The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Etch It In Stone

Episode Date: August 29, 2023

It's time to talk O's and U's as the NFL regular season approaches, and Greg Cote and Stugotz are here to provide Dan all the cogent analysis he needs. Greg shares his personal rankings in the AFC East and how he's rehabbing his hamstring. Then, Stugotz is afraid to go to the dentist AND to talk about the Jets, and Greg wants the Dolphins to trade for Jonathan Taylor...for the right price. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunluba Tarshall with the Stugots Podcast. I'm in for a very long Tuesday. Stugots has come in smelling like cigarettes. Thank you. And yesterday, because I'm pretty sure everything on his face and everywhere else is the same thing he had on yesterday which he slept in.

I don't know for sure. No. But he smells like yesterday. I was wearing jeans yesterday, Dan. And he comes in and he says to me and Greg Cody, I got the Giants over seven and a half wins. And I'm liking Arizona over four and a half wins on the season. O's in use.

It's that time of year. I put my O's in use in for the season yesterday. Greg Cody has talked me. He's convinced me. I took the dolphins. I took the dolphins. I took the giants. Greg Cody is convincing me that Arizona is a good play. At four and a half because it's such a ridiculous and anomaly. The lowest in the league is normally

six and a half. And for any team to be four and a half, no matter how bad you think they are, that's a jump on a number. I read an article that suggested the Arizona Cardinals are gonna be an underdog for every game this NFL season. They're tanking for Caleb Williams. Yeah. Because they caught Colt McCoy. McCoy, this is what he does. He goes out and win G8 games.

And you don't wanna win eight games when you're trying to get Caleb Williams. I gotta be honest, I've reached a new level of not understanding tanking when I thought the previous definition is if you're tanking you're playing Colt McCoy not you know that you're really wounded now because you're letting Colt McCoy go you play Josh Dobbs That's the quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals. Kyler Murray is not healthy If you want to tank for Caleb Williams, you don't do it with Colt McCoy, Dan, he still cares. And he cares enough to rally that team to seven eight victories, you know. I don't care about your opinion about overunders. Oh, I do. And yeah, Greg Cody, I didn't ask.

I was setting up the show trying to explain why my Tuesday is going to be long because while you were doing this, Greg Cody, who had no interesting listening to you, simply wanted to give you his opinions on things. And he said that his personal rankings have come out. He's officially done all of the teams in the league and he's got the dolphins number four, higher than they've ever been.

And he says notably, higher than they've ever been and he says notably Wow higher than the bills as well so noted Homer Greg Cody who said with uh... stugots last year that the dolphins would win the Super Bowl yep is now going the same direction again this year there were injuries last year they've gotten better yeah they've gotten better. Yeah. And if Jalen Ramsey weren't missing half the season, I would be even more excited. But even with that injury, I mean, I could I could talk for the whole show about why they're a better team and why they're better than Buffalo. A couple of reasons are two is going to

stay healthy all year. He's going to play all 17 games. Okay. Very good. Not going to miss a single game. Okay. Vic Fangio is the God, the lowercase G there, no offense to anybody. He's the God of defensive coordinators, and they're ready to do it, man. Mike McDaniel's digging in to his second season. He's familiar now, he's more comfortable. They're ready.

They're ready. Dolphins haven't been to a Super Bowl in almost 40 years since Dammarino's 1984, and they're ready, They're gonna do it This is the end and you know it by the way I have to say that because what I'm saying what I'm saying is more than just my opinion you can etch it in stone Bring it to a tablet put it on your back like your Moses walking to a bank and deposit that tablet Cuz I'm I'm talking the truth here of spitting it

Damn right just coffee and you know it and you know it because I'm talking the truth here, spitting it. Yeah, I'm right. It's coffee. And you know it. And you know it. And you know it. Two lattes. I've shown Peyton's excuse for why it is a game. You said it.

You've had too many lattes this morning, but that's not even. Those two elements are not. He should etch it in stone though. Greg should. I feel like. I just walk around with a stone all season Yeah, can you buy a stone tablet? I got to go on Amazon Amazon stone tablet. Oh Google that I'm on it Yeah, please I would love a stone this is Greg Cody's new thing

I've seen him do it to Chris who he's turned into an administrative assistant He won't even do his own googling. He's just he all he's doing right now is delegating to everyone today Before we started today he went to his son when we asked him if there was anything that he was really interested in talking about and Asked his son. Hey Chris. What do I think? Right? I'm an idea man You know, I rely on others to Research my ideas and flesh him out 39 39.95 for Stone Tablet, 10 Commandments Us. That's not an idea man. Done. I just spent 40 bucks for a two foot length of foam.

I'm easily going to spend that for a Stone Tablet. He has a herd hamstring, that's why. I'm rehabbing a hamstring. Well he joined a bowling league, he heard his hamstrings. So I'm trying to get him, I'm like, that, what are you doing to get your hamstring. Well, we joined a bowling league. He heard his hamstrings. So I'm trying to get him. I'm like, Dad, what are you doing to get your hamstring back up? He's like, nothing. What do you mean?

I'm just letting it heal. I'm like, Dad, do some research, like, do some work on it. And he went out and bought this foam thing. And apparently he overpaid for it. Well, it's 40 bucks for a piece of foam. But I'm supine on the grind. I should have brought it with me. A foam roller, yes.

I told you to bring it with me. They're very, very good. And by the way, it's the shade of this beautiful Blue carpet important detail Maybe it's there it's just bleeding. Yeah, I know it's good. Okay Billy hey go sit in the penalty box What's what do you do? What if you triven fall? Wow? It's there.

The same color as the carpet. Maybe it's there because it's the color of the carpet. I want you to be careful. You, uh, that's the most efficient. You've said barely anything so far in the show today and you get sent to the Poundy Box on a terrible joke. It ain't here. Whoa! I think you're valiant. Oh, sir, lawsuit. It's tough to see, I know.

You was there. I don't know why you would come through here on your way to the penalty box. Slaps the comedy. Physical comedy, we don't do nearly enough of it around here. Oh, Lord. It was a great trip, I built a Big fan's eye over here. Yeah. It's the Dick Van Dyke.

We need to bring it back, right? Physical comedy hasn't been really done since Dick Van Dyke. Right, John Ritter. I mean, come on. Wait a minute, Chris, you laugh at this. Don't laugh or somehow. I know chronologically you're right, but it sounds like an even older reference in Dick Van Dyke. The funny thing about the reference to Dick Van Dyke,

who's still with us incidentally, in his 90s. He couldn't pull that fall off it. I mean, Jim Kerry did happen in the 90s. True. No, Van Dyke's the right reference. The lane is open. The lane is, the rain, it remains open for anyone in the last 25 years who wants to be the best

this quarter century at physical comment. You don't see an ottoman anymore. There's nothing to trip over. The thing that I was going to mention is that the last the last week put it on the pole at Labatars show. Do you see Ottomans anymore? Is there anything to trip over? You guys are going to be shocked what I'm about to tell you that is the God's honest truth, that for the last week, at least in part, because my wife has suggested strongly that I sort of have to sit in the hurt of what it is that I'm feeling that's not going anywhere for a while after the passing of my brother, my younger brother. I was in North Carolina for a week in the woods in one of those JJ Watt cabins, and I'm

not joking when I say to you. I didn't have very much access to anything, but what I did have access to, and what was the show and the thing that I was watching most when I was there is the Dickman Dyke show from the 1960s on its own channel 24 hours a day. What's yes, and I was just sort of hypnotized by the black and white Going back in time and watching one of the original television shows that does indeed begin with him trying to come into his own home and falling over an Ottoman. You're the new word is.

You would think so. He lives there and it's right there. We can all see. We can all see. Mary Tyler Moore moved it or something. Yeah, Laura moved it. That's Phil Dumpy of Modern Family homage. He always tripped on the same part of the stairs. Greg, the thing that I wanted to get to, however, that has nothing to do with overunders

or your rankings of the Miami Dolphins. Which will be online soon. At the Miami Herald. Nice. Is that my client, who really doesn't want to be dealing with our various nonsense, you know, I'll look in the slack and one of the poor women will be there writing, hey guys, feel free to double flush the toilet because you guys are a bunch of hyenas

and we don't know how to actually live as human beings. Greg Cody was told by Mike Ryan, hey Greg, can you get here a little earlier because when you're in makeup, you're missing the meeting. And Greg Cody has since been complaining, hey is the show later? because when you're in makeup, you're missing the meeting. And Greg Cody has since been complaining, hey, is the show later?

We starting late today and complains every week that he has to be here for any meeting. And I asked him before the show, I'm just, and I said to him, Greg, just out of curiosity, do you think that you've mastered Tuesday so much that you need these meetings less than I do because I have to sit in those meetings and I have to listen as well and his response was the following.

My response is yes of course you have to sit in the meetings more than I do because you are the engineer, your hands are on the train's steering wheel. Yeah. If you're not in that full meeting, absorbing, contributing, the train runs off the tracks, it's in a ditch, whereas I am a passenger on the train. I'm in the 38th row, I'm minding my own business, I'm dozing a little bit, the train's rocking, I'm having a beautiful nap on a rocking train, and then every once in a while, somebody from the show elbows me, I wake up, I say a clever line, a funny rejoinder. That kind of thing.

That kind of thing. And then I go back to sleep and then you take over the show again. And that's what, so yes, and here's the other thing. He's the conductor, Greg. He's the conductor. Yes. And here's the other thing. I spend 20 minutes in the morning writing an entire list

of show topics, which is 10 amount to me being in the pre-game meeting. Which is lazy, by the way. It's just dolphins. This is me. Cains, my podcast. No, no back in my day. The meaning just isn't for you.

We got through them all. I mean, it's a no where we're going with videos. You're not surprised, right? The guests are, what other people might be interested in so you can Formulate your own takes on other people's stuff. Okay, first of all nobody needs the makeup room more than I do Okay, when I'm in that my when she's giving me makeup and involve scaffolding a settling torches It's crazy. Everything. She's got to do to me. Okay, so I come out in time. I look at the big board I see all the things the show show topics, I absorb them,

I know everything we're talking about, Bing Bang. What are we talking about today? Yeah, there's too many things to... Yeah, there's that, there's that. No, I think Greg's point is whatever Dan wants to talk about we'll just react around it. Thank you.

He's a pastor here in the 30th row. You all are. Thank you, Billy. Welcome back, Billy, by the way. So, I'm ready. I'm ready. I got a stone tablet getting ready to etch it What are what are all of your thoughts on the dolphins? Possibly getting Jonathan Taylor. Okay. First of all, um, you know, go get him. Thank you Don't live a tart who I'm thinking of is Lauren Green.

We all remember Lauren Green. Who could forget? Bonanza. Lauren Dorn. Am I right? There's a cookie named Lorna Dune or something like that. It's my favorite cookie. It's number one of my top five cookie lists.

Yes. You and nobody else. But Lauren Green played the head cowboy in Bonanza. Thank you. You're so. Oh, thank you. Yeah. Yeah. The stumbling on his word. The precise manner of it was as old as you've ever sounded. It's still gots. Also, why did you say thank you at the end of that? Well, because I'm enlightening people. People out there nodding Boba has gone. Yeah, yeah, Lauren green, Benanza, I remember that you're welcome. Well, I mean, Benanza and gun smoke were like big rivals on TV was must see TV. We'd watch them at 1440 on a black and white magnovox every week.

Yeah, my there time, not mine. My grandma used to watch those shows every day, right? Damn right. She would have been 90 this year. Hello. Good for her. You had good taste in TV. Low and green. This is the Don Limita show with this two gods.

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on a Dr. King Spurzburg app to check it out. Greg Cody of The Miami Herald, I believe to be locally. I don't know if someone can top him, someone who has been covering the dolphins longer than anyone in the history of this market. 40 plus years. And so when he brings you the expertise of you, ask him for all his nuanced thoughts on the dolphins,

you get the kind of reporting and eloquence that you've come to expect from both Greg Cody Tuesdays and the Miami Herald. Yeah, that is it. That was Greg Cody giving you all of his thoughts on Jonathan Taylor to the Miami Dolphin. Yeah, it is. I got it. I'm clearing my throat. Does that sound like Adam Sandler? Yeah, it is. It sounds like the swamp. The shwam. Yeah, it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Cody and Stugat talking moments ago, Stugat's evidently has some fear about a dental procedure that he has to have today.

And so Greg Cody, yes Roy, another dental procedure. I know you guys, yes, yes. Today? Yeah. So you definitely have to cancel the interview that we have. You can't interview anyone. It's debatable, I'm canceling it right now.

It's debatable, I might cancel. I might cancel the dentist or the parodontist. Because I was asking Greg, when you get a tooth extracted, would you rather, now Billy, we discussed this yesterday, I'm sorry to do this to you, it will air later this week, but we discussed this yesterday with an NFL Hall of Famer,

who told me that you need to be put to sleep when you get a tooth extracted, okay? Greg is saying going with local anesthesia. I do not wanna do that, and I'm afraid of that, and this doctor only does that. I would rather you just put me to sleep I wake up the tooth is out. That's all I'm saying.

I was unaware that a dentist would give you general anesthesia. I thought it was all localized, depending on where they're doing the work in the month. This is a parodontist. But I don't wanna get caught in the details just now about your fear. Although Greg Cody did ask the question, and I want to put it on the poll at Levitage show, have you ever fallen asleep in a dentist chair? Because neither Greg nor I could imagine falling asleep in a dentist chair, but Stugats is

very scared of everything that's happening today. And as he just mentioned, would like to just wake up and not experience anything. But that to me is less interesting than the holy hell that you have now immersed Billy and as he with a second baby heads into another football season, trying to corral you every week without knowing whether you are doing an interview while you have a mouth that's stated. No, I didn't know that that's why we may have to cancel.

I definitely have to cancel. Even if you have this procedure done, you're not going to be in any condition to be interviewing anyone. Yeah, but I might cancel the procedures, what I'm trying to tell you. I'm going to reschedule the interview. Okay. If you cancel the procedure, cancel it. All right.

I'm going to reschedule the interview. Okay. If you cancel the procedure, cancel it. I'm going to reschedule. But you also told me. You also told us you were leaving early because you had to go to the meeting that you weren't canceling. If I cancel, if I cancel the appointment, I will not be leaving early. What are these decisions going to be made? I made the last minute and I wake up, I see how I feel.

Yesterday I felt fine about local anesthesia. Today I don't. I mean, sorry. You made you, you made you. Yephesia today I don't I mean you you you you you blame Joe Thomas I mean he's the guy who told me you just gave up the secret Hall of Fame guest that Billy was trying to I don't care he doesn't care anymore that's a good guy he's beating the carer I mean that's good good yeah oh glad I did the season is just about to start the corralling of stugots is just about to start are you headed for of stugots is just about to start.

Are you headed for a holy hell where you have three kids now, Billy, and two of them behave. Yes. The third is an adult who can't be trusted to do anything that you need him to do efficiently or honestly. Or do. Or do. Yes.

It's challenging. I'm already in mid-season energy level before the season started, which isn't great. I'm amped up. Yeah, that doesn't help me. Incidated. What are you amped up about? Jets, I don't want to talk about them. He's excited about the Jets, yeah.

I'm trying, it's kind of like, I don't know which is worse. The stew gots that's too amped up or the stew gots is like, eh, maybe I have a dense sewing. Well, the, the, the jets, you would think at some point he would learn, but he has now gotten to hope again, and there's good reason. They have a quarterback.

I'm, I'm legitimately curious as we head into this season, though, who's got the greater expectations? As two franchises that have been really below average for a long time? When Greg Cody is saying, I've got the dolphins ranked fourth in my power rankings, which incidentally he apologized and was in a great deal of stress during the break because those aren't coming out today, you will have to wait until tomorrow to get the Greg Cody NFL power rankings. But as he puts...

You'll have to wait till Friday for Joe Thomas. Maybe if you don't cancel your procedure which you're leaving early for that you might cancel. Keep it posted. Greg Cody says that he's got the Miami Dolphins ranked fourth in the league, and yesterday Stu got to say Jets 15 and two. Oh wow. Can I get the under on that? Is that, uh, they have a tough schedule. Regardless who has the greater expectations this season between those two teams, those are

bottom-feeding teams for 20 years because Tom Brady exists and gets to the hall of fame on the backs of the incontinences of these franchises. I think it's obvious the Jets have the greater expectations because they're on hard knocks. They have Aaron Rogers. The team was good last year. They had seven wins last year with Zach Wilson as their quarterback and now they have Aaron Rogers. So I think the expectations are clearly on the jet. Oh, here he is.

Yeah. Oh, I don't know what you found in North Carolina, but it might have been your balls. Who's gonna have a better season? The Jets are the dolphins. Where have you burned all my life? That's not all I said. It wasn't even who's gonna have the better season to expect.

Oh, no! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! I used to say. Oh, yeah! Are you running?

Are you two are gonna stay healthy for all seven two nine? Are you rubbing your nipples with your talons? Oh, yeah. It's game week. Oh, 15 and two, huh? 15 and two, huh? Oh, 15 and two. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm so happy. I can say it. I'm so happy to see you for a number of different reasons. But one of them is, I don't know if anyone else experienced this yesterday when I saw the clips, the magical clips of undisputed that had me laughing hysterically, but that sound felt to me that after 20 years of ripping selfish loudmouth athletes, as Skip Bayless tried to

do that show with three generations of the loudest football guy that existed during his generation, that he was opening the gates to the hell he had created, and then surprised when all the demons came back and ate his face. He tried to unleash all three of them at the same time because he's constructed this unholy hell of sports debate, and the end of his career is going to be being devoured by guys who demand the ball and just steal the show from him Just take it from him because he's not as big a personality as any of them are That's what I did all day long yesterday

It interrupted the Jay-Marionny podcast which I put down for just a brief second I have to watch that roundtable of nobody allowing Skip me a list to speak And I gotta tell you, you played yourself there. Michael Irvin and Richard Sherman. I mean, come on. So good. Come on, let me go.

Keeshon Johnson. Keeshon Johnson is going to get eliminated very quickly because he's not as good as those guys. Skit bailiffs is complaining about not getting the ball. When Keeshon Johnson wrote a book called, give me the damn ball. Throw me the damn ball. Kishon, what a deal.

What a deal. What a deal for Kishon. Ten months ago, ESPN gave him five years, 18 million dollars and then let's him go and allows him to work because they're like, ah, we'll just trade Kishon and Michael Ervin, first Shannon Sharpen. them to work because they're like, ah, we'll just trade Kishon and Michael Irvin first Chan and Sharp and Mulalva. We'll do this funny game of just seeing who can talk over each other. I'm sorry, Dan, but I just can't get over the fact that two minutes ago, Stu Gotz said the Jets would go 15 and two and not 30 seconds later tried to gaslight all of us into saying, no, I didn't say 15 to two. It was 30 seconds earlier on the air out loud.

That was then, this is now off of a crying out loud. Ha, ha, ha, ha. This is where he will end up all season fluctuating back and forth between these teams. But Greg Cody of the Miami Herald did have more eloquent thoughts than the ones that he shared with us to kick off the show today on Jonathan Taylor. I am at least a little bit confused by the dolphins

going that kind of all in, although reports are that they're not going to give a first round pick, but the running back is really disposable right now. And you, I think, wrote that they shouldn't go after Dalvin Cook, who is older, but you're saying, yes, on Jonathan Taylor, and you don't like any of the discount bin parts that they have right now in the backfield?

I like Raheem Mostert. I think he's one of the underrated backs in the league. Career average, five yards of carry, very fast, apex speed for that position. It gets hurt a lot. Yeah, okay, and that's why they have a pretty deep running back room. But in this case, Jonathan Taylor is a top tier back at the right age.

And if they can get him for a second round pick at the right price, I think it's in keeping with what they're doing right now, which is going all in. In the last year, we've seen them spend a hell of a lot of money for Tyree Kill. We've seen them arguably overspend for Bradley Chubb. We've seen them acquire Jalen Ramsey. This is an all-in team right now which have seldom been in their recent history. The dolphins right now think they can win

the Super Bowl in the next year or two. And Jonathan Taylor would be dovetail perfectly with what their philosophy has become. Where are people a couple of weeks ago super excited about the Chris Johnson speed and feeling of a chain? Were they doing that? Yeah. Good fit for a zone blocking scheme in terms of being able to bounce it to the outside that people that have had the most success in this running scheme of the shane-han tree.

It's always guys that can get out quick. I do think my opinion of the dolphins doesn't change if they don't make this deal. I think they're going to be very good even without Jonathan Taylor, but he would be the exclamation point on what they're doing. And again, it's all the right price. Like I would not spend a first round pick for him. Well, they don't have to because no one else is offering that apparent. Right. So if it's a buyer's market and you get a twenty five year old back at a position where three years from now

you'll be thinking because look how fast their their canaries gone down hill a little bit although he's still pretty good and i'm i'm as he gone downhill i don't think he's gone downhill that fast no but i don't think he's the back he was two years ago. I still think he's very good. He had 2000 yards two years ago. Nobody is the back. They were two years ago. The point is at this position only, from all rather than my beautiful Don Lebertard Hey everybody Not here

Okay, come to the phone Leave him alone See, it doesn't sound better Hey everybody No, it does not It does not sound better It sounds He is absolutely slurring Is hey everybody

By the way, not surprising at all That he would answer the phone and think just everybody is That's only one person calling it's everybody still got's performance 19 Miller lights deep He was 19 Miller-Lights Deep when he were 4 years old. It's everyone calling him at the same time. He's doing a little show. A little show. Everything is good content. It's like he's a train-grag coating.

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Arc did a docuseries that took a lot of time and money and is climbing up the rankings because it's a lot of super cool stories that we haven't talked about around here in sports. But during the break, Stugat was asking Greg Cody about his shirt. And we learned together that this is a shirt that has been in Greg Cody's closet for three years. And this is the second time that that shirt has been worn. Now, how would you explain what that shirt is? I would say it's like the Bellagio Vomited on a tablecloth is what I would say that shirt is. That's exactly what I was thinking.

He read your mind. The collar, if you're wearing it for only the second time, why is that collar standing up? The right collar is a little bit stiff. Yeah, my wife told me about that before I left. She said she thought I was trying to look cool by having my collar up. I don't know why it's doing that. I don't.

I'm going to have to ask my tailor about that. It's a nice looking shirt though, Greg. Thank you. But you've given up on trying to look cool, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To God, our cool older analyst here who represents the person who has covered the dolphins

the longest and has a great deal of expertise, can you tell me please what Derek Henry did last season as he's clearly downhill and what he means I suppose is that he's still running downhill because he's getting acreage of yardage. I didn't mean he was over the hill. What I meant was, and I tend to put things through when it comes to that position. I tend to put things through a fantasy football prism, where a couple of years ago, he might have been your overall number one draft pick. Now, I think his ADP is probably Christopher. What is his ADP? He's getting drafted in

the second round. It's funny though, you have him on your team and kept him in fantasy. I did. He was a keeper in my fantasy league. You're right, I still think he's a great back. I don't think he's as great as he was to be a good guy. You just said a segment ago how quickly Derek Henry has gone downhill. Just to answer your question, Dan, just under 1600 yards last year.

Right, but it took him a lot of cares to get there. But to make my point, I use that as an example because that's the difference between Dalvin Cook and Jonathan Taylor. That's the difference between those two. Is that Dalvin Cook is getting older for that position. Jonathan Taylor is still in his absolute prime for that position. Nobody is paying running backs of any kind. Correct.

And so the dolphins would be the only, you're doing one of the best. Like he was leading Russian, the leading MVP candidate. Hell, I could have made the argument that that Jonathan Taylor team led by Jonathan Taylor at one point toward the end of that season. If they had not lost the last game, I thought that team could have done exactly what the Bengals did in the playoffs, because even with shitty quarterback play because of how good he was. It should be noted, and I also subscribe to to don't pay the running back but and their cautionary

tales like a zikio elia but the running back said have gotten their money recently nick jub derrick henry christian macafry austin ecler now these are running back said are still producing at a very high level this is a running back that is worth paying i'm with great like i think if there's a running back to pay would be this guy He's only three years into his career. The age is fine. He's 26 years old and two years ago then that year he had 1800 yards and 18 touchdowns.

You I'm not going to disagree with what it is that you guys are saying. I'm simply going to point out to you that three years ago or two years ago, I don't remember when it was before I saw what would be a revolutionary change at that position, I argued on the wrong side with mean of kinds, lose every argument on you got to pay Dalvin Cook years ago. You got to pay Ezekiel Elliott. You got to pay Ezekiel Elliott. You got to pay Melvin Gordon because I was using faulty math. And as this machine that gets more and more efficient shows, we're gonna get to the point that none of these guys

are gonna be paid. Like that's the, you're pointing out the three or four that are getting paid, but there will be some breaking point on this. If they keep shaving the margins on this position, the way that they're doing where all the running backs want to strike, then they have, wasn't there a report of a meeting? They had a Zoom meeting where they were talking about like faking injuries. Because what is happening with the economy of that

position? Eventually, you're all going to be as wrong as I've been the last three years because I was paying girly. I said you had to pay girly. I got every one of them wrong because I thought those were difference making backs and now Ezekiel Elliott is signing some tiny deal. Nobody actually wants him with the Patriot. I have the top 10 highest paid running backs

for this season against the salary cap. Number 10 is a new running back in a new place, Miles Sanders, who is very productive for Philadelphia. James Conner, sneaky productive. Six is the tie between Tony Pollard, Josh Jacobs, and Sequan Barkley. Aaron Jones is fifth, he's still doing his thing. Nick Chubb's still performing at a high level.

Derek Henry's still at a high level. Alvin Kamar is probably the one that you can pick at and say they're gonna regret that, especially this year serving a four game suspension. Number one's Christian McCaffrey. What I'm saying is the top top ten or guys it's still produce but the Giants already told you with say quan barley and bark Lee where it is they are on that line by risking angering him because they wouldn't give him the kind of deal that you want it and you're not going to convince me that Jonathan Taylor's a lot better than

say quan bark Lee apart potentially worth considering with Jonathan Taylor that's different than some of these other backs is he was run into the ground all three years in college. So I just looked up the difference. Jonathan Taylor ran the ball 926 times in college. That's 300 more carries than Derek Henry had in college. And we thought it was going to be a wild ride. Which is wild because the book on Derek Henry was, he's probably not going to get drafted as high because of all the tread on his tires entering the league.

I think the top tier of running backs, Chubb, McCaffrey, Taylor. Those guys are still gonna get paid. I think the difference is, it's gonna be two and three year contracts. You're not gonna see any running back signed to a five year deal anymore. It's just not gonna happen.

That's why if the dolphins can get Jonathan, Taylor on a smart two year deal for a second-run pick, that's what they want to do because that fits there right now. That's not going to happen. That's not going to happen. It can if there's no market for. He wants to get traded so he can get his new deal. No, it's not going to be a two-year deal. It's been, well, you trade your assets for him and you get him on your existing deal and you hope that it's such a toxic relationship between he and Ursa that he'll just accept the move to spite Jim Ursa without a contingent on an extension. But I mean, if you apply just common logic, you'd think that he'd be going to a place

that is already kind of agreed in principle to give him an extension. Are you okay with the dolphins? You realize you bring in a guy like Jonathan Taylor and you give him his money. You're not bringing back either a waddle. Maybe you have to get rid of Tyreeks deal like they there's there's a cap here You can't just spend all this money. I do think Tyreeks is a guy. Tyreeks got a I don't think Tyreeks ending his career here But that's the question you have to say it's not just about of course who wouldn't want Jonathan Taylor It's okay if we bring in Jonathan Taylor a position that you don't really need to spend on. Now we don't we can't resign Wilkins. We can't resign model. Yeah, I think I think looking at the Ross or Tyreeks probably the guy that's not going to get to that next

contract that you separate yourself from and and hope that Jaylen Waddle can fill that rule as he was admirably even before Tyree kill God here. It's really amazing. We're talking about one of the best players in the NFL. And I understand what you're saying, Chris, but we've arrived at a point where that player is not worth paying for because you can get them in the discount bin. I can't believe it.

Oh, no, but I'm running back with the stars of the league at one point. What I would say though on this, because I do think the economics of this are super interesting. The key I think in that sport, and what the dolphins are doing that's dangerous is the key in that sport is not merely to have great players. It's to have great players at value.

It's to have waddle. It's to have toa. It's to have guys that you're not paying a ton because everyone's competing within a salary cap. It makes everything very even. And so the place that you get your biggest advantages is we have great player, but we also have him cheap. And the dolphins have gonna have a lot of expensive players

and players from other places, not players that you groomed, players that proved and gave those value years to someone else. Hell, Taylor gave him to Wisconsin. Like, gave those, gave the prime of his career and his youth and his body, gave the value years to somebody else. So you're buying high on all these guys.

But they're not getting him for a four year plan. They're getting him to win this year or next year. That's why they'll throw the money at him because they know this is all gonna fall hard to every year. But he's not gonna make this incredible mess that he's making to sign some sort of short-term deal where he can get hurt Because he wants a one-year deal. He's going to leverage that. Oh, what is the height of his value to get the contract They want yeah, maybe they'll have a bad contract with him and they'll probably lose players

But they're doing it to capitalize on the players that they have now for the next two years, let's say, and then they know we're gonna get stuck with John and then Taylor or maybe not because it's football and you can always get out of this contract somehow and you're gonna lose a lot of your players, but they're trying to capitalize on this window right now and win now. It's capitalizing on the peak, right? It's trying to make the peak that this roster will have the highest it can possibly be and It's trying to make the peak that this roster will have the highest it can possibly be an understanding that on the back end you may very well struggle. But if you're looking at a contract difference, it's the Rams. Right.

But if you're looking at a difference between paying a player like Jonathan Taylor or say Josh Jacobs, Jonathan Taylor had 700 more carries in college. Reportedly, two teams are interested in Jonathan Taylor. There's always a mystery team. Okay, but but report it on the poll, juju, juju. There's always a mystery team. And that's that. But we're putting on the poll, Juju, is there always a mystery team? But what the reports are they've, the Colts have received two serious offers.

And then up to six teams have inquired about Jonathan Taylor. Right. And the dolphins are in a position of power because I don't feel like they desperately need him. I think if they can get him at their price, fine. Go ahead and sign him. And for me, their price should be a one or two year contract.

A lot of money, but for one or two years. If they can't do that, where he most are, is a perfectly fine running back, particularly in that offense, where you're going to throw 250 passes to Tyree Kill and Jalen Waddle alone. But Greg, you're not getting him for one or two years. He's only going to sign here if he feels like he gets the deal. You're like saying it's such an unlikely scenario. Yes, they should of course sign them to the best deal for the team. That's right. That's never going to happen because they're in a position of power to do that. Chris Cody, your your father has been writing that column in this market

for 40 goddamn years. Get Patrick Mahomes for a dollar, but he's I I endorse right back a quarterback in a six-round pick for Patrick Mahomes Hey, you guys aren't listening to what he's saying. He's saying that's the only reason they should get him It's not they don't need him so if they can't get that then they pass on him exactly not that they need him at that place Billy is right. I'm listening to every word perfect show no notes Billy's right. I mean, I'm not just saying what you're I'm explaining what you said So you're just saying you're right. Right you're acting like you wouldn't watch Jonathan Taylor if the dolphins I need to a four-year deal you would it depends on you think he's good or not okay

Not if it means you can't re-sign Christian Wilkins and Javan Holland. I mean I'm thinking of the entirety here. Let's do all of it. Let's bring in Jonathan Taylor, re-sign all the guys. So you don't want it? Are you doing all the holes for a sentence? If you can do the other thing, it's not you pass on it. That's exactly what I'm saying.

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