The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Don't Let The Heat Win Two

Episode Date: February 27, 2026

"Aerosmith owes the other America..." The Heat listened to Jeremy and dropped both of their games this week, the Lakers are ALSO falling apart, and Amin knows another thing or two about basketball. Plus, the Canes are taking on the Gators at The Light, but there's nothing more important than Dameshek's R.E.M. fury overflowing from one day to the next. Today's cast: Zaslow, Dameshek, Amin, Chris, Jeremy, Mike, Roy, and Tony. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Learn more at aboutamazon.ca. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stucats podcast. Well, it's a good thing that we were warned. Good thing we were warned at the beginning of the week where Jeremy walked in here and he told us, don't let the Miami Heat win both games this week. If they won both games this week, that would be a five-game winning streak. All right. If they won both games this week, they'd have been sitting six games over 500.

Season best is seven games over 500. Don't let us win both games this week. And it's a good thing you warned us, Jeremy, because they did not. You're welcome. I was prescient. The league took notice and sent out its best in the form of Milwaukee and Philadelphia to make sure the mission was carried out. So who is the one that heeded Tashay's counsel and got in the way of the heat winning two in a row? It's somebody in this room, I assume.

Is it Zaslow? Is he the responsible party? No, I mean, I was on board, you know. I told you the other day, I get sucked in momentarily with this heat team where, you know, they're looking good to me. I like watching Jaime Hakez, and I like watching Kela Ware and Casperus Jacerz and Pella Larson. I can get into this team. And then they get smoked in the fourth quarter against a bad Milwaukee team. And then last night, they stunk last night.

They stunk last night. They stunk in the first half. The second half was a close game. It was nip and tuck. It was back and forth. And then I thought Spoh just stuck with a lineup that wasn't great for a little too long in the fourth. And that's when Philly made its move. And then at the end, when you needed to make every shot and have them not make shots, that didn't happen.

Right. And the biggest shot, of course. Well, the big play was the maxy layup where Adam Bonas was playing as Larry Allen. Offensive linemen just shoving everybody out of the way. No call. No call on that. But then the big shot was Embed hit the shot, and you got to give them credit. Look, respect.

The guy hit a big 30. I don't respect. You don't respect it? He's been playing great the last like 10, 15, 20 games. He's played really, really well. They're good. That's why you guys said, oh, and then he lost a Philly. Like, Philly's a good team.

And really good when they have Mbiby. Well, what does that mean good team? Like, they're going to get to the playoffs. You think they're going to win a series? Well, they're 21 and 12 when they have Mbed. Okay. Answer my question, though. You think you don't win a series in class?

Maybe. Because the odds are they're going to be injured. That's why we're saying no. Whoa, Tony, get off that ledge, dude. I said maybe. If you told me they were healthy, I'd say yes. I think they could win a series. They could win two series.

They could win the East. Who's the best bet besides the Celtics to get to the finals? From the East? Because we, as we've discussed all week long now, there is a reason. You know, you can put the mic where you can just not have to make your face awkward. No, I just like to move it around. It gives me gravitas to move it wherever I'm going. It's a power move.

Why does Zazzo? No, Zaslo's got the power move. You know, he has a weird move. He rests his arm atop his coffee. He rests. Why are you taking my coffee? Because I want to, I want to model your behavior. It's my elbow.

It's not dirty. Zaslo uses his own coffee thing. I do. As a, to prop up his elbow. That's a power move. Look how cash I am, everybody. We've discussed that the Celtics with trying to reintegrate Jason Tatum. I think it's a little.

little overstated how hard it's going to be for that team that is pretty ripe. But if it's not the Celtics, I mean, who is it? I mean, people are not going to like this answer. It's the Knicks? The Knicks are the most complete team. The Knicks are so much reason, like, not to believe during the regular season. But they did that last year, too. They did that last year.

They got their heads beaten by the Celtics every time they saw them. And then when they saw them in the playoffs, a lot of people are going to revision this history said, Tatum got hurt. Tatum got hurt after it was over. It was like, at the end of about to go down three, Put them in the dirt. Yeah, it was like put them in the dirt time. And so I think the Knicks have it all.

Their thing is just, hey, can we consistently defend when we have both towns and Brunson on the foot at the same time? Can towns really step up? Those are the question marks, but it's like scoring, they've got scoring. Clutch scoring, they've got it. Rebounding, they've got it. Defense on the wings, they've got it. They've got everything.

There's nothing that they lack, right, in a way that I could say Detroit doesn't have shooting, in a way that I could say, well, I mean, I guess. Cleveland now with Hardin. Cleveland's interesting. It's just not going to be Detroit. We can eliminate them because, as we've also discussed, the NBA is progressive. Its post seasons are in the sense that you do not come out of nowhere

make the postseason and make a deep playoff run. Well, they got their small taste last year. Now they win around or maybe even two. They're not going to the finals. So we can eliminate them as well. The thing that concerns me about Detroit, because I think Detroit's great. But the thing that concerns me about Detroit is a little bit of what we saw earlier in the week when they played. I think it was San

Antonio, right? And they lost the game, but not just lost the game where Cunningham was five at 26. And what's it going to look like when we get to the playoffs? And the other team you're playing in a seven game series is going to hone in on you on a nightly basis, that being Cade Cunningham. Are you going to be able to find a way to still have great offensive nights? I mean, it's going to be tough, right? Because if you get to double denying him on the ball, returning that back way, you have Jalen Duren, who's a monster down low. I looked him up.

He's incredible. He's good. Yeah, he's a very good player. Yeah, he's good. You told me to look him up, and I did it, and he's good. Jalen Duren could be the key to unlocking. If he can reach that potential in the playoffs, and he can play the way that he's playing,

double-double machine, maybe sprinkling a 20 and 15 game here and there. Like, that's the team that can throw it back to the old-school 2004 Pistons and, like, really be a problem for teams that want to run in good. gone, right? Because outside of K to mean, like, there's not a ton of offense on that team. It's not even, it's just no creation, right? It's no creation. It's no guy that if Kate is getting doubled and he throws it out, now this guy is attacking four on three and can make stuff happen. There's no guy that when Kate sits, I can run the offense. I can do this. I mean, like, yeah, Dennis Jenkins and cares. It's like, these are not.

Kerosliver can get a bucket. Yeah, but it's, but it's not enough to carry a team offense. Is that what we're talking about? We're talking about if I take Kate off the table, which is what a playoff team will do. That's what I'm talking about. A good playoff team is going to take him off the table and at that point it's on someone else to make it hurt so bad that the

defense goes back to, all right, let's say like Kate, get a couple. You'd rather that than hemorrhaging over here, four on three or whatever it is. They don't really have that guy. And if they have that guy, I don't have him as being experienced enough to, because a lot is decision making. Duncan Robinson has

plenty of experience. Sure. And you want to trust him in the playoffs. You certainly want to. You want to. Big shot, Duncan. I'm not letting you skate, though, Jeremy. Yeah, he's so happy.

I'm not letting you get out of this. That's right. I haven't forgotten. No one in here has forgotten. Oh, you said skate. Those Panthers, huh? Oh, don't worry. That was a big dub.

That was a big dub. Took that ass last night. Roy, what did you think about that? Don't deflect. No, no, Roy, don't take the bait. You're going to fall for the rope adope. You're too smart for that. We're not getting to that yet.

I'll wait on it. Jeremy started the week. games this week. And after we're feeling good about this team, post All Star break, a three-game win streak, they lay a turd burger the other night and they lay another turd burger tonight. Wouldn't call last night. It is a turd burger. It is. They took the lead with two minutes and 45 seconds left in the game. They didn't score again. They were down 18. All right. They came back from down 18 in the second half and then we're up by one with two minutes left. That's right. And their guys made shots at home. Win the game.

talking to me like this Philadelphia team's any good. Here's Bam at a bio. Listen to Bam. Take it from Bam. He's frustrated. Here's Bam. After the game last night, as the Miami Heat lose both the games that Jeremy warned everyone not to let the heat win.

I said don't let them win because I would become annoying. Like I said, and Bam. But they lost, and you're still annoying. We accomplished nothing. I don't know what you're talking about. Is very frustrated. We can play hard enough. Effort was the issue in first time?

Yeah. So what changed in the second half of you guys? So we played harder. I mean, obviously you see the energy shift when we're playing harder, we're diving on the floor and making multiple efforts. This was a big game, a lot of, you know, some stakes to it in the standings. How do you kind of explain that effort was an issue just in the first half? You know, the game was some of the importance.

He didn't play hard enough, bro. I mean, I don't not explain effort. I don't want to be in the . . . . . more. We're better than being in the plan every for the last four years. See, that's the part I'll disagree with. If you're in that spot, four straight years, I don't know that you're actually better than it. That's who you are.

And it seems like... It's not one year, it's four years. Just from his tone, it seems like that's starting to wash over him. Thank God I got the raise as a part of this package as well. Because I paid for this Miami Heat. Oh, when did... So when did... So when did you take the punch?

I wanted to believe. I saw, you know, the Norm Powell thing. Was it when Jeremy said at the beginning of the week, not to let the heat win both games? No, no, I did it like a couple months into the season. I'm like, at a certain point, the Miami Hurricanes football season will end, and I'll need another distraction to get me to the next Miami Hurricanes football season, or at the very least.

Did it serve its purpose? No. I've seen three games, all of which Jeremy's been on the broadcast, and I haven't seen a single dub yet. I feel like it's been a really long time. I don't have it in front of me. I feel like it's been a really long time. time since the Heat have beaten a team that's like good.

Yeah. Again. How's Jeremy doing? Hate being right about this. Hey, going back to the NBA. I'm really good. I'm super into that. We're all the NBA.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but the rest of the NBA and teams that actually matter. You mentioned Cleveland. The acquisition of James Hardin. You know, can I walk back my initial James Hardin legacy takes? Because I actually think he's going to make a huge impact for this team. And it's because Garland wasn't given them anything. So they just essentially added James Harder for nothing. Yeah.

And they did so with the intention of like, man, we need somebody to help us get over the Knicks. Now, I only got a one-game sample. And James Hardin did hurt his thumb. He intends to play through that. Yeah, he's questionable for tonight. So James Hardin seems to have been a really big-time acquisition for the Cleveland Cavs, and I kind of believe. Well, didn't he just like break his hands? And I know what I'm saying.

I'm coupling Cleveland and James Hardin. Two irresistible forces are colliding that can't do anything in the playoffs famously. They can't get over the- You're on a hot streak, Mike. bet on the Leafs to win the cup while you're at him. Why is James Harden suddenly at whatever age he is going to turn his entire career around and disprove all of it? It's crazy enough that I think it might work. He's got better guys around him. He's been on a lot of real good teams over the quarter.

Yeah, they're really good because of him. I'm going to outsource my argument to what me and L. has and why this is crazy enough that it just might work. Own a friend. Yeah, it's like, yeah, he's been on a lot of really good teams. Because of him. They were good teams because of him, not because. He joined a team already in progress that was good. The Sixers were good because of James Harder.

The Sixers were good because when they were healthy, they were good. What happened was nobody was healthy. Nobody was healthy, right? And so James Harden, his last playoff run with the Sixers, he was incredible until the last game. You know what people didn't ask about? Joel Embed not being so great in that series. They don't talk about that because he's a lightning rod Hardin is.

if you look at the best teams he was on where the Houston Rockets team was 100% because of him. And so he's coming to this situation. And he said at his age, I would accept that if there were signs of deterioration. He's playing great. He's been playing great when he was with the Clippers. He's playing great as a Cav.

But now he's being asked to do less than he probably was with the Clippers or even the Sixers before that. It's a much easier role. You're right. He doesn't have to carry the load. Really quick, the last good team, the Miami Heat beat, was January 17th, where they beat the Thunder 122-120. That was a great game.

Yeah, like this past three-game win streak for the heat. They beat the Pelicans, the Hawks, and the Grizzlies. They've got seven of their next eight at home, and it's so funny because they've lost some of these games that are so frustrating, right? You're terrible in Milwaukee against Milwaukee, and yet at different times of the year, you beat the Thunder, you beat the pistons, and you wonder what the team looks like at their upside, and then they have games like this, where you get to, get frustrated because you go and have such an opportunity this week to go get two on the road, put yourself in a good position. And you don't.

It's the reason why BAM is so frustrated. It's the reason why Eric Spolstra is saying to embrace the privilege of the pressure. But what it is is now you've got seven of eight at home and a bunch of them are against bad teams. So if you don't take advantage now. What are they got tomorrow? They've got on Sunday they've got the rockets. And then but then after that it's like Brooklyn twice. I think they have

They'll go to Charlotte, which is going to be actually a tougher game. But then there's Washington in there. They're going to face teams that matter here in the standings because they'll play Orlando in a week too. So there's all these teams that they're sitting right around. They'll get the struggling Lakers at some point. Hey, at least right now if you're a heat fan, you're not a Lakers fan. Because you don't have Luca Donchich, LeBron James, Austin Reeves,

and you're flailing. They lost at the buzzer last night. Flailing. Can I tell you? Hey, it's Mike Ryan, and I want to talk to you about the random midweek hang that you have with your friends. Maybe it's an NBA game. You get a text, hey, come over. You want to watch the game, and maybe you're like, I don't know. I kind of just wanted to stay home. And then you think about it. After your buddy hits you up, and you know just the thing that'll make that regular hang, that regular midweek hang around the basketball game into a special time, into a Miller time. That's right. This happened to me just last week. I grabbed a six-pack of Miller Light, said I was on my way.

And next thing you know, we're arguing about rotations like we're on the coaching staff, yelling about a miss call. And the game's coming down to the final possession. It was one of those nights that you look around, you take a sip, and you think, yeah, this was the right call. And my friendship's stronger for it. Cheers to legendary moments with Miller Lite. Great taste, 96 calories. Go to Miller Lite.com slash Dan to find delivery options near you.

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You're a Panther group chat, though. No, I think, no, but dude, you're so wrong on that. We've been terrified of this team forever, and I think there's a different energy where the Panthers, they want the lightning. Stugats. I want T-shirts made for this Panther run. What could be this Panther run? Our Panther group chat, we're not afraid of the lightning. That's a tagline.

for World RAR 3. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. Can I tell you about the Lakers real quick? Tell me about the Lakers. I know we talked about it yesterday where they're not going to win a series. They're not going to win a first round series. I'm amending what I just said there. They won't win a playoff game.

Oh, they're going to get sweat. Yep. They won't win a game. I think it depends on who they play. I don't know if you could just outright say that. Okay, well, right now they're sixth in the West. Which means they play the three. Which means they would play Houston, maybe it's Denver.

They can win games against Houston. I think they're going to win zero playoff games this year. If it's Denver, they're getting swept. I'll bet you all that. If it's Houston, I think they can win a couple of games. If it's San Antonio, by the way, for that matter, I think they can win a couple of them. I think Luca can have a 50 burger in there and lead him to a victory. I mean, in 41 last night, they still didn't win.

At the buzzer, though. Dude, did you see Clint Capella with the clapback? I was so proud of him, right? Because I'm like, how do you respond to something like? this. You know, like, you know, do you do the usual day, like, let's compare resumes. Oh, it's meant as an insult to cling to.

No, no, no, for sure. But I'm like, how does Capella, I'm like, how's Capella going to respond? So if you don't know. I would think Capella would be. Let's set it up. Hold on. Let's set it up. The report from Dave McMahon the other night is that DeAndre Aiton was yelling, they're trying to turn me into Clint Capella, right? And yes,

as Zaz says, it was, that's absolutely meant as a derogatory statement. Like, I'm this and you're to make me into this. Even though there's no evidence of him being this. Yeah. Or even being higher than Capella in terms of career achievement. Right.

If you have the Lakers right now, would you roll the dice on what you think D'Andre A can beat or would you take Clint Capella? Prime Clint Capella? It's not just the Lakers. It's 30 NBA teams would say that. And probably a bunch of G-League teams and probably a bunch of international teams as well. Now, this arrives on Clint Coppell's doorstep. Of course, you can't avoid it.

Something like that has said. the media, social media is going to come to you. And so I was wondering, how do you respond? Do you do the resume thing? Do you talk about, hey, man, and he hit him with the most, it's like simultaneously, high road and got him right between the eyes. He says, you got two of the best floor generals in the league. Lock in.

And it's like, it's perfect. It's like, it's like, yo, this is the place of privilege you live in. you should be more focused on that than what little old me is doing or what a little old me has done it's awesome I loved it's awesome I don't think they'll want a single game I don't think they're going to win a single playoff game this year the best part about Aiton is in that report wasn't the clink Capella thing there's so much in that story it was DA's crunk juice yeah you know that crunch juice I have a whole about that crunch juice that apparently I know you are according to McMedaman, the Lakers training staff

wraps Aiton's water bottle and has it say, DA's crunk juice, drink this to unleash the beast to keep him motivated. So I've got J.T.'s Crunk juice right here. It's a nice latte. It's like a little bit of what's it called? Space Jam.

Cocaine? Yeah. Cocaine. By the way, I didn't know what you were doing. By the way, that crunk juice led to two points and four rebounds. Dominating. I like that Zaslo showed up. He's like Like, why fix what ain't broke? I'm wearing the hat backwards to close out the week.

And then he also makes a statement calling back to where we've been the last couple of days. You want to talk about Best American Band, Metallica. A lot of people hit me up about that, that that was a major omission collectively to not throw out Metallica. They don't make my list, but I guess they're worthy of consideration, right? Like the gold standard, which we should have spent more time on, the Eagles, I think, with some time to reflect on it, we probably should have heart from that. I do want to get to that.

A little bit more. Just like Metallica, they were just casually mentioned. Metallica can lay claim to best American band. You mentioned the Grateful Dead. Yeah, I did. No.

Number one, flatly, no. No. No, the band, they're basically just on the metal sand. The band that dominated summer touring for half a century. They reject them. Yeah, no, not. You know who also draws a bunch?

Fish. Yeah. Fish also draws a bunch. No one's confusing them for the best ever. Yeah, Shake Down Street, great song. Shake Down Street. Yeah, awesome little ditty. The rest of them, just one big song.

They're disco years? They're not even silver gold medalist in the Bay Area. You know about that Sugar Magnolia? It's like Green Day and Metallica can take the Bay Area. I was surprised that Green Day didn't come up. Green Day. What you're throwing out here, Mike Ryan. Better Band.

Year of the Lord, 2026. Yes. Green Day over the Grateful Dead. Way better. I like Green Day a lot. They are not comparable to the Grateful Dead. In terms of influence? In terms of influence?

What are you talking? Dominating for decades. Declanacea. Wait a second. Wait a second. Influence? You know how many sound-alikes came off of Green Day? Literally every band that spawned after.

Pop Punk? I mean, what are we talking about? Dominated. They established pop-pump. influences the world? It's not about establishing. It's do I, like, when people start doing this, they're like, well, what got you into?

Like, oh, Green Day. That's the idea. It's not like, you have, like, it's the same thing Michael Jackson. You said, you think Michael Jackson was, what about James Brown? Like, those guys were all incredible. I think your chronology is all out of whack, fellas. The Green Day does not emerge in a vacuum with, I mean, the Seattle thing is already happening. That's actually not true.

Dave, you know about that? Duky? I know about Duky. When does Duky happen? Green Day and Nirvana both had their first hits happen at the same time. Early 90s, 91. Same time as the Red Hot Chili Peppers for that matter. Okay. So that's same year. Red hot chili peppers also deserve a claim. On the list, absolutely. So what you're describing is a wave of sound winning, of adjacent sounds kind of all emerging at once. In other words, Green Day was not a trailblazer. We all stand. We all stand. on the shoulders of giants. You don't have to trailblaze. Listen to Kareem over there.

If I influence millions of people to follow me, even if I ripped off my act from one guy that nobody heard of. I'm not down on being derivative. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying if you're holding up Green Day as a massive influence for the next generation, I think you're taking it too far. I don't want to park my car in the garage. What garage are you in? Done. He's outside.

Well, I also, what we failed to mention is, and I don't know how you separate the two, so I'm just entering them as one band, Allman Brothers, Leonard Skinner. That is in the conversation. If you went in the conversation, or if you went one, two great American bands, you're going on to go to the place here.

No, as one. They count on one line together. But you're talking about them to the very top? It still is REM, number one. It's never been R&M. You can argue that all you want. Who are they influenced?

It's all right, says. You're right. Who are they? Yes, today. Who are they? It's available. Listen, You guys say it into a microphone.

Then people listen on the other end and they go, boy, Amin is right. They really didn't influence anybody. And then you go online and you can look up a wealth of quotes from Kurt Cobain and Eddie Vetter that I started to tell you yesterday. They cite REM as their influence. Your point yesterday was that they're influential. College radio. That was your point yesterday. No, no.

No, no. I also mentioned by name Kurt Cobain and Eddie Vend. better and I should throw in Tom York of radio. Where's Kirk Cobain now? Oh, man. Too soon. I mean, plenty of people cite Bob Dylan and Bruce Springsteen as influences. Three of the biggest bands in the last, in the last 40 years cite REM as their influence.

And that's not influencing them. What are you talking about? Everybody cites Bob Dylan, and Bob Dylan sucks. I don't know what that has to do with anything. Because the crux of your argument is that they inspired so many people. people. They were this influential band. Bob Dylan influenced many and he sucks. So, and so is that what you're putting that,

R.E.M. on Bob Dylan's level? I like R.E.M. more than I like Bob Dylan because Bob Dylan sucks. Totally. I mean, I'm not going to fight you on Bob. I'm not wild for Bob Dylan. That's bad. But what I have said, I don't think you were here, Mike. We did talk about the Eagles. And by the way, it's properly Eagles, not the Eagles. It's like talking heads. Really? Also, they are, to me, the classic. They are the personification of a system band. Just as you have a system QB, Alex Smith doesn't work in every NFL environment.

But if you get him in the right spot, boy, does he sing. Same thing goes with the Eagles. See? System of a down. I think in a sentence you can say, right? Golden Hour in Southern California driving around, that's your soundtrack. Hey, system of a down had an opportunity. Come on.

But they went away. Just like Rage had an opportunity. Where's rage when you need them most? Just like Nirvana had an opportunity, then they went away. What happened there? Well, come on. You're asking the right question. Declassified the files.

What about Imagine Dragons? Oh, my God. What? What about Nickelback? I wanted that. That was a joke. Nickelback's Canadian. It's a shame because they'd be there too.

Here's like the real mind bender. What do we do with Fleetwood Mac? They're not eligible. Why not? Why not? They're great. Stevie and Lindsay. I mean, basically,

everybody's American except for the dude that the band's named after. Where did they record their first album? Is that how you do it? It's got to be Cali. I think it counts. Were you recorded your first album? Yeah. That sounds like such a weird pre-wrack. I do think you can be an American band

with members that aren't exclusively American. As long as you're based in the U.S. The band is named after Mick Fleetwood, who is not American. They're not an American band. Why would they call Fleetwood Mick? Jeremy would hate that band. Look, for me, obviously, I have Pearl Jam very, very close to the very top. Metallica also has to be mentioned.

We're talking about a band here who is still at the peak of their powers over 40 years after they started. What does peak of their powers mean? They still tore the world and sell out stadium. Who did REM influence is the craziest question? to ask rhetorically or otherwise when I can tell you who they are. And then Mike Ryan's response is like, nah. I mean, who are they? I know who are Nirvana and Pearl Jam and Radiohead.

Who are they? Here's who Ori-M. The biggest fans we've seen. What are you talking about? REM influence Matchbox 20. They influence train. Now we're talking. They influence gin blossoms.

They influence every soft rock. One Republic loves R.E. Pearl Jam yielded creed. Are we supposed to hold that against them? Are you saying that as an. insult, brother, because you're off base. All right. I'm not an astronaut.

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Many promotions are available both in-store and online, though some may vary. Don Lebertard. I've never stepped foot on that campus. If you told me right now, your life depends on it. Go to Santa Fe University and just take a picture. Stugats. I would die. I don't know where it is.

This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. I'm talking to. You should be talking to a crowd that hasn't heard of Mariah Carey, apparently. I still haven't gone over there. One of the worst sakes is Ethan's two fighters. Oh my God. Dave Girls' third best band cannot be the biggest American band. Ethan tried to tell me last night that,

food fighters was way bigger than both Green Day and and red hot chili peppers. He's an insane person. I said, what are you talking? In terms of what? It's like, in terms of sales. I said, what's their biggest song? And he's like, oh, my lord or whatever. It's like, all right, let's look up the charts.

They were like fourth on the billboard hot rock chart or modern rock chart. I said, okay, let me pull up Green Day. I don't even know if their biggest song, Boulevard of Broken Dreams. You see these list of ones here? Every single chart imaginable. How do you even arrive at a point where you? you think fool fighters is a bigger act. I'm not saying like you might like them better.

It's all good. Preference is preference. That's right. We're not talking. I'm not trying. The goal here isn't to show your hipster bonafides. Right. It's about deep dive.

What's the biggest? Influe. Seems like that's what you're doing though. REM is not my favorite band. Oh, shut up. You lock. They're your favorite. They're your absolute favorite.

Where would the Freight be without REM? Oh, my God. I mean, come on. It's the greatest album of all time is OK. computer. I love radio head. Led Zeppelin is probably number one of all time, but R. AM's in my top four or five bands ever, yeah. I just imagine

Dave Damashek, sophomore in college in Indiana, with his like big-ass walkman, the disc man that you can't. What's a frequent? 1971. Yeah, it's a walkman. It's with the orange... Shock absorber. The orange foam on the, on the earbuds with the headphones. Yep. And then

it's the yellow walkman, the sport walkman. Oh, yeah. It'd get a little bit wet. Yeah, you get a little wet. You put your cassette and your aria, cassette and shiny, happy people, and just kind of walking down campus. Shame on you. Shame on you. So the worst song by a band that has a catalog that runs for days, I have to hold that against. They could not hold BC boys job.

I can find some bad Beatles songs, too. BC boys way better than Oreo. Absolutely. B.C. boys way better. Listen. Evolved their sound. I went to see both of them more than once. I've seen all these bands we're talking about.

out live, by the way. How old am I? You saw that Zeppelin? I saw smashing pumpkins open for Nirvana. I saw Rage Against the Machine many times. I've seen Tribe many times. Johnny Cash. Tribe called Quest. The best live band I've ever seen Fishbone. You ever catch Fishbone in their Prime? Oh, Jesus Christ. You've clearly never seen the Easter band. You've never heard of that. You've never heard of a fish band. What that is. I had to look up REM. I'll be honest with you. Now I'm beginning to realize Dave was probably the senior in my dorm when I was a freshman. Georgia Tech because I know exactly I'm not you How much way?

Rambling wrecked from Georgia Tech I'm not over. I thought I could get you back in the garage. Going back to Green Day, they have the most impactful rock album of this century. Yes. Like if you have the most impactful rock album of the

century in which you exist, you've got to be in the top five at the very least of American people. They do. It doesn't make them true. 100% of any band. Like American idiot. Based on what? Based on what? We're about to say the monkeys. Based off of America.

Sales, political influence, all of it. Navy Awards, recognition. It spawned a musical. I mean, I'm not the biggest Green Day guy. I like the band, but even I can acknowledge that Germany's making really good points here. I'm also surprised that Beach Boys haven't come up. Beach Boys are a great one. And that is a quintessential American sound.

I want Dave to go down the path that he stopped right there where he was about say something about the monkeys as a band. I was not going to say. Hey, hey, we're the monkeys, baby. How come if we're talking all-time great American bands, which is a conversation that goes back to yesterday. Ramones, by the way. You got to mention Aerosmith at some point.

Yes, you do. Arrow Smith was mentioned at some point yesterday. I mentioned it. Arrow Smith have had one of the more fascinating career trajectories ever because they were essentially a one-hit wonder. And they went away for about a decade. Run DMC, brought them back, a little bit of a lull. And then when they were all old guys, they just dominated radio and MTV.

Get a Grip then came out early 90s. Just single after single after single. Armageddon Soundtracks. For me on the Bar Mitzvah Circuit, early 90s, crying from Get a Grip. Oh, crying, crazy. And he had a grip. I even like pink. But the song shot.

Pink! No, a different pink, the song. Oh, a different thing. Aerosmith had a massive comeback. This is a very two America's conversation. Yes, it is. But for the record, Aerosmith, all. of that new life, second life that they got.

A Janie got a gun and all that crap. Danny's got a gun. No, I'm sorry. I don't want to veer into. You're about saying it's an incredible song? All that music sucked. All that, all that. Coming from a.m. guy.

Are you? You know, what? I thought you liked soft radio hits. I thought you liked adult contemporary radio hits. What I am now learning is over these last eight minutes, these tortured, these torturous eight minutes as that Mike Ryan has never actually heard much REM.

You've heard. You've heard. Monster? What's the frequency, Kenneth? I like that. Orange Crush. Yeah, shiny happy people's weird. Everybody hurts. I know all about R.E.M. Life's rich. I had a Batman soundtrack.

Go listen to listen to Life's Rich. What's Batman have to do with any of it? Like, look, Batman's Kissed by a rose. What are you confusing R.m with Seal? I mean, I mean, you talk about two Americas, this conversation in AeroSmith. You got to realize that one America helped out the other American.

Yes, that's right. Yes. They, Aerosmith owes everything to the other America. Can we narrow this down to four bands? I want to put this on Twitter. But also, Roy, like, can we come up with four? So people can vote on what is the best American band? Are we putting?

It's an interesting point, Roy, because they, because one hand washed the other in a way because it really did help. help hip-hop pop in general that, you know, it surfaced one of the more prominent bands. So one of the more. All right. Beach Boys, Metallica. Are we putting R-A-M? R-M? Hell-mo.

Actually, we should add their hurried. Add them to the list so Dave can see what he did. Add them to the list so Dave can see. So what would be the fourth. Put them in there. Those are three. As is always true, recency is going to win in a conversation. You guys don't even know what R-M music sounds like.

I'm going to vote. Is that four fine? Just for voting? Beach Boys, Metallica, Green Day, R-E-M. I mean, it's not fine to me, but it's okay for the greatest. How are you not? I mean, to not include the Grateful Dead is loco. We're not including Tom Petty.

I mean, is this list okay? That's a solo. I mean, it's a very, very white list, but I guess we're going to have to go. North Wind and fire? Extremely white less. We can do the, like, one America and then do a pull for the other America. We're forgetting about Eagles. We're forgetting about Eagles.

All right, Green Day's off. All right, Green Day gone. Swan American. I'm going to talk about recency bias. Temptations. Look them up. Don't tell me about the temptations, man. All right, while you figure out how we want to pose the question on Twitter,

and while Jeremy continues to skate on warning everybody at the beginning of the week, should not allow the Miami Heat. Just one more thing on REM. One more thing on R-E. No, one more thing here. If the best song that you ever made in losing my religion was covered better on, Glee than your original version, that means you're probably not the greatest American man.

Once again, tachet, mistaking, saying something out loud to it equalling the truth. He does that a lot, by the way. That's nothing to do with reality. That's their best song? According to whom? Somebody who hasn't heard any of their other songs? This guy never tells the truth. How about your favorite little hockey team last night?

Taking that ass in sunrise last night right from the get-go. Just three minutes into the game, your boy, your favorite panther, our favorite panther, everybody's favorite panther. Panther legend, Brad Marchand gets the scoring started last night. The Panthers go up three nothing, a couple of empty net goals later, a pair of goals from Marchand after hitting the post on a wide open empty net. Very embarrassing. A five-one victory for your Panthers. That's what I'm talking about. How about your boy, Evan Rodriguez, man.

Nine, nine shots on goals. Seven in the first. Boka Grande. What a game he had last night. His first shorty of his career. So the Panthers know they play again tonight, though. Sabers. He had a shorty before?

He never had a shorthy. Shorties are awesome, I don't know. Shorties everywhere, man. Come on. You got to get some shorties. Dave, you know about them shorties? Heard of it. Lions.

I'm trying to go tonight to the Panther game. I'll be there. You are? I'm trying to. Now, when I'm trying to, I don't know if you know this. When I'm trying to go to. to a game, that means I'm looking for the hookup. All right.

Like, if I was going to buy tickets or say I'm going to buy tickets, but I'm trying to go to the game tonight. Whenever I'm trying to go to something, it can be a game, it can be a concert. If I'm trying to go, that means I'm looking for the hookup. I thought Ethan had tickets. You're trying to go. You're going to the wrong game tonight.

There is one game to go to. The team with the nation's longest win streak is playing the team with the second longest win streak in the nation. Go on. The team that is scoring more runs than anybody in the is hosting its arch rival in baseball. Don't get it twisted. You may be able to argue FSU and other sports,

but when it comes to baseball, it is Florida undeniably. Florida, Miami, at the light. What are you doing? You shouldn't be anywhere else. I admitted this to you guys last week. Somehow it did not make it to air, and I will just, you know, it'll be a very shameful revelation right now,

and I told you guys last week, I have never been to the light. Got to get one of those milkshakes, man. I've never been to the light. To the why? You never put in the light? Mark Light Stadium is where the Hurricanes play baseball. It's Alex Rodriguez Field at Mark.

Great milkshakes, by the way. Which is why courts and fields don't matter. Mark Light Stadium is where the Miami Hurricanes Baseball play. It's a very famous stadium as far as South Florida goes. They very famously have, you know. Great milkshakes. Yeah, the milkshakes there are the way to go. And it's essentially a landmark down here.

Famously? Famously? I'm fascinated. Locally, it's famous. Locally it's famous. I'm surprised, but I guess that's probably part of the region's laws for a sports fan. But I'm surprised Zaz doesn't catch more flack. I root for two college football and college basketball teams, Indiana and Pitt, grew up in one, matriculated at the other.

Fascinated by Zaz, arch rivals. You go to Florida, but you root for the youth. I did not go to Santa Fe. I'm surprised you guys don't get on anymore. I was smart. I went to Universal. Smart. Not like dumb.

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