The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Do NOT Read Flipper's Tweets

Episode Date: October 22, 2024

Today's cast: Dan, Stugotz, Chris, Billy, Jessica, and Mike. So, the Buccaneers season ended last night, huh? How many good NFL teams are there? Dan, Stugotz, and the Shipping Container discuss the bi...ggest NFL stories including the 49ers, C.J. Stroud, and Derrick Henry. Then, the combination of Bill Belichick and Ed Reed delivered the funniest moment in the history of Monday Night Football. Plus, if your mom says you have to do something, does that mean it's league mandated? Also, Tua Tagovailoa gave a press conference yesterday full of interesting moments regarding his concussion history and future in the league. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:12 Shadow show. Shadow show. Shadow show. Shadow show. Shadow show. Shadow show. Shadow in it. Stugatz, what kind of bread is that that Billy has
Starting point is 00:01:25 in his hands that he is eating? What would you describe that bread as? Because I'm always amazed at how long you guys have lived in South Florida and don't know some basic things. I would say that's French bread. Yup. It's Cuban bread. Oh.
Starting point is 00:01:41 And. I only knew that because one time I wore a white shirt that had a blue and a red stripe on it into work. It was a cub shirt and you guys all told me I looked like Cuban bread, so I Googled it and you were right, I did look like Cuban bread. Yes, also sometimes depending on the uniform they wear, Jokic also looks like Cuban bread often.
Starting point is 00:02:05 The thing that I wanted to bring up though. Yes, thank you, Stugans. You got it. Mike and Billy can also attest to how Chris Cody hasn't absorbed somehow living all of his life here. And when I say here's South Florida, even though Broward's not really. What?
Starting point is 00:02:22 It's just not. Well, it is. It's just not. I live in North Florida. It's not Miami, What? It's just not. Well, it is. It's just not. I live in North Florida. It's not Miami, it is South Florida. I mean, it's South Florida geographically, but not for these things. Plus, so is Tampa, technically.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Yeah, you and your dad can go an entire lifetime not assimilating anything Cuban. It's kind of amazing. It's why you call it the Rickenbauer Causeway. Like, you just don't know anything that happens north or south of the stadium. The Rick. The thing that Chris Cody just did to me, that I don't understand how he's gotten to almost 40 years old without having seen this before. He caught me moments ago visiting my childhood when grandma would have a piece of Cuban bread and I would dip it in my cafe con leche and Chris Cody walked by and asked is that a thing? And I
Starting point is 00:03:14 just don't know how you live in South Florida for as long as you have without ever seeing somebody dip Cuban bread in cafe con leche. Sometimes when you see a larger man doing something with food, you're like, that could just be something he's doing. A larger man? I do plenty of things that if you saw, you'd be like, oh, is that a thing?
Starting point is 00:03:33 And I'd be like, no, this is just me doing an odd thing. Who is the larger man? It was Dan dipping a piece of Cuban bread in coffee. Well, and he was just like dipping it. Trading barbs, that's odd for a dude that's almost 40. Is he over 40? Me? No, not yet, almost.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Chris Cody, so you're not sure when you're dipping your fries in a Frosty if that is something that's Cuban? If someone says to me there, is that a thing? I'd be like, with me it is, I don't know. But in my defense, I have not seen that a ton, the dipping of Cuban bread and coffee. It looked nice. But that's not in your defense.
Starting point is 00:04:09 What I'm saying is because you've not been north of the stadium and absorbed anything culturally that is outside of plantation. I'm just not a coffee drinker also. But you can, I'm not feeling the shame though of this. I don't know if I should. It's interesting. To me it's more of a natural pairing
Starting point is 00:04:24 than a donut and coffee. But, eh, too American, too Florida's. When I saw it, it looked like it tastes good. I just didn't know if it's, cause like, you know, I could see you just dipping bread. You put french fries on your salad, Dan. Is that a thing too? In Pittsburgh it actually is.
Starting point is 00:04:37 I was honestly just surprised to see you eating carbs. Is that, are you working some carbs in now? There you go. Well, this, what I saw when I came in in the morning, I'm not supposed to be eating that, but. Ooh, secret carbs that your wife doesn't know about? I'm right there with you, buddy. Scarbs.
Starting point is 00:04:52 I looked up Eddie Rickenbacker, can confirm he's not Cuban. He was born in Ohio. Ah, oh, forgive me. I'm not. The Rick. I'm just doing that as the bridge between here and Venezuela that we have. A little T-Y-F-Y-SS on him by the way. He was a fighter pilot
Starting point is 00:05:07 Thank you, I don't know what the point of bringing that up. Well, you know, you should always thank the Armed Service Yep, should I respect them? Yeah, my especially this year when they're gonna football my point I put both of them in the playoffs. Wow yesterday you're on the committee because they're undefeated and Wow. Yesterday. You're on the committee? Because they're undefeated and I know they haven't played anybody, but the people they are playing, they are smoking.
Starting point is 00:05:31 But the reason that I did that with the Rickenbauer Causeway, which is not Hispanic in any way, is only because it is the literal bridge between here and Venezuela. That's what's happening in Key Biscayne, is it's all Venezuelan money and for reasons I can't explain a Winn-Dixie. Like giant amounts of money and a Winn-Dixie. When are we changing that name?
Starting point is 00:05:54 Which one? Winn-Dixie. I thought it was the Rickenbacker Cosway you wanted to change the Rickenpower. The Rink. No, dude's a hero. This is the Don Leventor Show with the Stugats Podcast. Today's episode is sponsored by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show.
Starting point is 00:06:21 DraftKings, the crown is yours. Jessica proclaimed the Bucs season dead in the second quarter yesterday. Hmm. And I just want to ask all of you, and don't answer the question immediately, how many good teams are there in the NFL? How many teams are that you know are good?
Starting point is 00:06:41 I actually wanted to ask you, Dan, are the Bucs now one of the teams that you would say you don't have to play anymore for the rest of the season because yesterday you said that there are ten teams you just tell them and of the cleats we don't need to see anymore but i think they are not one of them look there are twenty teams in the league they're going to finish between seven and ten and nine and eight not a one of them have a chance to win the super bowl and and and so i didn't seven sub one
Starting point is 00:07:04 super bowls before well and this is not going to be one of them have a chance to win the Super Bowl and and and so I didn't sevens have won Super Bowls before well this is not going to be one of those years it's gonna be you got twenty teams that are between Sid that can be either worse than seven and ten or seven and ten and and and you know I'm gonna say nine and eight like it's just everybody and I don't trust Baker Mayfield to win enough playoff games to win the Super Bowl and neither do you none of you do Not know if he could be playing better and you can like him as a quarterback and you're going to expect that Interception in the red zone that one that ends up there. Yeah, that just ends their season I really do want to get that answer from you guys though
Starting point is 00:07:40 How many teams are there that you know are good because? Now we get into the good ones also getting hurt the ones that you know We're good that are gonna get hurt like look at the fourth look at the fourth headline on ESPN Comm today and we're not even halfway through the season listen to this 49ers IU tears ACL and MCL Debo in the hospital. That's the fourth headline on ESPN calm That was one of the teams we thought was gonna be good But now they're they're going to be injured and the reason that I bring this up is because I want to talk in general About injuries and health in that sport, but before I do so, I want to play some sound for you last night Can I answer the question? Sure three three good teams in the NFL. Yep chiefs Ravens Lions
Starting point is 00:08:24 There's no fourth. You're not believing the Green Bay or the Vikings. I believe it in the NFL? Yep, Chiefs, Ravens, Lions. There's no fourth, you're not believing the Green Bay or the Vikings? I'm not believing in the Packers, I do not believe in the Vikings, I'm not going there with Tampa Bay, I'm not doing it with San Francisco, those are my teams, maybe Washington. Tampa did beat Detroit.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Yeah, well. But they lost Evans and Godwin, they can hang it up for here. Yeah, the Godwin one is bad, they need to make a trade. Maybe Tyree Kell? The Green Bay defense is very good, C.J. Stroud, I don't know that anyone even noticed this, but he was 10 of 21 for 86 yards on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Green Bay's defense is actually, because I had that taken, I was corrected. They've had timely turnovers and this was probably their best performance, but you can absolutely move the ball on Green Bay's defense, even though I would put Green Bay in that class, certainly of good teams. You can move the ball against almost every defense except the Chiefs and the Chargers. Like, there are... What? You say timely turnovers. I'm gonna say pass rush causes those and I'm going to say their secondary is good because they can get pass rush, but... But I'm not sure that they're good either I'm not totally
Starting point is 00:09:25 positive I have two good teams two Chiefs Ravens let's just run it back AFC Championship game ten times till January winner gets the Lombardi trophy best of ten series I like it well and then if it's if it's tied we just play an 11th game and that's the Super Bowl hmm you saw the numbers on Derrick Henry last night right he was available for one year nine million dollars. 15 carries 169 yards. That's 11 yards a carry. Yeah. They've got the best rushing offense through seven games we've ever seen because they cannot be stopped when Lamar Jackson is an MVP and Derrick Henry is running like that. Their quarterback threw for five touchdowns
Starting point is 00:10:04 last night. They make it look very easy on offense when not a lot of people make it look very easy on offense and none of us could find the Chargers game against the Cardinals because it was only on ESPN+. Lamar is doing a better job than ever and it's probably because his protection is better at absolutely exploiting defenses when they decide to stack the box against their rushing attack. He is finding open receivers.
Starting point is 00:10:29 He is broken away from what he did earlier in the season, which was just lock in on Zay Flowers, which hasn't been a super efficient play. So he is spreading the ball around. I'm really impressed with Lamar Jackson. I think he's somehow better this year than he was in his MVP season. I want him to win a Super Bowl so badly,
Starting point is 00:10:44 because my fear is, much like Peyton Manning, better this year than he was in his MVP season. I want him to win a Super Bowl so badly because my fear is much like Peyton Manning who couldn't win, didn't win enough Super Bowls because Tom Brady was hogging all the Super Bowl trophies. My fear for Lamar Jackson is he wins MVPs. He'll probably win his third this year, not win a Super Bowl because Patrick Mahomes is hogging all the Super Bowl trophies. I think you know how Steph Curry in the eyes of some had to prove something in the NBA finals? Only you. Well only you. Okay but he did definitively. And me. Okay I mean lost an MVP to Andre Iquodala. Embarrassing for one of the greatest players ever. But it's Steph was wandering around the entire off seasons all before that
Starting point is 00:11:23 hoping to prove something to just you because you were questioning. I appreciate it and I gave him his flowers but you want them to win a Super Bowl I'd say provided that the opposing team scores more than 13 points that won't happen because historically he doesn't win in the playoffs if the opposing team scores more than 13 points so Lamar Jackson absolutely has proving to do and i think in this one i have a little bit more company you have a lot more company on this one than you did on steph curry because uh... we have seen him uh... it we've seen it what we believe to be when you're watching that team
Starting point is 00:12:00 them the forty niners and the chiefs as clearly the last five years those have been Consistently good teams in a league where everybody gets hurt and you never know who is any good and when you say to me The Chiefs are good. I know on reputation. They're good I know their defense is good, but Patrick my homes has not been good this season like somehow statistically offensively weirdly You trust that that guy's gonna figure it out in the postseason, but he's been kind of bo-Nixie
Starting point is 00:12:28 in terms of touchdown interception rate. It's been weird, because if you watch the games too, they're winning the games because, in timely fashion, he becomes Patrick Mahomes and he does something and it's not always with his arm, but it is, it's a very strange season. It's kind of like, it's being statistically compared to the season that Peyton Manning
Starting point is 00:12:45 had when he won the Super Bowl with the Broncos where he was an absolute shell. Nine touchdowns, 17 interceptions is what Peyton Manning had that season. Yeah, but that was the second Super Bowl. Big, big one. I was just going to ask you that, Stu, so Lamar Jackson needs to win two, right? Because if he wins one, it's worse than not having any. Correct, yeah. You need to win two.
Starting point is 00:13:04 If you want to be considered one of the all-time greats you have to have two you just do. Anyway speaking of all-time greats Belichick is no more effusive on any player than he is on Ed Reed's two guys. I have not heard Bill Belichick talk about brady the way that he talks about that and read bill bella check i told you one of my favorite sports quotes of all time was bill bellachick was so rabid after beating freddie mitchell in the super bowl with the eagles that he gave peter king the quote of just simply of freddie mitchell he's terrible i was happy when he was in the game
Starting point is 00:13:43 which you know is a great quote from any coach but that coach saying it about somebody basically ruins anything that you might have thought was positive about freddie mitchell so when bill bella check talks this way about ed reid i'm telling you still got i've never heard him talk this way about tom brady there's no player in the history of the sport that, not Lawrence Taylor, not anybody that Bill Belichick loves more than Ed Reed. Guess in the fourth quarter, best safety I ever faced, he and Troy Palamalu. What made him so special in your eyes?
Starting point is 00:14:17 Oh my God, everything. Where do you start? Run force, tackling, man-to-man coverage, blitzing, disguise. He was great, great in the deep part of the field. Great speed, range. Then when he got his hands on the ball he could score from anywhere. You know, 105, 108, whatever it was, yard returns on the interceptions and then his punt blocking When we played against him, we had a different punt protection whenever he was in the game to make sure we doubled the guy We found somebody else not to block with two guys on Ed Reed now
Starting point is 00:14:56 Luckily, he wasn't in there on every punt rush and there were times where we played against him where he didn't rush a punt The entire season, but if he came into our game, we were double him. He had his own punt protection. Only player I've ever done that against in my entire career. So it was everything with Ed Reed. Audio audience, I'm not making up. This is true. Bill Belichick, the first half of that clip was rubbing his nipples over his shirt.
Starting point is 00:15:22 He was so happy to be talking about Ed Reed, who I would classify as, and this is not a small thing to say, the single most respected player in the history of the University of Miami program. Just, I'm not- There's lots of malfeasance there though. But respected.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Not with Ed Reed. I mean respected by others, respected by colleagues, teammates, the people who dole out the respect. I don't know who I'd put second. Sean Taylor. Sean Taylor. But only because he died where people would put it there. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:15:53 It most certainly helps his legacy, but no. Every, it's Ed Reed and Sean Taylor. Sean Taylor. Braxton Barrier. Sean Taylor was feared, Ed Reed universally respected. I'm making a distinction there, fine. You can say Sean Taylor was feared. Ed Reed universally respected. I'm making a distinction there, fine. You can say Sean Taylor, but Ed Reed comes on later in the programs, Dugats, with the Mannings.
Starting point is 00:16:14 And if I were writing a comedy script for him making it awkward, where the Mannings are just trying to get back to football, the Mannings and Omaha Productions are the future of what this league is gonna try and sound and look like and ed reid just comes into the proceedings and says you know all of this they're doing out here it's really unhealthy and payton just keeps trying to get back to the game that's the new the new thing right as the guardian cat as the guardian cat
Starting point is 00:16:41 most guys wear in practice but you can it in the game if you want to for safety. Oh, he got him. Oh, he's bobbing it. He's bobbing it. He's bobbing it. Now, how much safety is that, though? It's an extra layer of protection. Like I said, all the players are wearing them during training camp at practice, and then
Starting point is 00:17:02 players are allowed to wear them if they want at the game So it's another layer of protection. So Make you really think that protection is going to do something past that carbon fiber that's on the helmet Usually when a boxer knocks somebody out he puts the crap out of him in the jaw. don't hit him in the top of his head he gets hit here so when a person is gonna snap it's gonna send a shock in their nerves and it's gonna make them go numb it's not gonna be just from the frontal lobe it It's going to be because of the head movement of the lack of muscle strength in the neck or the weakness thereof that happens over time in the game is called fatigue.
Starting point is 00:17:58 And you're right. We should give it up some easy touchdowns here Bravo Ed Reed Bravo Eli man, you like Eli's face the entire time was great That's the funniest thing I've ever seen Monday night football adjacent them lobe got me too. Well, how about neck? Your neck? I thought he was going to mention spine. All of this is happening the evening after Tua does his press conference and uses the phrasing the death of me when talking about how much he loves football and the need to continue playing football because you couldn't write that.
Starting point is 00:18:43 If you were writing dark comedy, you couldn't do it better than that where Eli and Peyton who are pretty good on their feet and can you know present to the public what they think football wants to feel like to both the league and the public it's not a coincidence to God of all the broadcasting jobs that are available I know we give them to Jason Whitten and and troy ackman and tony romo but wherever it is that the people in power allow the future of this sport to grow into we're gonna move past the rothless burgers in the era of brady's and rogers to the younger quarterbacks were going to do it
Starting point is 00:19:20 with older quarterback voices that you used to win a pay tom brady a bunch of money in broadcasting we're gonna pay paid manning uh... money to make content all over the place because the league finds the manning's palatable there is there really is there really acceptable really easy to sell as the face voice of the league and the appearance in politics of the league like fit anywhere
Starting point is 00:19:46 not going to be found uh... uh... you know that that not a whole lot of people are going to hate the mannings like they might have him for sports reasons for it but they're fine with them being the bridge to the future for those guys to try and represent what they're trying to represent on monday night and ed reed coming on and saying let me tell you what's real about this uh... these cartoon ridiculous helmets that they're trying to protect their brains with. I've been out there playing.
Starting point is 00:20:09 The top of the head doesn't have anything to do with what we're doing out there. The Mannings are trying to promote football and Ed Reed is trying to protect the players. I don't know if he's trying to do that. Well, he's asking questions. I don't think that the Mannings are promoting football and Ed Reed is here to show you the
Starting point is 00:20:25 unvarnished truth of what football is. Wait, that's the truth? I don't know if there were facts behind what Ed Reed was saying while he was asking. Let's listen to this again because the question, you're right, he is asking questions and there aren't facts or many of them here other than the most respected respected player in University of Miami history He's telling you I don't know how much any of that's doing for my head. Let's listen again That's the new the new thing right as the guardian cat as the guardian cat most guys wear in practice But but you can wear in the game if you want to for safety. Oh, he's got
Starting point is 00:21:06 Bobbitt it now how much safety is that though? It's an extra layer of protection. Like I said, all the players are wearing them during training camp at practice and then players are allowed to wear them if they want at the game. So it's another layer of protection so makes sense. Do you really think that protection is going to do something past that carbon fiber that's on the helmet? Usually when a boxer knocks somebody out he puts the crap out of them in the jaw. He only hit him in the top of his head. He gets hit here. in the top of his head. He gets hit here. So when a person gets knocked out, their neck is gonna snap free. It's gonna send a shock in that nerve
Starting point is 00:21:54 and it's gonna make them go numb. It's not gonna be just from the frontal lobe. It's gonna be because of the head movement of the lack of muscles and strength in the neck or the weakness thereof that happens over time and the game is called fatigue. Ed, you're right, but you're giving up some easy touchdowns here. I need a little pimp talk from you, buddy. Who cares about the Knights? Hey everyone, it's Mike Ryan.
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Starting point is 00:23:31 wall till the sweat drop off my balls. Stugats. The window to the walls. We all heard that, right? Till the sweat drops down my balls. So what I'm saying here. All these females cross singing, oh, skeet, skeet, goddamn. Old blue eyes. Congratulations on your suey nomination. This is the Dunn-Levatar Show with the StuGuts. ["The Dunn-Levatar Show Theme"] I don't know about the last part and like the physics of all of that,
Starting point is 00:24:03 but I think it's fair to ask if a guardian cap would have saved Tua from the most recent concussion he had where he was basically launching himself headfirst into Damar Hamlin. It's a good question and he was asked it yesterday and what he said is personal choice I'm not wearing one of those. I do find it curious. I wonder if the rest of you do because some of this seems like aesthetics. Very few players are willing to look as dorky as you look wearing that Lego helmet because it makes you, I don't know whether it makes you feel like you're looking weird or
Starting point is 00:24:40 soft by trying to protect your head but to me it uh... the the proof in the fact that the players don't believe that's actually keeping them any healthier is the fact that none of them are wearing it like they're very few players out there actually willing to show the strength of the optics of yes i i'm gonna remind you at every turn that i'm thinking of brain injuries and i'm trying to keep myself safer than all the other warriors out here. Devon H. Anne wore one this past week weekend, he had to in order to play. Guys clearly don't like how it feels, guys clearly don't like how it looks on them. I don't think that's a rule, Stu. I don't think they mandate that you have to
Starting point is 00:25:21 wear one to play. Okay, maybe you guys are right. HN did wear one this way. It does look ridiculous, but if it protects you, if it's going to prevent you from getting concussions and head trauma, isn't that something you should be wearing? They clearly don't believe that it is. Because it looks wack. It looks bad. That's what I'm saying. But I don't know the science behind it. I don't know. I'm sure in a couple of years, I'll make it up to a point. I'm just asking you this, if indeed it does protect you, Dan, in a way that the helmets they're currently wearing does not, shouldn't they be wearing those helmets? Well, I think that the two arguments are, on the one hand, people think that even if
Starting point is 00:25:57 the science isn't 100% clear that it does help you, even if there's like a 1% chance, it mitigates the risk of concussion. Shouldn't you wear it? And then the flip side of that is if you're a player and you're really not sold on any of the evidence whatsoever, why would you wear something that could be more uncomfortable, could actually be heavier on your head,
Starting point is 00:26:19 just something that would make you play differently? And so why would I do that if the science isn't clear at all? Which I don't think at this point we can say we know for sure if the guardian caps work or not. But this is clearly such a good point that you're making because of the science of what these guys do to make their bodies into the granite it must be to do that stupidity for a living.
Starting point is 00:26:43 When you think of someone like Bill Romanowski many years ago, like ionizing his own water in a bathtub and sending his fecal matter to labs to make sure that his nutrition was proper and his teammates wearing thinner pads because it makes you aerodynamic, like this has been going on forever in that league, I don't wanna wear heavier pads because want to be this much faster than the
Starting point is 00:27:07 cornerback who's wearing heavier pads than me. When Jessica says I don't want the discomfort of playing with a helmet that's different from the one that I came up through the pipeline with, 15 years this my head feels like this when I play. I'm not going to put another layer on top of it that makes my head move differently when the winning is in the margins when you've got to be this much I'm not going to put another layer on top of it that makes my head move differently when the winning is in the margins when you've got to be this much faster than the next person and all these guys are competing all off season in training regimen to be this much stronger
Starting point is 00:27:35 than the next guy. Throughout that sport, people have always wanted to be a little more aerodynamic, a little less safe. It's not unlike the F1 cars. Like you're trying to streamline everything so much that I don't less safe it's it's not unlike the f one cars like you're trying to streamline everything so much but i don't even think it's just optics i think it's that they don't measure the consequences their priority is performance it's not health
Starting point is 00:27:57 i have an update on the chance so they ask him after the game about it and he said that his mom told him that he had to wear it and he didn't want to go back and forth with his mom on it so he wore it so Stu gots may have been right on that. I don't think Stu knew that. I was right. Well he didn't want to go back and forth with mom and he ends up wearing it then he needed to wear it to play. Listen mom mandating that you wear it is more important than the league mandating that you wear it. Mom is the league. Exactly right. I mean she is she's the commissioner. He had a concussion week five which is why she asked him to wear it
Starting point is 00:28:25 Mm-hmm. You know what? I'm gonna do this but like it doesn't feel right. It's still got you us, right? Holy shit still got you us, right? He stumbled into that one though Semantics some would say And I knew it some had it all long some woman eggs I was trying to do something with the man in the middle of semantics and I get a woman and I failed. But if your mom tells you to do something
Starting point is 00:28:51 and says you have to do something, you're more inclined to do it than if a stranger who's profiting off of you and your pain tells you to do something, right? Put it on the pole. Mom cares about you in a way that Godel will never care about you. Yeah, but you stumbled into that one.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I did It doesn't matter Stugatz. You didn't intend Well, it doesn't matter. You didn't get it right. I did though. I mean you heard the sound He did. Gore Bored! He did get it right. He did but not the way that he thought he got it right It wasn't the league that mandated it was the mom that mandated it How are you so comfortable speaking at microphones as if things are facts when you don't know they're facts? Like you're just waiting for us to call you on that?
Starting point is 00:29:31 Or like? Womantics, I mean. That would have been the way to do it. You found it. Yes, thank you. Womandate. Yeah. You guys would fire Jeremy for that.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Look, I'm not. And I would agree with it by the way. I'm not proud of that. Can you? That they did it better than me doesn't make it good. They just made the joke and I didn't make the joke. They? Yes, you and Billy. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:29:57 Be careful with the pronouns. Billy didn't say a word to me. MFL. Billy did say words to you. I saw how delighted he was. MFL. I did say words to you. I saw how delighted he was. MFL. I said M. No, we're confused.
Starting point is 00:30:09 We're doing, yeah. Mom. Oh, okay. Went over our heads. Scorilled word again. You are. He's on a higher level. He's on a higher level.
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Starting point is 00:32:36 She hits it out of the park! Harry Carrey is who that is? It's Will Ferrell doing Harry Carrey. And Elvis occasionally. Look out now! It's it's Will Ferrell doing Harry and Elvis occasionally This is the Don Lebathear show with the StuGards To Give the press conference yesterday. Let's go through some of this sound here because this phrasing, guys, I mean, you tell me how you absorbed to a coming out a little bit defiant on everybody's
Starting point is 00:33:14 worried about my health and he's not wrong when he says, Hey, it's my health. It's not your help. And I've told you the stories to gods of talking to Ricky Williams on an NFL sideline years after his career and the movement of the people the tackle is coming his way and he's saying what was I doing what was I thinking and one of the things that he says is warriors in order to be warriors can't be thinking about consequences otherwise they wouldn't be warriors can't be thinking about consequences otherwise they wouldn't be war here like that's that's the way that one works and so he's a leader
Starting point is 00:33:51 among people who and when i say people i mean his ethnicity and i mean that locker room people who are proud to be tougher than everybody not the average person tougher then everybody But not the average person, tougher than everybody. And so when he uses this wording and he's defiant, and Chris Cody, you remember before the season, ooh, I like cocky Tua. I like leader Tua.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Now leader Tua watch what his team was when he was gone, which is they better have paid him because they don't have a way to fix this without the money that they have paid him he's gotta be as valuable as his contract he's got the pressure to come back and be the savior on a franchise that is very literally built around him everything they're doing on offense is build around him and his
Starting point is 00:34:42 brain and he's got a lead those men and so this is what he says right off the top on yes i'm coming back the season is a right on the break nobody thinks we're not good everyone's doubting us they paid me all the money i'm going into the bus all there's a real there are a lot of people out there legitimately worried about your health and making sure that you're okay what would you say to those that
Starting point is 00:35:02 are worried that that you might get hurt again and this is something that's going to continue? I appreciate your concern. I really do. I love this game and I love it to the death of me. That's it. Stugats. He had two months to think about what he was going to say in that press conference. Was that a typewriter? That was allowed. Someone was getting after it. Barry Jackson just tweeting away back there. Let's hear it again. It sounds like a typewriter. It might be a computer keyboard. There are a lot of people out there legitimately worried about your health and making sure that you're okay. What would you say to those that are worried that that you might get hurt again?
Starting point is 00:35:39 And this is something that's going to continue. I appreciate your concern. I really do. I love this game and I love it to the death of me. That's it. Why are they clacking away when the question's being asked? I thought you were supposed to write the quote and it's just like before the question's being asked, they're already going after it. I think it might be someone transcribing the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Oh wow, they do the whole thing. With a typewriter? Well, it seems like a stenograph. I don't know the distinction between a- The tiny one in quartz. I think AI might do this, guys, nowadays. Maybe, but it sounded, you might be right, but we mentioned typewriter and I went even older,
Starting point is 00:36:15 a stenographer is what I've got it being. Mike has a courtroom sketcher just drawing a picture of Tua back there. All right, let's hear it again, because it also sounded like someone unwrapping gum and chewing it. There are a lot of people out there legitimately worried about your health and making sure that you're okay. What would you say to those that are worried that you might get hurt again and this is something that's going to continue?
Starting point is 00:36:36 I appreciate your concern. I really do. I love this game and I love it to the death of me. That's it. I've never even heard I love something to the death of me. I've never heard that as an expression. Yeah I love it to death. Yeah, I've heard derivatives of that Love it to death till the casket drops. They put me in the dirt. Just the big nap in in retrospect probably Not the wisest choice of words Well, I think he had two months to think about it, and I don't think that was an accident.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Like, I think that was purposeful. I think that you have Stugatz. Let's think about this for a second, okay? This is the most polarizing dolphin of my lifetime. I don't get it totally. It's sort of the math and the numbers of the sport and how you value quarterback quarterback and is someone a system quarterback and we're gonna doubt this person all the time
Starting point is 00:37:30 but does anyone disagree with that in terms of The the reaction of to anon it's the most polarizing thing you've ever seen around a dolphin a most more most us against the United States type of thing where you believe in this little thing, you believe he's going to make offense forever, that the passing yards are real and the rest of the country is saying he's not that good and your team's not that good. I think that's fair. Yeah, totally fair.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Ricky Williams wasn't really polarizing. Most people were, it was a different time, most people were staunchly anti-Ricky when he was doing all that stuff. Oh no, Ricky was positive until he took away the feel-good and then he became unpopular, but that was after his career. I've never seen anything like this and so we've also seen because he's grown from a college kid into an adult with all of the responsibilities of sort of being the radioactive epicenter of a regional sports city. Miami loves to fight the country on sports shit.
Starting point is 00:38:28 And we've had it a couple of times with the UM football program and with LeBron and Chris Bosh and Dwayne Wade, but not a lot. And this one brings that, where if you believe in this thing, you're fighting everyone in the country who just sort of says, ah, that's brock purdy without
Starting point is 00:38:45 rock purdy's weapons not non all you know the six guys you've got a couple of guys instead of six guys but it's shana hand light is their coach it's all unraveled on him in five games were all of a sudden whatever you thought of him before is evaporated because a playoff loss in kansas city and all his shit don't work unless the quarterback's in there. Yeah it's interesting I'm trying to think who
Starting point is 00:39:09 would be the second most polarizing player in dolphin history is it Richie Incognito? Is it Ted Ginn? Let's think about this for a second does anybody want to help Stu Gotts because the Dolphins keep in mind they've gone a quarter of a century being a regional team that's not interesting to the country. Maybe it's Jason Sanders. Ryan Tannehill is pretty divisive. I think if you're doing most polarizing Dolphins,
Starting point is 00:39:33 Flipper probably. He wasn't polarizing, he was just popular, wasn't he? Complicated legacy. Yeah. Well, that was because of people and how they entrapped him, not Flipper. What was Flipper's con? Don't do a deep dive into Flipper, Dan. old tweets exactly all right. I don't know flippers history
Starting point is 00:39:49 I'm gonna have to take your word for it I'm gonna play some more to a sound here those two gods because I do think the macro is super interesting The only reason the Dolphins have gone from a regional team to a national team the last couple of years after 20 years without a playoff win is this guy yes they they went right back to being the jags patriots game as soon as he leaves you know he's their prime time player we could talk about tyreek hill and wattle if you
Starting point is 00:40:18 want but you saw what happened to them without to with the whole thing functions around him and now he's being asked to come back and be worth the money and be confident and be leader guy and do it all well you might be risking your life a little extra than everyone else and so here he talks about the rest that's the use of the use of the uh... it's obviously your decision since you have so much more information we do do. But how much risk do you think you're taking to fight again, any more than the normal approach?
Starting point is 00:40:50 Well, how much risk do we take when we get up in the morning to go drive to work? Get into a car crash, I don't know. Everything I think takes risk. So to answer that question, every time we all suit up, we're all taking a risk that we could potentially get hurt, whether it's a concussion, a broken bone, anything. You get up off of the bed the wrong way, you potentially could risk you spraining your ankle. There's just risk in any and everything. And I'm willing to play the odds. That's it. You guys are laughing back there, and I just saw mouth the words Howard Bryant, who tore out, tore both his hamstrings getting out of bed.
Starting point is 00:41:34 That would've been great if too, it's like you could be like, Howard Bryant, tear both your hamstrings. Ha ha ha ha ha. Dan, Flipper did not believe in a woman's right to choose. Wow. And he's all over these flight logs. Yep.
Starting point is 00:41:47 There are all sorts of videos of dolphins, if they had human resources department or dolphin resources department, they would be accused of sexual harassment and inappropriate workplace conduct. Yeah, they don't like menstruation, straight up. Well, but no, is that right? I think they like to have sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss because I thought that... It just makes them all crazy, frontal lobe. But I think crazy from pleasure, not crazy because I think... No, I know they're horny too,
Starting point is 00:42:27 but it's just that, yeah, maybe they get psycho horny. Like... Men. Yeah. That's why my wife calls me dolphin. Let's listen a little more here to Tua because this isn't something, Stukatz, that I've seen a whole lot of covering football.
Starting point is 00:42:46 We don't, you realize we're watching something here. I found an image of Flipper with a tiki torch. Oh boy. You guys do realize that we're in the middle of the advancement of this concussion story that's been around for 10 years, but it hasn't taken this human a form before. Oh it's one of the quarterbacks. Oh he's spasming in a way that makes it feel a
Starting point is 00:43:10 little bit infantile and like a seizure. Oh I'm associating him with concussions more than anybody else anywhere in sports as he tells you man boxing and hockey why am I the only one because now you've got one guy who's the face of concussions in this league stugats it's not a second guy you can mention other people have had concussions there's no second name here that people are attaching a face and a voice to wait a minute i'm watching him brain damage himself we've never seen a guy on the field it's the optics of it did we've never seen a guy have a reaction to a concussion the way Tua does. So Josh Allen, I'm convinced he was recently concussed.
Starting point is 00:43:51 He went into the blue tent and he came back out a minute later, went back into the game. Tua, we saw things on the field we've never seen from an NFL player. His hands and fingers going in different directions. We've seen some of that in the past back when they were celebrating the giant hits were someone's are jacked up goes stiff yes a different time in football but again this part uh... i mean it's dark comedy funny the way ed reid talking to the manning says they're trying to make a violent thing safe there's no such thing when he says
Starting point is 00:44:23 you can get into an accident on the way to work yes but to uh... we're playing probabilities i could catch on fire walking to my car but i'm more likely to catch on fire if i'm standing near a burning stove like we're playing probabilities on where it is your daily life takes you we don't go out of the daily basis seeking harm it's an accident if it happens that job you're seeking Horm you're trying to avoid it, but it's not avoidable. You're not seeking harm, but it's part of the gig
Starting point is 00:44:51 You can't avoid it. It's not avoidable. And so here he is talking about nope not going guardian helmet Nope, so many people outside world are saying he should retire You don't play this and that while you're symptom free the next day. I wasn't paying attention to any of it. None of it. Tulli, you said last time you had that discussion with Dandley. Yeah. In the offseason. Did that discussion come up in the last time? Nope. Nope. None of that.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Will you wear a guardian cap? Nope. Why? Personal choice. Will you wear a guardian cap? Nope. Why? Personal choice. Now that, three words, and I'm like, OK,
Starting point is 00:45:31 and what is it? Can you explain the personal choice to us, please? And the answer is no, because he's saying personal choice, which might as well be no comment. But aren't you guys curious about what the choice is? Is that aesthetics? Or is it something like, you don't think it works you're you don't wanna
Starting point is 00:45:48 it's a timing offense timing offense he's got to get everything out in two seconds you've always worn one kind of helmet you're not going to wear something that's more uncomfortable because you need everything to be this kind of precise are you guys curious about what that means personal choice or do you assume it's a do you assume it's optics? Don't like how it looks. I love Flipper. Hey everyone, it's Mike Ryan. We here at the Dan Levitard show with StuGods are excited to partner with Miller Life to let you, our loyal audience, play along with one of our most popular segments we have, Weekend Observations, presented by Miller Light. On October 21st, you will be able to go to
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