The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Chasing The First Jai (feat. George Cloney)

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

"Have you ever done heroin?" The Cyclones have a battle court championship tonight, so the entire crew is getting ready to head out to Magic City for one of the biggest nights in show history. Except for Zas, who has to do radio. And Tony, who has to move. And Jeremy, who also has to move. And Roy, who... needs to get his skating legs underneath him?!?!? WHAT THE F***, ROY?!?! Today's cast: Some guy who sounds like Bert & Ernie, Chris, Jeremy, Mike, Roy, and Tony. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stucats podcast. Look at, look at all the space I have today. Look at this, everybody. Sitting on the throne by myself in the big room. Everybody, come see how good I look. All right. You guys are very fired up on that side. So, oh, this is ridiculous.

Let me see if I got the fact side. this, let me see if I got this, all. First of all, before we get to everything that's actually happening in that room right now, let's make sure everybody knows, today's a huge day. All right, today's a very, very big day. Perhaps the biggest, Sazz, what are you talking about? The heat aren't playing tonight. The Panthers aren't playing tonight. How is this a big day? All right. But Mike, Cyclone, this is right? This is it. This is the Magic City Fronton finale. The final battle. battlecourt game ever played at the Magic City Casino.

We are moving venues next year. It is Battlecourt Championship Day. Big Day or not Big Day? It's a big day. It's a big day. Perhaps something is of my life. And I came in with a certain type of energy. It's not every day that you get to wake up knowing that the team that we co-own can win a championship.

Today, 7 p.m. Live on YouTube, live on the ESPN app. ESPN 3 is still a thing I've been told. Now, that's for real. Like, it's on. So I'm on ESPN tonight. I'm on ESPN radio tonight. You are busy.

You have a good excuse. I could literally Google what you're up to tonight. But like I could tell people while I'm on tonight. I'm doing the show with Amber Wilson. And I could tell people while we're on like, hey, you could go watch on the app. You could watch the Cyclone. That's a real thing. That's right.

If you want to see a championship tonight, like a lot of people don't know. Some people are just at home. What are we going to watch tonight? You can see a championship one tonight. If you're not in Miami. if you're listening to us abroad, I just booked your Friday night plans,

open up a nice bold cab, cuddle up on the couch, and watch the Cyclones win a championship. How long is a highlight match? It depends. Doubles take longer in the battle court final. It's all doubles.

That's what the playoffs are. So this could last about like two hours. It depends. But is it kind of like tennis where it's really short or really long? Anywhere between two and three hours. Three would be. A long match.

Three. A long time, man. Three hours. Oh, stop. All right. Everything slows down in the playoffs. How long is the radio show? Three hours?

One seven to ten tonight. Okay. You want to do it live from the front on? I would. That would be amazing. It does get a little loud. Would be amazing. Why don't you do it?

Yeah, you should do it. I mean, I feel like it's a little bit late for me to sell that to ESPN. No. Hey, come set me up down at Magic City. Live from a championship. I know. I would like that. But this is something we should have arranged before 10 hours.

still showtime. You could argue corporate synergy. Hey, we have a championship game being played on the ESPN app. And I can broadcast live from there. You guys send me, you guys send me to some of the biggest sporting events in the nation. That's right. And this is one that's in our backyard. Now, how, when I, when I'm selling it on the air to listeners, like, hey, how do I sell it? I think you should, number one, tell your update anchor to play it straight. Like, you have sport, do they still just do it at the top of the hour? Yeah, wouldn't that be a Amazing. Top and bottom. Top and bottom.

Depends what date part you're on, but tonight when I'm on, it's top and bottom. Top and bottom, we've got to legitimize this sport. So just make sure it's a simple sell. Hey, sports fan, do you like to witness greatness? You want to see the best back quarter in the world? Go for a title tonight? I mean, it's just like, Unda, the revelation. Are you guys, have you had moments where you're thinking yourself how it's going to feel to own?

I'm not going there yet. To be the, you haven't thought of it. So this is exciting because I have lifted the prestigious BattleCorp trophy. It was inside the bubble. It was a COVID season, the first ever season. And it's, you know, have you ever done heroin? Everyone says you're chasing that first high for the rest of your life. And that's been us with Battlecourt.

We're chasing that first high. I wasn't even there for that when I was on a cruise. He was on a cruise. Wow, absentee owner. Let me trust, but we've been there. Can you imagine if the heater in the NBA finals and Mickey Arison's on a cruise? cruise? I could actually, yeah, because that's his other job. That was a bad example

because he was a bad example. No, it's a great example because he would never be on the cruise. Of all the examples in sports, though, probably the worst. No, that's why it's a great example. Because he owns it and he would still never be at that job. You're bad at analogy. You don't know what you're talking about. You don't know what you're talking about. He owns Carnival Cruise

lines. That would be a legitimate excuse. Better than what Roy's got going on tonight. Okay, so that's what's happening tonight, all right? And I'm I'm going to make sure everybody on ESPN radio knows what's going on that they could watch you guys on the ESPN app because that's how I roll, all right? But all that excitement that we just described,

Mike Ryan is also a little bit angry because for the last few days... I am a little bit angry. For the last few days, Mike Ryan has been coming in... You know, he's been in the office here. Got that Burton-Earney cadence. It drives me wild. And he'll say, like, who wants to come on... Friday, clone cartel, you know, I got a suite, I want to make sure that there's enough room

for everybody. And I specifically told Mike, I'm like, oh, man, I would totally come, which I would, I would totally come, but I'm working tonight. I can't. I know, I know you to be busy. Yeah. So, apparently, like, everyone else is giving you excuses? This entire back room, open invite, courtside seats. When have you ever been offered a courtside seat to a championship before? Jeremy, you ever been up close to a game before? No, never in my life. Another bad example. Certainly not a finals game.

Yeah, certainly not. And you won't be, unless you trade Tyler Hero. More on that in a second. But I assume, look, we're all doing this together. Our show owns the cyclones. That's always been the way that I view it. It's not a Chris Cody team. It's not a Mike Ryan team.

It's a Dan Levitard show with Stu Gott's team. And Dan's not going to be there. Stu's certainly not going to be there. It would be a real shock if you were. That would be an upset. That would be something. That would be a swerve. That'd be something.

text me back. And I assumed, I guess, ignorantly, that everybody here would be super psyched and matched our level of excitement. We've been talking about the Battle Corps Championship for weeks on end, and I know that you've been busy. It's cool. But I was like, Tony, you're excited tonight? Can't wait to see you there, pal.

And he's like, oh, I would go. I would. I definitely would go. What's your excuse? I'm not an excuse. Don't couch is an excuse. You definitely wouldn't. I would.

No, no, I would. Don't tell me you would when the opportunity is staring at you right in the face. I've gone. If you would, I don't remember you going. If you would. He's been. He's been a long time. Then you would go.

My buddy, Tommy, for getting too close to the net that one time that, I don't know, who was. Well, that's a rookie move. You don't walk too close to the net. You remember that or no? Everybody knows that. I drink a lot of these things. And he's not going. He's got like a dryer getting delivered.

I got one of those pods being delivered. And I'm like, at 7 p.m. for first toss, you have a pod. What does that even mean? So I'm moving. We bought a house. You got to move my stuff, right? The thing is we got to move out this weekend, and I got to start doing the work early, right? They're going to put the pod in.

What work? You didn't hire a mover? You got money for a mover, buddy? Yeah. Send it to me. You're doing this all yourself? I'm doing my brother, too, my brother-in-law? I can't think of anything.

It's only a couple of things. Suck-in-law with a pirated shirts? Yes. No, I don't like it. Moving on your own? Suck-a-behavior. It's not suck-up behavior because... It is. You're a sucker.

All right. Hard art. So, Tony... Wow, I didn't expect that this early in the morning. We only use A's for suckas. So Tony's out. Very insulting. Jeremy, what's your excuse? I'm also moving. That's a lie.

This is a lie. How many people can possibly move on a front? You know what? Everybody knows the great window to move is Friday evening. Everybody saves their moves for Friday evening. Every community has laws that, like, you can't move. on the weekends. So here's what's happening. I already live in my home, but for the last two months, I've been out of my home because we had a leak in our house. But you're serious? We're doing a moving

kind of thing as well? Yeah. There was construction in our house for the last two months. Today is the day that we are kicked out of the Airbnb. It's the last day that we have for rent. We literally, as of yesterday, got the sign off to be back in our house. All of the timing worked out great. The unfortunate part is that the timing also meant there would be a controversy with Highline. This is the bullshit. I don't like this. This is the bullshit. All right.

Now we're moving on. It's the truth. This is the bullshit. You think I'm a liar? You call me a liar? Waiting for, you know what? Everybody loves their weekend plans of moving on Friday night. There's nothing I could do about it.

Insurance would only cover this Friday. Oh, I'm moving. I have no choice. And then we turn our attention to Roy. Roy? A legacy member of the cast. Someone that I know would love to celebrate a championship. And I said, hey.

Family-friendly. Kids free. This is free to the public. This is the best bargain in town. And I'm like, Roy, you come in a night? And he's like, ah, ah, ah, I didn't go, ah, ah, let's not know. You were searching. You're searching, and guess what he told me?

I don't know. I got one person hosting radio. That's okay. I can Google it. I got two people moving at the exact same time on a Friday night. I don't believe them, but whatever. You know what Roy told me? I'm going to the practice rink.

There's no way. There's no way. Uh, yeah. As you know, the Winter Classic is coming down in about two weeks, and I have to get my skating legs under me because... Oh, you're practicing. Yeah. Oh, I thought you were like going to watch the Panthers practice. No, the Panthers are on the road. I can't know. You understand how road trips work? Roy's lacing them up because he's got a big one against the rags. Yeah, so yeah, I had to get my skating legs under me. Okay, hold on. What is... That's by far the most ridiculous excuse I've heard.

What is you skating have anything to do with the Winter Classic? There's a media skate And I'm going to be a part of that When you say skate, like a game? Yeah, not a game Like you get to go on the ice at the ballpark Wait a second You're training for a casual skate around the rink

Yeah This is bullshit Outside of Rockefeller Center He's getting his skating legs under him I go to Kendall Ice Arena Like once every three years Trust me, I don't need to train for it I hope at 7th

I'd like to see you skate then I do Every three years That is the bullshit That is the bullshit You're the bullshit. You're the bullshit. You're the bullshit.

This is a completely fair point that Mike Ryan is making because I haven't skated. I haven't ice skated in years. And I know if you took me to an ice skating rink right now, I'll skate my pants off. I would like to see that. I would not. He's poor Canadian. You don't forget how to skate. Like I could easily.

Skating is like riding a bike's at? Yeah, it really is. It really is. For you, maybe. It is. If you didn't ever know how to skate, though, and you're learning. But he's learned. The learning's been done.

He's already a learned skater. He's a learned skater. At 7.15 the night, when the intense moment, we're about to have first toss, I want just a cut to what Roy's doing. This is insane. I thought he was training for a media game. Because that's what I heard a year ago when he began his training. And now it's just a casual jaunt around a rink in a baseball park. I've never once in my life gone to Kendall Ice Arena and been like, damn, I should have

train for this. You're going to go backwards? I'm going to try. Roy, you just started, like you just learned how to skate? Yes. How long ago? I learned how to play on skating about a couple months ago. And what about learning how to actually skate? How to actually skate not intensely before this year. So, no, it was really the first time I really learned how to skate. Wow. When you first got out there, were you out there like with the bullshit where, you know?

No, with the sled, no. No, no, no. We have a live look at what Mnue is doing this morning to prepare for tonight's past. That's the best back quarter in the world. That guy plays for us. That's your boy? That's your boy? My new la douche. That is AI.

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Stugats. It's a good algorithm. This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats. Boy, I want to hear who, and we're going to get back to the clones, all right? I want to hear who else is skating in this. media skate. Well, I don't know.

I just know that the league email email. I'm going to text. They emailed you to be like, hey, Roy, do you want to skate before the game? I'm texting Peter Blacker right now. It's not, hey, are you training for this casual skate? What is it? It's like, I don't know, maybe a week or two, a week before the game or something like that. So it's a week before the game that you're just going to

skate on ice. I can take you to the ice arena. Tell you what, I'll make you a promise. I will go watch your little bullshit skate around and support you. If you and the family, including Princess Claire, come out and support the team you co-own tonight, Magic City Fronton, 7 p.m. First Toss, Eastern. You need a credential for a skate there.

For the Fronton? Are you telling me I can't come to your casual skate? Hold on a second. Are you telling me I can't pull a cred? Let me tell you, I'll be there with a lanyard on. I will have a fancy-ass lanyard in Vice City colors. He'll wear a hat that says press on it. I will be there.

He'll have level one access. I love to see you. Yeah. You'll be on the ice with you. How about that? Oh, you guys skates? This is the, I can, yeah, and I don't need to train for it. I don't need to train for it.

I'll be like, well, it's one of those times. Once an Olympiad, Mike laces them up. And look, I'll be fine. I'll be okay. Race her on the ring? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'll be okay.

This is the bullshit that I was telling you about it says. Wow. Roy, look at me in my eyes. Wow. Bad excuse. Oh my God. Roy, Magic. Roy, Magic.

game seven and you're like Chris you going tonight and I'm like I'm going to play volleyball my friends no no no Chris is like I got to practice volleyball because I'm playing in a couple of weeks what would have Roy what would happen if you didn't go to practice tonight and you show up to the media skate like would you just be you be falling down all over the place over the Roy what's the other you know I went to cyclones you think they're going to be scouts there think the Rangers are going to be there like wow that guy should have trained three weeks ago you don't know I mean at least Roy's being honest Jeremy she's just making up making up Making up a move.

See, I was just thinking to myself, I feel so much better. I feel almost no guilt now because I actually have something to do. All right. So if we're going to write- What are you talking about? How many more times do you plan on skating before this ultimate practice skate? Great question. Hopefully several more times.

Exactly. So you got several more opportunities. That's a worst answer. You could possibly get from the plans. I had no choice. I have to be out of the therapy and be. Airbnb. What?

I even need possibly more important about battle court change. More money on this Airbnb

is not working and it's unbelievable. Got to tell you a little disappointed in this group. So Mike,

Chris, because both of you guys, you'll obviously be there, your owners. They don't do it. Wentz will be there.

Okay. Ethan. If we haven't told you yet, Ethan's going to be there. Oh my God. If we had to rank level of disappointment.

No, definitely not going to be there. If we had to rank level of disappointment with unattendance, Number one with a bullet is Roy That's the bullshit

And I don't believe Tony Straight up his excuses I got a pod being delivered at 3 p.m. Eastern time I didn't say 3 p.m. I said the window is 5 to 7 No you didn't no you didn't So if we hit that early window you'll be there Yeah you said you would I said I would

I said you would I would Opportunity is a knocking Yes it once it knocks then I'll know All right 635 I'm like I don't know I'm in West Kendall Lowest on the spectrum of disappointment is Jeremy because, quite honestly, between us, I didn't even want them there. I had to invite them.

Also, keep in mind, this is going to be content for the hockey show, so. Well, what? This is... Content for the hockey show? What? The Dan Lebitard show with Sue Gottz owns a flipping team. We can win a flipping championship. Content for the hockey show, trust me.

Your content for the hockey show is going to be fine if you don't get one of your next six training skates in. This is the bullshit. Boy, I did not expect a Friday. We should all be in a great mood today. We should all be excited about tonight, and I not expect this level. Our mascots here. Of disappointment. Yeah.

Name the mascot. I don't know what goes with Clooney. Do we call him Clooney? Oh, that's a nice name. George Clooney. George Clooney. It's a nice name. Yeah.

Go get George Clooney. Go get George Clooney in here. Whenever he's ready, bring him in here. He can hang out. He could support tonight's efforts. There he is. Bring him in. Look at that.

Oh, it's a little bit scary because he's a cyclone. You know, I'm a little bit, I'm a little scared. Oh, here he is. Hey, Cloney, my man, come sit down right here. Hey, Georgie. Here you go. George Clooney. There he is.

Can he sit in that is the real question? Let's see. All right, he can sit. All right. It's just going to be grilling me here. You know why we're not going to the Super Bowl this year? That costume. You're looking at a $20,000 costume.

Worth every penny. You're a little disappointed. and I get it. Hopefully everything works out for you tonight. But let me see if I can try and turn that frown upside down. What's that slogan from? Anyone? Anyone? I don't know where it originated. Lino Playworld.

Turn that frown upside down. I don't know. I'm sure they said that before. Put that thumb in this direction. That was the big rival to Toys R Us growing up. Lionel Playworld. Anyway. So... That was KB Toys. Toys. Oh, KB Toys is a great toy store growing up. They had one to

have in Turnow. He's a love going to KB Toys. Yeah. You went to it? Wait. weren't you like 18? 18 what? When the KB Toy Store opened up in Aventura Mall. No, KB Toys, man. I was a little boy. They had KB Toys.

It was right next to J.C. Penny. Man, you don't know what you're talking about. That's right. I forget that Aventura Mall was like a mall before they totally redid it. Yeah, Aventura Mall's been around forever. Yeah, but it wasn't worth a note at all until they redid it. I don't like it now. It's not good now.

It's far as hell from where we are. It's not good. Ventura so far. How do they still call that Miami? That's not Miami. It's not it. It's not, it's not, it takes you two hours to get there. It's on the border. Anyway, let me see if I could turn that attitude in a brighter direction. What if I told you guys that Janus Antetucco might be interested in the Miami Heat? What if I told you that that's the direction that the reports are in right now that Janice, there are reports out there that Janice Ante de Kumpo might be interested in the Miami Heat. Would that be something you will be interested in?

I might be interested in that. Just give me a second. I'm going to pull out the dent that's in George's eye. So Janus Antecoompo, this is according to Howard Beck, a very respected NBA guy. Yanis on Tentacucoopo reportedly likes the Miami heat as a landing spot if he can't land in New York. Quote, again, in doing the Janus story and talking to people around the league, Miami was suggested to me as a place Janus would really love to land if it's not New York, end quote. Clooney, how you feel about that Janus report right there? I mean, come on now. Here's the thing.

All right. Yonis can want to go to New York all he wants. I don't see how New York acquires him. And the reason I say is, okay, New York's obviously going to give up Carl Anthony Towns. Fine. But they don't really have anything else to give up. And there's no reason Milwaukee would be in on just Carl Anthony Towns because Janus is a lot better than towns. And, you know, they're not any good right now with Janus.

So why would they want towns? New York doesn't have any draft picks. They have no draft picks that they have. a trade. So if you're at Milwaukee, you can't just build by getting Carl Anthony Towns in return. So Janus can want New York all he wants, but I don't see it as a realistic destination. The packages that they could potentially offer would be towns and some filler of role players that aren't the names you recognize and pick swaps, or they could offer Kat and McKell Bridges together. But to your point, Zaz, when you're trading away.

a superstar, particularly within the same conference to a team that obviously would be elevating itself, you don't often see a trade like that, not be for a haul for your future. So theoretically, a top prospect with high upside plus several picks. And the heat aren't the only team that can offer something like that. Like if Atlanta was willing to offer Jalen Johnson and several picks, that's like probably the best thing that could potentially happen. But, But it depends on what both the bucks and Janus ultimately want here. And will they handle it the same way that Portland did and just send him wherever they feel like? If he decides he wants out, will they be able to keep a good relationship?

Like these are all the questions that you ask as this unfolds over the next, you know, a few months. But we're three days away from essentially everyone being open to being traded from every roster that's starting on December 15. And it's like the question is Milwaukee's still doing the thing where they're not listening to offers, even though they're obviously listening to offers because they have to listen to offers, right? Every time a player has gotten to the point where he's going to request that trade, the team always starts with they're not listening to offers.

Yeah, so we're not listening to the 29 offers that are pouring into our inbox every single second of the day. And then I love the report. It's like, Golden State says, hey, we'll trade you, Dremont. Now, hold on a second. And everybody's like, okay. Hold on a second. When you say Golden State, like, what does that mean,

Golden State says? There's been conversation, said that Golden State would offer Draymond Green as part of a trade. Okay, so what you originally said it, you made it sound like Steve Kirk in front of a microphone said, yeah, we would trade Draymond for, being honest. Basically, type. For Milwaukee, by the way, when we're talking about picks, like this year they have a pick. It's just whichever one is the worst of their pick and New Orleans, likely to be their own

pick. But if you look forward in the next few years, they're not going to have a 2027 pick. they're going to have the least favorable of several different teams picks in 28 they don't have a pick in 29 they're going to have a pick swap with portland in 2030 so they have some draft picks available to them but the real likelihood here is they're going to be looking for some draft capital because even if they struggle over the next few years their picks aren't going to be great now that is where you could convince yourself if you're on the next side of this well if their own first round picks are

going to be swapped with other teams, they might as well end up with the worst possible pick because who cares, right? If you get a bad pick, the other team's just going to take that from you and you might want to remain competitive. But normally the way this all ends up working itself out, these teams are looking for a giant haul in return for their superstar. So whether that ends up being like I just mentioned, if it's Jalen Johnson and Atlanta, there are other teams that can make these offers. But I don't think that they would do it either. Like, that's the thing. I think Atlanta's in the space presently where they've decided, like, that's their guy.

Jaylon Johnson could be the best player in the Eastern Conference in three years. Right. And I think that they'd be more likely to move Trey Young as a piece to a team that thinks that could take them over the top or dismantle things around it so they can build around Jalen Johnson. Then they would be willing to move him in exchange for Yannis to pair with Trey Young. That's where you look at the Miami Heat and you say, whatever their best offer is may actually end up being at the very least. least near the best offer that Milwaukee can get. And if that's one of the two places that Yannis would want to be, that's where you go. But the weird part about all of this has become, like normally this show and Heat Twitter are doing all of the hope trafficking. Right now,

we've all been sort of like resigned to Yonis won't end up here. And this is all coming from national voices. Howard Beck is not a guy who's funny that you're saying that because I haven't seen a ton of it from Heat fans either on social media where it's like he didn't get Yonis. They should do this. You've finally been broken. Maybe. One touchdown can change everything, the crowd, the momentum, the entire game. It never gets sold.

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you'll see that your vacation isn't really over until your flight is over. Fly Emirates, fly better. Don Lebertard. If Daniel Day Lewis did it, you'd be jerking off all over yourself. Oh, come on. Yeah, I would be. Aggressive description. I mean, what is it?

What is that? I'm just saying. You know what? That's me. You're just saying what? That's me. Daniel Day Lewis does something. I see that photo of Daniel Day Lewis looking like Lincoln before he's about to start filming Lincoln.

And you know what I do? I mean, Stugats. I jerk off all over myself. That's what I do. Lincoln, who you outed the other day? Don't make this a rejoin. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. Mike look like Nick Cage on skates in this.

It's a very con air, right? Yeah, you look. That's me with a lanyard at Roy's skate around. And look how confident I am, upright on my skates. Ankle's not turned in. You know why? It needs the sleeve. But honestly, it looks a little bit more like Frank Kaminsky.

And look, you got the lanyard in the credential. You belong. I look like Mr. 305 eats there. Shout out to George. Yeah, shout out to George. We like George. George went to the last battle court championship that we were in. We lost that one.

We're one in the battle court finals. Not George Richards. You're such a mark for hockey, man. Who? What a mark? Who the hell is George Richards? What a mark? No, no, no, no, no.

No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, back off. We love George Richards. I don't know who that is. Roy, you don't know that fool? Roy, I'm making a personal appeal. It would mean a lot to me and Chris. I feel like I'm speaking for it, Chris here.

May I? You may? We want you there. We want you. We want a need. We want Claire. We want the. Bellamese. We want them

all there at the Magic City for on time. Belamese. Yeah, but Roy wants to go skis. He'd rather skate than go to the Battle Corps Championship. That's embarrassing. Bellamese. You shut the Bellamy. I'll be there.

Whoa! In spirit. Oh! You what a dirty fake out. That was a good psych. That was a good psych. Mike, I have good news for you, though. I can't make it.

That's great news. And, and, and I'm sending my replacement. Jason will be there. Oh, I love your brother, James. He'll be there in my stead. Your brother's really good when he's on this show. I'll ask him. Jason Tashay can do whatever he wants around these parts.

He is A-OK with me. Terrific. So Jeremy explains there what Milwaukee would want in a potential yonist trade. And here's where Adam Silver, the softest commissioner and all of professional sports, is really screwing the heat. All right, because the heat only has, like, the heat can realistically. put together a package for Janus. A package that starts with Keloware, of course.

You're going to throw in Tyler here most likely as well. And we'll give you Nico Jovich too. But you want to have the opportunity to give all the picks. And the heat only have two tradable draft picks right now. Why is that? That's because the Hornets and the NBA screwed the heat. All right. And like, Tony, you understand how this works?

Like, why? It wasn't even a screwing. It was a royal screwing Zaz. That's right. They screwed the heat. and what's Adam Silver doing about it? Sitting on his hands. Nothing. Nothing. That's his move. Do nothing.

He's doing nothing. He's doing nothing. Some people do something. He did nothing. This is going to get figured out, right? No? No. Why? What faith do you have to get him figured out? It's just so unfair. Yeah, it's very unfair. Yeah, maybe there's a memorandum. We can send like, hey, guys, this is unfair.

A memorandum of understanding. Yeah, one of those. Oh, don't get me. started on that. I was listening to... Memorand? I was listening to an Ivan Mazzle interview on... It was actually pretty interesting. Ivan Maisel

wrote a book about Notre Dame and he is also on the college football playoff selection committee. And he joined a podcast... Didn't he used to be like a reporter for ESPN? Yeah, right? Yeah. He... How many CFP podcasts have you listened to the last couple weeks? I've listened to a lot of them.

You're a 1.5 speed guy, right? Yeah, I'm 1.75. Wow. But... I never do that. Should I do that? Your ears are just. 1.5.

You figure it out. 1.75 is hard. 2.0 is a little crazy, but 1.75. I read a book about Garth Brooks allegedly being a serial killer in like a day. So anyways, Ivan Maisel was on this podcast. It was Gene Wojikowsky, or Wojikovsky? I think it's a Hausky. I think it's a Hausky.

Pat Forty and some other guy. And Ivan Maisel was on it. And this is the first time that I've heard anybody from the college football playoff selection committee do an interview. And as you know, Ivan Miesel made news recently because Notre Dame's bookstore canceled an appearance because he wrote a book on Frank Leahy, the Notre Dame coach. So whenever Notre Dame came up in the college football. Well, that's not why they canceled it. They canceled it because he's on the committee and Notre Dame got left out. Yeah. Ivan Mizel, by the way, was not happy about that and they have since rescheduled.

In fact, Pete Bavacqua? He reached out to Ivan Mizel to apologize because the bookstore was acting independently. Ivan Mizelle was ready for all the smoke. Annie Hoodles. Ivan Maisel gave keen insight into the selection process and I thought I would come away encouraged by it. I was more gaslit than ever. Because, like...

Well, he recused himself, right? He did. Anytime the Notre Dame Fighting Irish would come up, like a light would go up on his laptop. He's barred from talking about Notre Dame because he wrote that book and Stanford. A light would come up on his laptop. A light would, like, they're all like,

in this meeting room and anytime like they talk about Notre Dame like a light comes up on his laptop to signal to all the other committee members like yeah he can't he can't be here he has there are certain like tears of access he had access to remain in the room some people have to recuse themselves completely and have to leave the room entirely well yeah isn't that what happened with ward manual a couple years ago with michigan yeah he uh Ivan miser was able to stay in the room just he would have to be you know zip up the lips wow so Ivan Misesel was there and he was explaining the whole like Miami, Notre Dame, because it defies common sense that no one in that room until Sunday was like, guys, these two teams played and

Miami beat them. But he was genuine in that the head-to-head never came up with Miami, not once. And guys, Kim, Kim, what are we? What the, are we doing? You don't believe him. So the way like I sincerely I do believe him because someone can come out and say that's not true I believe him but this is where I lost so much faith in the process his argument for like let's say the penultimate episode was BYU in between Notre Dame who was ahead of BYU and Miami and the way that they would genuinely look at it is

well we think BYU is better than Miami and we think Notre Dame is better than BYU and that's like when you hear that in a vacuum you're like okay but Miami and Notre Dame are 10 and 2 and Miami beat Notre Dame this is common sense how can BYU be better than Miami but Notre Dame be better than BYU

if Miami beat the team you're saying is better than BYU that's transitive theory that's right the transitive property this is common sense this is applied in AP rankings since the dawn of the AP rankings yet for whatever reason these 13 people

never thought until Sunday that this was ridiculous. It boggles the mind. And I came away saying, thank God for this weekly show. Thank God for it. Even though it's like a dog and pony show, even though it was part of the problem that Notre Dame rightfully has with this process,

it holds people accountable. Because in that room, those folks clueless. They're clueless. And I like the fact that there is a weekly show to hold people accountable. So you can get outraged. And yeah, does it form outrage? Absolutely.

100%. That's part of the deal. But some of that outrage is warranted and it could actually bring about change. In all seriousness, instead of having these athletic directors and people who we, you know, don't necessarily believe are the most informed, why can't they have, you know, some of the top college football media people who we know are well aware of everything that goes on with all these schools and these teams and what have you? Like, why does it have to be these, you know, these athletic directors who we don't necessarily trust? It should never be an athletic director. I don't understand why they're, it should be, even though I lack faith.

college football media. It should be like 13 Ivan Maizel's. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Tim Kirchin. There is such a conflict of interest with an AD being in that room. This is such a transient business. There should not be a scenario where in this case it's Ivan Maisel.

There should not be a scenario where someone has to recuse themselves from a conversation. There is like you've known ADs. Very rarely do they stay at one school. They have they've all gone through some sort of climb. They've been at other schools. They all know each other. They all have relationships. When you're having an SEC

conversation, you can't have the chairperson getting daily calls from Greg Sanky because he's the athletic director at Arkansas. This is beyond stupid. Zaz, you know ADs? No. Well, you know about them. I mean, yeah, I know about, but I don't know those fools. You know about them. I know about them, but I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to conversate and hang out with ADs. Suffice to say. They don't, they're, they're not soup to nuts over there in their administrator role. They have a climb. They go to other schools. They get recruited over by headhunters and they put them in place over there. It's

asinine that you have athletic directors in this room. What keen insight would an athletic director have over, say, Desmond Howard? This is stupid. That's what I'm saying. I understand why Mark D'Antonio is in there. I understand why Chris Alt is in there. And by the way, why is an athletic director spending so much time watching other team's football games as opposed to paying attention to his athletic department? Like his job?

Yeah, that was another thing. I don't think they watch these games. That was, like, he made a whole big deal about the Saturday. Like, we watched the noon game, and we took a little break, and they skipped the SEC. They didn't sit there for the SEC championship. They went back

for the Big Ten title game. No wonder Alabama stayed where they're at. They didn't watch it together. What is this process? Who let him speak? Jeremy, you got the Mac Daddy offer for us? Well, I've been doing some research here into the protections on these picks and why the heat can't trade four first round picks they can only trade two. Right. And what this is is in 2027, the pick that they have going to the Hornets and the Terry Rosier, Kyle Lowry deal. Where Adam Silver's just sitting around.

Is there a lot of sham trade, by the way, sham trade. Okay, but even with the sham trade, this is where I'm at. Jeremy, you'll admit Adam Silver's sitting around doing another. Oh, it's garbage. It's garbage the way that this is being handled. But this is, I think it's Shams trade. This is the interesting part of what could happen. Is that a sham trade or a sham trade?

Steve Martin, too. The Hornets and the Heat could negotiate to unprotect that pick in 2027. So, officially, that pick would convey in 2027, and the heat could trade 26, 28, 30, and 32. No, that's not true. That is true. We can't trade back-to-back years. What did I just say? 26, 28, you just said.

But they're going to give 27. That would be back-to-back years. You can do that. I know that. We are in the week. That is embarrassing for you. If they convey, if they unprotect this pick in 27, the heat will be able to move. That's been the conversation

They won't be able to trade 28. So it may be the other way. It would be 27, 29, 31, 33 at a certain point. If they unprotect 27 and it's going to convey there no matter what, then the heat can trade 29 and 31.

There's a scenario here in which the heat would be able to trade four picks. Yeah. I'm a little confused. If Adam Silver gives the heat their pick back. Well, okay. Either way, what I was going toward is the Hornets, just like the ACC

commissioner need to do the right thing. The Hornets need to negotiate in good faith this time, not in bad faith, not like Dan Lebitard yesterday in his argument. They need to negotiate in good faith and help the heat get to a space where they can have more picks available, even if it's just a second round pick swap to be able to help them have the most draft capital possible. And if they do, you're offering essentially everything that's valuable in the cupboard except for Bama to buy. I'm getting worried about George Clooney. Because it feels like our air conditioning cut off here. Yeah, it's a little hot.

He has to be hot. He hasn't moved in a few minutes. Oh, okay. All right. How sweaty are you? Is it sweaty under there? Ask him on a scale of 1 to 10 how sweaty he is. I don't think he can hear me, Zaz.

You got to ask him. Yeah, ask him how sweaty he is. Yo, how sweaty are you? Scale of 1 to 10. Sweaty. Sweaty. He's spoken.