The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Geraldo's Vault

Episode Date: December 12, 2023

🎶 My nuts roasting on an open fire 🎶 The crew kicks things off with a beautiful tune from the sultry sounds of Greg Cote. After last night's Dolphins watch party with show fans, we discuss the laughable results of the game as the Dolphins did something horrible that hasn't happened in years. Are you DolphIN or DolphOUT? The crew is taking notes on who left their fandom aside after last night's game. Then, Jeremy is dressed as Winnie the Pooh and chugged too much honey after debuting his horrible impression, Pablo Torre joins us to discuss Shohei Ohtani's contract determents, what LeBron James' value would be without Free Agency, and to teach the young people in the Shipping Container about Geraldo's Vault. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. My nuts roasting on an open fire, Jack Fraud snipping at my ass. You tied carols, being sung by a choir And neighbors shout quiet to stem the singing fast We all know a turkey and great stuffing dry Help to make the season bright Heavy drinking adults hammered on Jim Beam Won't find it hard at all to sleep tonight They all know that set us on his way. Roofs ruined as he lands his bulky slave.

That's very common. Rain-deer shit all across our front lawns before the beasts snort and fly away And so I'm offering this simple phrase To kids from 1 to 93 All though it's been said many times, many ways, Merry Christmas. Do me. Jeremy is applauding back there. I am not certain he should be lucy is going along to support jermy i'm not sure she should be either a big upset in that song though i will say quite the lovely surprise

but an upset is that the voice would be good and the writing would be bad that's not one that i had there because he's a professional writer, but he wants to evolve into a professional singer and broadcaster, but he doesn't know when Mike Ryan is talking in his headset or on the air. And so in the middle of his song, you also heard his voice live saying fair comment

because Mike told him a Miller-Light rhyme was right there, right there for him, but he chose not Miller-Light for some, well, because he said. I told him when I first heard it, right there for him, but he chose not Miller Light for some, well, because he said. I told him when I first heard it that there's a few opportunities here to change some lyrics to make it a little more funny, and he's just like, I like it the way it is. Yeah, well, it's his song. Exactly right, you're right.

You're right. You know? You ever go to DaVinci and say, hey, about a little more paint here or there. Yeah, I know. Yeah, the Mona Lisa smile should be a big grin. No, you do what you think is right. I love your shirt. Is that the Dan Levitard collection a big grin. No, you do what you think is right. I love your shirt. Is that the Dan Levitard collection?

Thank you. It is. Yeah. I cut down my own Christmas tree. I'm a lumberjack now. The rare flannel in South Florida. I ain't out here warm right now, believe me. It's like so hot in here.

To be clear, we decided that all of that was not good enough for a lot of different reasons that we now offer critique on, and we punished it by leading the show with it. We decided to not reward him. Did you see the smile on his face? It's as happy as I've seen him in six months because he's like, wait, we're starting

with something about me. I know sometimes when a great scoring to guard a struggling, they'll send him to the line for a technical free throw, even though he's not the best free throw shooter to get him in rhythm. Call a couple plays for Greg Cody at the top. Maybe we'll get a better Greg.

I have for you guys off of the top here, some dolphin stuff. Ooh. Stugots lost so many bets last night. It was wandering around yesterday saying, I've got the dolphins and all the teasers and it's more money and more bets than I've ever made on anything. When I went to bed last night, the dolphins were up 14 points and I figured when I wake up the next morning, okay, maybe I lose the straight up bet because the dolphins left the backdoor

wide open. But never in my wildest dreams did I think I would wake up this morning and realize not only did I lose the straight bet, but I lost all my teasers. I had them wrapped in every single teaser, eight teasers to be exact, I lost them all. When did you leave? You went to sleep when they were up 14? Yeah. No up 14 yeah no no I got home and they were up 14 and I went to bed I figured the game was over you left the the watch party and thank you to everybody who came got so many people fluent from all over just for a day hugely hugely moving and flattering and I will say without

getting lost in it to all of you who always come to us and say we dragged you through a dark time, I needed what you brought me last night, because it was really nice to see people fly in from all over, just sit at a bar and a mall and watch a game with us and tell us how much they care about us. But in the middle of it was the single funniest game result that you could ever get if you're our show.

We will get to video shortly here of Lewis from video just despondent wandering around because what happened last night in the game? I simply cannot remember a dolphin game that felt like that for a variety of reasons. They have dared to give us reasons to hope in this region. We do not trust this team. We expect that in December, but this team's gonna be different. And before December gets hard,

that's the one you're gonna lose. That way, because Chris Cody and others had already banked to that one. Stugots said, everyone had banked that one. I'm telling them, hey, football's football, man, don't just tell me you think

you're gonna win all the games because the schedule's easy. Last night, football, footballed in both games, but what I wanna talk about in what is happening as we entered December Stugats and December's hard, and I'm telling you now, I fear that Buffalo's better. And I feared it all year, and it's not because of that game last night.

I just think Buffalo's very good and because I've been in this market long enough, I like so many people on my tech strings last night felt the feeling of the irrational emotional hyperventilation of this feeling right here tonight is worse than a one in 15 season because that one in 15 season I didn't hope for shit. I didn't think like I'm not saying it's reasonable. I'm not thinking it's sane, but I'm telling you Dolphin fans have something here where they've dared to trust this team. And last night that trust was betrayed in a way that we haven't seen all season and

if they can't actually be a good team at least they'd allowed us to reside in the comfort of they're not going to lose to any of the bad ones and they lost to a bad one last night in an inconceivable fashion at the end of that game just to got the win probability was 99.7 for the dolphins. They were up 14 with four minutes left in the football game three minutes to go actually But they also like watching the game had no business being up 14 Like they got lucky was a weird. Yeah, they got those turnovers like that game seemed to shift But then at the end it kind of went right back to where it had been all day long

I agree with everything you just said But the only thing I'm holding on to is that every good team in the league has kind of done this. You lose against a bad team. We'll give you one. Yes, but what every team in the league has not done five dollars for the plan and your voice at the rough night, Dana. Be battled.

By the way, it should be noted that even though you might find some agreement with your take that Buffalo is better, still plus money to make the playoffs for Buffalo. They put themselves in quite the hole this season. But Buffalo beat Miami 48 to 20. I'm not sometimes better teams miss the playoffs. Right.

Sometimes the lesser team win the division. By the way, I don't think that's what's happening. You know, I think Miami's still a good team and this stuff tends to happen during a season. However, that was the rare game you had no business even winning that you somehow blew in in probable fashion. It was a bizarre game because the dolphins played like garbage. This will all depend going forward on to rekill in his health, right? Because without him, they were dreadful when he came back, they were fine. I mean, he's the MVP.

He is the MVP of the NFL. They weren't fine. He gave the offense a spark, but they still had plenty of help from Will Levis on their touchdowns and special teams plays like they they really didn't that game got up to a fourteen point spread and it had no business being there the first three quarters of that game were dreadful the fourth quarter was amazing i object to a couple of things you have said uh... because when you talk about buffalo's playoff chances you are correct but because of what happened last night, the division is still in play. And you can say Buffalo schedule is tough, but so is Miami's.

And I think Buffalo is a better football team. I've thought it for two years, but we will see what happens. You are right. Buffalo might not make the playoffs. But the part I object to more is what Chris Cody is saying. When he says we've seen football teams do this all year. This is football footballing. No, we haven't seen football teams A this all year. This is football, footballing. No, we haven't seen football teams a, do this, lose in a heartbreaking fashion that shakes your fan base.

And also, you had the number one seed in your site, home field, buy, it was all there for you, and you choked it up at home against a bad team on national television. We have not seen that happen this year to anybody. Nope. There's nobody in the league that that has happened to where they've got everything lined up. It almost happened to Baltimore. It almost happened to Baltimore. It's happened to the Kansas City Chiefs two weeks ago. And the Jags. Right. Just hold everyone calm down. Yeah. Okay. Because they still play Baltimore.

Later this season, it was a loss. It was a bad loss. But if Tarekil is fine, I believe the dolphins will be fine. A margin of error that went away. I don't know if Tarekil is fine. And when you tell me that this happened to Kansas City, no, Kansas City did not lose to Tennessee. Tennessee's bad.

It's a bad football team. Like, Buffalo's not bad. Kansas City lost a bad football team. Like, they're not, Buffalo's not bad. Kansas City lost a Buffalo at home. What? None of these teams lose to a two touchdown underdog. Tennessee has no reason in that game to do anything other than fall down on the floor. The problem is that Vray Bull will give his dick in order to win a Super Bowl. He goes lost to the jets. Earlier this season, yes. Just think that the chief's loft to the Broncos when the Broncos were bad, but now the Broncos

watch out for them. And Will Levis told us after the game, that's a special group they got there. I don't like him. But Dan makes a good point. Mike Raeble would give up his deck. I mean, why don't you like Levis? Vani arms. I mean, look at him. You know why I don't like him. Just I don't think there's even words. I think everybody kind of gets the same feeling, right? You look at him, you're just like, I don't like him. If he's on your team, you like him?

No, not really. Even if he's on your team, helping you win football gets. I mean, he also almost costs him that football game that I'll sometimes. But if that is one of the worst pitches I've ever seen in my entire life, I do throw it over and behind Derek Henry's head. How did that happen? I don't seen in my entire life. I throw it over and behind Derek Henry's head. How did that happen?

I don't like him. Greg Cody, give us the perspective as the Homer who had to rewrite that column three times last night. You wrote every column last night and then the one you filed in the last five minutes could not have been something you were very proud of given the insanity

of trying to write the column differently, three different times with nine minutes. That's correct. To the point where on the Bright Line train coming to the studio for this show, I was essentially tweaking the column to make it a little bit more presentable because it was terrible last night. It was one of the weirdest, strangest games I've ever had to write or watch or endure. And here comes the Homer in me, you're gonna tease me for one more about to say. The reaction to this loss is amusing to me. There are eight and one against teams that they should beat. Okay, eight and one. That's pretty good.

I believe in the law of averages. I believe they would do for a game like this. And what's amazing is how Everybody including my wife who's a bigger dolphin fan than I am She's like, oh these were the same old dolphins. These were the dolphins were used to okay. They had a shit game They did they were terrible and Tyree kills it missing a quarter and a half of the game certainly didn't help and arm Stead being out and then losing Conor William that was huge because it to uh... uh... is not great under pressure he has not been rushed like that all season now he has that has not happened all season where he's got five sacks and he's

in trouble all game and at the end of the game you don't have much confidence are going to be able to get down the field right and for the first time this season you you had an occasion to to see him sacked and hope he got up right away because this is the concussion issue raising its ugly head. Listen, they can still win the, they're still the favorite to win the ASEs. The number one seed is still in play. The team has a statement to make against the Jets. I thought the Jets would be the tougher game than Tennessee.

That's the dispiriting part of it. But if they beat the Jets, they're still going to have reached the 10 win mark more quickly on the calendar than any dolphin team since 2000. The good season they're having at 9 and 4 is not abandoned. There's no need to go back to square one and panic. Don Lebatard! Let's go Islanders! Bum bum bum bum bum! Two guts! Let's go Islanders, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, two guts.

Let's go Islanders, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, this is the Don Limita show with this two guts. There's still 97% to make the playoffs. So the discussion we should be having here is just what do we project them in the playoffs? And I have to admit, I said it like a week ago, two of makes me nervous. When you look around the league at other quarterbacks the playoffs? And I have to admit, I said it like a week ago, Tuah makes me nervous. When you look around the league at other quarterbacks,

as much as I love his accuracy, when everything is perfect, I love Tuah. But last night you saw it on the final drive. When ship breaks down, he's not getting out of that pocket. And I'm just saying, I'm still pro Tuah, but you just can't look at him and think he's on the level with these other guys outside of the pocket.

I could rattle off seven quarterbacks. Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Herbert's Hurt, but there's Jalen Hertz. Everybody, when they get out of the pocket, I'm terrified. When it breaks down, the other teams are happy. I don't like this. I feel like Dan and Chris are looking for a reason to be dolled out. And they've just been waiting for it all season long. And they've been waiting for a reason to be dolled out. And they've just been waiting for it all season long, and they've been waiting for a reason to criticize.

Chris has been over here, you know, a secret charge of the whole time. It's three years ago for him. He's here and he's back on the dolphins thing, but he's always kind of been out on the dolphins. So you like to out of the pocket? You guys should be, you guys should watch the dolphins out.

No, no, no, no, no. You don't like them all, don't like them all. Exactly, right. Let's talk about it. You guys are just watching the game, you want to just do this like, either like it or you don't like it. Exactly right. Let's talk about it. You guys are just getting somewhere fast. Exactly right. We like talking in general terms. I just want to talk about two of.

No, you guys want to have reasons to criticize and complain about this team that has given you a 10 or 9 and 4 start so far. Can I be dolphin? You can be dolphin, but we need to decide today. I think because, come play off time, we're not going gonna be the dolphins fan and the dolphins show again,

when the going got tough and you guys got going. It sounds to me like everybody could use a hug because a hug is always the right size. It's a kid. When the poo goes sit in the penalty box. What? For two minutes. Try so hard.

Is that even like an expression of Winnie the Pooh? That he's trying to, he's gotta be, he's got a lot of punishments. That he's gotta, how is he always losing? Or is just no one else doing anything? I think Tyran Armstead and Connor Williams are more important than Tyua. Oh my God.

Oh wow. I think without them, I don't think we're gonna, I don't think we're gonna like the off-off. You're really, man, I mean. I mean, we need our left tackle off. You're really, man. I mean, I mean, we need our left tackle and center. I understand talking about the games we've played this year without them.

Chris, I get talking about injuries, Tennessee on top of being a bad team. They were also pretty hurt. I mean, they had a corner. The injury, the injury excuse doesn't really match up when you're playing the Tennessee Titan. And we can talk about too if you want because we do get obsessed with these things, okay?

And I understand. And Billy, it is a good point that you are making, and I do think over the course of this show, we should identify on charts and with notarized witnesses whose dolphin and whose dolphin. I'm dolphin. I'm allowed to have a thought. Yeah, that's amazing. I'm allowed to just have a thought about two. You don't get to decide.

I think you know what, I don't think anyone else can actually even say if they're dolphin or dolphin, I think we all need to vote on if someone's dolphin or dolphin. Like survivor style? Can I start by saying I trust you outside the pocket. There you go, because I love him like a son. Mike, I vote dolphin. Yeah.

Okay, thank you, Billy. Yes, in fact, okay, Billy, we will figure out how to do that before the end of the show in committee form or survivor form who's dolphin and dolphin. But as you talk about two, and as you talk about their offensive line, and as you talk about Stugatts, you talk about Tyree Kille 4 MVP.

It does sort of ignore that with four minutes left in that game, they had a 14.2 touchdown lead, and it was the absolute fault of the defense that allowed a bad football team to go down the field twice and the second time Stugat in two chunks that you would have expected from the Dolphin offense all season.

The way that they play football, that dolphin defense fell apart and what now comes for two as his offensive line falls apart is all of the criticism because nobody's going to be blaming the defense today nationally. It's going to be about questioning to what nationally the conversation is going to be. I don't trust the dolphins and I don't trust the quarterback because they can be slowed and it's going to be ignored that they were up to touchdowns in that game and the defense totally fell apart. But the argument can be made. The defense also got them in that game. Yes. Because they had the turnovers. They got them to the field position. One of them was special teams where there was that botched punt where they recovered down like the 10-yard

line or whatever. But the defense had turnovers. They had an interception return for a touchdown. They had a thumb of recovery that put them right in the end zone. So like, it was a weird defensive game because they did blow it at the end and they gave them, they gave back the lead, but they also got them in the position to get that lead. The conversation is always about the quarterback. When they win, he gets all the praise when they lose. He's the guy that gets blamed.

Dan, he did have opportunities. Even when they scored and got it to a seven point game they had an opportunity to put the game away with a drive and he couldn't do it. Off the line. They had the ball last. You can blame to all you want but I don't I prefer not. They left a lot of points on the board as well. They're very cute inside the red zone.

Just run it down the road. That's what you got. They've been they've been the best red zone team in the league they were cute last night because they didn't get what you wanted but they've been the best red zone team in the league on offense and i would just consult you i know you're not going to listen to me on this right it doesn't have to be the a conversation is all about to uh... because i'm just gonna do quarterback either wins or loses and that's what I'm going to do. A 99.7% winning percentage, two was on the sideline when they had that.

He wasn't playing. He wasn't in the game to get tackled by his offensive line. And with four minutes left in a football game, they had a no at home and not only at homes to got with a crowd that was pumped up because the the previous four minutes were not right like that what the dolphins did in the fourth quarter before that were not so the crowd is elevated and you let will have us go right down the field on you in chunks like that what is to have to do with that what explain to me what to have to do with that i want to be dolphin so to was great last night i do have a question about two.

Not doubting his prowess, but what's with the fumbles? Huh, in 13 games played, 12 fumbles. You could take you out too, you know that. One of those crucial in the red zone, when it looked like they drew up an interesting play for H&N to get in the end zone, I would have appreciated that. Just drops ball.

I mean, this is ridiculous. This copious amount of fumbles, he's had this problem throughout his career. He's damn near averaging a fumble a game. I mean, we saw the difference. Look, look, it's on the football. What was the difference between the Eagles and Cowboys on Sunday night?

The Cowboys got three of their fumbles. In their first matchup, that the Eagles were kind of lucky to win that they thoroughly outplayed Dallas, they got back all their fumbles. So the difference between those two teams is Fumbles Lost. It's a huge doll foul. I'm sorry.

No, wait, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Just saying clean it up. How about this? He's only lost five. How about this? Jason Sanders kicked the ball between the giant yellow things you need to kick the ball between Billy's golf out enough of no

Billy say he doesn't like the team. No Sanders is gone Sanders is getting cut May say he may still be on the team tomorrow, but he needs to get cut Not on his kicking leg, but he needs to get cut like physically By whom who do you want would never send anyone to do such a thing to him. That's irresponsible. But you're afraid he's gonna get cut by somebody because. I'm just worried. How many warnings can someone get

and not change their behavior? He's been warned. It's Billy. Ship up or shape out. Billy sounds dull. Billy sounds dull out to me. Still got this right here. What do you mean?

How many times can you be warned and not change it? Why are you making this about me? I mean, because he just said, I'm gonna kick her. I know, but Jason Sanders only been doing that for a couple of years. You've been doing it for a couple of decades. That's true.

Cody's the same and what happened? Kicking the ball higher. How about don't get blocked? I don't understand that. How does it get blocked? You know there's kick, I don't know if Jason Sanders knows this. So like, Jason, you know the NFL now is just picking up I don't understand that. How does it get blocked? You know there's kick I don't know if Jason Sanders knows this so like Jason you know the NFL now is just picking up random guys from the USFL that can go 30 for 30 right like

That have perfect fuel goal percentages that kicked the ball 67 80 yards if they need to and they're perfect at doing it. You're getting too comfortable, buddy But I know it's holiday season and no one wants to do it when he's to be done but kick it between the yellow post it's not that difficult thank you great study i watch great do it i can't get a bit of a new york but listen it's it's pointless to parse this loss because there's blame to go around

i thought that the the point of this game was that the dolphins did virtually nothing right they were awful all over the field the defense was horrifically I thought the point of this game was that the dolphins did virtually nothing right. They were awful all over the field. The defense was horrific late. The red zone offense was terrible. Two of us wasn't great. Tyree Kill got injured.

They had a field goal blocked. They were just terrible. It was a terrible game. And they almost lucked out a win because it would have been lucky that they won on two skits. The skits were so close to having an easy cover. When the dolphins that entire game seemed like there was no way, no way that they were going to cover 13 or 13 and a half. I couldn't believe it.

And then they got two quick touchdowns and the game was clearly over. Clearly and obviously over. There was no circumstance under which. Like, at that point, you're saying to yourself only if they recover an on-site kick. Like, there's just no way that that offense is gonna be able to get down the field. Yeah, fuck off, Dan.

Ha-ha-ha. Don Lebertard. One of the great benefits of being married is your wife's purse. You can put so much stuff in there. I would hate married is your wife's purse. You can put so much stuff in there. I would hate to be your wife's purse. You walked in here the other day with silverware in a pocket. That's right, because my wife wasn't here to put it in her purse.

Still got your wife must, must, must be amazed at what a child you are. What do you mean? Just your eating habits. I'm prepared, I am. You're eating habits. You know what? The mess that your desk is. Yeah, the mess that my desk is.

I'd just like to say this right now, every single person in here, everyone who's has benefited from something that I've had underneath my desk, you think that I haven't given people spare socks before because you'd be wrong. You're a hoarder. I'm prepared.

Underwear. Underwear. Chris wore my underwear once this is the dan lebertar show with this to got it we will get to pop low torre and just the second public or he finds out has been voted the best podcast in america sports podcast in america is coming out again uh... he is coming on again uh... god bless football although it deserves to be voted the best podcast in america was not because these

things can be subjective and podlotore won this round but uh... before we get to that lucy you and roi were profoundly disgusted by the amount of honey that when the poor was actually eating that was not a bit that was uh... actual honey it did look disgusting. It had to be like a full cup of honey that Jeremy just, I don't, I don't think. It's gross.

What's the, All I have put in my body today is three cups of coffee and an entire cup of honey. Go to the panel and let him fool you. He said in the break that he's jittery. Go back to the panel to the box,. Please put it on the pole as well at Levitard show. Do you drink honey or eat it at? Levitard show I drink it. Is it a liquid?

Viscous it's a condiment no? What? It's a condiment It's a hybrid. It would be in the condiment aisle. No put it on the pull as well, Juju is honey a condiment In a condiment shit you dips it in That's Miriam Webster right there That is great. It was a transition from liquid the condiment as Got me on that one if I can pour it on something and eat it or dip something in it. It's a condiment folks

Yeah, right honey never goesiment folks. Yeah, right. Honey never goes bad, by the way. Right, that's not true. No, no, you could eat that couple honey 100 years from now and it would still be delicious. Put it on the pole, please. And let's crystallize. It is considered a condiment, then. Thank you. Put it on the pole, please.

For best quality store honey up to 12 months. They're lying. They're forced to say that. Who? No, there's expiration dates. Right. Yeah, the government forces you to put an expiration date on something. Honey, oil, there's certain things that just last in big honey. Just dying to learn what we're putting on the poll here. Yeah. Thank you, Mike. I appreciate your effort there. Is honey just shit you dip shit in at Levitard show. No, that's the definition of a condiment in. Okay, but they froze the kicker. Yes, you guys did freeze the kicker.

There, the video is up now. Please put it up of Jeremy just swilling nonstop honey. That's great. One of the what is John Dust? What is the most disgusting thing anyone like that has had to endure on the show billy was hospitalized for eating an onion and Pablo Tory had to eat pickled pigs feet micrion the pigs feet is the worst nothing is worse than micrion buying off of amazon dot com pickled pigs feet whose color was described in that way where there's like a number it was like red number seven hundred and eighty, and I had to eat it. Put it on the poll.

Please as well, Juju. What is more disgusting to eat pickled pigs feet or tripe with hair on it? Because Mike Ryan ate tripe with hair on it. And we have consumed no shortage of disgusting things. I don't think honey's gonna end up qualifying in order to win this particular contest. Pablo, I wanted to talk to you about a number of things though.

One of them, the Otani contract, what's most interesting about everything happening there to you? I don't even understand how that business and its union can allow that much deferred money for Otani to bet on America and the American economy in a way that he is allowing so much deferred money for Otani to bet on America and the American economy in a way that he is allowing so much deferred money that he is hoping that baseball and ballies and the economy do not collapse. He is trusting the American economy with those deferred men. He's hoping that Dodgers are good for it. I mean, yes, nobody has more faith in the, no

one is longer on the human race than Shohei Otoni at this point. He's like, we'll be good in like 10 to 15 to 20 years, right? Just pay me that. What makes me laugh about this though is how much it makes David Samson angry because of course this is a thing that really only the Dodgers can get away with because the Dodgers in all likelihood are in fact good for it. And so Tony's like, I don't really need the money right really only the Dodgers can get away with because the Dodgers and all likelihood are in fact good for it. And so Tony's like, I don't really need the money right now. The Dodgers are like, we need the money right now.

And so it reminds me why it is that sports and leagues don't actually like having super rich people be new owners because it makes all of the other owners with less money look terrible and they have competitive disadvantages and it reminds me of like why was Matt why is Jeff Bezos not an owner of an NFL team why is Matt Ischbier mortgage lender the owner of the sons it's because it feels like that owner is a guy who's a lot like the majority of owners who is a very very rich man but not Los Angeles Dodgers seven hundred million dollars rich

explain the bezos thing to people because i don't think they've considered the idea that other owners would be threatened by someone like him i know that uh... that the basketball owners are threatened by ballmer because uh... when it comes to being in that club there are guys who are a lot richer than the other guys and the guys who are not as it is rich

and it's almost always guys they feel the threat and the insecurity in that yeah i think it's a parallel dynamic with the nff and i'm sure they're complicating factored the nff specifically via various financial structures but the point is if you are competing in the nff and a lot of these are like inherited assets, do you want to compete against the richest man in the world? It's a really fun thing for the NFL to hypothetically proclaim, look who is in our team now, look

who's in the most exclusive club in America now, but if you're actually, you know, any of these other teams, you don't want to go up against Bezos? No, you don't want to go up against baysos no you don't want to make your life harder because the guy you're competing with is now a zillion times richer than you well this is one of the things i find interesting about how it is they've suppressed prices throughout sports where we all realize what we're doing it if they can afford seven hundred million what can't they afford but by having

a salary cap in football and not having one in baseball you end up with otani getting twice as much as patrick mahalms whereas if patrick mahalms were allowed to compete against jerry jones and anybody just saying we need a quarterback and there is no salary cap patrick mahalms would be earning a good deal more than otani because he's worth a good deal more than otani because he's worth a good deal more than otani because football is worth a good deal more than baseball. Yeah, the analog here is what the saints have been trying to do. The saints have been like pushing back and back and back all the payments they have.

They're trying to again pay guys in the present, pay for them in the future more than the present. And the reality is that the states are not in a good place because of the cap. In the scenario you described, Dan, and this is the parallel to like, what will the bronze, what will the bronze James make without a max contract, without a salary cap? You know, probably $100 million a year. Otani is showing that this is in fact what the wealthiest would pay if you let them, if you let them alone to their own devices.

And it is pretty much everything. Lebron would make a lot more than $100 million a year. Messi's making almost what Otoni does in half of the amount of time. Like when there is no salary cap and rich people and Saudi oil is involved, like it would be very odd. Lebron would get a billion dollars.

He would easily make a billion dollars. And the idea that Patrick Mahomes is cheap compared to Otani is pretty silly given that football's owners are a good deal richer than baseball's owners. $450 million over 10 years from Mahomes. That was the previous North American record. Otani now is like, you know, yeah, I'll take a couple mill on the front end, but just give me everything else. But Dan is right. I mean, Patrick Mahomes in a free market with no salary cap, he get a billion dollars from Jerry Jones. He would. The desperation is real. That much is true. Pablo, what else did you find interesting about the Otoni

contract? Well, I liked that we should just basically contract the angels at this point like that was my big take away it's like oh wait so he doesn't want to leave Los Angeles he had a uh... a team with plenty of talent on it with my trout and the doctors are just coming along and saying you know what it doesn't seem like like you guys were ever in the conversation. I laugh at the ways in which other teams thought they were in the game.

And the angels, Dan, might not even be the funniest one. Of course, it was the blue jays, right? The fact that Robert, her Gevecker, whatever walked off of a private jet that everyone, everyone got turned into QAnon, QAnon, by the way. That's what I laugh at the most over the weekend. It's the idea that everybody in sports media turned into QAnon, tracking private jets, traffic in rumors. Oh, there was a sushi restaurant with 50 Japanese people

renting it, that's Otani. It's like, all right, I guess. I then had to follow up call. I was like, no, that was like someone's birthday party or something. Or there wasn't even a 2C restaurant that can afford to have 50 Japanese people at it. And then it was, this private jet arrives in southern

from southern California in Toronto and off of the plane steps one of the shark tank guys Robert Kergeveck and it's just like it was heraldos vaults but sports it was incredible. Lucy do you know what heraldos vault is because it's so far in our past uh... had an explain problems to lose you what her all those vault is germany doesn't germany doesn't know either i don't know if i'm the most qualified person with red code is sitting right

there to explain her all the people are all the revire on live national television uh... opened uh... a safe of some sort said to be out Capone's and they they teased it for hours and when they opened the safe there was nothing in it there was not even a shark tank member incredible work by the YouTube draftings that word video team showing a moustache out her all know in front of a big vault with nothing in it

that's right literally nothing so good that what a moustache great television all right it off for days. It is so great. Great television. The mustache, great television. The workers with mustache is great. Great television with there was nothing in the vault and we were America was glued to its televisions. What it might do with the following fact that is absolutely true. The angels will pay Anthony Rendon at 19 million more dollars next season than the Dodgers will play will pay Show Hay Oton. Oh that stinks. What's amazing. There's that joke. I'm sure you guys saw it over Twitter or whatever it is we're calling it now where it was like the Oakland athletics are offering to pay Show Hay Otony one dollar for 700 million years and that is basically what the Dodgers are doing.

The Dodgers are doing. The Dodgers figured out how to actually do that. So yes, everybody else, I mean, the reason why Samson is mad, of course, is I think a couple of reasons if I can psychoanalyze him from afar. Number one, he's mad he didn't think of this. Number two, he's imagining if he was running the angels,

for instance, or a little on the Marlins, and he's like, I can't compete with this, what else to do. So he's very mad about that. And third, I think there is the self-loathing of just like, oh my God, I can get away with paying someone nothing for so long effectively. And who knows what happens later?

It's a David Samson dream except it's a nightmare because he can't actually profit from it. Forgive me, I got the stat wrong. Rendon is not being paid 19 million more than Otony next season. He is being paid 19 times more than Otony next season. So he's making 38 million dollars next season. And he will be watched by 19 people in the process of doings. Less than 30 seconds, Pablo Torre finds out what do we have on it?

What are we to expect? Yes, today's episode is very different from any episode we've done. And I'm going to say some words that'll make Stugats, I think, both intrigued and also wonder, really he's going to try to do this. We did an episode about Israel. We did an episode about the Middle East and war and hostages, and we did real reporting, and we figured out a way to tell this as a sports story, in a way that helps explain the right-wing politics of Israel, and also helps explain the hostage crisis, in a way that actually foreshadows where this might be going next.

There are two rival teams. One of them is the preferred team of the administration, the right-wing government in Israel. The other one is the opposite, their rival enemy, and that is the team of one of the hostages who was taken. It's fascinating, Aimos Bar Shod at the Leva reported it for us. I'm really proud of it. It's 42 minutes. Even if you like poop jokes, even if you like laughing at Jeremy, Tasha being dressed as a fetishistic, Winnie the Pooh.

I think you should find time in your day for this. I think it's an important story in a legitimate way. And I am glad actually that we're talking about it. Thank you, Pablo. Thank you, guys. story in a legitimate way and i am glad actually that we're talking about thank you poplum thank you guys