The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Dan "The Asterisk Guy" and Tyreek Hill's Jealousy

Episode Date: January 29, 2025

Dan is a big-time asterisk guy according to Amin, and Billy is celebrating National Curmudgeon Day. Then, is fandom more fun when you're shutting people up? And is Tyreek Hill jealous of what's happen...ing in Kansas City even though he's received more money and praise since he left? Plus, Stugotz stole a take from Billy who stole it from Bill Barnwell who was kidding, but Chris stole the same take from Jessica who was definitely not kidding. Also, is radio row Stugotz the most reliable Stugotz? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:57 [♪ music playing. A&M theme song playing. [♪ music playing. By way of good morning, Amin opens by insulting me. He flies in on a red eye. We've got a crew here that's hurting a little bit because Stugatz is sick. We don't know if he's gonna make it during the show. I'm sick, bad time to get sick before the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:02:22 I believe that Stugatz would argue that football did this to him. I think that would be the official diagnosis from Dr. McDaniel. We have a mean over here, and his face still doesn't look right from that fall after the holiday party. There's something that doesn't look quite right about his face, but the way that he comes in here
Starting point is 00:02:40 and insults me by half of, outside of half of his swollen limp, is he comes in here and insults me by half of, outside of half of his swollen limp is he comes in here and he says, Dan, you're an asterisk guy. Hmm. You're an asterisk guy. Right, what do you mean by that? It's a big asterisk guy. Really?
Starting point is 00:02:55 Yeah, huge. That can mean so many things. Right. So this topic is actually a couple weeks old from the regular season. You talk about Saquon Barkley, and you were saying if he had played that last game and broke the record, should be an
Starting point is 00:03:08 asterisk because he did in 17 games. I didn't say there should be an asterisk. I just said that it's not the same to do it in 17 games as it is to do it in 16 games or do it in 14 games. How could you possibly disagree with that, though? He's right. I'm not disagreeing. I'm saying that's an asterisk guy.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Okay, that's a context. What is an aster'm saying that's an asterisk guy. Okay, all right. That's a context, so what is, is an asterisk context, is an asterisk pejorative? I think of an asterisk as neutral, benign. Pejorative, I mean. But then you're also missing the context of I think he's done it in less carries. So it's an extra game, but it's less opportunities to do so.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Second asterisk. But I'm just saying it's a nullified asterisk because you're saying that oh, he had more opportunities but he actually had less in more time. You gotta put that second asterisk on there because the asterisk is at the bottom where you look it up in the footnotes. Is this where you start getting like a little two plus sign?
Starting point is 00:03:56 Like what the hell is that? Even on the keyboard? Exactly. That's confusing. Keyboards have been simplified but complicated. Yeah. You know what I mean? Before like they were a lot longer
Starting point is 00:04:06 and then they had that secondary number pad and then all the little tildes and stuff on top. It was easy to find things. Now it's like there's however many keys, there are 34 keys or whatever. You can't find half of the stuff that goes out in print. You don't know where people get that from, how they get it on there.
Starting point is 00:04:22 I don't know. I can't even, before I used to just be able to, when I took Mario Teach's typing, and I learned in, you know, Wii, second grade or whatever, how to type my Q-W-E-R-T-Ys, you know what I mean? When I was doing that, ASD, FG, all of that stuff, right? I knew Alt 164 was this, Alt 132 was that. I don't even know where Alt is anymore.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Don't write, but I don't even know where alt is anymore. I'm gonna tell you right now Billy. It's on the right, but I don't know where it is on the keyboard. You're an old man, because nobody uses keyboards like in the early 21st century. Oh, I'm typing on it. Use it on your phone. You know how I get to all those weird symbols?
Starting point is 00:04:58 You hold the letters down and then a menu pops up. And if I want an O with two dots on it, if I want an Enya over my N, all of that's on my phone keyboard. I'm not out here trying. Enya. That's a fine, bad mouth fine. Enya, not Enya.
Starting point is 00:05:13 What'd I say? Two dollars. You said Enya. That's what I was talking about. I was talking about the band. If you hold down the N, the song comes out. It is National Carmudgeon Day. Billy is an old man.
Starting point is 00:05:26 He's been an old man since he came out of the womb. And I want to know how the group feels in general about both the asterisk and the footnote because I'm not again, I'm not again the asterisk. I'm for the asterisk. I think the asterisk, if you want to give me more information that gives context to what it is that I asterisk, I think the asterisk, if you wanna give me more information that gives context to what it is that I've just read,
Starting point is 00:05:48 I would like more context. We'll get to that in a second. Billy's objecting in my headsets to you calling him an old man. I thought he said a meme was an old man. He's been so out of the womb, and then it came at me. Billy, it's National Kermudgeon Day. When I think of Kermudgeons around here
Starting point is 00:06:02 who don't wanna see anybody, you just argued on behalf of life is better lived under house arrest. Oh, he's right. Well, I mean, when you see the people I see, you wouldn't disagree with me. Well, but that makes it seem... There's people I like to see, just not the ones I'm seeing. This is... your life, though, is something that you continue to make smaller and smaller, and you basically don't want you you live your life
Starting point is 00:06:26 Within a very small radius on purpose because you don't want to interact with others I I believe that that is the that is the behavior of the curmudgeon Okay Good circles Do you yeah tight circles Jessica? Do you have any opinions about the footnote? How do you guys, well, I'm not gonna turn to Stu Gotts and ask him how he feels about the footnote, but the asterisk to me is welcome.
Starting point is 00:06:53 I don't have any issues with the asterisk. I prefer when the footnote is on the page that I'm reading and not when I'm reading a dense book in the footnote is all the way at the end, because I'm not gonna flip that many pages to the end. Also, I thought Enya was a Irish singer, not a band. Is that another find for me? Is it not a band?
Starting point is 00:07:10 Does she have a band also called Enya? It's like Sade, I thought. Like where Sade is the name of the lead singer, but it's also the name of the band. So it could be both? I think it's both. I wanna get some sound here. Nick Wright's gonna join us later
Starting point is 00:07:23 and he's really trying to actively push paul rod and eric stone street out of the way for number one chiefs fan in america he's doing the chiefs no favor uh... favors because like i mean saying why is nick wright being on with us mallie has been here in nick wright on television mallie in the other room and he's been screaming and yelling that he wants to punch him in the face because nick wright is affecting his mental health because he's been screaming and yelling that he wants to punch him in the face because nick right is affecting his mental health because he's listening to too much nick right but eric stone street is mad at adam schafter and basically it this is what's happening between chiefs fans in
Starting point is 00:07:55 the rest of the country right now well it's because there's going to be a game don't get mired down in adam schafter's we don't need his favorite he's going to be called out patrick behomes in his tweet like patrick is favoring the Chiefs. I mean, he calls out Patrick Mahomes in his tweet, like Patrick Mahomes is the only one on the beneficiary end of a roughing the passer call. He's got the biggest reach in all the NFL. And here he's out implying and furthering this conspiracy
Starting point is 00:08:17 that the league is rigging the game against us. Here's the deal. I love football. I love it all. I don't, I hate that stuff. And here's what I also am. I'm pro freedom of speech. I'm pro freedom of thought. You can think if you're watching this, the league rigs it against the Chiefs. I support your thought process in that. But I think
Starting point is 00:08:39 the one place that they wouldn't want that applied is Adam Schefter tweeting to all of his followers saying, yep, the NFL, it sure seems like they're rigging the game for the Chiefs. It's like, that, whatever. It is amazing how much Eric Stonestreet looks like Andy Reid behind him. It would appear to you that that photograph was a self-portrait in his home when you look at how much he looks like Andy Reid there. The thing that's happening with the Chiefs, Stugatz,
Starting point is 00:09:14 it's unbelievably stupid, and yet the math supports it when you just look at penalties, if that's all you're looking at. If I were a Chiefs fan, I would be so mad right now that people are trying to dilute and diminish my excellence by making it always about something other than their excellence. If I were a Chiefs fan, I would not be paying attention
Starting point is 00:09:37 to any other fan base and what they have to say about my football team. It's all the fan bases, it's not a fan base. No, I understand that, but my team is going for a third consecutive Super Bowl. I don't care what it is you have to say. Stugatz, you are not invested in this if that's what you're doing, because fandom loves
Starting point is 00:09:53 to complain about all of the other people who aren't giving us enough credit. You are detached from this in a way that's unemotional. No, Dan, I love to complain about, you know, when the Patriots were going through it, Brady was getting all the calls. But you're asking me, if I were love to complain about, you know, when the Patriots were going through it, Brady was getting all the calls. But you're asking me, if I were a Chiefs fan, would I care about all the outside noise?
Starting point is 00:10:10 And the answer is no. Yeah, I don't think that you represent Chiefs fans in any way right now. I mean, Chief Kingdom, I went to the game, home opener. Fandom is more fun when you're mad at somebody and then get to shut them up or not shut them up. Hear their whimpering complaints. Like, it makes it more fun if everyone is trying to take something away from you. When I fully I believe we're all sitting here saying my God, my homes is awesome.
Starting point is 00:10:34 The whole erasing of Brady's memory is something that's happened pretty fast in that sport, hasn't it? And then I think I can translate what's happening here. See Stu Gotts is a Jets fan, right? And part and parcel of Jets fan, right? And part and parcel of Jets fandom is always hating your team internally. There's an internal kind of masochistic self-dislike that you have as a Jets fan.
Starting point is 00:10:55 So Stugatz is just merely transposing, well, if the Jets had the success that the Chiefs had, oh, I wouldn't care. But the reality is Stugatz would care, but in a different way. He wouldn't be like, everyone's hating on us, like Chiefs fans care. But the reality is Stugatz would care but in a different way. He wouldn't be like everyone's hating on us like Chiefs fans and people from the Midwest do. Stugatz would be like, oh these guys how are they gonna mess it up? How are they not gonna win three in a row? That's what we even,
Starting point is 00:11:14 they just could win seven in a row and Stugatz would still on number eight be worried about how they're gonna mess it all up because they're the Jets. This is a message from sponsor Intuit Turbo Tax. Taxes was waiting and wondering and worrying if you were going to get any money back and then waiting, wondering and worrying some more. Now, Taxes is matching with a Turbo Tax expert who can do your taxes as soon as today. An expert who gives your taxes their undivided attention
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Starting point is 00:12:19 It's too much at the top everyone with a toy where he plays more than you do. Stugats. I always like leaving a tan on. I hate the chicken. Because he's so vulnerable, I just unfairly fade down the chicken to just leave him by himself. This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats. You guys do understand. Just make it about yourselves, it's not that hard. Your favorite team, it wins and everyone's talking about the refs and the games are fixed.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Like you'll eat some of that up, you'll eat some of it up because beating that out of other fan bases, beating the respect out of everybody that refuses to give it to you stubbornly because they're sitting there calling it refs and then you win the next year and then you win the next year. And it makes me ask the question to all of you, I know he got his money, but Tyreek Hill's awfully jealous right now, is he not?
Starting point is 00:13:16 Because they just win every time. He said when he was there, we can win seven or eight, they can without you. Like you got your money. You got your money, but you feel what it's like not to make the playoffs for 24 not to win a playoff game for 24 years you enter that building right you get your money you get your stardom and at the end of the season you want to leave because you're so frustrated because you're saying all I know how to do is win. They kept doing it there like I'm I was trying to
Starting point is 00:13:41 think of who's more jealous of whom where when you watch everything that's happening throughout the sport. Is Jason Kelsey jealous of Travis? Because Travis gets to keep playing? Like who is jealous where on what it is that you're watching throughout sports? Who's the most jealous person right now? I mean, you don't think it's hard for Jason
Starting point is 00:14:03 to watch his brother continue to win Super Bowls? Really? He has a late night talk show. Who imagined any of this for Jason Kelsey? You'd think, oh, he's like, oh, I wish I was still getting my head bashed in. Hell no. Why are we, like, 10 days away from the Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:14:17 wondering who's jealous of each other? I'll tell you who's jealous. I'm jealous of Jason Kelsey. This guy gets a late night talk show? Come on, man. And we're starting to find out he's not, wasn't even that good at his job. I'm jealous of Jason Kelsey. This guy gets a late night talk show? Come on, man. And we're starting to find out he's not, wasn't even that good at his job.
Starting point is 00:14:29 I don't think we're starting to find that out. I think Saquon Barkley makes a pretty substantive difference. It's like if I take off. A tush push, we thought it was all Jason. I don't know. I would argue, perhaps I'd be wrong, but I would argue that whatever diminishment there is between Kelsey and his replacement
Starting point is 00:14:47 is not as great as whatever the addition is between Barkley and what it is that the Eagles had it running back last year. That's not how you, if you're the greatest of all time and there's no diminishment, aren't you the greatest of all time? That's why I'm asterisk guy! There you go.
Starting point is 00:15:02 There he is. Just hope he locked in some of these media deals long term, you know what I mean? Tyreek Hill though gets his money, Stu Gantz. Yep. And doesn't get the winning. Now, but when he explains his frustration after the season where he pops off and he's like, I'm out of here, and he's saying, I've always won, I only know how to win.
Starting point is 00:15:19 We've talked before, man, that game really hurts under all circumstances, but it hurts more when you lose. He's won once, by the way. I only know how to win. We've talked before, man, that game really hurts under all circumstances, but it hurts more when you lose. Yeah, he's won once, by the way. Well, but he not only won once, Dugats, I remember the quote, we can win six, seven, eight, and they might, and you'll be one of them. It'll be hard to explain in retrospect.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Like, it's like saying Wes Welker played with Peyton Manning and Tom Brady and never won a Super Bowl. Right. You're like, how did that happen? It's like saying the Eagles kept going to Super Bowls and Jason Kelsey was doing late night TV. Well, if you think that that's the same satisfaction, I understand, I mean, but it isn't, right?
Starting point is 00:15:59 Success off the field in retirement. All of these guys will tell you that nothing feels like winning a championship with those people. Like you will never replicate it anywhere in retirement. This has to be killing Jason Kelsey. Not only seeing his brother continue to play in a high level, going for another Super Bowl, but his former team, he's a year removed from that team.
Starting point is 00:16:19 To see that team have this kind of success without him has to be killing Jason Kelsey. He'll never admit it, but it has to be. I'm with you right there. Yes. He's like, oh, I'm Travis, I'm so jealous. No, it's not. Travis is always gonna be on a team that wins all the time.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Right. It's the idea that, man, that team, you know how it is. You know how it is, Dan, when you're not on the show, you're like, watch the show mess up. I gotta come back and save the show because it falls apart when I'm gone. But then you watch and it's like oh the show is amazing without me that doesn't feel good you want to feel you think Dan's projecting right now
Starting point is 00:16:52 absolutely absolutely I would he's not here I would love I would love for you guys to do a year of shows where I didn't have to come then you could do a six weeks I mean you took a sabbatical then you can do a year of shows where I didn't have to come. Then you could do a late night. I did six weeks, I mean, you took a sabbatical. Then you could do a late night talk show. We had fun this summer. I mean, you were there weren't you? I was there, yes. Replacement Dan, remember?
Starting point is 00:17:14 Yeah. Step Dan, substitute Dan. I knew you were Step Dan. A lot of great bits, but Dan was watching like, oh my God, they're going to another Super Bowl. I've gotta get back there! You wanna do it now? I'm happy to go for breakfast.
Starting point is 00:17:26 You wanna do Substitute? I'll go with you. You wanna do Substitute Dan now? I'm playing with a guy who's hurt, I'm hurt, and you've gotta busted up face still from falling after the Christmas party. We can do a solo shot right now. I don't know what he's talking about.
Starting point is 00:17:39 The only thing I have is my tooth. Has anyone else thought this? Has anyone else thought? I think some people make choices in their lives and their careers that they actually feel satisfied and confident by, and those aren't interesting to talk about on a show, I agree with that. But he's probably doing fine.
Starting point is 00:17:53 He's got a great, happy family from what we can tell. And seems like a happy guy. He was talking about a means face. I was also talking about Tyree Kill. It became about just i have seen healthy but but tyree kill uh... look man i he he went for money like this is right now in the middle of what it is that you see on jimmy butler and what is joy and what is happiness and how it is that business
Starting point is 00:18:18 is always getting in the way of art like i ask you guys this question to think about it seriously. I know Tyreek Hill makes a lot of money. Of course he does. He's also going to need it because he's reckless and he's got a lot of responsibilities and children. And so he came here and he got his money. But what do you think he feels watching on television? Do you think he can watch the games without feeling to know all that team doesn't even have a great receiver that team has a great tight end
Starting point is 00:18:50 and what we did making it look easy I asked you guys as he chose something thinking it would be better and then initially it was he got stardom that he didn't get in Kansas City but you don don't think i recall looks at not only jason kelsey and travis kelsey and is like look at all of what they get cuz they get to be playing games now that matters to be honest and i i can't really get inside terry kills head for you right now none of that
Starting point is 00:19:20 first of all he left the start of the got the thing we got the money and at left, he got the stardom, he got the fame, he got the money, and at the beginning, he got the winning. There was a feeling of, and this is what every athlete wants, number one, every pro athlete, number one, they wanna get paid. Number two, they wanna win. Number three, and all of these are separated by a hair margin.
Starting point is 00:19:39 They want, hold on. I think number three is higher than number two. They're winning because of me. That's correct. I think that's number one. I think that's number one I think no, no, no, no, no, it's pretty close. It's pretty close Number one is the money number one is always the money All right, I mean you want to win because of me. I would say it's almost always the money
Starting point is 00:19:57 But I want to win because of me is a very strong urge in sports. Absolutely. And so Tyreek Hill started to get all those feelings. Even if they didn't win and the Chiefs went to the Super Bowl, I think in his mind after year one, it's like, this was a good move. The Dolphins are good because of me. Because of me. Everyone's recognizing my impact. People are talking about me. Sorry. I mean, they're talking about me in a way they never talked about me
Starting point is 00:20:24 when I was with Kansas City. As one of the best players in the NFL. And never would. It's the same reason Kyrie Irving left Cleveland, because he understood, no matter how many we win here, I'm always gonna be LeBron's little brother, people are gonna ask me if I look at LeBron like a father figure and all those weird questions.
Starting point is 00:20:42 No, no, hold on. He was thought of so highly when he left the Chiefs that you guys were like, oh, the dolphins are going to win a million Super Bowls now. I feel like your guys ability to remember things that happened like two years ago, it's crazy. It's like it happened like 45 years ago. You have no memory of 2022 at all.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Welcome to the show Jess. It's somewhere in the middle though, right? Because like Tyree Kill wasn't voted the number one player by the NFL players in the NFL when he was in Kansas City. And when he was in Kansas City, everyone knew he was good, but they didn't say Patrick Mahomes was made by Tyree Kill the way they were saying the Dolphins, Tua only is good because of Tyree Kill.
Starting point is 00:21:18 So he was well regarded in Kansas City. However, when he came here because of his quarterbacking situation, he did get another level of respect and credit for the way the team was playing. And to some extent, you saw this year, he was not the same and the team wasn't as good now too, obviously missed four games also,
Starting point is 00:21:36 but you saw what the team wasn't with Tyreek Hill when he wasn't there. Yeah, but wasn't Dan also one of the people that was like, good luck Patrick Mahomes without Tyree Kill? Or am I just inventing that take from two years ago? Yeah, but we realized real quickly, like Patrick Mahomes was good without Tyree Kill. Tyree Kill was ranked the number 15 player in the NFL
Starting point is 00:21:58 his final season with the Chiefs. So I know from 15 to one is a giant gap. But it is, I'm serious. He had his best two years. His first two years with the Dolphins are his best two years by a lot. And look up also on that thing. Sure, he's the only target.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Where's Patrick Mahomes on that list? Yeah. Because I'm sure he's probably ahead of Tyree Kill. So he would get the credit for why it is that the team was good. Yeah, see? Look it up, look it up, Jeremy. Do your research.
Starting point is 00:22:23 I'm not saying look it up. I'm just saying he goes from being one of the guys to the guy and the reason why they're so good in many People's eyes. I think it's pretty clear that what he sought when he left Kansas City He got yeah, it's just the last year plus is kind of not gone according to plan And so I don't I know we probably says on and sucks get me out of here i don't think if you told him have you do it all over he thought justin kansas city be one of the guys i don't think he thinks that i think that he was the third most famous person
Starting point is 00:22:59 in kansas city and third most responsible for the success he was however before through the lawyers however the most responsible for the success he was however, he was however the most responsible for the fact that that used to be a big play offense and what Mahomes has become since then is someone who can't do that down the field. And in the category of do you appreciate things more when you get further from them,
Starting point is 00:23:22 I'm sure Kyrie Irving now thinks differently about some of the LeBron James things. And what I'm asking you guys to explore is, how is Tyreek now realizing for perhaps the first time, oh, not bulletproof, can't just get a thousand yards by being out there. Oh, I don't just win and now I'm 30. And the job is to be faster than everyone else
Starting point is 00:23:43 for the rest of my career and I'm 30. And I'm just asking you guys if you think at any point he makes the register of Yeah, I cashed in However, but I've got some solace I've got I need some solace because I need comfort from the fact that I made a bad decision I made a decision that supported something then but I didn't realize how hard winning actually is. I don't think he made a bad decision if you were to ask him because he got a contract that he wouldn't get and he already won a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:24:12 It's not like he never won. He had the Super Bowl, that's good, yes. He had the Super Bowl, he got the contract that he sought out and I don't think he does solace. And also he told us that he's coming back next year faster than this year, so. He's coming back at 30 faster than ever. I mean, what would he regret?
Starting point is 00:24:25 Like the way the sport works is that if you're good, you usually don't stay with the same place unless you're the only good player. Like that's how it's set up. So like, I doubt he regrets his decision. Like I don't think Christian Wilkins regrets going to Las Vegas and getting the money that he wasn't gonna get here.
Starting point is 00:24:40 I don't think Kyrie Irving necessarily regrets his decision, but when he looks back on it, he has a different appreciation in its absence than he had before. This is something Tyree Killen would have never learned there. He could have been there, won, and felt underpaid the entire time because he would have never gotten to test his ego on what it is that it was here where he was the number one guy. He was the guy responsible for turning two into a quarterback and a McDaniel into a genius everybody was
Starting point is 00:25:07 celebrating that this was his team he wasn't number three here he wasn't the third most famous guy he was the guy and the reason for winning you know point right these decisions are hard to make in the moment but I think just about everyone with the exception of Michael Jordan looks back at their career and says hey I could have done something differently so to that point it succeeded but he wanted out at the end of the season because that one time the turmoil arrived it felt like garbage to him and it was something foreign to him can we play the
Starting point is 00:25:37 sound of troy ackman uh... talking about michael urvin in the nfc championship game urban told us a story one time of being in the super bowl in some form of this kind of story where he's running after someone else who's on his team who has the football screaming at him that that was his super bowl touchdown let's hear what a kman had to say that was in the uh... nfc championship game our first one in the ninety two season and we have called this play it was uh... uh... eight ninety six f-lad in
Starting point is 00:26:05 the six was a pearl route and uh... the eight was the skinny post and and michael had been running the skinny post the entire game and i'd never thrown it and he had been running the curl or alvin harper had been running the curl and based on coverage every time we call that play in the game uh... it it pretty much went to alvin harper and so they're late in the game we call eight play in the game, it pretty much went to Alvin Harper. And so there late in the game, we call 896-F-flat. Michael would do this from time to time. He would try to line up where he thought the ball was going to go. And so he told Alvin, hey, you run the post, I'm going to run the curl because that's where he thought it would be thrown
Starting point is 00:26:38 again. What's interesting about that is that I think because Michael went to run the curl, it created the coverage that we ultimately got. I don't know that we would have gotten the same look if Michael was the one running that route, but you know Alvin catches the ball and Michael believes that he would have been the guy getting it had he not told Alvin to change position. Yes, he was running down the field screaming that, you know, he was happy as he could be. It was not a selfish act on his part, but he was screaming that that was his ball and it should have been him making that play.
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Starting point is 00:29:31 A little tan, Colorado, San Francisco. I had a great time. You got life on your face. You got death on your face! I think you got 40 to life on your face. This is the Don LeBata Show with the StuGats. I think that it is hard to place the ego of sports and the general selfishness of people inside of the team concept once you've turned it into business. Yeah, I mean, it's like relationships, right? It's like marriage, right? Every human has two innate urges in them, right,
Starting point is 00:30:13 that are contradictory. Number one, I'm independent, I do everything myself. I'm the boss, I do this, whatever. And number two is, I wanna be a part of something bigger than me. And sports is like the ultimate training ground for that, where it's like, unless you're tennis or track or something like that, you want the credit,
Starting point is 00:30:31 you want people to look at you as the reason for success. But also, you want to be part of something, you want to have teammates, you want to have people that lift you up and you want to lift other people up and have that kind of comradery going. And so, Dan, what you're asking is, at the root of all of this, what does Tyrick Hill, by way of example,
Starting point is 00:30:50 what does he want? And I think what he wants is kind of what he sought. He sought, eh, to get compensated. What is commensurate? What have I done? I would say once at all. I would say when you ask, what does he want? I would say-
Starting point is 00:31:03 The money and the winning. All of it, all of it. But the winning because of me. Well no, your points are good. And so, my fault. And so, he never was gonna get, it's like James Harden in Oklahoma City. How many would have he won?
Starting point is 00:31:15 They would have won 100. He never would have been MVP. He never would have had deals, endorsement deals. He never would have been looked at the way we look at him now. It's like Kobe and Shaq. I mean coby is said that the two titles he won without shak were way more important to why because he was the reason they won those titles
Starting point is 00:31:32 when he did it with shack everyone was at which act was going to be a wish act was done he wasn't getting one hundred percent of the credit when he did it without shack he was getting all absolutely and here's the deal when it comes to any of these guys cuz same reason why they can take this call up all come back to the nuggets white bruce brown come back to nuggets i want one like if you'd never want what i get it i gotta stay here with this is closely once you win site man like let me take care of me let me get paid the way i should be a
Starting point is 00:32:00 big let me get the credit i should get why we talk about Tyre Kill? It's Dan's fault. I'm just yes-handing. Yes, Dan. He should go to Buffalo. Oh man. Yeah, I mean.
Starting point is 00:32:15 That one. That's how you do it. Good idea, Chris. All together, right? Yes, Spags. Tyre Kill. The band is back together. Since you mentioned Spags, and now we've got Spags against Fang kill. The band is back together. Well, since you mentioned Spags,
Starting point is 00:32:25 and now we've got Spags against Fangs in the Super Bowl, can you guys please get for me, because Warren Sharp is out here, and Warren Sharp, my God, does this guy dive deep, deep into the numbers. And he got to this take later than God bless football, later than Stu Gotz and Billy Gill, and I don't know if Billy wants to accuse him of stealing this take later than God bless football later than Stu got to and Billy Gill and I don't know if Billy wants to Accused him of stealing this well, we stole it from Bill Barnwell
Starting point is 00:32:50 So okay, but you stole it first and you stole it better because you were there before Warren Sharp and You said that fixing the Buffalo Bills in two easy steps would be fire Sean McDermott higher your boy spags buffalo bills into easy steps would be fire sean mcdermott higher your voice bags and i want to know how god bless football feels about uh... this uh... this this stealing although billy really undermine me as he's capable of doing before i even got started by saying that the you guys stole it first i have to be honest i did not steal it from bill barnwell i didn't hear him say it i didn't read anything
Starting point is 00:33:25 that he wrote. Billy, you may have stolen it, but I came in with a fresh thought that morning. I literally pitched it to you on air, and you said that's a good idea. And then you came to this show, and I guess forgot that I did it to you five minutes before. So you stole it from Bill.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Yeah, no, but I credited him on the front end. That's nice of you. Don't do that next time. Yeah, by the time it gets to Stugats, it becomes his idea. No, but this is how it's been happening for years. The whole thing's been happening exactly as you just described it. You on your platform said the thing correctly and sourced it, and then Stu Gotz, it became
Starting point is 00:33:57 his idea, and he gets mad at Warren Sharp when he says, Warren Sharp stole my idea. That's how it's been happening for 20 years. Well, Chris also in here accused someone of stealing the idea from him when he in fact stole it from Jess without realizing he stole it from Jess just that day. I didn't hear Bill say it, but Bill's like not usually doing like super complex bits,
Starting point is 00:34:16 but he was, I assume, joking about it. I wanna make it clear that we are all being 100% serious about it. Thank you. Was he joking about it? Uh, I'm not gonna listen back. Wait, no, if he's joking about it, I'm with you. If he% serious about it. Thank you. Was he joking about it? Uh, I'm not gonna listen back. Wait, no, if he's joking about it, I'm with you. If he's joking about it,
Starting point is 00:34:29 then he just gave up any ownership to it. Bill Parkwell does not joke about football. He was half joking about it. He does, he does. He does not joke about football. No, but it means right, it doesn't count. If he was, even half joking, it doesn't count. No, we're all serious.
Starting point is 00:34:40 If he's dead serious, then it's yours. How do you guys feel about stolen goods? Are you dead serious about them? Well, here's my question. Then they're yours. How do you guys feel about stolen goods? Are you dead serious about them? Well, here's my question. Then they're yours. I had a conversation out there before and I was like, look, I'm not one to steal, but also I don't ask where certain things come from.
Starting point is 00:34:54 You know what I mean? Like if someone steals something and then they gift it to me, I didn't steal it. So I don't know if you guys feel the same way. I feel like it's still probably a crime. To be clear, I don't have stolen goods. It was just a conversation. Hypothetically.
Starting point is 00:35:09 That you know of. Yeah, exactly. That I know of because I don't ask. Depends on the level, right? Like let's say this jacket, for example. Yeah, a jacket. Literally this jacket. So what?
Starting point is 00:35:19 Maybe it was in a box at Radio Row last year. Wasn't intended for me, but I asked someone, hey, how does one get one of those jackets? And then they snuck it over to me and put it in my backpack. I'm glad that you brought up Radio Row, Billy. Put these things on the poll, please, Juju. Does Tyrick Hill do solace? I have an update on Bill, by the way.
Starting point is 00:35:36 He tweeted this, according to Taylor. I don't actually think that Bill should hire Spags as their head coach, but I do think it's a perfect debate show opinion. So he's basically giving us permission to steal it. Free play. Does Bill Barnwell joke about football is the other poll question at Levitard Show
Starting point is 00:35:53 because I had the same reaction that Chris did when they were like, maybe Bill Barnwell was joking. It was like, what are you talking about? No, I said I doubt he was joking. That was not what I said. Yes, thank you. Not about something so serious that bill joke about anything Stand down a stress guy is here
Starting point is 00:36:16 I couldn't see that actually he told you to stand down Media members always in Australia media members who look like they go to the Ren Fair, I'm here for this game. If you're always going to Australia, someone should ask questions. Also, this is a bad week to joke about football. I don't know if you guys have seen some of the analysis discourse out there,
Starting point is 00:36:37 but there's threats going on. It's a dark, dirty place right now on the internet. Threats, you say? Really? Oh yeah. It is today. Ryan Leif took things to a weird place the other day. It was really weird. Wow. All right. Put it on the poll at LeBotard Show.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Has Ryan Leaf taken the internet to a darker place at LeBotard Show? Hey, staple on Radio Row, Billy. Ryan Leaf. Well, I'm glad you guys mentioned Radio Row because I've seen- Super broadway down the house. Oh, Stugots, look. Stugots may be sick today. Stugots may be hurting at the end of a football season where he is alleged, radio row because i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i with Spags. He is building a god-blessed football empire with Billy and he's tired. And the season's about to end and we got a lot of people worried because Radio Row isn't a bit of an adventure for us the last few years and it's been hard, but Jenny was looking around and a little bit scared about what next week foretells and with his waddle swagger,
Starting point is 00:37:46 Stu Gotts is like, this is the most reliable Stu Gotts there is. Radio Rose Stu Gotts. Radio Rose Stu Gotts, there is no one more prepared for this, this is a holiday for Stu Gotts. This week, Billy, you're ready to own the entire thing. That's definitely his opinion of how Radio Road goes, is he's the most reliable no one more reliable. Well no I love it the point I was making to Jenny is that's the place I'll show up three hours
Starting point is 00:38:12 early I'll be there it's a content factory for me Billy you know that. But you won't be on your set you'll be walking around. That's kind of the thing we're up against a deadline we need to record a segment. We only have 20 minutes. I gotta go for a heater. Listen, we don't need to rush this. Let's just wait for people to appear. It's like, we only have 19 minutes left on this set.
Starting point is 00:38:32 It's like, ah, don't worry about it. Next thing you know, he's cutting it up with Baldinger. No, next thing you know, he's talking to Ryan Leaf and bringing him over for an interview and promising that he's gonna get him into the Lake Tahoe Tournament. And then the interview never airs and he doesn't end up in the Lake Tahoe Tournament.
Starting point is 00:38:44 I still have to get on that for two years. Next year, we come back, and Ryan Leaf is on set again, because he's promising him the exact same things. Yep, every year. Yep. Rinse, repeat. I know we're going to see Ryan Leaf this year. Listen, you walk down.
Starting point is 00:38:56 You take a stroll down the aisle, Radio Row. And if you walk into Jim Rome and have a five minute conversation, that means I'm five minutes late. I'm sorry. There's nothing I can do. That's what the Super Bowl's all about. That's what Radio Row is all about. I'll have a 20 minute conversation
Starting point is 00:39:09 about nothing with Mad Dog. I mean, it's amazing. Yeah, but off air when we're up against the deadline, and I will say this, no one at, and Stu, I'll take this as a compliment, because it's intended this way. Thank you. No one is better at Radio Row of figuring out how to leave,
Starting point is 00:39:25 is better at Radio Row of figuring out how to leave, go outside, smoke, and make it back through security with five minutes than Stu got. How he gets in and out of security so quickly to go smoke and do whatever it is that he's up to outside. That's letting the ground work, that's front end work. I befriend all these security guys, I bring them coffee every morning. They'll be in and out whenever I want.
Starting point is 00:39:47 I smoke indoors. You know we've been there. That's probably true. Bringing coffee. Never once have you brought coffee. Not a... Billy, what is true? Like, okay.
Starting point is 00:39:57 None of it. Not a word. No, the smoking inside. Billy, Billy, I want to explore this, okay? Because you don't want to explore this? No, I feel like Tyreek Hill now. I can't wait. It's gonna be so much fun.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Let's explore. I'm framing Stugatz as reliable Stugatz during the Super Bowl because he's legitimately excited, as he is every year about Radio Row. I am under no illusion that that's because he is working the entire time. It is because he's working year about Radio Row. I am under no illusion that that's because he is working the entire time. It is because he's working it the entire time. He's doing Stugatz finger guns all over the place
Starting point is 00:40:32 and this is where Stugatz gets to be the most famous version of himself in the middle of sports importance. Yeah, yeah, I love it. This is how he knows all the local affiliate call letters. I'm always amazed when Stugatsa wkrp and No, but it largely amounts to nothing. I guess is kind of like that time would be better spent doing anything But really we are paying for schmoozing. I know he's not bringing in anyone everyone else is booking these people
Starting point is 00:40:59 He's just walking around glad handing promising people hits. He's gonna do that. He does Other types of hits it is a year old yes it's just him just talking to agent it's just like that's is I'm not doing actual content here I'm making relationships why do y'all think they say yes like what show is it don't say yes to him oh yeah the guy that brought the coffee and was hanging out with me I want I want to go to and Buffalo are going to have a big week next week. I want to get to the bottom of this, but I want you to understand we are very much headed into Stu Gatz's adult prom.
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