The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Give Me Some Sugar

Episode Date: August 6, 2025

"You like that shirt? COPYRIGHT! Mine now." The crew learns about the knock-off Zaslow bar mitzvah shirt, Mike names 12* Maroon 5 songs, and Billy owns sugar. Today's cast: David Samson, Zaslow, Chris, Billy, Izzy, Mike, and Tony. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is the Dan Levator show with the Stucats podcast. It's over, and I don't just mean my week, because that's not over. It's only Wednesday. What's over, Zaz, it's not how beautiful you look. Oh, thank you. I'll never get over that. Usually I feel like it's, I just look so confident, but I appreciate the beauty mark as well. It's staggering.

Thank you. What's over is the NFL is no longer. longer interested in being a sports league. They're done with it. Roger Goodell, with what I considered to be the quote of the year, maybe the decade, when he said it privately, but it's now public, that he's not competing with Major League Baseball and the NBA anymore. Forget it. He's competing with Google and Apple. I was despondent beyond repair because I was trying to catch the NFL as part of MLB. Now he's done a deal with ESPN and he is on his way. the separator of all separators, where now, if his franchises aren't worth $10 billion,

forget the Lakers, he's going for more and more and more, and he's going to get there. Yeah, this is a trillion-dollar enterprise now. Very complicated deal, because it's being positioned as ESPN owns NFL network, but really what's happening is the NFL now owns a pretty decent-sized chunk of ESPN, and there are a ton of indicators right now that Disney is looking to spin off ESPN. And if that is the case, and if that happens soon, the NFL and its owners, saying to make a lot of money. Dave, I don't think that they can compete with the Googles and the apples of the world

until they come out with their own email, right? If I get NFL email, now I'm in. Hang on a second. Slow it down for me, David. Tony at NFL.com. You're great at this. Explain it to me like I'm 10 years old and I'm an NFL fan. How does this change my football?

How does this change my ESPN? and then how does this change my NFL long term? I'd like you to reach into your right pocket and see if you have $29.99. Definitely don't. And I'd like you to have to do that every month, one time. What does that get me? That's a great question.

It gets you the new ESPN DTC. It's a bundle, though, right? It also comes with the Hulu and Disney Plus. The 2999 is going to be just this ESPN. Also, it'll be a little bit more with the bundle then. Okay. Bundles are funny. You're a bundle guy?

Love a bundle. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I like bundles. Who does it? We're all a bundle guys. You're a bundle guy? I'm a bundle guy too.

Why wouldn't I want a bundle guy too? I almost signed up for a Walmart plus the other because it told me you get Paramount Plus as part of my Walmart Plus subscription. I don't even know how often I. That's a good bundle. That's what I was thinking because I have Paramount Plus and that I'm paying like $7.99 a month or something. But if I got a Walmart plus, I get Walmart Plus and Paramount Plus.

I don't know what I get with Walmart Plus, but two pluses? Hey, David, you're on island on your own here. I have to understand. Do any of you keep track of your bundles? No. Of course I do. I always see that app that's like, hey, you should get this. It helps you keep track.

I don't have that. Nah. Just say, you know, tell me how much money I get to keep in my check. So, David, if I am somebody who grew up with cable television, is this very different than saying, hey, now if you want to watch football, you have to add a 2999 sports package? Well, ESPN is trying to make it now that they want you to want the 24. $29.99. So they're offering all these things.

They just announced this morning that you're now going to get wrestling. If you're a wrestling guy. So $2,99, I get NFL Red Zone and all the big pay-per-views for wrestling? There's going to be a separate digital red zone, baby. Oh, wait, so that doesn't include Red Zone. It's a special kind of Red Zone. I don't like that. But it's not commercial free anymore.

Seven hours of commercial free, people are dead. No one likes... I thought people your age were fine with commercials now. No, no. Not when you, if you initially tell me commercial free, you can't go back on that. Exactly right. What is Scott Hansen? Seven straight hours of partially commercial free football. That doesn't flow as well. What about this side-by-side commercials?

I'm good with that. Where they say, we'll be right back in 30 seconds, but you keep a camera on the game during the timeout. I move over to another game. Titans, Bills are playing. I go over there. That seems like a banger this year. It's going to be one-a-quarterback matchup. Oh, speaking to the bills. So that's the biggest difference there, David, is just a matter of consumer. Hey, you want to watch football, we're throwing another $30 bill into your life.

So really, the NFL has actually kept four extra games of inventory in this deal, and no one's talking about it. Go on. NFL Network used to have seven games. Now, the NFL network that is ESPN only has three games, which means that there are four. I'm talking about NFL Network. I'm talking about inventory. When you're talking cash, what do you need for cash? inventory. The NFL has four extra games to go sell right now. But you used to have to pay for NFL

network to watch those games. So this is no different then, right? I'm not saying that that's not interesting. It's obviously an interesting detail of the deal. I'm just saying as a football consumer, I'm not really telling difference if I'm watching it on the NFL network, if I'm watching it on ESPN, maybe the announcers are different and whatnot. But in terms of a big shift, that's not going to be one of them, right? So what about the ESPN part of it? Is it, just more questionable or questioning their journalism now because they're even further in bed with the NFL? Listen, that is something that we talked about on today's nothing personal. That's a big issue.

Bob Iger came out in the announcement, is he, and said, don't you worry, the journalistic integrity, that is going to stand. And I was thinking to myself, if you're Don and you were doing the investigations that he was doing with the NFL. Do you think he feels good about his job security? I'm not exactly sure the NFL would have great. I mean, maybe him, but I got to tell you, you own 10% of a company. You are not going to sit there and criticize Jerry Jones for four hours on ESPN networks. I'm worried about the journalistic integrity, as you all should be, if that's where you get your journalism. Yeah, but fans slash viewers, they don't care about that.

Like, that's an us thing. We were interested in that stuff. Fans, fans are sitting on their couch. They don't care about the journalistic integrity. People love PTFO. They just did a seven-figure deal rumored. Yeah, but isn't there a difference between PTFO is also, that's entertaining too. Like, Pablo is doing a different brand of journalism, okay?

When we're talking about someone like Don Van Nata, that's like, not that Pablo doesn't do serious topics, but that's like hard-hitting stuff that I don't think fans really, I mean, some fans do, but the majority of fans, I think they just want their entertainment. I wouldn't worry about Don Van Nata being fired for example. Right, I'm just using as an example. Because if I'm ESPN, I'm keeping them in close. I'm not letting him go somewhere else where he can do investigative journalism. journalism somewhere else because he's really good at it. He'll figure out what he's going to figure

out regardless. I'd rather have him under, quote, my control. But you think like fans want all the juicy details of... I think different fans want different things. I want to know if I happen to be reading a story on the NFL with through ESPN that it is legitimate, that it is not something I have to question. Otherwise, I will just go strictly to other outlets, but I don't think it affects my ESPN viewership on the other side where I'm not going to get the 2999 package because those are two different things. I think the fans of the NFL outweigh the fans of journalism by a lot. I think that's what I'm saying. They outweigh what we're learning is fans of the NFL pretty much outweigh every other entity. Maybe it's true fans of NFL are greater than fans of Apple. Is that what

Roger Goodell is saying is going to happen? There'll be more NFL fans than people with iPhones. One more question. You say when he's going to compete with the Googles and whatnot, again, what does that mean for me, not just maybe right now, but in the long term because, you know, obviously a monopoly or anything that's strong is dangerous. It's not something you really want. So how does that affect me in the long term or even in the short term? Unless you're interested in buying a team, I'm not sure it's going to impact you as a fan because I use my iPhone every day and I'm not all that interested in when Apple became a $300 billion business annually or a $200 billion business annually. There's a price point for iPhones. I know the game they play where your battery

starts running out when they're ready for you to buy you. Yeah, that's a real thing, right? It was. There was a lawsuit. There was a lawsuit. I got eight cents for that. It's less so of a thing. It doesn't matter whether it's a thing because I have eyes wide open. So it's the same thing when you're watching CNN or Fox, you have your eyes wide open. Oh, there's going to be a bias here. So I know that Apple is doing things that I don't like. I know TikTok is doing things I don't like. but the reason I engage with it is I make that choice. And so my eyes are wide open, and that's all we can do is inform people. The NFL, all they're doing by saying they want to be Apple and Google,

they're going to need some products other than football. Apple and Google, what they did is they expanded. You talk about email. Tony, you nailed it. NFL email. It can't. NFL email has to be just the tip of the iceberg because that's a funny thing. Lock in that handle.

I'm telling you, Tony at NFL. The problem is that's actually what the employees at the NFL. I think it's taken already. Tony that works at NFL. I think he'll get it. Thank you. 10-day Tony at NFL. Ah, now we're talking.

That's got to be available. That's for sure. I'm going to look it up. There's all sorts of, do you remember all the companies that started with email? Like, does anyone have an AOL email anymore? I do. I do.

And I use it. I had an at-exPN email. That was the extreme sports version of ESPN. They were giving away free ESPN, ex-b-B-N emails, and that was like my first. You felt like a big deal when you got it, right? Yeah. Did it take?

Can you email me at plucky duck at exbn.com? I believe email, as you know, that's funny, Tony. I don't think that that is when you tend to compete with Apple and Google. That's just an ancillary thing, but what it does is it's data collection. So imagine if the NFL had all the data from all of the NFL fans who are watching, because that's really, when you look at what Google and Apple are doing, and the way their share price continues to go up and their revenue goes up, they know everything we want and everything we do.

That's the power. And so Izzy, if you want to be scared, if you're scared of that, I think it's already here, and the NFL just wants to be part of it. I just like having better access to NFL Red Zone. It's like I feel like every year it's a bitch to figure out, how do I get this, how do I get it this year? How do I get it this year? Now it's all right.

ESPN's going to tell me exactly how I can get my Red Zone. It's a Google search, sass. Yeah, I don't know, man. But he's right about that. It's like, I have Hulu bundles. So it's like, I got to add the sports package. And then I got to make sure that the channel's on. And if it's not on, I got to turn it on.

I find it confusing. But now is it going to be just on ESPN 1? Like, I'm going to turn on Sunday at, you know, 1 o'clock. And all of a sudden Scott Hans is going to be there or no. Now I'm more confused because, like, before I knew, like I have Hulu also. I just go to Hulu and I say, add the sports package. And I do that for like six months, $10, whatever it is. And then at the end, I get that bundle.

Of course I got that bundle. Like I have YouTube TV, which has ESPN. So shouldn't I just get NFL Red Zone by having YouTube TV? Do I add it with Hulu? Does ESPN now provide it? Because I have the ESPN Plus. Then once this ESPN Super Plus whatever comes out, like do I- Explain it, David. Does that get rid of my ESPN Plus bundle?

Like, am I going to have channels? Am I not going to have channels? Like someone tell me what's going on here. The season starts in like three weeks and I don't know what I need to do. Now there's wrestling involved. I don't give a shit about that. Like just tell me what I do about Red Zone. That's in 2026.

So at least I know that. But, like, what do I do, David? What do I do? What's he do? What do I do, David? I think we have to play the music, don't we? Because that's what today is. Where are we?

Honestly, I forgot it was Wednesday. Can anyone pay attention to what the day is? Because it just happened. Cheeky's birthday? Yeah, it's Cheeky's birthday. We have a dog looking about the office. Almost tripped on the dog. But today is a Wednesday.

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see dkng.com slash audio. Don Lebertard. We didn't get to your guys is against the spread. You're right, you're right, you're right, dude. I don't have it against the spread because I wasn't prepared for this segment. You need an Ian in your life. You have actively played defense against me today in a way that has rarely been this undercutting.

Stugats. Defense wins championships, baby. That's show business. This is the Don Lebetar show with a Stugat. Billy, I want you to just stay calm at all times. That should be your only goal. Because when it comes to finding your football or finding any, how do you find a channel? You go to the guide, you go to the thumbnail, and it's there.

Don't worry about your bundling. Your red zone is going to be on your Hulu. It's going to be on your YouTube. It's the extra app for when you're streaming, for when you're on the go. You'll get your digital red zone if you don't want to authenticate. through Hulu or YouTube. Okay, final question, I promise, on this subject. Does it affect me going to a bar

and being able to watch any game that I want to? The bars will have it. That's just what you've got to assume. So, the whole bar situation is a great one because they steal stuff, and it doesn't make me happen. Are you smiling? Now I don't care because now I enjoy it, but when you're in the game,

there was always the thought that they had to pay in order to show, because what we would argue is that that is a view. It's like showing a movie. You can watch a movie. I'm not going to let you do this. I regret asking this question. Don't let them ruin the fun. They've got to a bar and they got direct TV. They got all the games. Don't worry about it. Stop that. You don't need to do that. You don't need to do that. You don't need to do that.

Just saying don't worry. There aren't UFC enforcement agents walking into like, hey, B-Dubs doesn't have this partnership. What's going on over here? Don't ruin the fun, man. Oh, is it what about finding the non-licensed apparel guys next to the ballpark? Let them sell. Oh, come on. There's no way. There's no way. Got to want to earn. Thank you. Yeah. I once went to a Miami Hurricanes football game and someone in Tony's family was wearing our Cam Ward for Heisman shirts, but they were knockoffs. They weren't from our shop. Dark internet guy. They took our design.

No, different guy, different guy. Put it on white shirts. And I was like, hey man, thank you for supporting the Levitart show. He's like, oh, Tony works there. I didn't buy this from there. I made them myself. I'm like, thank you for your support. It's a long story. Did you ask that guy for the Ethernet cord? No, that's a different guy. How many guys do you have? I got a guy for everything. Dave, what do you need? I got you. And then a backup in case that guy gets pinched. Can I tell you that happened to me one time, the story that they just... You got pinched? No, no, with using the cam... So when I was Bar Mitzvud, all right? So we're talking a long time ago. Someone who a family friend is an artist, okay, comic books and whatnot. So he drew a

caricature of me for the, you know, for bar mitzahs, you used to give away shirts to all your friends at the end. You know, I was at, I, I, it was a slam dunk at Jonathan's bar mitzvah, you know, and it was a picture of me, a caricature of me, the big head, the little body, dunking a basketball. Really cool. I had a slam dunk at Jonathan's bar mitzvah, whatever it was. Several months later, I ran into a kid wearing a shirt, a bar mitzvah shirt, it was. It was a It was the same picture. It was me, me, dunk in the basketball, but it was someone else's bar mitz. I stopped the person.

I go, that's me. She looked at me like I had four eyes, okay? I go, no, no, that's me. You asked for a fiver? That's me. You don't understand. She thought I was crazy. A bootleg zaz t-shirt.

The company that printed the caricature, we never got a copyright. They kept the picture, and they distributed it for us. other barmits was. So a picture of me is on these other barmits foot shirts. How did that make you feel? Well, violated? Yeah, it felt a little bit weird. Poor? No, just a little bit. Well, well, my, my, our family friend who designed it was very angry. And he was mad at himself because he didn't copyrighted. He had a cut. He was very angry. But me, I was like, you're wearing it. That's me. That's me. Did the other kids look like you? Like, why? I don't know who the kid was. I just know the girl who was wearing the shirt. And she thought I was insane that I was saying that that's

me, but it was me. Are you all failing to realize the unbelievable power of the copyright, of the patent? It's how the world goes round. It's so easy. All you got to do, you have the thing and you just say, copyright. And as long as everybody hears it. Just like bankruptcy. Exactly. That is the greatest legal advice this show's ever given. All you have to do is look at something and yell, copyrights. Say it into a microphone or on a camera. You say the thing that you're record. Yeah. Oh, everybody knows on the record. Everyone knows. Sometimes you've got to go on the record. Everybody knows that. But if you're trying

to copyright something, you say the thing, and then you go copyright. I think you can also scream patent pending and then they know it's pending. Pending where? So I may have not finished it, but it's pending now. So you better not exactly right.

It's pending and the patent. That's what they do on Shark Tank. They're like, I got the patent. It's pending. Pending. Pending. Like, Billy, is there anything you want to, you know? Not that I'm telling you about. Then you scream copyright at it, it's yours. Copyright. I'm no dummy.

I tried to get him. I'm no dummy. Yeah, I see your tricks. I tried to get him. I forgot it's Wilder, Wednesday. Copyright. That doesn't mean just because it's his day. It doesn't mean that everything he says is his.

Copyright. No, it's actually metal arcs. Tough shit, Dave. It's mine now. You like that shirt? Copyright. Mine now. That's how it works, David.

Take it off. Hand it to me. Take off your shirt right now. You are my current shirt. Yeah, take it off. That's my shirt. I actually have that shirt. This shirt? Yeah.

Did you get it for $12 at the end of your sale like I did? I got it F-R-E-E-E from a former E-M-P-L-O-Y-E who did it behind Jeter's back. Why does that team have every color but the ones that people like? Yeah. Wait, you don't like that shirt? Bring back to Tiel. Like, you're, what Jeffrey did to that, the bastardization of this great franchise and its logo. Hey, you know what?

Let's have all the colors but teal. That was great. And then they went to red. Caliente red. Caliente red, which is, I guess, an upgrade over what they had before. Well, this is sugar canes red. But I just bring back the teal, man. The jerseys you wore when you won game six, Yankee Stadium.

That's the jersey. That's not teal. I understand, but that's the green. This is the easiest thing. This is the easiest thing, because they won two championships as a Florida Marlins. All right. They're such a transient franchise. They don't have an identifiable face outside of Mr. Marlon, Jeff Kohnen.

We'll be seeing him later. Whoa. That's right. What? Yeah. Breaking news? Let's not get crazy. What a throw.

He's an athlete after all. What a throw. But the only thing that's really, that would help bridge this gap because this is a weird franchise. It's got two things that everybody wants in the championships but it struggles to find connection points. Just bring back to

Teal. Like that's a team that a lot of people grew up watching. The team in Teal, why not tap back into that base? And also, it's certifiably their best look. Lean in. This is stupid. David, why is that?

Like Mike is saying is right. I think most of the fan base would prefer that. And I could say the same thing about the Dolphins. I would say almost the entire, I didn't do a survey, all right, but I'm guessing almost the entire fan base would love

them to go back to the old unies and the old logos. And obviously, it would sell huge, so why don't teams do that? You mean do throwbacks? No, like make it permanent again. They also change the name, so then it gets tricky because the logo's an F. Screw it. Bring the F back. I don't care. You can do what the Brewers did, which is

have an updated version of a throwback look. There's obviously a name change involved, so you don't have the F with the M, but you replicate that style and you have an M. Would you allow the facts to change your mind, or is it just a motion? Tell me the facts, because... The facts are that the new logos in 2012,

the New Jersey is just the fact. We weren't allowed to wear the orange jerseys after a while because the owner didn't like it, but the orange jerseys, the black jerseys, and the M hat were the top seller, online and the revenue that we got from the rebrand was disproportionate to anything we had gotten back at pro player. I understand how rebrands were. Of course. I mean, like it's new. Yeah, you got to make people miss the old look. But now I think enough distance has gone by. We're over 20 years away from

basically their last championship. Now's when you tap back in and you go to the popular look and you get to generate all sorts of revenue. And this one probably has more staying power. Like what you just said doesn't mean that everyone that fans liked the new uniforms better it's just it's new and you got to wear the new jersey and colors to the game you you don't have it like it just became available David do you guys get a boost from it being very similar to the maroon five logo so we we did not and so like the twins current logo looks a little like rm if you look at the twins logo which you can check out on any of your devices while you're listening or watching the show live on the Levitart YouTube channel, but I would tell you that we had it checked, not just by yelling,

copyright. We didn't like do a thing where we had a new design and you just yell copyright. Someone made it so much easier. It would have made it so much easier. It was like you wasted a lot of money going through the extra steps. Hundreds of thousands of dollars. And I am regretful. That could have been like a utility infielder if we had just come on your show back in the day

and shown the uniform and yelled copyright. right. But yes, it got cleared, but Maroon 5 was one of the logos that came up that had to be checked as similar. And then there was a differentiation because the rule is, would anyone confuse a baseball team with the singer of Maroon 5? No, no, but give me a song. I was trying to get to song and I wanted you right there. I wanted to be in sync where you would. That's another band. That's a DeVislove. Is that them? Diss love. You don't know. I didn't know if that was the name of the song. song, actually. Sorry. We almost had it. We almost had the sink. You didn't know. Come on. Everyone knows. I can name at least

12. You can't 12 maroon five songs. I think so. Without Googling. Without Googling? Go. All right. Sunday morning. This love. I have no way to check this, by the way. He's right so far. Moves like Jagger. Yep. Three. She will be loved. Yep. Four. What's the one with Siza? Slowing down at four. Harder to breathe. Is that one? Sure. Long way from 12. Yeah. Uh, it's over his ass. Telephone? Or is that, that's one? It's payphone?

Payphone. One of those is Lady Gaga. One of those is Maroon 5. Sorry. Sorry to confuse it too. All right, half a dozen. Okay. That was well done. It was not well done. He came out of the gates so strong at 12. Yeah, you were confident, but man, wheezed to the finish line there. I did not say sugar. What was the one with Siza?

Billy owns that song now. Whoa. I own sugar. in general. Oh, I see what you did there. The sugar king. You have to kind of pick. Thank you. You got to pick your spot, Zaz.

Multi-purpose copyright is what I just did there. You're trying to get the condiment, the song, the shirt, the whole package. And, you know, kisses and such sugar. You know what you said, give Daddy some sugar. Oh, that's a good move by you. That's multifaceted. Exactly right. Giving Daddy sugar is that Coke?

No, what does that mean? Give me some sugar. Here, yes. Give me some sugar. Give daddy some sugar. You've never said that when you're out at night? You're thinking burger sugar. I'm thinking that I've never said that other than when I was having to be real.

You've seen so many movies. You're thinking about that white lady? You've never heard like an old-timey movie with like a mom like, give me some sugar. Come here. Give me some sugar. You've never heard that saying? To this day. Think about that, yeah, yo.

Today at 24 minutes after an hour is the first time I've heard that expression, give me some sugar. I've heard a song pour some sugar on meat. I should have just let you say that. I can name at least three of their songs. That three is not worthy of stopping the show over. Well, definitely two. Don Lebertard. You were that kind of sad this morning, taking the barrage of anger from Stugats

because you hadn't booked him enough interviews. The only reason I keep bringing this up is because you not are throwing a big party on Thursday. You're doing it, and I want people to support what you're doing because Stugats has not. made this easy. Stugats. Um, well, you know, I, I, well, yeah, you know. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. Can you name the drummer?

One-arm guy. How depressing is that, that that's how people know him. Oh, no one would know him at all. Yes, one arm? Yeah. He's a drummer with one arm. That was their copyright. He got into an accident, and he kept drumming with a new drum kit.

If we can show, I don't know if we can show a drum set. A drum set or a drum kit. That's a kit. He's right. It's a kit. Copyright it. I'm on it. And he plays the drums with his feet as though there is hands, and then I think his hand like it's the foot. And his hands play as the feet. And it's amazing. Well, he only has one hand because he has one arm.

If you listen to their music, it definitely sounds like the drummer has one arm. I'm not, that's not an insult. No, there's, there's, no, it's, yes, way. You can tell the difference between a one-arm drummer and a two-arm drummer? No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying once you enter, knowing that the drummer has one arm, the sound makes a lot of sense coming from the drums, you know, both are acceptable.

It ain't exactly slip-knot drums. If you're watching this on YouTube, you're seeing a picture of a one-arm drummer, and he kept going. Rick Allen. That's his name, Rick Allen. It's like the guys in the traveling Wilburys, this was a funny thing from my life. That's a band. Do you not know the name?

This is a critical part of the moment. Is it Rick Allen? It might be one-arm drummer. It's one-arm drummer. I think Mike's right. Can you name the members of the traveling Wilburys? I have no idea who that is. I can do that.

Jeff Lynn, a little guy named Bob Dylan, Tom Petty. and Roy Orbison, who definitely dyed his hair. Am I missing one? Oh, George Harrison. So the guy with one arms from Def Leopard, I thought the Maroon 5 drummer had one arm. He has two. I'm pretty sure every other drummer

of every other band you've ever heard of at any music festival has two arms. I believe Mr. Allen is the only one-arm drummer around. Wait, did I get all the blueberries? You did. And so the point of that is most people don't get the first name you gave.

99% of people, when asked that question, can name the entire band except for the guy from ELO. Feels like a made-up stat. It's absolutely, absolutely made-up. Is that why later on they marketed themselves as Jeff Lynn's ELO? Because people didn't know his name. Do you know what ELO stands for? Electric Light Orchestra.

That's right. Look at us. Playing the worst game of trivia ever imagined. I found a guy named Alvin Law, who's a drummer with no arms. Get out of town. drums with his feet also no hair trademark can you tell the difference between a no-arm drummer and a one-arm drummer no I'm saying if you give me that bit of information on the front end and then I listen to the music I could probably sit and listen and be like that makes sense we got to get that guy on Rick Allen no one drones with no arms in law yeah that guy I'd rather get the guy from Def Leppard well because it's a success story well you have your own show yeah I disagree I don't have my own bookers though no we're we're talking to no arm guy. Can Billy get that done?

Alvin Law? Right now. Jeff Leppard. All right. Well, listen. Let's not get crazy. Where is Saskatchewan? What time zone is that? See, I told you. You know how much easier it would be to know what time it is in Saskatchewan if everyone was on East Town, Easton's time zone?

Which, of course, everybody knows is the Lord's Time Zone. Wouldn't have to worry about what time it is over there. It'd be 928 in the Lord's Time Zone in Saskatchewan. Are you trying to have one time zone across the universe? I mean, I'm putting forth a major effort. Yes. You know, easy would be for meetings and just everything. Like, hey, what time?

I don't have to worry about time difference. Yeah, see at 1 p.m. Okay, good. I've got you. Do you know that in Antarctica where I was lucky enough to run a marathon, you get to choose your time zone? Oh, well, I mean, you should. Because if you think about how time zones are,

they go around the globe and they all meet at the bottom. Which should you choose? And so, well, you're on a Russian base there on the Russian time zone. you're on the U.S. space there in the U.S. Times zone and they're right next to each other. So it's totally different times. Meetings have to be a nightmare there, Zaz.

It's insane. Just choose your own time zone. Imagine that. That would be a wild billy every day if there were mayhem within times on. Imagine if you didn't have a setting on your Apple device that changed your NFL device soon. It could be. The change is when you land. It's a shape of a football instead of like a regular iPhone.

It's like an old, ballblown shape. Go long. Our guy John Skipper invented and was part of the ESPN phone. I remember. They tried that. How did that do? Terribly. Yeah, but NFL's got more juice, though.

You get an NFL phone all of a sudden. That changes things. There are phones that are licensed products that are NFL balls. Juju has one. If you lift up, it's a phone. But it's not a cellular phone. It's corded. Not yet.

With an Ethernet cord. Do you think the NFL makes more investments? They have an entire investment committee. Right, but they've gone away with not having to pay for their minor league for a very long time. And that sport, college football, seems like in the next 10 years, it's headed towards private equity and a mass reshaping. At that point, does the NFL take the opportunity to be like, okay, we'll finally invest in this property, and we'll make our portfolio a little bit more diversified, and we have more attractive media rights that we can make more money off of. But that's not diversified.

I wish that we didn't have to own minor league teams in baseball. I'd love to have someone else pay for the development of the players. So the NFL, to me, why would they take a position? Now, do they have private equity companies that will have positions in NFL teams and will have positions in college sports programs? 100%. But those are multi, multi-billion dollar funds. How would that work?

Wouldn't the NFL then need to, like, tie certain college teams to NFL teams? and then you're actually drafting people out of high school into the NFL, I mean, into the NCAA and then the NFL. Like that seems like just an extra step that was way too hard to figure out. That's the minor leagues in baseball. I think they can be silent partners. They just fund the operation and they let the administrators run those programs. Because that happens so often is when you get funded by someone,

they just take a step back and don't get involved at all. They're thrilled just to be there. I don't think that the silent NFL would not be, as with the SPN. I don't think they're a silent investor. I really don't. I view it as they are. But not so silent, throat clearing.

He's not sick, guys. He's not sick. What is the purpose of the button? No, you did it right. It's just we heard it. Like, just acknowledging. But it's the audience who doesn't. No, I think they do, though.

If I hear it in my headphones, David. It was pretty loud. That's what the audience hears. Yeah. Because you got to remember, My mic is still on. What's the purpose of the off of a mute button? For you to, if you do it quieter than you did, it would probably not get picked up.

Right. It probably gets picked up by my mic because David, that was loud. And generally you do it when the Zaz is talking and the mics and the cameras on him, then you can kind of get it. If you're mid-sentence and all of a sudden, like, turn your mic on, is he? And if all of a sudden, if I'm talking and mid-sentence, I'm like, you still pick it up on another mic in the room. See? That was a good example. I will try to do better. No, you're great. You're doing great.

I just find it to be unreasonable that the mute button doesn't mute. No, it does mute, but my mic is on. Metalarchy. No, it does mute, but my mic is three feet from yours. My mic's picking you up. If anything, the equipment's too good that it's picking you up when you're making noise. Yeah, we got the best. You get Betelarks equipment credit, actually.

Sometimes things can be so good, they're bad. Yeah. Well, maybe that's one of them. I don't think that NFL will spend $1 $1.00. I will be very much looking forward to the point when NFL does diversify. They take their equity position in ESPN. That gets

spun off. Then you know exactly what ASPN is worth because they'll have a number of shares in that entity. They will take more money that they continue to make from broadcasting when they open up the deals, Izzy, and renegotiate every deal in three years' time where

they could take away games from ESPN or give ESPN below market games because they own part of ESPN. Wait for that to happen. Then they go take cash and do what MLB does where you make a bunch of investments. You have a whole committee where all they're doing is investing in things that have nothing to do with football or baseball. Do you think this affects the potential new negotiations with Major League Baseball on ESPN? That is something that you should think about. You know why? Because what is the DTC for 2999. Are you in your pocket during the summer? What do you got? No football games. Why are you going in your pocket for that 2999? Wrestling? Paper views? Wrestling? That's something. They got if they got to find

content. So baseball. Highlight. Probably still part of the plan, right? Very cricket. Manu's still a cyclone. Yeah. We had to break that news. What happened? Manu, we kept him. Again? He's a face of the franchise. You guys. He's Mr. Cyclone. Pelota. You guys don't know Polota. You finished in last like the last four. He's not the problem. You're the problem. What's his salary? Nothing.

You know, they don't deal with that. That sounds like a problem for the owners. I'm sorry, I got it wrong. I thought that you were involved in that way as well. We don't go public with that information. You're not willing to disclose what your highest paid player is? No, no, no, we don't need to do that. They're all paid the same.

They're all paid the same. Nice. I'd like Pablo Tori to find out exactly what you're paying your guys. So you mentioned the point about Pablo and how that's entertainment and journalism, which is very true. ESPN didn't do that kind of thing, but it did make me daydream about Bob Lee showing up to the Airbnb and showing up on the ring camera for dramatic effect. That would have been better than Pablo doing it, right? It would have been way better. It's even better that you paid for that Airbnb.

Wait a second. That's the part. And Bobley. How would have been smacked. And the ring cam? Don't you kid yourself. I think the ring cam comes with the Airbnb. No, he bought a phone.

They set up the ring cam in order so they could get footage of it. They put up their own ring cam. B-Y-O-R-C? Yeah, that's paid for, you own that. Was it rented with an option to buy? Fentz gets a notification every time someone rings. At the new, at the Airbnb. Seaside Town in Maine.

It's a party house, actually. I read an article where Airbnbs have cameras, and I stayed in Airbnb in Cooperstown, and I did a full sweep. I was going to ask if you have one of those things that they sell that, like, detects cameras. You have one of those? I did the sweep for both stuff, like a blue light stuff and for cameras. You take a blue light with you to hotels? Just for my, just for my area.

Oh, boy. What did you come up with? I come up with a change of sheets very often and no comforters. And by the way, don't use the couch. I'm just saying, and the remote, oh my God. I shan't use the remote. People jizzed on the remote? Oh, my God.

Every day. I think they jizz on their hand and then touch their own. That's it. Copyright.