The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Greg Cote's Jimmy Butler Take

Episode Date: January 28, 2025

Billy has a bone to pick with reporters because nobody can tell him when the Miami Dolphins are playing in Madrid next season and he can't book his flights for cheap. Seriously, what happened to repor...ters? Also, does Joe Zagacki hate us? If he didn't already, he certainly will after this segment. Greg Cote has a problem with destination weddings and that leads us into his scoring hot take that Jimmy Butler has quit on the Miami Heat. We dive into his recent column about Jimmy and the drama that continues to unfold inside the organization. Plus, enough with London, Roy tried to go to Finland and Jerry Jones basically called his new head coach an idiot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:31 I root for Buffalo, so late postseason pain is all I know. It's just how it goes, Alan's great but he can't beat my homes. It's a hard thing to stomach that the team just can't seem to get over that hump of Patrick Mahomes. Here in the AFC, the Chiefs continue crushing all our dreams. Bleep you Andy Reid, bleep Travis Kelsey and bleep Mahomes. Buffalo did not deserve to win. We can't beat Mahomes, can't beat my homes.
Starting point is 00:02:06 They didn't deserve it because they weren't the better team. Can't beat my homes, can't beat my... Their shadows constantly lurking above me. One shallow cross and suddenly they're scoring. Another Super Bowl with them feels boring. Please jail and beat my homes. Buffalo is Kansas City without the trophies yet. It's not fun.
Starting point is 00:02:42 What's happening nationally with Kansas City is super interesting because they're going to be so excellent that they beat the bleep you out of you, where you're so frustrated that they always get to win, that that is some of the best and most hissing defiant kind of winning, when you can tell everybody, you guys didn't want us to win and we won anyway. But I have, for many years now, secretly, I'm gonna reveal a secret, Tuesday's my favorite day of the week, correct? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Wow, wow, amazing. I know it doesn't seem like it because I'm perpetually annoyed and Cody and Stugats are maximum rodeo clowning, but the problem I have today is, I've got Greg Cody fired up about a topic, and still got to maximum rodeo clowning but the problem i have today is i've got greg cody fired up about a topic nobody else wants to hear another word about however he's
Starting point is 00:03:33 the local columnist who is now descended into willing to call the athlete names angry enough to call the athlete names so i've got that in our holster but i also have Stugats in the garage trying to fix a spare tire yesterday. Yeah. And I have Billy Gill has a bone to pick. And I've got Jerry Jones and an assortment of clown sound. Wow.
Starting point is 00:04:01 So I- Big day, you've got a lot. So, but Billy with a bone to pick. I snuck that in there. What is I gotta go there first. Correct. You don't have to. It's your show. Whenever Billy has a bone to pick. That's where you start. I gotta tell you I have bones to pick just about every day with someone or something. So I'm constantly picking bones. They call me the bone picker. Wow. Is there meat on those bones? Well not after I'm done with them. Okay. All right, let's go.
Starting point is 00:04:25 I wanna hear it. Well, I mean, you're part of this. Oh no. Potentially. Oh boy. Reporters, what happened to them? You know what I mean? Like we're not getting reports anymore. We're just kind of getting things that are put out there.
Starting point is 00:04:37 I heard like two weeks ago, there's a Dolphins game in Spain. And you know what would be great? The date of that game so people can plan to go in advance so that people can book their flights when they're cheap, not two weeks beforehand. No one's following up on this, trying to figure out what the date of said game is.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Chris Cody came out here and he reported that he thought it was gonna be the Bengals. So someone told him something, presumably, or he decided, you know what, I'm gonna take a one in eight guess and maybe I'm right. However he did it, he put himself out there. I stand by that report. He will either be ridiculed or he will be praised
Starting point is 00:05:10 or forgotten probably also. And by the way, I circled back, because people after that were like, when's the date? Yeah, when is the date? And I went back to the sources, they don't know yet. Well no, someone has to know, that's the thing. Well dig deeper, everybody knows. Someone knows, but Chris is not a reporter.
Starting point is 00:05:26 So Chris giving up when someone says I don't know, that's fine. He's not a reporter. Now the Greggs of the world, this is what you should be chasing. You should be going out there trying to find this date. Do you not want to go to Spain to see the Dolphins play a historic game in Madrid? No. You don't? Hell no, I've been to Spain. Why don't you wanna go to, hell no. First of all. Spain is overrated. Wait, Chris, Chris, you're. Everything's in a different language. Chris, your father. Speak English, Spain.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Your father has become so formed, he doesn't wanna go anywhere foreign cause he's happy in plantation. Yeah. A cruise ship plantation, don't put me on a 12 hour flight that doesn't have a dozen beers on it so that I can get to another country. Everything he needs is right in plantation. He lives in the city plantation for people
Starting point is 00:06:14 that are on the way. Let's clarify. I travel. I'm a traveling man. Good job. A traveling man. I've been to Spain. I've been to Europe. I want to go there to have fun. I don't want to go there to work. I don't I want to go there to have fun. I don't want to go there to work I don't want to go to a dolphin home game that I have to travel four thousand so 400 miles to see It is a fart. He'd rather go to Miami Gardens. No, not necessarily, but at least that's within my range The NFL has gone crazy with these international games and the fans are hurting for it the fans are hurting for it. The fans are suffering
Starting point is 00:06:46 because of Goodell's obsession with internationalizing the NFL. Growing the game. Well, how about grow the game in the United States? My man. How much more growth is there to do here? Exactly. What? I mean, what do we put it in? The Netherlands has a franchise next year? What's going on? But no one agreed with you and you said exactly.
Starting point is 00:07:07 I mean. You know, it's a gag. It's a gaggy. You're not even getting your signature lines right? It's a gaggy old thing. All right, you know what? Hold on. He's fired up.
Starting point is 00:07:17 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's too early. No, no, we're picking bones. Look at this. It has a finger on the button. He deserves to leave. You guys, all right, look, I'm not gonna kick him out, but he's got to get his signature lines right the first 10 minutes of the show It can't nail that one it can't be it later in the show
Starting point is 00:07:36 We will forgive that it's a stamina thing and he's running a gas But we can't be 10 minutes into the show any lazily throws out as a good day it's not a big it's got to be a full force full tuesday zagat it's not a lot of it yet is it that's a lot of the president asked a lot of it i'll tell you what's happened here and it happened all of us yesterday sunday takes a lot out of us yet it takes a lot out of us for the whole week
Starting point is 00:08:04 late night and so we're going to get a greg c us. It takes a lot out of us for the whole week. Late night. And so we're gonna get a Greg Cody who might be a little fatigued today, a little beat up. Yeah, he already is. He's fatigued. This kind of thing. I mean, that kind of thing. You're messing with us now.
Starting point is 00:08:17 No, what do you mean? So Jessica, can you walk me through among these things which you're most interested in? Because we've got Jerry Jones, after he tried to sneak a head coach past us on Friday, Jerry Jones is out here talking, and it's just great to see an 80-year-old man just drunk on power,
Starting point is 00:08:38 basically running the most valuable franchise in sports, and just hiring administrative assistant to be his coach, because because he can because he's gonna run it to the grave You've got that you've got a video of Stu gots trying to fix a flat tire in the parking lot You've got I'm assuming yet more bone to pick with Billy Gill and Greg Cody really wants to call Jimmy Butler names Also the Steelers are apparently playing the Packers in Ireland next year, but they haven't announced that either, Billy. I'm just being told that.
Starting point is 00:09:12 We're just never gonna know when these games are. How are we supposed to plan? Right? How are we to plan, Dan? When am I gonna book my flight? Exactly right. I'm getting these notifications saying there's flights to Spain on sale until the 28th. That's today. I need to have a decision by today or I'm just guessing. I can't just guess when this game is
Starting point is 00:09:29 going to be. I mean I could take an educated guess. It's not going to be the first week of the season. You should just go to Spain for the full three months of the season and that way you're there when the game happens. This is how, this is how, if you want to know how we're doing this, this is the way that this works. As I've stated in the past, I have no interest in going to Europe. I've been there, done that, as Greg said. To Spain, in fact. I went to Spain. But I went to Valencia in Spain.
Starting point is 00:09:51 And it was way too long. I was there for like 10 days. For a family wedding. I got it. You're a little town. You're by the Mediterranean. It was fine, we saw the church, we saw this, we saw that.
Starting point is 00:10:03 We saw lots of things, but 10 days in one place was fine. But when you go to these destination weddings, there's so many activities that you need to be part of. I wanted to take a train up to Barcelona, it wasn't that far away. They're like, no, we need to go eat with the in-laws. And I'm like, I don't need to go eat with the in-laws. I can go to Barcelona and see the architecture,
Starting point is 00:10:21 see the world. I'm here, when am I gonna come again unless the dolphins come to play? And now I have the opportunity, and this is the way that see the world. I'm here, when am I gonna come again unless the Dolphins come to play, you know? And now I have the opportunity and this is the way that you do it. You say, wife, that's what I call my wife, you say, wife, listen, Dolphins, they're going to Spain. Wouldn't it be great to go to Spain
Starting point is 00:10:39 and we can see your family there, make a week out of it. We'll see your family. But also we're not going to Valencia again. We've been there, done that with Valencia. They're gonna have to come to us to Madrid. Meet us halfway, not even halfway. But meet us halfway. So what you do is you position it as a family trip
Starting point is 00:10:54 when you're really going there to see a football game. You know what I mean? But I need to know when the football game is because since the last time I was there, my family has grown exponentially. And sure, I'm to blame for that. But it has grown exponentially. So now things to blame for that but it has grown exponentially so now things are pretty much double what they were before because there's four of us instead
Starting point is 00:11:09 of two of us so I need to get the deals while the deals are there to get got but I need the reporters to do their jobs and tell me when this GD game is so that I can get these deals at a good price. I want to book these flights today before I have to pay tomorrow's price tomorrow. Someone do some reporting. Devin Ferronis, get out there. Tell me what day this game is. Someone, anyone.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Do you like destination weddings, Billy? I like the idea of them. The thing that is- Not attending them. They're ridiculous, those things. Destination weddings? Yeah, don't get me started on that. Ugh. You're insulting all of the people you're inviting
Starting point is 00:11:49 by asking them to rearrange their entire schedule to spend big money. I have an unnamed nephew who once got married on a cruise ship. Really? So all of a sudden I gotta buy an international cruise to attend my nephew's wedding? Eh, not necessarily. It's not gonna happen. The destination wedding just isn't flying anymore. I don't know why the groom and bride get together and decide that's a good idea.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Do you guys being offended by a cruise wedding with all the cruises you guys go on is hilarious? No, Chris, if you're gonna have a destination wedding, you better pay for me to get to that destination. So I pay for all 100 guests, that's it. Thank you. Otherwise, don't have it. Guys, just don't go.
Starting point is 00:12:31 It's a trick, right? People that have a destination wedding are people that don't want to tell you, they don't want you to go to their wedding. So they make it as inconvenient for you as possible so that you don't actually attend their wedding. Right, and then they don't have to actually do the elopement thing where they actually
Starting point is 00:12:45 piss off all the aunts and uncles. Well, no, and then, I mean, if we're gonna be really honest about destination weddings, the way that they do it is they say, yeah, you know, we're booking it through this person, and then the more people that actually come, the more stuff they get for free, so they don't actually have to pay for their vacation
Starting point is 00:12:58 to wherever it is, whether it's Mexico or the Dominican Republic, whatever, they get a whole package. So really, not only are you going, you're paying for their wedding, and you're paying for their room, and you're paying for their vacation, and for their excursions, and for all of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:13:13 It's really a trick. And Greg, to your point, the cruise, if I'm going on a cruise, don't interrupt my cruise with a wedding, okay? Like, no thank you. And if I have to go to a destination, make it a destination I wanna go to. Not one that you wanna go to.
Starting point is 00:13:27 I think if you're gonna have a destination wedding and you invite all these people to go, there should be a committee where you vote on where the destination is. Because again, we're paying for your entire wedding and we're paying for your trip and your room and your flights and everything because of us going. We should decide where you have to get married.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Now you're gonna inconvenience us, at least do it on our terms. Now I've got the bride sitting and hoping where is my wedding going to be? Where is everyone going to vote? It's a great idea to make the bride and groom have the community vote on where would you like our love to be celebrated. Is it multiple choice or can it be anywhere? Can they pick like Boise or something random?
Starting point is 00:14:03 Parkland. Well you're allowing the group, the community, to make a joke in that case. I don't want people in my house, though. It'll never be me. Your neighbor's backyard. Let's examine this for a second, because I hate that we're becoming this show, okay?
Starting point is 00:14:18 Greg Cody is sitting here arguing, I don't wanna go to an nfl game in spain but i would imagine if metal art paid for any employee here to go to spain for that dolphin game that would be a prize possession in this workplace because not everyone is so jaded and cynical after a lifetime making money off of sports right that they say i don't want to go all the way to spain to see the Dolphins play an NFL game. I don't want to be that show, man.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Inside the NBA is complaining a lot about today's basketball. We're now the show that doesn't want to go to a foreign land to watch the Dolphins play because Cody's tired and just wants to drive to Miami Springs. Speak for yourself, I went to Ireland and here I go to watch football.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Ireland. Some of us are not that show I was in Germany I went to Detroit company paid for Germany I love Spain don't get me wrong but Barcelona is one of the loveliest cities on earth I love Barcelona Madrid not so much folks in Madrid that's not all that friendly yeah I'm a dread going, but I think that the NFL just expands too much internationally I'm again it and Again again with this and and I don't think that that it's right to ask home fans to travel
Starting point is 00:15:36 4,400 miles on their dime to cheer for the home team, you know, luckily they have a choice They don't have to go where there's a thousand home games a year. In the NFL there's eight or nine home games a year and all of a sudden you're taking 12% of someone's home schedule and giving it to Spain? Come on. Did you go on the cruise wedding by the way? I did not. We made up some lame excuse. What was your excuse? Well, I don't want to pay, you know, $4,000 to go to my nephew's wedding, quite frankly.
Starting point is 00:16:07 So you told the truth. It's just a wedding. It's just a wedding. Heaven and church. Just cut the check and save your money, right? And parenthetically, the marriage failed. I was going to ask about that. I was going to ask.
Starting point is 00:16:21 You've got to let that sit, Billy. You've got to let that sit. Parenthetically. Right. Through no fault of my nephews, quite frankly. I mean, I don't want to get into details. Wow. It's always a women's fault. Well, in this case, you know, it's, come on now. How long did it last? She shall remain nameless. I don't know, a couple of years.
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Starting point is 00:20:36 I'm proud to have it next to me representing discipline in the face of spoiled brattiness. Greg Cody is, he's descended into the stage. I haven't seen it in a long time. I really haven't. Local columnist, a man of dignity who has written a number of columns over the years and doesn't usually excoriate anyone. I remember at the end, look this used to mean something when billy talks about reporters and stuff it used to mean something when the local columnist was somebody of a certain grace who in our community at least uh... you know when it when he ripped somebody it meant something it was it wasn't just you know
Starting point is 00:21:20 gasp bags on the radio like like us or even kids in the newspaper like me when i read somebody it meant less then when edwin pope was doing it greg cody is now edwin pope in our market and i don't know that i've ever seen him as angry at an athlete as he presently is it jimmy butler he's descended in the group kind of name calling that i did when saban left miami to go to alabama and i was wandering everywhere calling him a carpet salesman like because because he sold everybody a bunch of things about how we wanted to
Starting point is 00:21:51 be here and i won't write one ground calling in names for for an entire year the old bill of goods are i mean that there is the easiest thing yet but now now greg cody has arrived at quitter. Yeah. He's quit on everybody. He's quit on his team, on his teammates, on the fans, on the city of Miami, on the integrity of the NBA. I think his actions during all this, and I wrote this column before he was suspended yesterday for a third time this month. He's simply acting unprofessionally. He's acting childishly.
Starting point is 00:22:28 I think what he's done lapses on the betrayal level somewhere near traitorous in his actions. I just think he's been—I cheer the heat for suspending him without pay indefinitely, because he deserves it. In all my time covering this market, I haven't seen or certainly don't recall another instance of an athlete, let alone a star athlete, behaving like this and just ruining... He's ruined his legacy, okay? He was the popular player who would have been a tier below Dwyane Wade in terms of being beloved in this market. That's blown up by his own actions. It wasn't a great ending with Shaq I know this I'm not saying this is that Shaq was worse than this Shaq won a title though, right?
Starting point is 00:23:15 But it was it was bad at the end. It was bad And look it Dwayne Wade didn't go out on the right terms and went to two other cities before he came back I'm not saying everything is a happy ending, but Jimmy Butler has just taken a stick of dynamite to his own legacy down here. If I may here, because I haven't done any reporting on what happened yesterday, I've read the reports, I don't know how much reporting you have done, Greg. I do believe that at this point, I'm led to assume, that the heat will suspend him if he hiccups wrong.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Like that the rules have all changed now to whatever it is we need to do to suspend him. He's now practicing with a bunch of guys who don't want to be practicing with him. If you believe in the cultish aspects of, look man, these people are very much, it's us against everybody. You're either in here you're not because of what we're throwing up every day from the workouts like we're all in here on the same thing to to win you're now uh... embarrassing in public
Starting point is 00:24:18 a guy who's had godfather power in this sport earned for fifty years i cannot imagine how cruel and petty he is doing this as he's got the strength of everybody behind him, Stu Gatt, because it's the easiest thing in the world right now to lean back on Jimmy Butler. The entire machine does. Nobody's going to support what he's doing now. That's not going to be supported even by the crassest of businessmen,
Starting point is 00:24:45 but it is the model for how you get your way in this sport. They benefited off of it 15 years ago and they suffer from it now. Like this is what happens when the player gets the power. For the audio audience, Dan is saying all this while pointing to a cardboard cutout of Pat Riley. I mean- Kinda like he was a weatherman.
Starting point is 00:25:04 It's a statue. It's our statue. We said this was a statue. It's not a cardboard cutout of Pat Riley. I mean. Kind of like he was a weatherman. It's a statue. It's our statue. We said this was a statue. It's not a cardboard cutout. It was on the roof of the Elser Hotel because this show now stands in solidarity with Pat Riley. But this particular name calling, can you guys help me?
Starting point is 00:25:17 Because I know everybody's tired of this. And look, it's just, it's the gossipy, lame news of the moment in sports if you don't want to talk about Jerry Jones.ones another suspension for five hundred team that i swine last night against orlando in a regular season matt that only matters for these things like because boston's losing against you so i will make that a nice story but everyone
Starting point is 00:25:37 knows come playoff time boston is going to be the team to beat if they're healthy even if they go through twenty games they're weird and lose at home to houston the lady the cats and uh... you know maybe and maybe the next the next look right last night as well this is this he does a bit of a nowhere team right now and this kind of stuff is stuff that sports fans love to eat up i ask you to imagine what do you imagine
Starting point is 00:26:02 that workplaces like for him right now? The mess he made when I explained to you that this is a cult of people who are going to now line up against you. You're either with us or you're against us. So now the whole machine works against Jimmy Butler. It's not just Pat Riley. It's not just statement after statement. Here's the suspension. Here's another 500 grand. The media is going to also do what Greg Cody is going to do because the city is going to also do what greg kody's gonna do because the city's going to applaud greg kody saying it i don't think jimmy i don't think he really cares if everyone's against them in fact i think jimmy's got a comfortable when everyone is going against jimmy butler so i don't
Starting point is 00:26:37 know how it's gonna impact him i do wonder how have been not being there impacts the team is that a better environment it seems you know from reports that I have read and heard from, it seems like the players do like it more when Jimmy's not around. So, they won last night. That was a
Starting point is 00:26:52 great win. They came back. They got the W. I may or may not have had the heat. Minus one. Do you think Jimmy's losing this exchange? Because like, Jimmy's winning this exchange. Jimmy's getting exactly what he wanted. They said a month ago, there's
Starting point is 00:27:04 no circumstance in which we will trade Jimmy Butler and if they don't trade Jimmy Butler they're just gonna have to deal with a year's worth of suspensions every five minutes whenever he comes back from his previous suspension like they're gonna get rid of him eventually and he'll go to a new team that hopefully will get him the contract that he wants that they weren't gonna give him at this time which is why he kind of started this stink to begin with. He's not losing, he's getting exactly what he wanted.
Starting point is 00:27:28 And by the way, if this wasn't happening here in Miami, we'd all think this was hilarious. Like we'd all think this is exactly, you'd be talking about how the player has taken the power away from management and how he's doing his own thing. But it is hilarious, it is hilarious. I know, but like we're viewing this from a Miami prism
Starting point is 00:27:44 where we're like, this is no way to behave and this is exactly how the Heat got everyone they've got it as of late. That's correct. This is just the most extreme example so far. It's amazing. It's kind of crazy that he's getting what he wants while behaving terribly and supposedly he's getting punished
Starting point is 00:27:59 but he's really just getting what he wants. Like, you think he wants to go back and play these games? No, he wants to go to paddle ball, pickle ball tournaments, get screamed at by fans, get to fight with people. On that one, I might stop you just because I do think he wanted the public spectacle of getting his money by showing up and then not starting, and I do believe it bothered him that he was not starting.
Starting point is 00:28:19 And so I believe the reports that he walked out of practice early. I would stay until the end of practice if I were him every day, because I would assume they are looking for ways to find that Jimmy Butler to take. You basically have an organization that I'm assuming is when he shows up to work for these next week of days, if indeed it's not going to be, okay, we'll keep you after the trade deadline. We've got 10 more teams available to bid on you in the offseason and then we'll work this to see if you'll ruin the second half of
Starting point is 00:28:50 the season and and we'll see if you opt in as your threat like if that's where all of this is going to go if they actually don't trade him because i don't know if anyone in our audience thinks that there's a possibility but i would say there's a more than zero percent chance that they don't trade him. I don't think it's a zero percent chance that they trade him before the trade deadline. They might make his life miserable right up until the offseason. You want to keep coming to work this way? But if they don't trade him, it's just them being, it's just ego, right?
Starting point is 00:29:18 It's just them thinking we need to win every single trade that we're part of, so we're not going to get rid of Jimmy unless we get better, which is not how these exchanges happen with disgruntled superstars. He's costing himself money, like he's losing there. His hope is that he makes all of that money back on signing a deal that he's not gonna get. But this is not a relationship that is going to be fixed at any point in time.
Starting point is 00:29:40 And he walked out because his option is stay here and now we're gonna embarrass you by not starting You'd be stunned if if they kept him past the trade deadline and said we'll try to do it this way with where he's gonna Be the where's gonna be rookie of the year I'll try and do it with big front lines if they do it I believe that it's just because of ego and it's to try to prove a point that the players don't have the control here It's and it's not for the betterment of the team Well, it would be because they're not getting the type of trade that they want.
Starting point is 00:30:05 They don't want to take on money that goes beyond next season. And so they have made it pretty clear from the beginning that they're willing to take expiring contracts, guys that aren't even necessarily that productive, but they'd prefer guys that can play a role on the team. They'd prefer to get draft capital and they want to free up that space. That's why they handled it the way they did going into this season, which was if the worst case scenario is that Jimmy decides he wants to leave after this year, fine, we'll take the cap space. But the way that this has gone for Jimmy to say that he's sort of winning on this one,
Starting point is 00:30:36 look, the guy tried to force his way out, he has yet to be traded, he's torched his reputation with a segment of the Heat fan base, not everybody, and there are plenty of fans that understandably are on his side, but he also is not getting traded where he wants to go. Phoenix is in a total stalemate right now because Bradley Beal won't accept a trade to Chicago. They seemingly cannot move his albatross of a contract, and so Jimmy is gonna end up more likely than not,
Starting point is 00:31:03 it doesn't mean he won't get traded to Phoenix, but there is a chance he still just gets traded somewhere else that also wants him as a rental and doesn't want to extend him and he's in the exact same spot after torching his reputation with a segment of a fan base that loved him. And losing millions along the way. Jimmy Butler does not lose any sleep at night over
Starting point is 00:31:21 whether or not a segment of the Heat fandom doesn't respect him. No, that's exactly, and you're right. Not a second. Not a second. What about other GMs? But he has lost millions of dollars. What about other GMs? Like this isn't, like what GM out there is like,
Starting point is 00:31:32 you know who I really want on my team? You know what's gonna bring us all together? A GM who needs him. Well, the Heat were stupid for bringing him in because he's done this everywhere he's been. This is surprising to absolutely no one. Everyone knew this was going to happen, except we believe that Heat Culture Fairy Dust
Starting point is 00:31:48 was gonna fix this problem, and no, the Godfather's gonna change Jimmy Butler. Except guess what? His contract is up, and he's behaving the way he always behaves at this time in his career. This is not a surprise to anyone. That's why I'm, how could they be surprised by this? I don't understand how you guys are like,
Starting point is 00:32:08 we couldn't have seen this coming. How? How didn't any of you see this coming? There is no winner because everyone looks bad in this situation. That's right. Except Kevin Love. It's just a bunch of losers. Kevin Love. No, you're right about that. Having fun on the internet with it.
Starting point is 00:32:21 I would too, honestly. You know some of them are texting Jimmy like, Jimmy, Jimmy, you should do this. Like all the other disgruntles that aren't in the position to be disgruntled are like, you know. I would too, honestly. You know some of them are texting Jimmy, like Jimmy, Jimmy, you should do this. Like all the other disgruntles that aren't in the position to be disgruntled are like, you know what I would do if I was you. And then they go and just poke and prod. This is the guy in the class that you know
Starting point is 00:32:34 is gonna misbehave and do the bad things that you don't actually wanna do because you don't wanna get in trouble. So you just give them all of the bad ideas. Like this is what you should do. And he's like, you know what? I gotta do this. Well what do you do though? Tell Jimmy, he'll do? I got another thing to do. Now let's do this.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Well, what do you do though? I think you are right. This is all hilarious. And what do you do when you're met with Greg Cody's stinging criticism of Jimmy Butler? And only Jimmy Butler, by the way. Because Greg's not criticizing the Heat. No, I don't blame the Heat for not wanting
Starting point is 00:33:03 to extend a lavish max contract on a 35 year old guy. I think that's a smart business decision by the Heat. And you understand Jimmy wanting to get his money. Yeah, but if he's not getting it here, how about show some class, be a professional, play hard for the last part of this season. Play it out. And you know, if you get traded, fine.
Starting point is 00:33:25 And if you don't, become a free agent and do your thing. Forgive me for taking this long to get to the Jerry Jones sound. I will ask that the audience and Jessica and Jeremy and everyone, please tell me. Tell me. Give me a sound. Give me something that alerts me to when we've talked Jimmy Butler 12 minutes too long. You shouldn't have included me in that conversation.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Billy was cooking, I feel like we could keep going. Because I can't freaking book these flights to Spain and I have to take it out on someone. Yes. Greg's not doing his job. Jessica, but this is the thing, right? The thing that's happening with Billy, yes, Billy was cooking and I would be happy
Starting point is 00:34:05 to listen to this viewpoint by Billy because Billy speaks for both the audience and people who are so very tired of all of the heat talk that has infected this show for the last 15 years. For the last 15 years. So you're voicing something that was actually fresh. It wasn't this musty plume of cobweb smoke that comes out of the old columnist's face
Starting point is 00:34:26 when he criticizes the athlete for misbehaving. You gave us some new stuff. You said everyone's a fool. You're all idiots, and we'd be laughing at this if we were still a funny show. I just wanna maybe go to Spain. It's also a long flight. Very long.
Starting point is 00:34:41 And all we have to change the subject is Pat Riley looks bad in this time. You know, international games are always weeks four through 10. There's your hint. Yeah, but that's a six week window to fill. And I need to guess the right one. They're not gonna start in Spain, right? Probably not.
Starting point is 00:34:55 No, they're not starting. Enough with London, if we're gonna be honest. London, look, either London gets it or they don't. We don't need to do three games a year in London. Crowds aren't even that great. But Eagles started the season in Brazil last year. Yeah, but that's true. That is true.
Starting point is 00:35:09 And then there's a whole green, green thing and the gang wars and was it real, was it not? We didn't know. Then they wore green anyways. Everyone was fine. Billy, just say you're gonna do a man on the streets and get the company to pay for it. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:35:20 So Roy does. Not a bad idea. Roy tried to go to Finland. Yeah, he did. That was like where we put the foot down on international travel. Yeah, Roy thought the hockey show's popularity. Scandinavia.
Starting point is 00:35:32 He thought we should send him to Finland to go drink beer so he could come back with a guitar riff again. To finally cup champs, you know, he had to go cover that. That's where the dolphins should play, Finland. Finland, that's not a bad, they do that. I get where the Dolphins should play. Finland. Finland. That's not a bad, not bad. I get it.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Go to Scandinavia, Goodell. You've conquered everything else in the world. Attack Scandinavia. Have it become an American football region. Finland. Figuratively attack. Finland. Dolphinland. There you go.
Starting point is 00:36:01 That's a good, that's what they should call the country. Dolphinlands. Putting it on the record, I don't like that you guys just talked about what's behind his back. No! What the hell's sick is going on with you? Craig! Craig! He got his line wrong again! You gotta get for me, you have to get isolated,
Starting point is 00:36:18 him trying to deliver his Zagack there, and delivering it really poorly, and get me the jerry jones and please because i don't want this guy to get away with it jerry jones at eighty cannot and must not be allowed to sneak ahead coach past us when we're not paying attention because we're busy with the games this weekend trying to do it on friday and he he he got a bunch of noise at night and now Jerry Jones is going everywhere giving
Starting point is 00:36:49 more press conference than Brian Schottenheimer and he's telling you every way and fashion that he runs the team and Brian works for him and their franchise is the most valuable one in the sport. Now I get my proverbial ass kick over needing people in my comfort zone. Without this thing being about me in any way, if you don't think I can't operate out of my comfort zone, you're so wrong. It's unbelievable. This is as big a risk as you can take. As big a risk as you could take, as big a risk as you could take,
Starting point is 00:37:26 no head coaching experience. Just sitting right next to Brian Chottenheimer. Look, if you think I can't get out of my comfort zone, look at this idiot I just hired. No coaching experience. Brian is just like awkwardly like, okay, thank you, thanks coach. I'll prove to you guys how tough I am.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Look at this fool I hired. I can't even imagine how distorted that dude is. Just distorted from whatever comes with fame and wealth in that sport. I saw, I said yesterday, Don Van Nata and Seth Wickersham, who are among the best of real reporting that Billy wants on this game in Spain. Like did a deep dive? No, it wasn't deep.
Starting point is 00:38:12 It was a shallow dive and I've come to expect deep, deep dives from them and all they did was like, there was some secondhand reporting on stuff that confirmed what we already knew, that Dan Snyder's a bleephole, and that Dan Snyder is a bleephole who would not enjoy Washington having success after he's gone.
Starting point is 00:38:33 But the reporting from great reporters created a story that made it yet more obvious to me, man, the wealthy in this country are getting so wealthy that reporters can't even really get near them anymore. Like that there's so many shields and interferences that if you kill the news media, like Wickersham and Vanada are doing it as well as it can be done and they're going anonymous sources that were near the dinner and heard about the dinner because where rich people reside,
Starting point is 00:39:06 reporters can't get there anymore to smoke out what the real truth is. And Snyder left in disgrace. Snyder, we didn't even get to the, they did a lot of reporting on Snyder. What Snyder left in his wake was a disaster minefield that was only revealed to us because the other owners also wanted him gone. Right. that was only revealed to us because the other owners also wanted him gone. Right, but Daniel Snyder not being happy with the commander's success after he leaves is the least shocking thing I've ever heard.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I don't need a deep dive on that. That's correct. That's why I was rooting for the comments. That's a waste of reporting. By the way, Van Etta 100% knows when the Spain game is, Billy. I know, I know. But Jerry Jones was not, he was not shy about chatting during this press conference.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Apparently it was just like 80 minutes of long answers I know but Jerry Jones was not he was not shy about chatting during this press conference apparently It was just like 80 minutes of long answers and there was another really awkward moment When they introduced Brian Schottenheimer that I don't know if people cop but it made me it made me cringe our new Dallas Cowboys head coach Brian Schottenheimer Brian Schottenheimer and Chief Operating Officer, Executive Vice President of Player Personnel and co-owner Stephen Jones. No clapping! And Brian Schottenheimer fills in the awkwardness and is like I'll clap for you. He has no choice.
Starting point is 00:40:28 You think if I get DVN a little liquored up with the rooster, he'll let it slip, tell the rooster, then the rooster could tell me. The rooster, for those of you who don't know, is Don Van Nata's domino partner. We played dominoes together. DVN and the rooster and me. They whipped my ass. Chris, are you simply laughing because Billy sunk deep into his explanation of who the rooster was
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