The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Dan "The Asterisk Guy" and Tyreek Hill's Jealousy
Episode Date: January 29, 2025Dan is a big-time asterisk guy according to Amin, and Billy is celebrating National Curmudgeon Day. Then, is fandom more fun when you're shutting people up? And is Tyreek Hill jealous of what's happen...ing in Kansas City even though he's received more money and praise since he left? Plus, Stugotz stole a take from Billy who stole it from Bill Barnwell who was kidding, but Chris stole the same take from Jessica who was definitely not kidding. Also, is radio row Stugotz the most reliable Stugotz? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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This is the Don LeBattor Show with the StuGuts Podcast.
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By way of good morning, Amin opens by insulting me.
He flies in on a red eye.
We've got a crew here that's hurting a little bit
because Stugatz is sick.
We don't know if he's gonna make it during the show.
I'm sick, bad time to get sick before the Super Bowl.
I believe that Stugatz would argue
that football did this to him.
I think that would be the official diagnosis
from Dr. McDaniel.
We have a mean over here, and his face still doesn't look
right from that fall after the holiday party.
There's something that doesn't look quite right
about his face, but the way that he comes in here
and insults me by half of, outside of half
of his swollen limp, is he comes in here and insults me by half of, outside of half of his swollen limp is he comes in here and he says,
Dan, you're an asterisk guy.
Hmm.
You're an asterisk guy.
Right, what do you mean by that?
It's a big asterisk guy.
Really?
Yeah, huge.
That can mean so many things.
Right.
So this topic is actually a couple weeks old
from the regular season.
You talk about Saquon Barkley,
and you were saying if he had
played that last game and broke the record, should be an
asterisk because he did in 17 games.
I didn't say there should be an asterisk.
I just said that it's not the same to do it in 17 games as
it is to do it in 16 games or do it in 14 games.
How could you possibly disagree with that, though?
He's right.
I'm not disagreeing.
I'm saying that's an asterisk guy.
Okay, that's a context. What is an aster'm saying that's an asterisk guy. Okay, all right.
That's a context, so what is,
is an asterisk context, is an asterisk pejorative?
I think of an asterisk as neutral, benign.
Pejorative, I mean.
But then you're also missing the context
of I think he's done it in less carries.
So it's an extra game, but it's less opportunities to do so.
Second asterisk.
But I'm just saying it's a nullified asterisk
because you're saying that oh, he had more opportunities
but he actually had less in more time.
You gotta put that second asterisk on there
because the asterisk is at the bottom
where you look it up in the footnotes.
Is this where you start getting like a little two plus sign?
Like what the hell is that?
Even on the keyboard?
Exactly.
That's confusing.
Keyboards have been simplified but complicated.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Before like they were a lot longer
and then they had that secondary number pad
and then all the little tildes and stuff on top.
It was easy to find things.
Now it's like there's however many keys,
there are 34 keys or whatever.
You can't find half of the stuff that goes out in print.
You don't know where people get that from,
how they get it on there.
I don't know.
I can't even, before I used to just be able to,
when I took Mario Teach's typing,
and I learned in, you know, Wii, second grade or whatever,
how to type my Q-W-E-R-T-Ys, you know what I mean?
When I was doing that, ASD, FG, all of that stuff, right?
I knew Alt 164 was this, Alt 132 was that.
I don't even know where Alt is anymore.
Don't write, but I don't even know where alt is anymore. I'm gonna tell you right now Billy.
It's on the right, but I don't know where it is
on the keyboard.
You're an old man, because nobody uses keyboards
like in the early 21st century.
Oh, I'm typing on it.
Use it on your phone.
You know how I get to all those weird symbols?
You hold the letters down and then a menu pops up.
And if I want an O with two dots on it,
if I want an Enya over my N,
all of that's on my phone keyboard.
I'm not out here trying.
Enya.
That's a fine, bad mouth fine.
Enya, not Enya.
What'd I say?
Two dollars.
You said Enya.
That's what I was talking about.
I was talking about the band.
If you hold down the N, the song comes out.
It is National Carmudgeon Day.
Billy is an old man.
He's been an old man since he came out of the womb.
And I want to know how the group feels in general
about both the asterisk and the footnote
because I'm not again, I'm not again the asterisk.
I'm for the asterisk.
I think the asterisk, if you want to give me
more information that gives context to what it is that I asterisk, I think the asterisk, if you wanna give me more information
that gives context to what it is that I've just read,
I would like more context.
We'll get to that in a second.
Billy's objecting in my headsets
to you calling him an old man.
I thought he said a meme was an old man.
He's been so out of the womb, and then it came at me.
Billy, it's National Kermudgeon Day.
When I think of Kermudgeons around here
who don't wanna see anybody,
you just argued on behalf of life is better lived under house arrest.
Oh, he's right.
Well, I mean, when you see the people I see, you wouldn't disagree with me.
Well, but that makes it seem...
There's people I like to see, just not the ones I'm seeing.
This is... your life, though, is something that you continue to make smaller and smaller,
and you basically don't want you you live your life
Within a very small radius on purpose because you don't want to interact with others
I I believe that that is the that is the behavior of the curmudgeon
Okay
Good circles
Do you yeah tight circles Jessica? Do you have any opinions about the footnote?
How do you guys, well, I'm not gonna turn to Stu Gotts
and ask him how he feels about the footnote,
but the asterisk to me is welcome.
I don't have any issues with the asterisk.
I prefer when the footnote is on the page that I'm reading
and not when I'm reading a dense book in the footnote
is all the way at the end,
because I'm not gonna flip that many pages to the end.
Also, I thought Enya was a Irish singer, not a band.
Is that another find for me?
Is it not a band?
Does she have a band also called Enya?
It's like Sade, I thought.
Like where Sade is the name of the lead singer,
but it's also the name of the band.
So it could be both?
I think it's both.
I wanna get some sound here.
Nick Wright's gonna join us later
and he's really trying to actively push paul rod and eric stone street out of the way
for number one chiefs fan in america he's doing the chiefs no favor
uh... favors because like i mean saying why is nick wright being on with us
mallie has been here in nick wright on television mallie in the other room and
he's been screaming and yelling that he wants to punch him in the face because
nick wright is affecting his mental health because he's been screaming and yelling that he wants to punch him in the face because nick right is affecting his mental health
because he's listening to too much nick right but eric stone street is mad at
adam schafter and basically it this is what's happening between chiefs fans in
the rest of the country right now
well it's because there's going to be a game don't get mired down in adam
schafter's we don't need his favorite he's going to be called out patrick
behomes in his tweet like patrick is favoring the Chiefs. I mean, he calls out Patrick Mahomes in his tweet,
like Patrick Mahomes is the only one on the beneficiary end
of a roughing the passer call.
He's got the biggest reach in all the NFL.
And here he's out implying and furthering this conspiracy
that the league is rigging the game against us.
Here's the deal.
I love football.
I love it all.
I don't, I hate that stuff. And here's what I also am. I'm pro
freedom of speech. I'm pro freedom of thought. You can
think if you're watching this, the league rigs it against the
Chiefs. I support your thought process in that. But I think
the one place that they wouldn't want that applied is Adam Schefter tweeting to all of
his followers saying, yep, the NFL, it sure seems like they're rigging the game for the
Chiefs.
It's like, that, whatever.
It is amazing how much Eric Stonestreet looks like Andy Reid behind him.
It would appear to you that that photograph was a self-portrait in his home
when you look at how much he looks like Andy Reid there.
The thing that's happening with the Chiefs, Stugatz,
it's unbelievably stupid, and yet the math supports it
when you just look at penalties,
if that's all you're looking at.
If I were a Chiefs fan, I would be so mad right now
that people are trying to dilute and diminish my excellence
by making it always about something
other than their excellence.
If I were a Chiefs fan, I would not be paying attention
to any other fan base and what they have to say
about my football team.
It's all the fan bases, it's not a fan base.
No, I understand that, but my team is going
for a third consecutive Super Bowl.
I don't care what it is you have to say.
Stugatz, you are not invested in this
if that's what you're doing, because fandom loves
to complain about all of the other people
who aren't giving us enough credit.
You are detached from this in a way that's unemotional.
No, Dan, I love to complain about, you know,
when the Patriots were going through it,
Brady was getting all the calls. But you're asking me, if I were love to complain about, you know, when the Patriots were going through it, Brady was getting all the calls.
But you're asking me, if I were a Chiefs fan,
would I care about all the outside noise?
And the answer is no.
Yeah, I don't think that you represent Chiefs fans
in any way right now.
I mean, Chief Kingdom, I went to the game, home opener.
Fandom is more fun when you're mad at somebody
and then get to shut them up or not shut them up.
Hear their whimpering complaints. Like, it makes it more fun if everyone is trying to take something away from you.
When I fully I believe we're all sitting here saying my God, my homes is awesome.
The whole erasing of Brady's memory is something that's happened pretty fast in that sport, hasn't it?
And then I think I can translate what's happening here.
See Stu Gotts is a Jets fan, right?
And part and parcel of Jets fan, right?
And part and parcel of Jets fandom
is always hating your team internally.
There's an internal kind of masochistic self-dislike
that you have as a Jets fan.
So Stugatz is just merely transposing,
well, if the Jets had the success that the Chiefs had,
oh, I wouldn't care.
But the reality is Stugatz would care,
but in a different way. He wouldn't be like, everyone's hating on us, like Chiefs fans care. But the reality is Stugatz would care but in a different
way. He wouldn't be like everyone's hating on us like Chiefs fans and people
from the Midwest do. Stugatz would be like, oh these guys how are they
gonna mess it up? How are they not gonna win three in a row? That's what we even,
they just could win seven in a row and Stugatz would still on number eight be
worried about how they're gonna mess it all up because they're the Jets. This is a
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Don Lebatard!
This is largely performative, but we need to establish some reasonable doubt.
Everyone with a toy on the table!
Please stop! Please stop!
It's too much at the top everyone with a toy where he plays more than you do.
Stugats.
I always like leaving a tan on.
I hate the chicken.
Because he's so vulnerable, I just unfairly fade down the chicken to just leave him by himself.
This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats.
You guys do understand. Just make it about yourselves, it's not that hard.
Your favorite team, it wins and everyone's talking about the refs and the games are fixed.
Like you'll eat some of that up, you'll eat some of it up because beating that out of
other fan bases, beating the respect out of everybody that refuses to give it to you stubbornly
because they're sitting there calling it refs
and then you win the next year
and then you win the next year.
And it makes me ask the question to all of you,
I know he got his money,
but Tyreek Hill's awfully jealous right now, is he not?
Because they just win every time.
He said when he was there, we can win seven or eight,
they can without you.
Like you got your money.
You got your money, but you feel what it's like not to make the playoffs for 24 not to
win a playoff game for 24 years you enter that building right you get your money you get your
stardom and at the end of the season you want to leave because you're so frustrated because
you're saying all I know how to do is win. They kept doing it there like I'm I was trying to
think of who's more jealous of whom where when you watch everything
that's happening throughout the sport.
Is Jason Kelsey jealous of Travis?
Because Travis gets to keep playing?
Like who is jealous where on what it is
that you're watching throughout sports?
Who's the most jealous person right now?
I mean, you don't think it's hard for Jason
to watch his brother continue to win Super Bowls?
Really?
He has a late night talk show.
Who imagined any of this for Jason Kelsey?
You'd think, oh, he's like, oh, I wish I was still
getting my head bashed in.
Hell no.
Why are we, like, 10 days away from the Super Bowl
wondering who's jealous of each other?
I'll tell you who's jealous.
I'm jealous of Jason Kelsey.
This guy gets a late night talk show?
Come on, man. And we're starting to find out he's not, wasn't even that good at his job. I'm jealous of Jason Kelsey. This guy gets a late night talk show?
Come on, man.
And we're starting to find out he's not,
wasn't even that good at his job.
I don't think we're starting to find that out.
I think Saquon Barkley makes a pretty substantive difference.
It's like if I take off.
A tush push, we thought it was all Jason.
I don't know.
I would argue, perhaps I'd be wrong,
but I would argue that whatever diminishment there is
between Kelsey and his replacement
is not as great as whatever the addition is
between Barkley and what it is
that the Eagles had it running back last year.
That's not how you, if you're the greatest of all time
and there's no diminishment,
aren't you the greatest of all time?
That's why I'm asterisk guy!
There you go.
There he is.
Just hope he locked in some of these media deals long term, you know what I mean?
Tyreek Hill though gets his money, Stu Gantz.
Yep.
And doesn't get the winning.
Now, but when he explains his frustration after the season
where he pops off and he's like, I'm out of here,
and he's saying, I've always won, I only know how to win.
We've talked before, man, that game really hurts
under all circumstances, but it hurts more when you lose.
He's won once, by the way. I only know how to win. We've talked before, man, that game really hurts under all circumstances, but it hurts more when you lose.
Yeah, he's won once, by the way.
Well, but he not only won once, Dugats,
I remember the quote, we can win six, seven, eight,
and they might, and you'll be one of them.
It'll be hard to explain in retrospect.
Like, it's like saying Wes Welker played with
Peyton Manning and Tom Brady and never won a Super Bowl.
Right.
You're like, how did that happen?
It's like saying the Eagles kept going to Super Bowls
and Jason Kelsey was doing late night TV.
Well, if you think that that's the same satisfaction,
I understand, I mean, but it isn't, right?
Success off the field in retirement.
All of these guys will tell you that nothing feels
like winning a championship with those people.
Like you will never replicate it anywhere in retirement.
This has to be killing Jason Kelsey.
Not only seeing his brother continue to play
in a high level, going for another Super Bowl,
but his former team, he's a year removed from that team.
To see that team have this kind of success without him
has to be killing Jason Kelsey.
He'll never admit it, but it has to be.
I'm with you right there.
Yes.
He's like, oh, I'm Travis, I'm so jealous.
No, it's not.
Travis is always gonna be on a team that wins all the time.
Right.
It's the idea that, man, that team, you know how it is.
You know how it is, Dan, when you're not on the show,
you're like, watch the show mess up.
I gotta come back and save the show
because it falls apart when I'm gone.
But then you watch and it's like oh the show is amazing without me that
doesn't feel good you want to feel you think Dan's projecting right now
absolutely absolutely I would he's not here I would love I would love for you
guys to do a year of shows where I didn't have to come then you could do a
six weeks I mean you took a sabbatical then you can do a year of shows where I didn't have to come. Then you could do a late night. I did six weeks, I mean, you took a sabbatical.
Then you could do a late night talk show.
We had fun this summer.
I mean, you were there weren't you?
I was there, yes.
Replacement Dan, remember?
Yeah.
Step Dan, substitute Dan.
I knew you were Step Dan.
A lot of great bits, but Dan was watching like,
oh my God, they're going to another Super Bowl.
I've gotta get back there!
You wanna do it now?
I'm happy to go for breakfast.
You wanna do Substitute?
I'll go with you.
You wanna do Substitute Dan now?
I'm playing with a guy who's hurt, I'm hurt,
and you've gotta busted up face still
from falling after the Christmas party.
We can do a solo shot right now.
I don't know what he's talking about.
The only thing I have is my tooth.
Has anyone else thought this?
Has anyone else thought?
I think some people make choices in their lives
and their careers that they actually feel satisfied
and confident by, and those aren't interesting
to talk about on a show, I agree with that.
But he's probably doing fine.
He's got a great, happy family from what we can tell.
And seems like a happy guy.
He was talking about a means face.
I was also talking about Tyree Kill.
It became about just i have seen healthy but but tyree kill uh... look man
i he he went for money like this is right now in the middle of what it is
that you see on
jimmy butler and what is joy and what is happiness and how it is that business
is always getting in the way of art
like i ask you guys this question
to think about it seriously. I know Tyreek
Hill makes a lot of money. Of course he does. He's also going to need it because he's reckless
and he's got a lot of responsibilities and children. And so he came here and he got his
money. But what do you think he feels watching on television? Do you think he can watch the
games without feeling to know all
that team doesn't even have a great receiver that team has a great tight end
and what we did making it look easy I asked you guys as he chose something
thinking it would be better and then initially it was he got stardom that he
didn't get in Kansas City but you don don't think i recall looks at not only jason kelsey and travis kelsey
and is like
look at all of what they get cuz they get to be playing games now that matters
to be honest and i i can't really get inside terry kills head
for you right now
none of that
first of all he left
the start of the got the thing we got the money and at left, he got the stardom, he got the fame, he got the money, and at the beginning, he got the winning.
There was a feeling of, and this is what every athlete wants,
number one, every pro athlete,
number one, they wanna get paid.
Number two, they wanna win.
Number three, and all of these are separated
by a hair margin.
They want, hold on.
I think number three is higher than number two.
They're winning because of me.
That's correct.
I think that's number one. I think that's number one
I think no, no, no, no, no, it's pretty close. It's pretty close
Number one is the money number one is always the money
All right, I mean you want to win because of me. I would say it's almost always the money
But I want to win because of me is a very strong urge in sports. Absolutely. And so Tyreek Hill started to get all those feelings.
Even if they didn't win and the Chiefs went to the Super Bowl,
I think in his mind after year one, it's like,
this was a good move.
The Dolphins are good because of me.
Because of me. Everyone's recognizing my impact.
People are talking about me. Sorry.
I mean, they're talking about me in a way they never talked about me
when I was with Kansas City.
As one of the best players in the NFL.
And never would.
It's the same reason Kyrie Irving left Cleveland,
because he understood, no matter how many we win here,
I'm always gonna be LeBron's little brother,
people are gonna ask me if I look at LeBron
like a father figure and all those weird questions.
No, no, hold on.
He was thought of so highly when he left the Chiefs
that you guys were like, oh, the dolphins are going to win
a million Super Bowls now.
I feel like your guys ability to remember things
that happened like two years ago, it's crazy.
It's like it happened like 45 years ago.
You have no memory of 2022 at all.
Welcome to the show Jess.
It's somewhere in the middle though, right?
Because like Tyree Kill wasn't voted the number one player
by the NFL players in the NFL when he was in Kansas City.
And when he was in Kansas City, everyone knew he was good,
but they didn't say Patrick Mahomes was made by Tyree Kill
the way they were saying the Dolphins,
Tua only is good because of Tyree Kill.
So he was well regarded in Kansas City.
However, when he came here
because of his quarterbacking situation,
he did get another level of respect and credit
for the way the team was playing.
And to some extent, you saw this year,
he was not the same and the team wasn't as good now too,
obviously missed four games also,
but you saw what the team wasn't with Tyreek Hill
when he wasn't there.
Yeah, but wasn't Dan also one of the people
that was like, good luck Patrick Mahomes without Tyree Kill?
Or am I just inventing that take from two years ago?
Yeah, but we realized real quickly,
like Patrick Mahomes was good without Tyree Kill.
Tyree Kill was ranked the number 15 player in the NFL
his final season with the Chiefs.
So I know from 15 to one is a giant gap.
But it is, I'm serious.
He had his best two years.
His first two years with the Dolphins
are his best two years by a lot.
And look up also on that thing.
Sure, he's the only target.
Where's Patrick Mahomes on that list?
Yeah.
Because I'm sure he's probably ahead of Tyree Kill.
So he would get the credit
for why it is that the team was good.
Yeah, see?
Look it up, look it up, Jeremy.
Do your research.
I'm not saying look it up.
I'm just saying he goes from being one of the guys to the guy and the reason why they're so good in many
People's eyes. I think it's pretty clear that what he sought when he left Kansas City
He got yeah, it's just the last year plus is kind of not gone according to plan
And so I don't I know we probably says on and sucks get me out of here
i don't think if you told him have you do it all over
he thought justin kansas city be one of the guys
i don't think he thinks that i think that he was the third most famous person
in kansas city and third most responsible for the success he was
however before through the lawyers however the most responsible for the success he was however,
he was however the most responsible for the fact
that that used to be a big play offense
and what Mahomes has become since then
is someone who can't do that down the field.
And in the category of do you appreciate things more
when you get further from them,
I'm sure Kyrie Irving now thinks differently
about some of the LeBron James things.
And what I'm asking you guys to explore is,
how is Tyreek now realizing for perhaps the first time,
oh, not bulletproof, can't just get a thousand yards
by being out there.
Oh, I don't just win and now I'm 30.
And the job is to be faster than everyone else
for the rest of my career and I'm 30. And I'm just asking you guys if you think at any point he makes the register of
Yeah, I cashed in
However, but I've got some solace
I've got I need some solace because I need comfort from the fact that I made a bad decision
I made a decision that supported something then but I didn't realize how hard winning actually is.
I don't think he made a bad decision if you were to ask him
because he got a contract that he wouldn't get
and he already won a Super Bowl.
It's not like he never won.
He had the Super Bowl, that's good, yes.
He had the Super Bowl, he got the contract
that he sought out and I don't think he does solace.
And also he told us that he's coming back next year
faster than this year, so.
He's coming back at 30 faster than ever.
I mean, what would he regret?
Like the way the sport works is that if you're good,
you usually don't stay with the same place
unless you're the only good player.
Like that's how it's set up.
So like, I doubt he regrets his decision.
Like I don't think Christian Wilkins regrets
going to Las Vegas and getting the money
that he wasn't gonna get here.
I don't think Kyrie Irving necessarily regrets his decision,
but when he looks back on it,
he has a different appreciation in its absence than he had
before. This is something Tyree Killen would have never learned there. He could
have been there, won, and felt underpaid the entire time because he would have
never gotten to test his ego on what it is that it was here where he was the
number one guy. He was the guy responsible for turning two into a
quarterback and a McDaniel into a genius everybody was
celebrating that this was his team he wasn't number three here he wasn't the
third most famous guy he was the guy and the reason for winning you know point
right these decisions are hard to make in the moment but I think just about
everyone with the exception of Michael Jordan looks back at their career and
says hey I could have done something differently so to that point it succeeded but he
wanted out at the end of the season because that one time the turmoil
arrived
it felt like garbage to him and it was something foreign to him can we play the
sound of troy ackman
uh... talking about michael urvin in the nfc championship game urban told us a
story one time of being in the super bowl in some form of this kind of story
where he's running after someone else who's on his team who has the football
screaming at him that that was his super bowl touchdown let's hear what
a kman had to say that was in the uh... nfc championship game our first one in
the ninety two season and we have called this play
it was uh... uh... eight ninety six f-lad in
the six was a pearl route and uh... the eight was the skinny post and and
michael had been running the skinny post the entire game and i'd never thrown it
and he had been running the curl or alvin harper had been running the curl
and based on coverage every time we call that play in the game
uh... it it pretty much went to alvin harper and so they're late in the game we call eight play in the game, it pretty much went to Alvin Harper. And so there late
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line up where he thought the ball was going to go. And so he told Alvin, hey, you run
the post, I'm going to run the curl because that's where he thought it would be thrown
again.
What's interesting about that is that I think because Michael went to run the curl, it created the coverage that we ultimately got. I don't know that we
would have gotten the same look if Michael was the one running that route,
but you know Alvin catches the ball and Michael believes that he would have been
the guy getting it had he not told Alvin to change position. Yes, he was running down
the field screaming that, you know, he was happy as he could be.
It was not a selfish act on his part, but he was screaming that that was his ball and
it should have been him making that play.
Michael Irvin says he was just screaming and it wasn't happy.
That's my touchdown.
Michael Irvin has the rare ability to be happy while screaming.
He does.
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Don LeBataard, I actually thought you looked kind of good. Stugats!
I have the beards grown out a little bit. I got a little life in my face, I feel like.
A little tan, Colorado, San Francisco. I had a great time.
You got life on your face. You got death on your face!
I think you got 40 to life on your face.
This is the Don LeBata Show with the StuGats. I think that it is hard to place the ego of sports and the general selfishness of people
inside of the team concept once you've turned it into business.
Yeah, I mean, it's like relationships, right?
It's like marriage, right?
Every human has two innate urges in them, right,
that are contradictory.
Number one, I'm independent, I do everything myself.
I'm the boss, I do this, whatever.
And number two is, I wanna be a part
of something bigger than me.
And sports is like the ultimate training ground for that,
where it's like, unless you're tennis or track
or something like that, you want the credit,
you want people to look at you as the reason for success.
But also, you want to be part of something,
you want to have teammates, you want to have people
that lift you up and you want to lift other people up
and have that kind of comradery going.
And so, Dan, what you're asking is,
at the root of all of this,
what does Tyrick Hill, by way of example,
what does he want?
And I think what he wants is kind of what he sought.
He sought, eh, to get compensated.
What is commensurate?
What have I done?
I would say once at all.
I would say when you ask, what does he want?
I would say-
The money and the winning.
All of it, all of it.
But the winning because of me.
Well no, your points are good.
And so, my fault.
And so, he never was gonna get,
it's like James Harden in Oklahoma City.
How many would have he won?
They would have won 100.
He never would have been MVP.
He never would have had deals, endorsement deals.
He never would have been looked at
the way we look at him now.
It's like Kobe and Shaq. I mean coby is said that the two titles he
won without shak were way more important to why because he was the reason they
won those titles
when he did it with shack everyone was at which act was going to be a wish act
was done he wasn't getting one hundred percent of the credit when he did it
without shack he was getting all absolutely and here's the deal when it
comes to any of these guys cuz same reason why they can take this call up
all come back to the nuggets white bruce brown come back to nuggets
i want one like if you'd never want what i get it i gotta stay here with this is
closely once you win
site man like let me take care of me let me get paid the way i should be a
big let me get the credit i should get
why we talk about Tyre Kill?
It's Dan's fault.
I'm just yes-handing.
Yes, Dan.
He should go to Buffalo.
Oh man.
Yeah, I mean.
That one.
That's how you do it.
Good idea, Chris.
All together, right?
Yes, Spags.
Tyre Kill.
The band is back together.
Since you mentioned Spags, and now we've got Spags against Fang kill. The band is back together. Well, since you mentioned Spags,
and now we've got Spags against Fangs in the Super Bowl,
can you guys please get for me,
because Warren Sharp is out here,
and Warren Sharp, my God,
does this guy dive deep, deep into the numbers.
And he got to this take later than God bless football,
later than Stu Gotz and Billy Gill, and I don't know if Billy wants to accuse him of stealing this take later than God bless football later than Stu got to and Billy Gill and I don't know if Billy wants to
Accused him of stealing this well, we stole it from Bill Barnwell
So okay, but you stole it first and you stole it better because you were there before Warren Sharp and
You said that fixing the Buffalo Bills in two easy steps would be fire Sean McDermott
higher your boy spags buffalo bills into easy steps would be fire sean mcdermott higher
your voice bags and i want to know how god bless football feels about uh...
this uh... this this stealing although billy really undermine me as he's capable
of doing before i even got started by saying that the you guys stole it first
i have to be honest i did not steal it from bill barnwell i didn't hear him say
it i didn't read anything
that he wrote.
Billy, you may have stolen it, but I came in
with a fresh thought that morning.
I literally pitched it to you on air,
and you said that's a good idea.
And then you came to this show, and I guess forgot
that I did it to you five minutes before.
So you stole it from Bill.
Yeah, no, but I credited him on the front end.
That's nice of you.
Don't do that next time.
Yeah, by the time it gets to Stugats,
it becomes his idea.
No, but this is how it's been happening for years.
The whole thing's been happening exactly as you just described it.
You on your platform said the thing correctly and sourced it, and then Stu Gotz, it became
his idea, and he gets mad at Warren Sharp when he says, Warren Sharp stole my idea.
That's how it's been happening for 20 years.
Well, Chris also in here accused someone
of stealing the idea from him
when he in fact stole it from Jess
without realizing he stole it from Jess just that day.
I didn't hear Bill say it,
but Bill's like not usually doing like super complex bits,
but he was, I assume, joking about it.
I wanna make it clear that we are all being
100% serious about it.
Thank you.
Was he joking about it?
Uh, I'm not gonna listen back. Wait, no, if he's joking about it, I'm with you. If he% serious about it. Thank you. Was he joking about it? Uh, I'm not gonna listen back.
Wait, no, if he's joking about it, I'm with you.
If he's joking about it,
then he just gave up any ownership to it.
Bill Parkwell does not joke about football.
He was half joking about it.
He does, he does.
He does not joke about football.
No, but it means right, it doesn't count.
If he was, even half joking, it doesn't count.
No, we're all serious.
If he's dead serious, then it's yours.
How do you guys feel about stolen goods?
Are you dead serious about them? Well, here's my question. Then they're yours. How do you guys feel about stolen goods? Are you dead serious about them?
Well, here's my question.
Then they're yours.
I had a conversation out there before and I was like,
look, I'm not one to steal,
but also I don't ask where certain things come from.
You know what I mean?
Like if someone steals something
and then they gift it to me, I didn't steal it.
So I don't know if you guys feel the same way.
I feel like it's still probably a crime.
To be clear, I don't have stolen goods.
It was just a conversation.
Hypothetically.
That you know of.
Yeah, exactly.
That I know of because I don't ask.
Depends on the level, right?
Like let's say this jacket, for example.
Yeah, a jacket.
Literally this jacket.
So what?
Maybe it was in a box at Radio Row last year.
Wasn't intended for me, but I asked someone,
hey, how does one get one of those jackets?
And then they snuck it over to me and put it in my backpack.
I'm glad that you brought up Radio Row, Billy.
Put these things on the poll, please, Juju.
Does Tyrick Hill do solace?
I have an update on Bill, by the way.
He tweeted this, according to Taylor.
I don't actually think that Bill should hire Spags
as their head coach, but I do think
it's a perfect debate show opinion.
So he's basically giving us permission to steal it.
Free play.
Does Bill Barnwell joke about football
is the other poll question at Levitard Show
because I had the same reaction that Chris did
when they were like, maybe Bill Barnwell was joking.
It was like, what are you talking about?
No, I said I doubt he was joking.
That was not what I said.
Yes, thank you.
Not about something so serious that bill joke about anything
Stand down a stress guy is here
I couldn't see that actually he told you to stand down
Media members always in Australia media members who look like they go to the Ren Fair,
I'm here for this game.
If you're always going to Australia,
someone should ask questions.
Also, this is a bad week to joke about football.
I don't know if you guys have seen
some of the analysis discourse out there,
but there's threats going on.
It's a dark, dirty place right now on the internet.
Threats, you say?
Really? Oh yeah.
It is today.
Ryan Leif took things to a weird place the other day.
It was really weird.
Wow. All right. Put it on the poll at LeBotard Show.
Has Ryan Leaf taken the internet to a darker place at LeBotard Show?
Hey, staple on Radio Row, Billy. Ryan Leaf.
Well, I'm glad you guys mentioned Radio Row because I've seen-
Super broadway down the house.
Oh, Stugots, look. Stugots may be sick today. Stugots may be hurting at the end of a football season where he is alleged, radio row because i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i with Spags. He is building a god-blessed football empire with Billy and he's tired.
And the season's about to end and we got a lot of people worried because Radio Row isn't a bit of
an adventure for us the last few years and it's been hard, but Jenny was looking around and a
little bit scared about what next week foretells and with his waddle swagger,
Stu Gotts is like, this is the most reliable Stu Gotts
there is.
Radio Rose Stu Gotts.
Radio Rose Stu Gotts, there is no one more prepared
for this, this is a holiday for Stu Gotts.
This week, Billy, you're ready to own the entire thing.
That's definitely his opinion of how Radio Road goes, is he's the most reliable no one more reliable. Well no
I love it the point I was making to Jenny is that's the place I'll show up three hours
early I'll be there it's a content factory for me Billy you know that. But you won't
be on your set you'll be walking around. That's kind of the thing we're up against a deadline
we need to record a segment.
We only have 20 minutes.
I gotta go for a heater.
Listen, we don't need to rush this.
Let's just wait for people to appear.
It's like, we only have 19 minutes left on this set.
It's like, ah, don't worry about it.
Next thing you know, he's cutting it up with Baldinger.
No, next thing you know, he's talking to Ryan Leaf
and bringing him over for an interview
and promising that he's gonna get him
into the Lake Tahoe Tournament.
And then the interview never airs
and he doesn't end up in the Lake Tahoe Tournament.
I still have to get on that for two years.
Next year, we come back, and Ryan Leaf is on set again,
because he's promising him the exact same things.
Yep, every year.
Yep.
Rinse, repeat.
I know we're going to see Ryan Leaf this year.
Listen, you walk down.
You take a stroll down the aisle, Radio Row.
And if you walk into Jim Rome and have a five minute
conversation, that means I'm five minutes late.
I'm sorry.
There's nothing I can do.
That's what the Super Bowl's all about.
That's what Radio Row is all about.
I'll have a 20 minute conversation
about nothing with Mad Dog.
I mean, it's amazing.
Yeah, but off air when we're up against the deadline,
and I will say this, no one at,
and Stu, I'll take this as a compliment,
because it's intended this way.
Thank you.
No one is better at Radio Row of figuring out how to leave,
is better at Radio Row of figuring out how to leave,
go outside, smoke, and make it back through security with five minutes than Stu got.
How he gets in and out of security so quickly
to go smoke and do whatever it is that he's up to outside.
That's letting the ground work, that's front end work.
I befriend all these security guys,
I bring them coffee every morning.
They'll be in and out whenever I want.
I smoke indoors.
You know we've been there.
That's probably true.
Bringing coffee.
Never once have you brought coffee.
Not a...
Billy, what is true?
Like, okay.
None of it.
Not a word.
No, the smoking inside.
Billy, Billy, I want to explore this, okay?
Because you don't want to explore this?
No, I feel like Tyreek Hill now.
I can't wait.
It's gonna be so much fun.
Let's explore.
I'm framing Stugatz as reliable Stugatz
during the Super Bowl because he's legitimately excited,
as he is every year about Radio Row.
I am under no illusion that that's because
he is working the entire time. It is because he's working year about Radio Row. I am under no illusion that that's because he is working the entire time.
It is because he's working it the entire time.
He's doing Stugatz finger guns all over the place
and this is where Stugatz gets to be
the most famous version of himself
in the middle of sports importance.
Yeah, yeah, I love it.
This is how he knows all the local affiliate call letters.
I'm always amazed when Stugatsa wkrp and
No, but it largely amounts to nothing. I guess is kind of like that time would be better spent doing anything
But really we are paying for schmoozing. I know he's not bringing in anyone everyone else is booking these people
He's just walking around glad handing promising people hits. He's gonna do that. He does
Other types of hits it is a year old yes it's just him
just talking to agent it's just like that's is I'm not doing actual content
here I'm making relationships why do y'all think they say yes like what show
is it don't say yes to him oh yeah the guy that brought the coffee and was
hanging out with me I want I want to go to and Buffalo are going to have a big week next week.
I want to get to the bottom of this, but I want you to understand we are very much headed
into Stu Gatz's adult prom.
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