The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Don't Bruin The Segment

Episode Date: November 22, 2023

David Samson tries (and fails) to discuss Stephen Ross selling a minority stake in the Miami Dolphins. Plus, the crew asks if there is yet another 'must-win' game for Mario Cristobal and the University Of Miami. Black Friday will be a disorienting day for South Florida sports fans with the Dolphins, Canes, Heat and Panthers all playing. Also, Roy has how many hockey shows on the network? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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costume. Mike Ryan said to me in a way that felt really vulnerable. Calvin Klein, huh? Can I say something? Dan, you pull off Fred Flintstone. Yeah, you do. I really do. Body type, you know what I mean?

The hair color, I mean, it's working. Can I get a Yabba-Dabba-Doo? Got the natural hair on the shoulders. Yeah, yeah. Arm with, just thick, general blocky thickness. Fickness. Yeah. In sports and sports media, it's Berman, the former Hall of Fame guy that would go around telling people they're in the Hall of Fame and you.

Are your feet covered in dirt right now? I am barefoot. I am committed to the character. Billy is indeed ruling with an iron fist or attempting to. Look at this. So do you have a tempting to? Stugots has a shirt on. Yes. Stugots. A name. Stugots are supposed to pay off. David, answer your question. Why all the plans?

Stugots has said, and we're holding him to it, mostly iron-fisted Billy, that in this first hour he will go shirtless to endure a grid of death punishment, but he looks thicker than I do right now because it seems like he is covered in winter gear. He's the opposite of shirtless. He's wearing more fabric on top of him than I've ever seen.

It's been a long season, it's chilly outside today, it is. I mean, you felt it, right? It's not chilly. What do you mean? Why aren't you shirtless? All right, I'll take it off. Wow, okay, there it is.

Yeah, take the sweater off, come on. Okay, I'll take it off. I'll take it off. I'll take it off. I'll take it off. While he's doing this, David Samson, nothing personal. I'm here to tell you again what he and John Skipper do is the best sports business hour you will find anywhere. And nothing personal covers a lot of terrain that not many people in sports are

covering. Samson, what are you looking at now? Are you wearing a scarf? It's cold out, like I said. I mean, you feel it. Everyone feels it. It's cold. You see on the sweater line., you feel it, everyone feels it. It's cold. You see his oven.

You see his on the sweater line. Take off the next. How many things is he wearing? I have a scarf on from USA Soccer. This is what they send you when you're the world's number one soccer fan. Well, take that off and the hoodie that you have off. Hoodie?

Yeah, you're wearing a hoodie. What is it? I've never seen someone undress this slowly. We're going to get all of it. He has put a lot of plants in here to cover. I don't think any of this is going to work. I'm just wearing. Well, I've seen a pouch and it wasn't on fabric. I saw something jiggle under there. Take that shirt off to this shirt. How many shirts do you have on cold outside? It's 79 degrees degrees this is like teenagers playing strip poker it is an unpleasant unpleasant way to play this you shouldn't be playing with teenagers I am sorry

good that is what you said questionable legacy Joseph Gecky has made a ruling we'll talk to him later in the show. He came in hot with opinions today. We're gonna lose this last shirt. Christ, man. How many more shirts does he have on? A closet. Is this segment almost yes? You should have heard him negotiating last night.

Via text, you should have heard. Before the last shirt comes off, I'll give you one more chance, Dan, okay? You could have this on on Max, okay? We did view on Max. I could do this on Max, okay? We'd debut on Max. I could do this on Max or I could do it today. You know, it's a light day in terms of viewership when you talk about the day before Thanksgiving.

So it's up to you last chance. That's a good shirt, dude. So you want to negotiate. He's been trying to do this for about 12 hours. I had two more shirts. We did a poor job of announcing. Your stomach came out and we already saw the gag. Don't put that hat on

A gag what's the gag Billy? Just wait for it. Oh wow One shirt away, Dan you might want to date the deal. Yeah max a max. You're being denied this day viewing on what used to be HBO Max I mean, I'll give you two maxes in exchange for today. Have a that's just taking on that during debut week and I got a shirt off. Take the shirt off. It is. It's just it's just lagging. The whole thing is lagging. It's lagging. All right. Let's get to David Samson and let's get to your shirtlessness. There it is. Unflattering angles. There are no

ads there. David Samson has put on his glasses. What do you see there, David Samson? What is your vantage point? That he's trying to see G.I. abs on him by using marker. What? And in fact, it looks like a tick-tack toe board on the Michelin man. Billy, Billy just for a ruling, is he allowed to wear that scarf? He's chilly, man. You got to take off the scarf because you need to put on the chains and the glasses. What? Just paying off a Kurt Cousin's punishment.

Oh, a two-fer. The side angle, not terrible. Well, there's a tree in the back. Because that's a green sand, whatever he's doing, not terrible. Okay, so what he's done is he is successfully defeated. Maybe for Max, we could get the unflattering view. We can, we can, that opportunity pass. Oh, it's over.

The negotiation is over. I, David, help me understand what just happened with Stephen Ross and the breaking news that he has, he's a negotiations with a hedge fund manager to give, or not give, to sell a minority ownership in f1 and everything he's doing in the dolphins why is steven ross taking on a thirty five billion dollar uh... i'm sorry i'm not hearing you anymore than that may be me but i think it's more likely you because something happened when stew took a shirt off i stopped

hearing what can you hear us now because something happened when Stu took a shirt off, I stopped hearing. What can he hear us now? I hear you, Mike. I don't need him. You do not hear me. Okay, well, that. I think all of the sound waves from the big studio have been sucked up by Stu's shirtless appearance. Well, he was asking you about Stephen Ross.

What is he doing? So, Stephen Ross, here's what oxo-generians have to do. They have to do something called a state planning, which is what wealthy people do in order to protect their wealth for generations. And what it really is is tax avoidance. Because if you die with a lot of money, you owe the government, let's say 50% just for round numbers. So what generally has to happen after someone dies, is there a state has to do a sale in order to monetize assets to pay a tax?

All right, so who are they're back? Who is the person that he's going to be selling to because I know with a whole like Tom Brady thing there was this I think his name is Bruce Beale. He was essentially the owner of waiting, but the inclination is that that's over and done with after the NFL stepped in on all the tampering. Who is this Ken Griffin? How is he worth $35 billion? And you're saying this is largely a matter of accounting and estate planning? This is a matter of him selling the team.

What you're reading is that he's selling a minority piece. What really is going to happen is that it will be a minority piece with a path to control, which means there will come a time when he will own the entire franchise. You see that with other franchises. Our friend David Blitzer and Cleveland with the Indians bought the Indians with the guardians, excuse me, with a path to control.

You saw it with Alex Rodriguez and Mark Lour. By the way, A-Rod did the business deal of the century while no one was paying attention. He bought the Timberwolves for a billion and a half dollars but didn't pay for it. And by the time he's paying for it, the team is worth two and a5 billion and he's getting people to invest at that increased valuation.

All right, we've got issues with David Samsung. We'll boot it from the zoom. So what happens is you put a hashtag on it. I'm gonna let David go real quick. He's back, right? Yes, we are having some audio issues with you, David. I got today is not max day. It is good information that we're getting from you and I will tell the audience because

I'm guessing that he covered this on nothing personal. We will try to get David back and get the audio corrected here. But the way that he covers this stuff in the way that John Skipper covers it, it has more information that I'm used to hearing about what these business deals are. I am curious because I did not know until listening to it right now, how it is that Bruce Griffin has navigated the labyrinth that allows him to get into NFL ownership. Ken Griffin? Ken Griffin, excuse me. It's a fun, yeah. Griffy. That's you. Bill, excellent work by you. I'm glad that that's where you engage.

Thank you for always being helpful that way. I am curious when you have ownership changes, it usually comes with us knowing the people involved, the community knowing the people involved. And if he's talking about Stephen Ross selling the team and allowing different ownership than what was going to be happening because all that seemed to blow up around the Tom Brady stuff, Mike. It did. It did.

But if you're familiar with how Stephen Ross came to owning the Miami Dolphins, wasn't in a similar situation where he had minority stakes and he was sort of the owner and waiting. And then he took over the full share of the Miami Dolphins And he tried doing it with Bruce Beale, but that got blown up with the Brady stuff. So I know he's just trying it again. This seems to be the mo of this regime. We will get back to Samson.

He's trying to talk right now and his audio is not working. So because I have him down. All right, go ahead, David. What were you gonna say to that? I don't know where you lost me, except to tell you that Steven Ross is going to sell the dolphins in full not in part and he's doing it to a billionaire who is coming to Miami along with Jeff Bezos everybody's coming to Miami Dan

It's the place to be and he is whatever he's worth say 35 billion dollars. This is a great great ego purchase the dolphins forget whether they're a good team or not, but he's also getting the stadium, the formerly known Joe Robbie Stadium, and a piece of F1, which as you know does very well for liberty. And so it's a very large deal that makes a lot of sense given Steve Ross's age and his personal situation. Do you have any guesses that would be responsible on the value of what is being transacted here? So yeah, responsible. Yes, I can give you an estimate, given what we saw the commanders trade at six and a half billion dollars, given that there's other assets involved in this deal, the entire enterprise is likely going to be in the seven and a half to eight billion dollar range, and then it will be a matter of what percentage

he buys over what period of time. Okay. And that can Griffin is worth $35 billion. So eight billion dollars getting in for a percentage. Your thoughts are what on when he will be owning the team. And what the labyrinth is on getting through the other NFL owners to get to a team. And also you can speak to the history of damaged relationships that have minority owners in them because these pathways get crossed with money. Like this relationship needs to be solid. Generally, what happens is there is a five year period when you do a step transaction. And that means that you own the team over a period of time.

Let's say you get 10% to start and then you get 10% a year for five years. That's why it's called a path to control, but often it can happen sooner where the seller doesn't have a choice because the buyer can actually call the team away from the current owner and say, I want to give you the balance of your money now and take control now. And that's the biggest negotiation that takes place once you come to a price. Is Steven Ross still keeping his options open?

Because we learned with the whole Bruce Beal thing, Bruce Beal was pre-approved by the other owners to take over that stake. And then when he got out of the picture, Stephen Ross's daughter kind of entered the fray. And it's kind of whispered about that Stephen Ross's daughter doesn't necessarily want to let go of the Miami dolphins once he keep it in the family. Even after Stephen Ross is passing, is this a way for Stephen Ross to keep his options open as that kind of version of succession plays out? Well, generally when you do a transaction like this,

there is no way out. You cannot decide to break the deal when there's a path to control. If the buyer, like A-rod with the T-wolves or in this case, Griffin, if they can't... For the love of God All right, we're gonna let we're gonna let David go. It's just not working out. I love watching him toss I'm sorry David. Yeah, we're just gonna let David go. It's just not working out

Our apologies David. We're gonna try and see if we can get you back maybe He's done for the Wow, there it done for the day. Wow. Happy Thanksgiving. Wow. There it is. It's the showers. That's it. That's it. That's it. We broke up. It's not going to work out. We can't hear you, David. I mean, it's not, it's not down. You, it's, it's us. No attempt. Billy is ruined. Given our history, it's probably us. The Dan Laptop show was to got to sponsor by better help. The holiday season

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The alley has a bad reputation in general, right? It does. It's proud American history. But on South Beach, someone's always just sitting somewhere, smoking a cigarette. You can't go down an alley around here and not see someone sitting there smoking a cigarette. It retains a pulsating heat from the night before. You walk by some liquid that your like is that water. It's rain last night. That's definitely not water.

Avoid the liquid. Always avoid the liquids in an alley. Stugats! I venture to guess that if you were to rake your tongue on the asphalt of an alley, you would die immediately. I don't think it would be immediately though. First, you'd contract very quickly right before death, several sexual diseases, and then you would die immediately. I don't think it would be immediately, though. First, you'd contract very quickly right before death, several sexual diseases, and then you would die. This is the Don Lebatar Show with Estugats.

Billy is ruling with an iron fist. I'm gonna think that the audience is gonna find this shot of Estugats disappointing. He has successfully navigated the iron. Yes, you are. I cannot dispute that you are shirtless, but you. I love flower, Dan. Why didn't we not get this sponsored?

Yeah. Somehow you still look more like an idiot. It is sponsored by KFC. I'm pretty jacked, I mean. You could see the inner workings, Dan, when I was a kid, of a guy who had a great physique, right? You could see it. You've got Dan, when I was a kid, of a guy who had a great physique, right? You could see it. You've got a friend. You've got a friend.

You've got a friend. Yeah. I wanted to talk about what is happening on Fridays to God's because this is unusual. This is an unusual week. It's Wednesday of Thanksgiving week. A lot of people are going to have the next four days off to wrestle with their families. I want you to put this on the pole for me,

Juju at Levitard show. Wrestle holidays, joyful or stressful. Joyful or stressful because I'm getting triggered by Jared commercials. Oh boy. I don't know what's happening. They've made me sad for a long time. And I don't know what it is about the holidays. And I just want to ask you guys As we head into what can often be a stressful period with the family on Friday

You have not just the dolphins playing the University of Miami playing the latest biggest game of their season to determine whether the season was a Success or not it noon on Friday against Boston, the howling will last for months on Mario Christmaw. Either way, at the end of the season, but if you lose to B.C. with Van Dyke out here doing conference calls with reporters and I don't know if I'm going to be back next year. I don't know. I'm not, I'm only in my options now. And everybody's like, good riddance.

Go and let's see what's next. We got to see what's next here because the young players are their best players and he now represents the old regime and mario christmas is going to be fighting for his life in the state next year with these coaches just in the state in year three at least they have options now i mean these kids have options that's a good thing that's a positive thing as far as i'm concerned right but i'm guessing most of the university of my emi fans listening this are saying vand i can go now i'd like to see what progress looks like I'm guessing that that's not how I ever had all of that going Where the program was you guys will get to the dolphins in a second because they play the the one that's most interesting Friday you guys don't think a lot of people are just gonna miss that because it's prime and 30 and it's Friday

And you're not paying attention and you forget it's 3 30 is's an odd time, but I think people will be tuned in. We also got heat and panthers that day. Stacks sleep at three o'clock for an NFL game on an island. It's so weird. It's like, give me, give me 4 30 or give me one. It's not Saturday. I mean, it's not Saturday. Friday, little different.

Three o'clock. They're giving you time to get your stuff done, hang out with the family. I have nothing to do. I have nothing to do. I have sleep off the meal and watching. That's all I have to do. They should get me early. They should get your stuff done hang out with the family. I have nothing to do. I have nothing to do. I have sleeping off the meal. And watching, that's all I have to do. They should give me early. They should give me early.

You're schedule next time. I would appreciate that actually. They're giving you the witching hour on a Friday. You're going to be all soaked and tripped to fan. You're going to be disoriented. You guys are, you're, you're not, maybe usually off on a Friday. You've got family again, hectoring you. You're getting hit from every angle

by the in-laws and three, and you can't wait till seven o'clock gets here and everyone gets to bleep out of the house. And maybe you lose track of time somewhere. I'm telling you, Friday has the potential to disorient sports fans all over the world. Welcome the marriage, Dan. It's not marriage.

What is it? It is parents who have lost a child recently. You should be hanging out with them all weekend. Thank you, Stugas. I was going to say also marriage, but you kind of took the cake. I know. Well, I blame Stugas. I don't. I need it.

I think so inflation that could cost $400. And the reason I blame Stugas. Couple of topics for Thanksgiving dinner, if you'd like. Is because he knows so little about marriage that he wouldn't know to ask me Not ask me about the in-laws on an open microphone. Oh, I didn't ask you. I mean you let me there No, I didn't lead you anywhere. You could have set it out as you often do If you you were allowed to that right But fair. I'm sorry to. You're not?

I am. You're not. Still got you. I am. You're making me feel bad now. Still got it's golden here. You never leaves are tickling me. You never mean it when you apologize.

Your apologies have been ground to dust. They don't throw out the Middle East. See how that works. Where's Samson? See where people stand. The University of Miami conversation is over after this game? I think it's been over for a while. It's never over.

Well, they've still have a bowl game to play. 65 for 65 this week, Boston College. Well, this is the Blake James Revenge game. You can't let this Boston College. Oh, boy. I think Mario has been quoted because they're expecting some bad weather that actually might lean more into Miami's identity or pseudo identities.

Like there's no such thing as bad weather, just soft people. So we'll find out together on Friday. That should be a t-shirt. There's no such thing as bad weather, just soft people. Sounds better when you're 10 and 0. It does, and I will say that to normally this would be a game. If you care about the university, I mean, the season's already kind of kind of done without the signature win under your belt of Louisville, but low

key. It's a disastrous season. If the regular season ends with just one game improvement over last year, I kind of feel like Mario needs this one. And it's not the first time we've entered a game where it felt like, damn, Mario kind of needs this one. Thankfully, he won the last one against Clemson, which I guess would be his signature win. Now that Clemson has kind of righted the ship, thanks to Tyler, but you kind of need to have a little bit more improvement than just one win. This is just to see which crappy bull they end up in. Yeah, they should actually like reject a bull invite.

Like Mario, you told us last year, last year, they won a play in a bull game. Last year, they were in eligible, so it wasn't really his choice, but he said he didn't want to play in a bull game. He should do the same thing this year. And be like, now we're good. Hit the trail.

I actually do think he did, well, they're already in a bull game, no matter what. But at this point, last year was about purging the roster. And I do think that there... I was a big believer in the locker room just wasn't right. And there was an intangible thing that was kind of hanging over the team. And it just lacks certain intangibles. And I do think from watching them this year, they're fighting in games.

It's not the same kind of team that would quit last year. The talent has certainly improved. It's not the same kind of team that would quit last year. The talent has certainly improved. It's just the frustrating part for me is, as someone that bought in on all that, even though I see it on the field, it's not resulting in wins. So how much stock can you really take in that if it's only just one game improvement?

If I may though, okay, because you have been shaken as a fan who cares about this thing, because Colorado comes in and disrupts at the beginning of the season with new guy. How fast can you fix it? Mel Tucker's 10-in-1. Oh, that wasn't real. Oh, Lincoln Riley's a big season.

Oh, that wasn't real. It's not about fixing it for one season, though, you know, all of us remember Mark Ricks, number one hurricanes playing at Pittsburgh. That wasn't that long ago. Yeah, there were number two, but they would have been number one if they won that game and then Evan Sheriff showed up. And I'm talking pick it beat them. I know. It was unbelievable to see Miami in the top five with what all of us thought wasn't a good

enough team to be up there. But if I may, because this is not forgiveness for what it is, this happened with Mario Christobal, the expectations to come with $80 million are immediate and they are profound, especially since we're doing this so overtly as business now. You get the best players. We pay you a lot. We pay them a lot.

I don't know how much Van Dyke made. It's a lot to got those reports where the tongue of a lawyer, two was brother tongue of a low was in transition brother, tongue of a law, was in. Get transitioned to the first name. You can just call it. Yeah, tell you. That in Maryland, SEC teams were offering him more money than rookie quarterbacks are making in the NFL.

Right. Are we stuck with Mario Crystal Ball? Is that the deal? Like, is he gonna be here for eight years? Well, already here to be here for it already here no I'm not asking this mic I am not asking this to upset you upset the family call them a failure several times on a bad coach but I will I will say that yeah they are they are in year two of an eight year eighty million dollar deal this is not the type of institution that is like Texas a.m. There are no $160 million donations

that are gonna be unveiled at halftime. This has to work. Okay. That likely has to. And the NIL investment, that also has a time limit too. There's seed money provided to this coaching staff. It's not going to be sustainable. The whole plan is build a good program, invest early,

and then once you have a winning program the recruiting becomes a lot easier. But you see in college programs all across the country who's the coach that went and got it right. Is there two of them? Three of them? So immediately, immediately. Did you get it right because they're four and seven now and not making a hole? It's Kirby smart. But no, it took time for Kirby smart too. No, it took time for Nick Saban. Like, immediately, it's tough to find those examples. Part of the course. However, I do think, and Dan's got to get in here in a second, but I do think that the timeline on that kind of stuff has been shortened because of things like the transfer

portal. You can afford to have less patience. It can be a serious, I don't think it's a serious discussion now. No one's really talking about with any sort of legitimacy, Mario, Cristobal and byout. Those are things that we're kind of projecting right now. But in year three, if they lose to Florida,

that conversation does start in earnest. Well, my point in everything it is that I just described that Mel Tucker didn't actually fix it. Lincoln Riley didn't actually fix it. You have to take long view on these things to God's in our lifetime. The teams have basically been that have done it long time. University of Miami, USC, Alabama, and now Georgia. There's some Ohio state in there, but like just sustained stuff where you know you're getting 10 wins every year and you know you're a national championship contend. It took Jim Harbob about four or five years. But Mike, who's involved

in the boosterism and the economy of this thing, is sitting here saying at these microphones that Mario Cristobal at the end of year two has a kind of needed game, another kind of needed game. And what I'm telling you is the timeline on all this money has been fast forwarded if that's where we are. Like if Chris Ball is playing for hot seat next year, this was supposed to be an eight-year contract and Miami doesn't have the business money to afford four years of buyout. Look, it boosters and the administration, everyone's talking about the ACC where you stand, we're not getting enough money, Vanderbilt's making six to like seven figures more than us

with our TV deal and all that stuff needs to be prioritized over a potential buyout. You can't be talking buyout with this coach at this moment. Don Lebertard. At the end of our conversation with Alex Smith, and we talked for about 30 minutes, but I feel like nobody is going to remember anything about that conversation other than how you fell flat at the end with your very last word. Listen to how Stugots

here at the end of this interview says goodbye, just exhausted to Alex Smith. That's still got what happened? Alex? I'm dead. I'm exhausted. I haven't stopped talking in a month. I mean, I don't know what to tell you. VCC down, Libertar Show with this still got. Stu got is saying here he is promising me whisper

central through central whispers. Dan, I'm gonna start removing some plants soon. Yep. I'm gonna do it Dan. We'll start with this one right here. Let's move this one just a little bit. We'll put it right over here Get people a better view. Let them take it all in. I don't think I think you took a tiny one and put it in a place Where it is blocking the plants more views move you didn't say okay? You You didn't say, okay, you're going to be moving plants, but you're not going to be moving plants to reveal more. So, antics. Perhaps, Dan, we'll see.

We'll see how the segment goes. Right. I said moving, not removing. I mean, that's what I said. And so, so far, I have moved one little plant from this side of my computer to the left side of my computer. We'll see how the rest of the segment goes. I mean, Roy with a surgical semantics thrown in there. this side of my computer to the left side of my computer. We'll see how the rest of the segment goes.

Roy with a surgical semantics thrown in there. Roy Billy was making fun of you before the show today. I was. Because while you were saying I was wondering the Panthers have started their good. Roy practically skipped out of here yesterday through I've never seen such happiness through the garage because he's got a good hockey team. He knows his hockey team is good. It's it's yet last year was not a fluke and now Roy is doing after the game but Billy was saying well what about tonight? Are you doing anything after the game? Big one tonight. The bees huh? There's more of a lump by the way not really a skip. Roy skipping is something I'd pay to see. He

was happy. Roy you're not. Roy tell me I'm is something I'd pay to see. He was happy. Roy, you're not, Roy, tell me I'm saying any falsehoods when I say Roy is happy because he knows he's got, I'm happier, not happy. Roy is happier because he knows he has a good hockey team. Sure, I mean, I'm glad that this team is currently winning right now, it's second place in the, the real.

Look at that joy. Look at that effort, Vashore. Like a champagne bottle opening. Listen, I'm a realist, Dan, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the was the come right. Okay, so anyways, so tonight the Bees are in town. Yes, post game. After the game with the Roy tonight, no, we are recording a show before the game.

Oh, it's a great game for the game. This is what Billy was making fun of. Is it after the show with Roy? Is it after the game with Roy? Is it before the game with Roy? It's a it's a convoluted concept. It's just a hard to know when the plan to watch the show. No guys. I got this. It's Roy's weekly show previewing

the biggest game of the season. No. Sure. All right. Hmm. But it's just it's just a Florida Panther segment. No, no, it's also national. We are we also want to end up spending but but shenanin booji man shenanin be after the games then. After no Thursday is Thanksgiving so we can't exactly do it. When it's called after the game Thursday Thanksgiving today's Wednesday. Today's Wednesday we're recording a show

that's going to be released today before the game. What is it have to do with Thanksgiving? Because we can't record on Thursday. We usually record. But there's no game on Thursday. We usually record on Thursday. But there's no game on Thursday. But after the game tonight. After the game suggests,

and there's a game on Friday home. I don't like what's happening here. It's Friday's game. Can I have a post-kits show? Roy Show immediately after the game when we do the post-kits. But it seems like it's a show just for Roy, because you don't know when it is.

I've listened to you and David, and it seems like it's just a Panther segment. Roy, I'm going to night. I'll do that. I'll do after the game with you. Well, no, it's not today. Today's he's doing after the show. Right.

But I'll be there. My point is that I'm willing to. Right, but he's not doing it. No, but he could put out the weekly preview today and then I'm willing to do an after the game with the three points. Are most weekly previews on a Wednesday? Not necessarily, no. But it is when it's the biggest game of the year.

This is a Wednesday that he was like a Friday, though. But you can excuse the narrow focus because it's such a big game. Yeah, it's the biggest game in the year. This is a Wednesday that he was like a Friday, though. But you can excuse the narrow focus because it's such a big game. Yeah, it's a huge game. So yes. There seems to be a bit of a confusion here. Can we just lay out the schedule for the fans trying to consume all of this content?

Hold on a second. Okay, right now, what is happening inside, I mean, what royals inside of me is gurgling with such a furious, furious frenzy. I need to explain to the audience what, on behalf of Metal Arc Media, I'm feeling right now. You have a club in your hand. Don't brew in the segments. Whoa!

Oh, no! I didn't have the journalists. No! Brew in the segment! It's pretty simple. It's after the game with Roy, sometimes, unless it falls on a week where there's Thanksgiving, and we're gonna do the preview show on a Wednesday

that will come out on Thursday, previewing the Wednesday game that already happened. With David Dwarf. And the Hockey's. Roy, what? What? What, Royals within me, and this is what Billy mocks from the shadows over there delighting in it sounds like mocking me what Roy it deserves mocking because it doesn't

Roy okay yes it does there's a lot of confusion here Roy you have debuted at play there we you know I know we give out these platforms but they're really valuable like really valuable that's that's real estate on one of the biggest sports properties on the and so you have the show that that that is yours because we give microphones to people and you don't know when it is how it is how to sell it and uh... you uh... when we ask you what it is you tell us it's national and scope and you and david d you what it is, you tell us it's national in scope,

and you and David Dork are always talking about the Panthers. There's two shows here. There's after the game with Roy sometimes, and then there's his weekly thing, what's that called? This is your big chance. When I have a title. You have a title? Yes.

Trying to help you. There's one show that doesn't have a title. Yes. One that does have a title. What's the second show talking about? What is the second show is the post game show immediately after the game? No, that's after the game with Roy.

Yes, the weekly one is all encompassing NHL recap that he does with David. With no name, that's the name. That's the first name. Wait, why is that the name? What is the title? I got my finger right on the posting. All encompassing.

How do we pull on NHL after the game after the game is Roy they play the open? You're playing fast music playing and you start what do you say? How do you introduce the show? Not even the music. What is the title that someone would even search for? How do you find it? I just make up a title at the start of every show. Okay, so like game though, you're probably

you're the best. No, this is the post game after the game. You're not talking about awesome Matthews on this show I'm talking about a big you're talking about cool a cop Mike Ryan has my Ryan has so much good Edmonton Euler stuff Well, I mean good is a relative term, but I'm very confused as to what's happening with Conor McDavid Can I talk about it with a host of after the game sometimes where would you put it? Yes, I hope

Unless it's Thanksgiving week occasionally with David to work. Yes. May I talk to you about the admin? Sure. Are both with David to work? Yes. I'm the guy that says show. This is the same show. It's the same show. It's not the same show.

We are really reacting to the Panthers game. Once before, once after it Roy's the player. We may have been reacting after you're taping it today. They played it night. There's nothing after the game. Because it's Thanksgiving. Tomorrow. I have to play it tomorrow. I have to play it tomorrow. They played a night. There's nothing after the game because it's Thanksgiving. Tomorrow, before the game. Thank you for being tomorrow.

I was impressed. That's so octave. I was impressed. When does Edmonton come to town? So I know when Michael beyond this, if there's nothing else. Well, they actually played. So we're actually talking about after the game.

Oh, yeah. The Panthers went down to zero and that game came back. And one, Edmonton has two generational talents on their team with Conor McDavid who is consensus the best player in the NHL and Leon dry-sidal who is a monster especially on the power play best you've ever seen the two best players in the history of the power play According to you who are playing next to each other. I think I think there's certainly for the modern era There's an argument to be made in terms of a tandem, best power play tandem in the history of the game, Leon Drys' SIDLE and Conor

McDabby. They've already fired their head coach this year. They were expecting that new manager bump hadn't quite happened yet. I'm really struggling to find out what's happening with Edmund. It seems as though the answers have been the Achilles heel of that team the entire time because they've had a good team that's been in the playoffs and they're always undone by goalkeeping. This is still the issue for Edmonton there, but it's getting to the point now in the season especially if you look at the sanding said, do you call this a failed experiment so far in Edmonton because you have really young pieces over there that you build around a person that you'd like to keep in that sweater and

Conor McDavid and Triceyde will for that matter for the entirety of their careers You're not supposed to have players in their prime playing this well on a team that's performing this poorly and Naturally people are gonna be in CYA mode. Do you look to rebuild? They're it's not really a discussion yet outside of the players anyone would want. Oh yes. And but I'm saying that that becomes the I don't only becomes a discussion when that are those are the ingredients right and like the angels. I mean, a ton of GMs are going to be knocking like it is a lot like trout and Otani right in I'm sure the GM for the last several years has had to rebuff teams trying to poach their best talent,

because what are you playing for this year? This year's the last year. Is that a real conversation? Maybe not so much with McDavid, but with dry cider. Well, dry cider has one, after this season has one year left on its contract, he has a modified no trade clause, so he can give 10 teams that he would want to trade to.

McDavid has two. Is Florida one of them? Well, he hasn't given the list yet. He hasn't given the list yet. I can't listen to you. You got to listen to an extra day for tomorrow. But after the season, Conno McDavid has two years left on his contract.

You tell him right. There's another thing that's hanging out. I can't see the season with Roy. That's the third show after the season. The extra game. But Mike gets renewed. When would that be after the season with Roy that's the third show after the season. The exit cap. But it gets renewed. When would that be after the season?

They're taking tomorrow. They're taking it tomorrow. Yeah, thanks, give it. I have one more question for the host of after the game after the after the season before the game on a Thanksgiving week occasionally sometimes with David Dwork of the hockey news. Is Patrick can signing with the Florida Panthers? David Dwork of the hockey news. Is Patrick Kane signing with the Florida Panthers?

Well, he's definitely, he's definitely yet the Panthers is one of the teams on his list. So, I don't know, I don't know. So Patrick Kane right now is available for anyone. He's taking meetings. Do you remember when Dion Sanders was auditioning teams and he was like sitting in and dolphin games before he finally settled on going with the Niners?

That's what Patrick Kane is doing, but is Patrick Kane at that level anymore? I mean, the Rangers picked him up last year and do much for depth. It's good, but is this a move you want to see the Panthers make and do they have a legit shot? I actually thought they were going to Buffalo. I mean, that's his hometown and that's an up and coming team there. But yeah, the pants have a legit shot of landing him. Yeah. Roy, this is what I'm here to tell you, okay?

Metal Arc Media and these platforms are so large and important. He's moving the plant. That a lot of people are trying to partner with us. They want to partner and go into business on being able to share platforms with us. This is an enormous opportunity for you. After the game before the game,

sometimes with David Dork, sometimes not, sometimes. Always with David Dork. Always with David. That is the one. That's the one. DT's podcast partner. Double D. Okay, all right.

Don't leap this up. I'll try not to. It hasn't started very strong. Thanks, Dan. i'll try not it hasn't started very strong thanks then