The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Chuckle F*** Joins The Show (feat. Chuckle F***)

Episode Date: November 26, 2025

"It doesn't determine who is right, it determines who is left." We're talkin' Turkey Time, The Kauff, and Australian butt plugs before Bob Wischusen joins the show to be berated by Mike Ryan over his obviously bought-and-paid-for-by-the-CFP call of the University of Miami game against Virginia Tech. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Black Friday football is at the center of it with the Chicago Bears taking on the Philadelphia Eagles at 3 p.m. Eastern. That's followed by the final night of the Emirates Cup NBA group play and a doubleheader starting with the Bucks and Knicks at 7 p.m. And the Mavericks and Lakers at 10 p.m. What a nightcap game that is. But the whole day starts with the return of the cap.

Capital One Skins game as four elite PGA golfers face off with $4 million on the line. Black Friday Game Day tees off with Capital One Skins game at 9 a.m. Eastern before the Big Bears Eagles game at 3 p.m. And it culminates with a double dose of Emirates NBA Cup action featuring Bucks at 7 p.m. and Mavs Lakers at 10 p.m. only on Prime. Is Craig Minervini a local legend? Ooh, he's been around a long time. Yes. Whoa. Yes.

That one's not even close. He's been around a long time. He might be first ballot. First ballot? He is the pre-and-post-game host for multiple teams in this market. NBC TV for a little while. And who can forget? Craig DeGeorge.

He was for a while as a wrestling announcer. He went by the pseudonym Craig DeGeorge. That's a great call by you. Tommy Tyg. Tommy Tyg. Yes. That was a swore of you didn't think I was going to go in that direction. He can confirm you threw trash at me that day. O.J. McDuffie.

Yes. Mr. Third Down. Yes. Mr. Quarterdeck and Davy. Once set the Dolphin record for receptions. Yes. Wait. He beat you for that title. I know. That is my quarterdeck right near the Panthers Arena, but I see. It got to the point where I'm not impressed by O.J. McDuffie anymore. I see him there so much. Did you have a ladder match to settle this?

Oh, there was a time, though. And every time I'd see him, I'd be like, hey, there's O'Jem McDuffie. But now it's just so regular. I mean, just, we fist bump. I produced Craig Minervini's radio show is my first job in local radio. I would call you for midday trivia. Many in the middays. Toast.

Yes. What? Well, yeah, he also worked on Paul and Ron for a long time. Zeta. Yeah. You're giving up, you're giving it up, though. I'm giving out like candy right now. I'm not comfortable with this.

You're being lenient right now. Scott Farrell. Do the right thing here, Zaz. Come on. No. What? Are you high? Miami?

Local legend? No. It was like not a long time that he was doing it down. Are you just playing the game? Am I likely to run into this person? No. Maybe. No.

Well, Tommy Tieg was unsurprising to me because I think that he was partners with Tommy Tig for a while. So Gary A-Barr. Why did you laugh? Right thing. Do the right thing. Why did you just laugh at Gary Abar as a local legend? No. What?

Again, what is wrong with you? They put sports writers in the Hall of Fame. You can't be a local legend. Nobody knows you are. No, they know who he is. He gets thanked at the end of every broadcast. Oh, please. Michelle Kaufman.

Oh, no. Man, you said been here for a long time. I know. I'm tougher and on my standards a little bit. I don't know about all that. Jessica Blaylock Yes Over Michelle Kaufman

Over Gary Abar I mean I love Jessica Do you know ball? This is not anti-Jessica Blaylock Gary A-Barr is as solid as a He's a saint Come on Michelle Kaufman Is this market for as

Ira Wenderman Well if you lose connection on the ISDN You're not calling Michelle Coffman We love Jessica around You're not calling Jessica Blaylock either I'm calling one person and one person only Maybe two I call Tree.

Where is the backup coupler Gary Abar? Andy Slater. Andy Slater. No. Woo. Medellian legend. Woo. Kelly Sacco.

No. Damian Amandola. Damian and Dallara. Yeah. Amandola. This is the Dan Levatore. show with the Stucats podcast. All right, it's turkey time, Greg.

Uh-oh. Gopo, gable. You know I never, never welcomed Dan Boney's ham. Competing main dishes need to scrim. A social miscue. Because my bird's me, Maximum, now I'm kicking off my shoes. I got to teach you, because baby, I'll be barefoot in the driveway, an open garage door by the bushes that I fell in before. sir turking off with my friend roy yeah baby talk turkey to me yeah baby

talk turkey to me gobble gobble happy Thanksgiving everyone happy thankgiving the mailing it in continues in a way that's embarrassing this is the most mailing it in a day of the entire calendar year. Put it on the poll at Lebitard show. Is today the most mailing it in day of the entire calendar year? I will say Jessica's joining us later in the show. She texted

me yesterday. This is embarrassing what a mean did with Weekend Observation. It's unbelievable what he did. She has an F1 minute and a Jess's internet minute for us later. She's not mailing it in. I've got my hand in the dirt as a punishment throughout the show. What kind of dirt you got there? I don't know, but somebody just asked me if

I had a Zen garden here. I was just asked... That my dad's gift from last year? It is... It's more sand than dirt, but this is what they got me, so... That's definitely so annoying. I've got my hand in the dirt. It's going to be hard to type.

It's going to be hard to do the show. More like hand on top of the series. What Amin did yesterday is wildly embarrassing. Miller Light should ask for a do-over. Miller Light, one of our best sponsors, should be offended that an employee of ours did something so lazy on mailing it in week. He should... Don't go that far with it.

No, he should offer a public apology. That's how far I should go because that was such a lack of effort. It truly honored Stugat's. Like it honored him in the most artistic of ways. I've got five football topics that I want to get to, including Dominic Foxworth saying the Colts have a quarterback problem. But I can't get to any of them because I need to know if Jonathan Zaslow believes that the sports brothers are local legends. Wow, what a poll. Say this one for video.

Good deep cut. No. Dos amigos. No? What do you laugh? I send a trend here with who Zaz thinks is Legends and aren't legends in the market. Fellow Ramirez.

Don't look at me. Look at me right now. Don't shake your head. Look at me right now. We're going to have a problem. Me and you. Just know that we started the show. It's been three minutes.

Don't do this. Fellow is a lot easier than Craig Minervini. Yes. Craig. Better. He's scared. He's just scared. He's playing scared.

He doesn't even know anything about fellow. I would jump through the entire glass. right here like a missile to go get him. I don't know that fool. What? He broadcasts into his 90s, I believe. Oh, the Marlins guy. Rest in peace. Falo. Jorge Sedano.

No. He abandoned us. He abandoned us. But Jessica Blaylock is. I love Jessica. Didn't abandon us. Sedano identifies now with L.A. That's not a local legend. The reason I bring all of this us is because Chuckle-F is going to join us.

And I yesterday proclaimed Bob with shoes in a local legend, and everyone yelled at me. I thought he was a local legend. He's a really good broadcaster. He's at the top of the game. He's doing some of the biggest events in sports. And he did a good chunk of his career here. Not a giant chunk. Probably what?

I'm going to say four years? That's a good chunk four years? It was a blip. It's incredibly small chunk. Did you not give any legendary status to any other people who had been? here four years? Because you gave a lot of leeway to people who've been here 20, so let me ask you.

Izzy Gutierrez, local legend, yes or no? Yes. Mark Hockman. No. I disagree. What is wrong with you? What's wrong with you? It was his birthday this week.

Give a shit. What? Whoa. Whoa. And happy birthday to him. I don't care Good luck

Ethan Skolnick Controversial What's controversial? Hawks a legend man What are we doing? I'm a legend but hawks not Hawks a legend A drive time legend

He can do whatever he wants With his legendary status Oh yeah I see your agenda No What's my agenda? Yeah you know At least you got the hand dirt today On top of the dirt

No No I'm shocked by the beefs that you are now soliciting throughout the sports world because of what it is that you're willing to do here. Ira Winderman. Yes. Hal Habib. Oh, that.

Why are you laughing? That tickles me. You can't. You can't. He was there for my dad's 50 yard field goal. Do you think a lot of people are tuning into the podcast today and being like, all right, not a good one today. Mail it is. Listen to Greg McElroy.

There are certain days I do for South Florida. This is the local hour, though. You know what you're getting into? If only there were local topics. Yeah, I'm sure we won't get to them. No, no, I have a bold new strategy. I'm sure most of our audience is really, really just so upset that we're not getting another day of being pissed off at the college football

playoff committee. Jeremy, we're talking about Gary Arbor. No, please. Legend or not. I have a bold new strategy. I already said no. Brian the Beast London. Now that's me talking.

You be careful. What do you mean? It's you talking. I love the beast. I'm going to say yes. Thank you. You say beast, everybody knows that is.

They do. A great nickname. Not Michelle Kaufman either. She needs a better nickname. Michelle Kaufman's... The cough. She doesn't... That's not that.

She doesn't have a good nickname. Here comes the cough. That is not a big name. Wait, I heard Michael Irvin. Would you have been... Coach of a bit O, too. Would have been career ending five years ago. The cough is a great nickname if you want to be remembered.

A terrible nickname if you want to be remembered fondly. I have been told here, I don't know what's true. and we will get to the local stories in a moment, but I've been told that Jonathan Zaslo, and he may have announced this at some point earlier in his career, but announced to his listeners on his podcast, The Zaslo Show 2.0. There's no thoughts, just Zaslo Show 2.0.

Drop the the whiff. The Zaslo Show 2.0 is something you can get wherever it is you get your podcast, and I was informed that yesterday you revealed, perhaps for the first time, but maybe for the first time for both our audience and the people in this room that there's only one circumstance

under which you block people. Oh, yeah. There is only one. Do any of you know what this is? There's only one thing that will make the affable and friendly Jonathan Zaslow, friend to all,

except for minorities who want local legendary status in the market. There's only one situation. And I don't believe in blocking people. And, well, except for this one thing you can do. Yeah.

None of you know If you send Zaslo any photos of spiders I don't even like my toes are curling now I'm telling I'm to don't play don't play a joke on me right now I'm telling you it's not gonna end well for anybody We would not do that for to you or around you We would not surround you in an assortment of spiders But I am just learning now South Florida not a great place for you

I'm so uncomfortable right now But South Florida not a great place for you We've got to lead. Oh my God, no, no. No, no, you've got to take it down. You've got to take it down. We've got to lead the country in weird, swampy creatures that are scary. We must have a ton of spiders in South Florida.

I don't know how we measure these things based on climate. But what would be America's leader in spiders? Any guesses? I hear Australia is really bad. No, but America's leader. Yeah, Australia spiders. They're the ones that'll kill you. Those are giant big ones.

that would terrify anybody. It rains spiders in Australia. You're never more than eight feet away from a spider. Put it on the poll at Lebitard show. Right now I am. Put it on the poll at Lebitard show. Does it rain spiders in Australia? And are you ever eight feet away, more than eight feet away from any spider in the world?

Yes or no. So this is legitimate. This is a fear for how long. Yeah. I'm telling you, like people don't send me pictures because it's not even negotiable. Like, I'll block you. And I don't want to block you, but I'll block you. And then I'll never unblock you.

and it's a whole thing. So just like, don't send me pictures. I'm telling you, it's not a joke. All right. We will continue to see if they get me more and more spiders here because his body language is. What a shit sir. Is this arachnophobia? Is that what it's called?

Nailed it, Dano. But are you, you're legitimate, like, does he now, have we diagnosed him with arachnophobia? Yeah, so it's super nice to just put a bunch of spiders. This is so you. We're wacky. Guys afraid of spiders. It's not, it's not a joke. I'm telling you, like, if someone brought in a spider here,

it doesn't matter if we're friends. Like, I punch my way out of here. We should have the thing where Ron brings the animals. It just brings mad spiders instead of animals. It ends with me punching my way out. I'm halfway through spitting chicklets. Stugat has called 911 on a frog. He was terrified and behaved that way around Ron McGill

when he came in with an assortment of spiders. Having just learned this, I will figure out what to do with it in coming days and weeks. Oh, you got to take it down. You got to take it down. You got to take the picture down. Look how many eyes it has? Yeah, it's a big one.

That's a big one. More eyes or legs? You think in Australia, they are as numb to their size spiders as we can be in this town because of the amount of spiders that we have in this town? Like, that they're numb to it the same way. A giant spider in a saloon. They open up their toilets. There's a crocodile in it.

They're grateful to see a spider. I believe that's a stereotype that probably would offend Australia. Every video that I've seen of a snake in a toilet comes from us. I understand. And they're venomous. Down under. There was one video that I was seeing where it was like a huge boa constrictor that collapsed a roof. And the guy's like, bab, it's breaks, then the brakes.

They say it just like that. Yeah, just like that. Them, then the brakes. Put it on the poll at Lebitard show. Are there crocodiles in the toilets in Australia, as we can. continue to stereotype these people. Chris, do you have anything more from the Thanksgiving file that we have to dump out here? Because I want to get to a bunch of things today, and I don't want to mail in today's show. So just do me the favor of getting me the useless sound montage,

getting me also Big Mac, because you have a Big Mac, another, this is like a weekly segment now where we go to Doc Master, Big Mac here, who lets everyone into the luxury else, and nobody gets past him unless Big Macs says you can get past him. What are Big Mac's thoughts this holiday season about the dolphins, I'm assuming? It's always the Dolphins. No, Dan, usually it's the Dolphins today. Hey, day before Thanksgiving, we're getting Big Max take on Thanksgiving. Big Max, take of the day.

Happy Thanksgiving. What do you think of Turkey? Turkey. No, I love turkey. I love turkey. I want turkey. I got turkey. I like ham. Yeah. And collard greens, mac and cheese, you already know. Big Macs, take of the day. Mailing it in the work of Chris Cody. I mean, turkey, ham, got collard greens, got mac and cheese. You already know right there. Yeah, Zazelot, this time at least you stayed for the duration of the interview as opposed to walking away.

I was walking with Chris yesterday. and he walked away from Mac and he was still talking. I had to, like, look back. Have you guys ever not done a stopping chat? You chat for 10 seconds. You keep it moving. Like, what am I supposed to sit there for 40 minutes? Whoa.

Just while you're taping content, you should take to the end of my thoughts. Oh, what does he got to say? I mean, he's in the best picture of the year, in my opinion. Bagonia. I have an update on the crocodiles and the Australian toilets. Per Google AI, per Google AI, they do not have crocodiles. dials and toilets. But when I went to Reddit Ask an Australian, there is someone who says that they have butt plug dispensers in most public toilets here in Australia. Just put one up your

butt. It'll stop them from calling in. They're biodegradable. So of course, what did I do after that? I googled Australian butt plug dispenser on our work computer. You're at work. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like that's real. Just a comment on Reddit Ask an Australian. Back to you, Dan. So you just broke into programming with a comment on Reddit that were butt plug No less real than any of the Google AI shit we've been telling you for the last year and a half. This sound right here is indeed real off of your NFL football. It's the useless sound montage. And I am told, I am told just in time for this time of year, they're built ram tough.

And I think you should fear them if you are anybody who plays football in the universe. And I'm told that Sean McVeigh is the star of the useless sound montage and a rising star in generally in providing useless, the most useless of sound. Gravy on a biscuit. I like that, Nick. Thought he was game. He always is. I asked him what week it was, and everybody said it doesn't matter. Everybody wants to talk about numbers and records. That doesn't mean. Our guys, they just keep showing up, man. You can be down 21-0 and you just keep playing.

Talk about resilience, toughness, staying together. Guys having each other's backs. Keep playing. Good credit to that team, man. They played hard through the kitchen sink at us. You're not going to come to Lambeau Field and win a game. It was like three yards in a cloud of dust. We talk about playing clean, and we really gave them two balls there. Get up. We were able to get it in there.

This team has fun, and good football is fun, and when you're doing it with good people that you don't want to let down, that's really fun. We'll get some reinforcements back at some point, but until then, we've got to hold down the fort. I thought a defense could have smiled in the face of adversity better. You know me, I kind of call plays for players. You get a hat on a hat, and he's going to find it. Pissed off.

We got a bad taste in our mouth the last two weeks, and we should be. He's not in the perfect shape. You don't play teams' records in this league. There's always improvements to be made by our players, and some you can see, some you can't see. Any number of plays could have changed the outcome of the game, and that's why we just got to live every down singularly. It wasn't perfect by any means, but it was, I would say, just enough. Golden, you can enjoy it for a couple hours, but really today's Wednesday in our world. This is the NFL, so this is what happens when you play a 17-game season.

There's no silver lining and losing. You always feel multiple emotions after a game, but winning is what matters. I'll take that win. It's a good win. Can't win the game in the first quarter? second, third, but you win the game in the fourth quarter, man. The one positive on that was the guys kept going, kept punching in. Let's stay humble, let's stay in the moment. Let's continue to lean into our preparation.

Donovan Jackson, I believe, also had an ankle on the foot. Ultimately, didn't do enough all three phases of win the game. We're not going to apologize for winning around here. It's tight when it's good on good, particularly when you're in a hostile environment. It's just like anything else. He's a fine wine. He's just getting better with age. Yeah, you like that one.

Everything we need to do is right in front of us, but we got a lot of work to do. I mean, this guy's going to the house, and he's got the juice to make it happen. A couple plays away from winning our game. We all know that humility is only a week or a day away. Well, the fight, I mean, it is what it is. We're, we don't, we want to, we don't appreciate losing. Yeah, I didn't know it's 30, but that's, but he, uh... I'll talk to you guys about next week, next week, I'm here to analyze what just transpired.

It did feel like quite a while, you know, I mean, I saw him drifting in the pocket. I'm like, get them, get them. Because if you can't make it on fourth down and one, man, oftentimes you don't deserve, to win. The only thing that would matter is if the season ended right now. What a job by Ethan. I thought Ethan did a great job on, though. Wait a second. I'm with that, actually. I like that a lot. Ethan edited that. I was about to compliment him on a job well done until that dismount where he inserted... He inserted himself. I was about to give him the rarest rarest of things around here. A genuine compliment for having a good ear for what sound is most

useless and why the sound is useless. He did a great job. McVeigh is a good press conference to rummage around. You'll find 40 things in every time that McVeigh talk. And Ethan, like McVeigh didn't say it the way Ethan said. You can hear how harsh the edits are here. It's a terrible edit. Like I was really going to

before the last part of that, okay, on mailing and day of the calendar, I was about to give an employee. Yes, right before Thanksgiving, I was about to give thanks for him learning. It took long enough. And his dog is shit in enough places around here for him to learn the musical notes required for useless to be most useless until he screwed it up at the end by using a shitty AI version

of Sean McVe thanking him for that edit what a job by Ethan I thought Ethan did a great job on though it was a bad edit like very harsh shit just asinine the way he tries to sneak into the show we've got to get a standard around here that gets protected it's the holidays and In the 50th anniversary of Miller Light, holidays are all about gathering around with family and friends, so why don't you bring out a cornucopia of that beautiful white can Miller Light or draft? Whatever it is. You know it's going to be a special time when you bring out Miller Light

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That's followed by the final night of the Emirates Cup NBA group play and a doubleheader, starting with the Bucks and Knicks at 7 p.m. And the Mavericks and Lakers at 10 p.m. What a nightcap game that is. But the whole day starts with the return of the Capital One Skins game as four elite PGA golfers face off with $4 million on the line. Black Friday game day tees off with Capital One Skins game at 9 a.m. Eastern before the Big Bears Eagles game at 3 p.m. And it culminates with a double dose of Emirates NBA Cup action, featuring Bucks at 7 p.m.

And Mavs Lakers at 10 p.m. Only on Prime. On Fox 1, you can stream your favorite live sports, so you're there for the biggest moments as they happen. For me, I cannot deal with spoilers, so I need to see it live, especially on college football Saturdays and NFL Sundays. With Fox 1, you get it all. NASCAR, the MLB postseason, edge of your seat plays, jaw-dropping moments, and that rush

like you're right there in the action. Sports are meant to be watched live, and you can do that with Fox 1. Fox 1, we live for live, streaming now. Don Lebertard. I've never stepped foot on that campus. If you told me right now, your life doesn't. depends on it. Go to Santa Fe University and just just take a picture. Stugats. I would die. I don't know where it is. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats.

Zazlo is legitimately uncomfortable. I didn't actually realize. I have so much anxiety. I didn't even realize. I didn't realize that he's not doing a bit that he has diagnosable anacrophobia. So. Arachna. Arachnophobia. Damien. I know what that is. I'm sorry to him. I'm sorry too, Zaslow and Damien Amandola. The thing that I wanted to talk about with last night's wet sock comes out and explains why Miami is now ahead of Utah, why Miami is number 12, more than any of the minutiae involved with the stupidity of this month-long argument, which is just the way to sell college football in the middle of the week on a Wednesday if you don't want to be talking about what Eastern Michigan and Western Michigan were doing last night. the polls have Miami at 12 they have jumped Utah now and now because they're making it up as they go along they're saying that Miami and Notre Dame is indeed in a tier where they can be discussed with each other same tier but the stupidity of yesterday was this to me after installing this wet sock to be the public face and voice of these stupid explanations replacing the previous less West let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's wet sock that was the voice for this. They clearly gave this overmatched person whose name I will not care to remember because of what a hood ornament he is on this stupidity. They clearly gave him

the coaching of make a six-seven joke. Make a six-seven joke. Yeah, you'll kill him. Look, just get in there and you'll be really on the cutting edge. You'll reach the children if you make a six-seven jokes. So here he is. They've given him the coaching. Look how poorly this car salesman does this. But there was a change at 6-7 with Oregon and Old Miss

swapping spots. How much of an impact potentially could it be on Ole Miss if it's determined they don't have their head coach in the field? 6-7. But seriously, Rich, we didn't have any discussion. Hold on. Bring

that back. I want everyone to watch this with me and just look across his face. He asked me the successful question. I'm ready for this. They coached me up on this. I got the producers. Watch his face. It streaks across his face. This is where I get to make the big joke that killed and show them that I'm a less wet sock than they think I am. But there was a change at 6-7 with Oregon and Old Miss swapping spots. How much of it impact potentially could it be on Ole Miss if it's determined they don't have their head coach in the field. Six, seven. But seriously, Rich, we didn't have any discussion.

He laid out for Reese Davis to laugh. He called him Rich Davis. Rich Davis. He called him Rich. Yeah. You can catch that? Listen to the whole. No, I was too stunned with what was taking place.

It was after, but seriously, like any great comic. Watch, guys, watch his face. The smirk. He's got so much time to deliver. deliver this and he knows it and he's like this is the pitch I've been waiting for since they installed me as the puppet in this position to make these dumbass arguments every week but there was a change at six seven with Oregon and old miss swapping spots how much of it impact potentially could it be on old miss if it's determined they don't have their head coach in the

field six seven but seriously rich we didn't have we didn't have have any discussion. Holy shit. They coached him up on 6-7 and the butt seriously, but he blew it on the rich. He was almost there. He almost got to the finish line. You think he was almost there?

Yeah, the flawless execution to that point. Well, he thought he did. Look, he had time to prep for that. Dan, that's why you work smaller clubs before you really hit the big venues to do your hour so you can kind of fix those kinks. Throw him right into a stadium show.

I don't think he was coached. I really don't. I think that this is a guy who either has a kid, a nephew, somebody who he's seen do the six seven jokes all the time and when he when he hears rich specifically say six seven it puts him in a position where he goes hmm i bet i can make a joke here that's why the long pause because he's waiting to see whether or not it landed and then he's so nervous that that's why he calls him rich that's disagrees no you're so you're so off base here jeremy's you

you did the same thing why did i do the same thing when you killed the six seven james joke? Six, seven. Oh my God. I think by, I think by the way, I think Reese Davis was set up to say that's what I mean. Nobody says, why would you say there was a change six, seven? Nobody talks like that. Reese was trying to go viral. Right. You would say there was a change with a six and seven spots. That's what you would say. You don't say there's a change six, seven. So I, I think a wet sock was told, hey, we're going to make a joke here and we're going to pass it along to Reese Davis, so he's going to tee you up on your job. Wet Sok is a great insult for someone who lacks charisma.

Jeremy, I am a little stunned after Zaslo came after Tony, the way that he did yesterday with your high, you're out to lunch. I played myself. You played yourself. Which I took offense to, by the way. Yes, Adam Silver doing nothing. Ben Stiller, you're a fool. Ben Stiller looking like a fool.

He just hit Jeremy. me with you're embarrassing yourself. I'm sorry, I mean to be mean, but somebody had to say it. You take back the embarrassing yourself? No. So why are you apologizing? Why are you saying I'm sorry? Because it was mean. Okay, but you had to say it. I'm used to it. Yeah, I had to say

the mean thing, and I apologize for saying the mean thing. You're making yourself look like a fool. Zaslo is brave. Zaslo is, he's the only one in the country I've heard with this take and he's doing it strongly and let's get the graphic we now have for Zaslo because Zaslo had a big victory yesterday. The

fact, Tony, you're shaking your head. No, he didn't. No, yes, the Carolina Panthers. No, look, you get the same suspension in football. If you spit on a dude's face, as you do if you punch him in the groin with a cast, on behalf of Zazlo and

General Decorum, the NFL did the proper thing and suspended a criminal who should be charged with felonious crimes. This is so like the fact that people who like punching in football are at zero, that's not true. For weeks, we ran up the score.

We get a 500 to 1. Most recently this week, if we started the scoring on Monday night. I'm not starting the scoring right now. That was last week. Zaslo's up 1-0 today. The NFL has turned a blind eye to an epidemic in their sports

and finally, finally. So the- Finally, you got a point. The account starts now because this is precedent. Let's see what happens now moving forward. This is a precedent that has finally been set. It has been acknowledged. And that is when the ball is 10 yards away, you don't just get to punch people. That player has now been suspended. All right. I agree with you, but that's not your argument. Your argument is you shouldn't be able to punch the football. No, no, that's my beat with you. That's not my argument. I've specifically said that is not, that I am okay. If you

punch the football- They've been suspending people for punches all the time. If you punch, no, but that's because after the play. If you punch the football, that's fine. But if you punch the football and miss, that's not allowed. That's what I've been saying, Tony. So punch at your own discretion. Chris Canty's on with Kevin Clark. A game suspension is a serious thing in the NFL. If they give you one 17th of the paychecks, they're taking away. You saw Jamar Chase went from lying in the locker room to I'm so sorry and wrong. I'm so very wrong that I spit in Jalen Ramsey's face. These are now equivalent crimes, and this is a victory for Zaslo. Zaslo, seeing this punish this way, wait a minute, you guys are going to both shake your

heads at this? Yes, 100%, because I get what he's saying, but that's more closer to punching after the play than an actual punching of a football, because that was not a football play. The ball was behind him. He wasn't going for the ball. He was just clearly trying to get even with Joanne Jennings or get one up on Joanne Jennings. That happened a couple weeks ago where there was a guy, I think, for the 49ers or for the bucks, that threw a jab at somebody, and I think it like hit an official, and he got to spend

for a game. finally putting an end to this. All right, Zaslo may indeed be afraid of spiders, but he's showing real bravery here. Real bravery. Not brave, please. I also thought Mike Ryan was brave yesterday in terms of spewing U.M. propaganda

everywhere, and in his righteous rage, taking out shit stirring Joey Galloway, who he called out by name, Bob Wushusin, who I said is a local legend, and you guys disputed that he's a local legend. I'm saying that this man is a local legend. You guys called him chuckle-

And then you accused Lou Riddick of being his co-conspirator. So Mike, the whole thing is yours here. You think I'm afraid to tell chuckle-fitting to his face what he did? Chuckle-Fi-Nows. All right. He knows what he did? I texted Chuckle-Fi-Fi as a broadcast was going on. Hey, chuckle-f-f***, what are we doing over here?

And then, Lou Riddick, with the nerve, the temerity, to go to social media afterwards and say, oh, no, guys, I think head-to-head should matter. Well, it would have been nice to hear that on the broadcast as you carried water. How did those microphones survive with all the water you were spilling? Caring in the CFP. What were you doing out there? His nostrils are flaring. He seems enraged.

He doesn't think this is funny as you. Hello, Chuckle. As you do. Hello, Bob. I'm sorry, Mr. Fibre. I believe you're the voice of hockey. You know how much I respect and admire you. I've had a beer with your face on it.

And you know, I love you, Bob. But that was bad what you did over the weekend. You need to make it right. You know, you know, I could have, I heard everything you said before that. Yep. Like I heard the whole lead in, not just that part of the lead in. Yeah. So brave.

Good. I mean, I'm courageous. What do you want me to say? It's one of my strong suits. Everyone's, you know, wow. By the way, I don't know who's in charge of fawning the show. Have I been founted correctly? I can't see.

I'd like the full nickname because the nickname is just, it's a chef's kiss. It really encapsulates me, I think. So I'd like that on there. I've never thought of you. as chuckle-fuck, you are a serious person who can do levity but really respects the craft. So when he accuses you of chuckle-hickery, I'm a little bit surprised because I find you to be, you know, a standard bearer for your industry. I appreciate you saying that.

I mean, I've known you for like 30 years, and I've known a lot of these guys on this show through our mutual love of hockey for a while. This was the first time I've been asked on this show, and it's to let Mike Ryan yell at me. So I'm not really sure that that's nice. Usually happens. But I'm willing, you can yell at me. No, but no, but what would be your rebuttal to what he's saying? As someone who was in this market, working in this market for how many years, Bob?

About three and a half. Okay, and during that time, during that time, that's why Zaslow will not call you a local legend. And he's right. He says it's not long enough. Yeah, New York legend. Yes. I don't care about New York. But during that time, you saw enough, I think, of what happens around the University of Miami to at least think that what he's accused.

you up there? You've heard it before in this market. Local broadcaster who goes up to national fame does the UM game is now chuckling at UM scenario when UM's about to get bleeped by these wet socks who run the NCAA. Yeah, like my answer to all of this is it's not my system. We're just reacting to the system as the system is. So like we could do a broadcast where we yell and scream for three hours about how Miami's getting screwed. Yes. And it would be like a South Florida sports radio broadcast. We could take calls. Yeah.

Maybe after a play. I like that. Do you want to come on and talk about how Miami is getting screwed? Like, yes. We could do that. Yeah. I mean, it's only right since you guys were off the other end, on the opposite end of the spectrum. No, we were. Yes, you were. We put up

a full screen comparing Miami and Notre Dame and their resumes. We talked about the fact that Miami beat Notre Dame head-to-head. But we also lived in the world that we had to live in on Saturday, which was. And this is, again, it's not my system. I don't agree with the system. I wouldn't have this system.

But the system is they have to be in this like three-team pod with Notre Dame to be discussed. Right. To have the head-to-head take into account. Okay. How do they get into that three-team pod with Notre Dame? They're in the pod now. They only, the only mechanism they have. have to get into that discussion with Notre Dame is to rack up style points and win convincingly.

And they're playing a team that's below 500 that fired their coach three weeks into the season because they got drilled at home by Old Dominion, and now they're only winning by 10 in the fourth quarter. Okay. Like, they needed to win that game very impressively to move up. We wanted them to win the game impressively, so they would move up to be in a pod with Notre Dame. I hear you, but it doesn't seem to matter when Notre Dame is up 10,000. seven on NC State or just up two points against BC who has one win. I didn't do those games.

I understand, Bob. Bob, you're doing great right now. And I agree with everything that you're saying. But according to the CFP, they did get moved up to the same tier. They were directly compared. And the CFP has just decided this year they're not going to count head to head as a primary tiebreaker. This is wrong.

It's an assault on football. I agree with that. But the way it was explained to me was it's a three-team pod. And they were like four or five teams separate. Right? So you couldn't, like the head of the CFP himself said, if they get into that, like, kind of three-team pod discussion, then we will take the head-to-head much more into account, which believe me, to me, is ridiculous. Yes, if they beat Notre Dame, I would think that they would be ranked ahead of Notre Dame. And I think it's ridiculous to say it was the first game of the season. Those games don't count. I like this. You feel attacked. I'm 100% on board with that. The other thing, and we talked to Mario Cristobal about this, what is. the message that the committee is sending to a team like Miami, who schedules Notre Dame, who schedules Florida, who schedules USF, who's turned into a ranked team.

Like, why not play four Bethune Cookmans and just warm up for your conference season if you're not going to get credit? Well, you don't get credit for those wins just because they're at the start of the season. I'm with all of that. But this is my talk show host coming out in me. Oh, I miss him. That's why you're a local legend. Sir, sir, sir, sir, I dare say.

I dare say, and this is a compliment, though it may sound like an insult, that Bob Waschusen was better at sports radio that he is at even play-by-day. He's the best hockey play-by-play guy. This is no slight on his play-by-play. You just watch it on mute. No, I'm telling you guys don't know Young Waschusen as a sports radio host. The arguments that this man would make that he now mutes on television on behalf of the public of snowflakes that doesn't want opinions with their play-by-play guy.

Bob, yes or no, Bob, if you had to. chosen that is the path, you would have been better for, if you'd done 30 years of that instead of play-by-play, you would have been better as a sports radio talk show host than you are at play-by-play. I mean, I like yelling at people. I enjoy that. And you're annoyed. You came in spicy. Like, you came in spicy. I mean, I do have to. I mean, we yelled at him. Yeah. I mean, Bob's like, all right, Mike, we're friendly, but we're not that friendly. Yeah. We're friendly enough to me, again, I should be funted right now with the nickname. Like, to me, the nickname is It encapsulates me.

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This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. I love the Chumhattar. So far during this conversation, Bob has complained that we haven't had him on, even though we've known him for as long as the show has been on. And also that chuckle-fitting is sort of the opposite of what his public persona is. Like what you're doing there is disrespectful, saying that he's on the broadcast, not treating it professionally because he doesn't agree with your opinion. Whoa, no, he was doing a great job for the CFP.

I think the CFP gave him A-pluses across the board. He did great. They went in with an established narrative, and he and Lou hammered it home. Miami's got to win this game at Blacksburg by more points than they've ever won in this town because every time in my adult life, I'm thrilled to win a game in that town by three scores, but I can't enjoy the game

because I'm like, we got to put up 50 on them. They're 3 and 7. Mike, Mario Cristobal knew he had to win that game by more. Yeah. It was 25 seconds to go on the game and his starting quarterback throwing passes on fourth down into the end zone to his best

wide receiver. I've heard that, but it was also, it was a big fourth and two play, and they needed to get that first down to seal the game and they just decided to throw it into the end zone that that checked two boxes for them but everyone's like they called the time out just to run it up like they were also trying to salt that game away Virginia Tech gets the ball back and they don't get that four down they were up 10 with 25 seconds to go hey that's plenty of time they were they were that beamer ball you not familiar they got an outside kick earlier game's still in the balance Bob but but I hear you and I understand the my lament is why did the Notre Dame score 70

Well, I mean, I mean, they're throwing a lacrosse player out there in a quarterback. Do you think Marcus Freeman wants to run out to midfield and shake Fran Brown's hand after scoring 70 points on them? No. Like, what do you think he's saying at midfield? Man, I'm sorry. It's just like this is the system. It's not my system. We had to do this.

I apologize. Right? Oh, nice fun. See, that's exactly what it ought to be. And you and I are in agreement that it's not right, that everyone's going into these games, thinking that they have to beat the opposition by a certain amount of points in order to keep up when the most, the most obvious of tiebreakers is staring everybody in the face, and that's bypass. We're talking more about quality losses than head-to-head matchups.

It's crazy, Bob, and I'm so glad that you're on my page now, and we can go ahead and correct this on the broadcast on Saturday, and we can let the people know. Your voice matters, Mr. Chuckle. Yeah, my voice does not matter a lick. I'm not a South Florida legend, and the name fits. And, yeah, like, to me, again, our job is to document the game. our job is to document that event in, like, the parameters of what is going on in the event, which is that the committee has said, this is what Miami has to do, clearly through their actions.

Because, you know, you do not get credit for ACC wins. You get penalized more for ACC losses. Just look at the ratings for the ACC teams, right? Like this league, it is what it is, right? They're just not respected the way the other three power four leagues are. But the way that you're doing this, Bob, the sports radio host in you, okay? If we're going to make this about merit, not judging scorecards, this isn't gymnastics, this isn't boxing, okay? It's not supposed to be judges, even though we've been doing it this way for a long time.

The stupidity and how it is that we're doing this, when you're simply telling me out loud as a national voice for these things, I understand the ACC's not respected as a conference, but no one seems to be saying in your position, and the SEC is shit as a conference this year. It just happens to have a reputation that makes it feel like those teams are better than Louisville and SMU when they're not. They're just in different uniforms. And again, that's an opinion, right? And that's not the opinion of the committee, right? So, yeah, I mean, do I think that the teams in the ACC, because I've covered them most of the year, are better than they're given credit for?

Yeah, I do. But, again, you know, we can only live when we're documenting the game in the world that the committee. many tells us is, you know, the parameters. Well, no, Mike's asking you as a Miami legend to fight the power. I'm asking you to change the world, Bob. He's asking you and your co-conspirator. He's asking you and Lou Riddick to change the world. It's time to take sides, Bob, and people who sit out, these side-taking time, they're on

a side. They're on the wrong side. This is war. War doesn't determine who is right. It determines who is left. And if there's anybody that can move that needle, clearly, it is South Florida media legend chuckle. Thank you. You get it now. This guy gets it.

Okay. You just admitted something, though, that I was surprised by in all of your professionalism. You said out loud, I was rooting for Miami to win big. Because I think to get them into that pot of teams with Notre Dame, so they get the credit for that head-to-head win, which again, I don't agree with that system. That is the system. That's why we were, we talked to Mayor of Christopold during the week. he acknowledged that they needed to win these games and win them impressively. He even said that at the end of the Syracuse and NC State games, he was thinking, you know, what am I supposed to do? Am I not supposed to put my threes out there when we're up 41 to nothing or 38 to 3?

And then Syracuse scores a touchdown or NC State scores a touchdown against my third stringers. And now we only won 38 to 10. we didn't win 38 to nothing we only went 41 to 7 so he even acknowledged the world that he was living in and what he thought he had to do on Saturday and that's why he threw the ball in the end zone on a meaningless play at the end of the game are a lot of people are a lot of people accusing you of anti-miamiami bias or just Mike Ryan saying that you and your co-conspirator Lou I didn't invent chuckle that was created by the Keynes community online love the canes community Okay, I don't believe you. Yeah, I don't believe him. He was very clearly rooting for Virginia Tech. I mean, he's coming here.

Oh, God. You are. Now we are your local show hour where you're going to go to Jose and Hyaliyah next. And he can pile on about the fucking out. He was a good call. He's got good takes, he's got good takes. He's got good takes. What do you mean by that?

Like you weren't cunning it up with James Franklin from Blacksburg for three quarters. That was ridiculous. I saw you pat him on the shoulder. Yeah, you liked him. Yeah, that was excessive, letting James Franklin do that use car salesman thing for a quarter and a half of your broadcast. You know what you do next game? You bring up Alex Mirabal from the sidelines and you just talk about the trenches and how we dominate the line of scrimmage. Deal.

I feel like this is working, guys. We're doing this for the 12th best team in the country. All right, so, Bob, do you have any UM games left? Do you want to make any requests? Is that Pittsburgh, I think. Do you have yours? Okay, so you want to give him anything, any request so that he can, so that you want to get your proper. in the mainstream, and he is telling you that he is trying to do things according to the system.

What kind of anarchy would you like to request? I have a whole process. Anytime ACC people, broadcast people are in town, we whine, we dine, we take them out to a steakhouse. We'll add two to the resi. I have Gorby, add two more. We'll get you at the steak table, and we'll work him. We'll just lay out a couple of, like, practical arguments such as head-to-head. And then, whether you know it or not, you've just been sweet-talked into carrying out our propaganda.

This shit works. Do those practical arguments include the two unranked losses in the last six weeks, or do they not? SMU is actually ranked now, pal. Check your notes. The only team in the top 17 where that's the case. Check your notes. I feel like SMU is a good team. Yeah, they are.

What needs to happen? Bob, like for two. They are. They were a CEP team. Stan, no one has gone. No one has gone. I'm talking to jack shit. I'd rather talk to chuckle fuck.

No one has gone into that stadium in ACC play and come out with a dump. Because the ACC stinks. No, it doesn't. It doesn't stink. It doesn't. You stink. FSU beat Alabama. That's what I saw. You know what? That's great. You stink. For the guy who doesn't have a lot of day. You stink. All right. All right. Enough. Make that a t-shirt, please. The ACC doesn't stink. You stink. I think we can sell many of those t-shirts. So did we. I'm just glad you're level-headed about this. Bob Wichuzin is being a voice of reason here. He, I... Yeah, now. Now. Look, Bob, I don't know if you qualify for whatever the haughty standard of journalist would be, but you're aspiring to a higher standard

of broadcasts. So did we! You're aspiring to objectivity, correct? Obviously, Mike Ryan's playing this right down the middle. Like, clearly, he is Switzerland in this argument. But on Saturday, now, if the Keynes went on Saturday, that's four ranked wins, because

Pitts ranks again. We all know what they're doing. We all know what they're doing by putting Pittsburgh at the bottom of that. They're just doing this so that they can continue to jump Utah. I mean, it's ridiculous. The bias against the Big 12. It's unbelievable what they're doing. Okay. That's what you sound like, you fool. Yep, that's unnecessary. Jeremy. You're going to let him talk to Bob that way. I'm not going to let him talk to Bob that way. That was

really rude to our guest. Sorry, Chuck. You fool? Six. Seven. All right. Let's play this for Bob with Susan. And let's have him break down here. What happened here? Because I'm maintaining that this wet sock was given production help before the show. Doesn't know how to sell what he's selling because they just threw him into a position he's overmatched for. he sees that Reese Davis is asking him a question and the smile comes across his face because he's like,

I've got a pop culture joke that's going to kill. And then he gets Reese Davis's name wrong because he's a fool. But there was a change at 6-7 with Oregon and Ole Miss swapping spots. How much of it impact potentially could it be on Ole Miss if it's determined they don't have their head coach in the field? six seven but seriously rich we didn't have any discussion oh my god but seriously rich

oh my god that's a good chuckle that's me I'm living up to my nickname what break that down for us tell us straight what happened yeah what was your favorite part of that well I mean Reese almost

like or rich almost laughed uncomfortably is if he didn't know that was coming. You'd have to think he would have been in on the joke, right? Like he's giving him, he's doing this and then he's supposed to spike it away, right? I would have thought he would have, he almost seemed surprised that he went there.

No, he was surprised at how poorly it came out. That might be true. Yeah, one of those people is good at television and the other person shouldn't be on television. They were trying to do the comedy stylings of how do we sell this made-for-TV thing to America. I know, I've got a six-seven joke. I love that we're giving this guy, like, an opportunity that this could have been cool.

Like, there's just zero. Like, you guys are like, if he said it, no. It was going to be awkward and weird no matter what. Not with that pattern on that blazer. What is the fairest thing to say when you're critiquing the fact that we are playing college football games violently and not actually doing this based on merit? We're doing it on some sort of formula that's subjective and meant to create argument. as part of a month-long build-up to what the playoffs have become, which is the second biggest professional sport in America.

When has it not been that way? In college football, this is always what it's been. It's always been a subjective argument, right? It's not objective. I mean, if it was objective, the Miami wouldn't have to throw a touchdown pass with 12 seconds to go in a game that's over. So, yeah, I mean, the idea of getting to 12 teams,

and ultimately 16, I think we all know we're going there, is that once you get at least 12 to 16 teams in the argument, you've maybe hit critical masks. No, trust me. I thought 12 wouldn't do the 17. You hit critical mass where you've got, at least you know you got the seven or eight best teams in there and maybe that's supposed to say,

yes, we've got a true national champion and we decided it on the field. Like that, right? I mean, that's like the NCAA basketball tournament. We argue for a minute about the bubble teams, but then when that argument's over, we kind of forget about the bubble teams because there are 68 teams in the tournament.

I don't know how many college football teams, you'd have to get in, where the bubble teams would really no longer be relevant past that one argument? Maybe, obviously, I don't think 12 is it. Maybe we have to get to 16, but that's the idea of this, that there will be objectivity once we get to the playoff, because now all you have to do is win. You broadcast everything, but when I say you associate yourself most, which sport, top of the food chain for you? I guess it depends on who, I mean, in the New York, I'm certainly associated with the Jets. I've been doing that for 24 years. On ESPN, it's probably 50-50 at this

point. I mean, the hockey community seems to have learned who I am. The reason I bring it up is someone... He's being modest, Dan, like Babu Shuz and on the internet, is considered the best guy going on hockey. Okay, so this is the reason that I brought it up. I thought he was going to answer hockey. I was lobbying it to him. He and I have the same chemistry as Rich and the Wet Sox. But the reason I wanted to go here with him is because as someone who had three and a half years in this market, please give me the historical context for what you're witnessing from these Panthers. Because to have that be the organizational stability that flogs both countries in that sport, I'm still stupefied by it.

It's amazing. You know, and it's awesome. I mean, I was at Panthers opening night, like the opening night in 1993. So saw it from its very beginnings. We're all in this hockey chat. I've told the guys on the hockey chat, one of the things I think is most awesome is I got a bunch of guys texting me who have like Hispanic last names who are natives of South Florida who are diehard Panthers fans. Like that's proof that hockey is a product is great no matter where you take it on who you show it to, be exposed to it and you're going to see what a great game it is. But the fact that these guys are all diehard hockey fans, I think is amazing.

I mean, I remember the days where you went into Blockbuster Video and, like, there was a John Van Bsbrook tape that would go along with your rental where you could take it home, and it would be like, here are the rules to hockey. This is icing. This is off sides. Like, you know, like the first scene in Slapshot. And now, I mean, hockey's just baked into South Florida as it is anywhere. You know about that two-line pass, Dan? You know about that Blockbuster? Three-line pass.

Imagine how good Pavel Burray would be in today's day. Chris Cody, why were you laughing throughout? Bob Wershusen's talking. No, because he mentioned the Hispanic names, and Mike just started rattling them off behind me. Jose Lassow. Chase Romero. I didn't like the spice in Wachuzan's voice when he took out Jose from Hyalea.

I didn't like that too. He's a dependable caller. I didn't like that. He's a good caller. A play out for you? Play on for you. You should be the decider of this. Yeah, for sure.

How about you, Zaz? What do you think? See you later. You hate minorities? I would have went with Hector. Yeah. See you later, Wushin. Good talking to you.

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