The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Frankie's Got A Gun

Episode Date: August 9, 2023

Stugotz is grateful to know our security guard is packing after the news broke of someone in Florida winning Mega Millions for $1.5 Billion. Stu explains what he would buy if he won the lottery, including our video producer Luis. Then, Aaron Rodgers loves the attention Hard Knocks brings, Lucy teaches us how to make friends, Ron Rivera creates a new saga for Eric Bieniemy, and a takedown of youth referees. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunlabel Tarshall with the StugatSpotcast. So I just saw a gun. You did. I did. Yep. I mean, we both did. it was both incredibly reassuring stew. Sorry about that guys and really Terrifying yeah YouTube.com slash libertarian friends watch Chris Cody flex Guys been working out

Hassee Iron temple. Well, how do you define working out? Well, have you been working out? Let's start there. I'm just doing weight. How do you define it? I've been moving my body. Well, yeah, what does that even mean? Just see that. I like to get a sweat in every once in a while. Mm-hmm. You do? You do? I have sweaty stains today. Wait, do I? Yeah, when you flex, I was like, look. Oh, there it is.

There it is. For the pitties. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's deodorant, I think. Kind of like a charcoal gray on top of the Heather. It's a bad color shirt. Do you guys do the deodorant, I think. Kind of like a charcoal gray on top of the Heather. It's a bad color shirt. Do you guys do the deodorant before or after the shirt? After. Yeah, you got to. Because if you do it before, then you get like sometimes the marks on the side as you're pulling down your shirt. To bend what you use though, if you use the dry spray, I don't think you get that.

I go before and then I have to like mission impossible my way into it without those stains. That's how I do it too. So you're taking your shirt and then stretching it and then putting it inside or like you're going like this underneath. I'm sort of going like, I'm like, no, I do like jumping in, I put it like head first and then arms in.

Yeah, I'm trying to slide the arms without the friction. No, no, no, arms and then head. Arms and then head. Arms in. Speaking of arms, I'm glad there's a gun around. Or are you? Because so many people are coming after you. Well, just in general, you guys have been through some things,

right? Like, let's give the brief history of reasons that Frankie, our security guard, should in fact be armed, right? Like, does it make you feel better, Stu? Yeah. It does make me feel better that our security guard is packing. Yes. It, of course it does. If someone were to break in here wanting to cause harm and

flicked harm on us, it's nice to know that Frankie is, well, he's jacked. He is, Frankie legitimately jacked. Yeah. He's a professional and he has a gun. Yes. Mark's too. Is that right? Oh, yeah. I mean, this is all licensed certified in the interest of anyone Yeah, he's a professional and he has a gun. Mark's too. Is that right? Oh, yeah.

I mean, this is all licensed, certified in the interest of anyone's self-defense. A bold war. That's not a thing in Florida anymore, just a fight. Also true. And also, yeah, we're revealing a lot. Frank, you cleared it. When two guys went up to him and said,

hey, can Pablo talk about your gun? Yeah. Because this came up and talking about the mega-millions. Mm-hmm. So the mega-millions was awarded, and it is a person in Florida. And there was a conversation about how exactly that person should defend themselves from Stugots.

Yes. And Frankie lifted up his t-shirt, no pit stains, no deodorant stains, and revealed tucked into his waistband, said armament. Yes. Well, we said we were gonna go up to Neptune Beach. I told Franky to research this. He's very upset we didn't win. Okay, he and I had a 50-50 deal.

So we're gonna go up to Neptune Beach and find the person who did win. I don't know what we're gonna do once we find the person, but we're going up there. Listen, it's close to my house. It's closer than the studio is. There's a tune beach. Right by my house.

Two beaches away. West Palm Beach. I think Jensen Beach, the Neptune Beach. A couple of beaches. Yeah, got it up. Just you and Frankie and like a dune buggy. Yeah, going north up the Atlantic with the gun. Yeah.

What are you gonna do? You're gonna live. I have no idea. It neps someone. I don't understand your plan here. I don't know. David DeFranke, this job. Neptune Beach is so far away.

It's so cool. How are you making this? It's a lie. It's above Jacksonville. Isn't really. Don't know where Neptune Beach is. Right. It's a house.

It's adjacent to Jacksonville, yeah. Do you have all? Is this the space coast? What's the space coast? Is that like kick, canaveral Jacksonville, yeah. Mm, do all. Is this the space coast? What's the space coast? Does that like Kate Canaveral? Yeah, yeah. That's kind of a badass name for a coast. I did go visit my friends, parents, and Viro Beach,

and on their deck, on their patio, I saw a space shuttle launch. And I didn't realize that this was possible, but the space coast should be factored into real estate decisions. It was unbelievable. Probably is, Pablo. It'd be funny if like Tony Khan is the one that won, right?

Like because this is Jacksonville. Tony Khan did Stegot's plan of buying all of your plan, Billy. I bought all this. Of buying every possible numerical combination as discussed yesterday. Tony Khan. Did you guys see the video from, buying every possible numerical combination as discussed yesterday. So what do you go? Hahaha. Did you guys see the video from, I guess it was maybe a week or two ago

of that woman who had won. Maybe it was Powerball or Mega Millions which are the same in Jess's mind. But she showed up. Charlest mind. Jeez. Jeez. Wow.

I'm gonna, I'm gonna pay a fine. Let's move on. I'm gonna pay a fine for that. A hefty one. Yeah That video of her showing up at Like the deli or the convenience store and claiming her ticket and then Like breaking down into tears and then just running down the sidewalk as people with cameras chased her It felt like the most realistic depiction of what it's actually like to win this thing,

which is to say, it's actually terrifying, and your immediate thought is, holy shit, someone might come after you with a gun. And it's two guts. I expect it's two guts to be in the background. I'm just the driver. Like, that's all Frankie needed to ride to Neptune Beach. I offered a ride, and then, you know, what we do from there is up to Frankie. It would be terrifying to win $1.5 billion. I think that it would. I feel like the number one thing you don't want to do is reveal that you

are, I mean, obviously reveal that you're the person who won. You want to keep that a secret for as long as possible. Well, it's why people do. I mean, certain people who win the lottery do not come out with a winning ticket or have their name announced for a good week to 10 days sometimes. I would pay off as many people as possible to prevent that information from ever getting out using I $1.5 billion. I think you used like some states I don't think you have to reveal the name and you could set up like corporations and all that. And then there's like always the doofus that like does it and then tells everybody that I want. You know that there's this show on like HDTV orTV, sorry, that's called like my lottery dream house or something like that.

I've seen that, yeah. And it's literally like, they somehow track down all of these lottery winners, and then they're like, let's find your house that you want to live in, but you only have three options, and you have to choose one of these three. And the first option is always terrible. Right.

That feels like every episode of House Hunters International. Like they always have three options. There's like a high-end option, a low-budget option, and then the middle option. What are your must-hats? And then they always are like we're moving to New Zealand so my wife can be a professional mermaid. Our budget's five million dollars. And I'm like how does this work? And why am I watching all of them? I can't stop. I'm like, I'm so interested in Costa Rican real estate right now, it's not even funny.

But to Billy's point, I think when you win $1.5 billion, what you have won is there are no options. Any house is my house. Whatever house I want to be my house is going to be my house. Why are you giving me three options? I can afford anything. Well, and why do I need HGTV to find a house for it? It's a great concept for a show and now I feel like I might need to go watch it Billy. It honestly It's kind of like oh you won three hundred thousand dollars and you're gonna buy a five hundred thousand dollar house

It sounds like you're in debt Like lottery didn't work out for you, that would be good. But he's interest rates, I don't know about that. My favorite of those shows in which I think you're offered like three options to make a decision is tattoo nightmares. I mean, if you've heard of tattoo nightmares, people bring in regrettable tattoos from their life and they are presented with a suite of possibilities

to rectify this. And so you'll get like your ex-wife's name turned into like a haunted house. That was an episode I thought once. Mike will be on that show eventually. That's where he is this week actually filming a few episodes. Did you see some esters to loan turn his ex-wife's face into the face of his dog? That's what I'm talking about. I didn't know that.

Yeah. Well, maybe it's not real, but I saw it on the internet, so I assume it is. So apparently, him and his wife got into a situation where he wanted this dog. She said, you can't have this dog. And he said, okay, we're getting divorced and then has the dog and then had his wife's face tattooed on his arm, taking up like a huge part of his arm. And the tattoo of his wife has since been turned into the face of the dog that he was told he couldn't have. We can all agree that the dog wasn't the last straw there,

right? There's been some stuff brewing in that place. There's probably more going on. There's probably more going on. There's probably more going on. I remember interviewing James Hardin and showing him a photograph I'd printed out of a man who had gotten a giant game.

Oh, damn you, man. Thank you. thank you. It's a journalism. Yeah. A photo of a giant James Harden face tattoo on his body when he's with the rockets. And I just wonder what that tattoo is now. Definitely got switched into like, shake, Gildes, Alexander. So the thing about Sylvester Stallone's dog tattoo is that they couldn't really

figure out a way to make the shape of the human skull, the shape of a dog skull. So it looks facially like a dog, but with a human head on top of the dog. It was, yeah, it, like a new bus, the Egyptian God. Yep. Exactly like that. I've seen the mummy. It's exactly like that. I walked into this room over hearing.

Stone my thunder. Sorry. Please continue. I walked into this room to just exactly that. Stugots having a side conversation with Chris Cody about who won yesterday's Duane Wade interview. I did. I mean viral viral clip, Stu Gotts, best quote, got, would you get one question in there? I think one, maybe a comment or two about golf. Yeah, I'm good with that. Stole the show, baby. It's my role.

Yeah. We were just texting each other like, good job man. It was all you. We were giving each other credit. Well, he said I came up, like, I was like, I think it was maybe Billy, like one of us that back here. It was a great interview. One of the two of you gave me the Paul Pierce line.

It was great. Both of you are great, but Chris was praising me and I was praising him back. No, you take praise. He took praise. He was just praising you and you praised me. Like, that's like, thank you, but it was all you, man.

Like that interview is made by that question. It was great. A damn was texting me last night and he needs to stop texting me and just detach himself from this show for a little bit, okay? He cannot stop texting people about, he was texting me this morning. Can we get Skipper to talk about the bar stool ESPN thing?

And it's like, no, he can't. He's like in Spain somewhere, like, stop worrying about guests on your show to be away. Yes, and type us podcast descriptions, headers. Dan is really the copy editor if you think about it. Ha ha ha ha ha. The number of merch email line edits, he has sent me. I'm like, I'm not even involved in this.

But he was regretting that we didn't unleash Billy on Dwayne Wade about heat life or stuff and I said it wasn't the time He's to me that too, and I was like Dan like the interview was going very well Why would I have done that in that spot? It would have ruined the vibe completely And he didn't like the heat stuff that one question we did give it He was like water into the bridge don't really want to go there like Dan wanted a follow up there with us doing stick Is it just mirrors Dan sometimes mean to our guests? No, no consistently is. I think he's a sweetheart.

He's awkward. I think the coolgans love Dan. Who do you think breaks up with who in that situation after that interview? I don't think they enjoyed that at all. Don Limitard. Why are you guys blurting out safety names? Oh, it's the best game ever. A little while ago, we were talking about an Nord Pollard.

And now I think we're just playing a game in the studio where we're just naming safeties. Yeah. Kind of like the 90s baseball player game. Like a couple of minutes ago, I just bloated out Brock Marion. Great work. And it made a few people happy.

Yep. Still got Bob Sanders. Yeah. No, he was early in the list. Classic. Very cathartic. Yeah. Adam Archelletta.

Not a good safety. No, but a great name in a name. He had a run. He had a run. He had a run. He had a run. He had a run. He had a run. He had a run. He had a run. He have to run. My name alone sounds like he should be better. Adam was a good safety for a few years. Did someone say Brock Marion?

Yeah, that's where this heart, that was a gambit. Hey, listen, I'm struggling with memories I get older. VCs, they don't live at our show with their stugats. The presented by Draft King Sportsbook, one of America's top-rated sports book apps. Draft King's has all won a Bermuricist Top Raider Sportsbook Apps. DraftKings has all kinds of ways to get in on the action including seeing Game Paul A's props, live betting and so much more.

You just go down when you sign up on a DraftKings Sportsbook app to check it out. It does occur to me that Stugat is absolutely that person who declares to everybody that he won Mega Millions. I was thinking about this during the break. What's the point of winning $1.5 billion just to keep it a secret? I would gloat. I would have to tell everyone. I won $1.5 billion. It is not in my nature. If I won $100,000, I would tell everyone. $1.5 billion, you would know and you would know quickly.

Then tell us your salary right now. I don't want to do that. That's different though. He works for this money. That money. Yeah, the baitable. Every single person back there, sometimes there, sometimes that at all. The cascading background. Oh, Jim, I don't know. What would you spend 1.5 Bill on, Stu?

What are you doing with it that you can't do now? Grove 23 trips. still on stew. What are you doing with it that you can't do now? Grove 23 trips, you're gambling at all with Michael Jordan on his course, am I right? Yeah, that's certainly one of them. I'd finally take a vacation. Yeah. A lot of weed. Would you buy a sports team?

I'd buy a dispensary first an entire dispensary just for me and Pablo Can we put that on the pole? Should stugots uses lottery winnings to buy a dispensary for him and Pablo it'd probably be cheaper just to buy a lot of weed every week It's a lot of I don't want to do anything every week anymore people you got to pay Yeah, but diversifying your portfolio now you you got a little interest in the weed game, you know, make it money. I feel like if you have $1.5 billion, you don't really need to do a lot of stuff.

I think the weed comes to you. Yeah. I feel like we're struggling to find productive uses for $1.5 billion. Rich people do it all the time. Do you think they need the second and third yacht or the fourth and fifth home? Do you want to yacht away?

Yes, you can find it in this country. Do you want a super yacht? Like or the fourth and fifth home? Do you wanna yacht? Yes, do you think it's a benefit in this country? Do you wanna super yacht? Like, I'm earnestly asking as a question of, like, what are we seeking on this planet? Like, what can you not do now that you're like, if only I had $1.5 billion. I would buy a jet, I would buy a jet, not the jets, although I would buy the jets as well,

but I would buy a jet. Things that make my life easier. I hate traveling, I do a lot of it, I know, that's kind of funny coming out of my mouth, but making it easier would be something I would spend money on. Buying a yacht is something I would spend money on. Buying a really good, I would buy Lewis. Lewis is on our TV staff. Well people aren't for sale. Hamilton? Yeah, but no, I think Lewis says. I think buy Lewis. Lewis is on our TV stuff. Well, people aren't for sale. Hamilton?

Yeah, but no, I think Lewis is. I think Lewis is. Yeah, I think Lewis is. And the reason I'm picking Lewis is we share the love of cannabis. And because I wouldn't love that. I love Lewis. What's your name?

Oh, Lewis doesn't care. We're just putting everyone's business out there. Lewis doesn't care. I've had these conversations. Frankie has a gun. Lewis loves we. That was you. That was you. I mean, that was you. What the God? Lewis is on camera and now waving his arms like no, like, okay, I love Lewis. Lewis has been the Tahoe with me three times and each time

that we've been there, we have this connection, this bond, and I just like it. I like having him as a part of my life because he makes me smile. And I like people that make me smile. How much would you buy him for? I don't know, whatever he wants, he can name his price. I got one plus five bills. I'm interested in you saying what his worth is. Yeah.

Yeah, what do you think Lewis is worth? Lewis is worth a- Go around the room and say how much you'd buy each person for. Well, let's see. Or would you pay us to keep us away? Because I'll take that off too. No, no, well, it would be a great day for Billy, because he would no longer have to deal with me.

I mean, I throw him some money on the way out. Thank you for everything. You would. Sorry for the headaches. You would free Billy by buying him as your slave. I'd like to have promises of money. No, I would give Billy actual money and apologize for all the headaches that I've caused.

Yes. All the visits to the doctor. I mean, I'm glad we got to compensating Billy after running through a list of things, including buying Lewis. His friendship. I like having Lewis, don't think Lewis for a second would not take my offer. Why are you buying Lewis and not like Bob Weir or John Mayer, just to, you know, buy all the money. Lewis first, cheaper. Weir or John Mayer just to Lewis first cheaper.

Well, I have a little recap considerations. I have Lewis to take care of these things now. So it's on the payroll. Some of the appreciating asset considerations, terms of your favorite musicians too. What would you buy? Yes, I would have that in company playing in my backyard every single night. It would be great. I would say that I'd like to buy a big house, but having a giant house seems like a real hassle

Like do I want a staff? Sure having a huge house. I mean look I live in a two-bedroom apartment in New York It's so rough for you. I mean he's talking about a house that needs a staff that seems like you live in a two-bedroom apartment in New York You're right. You're already a millionaire that what are we talking about a house that needs a staff that seems like. You live in a two bedroom apartment in New York. You're already a millionaire, that. What are we talking about? Which is widely luxurious, admittedly. Jess is right. Two bedrooms. But when Stu got some mentions buying a jet,

I do want to ask about the actual jet. Grease. Okay, let's move out of the realm of buying people. Yeah, in this context. Right. What I say by Lewis, I would just give him a job, a cushy job that pays him a lot of money. Whatever he wants that job. That's what they said. I just like having him around in my life, I do.

Makes me smile. That's what Thomas Jefferson said. He's got eight kids. I don't know what we do about that, but. Yeah, that's a lot of people. A lot of mouth to feet over there. Just Lewis. What's Jay Jacks doing in that studio?

What? Hmm. It's time to ball, y'all. Can we talk about hard knocks? Sure. Doesn't seem like it. I want to move on to the actual jets to Gats because we talked about the jets,

we talked about editing images, tattoo nightmare style. There is nothing that made Aaron Rogers look cooler, more charismatic than this episode of Hard Knocks. It was, I gotta tell you guys didn't fall for it. I fell for it. First off, he really embraced it in a way that I didn't think Aaron was going to embrace it. He was all over. That's a try. It was too much. It felt, I mean, wait, wait, wait. You didn't think he was going to embrace cameras on him. He has a weekly appearance on one of the biggest sports shows in the country.

I just I didn't you love talking to the media. No, I know. I just I thought he would try to be like, hey, focus on the other guys, not me. I don't want to be a distraction here, but you know, you're right, Jess. It's a fair point. I don't know why there have been random. There have been random seasons where the quarterback isn't as big of a story as, so it does seem like

he has leaned into this. There's even the clip early in the episode where he's like, I'm gonna give you, he's talking to the producers. I'm gonna give you a bunch of good stuff today. Right. It was a little too much for me. It was like an obvious, I feel like there have to be

teammates that are like, wow, when those cameras are around, he's a lot friendlier than he normally is. But what we got instead was the manicured presentation of every teammate saying how cool he was. That's true. Like marveling at the Nola passes, marveling at how he throws the ball, like as a sports fan, as a football fan.

That part fell genuine. The part where they were just gushing over his film. Gushing over him, gushing over his film that that. The defensive coordinator gushing over like that throw he made. Yes, yes. He said there's one quarterback in the world that can make that throw. We're going to be in every single football game.

And listen, I got goosebumps for the first time in my life. The jets are relevant. Super bowl. They're interesting. When you had a year of Zach Wilson, that'll do it to you. Right. And also when all of the younger players were telling him that they grew up watching him, yeah, like Jatsby and

should absolutely be excited. And the team that struggled through last season with a quarterback that was very, very hit or miss that they did not think was the guy. Like this is a huge, huge improvement for them. So that all made a ton of sense. But was he hamming it up for the camera? Of course he was.

He's Aaron Rodger. He lost me at the random staffer getting the birthday wish. It was like that's just, you could have done it before. Like you're just doing it out here. I was just like, oh man, I want to like, I wanted to buy it all, but I just wasn't. He was keynote escalating a lot to use the language of pickup artistry. A lot of just look how close we are. Let me, let me bro it up. Let me increase intimacy by being an alpha, touching everybody. There was all of that stuff happening too.

He didn't like it when Zach Wilson took a shot at his arms though. It was like one shot where he pregame for the, the, the, the, the preseason game where he was just like, oh, I got better arms than you are. And Aaron didn't like that. But some of the people that are with the jets he he loves i mean the thing you hack it is someone that

that he loves randal cop is certainly someone that he loves so what are you saying he's doing their sauce gardener he went to a couple of next games with sack court side like i have to say this was great p r for nathaniel hackett yes the whole gold member spiel apparently apparently he's obsessed with Austin Powers and Aaron Rogers was talking all about how he was talking about like deep lore of the Gold member character. He rollerskates. He's hype and aggressive. Why his genitals are gold, like deep in the Austin Powers lore.

And I'm like, this makes Nathaniel Hackett look pretty like chill and cool. I have to admit. What's the appropriate amount of time for someone to become best friends with someone else? Mm. Lucy, how long have you worked here? A month. Yeah, I'd say.

I'd say, I've been in my life. Oh, wow. Wow. Billy will be there in a few weeks. We'll be close. I can tell. Lucy also makes friends on friendship dating apps. It's going really well.

We were talking about that just before the show started. I'm blown away by this. Me too. But I was asking and I ask you guys now what I was asking her. I just buy friends. When you have the opportunity, because it sounds like a lot of this is based on aesthetics, right?

If you're on a dating app, you're basically choosing what your friends look like. You can go through their profile and see what it is that's about them. But you're choosing the look of your friends. So if you can choose the look of your friends, do you try to choose friends that look at your level are less attractive than you or more attractive than you?

Because you have the opportunity to choose what your friends look like here. So you can choose exactly where you fit in this group of friends. Great question. It's less about the attractive level, so much as like the curation of the photos. If you have like model like photos on there

and that's it, I don't think we're gonna vibe so much. You know, I think you're, you know, if it's a photo shoot every time that's no, but I don't really care if you're really hot or really ugly. If you have something in there that's funny or interesting, well yeah, there are ugly people that exist. It's like, damn, she's ugly, I wanna be her friend. But no one wants to be the ugliest friend.

No one wants to be the ugliest friend. No one wants to be the ugliest friend. No one wants to be the ugliest friend. All of Lucio's friends are not wondering if they're the ugliest. That's what I'm saying. You could be the third ugliest friend. But no one wants to be the ugliest friend, right? Well, I've definitely not ever ranked my friends

and we're like, so this is the hottest one and this is definitely the ugliest one. But, man, she have a great person. Let's do a top five right now then. Top five of Lucy's hottest friends. Okay, let me think. I'll get back to you. It does raise the question though,

whether Aaron Rogers likes Nathaniel Hackett because he's useful to him. Cause like, well, no, although I did notice that Nathaniel Hackett came into this season with a goatee. Classic move when you're trying to change your acting. We are ending it, baby. It's the Greg with two G's, Williams approach to mistake an identity.

Was he going by Nate? Because I heard Aaron in an interview refer to him as Nate and refer to him as Hack, which is very different than Nathaniel Hackett. Nate Hackett. Totally different guy, you're right. Different guy. Nate Hackett. Compare Google Image Nathaniel Hackett as Nate Hackett. Totally different guy, you're right. Different guy. Nate Hackett. Compare Google Image with Nathaniel Hackett

as Broncos Head Coach versus the guy who was keynote escalating Austin Powers Gold membering Aaron Rogers last night with the goatee. All of this felt like a conspicuous rebrand and image editing. And it doesn't even matter because the highlight of the entire episode was the Carcucci board. It was. It was. I just now realized though, because of all the skepticism that

Ches has that in fact Aaron Rodgers not only was in on this entire hard knocks thing, it's pretty clear that Aaron Rodgers sees hard knocks as an inside job. Don Lebertard. You know what a razor is Dan? I do not know. I don't know what a motor roller razor is. You don't? No. I razor is, Dan? I do not know. I don't know what a Motorola razor is. You don't? No. I bet you you had one. I did not have one. Really? Let's walk through your phone history.

What kind of phone? I never had a Motorola razor. I did not have a Motorola razor. What was your first phone? Ooh. Not a Motorola razor. Telegraph machine. After that.

The Motorola razor, Dan, was the one that was like really, really thin. That it flipped over, but it was like as thin as like a razor blade, that's why they called it the Razer. What is a telegraph machine? I don't know, they had one in down nabby. Still gots! The Titanic stop has sunk in and stop. John take a bath to a stop is missing, stop! You think that was my phone?

You think that my first phone was the Titanic's emergency signal. This is the Dalai Levertar show with this two-gats. Presented by Draft King Sportsbook, one of America's top-rated sportsbook apps. Draft King's has all kinds of ways to get in on the action including same game parles props live betting and so much more use code Dan when you sign up on the draft King sports book app to check it out it is the case that if you throw some music underneath some clips of Aaron Rogers doing stuff on a football field he's gonna be he's

gonna be stuc, like actually impressive. I am such a big cynic when it comes to him. I believe that Jess is right, that he loves the media, but he just loves to hate the media, because the media is actually useful to him, and when they betray him, he hates it, but this was an example of a quarterback and a media organism working in concert

to great effect that I enjoy it. Yeah, it was just getting back to Hackett for a second. It was great to watch like I snorted a one-hour green line of cocaine last night. It's the happiest I've ever been being a jet fin. I'm serious. And I haven't had a lot to be happy about over the year. I'm gonna play off since seven years. They went to Back to Back AFC Championship games. Those were fun years. But last night to have your team highlighted on that show with that quarterback and see the optimism around that building from everyone

because they have that quarterback. And then just to see that quarterback wearing a Jets uniform for me, it was a great feeling. But I feel like that relationship with Hackett goes back to the back to back MVP. Like, what did that guy be your best friend? If you had two years of 85 touchdown passes and nine interceptions,

don't you think that guy would be your favorite coach one of your best friends? I did think it was funny though, when Aaron Rodgers was defending to Peter Schrager Nathaniel Hackett. Hack recognized Hack, by the way, with you and him, was defending to Peter Schrager, Nathaniel Hackett. Hack recognized Hack, by the way, with you and him, I get it. When he was defending Nathaniel Hackett,

he was not saying this guy is the greatest coach I've ever had. He said, this is the most fun coach I've ever had. He's a family man. He is somebody who was beloved in this locker room. He did not make the claim that actually, Nathaniel Hackett is responsible for the 85 touch steps. And I think that is what I'm getting at

when it comes to the selection of friend. You don't want someone who's gonna take the credit for your greatness, you don't want someone hotter than you who's going to bill Belichek to Tom Brady you in terms of the pie chart of credit, you want the guy who's gonna be exactly the wingman that makes you feel like your most confident self. And that's what Hackett is for.

He's Goose. Yes. Yes. And that is something that I believe, Stu Gatz, you should feel good about because the Aaron Rogers that is confident, and again, put some Leav Shriver narration over anything and I'm in. Genuinely, live some Leav Shriver narration over anything

and I'm in, genuinely, live, Leav. I thought it was live. Live. I thought it was live. That was also a big part. Leav tour. They broke the fourth wall and I mean, I was shocked when the helicopter came in and they were like,

who's in the helicopter? Right. And it was live Shriver and he was coming to practice and his voice sounded so so that was a huge spoiler I'm sorry, but he's boy it's hard knocks, so I don't really it's not a real spoiler He's boy sounded so different talking to Aaron Rogers than it does doing the narration that I was a little like What's going on here? I don't need the narration doing comedy like you know what I mean like I You're not there to make me laugh leave okay. Do your job. You're great at it. You want him to do you are what I mean? Like, you're not there to make me laugh, leave. Okay, do your job, you're great at it.

You want him to do it. You are fantastic at that. Do that. That was a good one. When it comes to the question of intensity though, right, we're talking about coaching, we're talking about when are people doing too much? Should we discuss the Eric B. Enemy's story?

Can we get to that bit of sports? This idea that Eric Biennum is now Stugots with the Washington commanders after leaving the chiefs after being unable to get a job as a head coach. He is now with the Washington commanders working for Ron Rivera. And Ron Rivera comes out to the media

and takes questions and says that some of the players on their team are concerned with Eric Biennum's intensity level. Right. He didn't serve anyone there by doing that. He like for a guy who communicates for a living and I'm certain because I was reading a story this morning as a matter of fact, he's going to go back to the podium today and apologize for those comments

because he left people to wonder, wow, like it fed that narrative of Eric B. Enemy not being able to get a head coaching job at the NFL, right? I really don't care what Sam Howell and Antonio Gibson have to say about any coach go win something, please, I don't want to hear it. Okay. And then Rivera doing that. He's not that Sam Howell.

He's doing that. He cares. He's too intense for Sam Howell. I mean, if anyone watched quarterback, you saw how intense the enemy was and how much respect Patrick Nahoms has and Kelsey in that entire offense for Eric the enemy. He's an intense guy. Stu quarterback or Hard Knocks?

I'll pin you down here. I mean, Hard Knocks has my team on it. Hard Knocks. Can't ask Stu that right now. You can, though, objective. You can look at it. I mean, the morning after, a vendor.

Stu Gotts has reference quarterback. This show has about one million times. It's a great show. It's a really good show. The Eric the enemy question though that you're concluding the answer to off of this data point of how beloved he was with the chiefs is making you think this is not an Eric the enemy problem despite the theories that are not cropping up that this is why there's an Eric the enemy problem. This is a commanders. Yeah. Layers specific issue. They're weak is what you're saying. If his intensity was good enough for Kelsey. If his intensity was good enough for Patrick Mahomes. His intensity should be good enough for Sam Howell and Antonio Gibson. I don't

know why I'm choosing those two. They're just funny names. They have no reason to be complaining about anything. They should be thankful that they They have no reason to be complaining about anything. They should be thankful that they're in the NFL. And that be enemy decided to go there and be their coach. Oh my god. With all his experience, I'm serious. But I assume if you've made it this far in your career that you're in the NFL, you've had intense coaches before.

So for it to be so intense that you're remarking about it to your head coach, that is interesting to me. I'm not picking aside here because it's very limited information because also Eric B&M seems to have a pretty good track record with the other players that he's coached on the chiefs that have been very successful. But I can't imagine that there are NFL players that are in the league that are like, no one's ever yelled at us before.

That just doesn't, I don't know how that could be true. But it doesn't put, it doesn't shine a good light on Eric Biennemy. And now you have Biennemy walking around practice, wondering who are the players who said something? Yes, yes. And then he's gonna ratchet up the intensity on those players once he finds out.

I can't wait to see what does that all mean. You say yes to your own point? Yeah. Yes. Yes. This. Yes. This begs the question, honestly. The Washington commanders, we might have done that yesterday. Pretender or contender?

Week conference. That's all I learned from yesterday. We did them yesterday. We did them yesterday. We did do them yesterday. What do we say? Contender or do we say contender or pretender? Contender or pretender? What we say yeah, what was the answer?

This is might have changed pretender Still a pretender. There is new information. Yeah, right If I said contender yesterday, it's pretender today Pretenders the cat. Woo! I'm glad we brought this back. It does. You brought it back. It does remind me of something else we did yesterday, though, which is due to just feelings

on being a parent, coaching kids. That's the lens you see Eric Bianne-Me through. He wants Eric Bianne-Me controlling this sideline with a parent, coaching kids. That's the lens you see Eric Biennemy through. He wants Eric Biennemy patrolling the sideline with a lacrosse stick. I want Eric Biennemy to be the coach that he's been his entire life. He should not be changing. You have to adapt to your players. Every player is different.

So I understand that from an individual standpoint, but his intensity is something that has always been there for him. And I don't want that taken away from him. And I certainly don't want Sam Howell and Antonio Gibson to be dictating how that man is going to coach that football. The best part about choosing Antonio Gibson is.

The only two commanders I know. Fair enough, that actually makes sense. Is that he's in an ESPN article saying, I haven't practiced like this since I've been in the league. That's probably gonna help us in the long run. I feel I'm probably in the best shape I've've been in a while a long while practicing like this Sometimes people can come off a little more softer more caring, but sometimes you need somebody to get into you That shows they really care at the same time. It's like get this done. So he ain't yelling at me

That's perfect. That's just perfect Sam Hall though That's perfect. That's just perfect. Sam Hall though. Total weakling. Total it. Who's the backup? He is the backup. Who's the starter? Brian Robinson?

Really? Yeah. The more you know. If you leak to one, if you leak to one like journalists that you don't like this guy that he's being too rough, right? You then go to cover your bases and tell another journalist like I like what he's doing. So then you're not the one connected to it, right? Yeah, you kind of have to. Yeah. We're not even certain though that they were complaining. They just said he was intense.

That's why it was a bad job. It's a ron or a variable. It's a Ronder Verra thing. That's where I land on this. It was poor communication. No matter what the actual truth of this is, and there might be valid reasons to think that this guy is actually a bully in ways that are unusual for NFL coaches. Ronder Verra mentioning that in a way that I love because Ronder Verra besides being married to a Filipino woman, that's a real fact. He is also somebody who is making a giant mess for his team.

And now this is a storyline. And now this is actually asking the question of like, so what does Eric Bianne me always get wrong when it comes to interviews? Is Eric Bianne me in these interviews beyond being a black person in America and therefore graded more harshly than everybody else in his coaching demographic?

Is he also just super intense in those interviews? He might be. Uncontrollably intense. He might be. I think the number one reason he doesn't get NFL jobs, and I think it's why he went to Washington, is because a lot of people think Andy Reed is calling the offense there, calling the plays there. It's his offense, it's his design, and that he really wasn't doing much, right?

But now if he goes to, if he goes to Washington and he makes that offense with those quarterbacks and he kinda good, then people will be more convinced that he can be a head coach in the NFL. I think that's why he went there. Like it's easy to do it with my homes and with Andy Reed by your side and Kelsey and those guys do it without him.

And if he does, he'll get a head coaching job. I'm not saying it's fair, but I do believe that's why he went to washington and i'm seeing this quote that i think you said quote i'm always going to be loud always going to demand from my leaders and i'll keep think of his to gots yelling at children uh... they were teenagers

i was a yelling at them trying to motivate yelling with them yelling with them yelling at referees yelling at them. Trying to motivate. Yelling with them. Yelling with them. Yelling at referees. Yelling at the opposing players. What's your go-to referee, Taunt? What are you yelling across? No, the rules.

If those glasses fixed, you have one job. I can't stand referees. I shouldn't say this. I mean, there's no reason to say it. You just did. Yeah. You can't stand the- It's the one place in their life. Loosen their love to volunteer to help enable

your children's sports dreams. Do your job know the rules? It's the one place in their lives. Okay. They're underpaid, Stu. Guys, like they can't possibly be in positions of real power. Listen, I don't set the, you know,

the pay structure for youth referees, and I didn't tell any of them to be refs in the first place. But if you're't set the, you know, the pay structure for youth referees and I didn't tell any of them to be refs in the first place. But if you're going to be one, take it seriously, know the rules, do your job. I feel like the refs would agree. They should know the rules. At least they can do. I mean, we had a referee one time at a game who called the game a tie, even though we're supposed to go to overtime because he wanted to get home early for dinner. So you're saying you're mad at a referee because they revealed themselves to be the stugots of referees because they wanted to eat.