The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Could Greg Be Walton Goggins?

Episode Date: February 25, 2025

Our Cesta Cyclones picked up a huge comeback win yesterday, but Billy has some criticism of the Cyclones' management to kick off the show. Jess is still trying to watch every Best Picture nominee befo...re Sunday's Oscars, but Greg thinks there are too many nominees. He also believes he could be an actor in a Best Picture nominee with one month of practice. Could he hit a 100 mph fastball? Probably not. Could he take a carry in an NFL game? He'd probably lose three yards. But could he be as good as Walton Goggins? Maybe! Then, the Miami Heat are playing as badly as we've seen them, and our show is over them. Mike Ryan is ready to take another victory lap about Terry Rozier, but is it worth talking about? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:34 Shadow Show. Shadow in it. Shadow in it. We've made a lot of good memories over the years at Highly. Most recently, Greg Cody coughing until he passed out there on the floor, scaring everybody. But I've never before heard in our offices somebody questioning cyclones management.
Starting point is 00:00:56 It's happened a lot. Yeah, quite frequently. Yeah, usually from the same source. It's the first time- One particular person won't shut up about it. It's the first time I'm hearing criticism of cyclones management and Billy you mentioned well who's in charge over there and it's Chris Cody's face that's on the giant billboard that suggests he's the owner of the cyclones
Starting point is 00:01:16 although Mike kind of acts like the owner of the cyclones. He was dressed at the last Highly event. He was dressed. He was dressed in some shit, huh? He was dressed in peach. That's just what he does. He tells partial stories and then the audience is like, whoa, that's crazy behavior. There's context missing, important context. So feel free to offer it. So Mike came in and he said something like, it's a good time to be a cyclone.
Starting point is 00:01:39 And I said, yeah, I guess they played yesterday. You can go to Friday games or you can bet on Tuesday games. It's a whole Monday game. You always leave Cyclone's games with money. Every time I leave a, every time I've been to a Cyclone game on a Friday, I leave with actual American cash in my hand. It's the wildest thing.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Can't sell it better than that. I don't exactly understand the grift. And it's like 80 bucks too. Dude, it's like real money. Like actual- I want some money there too. Yeah, it's crazy 80 bucks too. It's like real money. I want some money there too. Yeah, it's crazy. And if you kind of like, I'm not gonna tell people my secrets
Starting point is 00:02:09 because I wanna keep leaving with the money. But like, if you coordinate with people, you can guarantee money leaving out there. It's great. Anyways, the point is this. Mike was saying it was a great day to be a Cyclones fan, whatever. And I said, how's the season going?
Starting point is 00:02:24 Who's on the team? And they're like, oh, and it's the same to be a Cyclones fan, whatever, and I said, how's the season going? Who's on the team? And they're like, oh, and it's the same names. And I was like, guys, I kind of feel like it's time to shake things up and start with a clean slate, because every year we're hearing the same names on the Cyclones, and it's been damn near four years since we've brought our four seasons, whatever, since the Cones have come back home hoisting
Starting point is 00:02:42 the Commissioner's Cup of Highlight, the Ray Lewis Cup, or whatever it's called. A lot of banners up there now between ours. Like ours was the first one and now it's just a bunch of But every year there's a draft and every year it's the same exact team with like one different person it seems. So I was saying, I feel like, and I haven't checked out
Starting point is 00:02:58 the squad yet this year. You were questioning management. I was questioning the draft technique and then I was questioning, well, who's actually in charge? Because based on how the team is doing is who's in charge, is what I've learned. What I learned is that one time the draft was conducted by Fuentes, which suggests no one's in charge.
Starting point is 00:03:15 That's exactly right. Like he was out there. They handed out varsity jackets one year to all of their players like a season ago or something, right? Bomber jackets. Okay, bomber jackets. Another inaccuracy. A season ago. something, right? It was bomber jackets. Okay, bomber jackets. Another inaccuracy. A season ago.
Starting point is 00:03:26 And then Fuentes is attending the draft. He's a member of the front office. Did he or did he not give a speech draft night one year? He did. Okay, so he never made a pick. Like, God, we would never like that. He was acting as though he was making the picks. He's a part of the think tank.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Mike's face is there, or Chris's face is still on the wall. Mike was there dressed to the nines last Friday doing interviews with all of the media. A peach suit? Yeah. A peach suit, guava, another inaccuracy. Fuentes is head of scouting. I don't know what the issue.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Okay, so if he's head of scouting, then he is the one that's to blame for the roster. What is to blame? All right, we're a top two team in Battlecore right now. What are we doing? But how far into the year are we? We have a game in hand. We're six matches in.
Starting point is 00:04:09 It's also hard to rebuild in the draft if you win because you're punished for winning. But they don't win. Yeah, we've done plenty of losing. No. They don't win. That's the thing. Well, you won the one time.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Right. And now you suck. We were runners up two seasons ago. They're second. And that's the worst spot to draft again. So you had to draft second to last. There you go. It's a tough one.
Starting point is 00:04:24 And look, we went into this draft. Out of four teams. Looking to reshape the roster. 16. We only added one new face. Ikeda came back, he was away for a season, but we added Iñaki, who was a former Division I player, he's now in Division II.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Division I what? A front quarter. Highlight? Yeah, yeah. Where do they play college highlight? No, no, it's not college, it's his ranking. You don't know Palota. You question management, but you don't know Palota.
Starting point is 00:04:49 They're right about that. I'm just saying, look, everybody's talking about this Manu and how great he is every season. It's the world's best back quarter. OK, well, you don't bring home anything. Maybe you trade Manu. Is he still around? And you load up on picks.
Starting point is 00:05:00 You know what I mean? That all works. Or you get a bunch of players. Guys, you are in charge of this league. This league needs you. You make get a bunch of players. Guys, you are in charge of this league. This league needs you. You make your own rules. Slippery Savin's in charge of this league. We are top two in the league.
Starting point is 00:05:11 What is happening? Out of four teams. Six. More inaccuracies. I don't blame them for blaming management, though, because you guys came out strong, and you won the championship immediately. And since then, it's just been a lot of division fighting
Starting point is 00:05:27 and sending Fuentes out there. To take a block. No there's. Don't tell me there's only one division. Your D's had the trophy, Uli Monster's had the trophy, everyone's been walking around. Ray Lewis has had the trophy,
Starting point is 00:05:37 I feel like Pitbull was there, then he wasn't there. I saw management weekend because Highly is pushing Mike around because the Tony tonight from Highly has not run yet And I saw Mike getting pushed around. Yeah, was Roger Stone in that episode? We're being bad partners Roger hasn't been there this season I think it was at CPAC This is the Don Leventor show with the Stoogats podcast Cass. I don't know if this is true of the rest of you.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Too many of my evenings are spent sort of scrolling through trailers on things I don't think are going to be any good and then going to bed because I can't find things that I want to watch. And I don't know if this is happening to everybody, but Jessica is, she has embarked on something before the weekend that I think a lot of people do, you are not one of them, Greg Cote. I don't know, when's the last movie you saw in a theater? Rocket Man.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Okay. A couple years ago. Relatively recently. That was like six years, that was before COVID. Harlan Williams? It was it? And before that it was Swing Boat. Harlan Williams.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Not Harlan Williams, no. That's a great movie. Harlan Williams? Who was it? And before that it was Swing Boat. Not Harlan Williams. That's a great movie. Not Harlan Williams. This was Terran Edgerton. The Elton John movie. Oh yeah yeah. Jessica is trying to watch all of the best picture nominees before Sunday and I get tempted by that sometimes when they group it for me and they're like, here, these are guaranteed to be good, right? But I don't have the stamina for it.
Starting point is 00:07:05 And I've tried to do that in years past, and I quit after half of the first one, because I chose one that was a little too arty. Is it arty or artsy? It's artsy. If you're Dan, it's not farty. Okay. You know that. Well, because I've heard gutty and gutsy before,
Starting point is 00:07:24 and we need to figure that one out. But arty or artsy, I think it's not farty. You know that. Well, because I've heard gutty and gutsy before, and we need to figure that one out. But arty or artsy, I think it's artsy. Where do you watch trailers? Do you guys remember when Max used to come with a little thing at the bottom where you could just watch a bunch of movie trailers? It was awesome.
Starting point is 00:07:37 I will say the trailers I saw before the movie I watched yesterday didn't look that good. One of them was a Rami Malek, iRobot meets Taken trailer. Ugh, damn. Why are we making faces on iRobot meets Taken? I thought all the boys always loved anything meets Taken. No, but Rami Malek too.
Starting point is 00:07:58 It just didn't look interesting to me. I have a certain set of skills. Exactly. He's like a tech guy and he's trying to get revenge for his wife, I don't know. Particular set of skills. Exactly. He's like a tech guy and he's trying to get revenge for his wife. Particular set of skills. Too many robot movies out there right now. And Rami Malek was like mean to someone
Starting point is 00:08:12 that he went to school with. Rachel Billson, you guys know that story. He was mean to Rachel Billson? Yeah, Rachel Billson put out like a picture, like he won an award or he was gonna win an award. So she's like, she put out a picture of like, oh, here's me with Rami, like in high school, but he was a little chunkier than he was at the time.
Starting point is 00:08:27 And then he apparently, as legend has it, reached out, as I remember the legend has it, he reached out and was like, please take that down. And then that was the whole thing. Oh yeah, I do remember this story. So I was trying to be nice to him, be like, you know, I'm so happy for my friend that I've known since high school.
Starting point is 00:08:43 And then he was a giant D word to her. That was a while ago. Yeah, I'm never gonna forgive him. It was, yeah, that was also- You don't cross Rachel Billson. Pre-COVID times. Is Malek the guy who played Freddie Mercury? Yes, that was, I think that was in the Bohemian Rhapsody era.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Yeah. That is your father trying to keep up with the conversation. He's proud of himself for knowing who an actor is. This is what happens with age. I'm not even blaming him. I'm just recognizing him. I feel like he knew that answer and just wanted to get in on the conversation.
Starting point is 00:09:08 That's correct. That's all that happened there. But I want to get into what it is. And good call by you. You saw your father clearly there. He just wanted to participate, show that he knew something, was asking as if he didn't knew, but knows. I thought I knew.
Starting point is 00:09:21 I like that move. Set yourself up for a spike. It is. That's exactly He's good. He's good at that on Tuesdays but you Billy talking talking about the idea of These taken movies. I thought I thought that those are the That's a vet. That's a fine. That's a fine. That's a fine. What's a fine?
Starting point is 00:09:44 Your phone your phone phone went off. Your phone just went off. Oh, it did? How is it that we all hear- I turned it off! How is it that we can all hear a phone that's near you better than you can even though it's- I have ear muffs on.
Starting point is 00:09:56 We all do, and they're not ear muffs. That's not an ear muff. Yeah, I'll let talk about trailers. Trailers for sale or rent. That's right. Oh, for the love of Yeah, I'll let talk about trailers trailers for sailor rent. That's right for the love of God Okay, is a trailer. I mean, I've seen trailers about 15 20 feet. They shouldn't be more than then 15 cents Yeah, say Lauren Trailers should not be more than a minute. They should be short another like five minutes. I don't think they're ever five minutes I've seen there's some long ones, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Greg's right about that. Chris is right about 15. The two and a half minute trailers, I do feel like I've seen the movie at some point. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I thought I saw somewhere there was a state that was trying to pass a law,
Starting point is 00:10:34 and it could be fake because the internet's not real. There was a state that was trying to pass a law where you had to say the start time of the trailers and the start time of the actual film. And a state was trying to implement that. Yeah, introduce legislation. That would be great, huh? That's very serious.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Also no homeowners tax. Unnecessary. We don't need municipal services. I think that part of the thrill of going to the theater is sort of ballparking when the movie's going to start. Like yesterday, I walked in right at showtime. Perhaps for someone who is not a season movie goer veteran because we were perfect timing.
Starting point is 00:11:08 You don't like the trailers? No, I do, but I want to kind of get there right as the trailers are ramping up. So I've got like six or seven minutes and then I'm cozy by the time the movie starts. She's a celeb. She needs to sneak in and out of theaters so that there's not people talking to her
Starting point is 00:11:21 with the lights on. Thank you. Well, I would think at this point, the theaters are pretty empty and you can get Thank you. Well, I would think at this point, the theaters are pretty empty and you can get in them pretty easily, I would assume. I thought theaters were largely dying. Do I have this wrong? I think there's been a resurgence
Starting point is 00:11:35 of theater going in the last couple years, yeah. Especially because there's been so many good movies that have come out. Dune Two in theaters, I mean, a spectacle. I don't know if you guys wonder about this, right, but as things, as we continue to gravitate toward convenience in a way that makes Bezos so rich, what is happening in movies is the same thing that's going to happen in sports, is it not? Where people realize that the convenience from home and the ability to also get ADD from home,
Starting point is 00:12:07 where you can check in on other things all the time, is more fun than going to the theater. This is all coming to sports. Is it not? I don't know if it'll come- It's not more fun, it's more convenient. Well, no, but yes, more convenient, but also just more. If you're at home, you get to be more in the devices and more in the things that disconnect you from the energy of sports. This is not true in college football, but this is what's happening in theaters.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Is it not? The reason theaters die is because people have the convenience of, I'll just watch it at home for $20 in my underwear. But at sporting events, if I turn around and I call someone an MFer and I push them, I'm a great fan. If I do it at home, I'm a bad dad.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Plus I find being on my couch in only my underwear, not like, I like to at least throw a sweater on. Just my underwear, I get chilly. Do you not believe this is coming to sports? Or is it not, is it already here with sports? It is. It's coming, for sure. We saw that in the Unrivaled League,
Starting point is 00:13:03 where they barely let fans in they don't need fans But but I've always said long before the streaming age One of my complaints about going to a stadium is that you learn less at the game Than you would watching it on TV in in instances such as injuries if a player is injured You're asking the guys sitting next to you. What happened to him? You never find out I guess what I'm asking the guys sitting next to you what happened to him you never find out I guess what I'm asking you guys you know how you look back at those photos of baseball games in the 50s and people are going in suits and a top hat to the game are we going to look back at this time 30 years from now and be like look all those people used to go to the games those people used
Starting point is 00:13:38 to go and have to sit there because they wanted to be close to what it is that's happening if that can happen to theaters why wouldn't it happen to sports? It's already, you don't want to bother with the parking. You may, Saturdays and Sundays, they think are different. But what year is this? Theater's a rebounding song. This is a conversation, like people not going to sports and people not going to theaters,
Starting point is 00:13:56 this is like a 2021 conversation. Like there's a little bit of a rebound. I do think there's a threshold of ticket prices at which maybe attendance will drop because it's getting very, very expensive to go to games. Like, very, very expensive. And like, not good games sometimes. But I think the in-person experience at a theater is still something you can't get at
Starting point is 00:14:18 home just like the in-person experience at most stadiums and arenas is something you can't get at home. So you're paying to have the experience, not just to watch the game. Dan, you articulated something that, yeah, I guess I wanna be surrounded by my devices if it's a movie I kinda wanna see. Yeah, that's fine, that's a nice supplement. Like, I'll give it a chance.
Starting point is 00:14:33 But if it's a movie that I'm excited about, if it's Nosferatu, I wanna see it as the filmmaker intended. I wanna be- I didn't like Nosferatu that much. All right, it's a mustache, right? It's a device. No, actually it wasn't the mustache. I just thought the middle portion was a little boring.
Starting point is 00:14:46 I can understand that. If I really wanna see a movie, I'll only take my phone out like six times throughout the movie. Jessica, you weren't here yesterday, but I still haven't recovered from my wife deciding on Nosferatu at seven a.m. on Saturday. I still haven't gotten the cold off of me from that movie. Did you like it?
Starting point is 00:15:06 Yeah, I did like it. Well, but I liked it. I liked it because I just rarely feel these days. I don't know if you guys do this. I just rarely feel these days with, especially with period pieces, like a transporting. But I'm telling you, it's 7 a.m. on a Saturday. That's aggressive. And I feel like I made a mistake, I still haven't gotten off of me on Tuesday. I've got a film on me that feels uncomfortable because I've visited the depths of hell. Bobby Eggs, that's what he does.
Starting point is 00:15:34 And it was romantic. You should do Christmas Morning Lighthouse, that's what I do. Was it romantic? Like watching it with your wife or the film? No, just eternal love, eternal love running dark. Ah, that wasn't really the message we got. I think it was the opposite of that.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Ah, Bram Stroker, the Bram. Bram Stroker, all right, my guy. The, that was the first time I was introduced to dark love. I didn't like it back then in the 80s. Whatever it is that vampires are supposed to represent. Princess Ford Coppola's? I think I was like 92. I've traveled oceans of time.
Starting point is 00:16:08 You gotta check out Twilight, Dan. You would love it. There's a really good baseball scene in the first movie. Are you gonna get to Sunday and watch all of these movies, the best picture nominees? I have one ginormous hurdle in my way. The Oscars are indeed this week, Sunday, March 2nd, I believe is the date,
Starting point is 00:16:25 the Brutalist, it's three hours and 35 minutes long and that is my last hurdle. I paused Conclave in the middle of it last night to go to bed at nine because. Their marketing is getting out of control by the way. Well I mean, it's a perfect time to watch Conclave, although I do hear the Pope is rebounding. I hope so.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Greg Cody, do you wanna participate in the Conclave conversation? Do you want to throw out anything about Freddie Mercury? No, the Conclave doesn't appeal to me as I don't want to, you know, Vatican based, I assume, you know, Catholicism. I don't care too much about that. Stanley Tucci is in it. The movie is fine. Ray Fiennes is in it. The movies to me took a big downward turn
Starting point is 00:17:06 We will watch the Oscars Sunday because my wife is totally in the Award shows and red carpets and all that so I will watch it But you got to go back to five nominees for best picture What do they have now 1210 10 way too many don't care though way way You didn't see the five when they had the five But it was a digestible number like when it was five there was a chance that I could name all five Nominees and I would be smirking because you just know Ten is too many. I mean they're doing that
Starting point is 00:17:41 They're doing that it's To get people to the movies. They're doing that. It's, it's, they're doing that to get people to the movies. I think it's good that there are more movies getting recognized for being well-made movies, even if they don't really have a chance. But they're not really, right? F25. But they are.
Starting point is 00:17:54 I haven't seen a bad movie yet. I've seen movies that I was like, this isn't the best thing yet. But there's ones. Any bad movies produced by Netflix? There's ones in there that they know are not gonna win. They're just doing it to do it. And then you say, oh, Academy Award for Best Picture.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Even Amelia Perez, I didn't care for the story, but it's a well-made movie. I could see it getting nominations for editing and production and stuff like that. There aren't gonna be any bad movies that are nominated, right? There might not be movies that are popular, that people like, but there's not going to
Starting point is 00:18:25 be any such thing as a nominated bad movie, is there? I hope Wicked wins. I'm just going to come out and say that. There are movies that I have enjoyed more than Wicked, but I love the message that Wicked sends. And practical effects, practical set design, big sweeping cinematic musicals, it harkens back to a previous time, and I think you really should encourage that type of filmmaking.
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Starting point is 00:19:48 He said all. I know. He said that. Everyone has said everything. First time I heard any of this, Greg. Everything you're saying. It's all been said. It's all been said.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Okay, you got to understand one thing. Stoogats. Me maximum. That's right. Until I say it, it hasn't been said. Boom. Okay, understand that. You're the mayor.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Until I say it, it hasn't been said. Okay, understand that. You're the mayor. Until I say it hasn't been said. Me maximum. Me maximum. Me maximum. This is the Don LeBathardt Show with the Stugats. The Oscars in my house were just a yearly tradition where my dad and always my brother saying that he could be an actor. Well can you? Jerry Jones can. Yeah I like growing up every year my brother and my dad would be arguing with each other
Starting point is 00:20:35 because my dad would just be like yeah you give me a month I could go win Best Picture. Well I couldn't direct a film. Could I star in a film? You gotta be shitting me. That's what I'm saying. What type in a film? You gotta be shitting me. That's what I'm saying. What type of film? You have to be shitting me. You think you could star in a film.
Starting point is 00:20:49 We've done bits around here where you've had to act. Are you joking? We didn't give him a month, in fairness. Okay. Hold on. All right, there are different skills for different things, right? Could I hit 105 mile an hour fastball? Probably not.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Probably not. You know, i'd make contact but it wouldn't go out of the infield probably you know could i take a hand off and and running an nfl game yeah but i'd lose three yards acting to me is uh... is is uh... and and art form a skill that is attainable if if you have any any talent for. You think you can star in a movie
Starting point is 00:21:28 when the one time we were on stage you missed your cue and went running right past the microphone. Yeah, that's not a movie. There's one rehearsal too, not a month. Right. Greg said a month. Yeah. All right. I'll get back to this in a second. I'm watching White Lotus last night. Good series, by the way. Movie, whatever you call it. Which episode are you buying? Series.
Starting point is 00:21:52 The second one. We just watched the second one. I'm watching that, thinking to myself, frankly, these are some roles that someone like me could play. Which role specifically do you think you could play from White Lotus? You know what, I don't, it's the new season and I'm too into it. The father.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Give him time. The father who's in trouble who keeps going out with his phone. Jason Isaacs, you think you could do Jason Isaacs' role? The brother that we saw as Weiner. What about my role? You know, I do think you could play her ex-husband. Okay. Your father. Oh, come on.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Your father didn't recognize your impersonation. He's in the White Lotus conversation. Jennifer Coolidge? Oh, that. She's not in it anymore. It's me. Okay. How do you not recognize your son's impersonation from White Lotus?
Starting point is 00:22:41 Okay, because he's referring to someone who was in the last season's White Lotus, not this season. I love that they completely changed cast. Which is the role you think you could play? They don't. I can play the guy who's, not the main guy who's in trouble and always on the phone. Not the father who's in trouble on the phone.
Starting point is 00:22:59 The other man. Walton Goggins. Who's always in a bad mood. Wait a minute, you think you could be Baby Billy? Yeah, yes. One of the great character actors of our time. Yeah, like a sour individual, I can play that. You know, that's me.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Greg Cody thinks he could do Goggans? He just said he could do Jason Isaacs like five seconds ago. Greg, I think you could actually play Greg in the show. I can't believe that Greg Cody... Wait, Greg, do you know which one Greg is? No. It's only two episodes I haven't memorized all the names. He was only in the other two seasons. It's your name. Go on the record and say acting is hard Here's what we have happening here and I love that people get to see it. Okay, because it's part of being in that chair
Starting point is 00:23:40 It's part of who Stu gots is and Greg and Stu Gotts have somehow over the years, both of them, been diagnosed with Dunning-Kruger, which is that they think they can do anything, even though neither one of them can do anything. Stu Gotts is presently not here because he's in Australia right now, and he's looking to secure some sort of digital media company opportunity, and he's calling it, I'm not sure whether it's Operation Boomerang or Operation blooming onion or operation boomerang blooming onion but he he thinks he can do anything Cody thinks he can do anything it is asinine asinine for you to think that you could star in a vehicle if we give you a decade of training hold on
Starting point is 00:24:24 a second then you just walked on and you were on an HBO show. So why can't Greg be on an HBO show? Because I had two lines, it took nine hours, and I was stiff. And may I be Frank? That was an amateur actor. Really?
Starting point is 00:24:39 Yeah. How would you have done it? That was a great performance as Frank. I'm going to get you the script, Greg, and then see if by the end of the show you could reprise Dan's role in Ballers. Let's do that. I totally could.
Starting point is 00:24:49 All right. I would be, what's the end game, you know, whatever your line was. Spence. Nailed it. Spence, what's the end game? Spence with like a fake cigar in his hand. It was a real cigar. All right, that was hilarious.
Starting point is 00:25:00 How do you grade your performance in Ballers, Dan? I was terrible. Yeah, you were. Letter grade, plus through f minus one three or five D I'd give myself a three. I think it's solid so all Greg has to do is beat a D right I can do that Have I oh yeah? Have I told you guys the story of beat that D J. I can do that Jay Glazer stole, ends up stealing ballers from what could have been ours
Starting point is 00:25:33 because one of those seasons was supposed to open with Endomic and Sue tackling me on a recreation of the Clevelander set. Like one of those. So perhaps I would have learned something that Jay Glazer learned about acting and become better at it, but I don't think so. No, I think you reached.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Jay Glazer started as a standup. He has better performative aspects to his talent than you do. Yeah, like just because you were on Ballers in Jay's role doesn't mean you'd then be like this MMA aficionado in the octagon. You guys wouldn't have swapped lives just because of that role.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Thank you, Billy. I don't know why your MMA aficionado moves with those shoulders walking that way. Well, I'm not Jay. No, he's just trying to say, you're not going to be able to take a knee from Mercedes-Benz. Agreed. I walk it back.
Starting point is 00:26:21 I am making fun of him for thinking he's a better actor than he is. guys are making me the the butt of the joke as the actor from ballers but i was terrible and i didn't think i'd be any good at it either i'm not i'm not afflicted with what greg is greg thinks he'd be good at anything he tried he's all in three in cooking competition to call self-confidence try it sometime but but you but it's not how does call self-confidence try it sometime but but you but it's not how does your self-confidence not get derailed by the lack of success
Starting point is 00:26:52 because i have a good at that i've never given it a chance it's hard okay here's the thing and i need to i need to say that because he's painting me as the guy who thinks he would have a category award the first time he walks on a set all I'm saying is that relative to other skills such as we see in sports I don't think acting is that tough it's it's not you know playing tennis against you know Jacob Skinner or whatever his name is it's not I love you trying to find stuff. Well, I was gonna say Mackerel, but it would've been a dated reference.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Sinner. Or whatever, Sinner. Yannick. Yannick, Jacob, Skinner, whatever his name is. Greg, Greg, Greg. He's not here to take a quiz. Greg, how did you have all of tennis at your disposal and you stumbled into that?
Starting point is 00:27:39 I don't follow men's tennis. But why did you do that? He's more of a WTA guy. You could've named a women's player then. Could've said Venus Williams Williams anyone in the history You know what Venus is 44. I think I could stay in a set with her Oh you shut your mouth I'm kidding, that was a joke that was a joke. Wow that's good acting
Starting point is 00:27:56 Wow that's good acting You acted like a sexist You had me convinced you were a sexist I'm just saying acting is easy relative to hitting 105 mile an hour fastball That's all I'm saying. Okay, deny that no I will I will grant you look There are degrees right there are all sorts of actors who are doing song and dance or doing like things that show Great range. It's not a character actor in a role part. You said starring in a movie. I would be a character actor. You could not. You could say you were. We've got actors have
Starting point is 00:28:30 range. I'm not delusional. I don't think an inexperienced guy my age stars in a movie. You are delusional here. You are delusional. You've never tried it. So you don't know how difficult it is. OK, I have a question. I have a question. Which Quaid brother would you be, Dennis or Randy? Yeah. You know either of those people. Randy's the goofball, right? Yeah, you're more of a Dennis? I think I'd be a Dennis.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Yeah. One of the great moments on this show's history is asking Dennis Quaid what's the strangest thing about his brother Randy Quaid and him saying he can eat an apple in one bite. Apple a day. Green or red? I miss him.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Rick Barnes? Yeah, I miss him. Hopefully he's back for Talladega so we can barn some rubber. You were trying to make a podcast with him after the show yesterday, Rick Barnes, NASCAR aficionado. You wanted to turn a NASCAR product
Starting point is 00:29:23 immediately around for metal art. Barn and Rubber with Rick Barnes. I found a soulmate. I had no idea. He was locked in. He watched that entire race two days ago. Man, that's what it took to get some NASCAR. It's weird because we don't really talk a lot of NASCAR and we certainly don't talk a lot of college basketball. And in one beautiful segment, we were Barn and Rubber with Rick Barnes. You don't hear many references to the Wood brothers anymore. Let me hear from Dennis Quaid on that real quick please. Give us a wacky fact about your brother Randy.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Oh, he can eat an apple in one bite. That is insane. You do realize that. I don't believe him. Okay, that's fine, but I can imagine it. I think I'd like to watch that. Hey there wellness warriors. If you're like me, you've given a lot of thought to how to improve your health and wellness routine this year. I've started stretching more, do a little mindfulness
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Starting point is 00:32:26 I literally put together Mike Ryan and stage for your toenail Your career right now pal look at me. I am your career no Stugats you have messed with me David and now you're messing with me and I'm more dangerous pal. This is the Dunlavatar Show with the Stugats. I wanted to ask you guys a couple of local questions here about both the Panthers and the Heat. We have talked a lot more about the Heat and this is as bad as it'll look in Miami. I think we've gotten used to a certain relevance around here in basketball that when you lose that way to Atlanta We've been spoiled over the last 15 years You're watching something die
Starting point is 00:33:32 It could have been foretold you were with Boston at that point And then you see Jimmy Butler go to Golden State and he's saying while there This is the best team I've ever played on and they're blowing people out and you're seeing Greg Cody called the Andrew Wiggins trade a home run you're seeing a Frustration around the Miami Heat that I don't believe I've seen in the last 15 years around here Do I have this wrong that this is about as bad as it gets you lose to Atlanta? You're having all sorts of trouble scoring points and Tyler Heroes, you're all star
Starting point is 00:34:09 and he'll give you 40 every once in a while, but you know that if that's what's leading your team, this is its record. If Tyler Heroes is going to be your all star, this team's record is going to end up being six games under 500 fighting for the play-in game. Yeah, you've lost six out of seven, and all the shows, if you're watching yesterday,
Starting point is 00:34:27 are doing the, look how good Jimmy is with Golden State. It just, it feels like a low point for the Heat in like at least a decade. Yeah, they're suddenly a team in a franchise that doesn't matter. I saw a list of the top 15 most watched NBA games this season, Heat, not among them. Like there's no interest. Other than the Jimmy Butler trade drama, this has been a nondescript season that isn't even really worth talking about.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I don't think that the Heat, for the first time in a long time, don't have what I would call a star player. Okay, but hold on. When you say not worth talking about, because I want to get to Kachuk on Fallon, and I want to get to the team that not worth talking about because i want to get to catch up on felon i want to get to the team that is we're talking about locally but when you say not worth talking about not quite because the embers on this are going to die quietly when you're talking about fifteen years of raging burning heat twitter as a community right so no it's not don't say it's not we're talking about because i'll read you the
Starting point is 00:35:22 tweets of all the people and where you get into when you say not worth talking about. All of these people writing things like, uh, you can't continue to be pitiful in fourth quarter, struggle to break a hundred points and not even be questioned as a head coach. What are we doing? The talent isn't that bad. Spose getting some of it now. And and it's not it's not a little bit it's like I don't like this thing I'm spoiled for 15 years this isn't what
Starting point is 00:35:51 it's supposed to look like I was promised that if Spoh gets the players they'll always be 500 wait a minute it's all broken down around Spoh oh it's Spoh's fault right every every GM every coach you do the polling Spoh's the best coach in Every GM, every coach, you do the polling, Spoh's the best coach in the league. There is no other best coach in the league. But now they'll come after Spoh too because it's not supposed to look like this. Where are the answers, Spoh?
Starting point is 00:36:14 Don't you always have answers? And there are no answers. They're bad. I don't think it falls on Spoh whatsoever. It's on the front office, 100%. He's always bailed them out though. Spoh has always bailed out wherever the front office, 100%. He's always bailed them out though. Spoh has always bailed out wherever the front office deficiencies have been.
Starting point is 00:36:28 St. Ben Gundy's really good on the topic. But sometimes even Greg Popovich, the franchise dips in such a way that it's impossible to dig out from immediately. I think, look, the peers respect Spoh, the players respect Spoh, especially now that Jimmy's gone. This is time to get Eric Spohl's for some players.
Starting point is 00:36:48 He's a proven commodity. It's not like the game has passed Spoh by. I mean, he- Yeah, but it's just so bad right now that everyone's getting it. Like that's why, yeah, it's so bad right now that Jimmy's stuff hurt so much that it's like the writers, the fans,
Starting point is 00:37:01 they're just, I'll give it to everybody right now. Who wants it? Spoh, it's your fault, it's Riley's fault, it's our fault. No, but it's not just that they're losing. It's that it, and it's not just that they're uninteresting. It's that offensively they're bad. Like they're only four or five teams worse than them.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Throwing out an 8.4th quarter and a 9.4th quarter because you get strangled at the end of games because you don't have anything at the end of games. Like to have their offense be bottom of the league bad when you're watching it is something else entirely. Right, but you could maybe resent them for the lack of development of players on the roster. You can't actually do that.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Tyler Hero has become an all-star despite things being bad over here. Bam Adebayo has met his ceiling, but he was developed into a player that potentially gets his jersey hung up in the rafters. You see so many great examples of player development with this limited roster that you can only help but turn your attention to the merely dozen over the last four year, uh,
Starting point is 00:37:55 pursuits of talent that have failed miserably by this franchise. And that lands on the front office, not on Eric's Bolshev. And where has had a good rookie season? Last time I looked, he was among the rookie of the year front runners, so they've developed him pretty quickly. Somebody- He was a favorite for rookie of the year a month ago, last I checked. That's nice, and where's Hockes? Where's he been?
Starting point is 00:38:17 Like, what happened there? Somebody's gonna get the numbers on a basketball team that's a professional basketball team that in the modern age is scoring 110 120 points a game this what we're watching right now isn't something that we've seen in 15 years I don't think I can't remember it Terry Rozier the poison being thrown his way on how bad he's been most right Mike's ever been what oh my god yeah Yeah. You wanna take a victory lap on that one, Mike? Do you wanna?
Starting point is 00:38:47 I think I did already. No, you already did the Terry Rozier victory lap? Yeah, I got pretty sure. Okay, because we haven't had a win around here like that. Do you really feel like you need to invite Mike Ryan to do a victory lap? We'll just do it. It's a good point, Jessica.
Starting point is 00:39:00 The fact that we're in reruns on this and it's already happened is an indictment of me. You're isolating it to Terry Rose here and you're not giving me enough credit. Terry, Terry. You're not. This whole thing was predicted two years ago. This is the end game, Spence, for what they have wrought.
Starting point is 00:39:16 They decided to sit idly by while everyone else in their conference got better. I feel like I sound like a broken record. I'm incapable of new thoughts when it comes to this franchise because I've been saying this was coming for two years. It's a failure on the leadership when it comes to
Starting point is 00:39:32 talent acquisition, even when they actually acquire people, it's Kyle Lowry and Terry Rozier. And we were saying no, don't do that. Even when they were making the finals, I said. Oh, here we go. No, no no I said if Jimmy Butler is your best player You're gonna be good, but you're not gonna compete for a championship in this league and Jimmy Butler is gone now And their best player is you know a guard who scores 40 points one night And then as four for 14 the next night bam out of by who said Wiggins was a home run
Starting point is 00:40:04 You don't get to take a victory lap. You said Wiggins was a home run on the Jimmy Butler trade. Relative to what they could have gotten. If they didn't- A relative home run. If they didn't trade him, what would they have gotten for Jimmy Butler? It's not a home run.
Starting point is 00:40:16 No, no, tell me. Take it back. Just say double, can't it be a double? Dodging the question, Greg. Yeah, they did the best they could at the trade deadline. When Durant was an option they got the best they could. Well some some are saying was never gonna come. They should have realized that this was gonna happen with Jimmy and made the move in the offseason. I don't yeah I'm not denying that but what I said two years ago is true that if Jimmy Butler is your best player
Starting point is 00:40:41 you're not a championship contending team. I don't care if you just made the, luck to make it into the final. In fairness to the Heat front office, Steph Curry is a free agent in 2027, 2028. So we're just kind of waiting around whale hunting again. And Ben Ryder is reporting for CBS Sports that Giannis is sniffing around. Oh, great. Again.
Starting point is 00:41:00 This will be the third time that they are going to get him, right? I'm so sick of this franchise. Really? Yeah, it's just like, okay, it's our birthright to get this whale. How many times are we gonna fail just on Kevin Durant alone? Is whale hunting legal? No, apparently it's banned,
Starting point is 00:41:17 especially down in South Florida. You know what I enjoyed most about what happened with the last Kevin Durant thing? Mike Ryan is over here with the brave face of how many times are we going to fail on Kevin Durant and he's covered himself with the scar tissue. When your fandom got birthed by 2010 through 2014, not birthed but just inflamed by everything that happened with LeBron, you come to expect mattering at the top of the sport, and they competed for five years
Starting point is 00:41:50 very close to the top of the sport, and now he's insulated himself with this armor of don't hurt me anymore with Terry Rozier, I'm embarrassed by what represents our uniform now, because Boston comes in here and drags them, and the franchise has fallen on its face and so he's scarred and covered up and he doesn't want anyone to see his pain
Starting point is 00:42:12 but he has been right about this team for two years. Shouldn't they have gotten Kevin Durant? Take anyone on the roster for Kevin Durant because you're not winning anyway so why not have one of the greatest basketball players ever associated with your franchise, your organization. You'll be more relevant, you'll sell out more games because you have a star on your team.
Starting point is 00:42:32 For the rest of his career in basketball history, look, we had Kevin Durant on the team, let's say he plays here a year, two years, maybe three years, you retire his jersey, you do the whole, he's part of Heat culture and all of this stuff. There is value in getting Kevin Durant, even if it wasn't going to win you the basketball games,
Starting point is 00:42:48 that you're not winning anyways, you're scoring 80 points a day. So let me ask you this question, because Phoenix is burnt too, the place that I was headed with Mike Ryan's fandom is, he can say how many times are we going to fail on Kevin Durant alone, but I saw him perk up when Kevin Durant reports came out. I saw him interested yet again. His hope peaked by, oh, maybe Kevin
Starting point is 00:43:14 Durant. And then I told you guys that that was never close to happening because Ishbia, who's running the Suns poorly, wanted what the Heat were describing as our whole team for Kevin Durant. So do it. And your response is they should have just traded for Kevin Durant. Yeah. I like that plan. Yeah, they've won one out of what,
Starting point is 00:43:37 their last like nine games? Yeah. What are we hogging these players for, who cares? Who's on this roster that's gonna help the Miami Heat win a championship? Bam Adebayo would. Has he though so far with Jimmy? You got hurt one time? Let's not be, he could be a piece on a team.
Starting point is 00:43:55 He's talking to me about Bam Adebayo. Please stop talking to me about him. We know what he is. He's not a centerpiece. No he's not, we know what he is. He's a piece power forward. He's been around for a decade, we know what he is guys. He's a starter caliber player though, and so is he. Starter caliber No, he's not. We know what he is. He's a piece. He's been around for a decade. We know what he is, guys.
Starting point is 00:44:05 He's a starter caliber player though. And so is Hero. Starter caliber player? He's on the Dream Trim and an All-Star. He's an elite defensive player. Come on, come on. I will not go on. Dream Team's like the Pro Bowl at this point.
Starting point is 00:44:14 He's an elite defensive player. If you could have one for the rest of their career, are you taking Wear or Bam? This is disrespectful. It's a good question though. It's an excellent sports radio question. I think a bam, hero, and where are keepers? I think you build around them, they need a star.
Starting point is 00:44:32 I don't have any more money. I got max contracts to hero and bam. I wish we could see. That's not winning anything. I wish we could just see Jeremy's face right now. No, I don't want to do that. He's so mad we're talking about this without him. Yes, and you're so mad we're talking about it with you.
Starting point is 00:44:48 I'm honestly mad too. No, I kind of enjoy when the sky is falling with the Miami heat. It's better than when the Miami heat are good and then everyone's pumping their chest about it. This is the kind of conversation I actually enjoy. This was what I was ruin. This was what I was fearing.
Starting point is 00:45:03 He was ruin this. Love a good rue. This is what I was fearing Love a good rue. I don't like being totally insignificant Mike is being right about these things. I do I hate it I hate being this right about this team now We are totally insignificant and we're not thinking in the year that we should there's a player coming down here that we're we'd like To watch at the Watts go that it's a you know, it know is a unicorn it'd be great to have like one really bad year yeah get some assets realize that hey Bam we got the most out of you thank you so much let's get some assets let's do that but no we're just gonna keep they they held on to Bam at all Bam was not a it was not a grabbable piece Bam was not of has not been available to anybody the last few years.
Starting point is 00:45:47 And neither was Jimmy for a long time. We even put out a press release saying that we're not gonna trade them. Like, this franchise, I understand, but it was in retrospect, really such a bad thing that happened. Them being such a historical outlier and getting hot and making it to those two finals
Starting point is 00:46:01 because that wasn't a championship team. It may have been the best team in the Eastern Conference playoffs, but it wasn't close to what they needed to be. I'm gonna be down the middle, Chris, on this. We are being disrespectful to Bam, but they should also be listening to offers for him. He shouldn't be off the table.
Starting point is 00:46:16 That's ridiculous. Making the finals was arguably the worst thing that could have happened to the Heat. You guys are doing something funny, right? No, it's true, because now they're stuck in No Man's Land in a team that couldn't actually win. We can have a long discussion about whether or not it would have been right at any point in the last 2 and 1
Starting point is 00:46:38 1 half years to trade BAM. But it has not become obvious until the last six months. This team, it has not become obvious until the last six months. Like this team, it has not become obvious that Bam is somebody that you should put on the trade market because if that was the case, we wouldn't have been talking about Lillard and Durant. They wanted to come and play with that piece. That's the piece. It wasn't hero.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Well, they wanted to come and play with that piece because they could be the star with that piece. Well, but no. They could alpha him. No, they wanted to come and play with that piece because they could be the star with that piece. Well, but no. They could alpha him. No, but and he does the specific things that now Steph Curry benefits from because Jimmy Butler's willing to do them. Like the idea that somebody could play.
Starting point is 00:47:15 BAM? BAM? They've taken a step back this year. No, it's not that BAM has taken a step back. It's they've had to give all the usage rate to Tyler Hero. And so when they do that, all of a sudden, BAM becomes less than, because they're not playing the game through Butler and BAM.
Starting point is 00:47:29 As someone that was arguing to trade BAM out of bio, even when it wasn't popular in this market, they failed so many times in talent acquisition. They failed in the mission that we all agreed, Jimmy Butler is not good enough to be your best player on a championship-winning team. We had an asset to trade for a player that was better than Jimmy Butler. It was BAM.
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