The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Football Energy

Episode Date: August 29, 2024

Today's cast: Amin, Mike, Chris, Jeremy, Jessica, Roy, and Tony. You can feel the football energy in the room with a huge slate of college football games tonight. Mike and Amin discuss the University of Miami's expectations heading into their weekend matchup with the Gators in Gainesville, Jess dissects Lucy being the only woman UM hater in the company, and Jeremy finds a way to make it all about UCF. Then, remembering the days of the pager and AIM, Mike's NFL futures bet, and the reason why this weekend has a tough slate of games to bet on. Plus, what's the deal with Fanatics and Marvin Harrison Jr.? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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before 830, buddy. You can't sizzle my spring rolls. Three? Yeah. Oh, we're on live. Hey, guys, what's going on? Football energy. Football energy. Oh, you're back.

I got a good round of football in the shipping container. Football. Yay. I said I want a little bit more football energy in the shipping container. I walked in and they're reacting to game tape and then I realized it was some college football game that Taylor and Mike played last week or something.

There is something going on because I typically don't care about people's video game exploits And I've been obsessed obsessed with you guys's college football league on Which one several there's several the one the one that gave us the game of the century last week that one Yeah, I got a I got a huge game coming up. Oh, I got to hit that guy back I got a Notre Dame versus us important you hit him back so you can play so yes, I'm going I'm going to Gainesville over the weekend. Oh, yeah, what's going on there?

The biggest the game of the century For for everything over there. Yeah blueprint game already it's kind of it's kind of weird cuz I'm in like a bunch of these and there's one that means more to me and like it's kind of a because I'm in a bunch of these, and there's one that means more to me. And it's kind of a curious experience for me because everyone that is in that league treats it like it's a main thing. And for me, it's just a side piece. I don't really care.

I'm just messing around trying new stuff with it. I'm going to look in the mirror here. This is my fault. We had great football energy, and I brought us back to video games. You did. You did. And I want to apologize to everyone for that. And that's on me. Let's go back to Gainesville, though. Or did. And I want to apologize to everyone for that. And that's on me.

Let's go back to Gainesville, though. Or let's go to Gainesville, because that's where you're going on Saturday. I'm going tomorrow, driving up. Can I ask you a serious question? It's a long drive. I'm not trying to be funny here. Aren't expectations slowly killing you, Michael?

I'm not talking about this game. I'm talking about in life. Generally. Yeah, and I think, I don't know if people have noticed it. I've certainly noticed it in myself. My approach to these things is way different. It's almost like the more I get invested, the more rational and pragmatic about these things I try to get.

My expectations are, I'm nervous. This is a huge game for me personally, for my finances, for this program, for the things that I care about deeply, and I don't buy all the nonsense that, I understand why Miami's favored, but I don't buy all the nonsense that they're gonna blow them out. I think it's gonna be a tough one, I really do,

and I'm nervous about it, and I do try to manage my expectations because over the last 20 years, say for a couple of outliers, this Miami program has never missed an opportunity to miss all the opportunities. So that is so true, Mike, but I will give you a little teaser for what's coming up later today on our first episode

of Gen CFB of the college football season with Lucy. I picked Miami to win. Really? I did. I'm buying the hype. Spoiler. I think Pam Ward's pretty good. I wanna talk to you. I did. I'm buying the hype. I think Timewar's pretty good. I want to talk to you a little bit about, because I sample everything that Metalark has to offer now

once I found out that everyone's talking about me. And Lucy, I haven't come down on her on this stuff. No one did a you down in the episode. I'm just going to say that flatly right now. That's all Taylor's doing. Lucy thinks she can get away. Lucy is like a bonaafide Miami hater. She hates Miami up and down,

hasn't actually ever said a positive thing about Miami. I know what God bless football does. Only Lucy does that. No, God bless football. No, he's going through the whole gamut. God bless football, every time Miami loses, they have the opposing head coach who's victorious. And to do a- Coincidence.

Yeah, to just wave his hands as a parade procession walks by. Like, I understand what GBF is aspiring to, but I don't know how one of the founding principles of this podcast is just troll Mike. It seems a little flimsy. I don't know either. Lucy's the only woman at this entire network

that hates Miami, so that's all on her. What I'm saying is, Jess, I find like. F*** you! I hate that clip. So, we kind of have, I like to think, correct me if I'm wrong, when it comes to our programs, I think we both understand where we're coming from and that we're totally in the tank,

and it's almost like we've just totally forgone hating each other on this premise alone. Like, I know you're an Irish fan, I'm a Cain's fan, there's nothing that anyone can do to convince the other person, so I like to think that there's some mutual respect there. You know what, there's respect in knowing that there's nothing you can say

and there's nothing I can say that will change the other person, so we don't even try. We don't even try. We don't even try, it's not fake at all. That's why I respect that. A nod and a glance and then you keep it moving. Exactly. That's why I F with you on a very deep and profound level,

Jess. Really? Yeah, but I'm kind of encouraged to hear that you have good things to say about Miami, but this is all rat poison. We need some reverse rat poison because my nerves have been. Maybe that's my plan all along.

I kind of feel like that's what's going on over here. That it's a big switcheroo that's coming down the pike? Yeah, and I kind of touched on this in the show earlier this week, but I'm like, the pro-Paul Feinbaum aspect, which I think is just utter BS, like, Paul Feinbaum literally said, it is now time for Miami to come back

to the national conversation. Oh, thank you, gatekeeper. I appreciate it. Now we're cool. You have permission now. Now we're cool. And don't think for a second I'm not onto you, which is you hate FSU.

You want us back so you can hate FSU more. If I may, we do share a mutual, sort of like the enemy of my enemy is my friend situation because the whole time you've been talking, Jeremy is now telling me all the scenarios for this weekend that help out UCF. And I think we can all confidently just say, Jeremy, shut up.

What do you mean? I'm just wearing my 2017 national champion shirt on the show today because we debut against New Hampshire. If Florida beats Miami and then UCF beats Florida, that's better for UCF. I'm like, we're not there yet. Yeah, I mean, it certainly would be good. Look, that would be a good thing.

But I have no rooting interest in this weekend. I just hope both teams have fun. You have an inside track to stay champ if you absorb transitive property. See, that's what I'm talking about, transitive property, and you know we at UCF do love the transitive property. It's almost a program built on transitive property. It is, literally.

No one there is from there. Jeremy and I had a nice, calm, rational, sans hate conversation about Central Florida. I think that Central Florida. Don't call us Central Florida. UCF. Just UCF? Okay, I'm sorry.

Every brand in Mike. I'm sorry, I meant no. Not the Golden Knights, not Central Florida, the UCF Knights. Sincerely meant. Or the Central Knights. Not the Florida Northern Institute of Technology. Central Knights.

SMU back there, man. University of Central Florida? Sincerely meant not the Florida Institute of Technology University of Central Florida yeah, but when it was like c dot FLA or Central, Florida on the bottom line It always used to piss everybody off so UCF. That's the branding any any consideration to Orlando State no I kind of like that. I don't hate it Orlando State OSU it happens San Diego State, there's a Fresno State, there's a Boise State. There's too many OSUs already. You do it in Disney, you do it like Mickey Voice. OSU!

Yeah, but then you could use an orange as your O. Yeah, as the O, yeah. I don't hate it. Or the Epcot ball. Oh, yeah. Or the Citronaut head. Or Kiltie. The NIL money from Disney. Oh? Someone do Kermit, I don't know why, I've caught ball

Someone do Kermit, I don't know why just someone do it. I think we're always got a like a six out of ten Kermit really Chris doesn't think so he made fun of my I mean you were a suey nominee But I thought enough of it to put it in the nominees. It's an honor just to be nominated, Roy. It is, I'm honored. If I'm being real, that day, three of us did Kermit, Tony's didn't make it. Wow. That's fine, I don't care. You know what, my problematic Zagacki didn't make it either

and I was a little hurt by that. That, of the chorus of Zagacki's, I thought I was gonna hear yours and I didn't hear it. Mine is so good, I don't need to be in the suey. Tony's is good. The suey's, if you don't know, the suey's have been going on all week long. Today we've got best musical performance

and that one is usually probably the most contentious, right? Because people really get in their feelings about this one. Subjective. Our song makers, which is basically just Yeti Blanc and Andrew Streeter, and then there's a few other guys in there, but yeah, they want that to win. Jeremy? I'm team Taylor.

Taylor? Taylor's gonna win. Taylor. We worked really hard on that Peppas. Was Peppas nominated? Of course. The sad Peppas. That was this past year?

Damien Lillard. It was about a year ago. We can get to that one, by the way. Whoa. Is any of the Because Miami songs in there? I think we purposely kept them out. Yeah. Wow.

This is not a political. We had like so many nominations without them and it's just like, it's already too crowded. Yeah, okay. Dude, I'm telling you, I gotta, we gotta audit the whole suey nomination system because there are some things I'm told, oh yeah, that was before the cutoff last year.

And then you tell me, Taylor's song is in there. Which Taylor song are we talking about? The Sad Peppers. They're all good. Sad Peppers was They're all good. Sad Peppers was after the Heat got eliminated from this play. No, that was Damien Luthor.

No, that was the Damien Luthor. Taylor had nothing to do with Sad Peppers because musically, that was at a certain level. Taylor aspires to a level much lower, which is the charm in it. I think even he would concede. Bad is good when it comes to Taylor. And in some instances, with like the Mariner song,

for example, sometimes really bad can be really good. Oh God, now there's controversy happening because now everyone's nervous that Sad Peppers In some instances, with like the Mariner song for example, sometimes really bad can be really good. Oh God, now there's controversy happening because now everyone's nervous that Sad Pet Busters before the deadline. Blazers trade Damien Lillard to bucks in Blockbuster Trade October 12th, 2023. Okay, we're good.

The last thing we need in this category is more controversy because as we know, people do stuff the ballot. There is some sort of concerted bot-cheating thing going on with this category. We've fixed this because we have done the ballot. There is some sort of concerted bot-cheating thing going on with this category. We've fixed this because we have done the opposite. Last year you could vote a million times, now you have to fill out a form just to vote once.

And you know what? That's how it should be. One of the biggest things I've hated over the last few years, or maybe it's not 10 years almost, when NBA.com was like, yeah, it used to be you have to fill out a form on NBA.com to vote for your All-Stars. Now it's just like, hey, just tweet the guy's name. I was like, yeah, just, you know, it used to be you had to fill out a form on NBA.com to vote for your All Stars.

Now it's just like, hey, just tweet the guy's name. I'm like, what? That doesn't make any sense. So that's how we got Zaza Petulia almost being an All Star and stuff. I'm with voter reform. Thank you, Meade. You got a show.

IDs too. Now that limited fake made it. With courage. Out of curiosity, because I express my displeasure, when people go vote for best dismissal, does it say Mike Ryan dismisses Mario Crisible? I believe it does. That's really unfair to me.

And also, I did five hours on Kane's Insight, we did a great marathon to hype people up. I had five straight hours with no commercial breaks. And I kind of felt pretty good about my chances on getting Mario Chris-a-Ball on that show at the beginning of the week. And then something happened, and then my communication kind of went,

no, no, no, come on. Don't come on me. This is what I was saying. You do things without noticing. You do things without noticing. You do things without noticing how they'd impact you, just because you'd like to get your little laughs on the side, like, oh, this will annoy Mike. I'm not here to help your side projects.

Oh, yeah. No, it's that side projects. I know. I'm kidding. It's like, I deal with this person on a routine basis. Yeah! Let it out. Mike, have you ever had to have a conversation with them,

like, it's just a dumb show that I do. Don't listen to them. Often, and this one will be my favorite. And their reaction is usually what? I mean. Yeah! Let it out! Yeah, that's their reaction.

You know what, I'm not doing myself any favors, because I think I've actually worked a lot on myself, and my tone has been good. I'm slowing down when I speak about the university in Miami, I get emotional there when people kind of, kind of trying to Josh me a little bit. I don't like that. I don't like getting Josh. So you're like in the chicken, when the back of the ribs here, when you're going up for revenge,

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Polynesian, that's my brother right there. Good call. You're my brother. StuGuts! Oh my god. what a weird interaction Wow, this is the done libertar show with a Stu guards That clip it's been a while that clip in particular was I was calm level-headed Conceding every single criticism for three and a half hours.

And Dan's like, get me more. Well, not every single criticism, because I believe that was the day that inexplicably Lucy and I were both left off the Monday schedule after that game for reasons that still have not been explained. I had no influence over the schedule, but I would be lying if I said I wasn't happy about it. I was loved it.

I was dreading it. That talent email, that talent schedule, I was hovering over my email. I'm like, please, dear God, no Lucy, no Jess. And I said Jenga after it came in. Yatsy. I don't know, it's crazy, it's election season, and we're all getting a crazy ton of scam likely calls.

If you would've told 14-year-old me that I would just send a call that said caller ID is scam likely, straight to voicemail, my 14-year-old self would be like, what are you doing? If you told 14-year-old me that, I would be like, what's caller ID? Yeah, that's true too. Remember prank calls?

Oh my God. Because we had to- Tricky boys. The Simpsons, with call in no mo most tavern Like that's a bit that can't live anymore No, you thought you guys talk about stuff that doesn't be well and usually stuff that's canceled or whatever like no That's the stuff that doesn't age well I can't show my kids a you know how Bart will call because like why doesn't Mo just know that it's coming from the Simpsons

House I bet we could prank call my dad right now could we? Number that nobody 67 anymore if it was a number that nobody- Can you not do a star 67 anymore? If it was a number that he didn't know- I don't know if that works. I feel like we could get him. Star 67 does work, like in terms of blocking it- How about star 69? I don't think it works for someone that's star 67.

We used to do star 69, it would not show, at least here, it would not show the caller ID. No, that's star 67. I thought star 69 is called back when you don't know who called you. Yeah, which was- If star 69, it calls back show the caller ID. No, it's star 67. I thought star 69 is called back when you don't know who called you. Star 69, it calls back the last number that called you. Well, which is what you would do to counter

the prank calls that you would receive when I was in high school. I mean, it was a glory day, it was a prank call. The glory days. Everyone would try to star 69, but people would star 67 on the front end and you can't actually get back. The person who came up with star 69,

were they just a deviant? They could have chosen a lot of numbers. Mike, I need you to wax poetic. I need you to take us back to you in high school. Like, the little music is playing in the back. Dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, and like, it was a great summer. We used to prank Carl.

I got pranked a lot in high school. This one comes as a surprise. By who? By high schoolers, because my dad was out of town a lot. high school. This one comes as a surprise. By like high school, because my dad was out of town a lot, a lot, like half the year. I was by myself in my own home. Did you answer the phone, Ruiz residence?

No, I wouldn't do that. We had caller ID back then, but no, I was, you know, people knew that I was alone at home, so they would either prank call or people would like do stuff to my house. High school wasn't very fun for me. That would be a good movie series.

If you did alone at home and people doing things to your house. Do you guys remember how embarrassing it would be if you wanted to talk to your crush and you'd have to call their house and then the parents would answer and you'd be like, is Joe home? That was actually my crush's name. May I speak to Joe, please? Yeah, and they'd be like, is Joe home? That was actually my crush's name.

May I speak to Joe please? Yeah, and they'd be like, okay. Who's calling? This is year 10. I remember beeping crushes. I remember. What is that a euphemism for? No, you would beep them like.

Pager. But what is the beep? 143-50, no, 5-885. I would just do 8,008. Yeah, no, wait, what is it? No, eight, zero, eight, zero, zero, five. Sorry, I can't spell the numbers. And then you'd sit on the bed with the landline

and the cord and you'd twist it around and your little feet would be in the air and you'd be like, ooh. On your stomach, kicking your legs back behind you? The first conversation I ever had with my now wife was I thought she was cute and I Wanted to talk to her and I sent the home. No, I hit her up via aim. Oh Yeah, I shot my shot, but her away matches was on showering BRB. I

Know she had to accept the request and I asked like what's the homework tonight? It was a Wednesday night What's the homework that a boy was no Wednesday night? It was a Wednesday night. What's the homework to that, boys? There was no Wednesday night homework. You know that. I went to a Christian school. There was no homework. We're married now.

Have a child. See, it works. I met someone in Key West who went to high school with you and your wife. Oh, yeah? Who? I don't remember. I don't think they told us their names.

OK. That's nice. So it's a drive by, like, hey, I went to school with Mike and Cynthia? No, it was like, hey, Smetty. Hey, Willow. And I was like, hey. Willow?

Yeah, they knew Willow. Oh, oh, because I was like, I had a teacher named Willow, and he got totally red-pilled He was like one of the cool guys. I don't know what happened well I kind of know what happened Facebook happened. Oh yeah, and then we chatted for a while And then we went back is there a possibility that he gave you his name, and you don't remember it. Yeah I think there's a sincere possibility that that's exactly what happened there. There are so many beeper codes. Yeah. Like you can have full conversations.

911 was the big one. Yeah, call me right back. Like 0563. Dude, dude, don't leave me. It was up until recently, doctors were still using that system. I think my father-in-law still has a beeper. Dude, I'm telling you,

like I did not get to experience it because that was, in my day, if you had a pager, or if you asked your parents for a pager, they would say, the only people who need pagers are doctors and drug dealers. Which one are you? And I'm like, oh, this is so. The doctor.

Sometimes they're the same thing. Remember two-way pagers? Oh, man. Now I can aim on the go. Well, that was what led to the sidekick, right? Eventually, the evolution of the two-way pager was like what if I could also make phone calls with this? And then voila, sidekick.

And you had AOL Instant Messenger, you had MSN on it, you had all the different messaging apps, and you could also text with a QWERTY keyboard. Jeremy has a very important update for us, by the way. I did the research, I went back and looked at all of our talent schedules, and Jess and or Lucy had been on the schedule every single Monday since the first week of July,

until the University of Miami lost to Georgia Tech. I was very fortunate that day. It was the first Monday where neither of them was on the schedule for three months. I have no, no schedule. Luck of the draw. No way. Luck swung in your favor after it swung out of your favor.

Mike, you are perhaps our most degenerate gambler on the team, right? Is there someone here who's bigger than you? Allegedly. I want to say, yeah, let's be careful. I'm not calling you degenerate. I'm a responsible gambler. Taylor's unit is oddly high. Yeah, Taylor, I's be careful. I'm not calling you a degenerate. I'm a very responsible gambler. Taylor's unit is oddly high.

Yeah, Taylor, I like to gamble. I like to place bets, I like having action, yeah. I'm not a junkie by any means. No, no. The gambles that I make are more professional in nature, but yeah, yes, I will concede that out of this unit, most certainly, I'm the biggest gambler. Well, because I've been hearing talk

about your biggest NFL future bet to date. Yes, it was, now this was also slightly spoiled, it came to my attention, but I've never been a futures guy, primarily because I don't bet that way and I kind of want the money. I don't want to stash money away waiting for something all season to come in.

But this is the first time that I'm kinda changing my approach because I saw some value on the board. And so I placed a pretty heavy pop multiple unit prop that on one specific rookie player to hit the over, over under on his receiving yard total. It's the biggest future bet I've ever made. Are you gonna give us the name or is this? Hidden on purpose. I'm glad you asked I was just doing radio. Oh Marvin Harrison jr. Oh

Marvin Harrison jr. Is over under is set to a thousand yards if you find it at DraftKings Sportsbook a thousand point five I I smashed that over I smashed that over he's a tremendous player I think he's gonna just stroll into that lineup, be their number one wide receiver. He has a quarterback that's gonna throw it. And plus, there are more games this year, a thousand yards isn't what it used to be. I think he easily cruises past this number.

And if he doesn't, it would be like one of the biggest shocks of my life. Cause I rate him highly. The thing about it is, I just wonder, like you're kind of, it's more about Kyler Murray than it is about Marvin Harrison. No, no, no, no. No, I understand.

This Arizona team is going to be down a lot. They're going to be chucking it. That is a part of it. But this, for me, and Tony, I don't know if you feel the same way, this is entirely about Marvin Harrison Jr. He's a spectacular talent. He's one of the best wide receiver prospects that we've seen since Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase.

Like he's incredible. Megatron, like his numbers and what his projections should be are incredible. The thing is, have you seen any of the action move on that line? Have you gone back and been like, oh, wait a second. It's kind of trickling up or down. I couldn't hear you because Jeremy was whispering in my ear something about UCF, so I apologize.

That's not, exactly. Have you seen the line move a little bit? No, I haven't seen the line move, because I kind of said it and forget it, so I haven't seen the line move. I imagine this show has such influence that we will move this line. In fact, I feel like by speaking over the air right now,

we are moving this line. It's minus 125 to beat Betty over in that. Look at that, it was minus 110. We already moved the line. You can hear the people rushing to their apps right now, nationwide, watching us on the YouTube, because they want to lock in this future. I also have a pretty good college football future that I feel good about, which is juicier,

because that minus 125, you're laying some big for a couple of months you don't necessarily like that you want some big juicy futures and I think in college football we're at a really interesting point so sharps professional gamblers right guys that are really good at this I've always heard that they research on college basketball like crazy and they just pounce on the early season lines in college basketball and over a two-week span these guys essentially make their years because it's a difficult sport to handicap. There's so much roster turnover, there's a lot of variables, no one really knows what a team is gonna be, so if people really do their research, talk to the

right folks, you can game the system. College football historically hasn't been that way. We see lines like this week, Miami's favored by two and a half on the road, according to Drafking Sportsbook at Gainesville. This is a heavy public line. They're, the public is pumping up a road favorite that is not in the SEC, a road favorite that for 15 years has lost almost every big game it's ever been outside of one beautiful night at Hard Rock Stadium against Jess's Irish. So we always fail. By principle, I'm always like, let me take that home dog, that home SEC dog, Florida, are you kidding me?

In that atmosphere, week one, a really heavy public road fave, but we're at a really interesting point and there's so much roster turnover now in college football that it's really difficult to handicap these week one lines. So for me, I'm just totally staying away because I got enough action on this game already. Not betting on it because by principle, I'm scared of the situation. Traditionally, I'm always on Florida in this spot,

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I got them at 17.5. They're now down to 15.5. It may tumble even more. I like Boston College. There's too many points. Another teaser for Jen CFB later. Florida State has the rare week one must-win game. Oh, we had the appetizer last week,

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For additional terms and responsible gaming resources, see dkng.co.ftball. Don LeBattard. If Daniel Day-Lewis did it, you'd be jerking off all over yourself. Oh, come on. Yeah, I would be. Aggressive description.

I mean, what is it? What is that? I'm just saying. You know what? That's me. You're just saying what? That's me. That was something Bruce did yesterday.

I see that photo of Daniel Day-Lewis looking like Lincoln before he's about to start filming Lincoln and you know what I do I mean stugats. I jerk off all over myself. That's what I do Lincoln who you outed the other don't make this a rejoin This is the Don LeVatar show with the stugats So Mike, one of the things that you mentioned in your Big Futures bet was you're betting on Marvin Harrison Jr., obviously a storied career at Ohio State, the bloodlines, you know who his father is, we shan't say his name. Try not to. But there is something, I'm not going to say untoward, but a little off surrounding Marvin

Harrison Jr. And I don't know if you guys know this. You can't buy his jersey. Not because it's sold out and it's the hottest ticket on the market or hottest jersey on the market. It's not being sold. You can't go to the team website and buy it. You can't even go to the team website and customize one.

You know, say, okay, I'll make my own number 18 Harrison Jr. jersey. You won't be allowed to do it on the website. And the reason for that is because fanatics that has the merchandising deal with the NFL in terms of selling merch, they're currently embroiled in a lawsuit with Harrison Jr. and his father.

That's where they messed up. That's where they messed up. So I've been workshopping a fanatics take for years that I've been afraid to share because fanatics is really powerful. They've gotten in the content game. They have partnerships everywhere, but also consumers, there's gotten in the content game, they have partnerships everywhere, but also consumers, there's social media accounts out there,

consumers have legitimate issues with this monopoly that Fanatics has over the entire industry. I, for one, have been a victim of ordering several things from Fanatics, not getting what I ordered, or getting it misprinted, or having some mistakes. Not even custom stuff? Not even custom stuff. Like when I was Brown's fan,

I had a Nick Chub jersey where the number 24 was like over here. What? Yeah, it happens all the time. Like happens all the time with Fanatics. Like I said, there's websites dedicated to it and the consumers are kind of holding the bag here, not just because the products have kind of been diminished, but also the creativity on championship merchandise,

let's say. Fanatics is really kinda cookie cutter with some of their designs. And so they've taken over a lot of the uniform printing and people are upset with this. And I've wanted to share my frustration as Roy and I are big uniform guys, and I know he probably feels a certain way.

I think both of our worries were a little bit alleviated with their NHL designs. We were worried about how that would go. Wasn't so bad. As far as the championship merch or as far as actual jerseys? No, the championship merch I think totally missed the mark. Right.

The championship merch, I didn't buy any of those hats or any of that championship stuff. It wasn't appealing to me. It was all like, if you ask early stage AI to design a championship shirt, this is what it would look like. It did nothing for me, but I think we're at a point right now where you have to be careful because, number one,

Pablo Torre, he's joining us, he should find out about Fanatics because a lot of these partnerships that they have with the leagues, they're invested in this company. There's equity there, it's all kind of unseemly. So my end game here, as I ramble on, Spence, is if you actually have an issue with fanatics, if you yourself have been a victim of a misprinted jersey

and you want to root for the demise of fanatics, they put Marvin Harrison Jr.'s father in a lawsuit. So your time may come. Because that is not something that you do if you want to keep on existing as you are. Certainly if you want the arrow to continue pointing up, you do not sue Marvin Harrison Jr.'s father. You do not even say his name,

let alone name that name in a lawsuit. You do not do this. So if you, like me, have once opened up a package from that company and been like, damn it, no, how can they keep getting away with this? They will soon not be able to. So if you don't know, basically they did an NIL deal with Harrison Jr. that was supposed to pay him

a million bucks and he was supposed to sign 30 game jerseys. Marvin Harrison did sign this contract. Marvin Harrison, it's irrefutable. There was a Marvin Harrison signature on the deal. But not the one that they're suing, the problem is, right? Because Harrison said, quote, it is not an agreement between Fanatics and me. I was never requested to, nor did I ever sign any document that personally obligated me

to do anything concerning the binding term sheet. And so, it's what a... So how does the father get dragged into this, mean? Well, in the avid David, it says that the father is the one that signed the term sheet, and not Harrison Jr. And that's who their big beef is. But as a result, they basically froze all sale

of his jerseys, which is crazy, because I live in Arizona, and like, it was a big deal that they got. As it should be. He's probably the most heralded draft pick they've had since Kyler Murray, and dare I say it, maybe a little bit more than Kyler Murray. The level of excitement. All the heralds were talking about it.

Fitzgerald was probably number one? Yeah, pretty much. Fitzherald. It's hard to say can't miss, because especially with the quarterback position, hard to say can't miss because especially with the quarterback position, like Andrew Luck was can't miss and Andrew Luck, while he having a good career, he didn't exactly live up to those expectations. Trevor Lawrence was another

guy that's, this is a can't miss prospect. It's early for Trevor Lawrence. Andrew Luck didn't miss. I mean, he retired, no one had that in the card. At the wide receiver position, if you have one of these guys that are universally heralded by all the heralds all the heralds they usually live up they yes absolutely and this guy is seems as close to can't miss of a prospect at that position as there can be it's like it was created in a lab when you think about it I mean genetically kind of was well it's one of the greatest receivers ever that had a hand in it the the wide receivers coach for the for the Cardinals

Yeah, but juniors got so many better physical attributes than his father is his father If you if you watched him play, you know, very thin He would catch the ball go out of bounds because of his frame Marvin Harrison does not Marvin Harrison jr. Does not have that frame He's faster. He's he's better across the board, which is frame. Marvin Harrison does not, Marvin Harrison Jr. does not have that frame. He's faster, he's better across the board, which is crazy because Marvin Harrison, well, Marvin Harrison Jr.'s father was incredible, an incredible receiver. Yeah, the wide receivers coach for the Cardinals,

Drew Terrell, said obviously he's more advanced in that he's almost been groomed to do this since a young age. Almost as if. Since the first conversation I ever had with him in pre-draft, he's been a pro. He knows what the expectation is. He's very hard on himself and knows what to expect

of himself, ladies and gentlemen. This is like, this is what front office is. I won't even say NFL front office is. This is what front office is beat off to. This is porn for them, right? Like when you give me someone who's like, this guy, son of a pro, and carries himself in the most professional way, and is elite in talent,

and work ethic and all that stuff, yeah, I'm gonna grab some Vaseline and some Kleenex. You mentioned that, but like if anybody has any concerns about Marvin Harrison Jr., it might actually be the father. Right? Concerns? Concerns, because the father. Because the father.

Because of the lawsuit? Do you remember when Marvin Harrison Jr.'s father was playing in the league? Because he never spoke, a mythology built around him, and everyone, all the commentators, every Colts game, it was like a drinking game. Man, that is an absolute pro. You want your kid to grow up and be Marvin Harrison Jr. built around him and everyone, all the commentators, every Colts game, it was like a drinking game. Man, that is an absolute pro.

You want your kid to grow up and be Marvin Harrison Jr.'s father. Well, he didn't speak up until the first Super Bowl. That's when he began speaking. Well, other people started speaking. And then you realize like, oh, this dude is tough. You don't wanna cross this guy. Like, there's accounts out there on the internet.

I didn't see any of them, but I've heard rumblings of a slap at a pro bowl and far worse things out there. So you would, if I were a personnel person in the NFL, that'd really be my only question about this prospect, entering the league. Like the bloodline, what's going on there? What can you clear up? So for out the gates, out the gates for his career

He's got this issue with a huge league partner in fanatics and also his father is now embroiled in this fanatics thing. It's kind of like well we were kind of concerned about about your dad being involved and you haven't even played a pro game yet and and you haven't even played a pro game yet, and your name is in headlines in a lawsuit with your father attached, that kind of confirms some of this stuff, doesn't it? I think the issue is, again, it goes back to what you started with,

which is fanatics, this monopoly of, look, if you want to wear this guy's jersey, you gotta go to us. There is no other way to do this. And it's not like they're, it's a Nike jersey, but Fanatics is saying we control the pipeline. Dude, that's my main overall issue. Like why can't I go to Nike town

and buy a Marvin Harrison jersey? Because Nike has outsourced the manufacturing of this stuff to Fanatics. It has a Nike swoosh on it, but that is just for brand appeal. This is a Marvin Harrison dude. Because Nike has outsourced the manufacturing of this stuff to Fanatics. It has a Nike swoosh on it, but that is just for brand appeal. This is a Fanatics product. And you look at the entire sports landscape, everything is like this way,

and that is not a fair marketplace. Someone should look into it. Someone should find out. Somebody should look into it. Somebody should find out, perhaps. Especially when all these partnerships, they kind of have equity in this, you can understand why, what Fanatics promises to all these leagues is you don't have to

worry about any of the costs. We cover them and don't worry about the standard. We got the quality control on lock. But the quality control as far as me as a consumer, a lover of uniforms and sports merchandise, I think it's pretty irrefutable over the last few years. The quality is dipped. I mean, pretty strongly it's dipped. Like, this is not... in terms of the sports timeline, I don't think we've ever had a worse merchandise setup in terms of quality, but also in terms of convenience, it's never been better. Fanatics is a great website. It's super easy to

get stuff shipped to your home. They have great deals. You apply the promo code. I've been there. I have nowhere else to go though. They are monopolizing the entire industry. Marvin Harrison Jr. to get back at Fanatics should just wear a blank jersey. Instead of the jersey that they give him,

he creates his own jersey. He doesn't get his jerseys from Fanatics. I don't think he can do that. I'm saying. By the way, this is the workaround that people have been doing. They've been in number 18 Card own jerseys. He doesn't get his jerseys from an addict. I don't think he can do that. I'm saying. By the way, this is the workaround that people have been doing. They've been in number 18 Cardinals jerseys with Harrison Jr. one word.

Like they took away the space between the N and the J. I'm saying if you're an Arizona Cardinals fan, you want to mark it Harrison Jersey, just by number 18 Harrison two. Harrison the second, right? like it's ways around this ladies and gentlemen Harrison with two ends yeah it's not like because there's m dot Harrison is a common surname so it's not like they can tell people who want to buy customized jerseys sorry your name is not allowed this is America

Jack thank you if my last name is Harrison and I want a Cardinals Jersey because I'm a Cardinals fan there's literally dozens of us here in the greater Phoenix area that support dozens of us Harisons that support this team. There's a lot more than dozens. Whose favorite number is number 18? I used to live on Harrison Court. I want an ode to my old street name. Harrison can also be a first name, not a great first name, but it can be. Harrison Barnes, big Cardinals fan. Harrison Ford. Harrison Ford too.

Harrison Smith. Who's Harrison Smith? Safety. Safety. Is he a golfer? Is he a potential sneaky Hall of Famer? Yeah. Sneaky Hall of Fame career, Harrison Smith.

Sneaky? In that you had to ask, who is that? So it's sneaky in that way. I like the idea of like, they're locking up the Hall of Fame and then you're like, what was that? So it's sneaky in that way. I like the idea of like, they're locking up the Hall of Fame, and then you're like, what was that? And then Harrison Smith's like, nothing boss, I've been here. I don't know, I'll keep my eye on you.

He's sneaky in the way that you didn't know who he was, and also if I lined up a bunch of people and said, one of these guys is Harrison Smith, I think you'd struggle to figure out if he were even white or black. Dude, that happened to me yesterday with Robert Kraycraft. What's Kraycraft? River.

River Kraycraft. And I was like. Bob. You fool for going with a conventional first name. His first name is River. Could not. Yeah, I could not tell you. But I also feel like once you find out

someone's name is River, you remember that their name's River. No, not really. That kind of thing. That one sticks with you. Joaquin Phoenix's older brother. That's how I call it. I'm going work on top five rest in peace top five rivers in sports We in the interview we do Stu gots does top five bodies of water. Oh really did anybody do now digs

Oh, no, we just did like Stu gots did like canals ocean No, he didn't do like athletes that can know bodies of what now ranking I didn't have his laptop in front of him where you can Google you gots had canals like really high Really? I bodies of what? I don't think so. Ranking. Well he didn't have his laptop in front of him where he could Google all this stuff. Stugats had canals like really high. Really? I was like what? Look at that. Oh I love a good canal. Suez? Why do you love a good canal? I haven't thought this bit out buddy. I just love a good canal and you're supposed to keep it moving.

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