing on you watching your performance the thing athlete risks okay and that that it's it there's bravery in it in being the gladiator or the entertainer you risk being embarrassed knocked out in boxing you risk being embarrassed in front of

everybody boxers can spend time thinking boxers fighters can spend time emotional like it's just going to be scientific sort of survival survival and so i felt this pressure on behalf of someone going in to fight one of the menaces, you know, the historic menaces, whoever it is that you consider the boxers of all time. Seeing them walk to the ring, I feel the pressure. But tell me, Chris, as someone who loves golf, where else, like I feel bad sometimes for the pressure on goalies or whatnot, but again, it's muscle memory, it's reflex. They're not spending a lot of time knowing

that they're under pressure, aware of it. Baseball pitchers? Yeah. I mean, in basketball, it's on the foul line, right? Yeah, I mean, I can't, to your point, there's not a lot of examples of time to think in sports. Well, you don't think, when you think baseball, even a quarterback on a last minute drive, right?

Quarterback on a last minute drive drive right quarterback a last-minute drive that whole thing takes less than two holes but this is on all day thing that you're living with it's the last day i've been playing for ten years i haven't won this guy's chasing me uh... we all feel it is what i'm saying we're all sort of there with you but we don't really understand it and so when do you understand it when he's walking off at the end and you see, oh my God, he was terrified.

He was Gale King trying to go into space. Maybe Clayton Kershaw making postseason starts, guys like that, that are historically great regular season pitchers, right? Pitchers specifically that then have a big start later in a postseason when they've struggled. But those are few and far between. There are not a lot of guys who were that dominant

in the regular season and then don't have those moments in the post season. That's the only thing I can think of. Cause even a closer, you don't know whether you're going in that day or not. You don't have to wear that with you all day long unless you're someone like Brad Lidge that like blew a big game

and now you've got to go into the next one with a chance to win. I was, sorry Dan, I was mistaken about the Claret jug. Wow, okay, Jeremy, give a fist bump I guess for your Brad Lidge reference. Yeah, they do that when I make good points now I guess. It wasn't a Claret jug, because that's a jug, it doesn't have a lid, I should have realized that.

It's the Wanamaker trophy. Colin Morikawa, PGA championship. Colin Morikawa. The top fell off, yeah. Yeah, lifted it up after he won and the top fell off. I wanted to do a clarification. Another great trophy in sports. I guess you could argue, even though there's an actual trophy for the Masters, there's the green jacket

that everybody wants to have in their locker. The green coat, yeah. One day. But there was a great trophy that was handed out over the weekend at Bristol Motor Speedway. You get a sword if you win at Bristle. Wow. Yeah, yeah, a functional sword. I think our video team has a photo of what Kyle Larson

won. A big old pointy sword. Okay, but you guys are throwing things at the video team and the video team wasn't ready for what you threw at them. Oh, no. They actually told me they were. So, line the... We have a sword. You line the curtain. Yes. Okay, because I was waiting for the Claret jug to be dropped there.

Or I was waiting for the cleric jug to be dropped there But are we gonna see the video we got Jeremy fist bumping because I'd like to I would like to see that video That would be something not that video. That's not the one that I want to see You know Chris Paul had a pretty good year reported the news Well, let's talk about this for a second because Stuugats, how's he gonna do in the post season? Oh, he won't be there. That was the joke, Jeremy. You could have just let that sit. The joke, that was the, yeah, he won't be there.

Not being there is going around. I was not being in the finals is the joke. I was hitting Rangers fans with that all last night at the Panthers game. Like, good luck in the play. Oh, that's right, you're not gonna be there. Over 50% on two point field goals, 38% from three, seventh in the league in assists.

Chris Paul, 40 years old, 82 games, how about that? They outscored teams when he was on the floor. The Spurs, they were terrible. I cannot believe he has played to this age because he doesn't have cartilage in his knees and hasn't since he got out of wake. It's crazy There's nothing that can move Stu gots off of this position, right? Like I Chris Paul actually winning the thing but that's not gonna happen

No, you think that would move him off probably not know at least like that's the one Possibility to move him off of his his Chris Paul hate My problem with Chris Paul is when we, back at ESPN, Steven A would come on all the time and say he's a top 10 point guard of all time, and he's not, that's all, that's it, he's not. All the greatest point guards in the history of the NBA have won at least one title, at least one. Chris Paul, none.

Congratulations on 82 games. It's not just 82 games though, it's 82 games and he played very well It's still good. He's 40 right 7th at the league. It's just mm-hmm. They'll be watching the playoffs with me and you That's a lot party We should hire we should get Chris Paul. Yes, I bet he can get you into space. He's always available I bet he can get you into space. He's always available this time of year. Not outer space.

We've got Jamal Crawford coming on later. Will you settle for some Jamal Crawford? Jay crossover. By the way, $250 grand to go to space on Richard Branson's rocket. Yeah. What? It's cheap.

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