The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Greg Cote's Top 5 Marches

Episode Date: March 19, 2025

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started. And I think what he was beginning to do, because it became noise after a while when he starts talking about his podcast, like when other people talk about their kids or their fantasy leagues and you just tune it out and stare at their forehead. I'm pretty sure that he was beginning an apology about something that he either misremembered or said incorrectly on the podcast, but then we started the show, I heard the countdown and so we never got to it. Well, I had mentioned that in the ball section, one of the five, you know, spoiler alert, was sports balls.

Do you want to tell people what the ball segment of your podcast? Oh, so more content I know that your narcissism is such that you think that everything you know is something everyone else knows and everything you say is Something that everyone else is hurt. Yeah on my podcast It's a March Madness celebration in which we don't talk about college basketball at all But I have my Mount Greg more which is a top five a final five in the categories marches brackets baskets and balls And in the balls section, unavoidably, one of the top five was sports balls, just sports balls in general. And so Christopher asked me what's your favorite sports ball? And I mentioned that for many years of my life it was a tennis ball because I played a lot of tennis.

I loved tennis, I was pretty good at it, I thought. And then I casually mentioned that you and I used to play, but I couldn't remember how often we played. Like I said, we used to play regularly. I know we played several times, but I couldn't remember whether it was how periodic it was or anything like that, so. And he claims, even though Dan has how many years younger?

He claims you guys were even, that it was like, oh if you played 50 times you won 25 and 25. I would say that's actually pretty close to true, but keep in mind, I believe that I have this right when I say he had played tennis before and I had not. I was playing tennis for the first time in my life. It's not something I'd ever taken up. So we were roughly even and I hated his drop shots.

Like because, yeah, because it was annoying. But you'd been someone who played, put it on the Polat Lebatard show. I suspect that Tony would take basketball if he had to choose from among the best of the balls. Yeah, basketball for sure. Football's a very close second. What I used to do, Greg, as a kid, we had like a sloped roof. What I would do is I would throw the best of the balls. Yeah, basketball for sure. Football's a very close second. What I used to do, Greg, as a kid,

we had like a sloped roof. What I would do is I would throw the ball on the roof, and it would hit the shingles, and then I'd go down and try and catch it. Oh yeah, we've all done that. If I was returning a punt, I would play against myself, and I'd be one team going one way on offense,

the other team going the other way on offense. Roof ball is like a thing. Like it went viral a few years ago. Roof ball's sick. Like they've started leagues. Really? Yeah, like on the internet. I've never heard of it.

Obviously not real leagues, but like just people on the internet. You've never done that? Like that, I thought he was speaking a language right there that a lot of us have done in lonely childhood moments where you don't have anyone else around and you wanna just play something by yourself. You throw a ball on the roof and try and figure out

where it's gonna land and catch it before it hits the ground. I thought a lot of people did that. I am hearing of it for the first time and my initial reaction is it's bad for the roof tiles. You know, I mean, that's why, when you have your roof pressure cleaned, you gotta be careful because somebody steps on tiles, they break and then all of a sudden.

Hey kids, get off of my roof. Yeah, get off, you can be on my lawn, kids, but stay off of my roof. Exactly. That's your first thought, is you worry about the roof tiles because a tennis ball is bouncing on the roof? Yeah, keep in mind, not that many years ago,

five, seven years ago, I had a real problem with Norwegian roof rats, and that was an issue. I don't know why they started there. I don't know, but I actually enjoyed it. I think we should do that more. That was actually more suspenseful. Go ahead and play that again. I'm guessing that Jason just made a giant plate of bacon

and then sat on the wrong button. This is the Dan Leventor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. I need some help from the group here because Greg Cody is a bit cantankerous this morning because he's a little surrounded today and tomorrow. Zaslow, his sworn enemy, is going to be on the show tomorrow and Greg Cody and Zaslow have beef and now we've reached out to Billy Corbin who of course is very busy at City Hall because he always is and We're trying to get a hold of him to talk The hell's he doing at City Hall?

Billy Corbin, what do you mean? What's he doing at City Hall? Don't you imagine? Always be at City Hall, but Greg brings up a good point like he's just there He's not is there a meeting. I'm sure there is a meeting voting voting on anything Don't you understand Billy Corbin is South Florida's self-appointed watchdog looking out over everything protecting all of our rights He's at City Hall waiting for some controversy to happen. Good for you, Billy. Keep it up. So like I said, he's cantankerous and he has called Billy Corbin a jackass before on the air and he's asked me not to inflame that situation, but how do I not inflame that situation when I'm an inflamer? And also when he's coming on with us in a little bit to talk about

this O Cinema story where you've got boycotts and protests over an Oscar-winning movie that's being played and the mayor of Miami Beach is looking to shut down an independent theater. I wanted to talk to Billy Corbin about that. What do I do with Greg Cody here saying, this was his life philosophy, if you treat me like a jackass then I think you're a jackass. And so he didn't have any problem. Like I've said before with Edwin Pope and other columnists, when someone of his stature does something that out of character to call someone publicly a jackass,

it gets my attention more than if a random person is doing it because he does it pretty infrequently. But I feel like Billy Corbin is someone here who is almost universally annoying while always fighting for the right things. So I don't know. That's subjective. It's super subjective.

To who? Even to those on the left, it's subjective. I want to hear Tony's reason why. I'm good. I don't dislike Billy Corbin. He has publicly disrespected me. And I think the human nature, I think all of us might agree, if somebody disrespects you and is against you,

you tend not to like them a lot and you tend to get your back up and say, all right, you're going to call me this and this, I'm going to call you that and that. It is funny how it couldn't be further away from politics, my dad's reason for hating corporate. Well, but no, no, but it's there is something here. You say it's all personal and this one's always interesting to me because that that one subjective where people say in these kinds of conversations they don't do anything personal then everyone has a different

definition for how they take things personally the source of this is that billy corbin didn't want the marlins to get that stadium and greg cody was rob rying on behalf of his business being fine with the taxpayers paying so that uh... the marlins could have a stadium that before the show i saw a friend is in my crying a bunch of people screaming at each other as my crime claim that loan depot park uh... you know was not to stand it's a whole it's a whole

it's uh... it's an assault on the census to all these different colors and i know that they change the the apple green walls which were assault on the senses too. All these different colors and I know that they changed the the apple green walls which were just horrendous to look at. But it's just there's this constant ambient hum, the food options stink, the sight lines are no good. The sight lines are fine. No I hate the sight lines. It's designed to be a baseball stadium. You can see the field from every spot. You know what's designed to be a baseball stadium? Camden Yards. That's designed to be a baseball stadium.

I'm not arguing that Lone Depot Park is a top whatever ballpark in all sports. I'm just saying we're being affected by how bad the Marlins are. If the Marlins were in the playoffs the last 10 years, we would feel differently about this ballpark. It's not a great park. I gotta say I never liked it.

From opening day on, and I was someone that was a proponent of it, even though that meant tearing down the Orange Bowl, and I got there, I'm like, this is what they decided to do with it. What started this debate is there was a, like Google, Yelp, they kind of formulated all the reviews from all the stadiums in the NFL, NBA, and MLB, and they ranked 90 stadiums.

And Kaseya Center, the Heat's Arena, is a top 10 arena, according to reviews, and Lone Depot and Hard Rock were 62, 63 out of 90. Yeah, but, I mean, we don't have to rehash this whole thing. But the controversy around Lone Depot Park wasn't because it was ugly, or like the walls were a bad color.

Like, you understand that, right, Chris? No, we all know that. So like the wins and losses thing, like that doesn't really change the reality of how the park ended up where it is. Yeah, but I mean that's already known. I understand that they didn't charge a tax payer. But that was where this whole conversation started, right?

Isn't that why Greg and David don't get along? That's why the personal nature of the beef starts there and I don't think that there's anything else to it other than that. Well I was one of the few people in this market who was a proponent of them building getting that stadium built and the difference between Corbin and I on this particular topic is that he thinks I should have been protecting the taxpayers of Miami-Dade by questioning the deal and how much money and who was paying this and how much taxes were going. And that's up to the politicians. My job as a sports columnist in this market, I think, in this

case, was to be a proponent for the new stadium they needed to keep the team down here. They got it built and that's actually, although it's a controversial one that's actually the only positive legacy of of Laurie is time here as the primary owner or at least it's the biggest one along with one world series well when you say those band of the team well when you say though the one positive and you guys in the other room say Billy Corbin according to whom is on the right side of things Billy Corbin is perpetually fighting corruption he's on the right side of things. Billy Corbyn is perpetually fighting corruption. He's on the right side of perpetually fighting corruption. You can have your issues with all of the other activisms

depending on whether your political leanings are one way or the other, but there is no disputing that he's one of the few vigorous and vigilant about holding public officials accountable on how it is that they're supposed to behave with the public's money as servants that's not up for dispute correct no one here would dispute that portion of it that's not subjective no and and i agree that looking back there was malfeasance on

the part of miami and miami-dade politicians to get fleeced by jeffrey laurea it was jeffrey je was Jeffrey Loria is a businessman and a pretty good one. His job is to get the best deal he can and boy did he. That's correct but when you guys say and I ask Billy Corbin tends to be correct when it comes to this thing it's been an enormous waste of money locally. It's not just that our politicians got taken, it's that the sport's only alive here barely

and not functioning as a business in any reasonable way because they got that stadium. It's otherwise they'd be in the situation the A's are in. Local governments misappropriate funds all the time. It's one thing to say flatly that that money was used for a waste when you have no idea what that money would have gone to. You can have an idea, but you also have less say

in the matter when this is something that was actually on the ballot. Wait, that's crazy logic though. Like a city shouldn't waste money because they'll just end up wasting it on something else. I'm saying that stadium referendums are one of the few times that you can actually vote on these things and you can actually see whether or not and decide whether or not this is a good allocation when a lot of times they do stuff with autonomy or just commissioners

do it. My big issue was they got the stadium, they cried poor, and then they sold the team that they spent a lot of money for right then and there. They made the Blue Jays trade, which I know in retrospect they ended up winning, but we don't need to litigate all this stuff, and yeah, while I agree that Billy is generally on the right side of corruption, how he goes about doing things rubs certainly a lot of people the wrong way.

He's a rabble rouser. The state of the Marlins today is a whole different, the sad state of the Marlins today is a whole different subject. Bruce Sherman's one of the worst owners in all sports he's spending half one-third of what he needs to be spending just to compete

but the stadium itself and not even compete right the stadium itself i think is is very good uh... looking at it from the macro the retractable roof was a very smart idea not unnecessary idea it overlooks the miami skyline it was a very smart idea, a necessary idea. It overlooks the Miami skyline. It's a very pretty vista when you're at that stadium. They don't fill it because they have a lousy team because they don't spend, but that's 10 years, 15 years after the stadium. We're going to talk to David Sampson about this in about 30 minutes.

He built that stadium. One of the most amazing things I've ever seen in South Florida Business is the fact that he got that thing built and on time and with no overruns in this city because yes Those people are very good at business. We're going for likeable this morning, huh? Billy Corbin gonna join us at some point from City Hall But you guys have it right when you say sometimes He's just hanging around City Hall because he's like something out of a Carl Hyacin novel in that Xavier Suarez did pull into his parking spot the other day and Billy Corbin's like leaning against City Hall for No particular reason just shouting at him. Hey mayor

Tony what are you shaking your head about? No shout out to the chat by the way You have a lot of opinions you have been saying them non-stop since the show started none of them have been into a microphone Wow Let's not do that Corruption doesn't usually happen at City Hall it happens outside of City Hall So go to other places around and try to figure that out. They happen in the back rooms of restaurants and things like that. Are we sure he's there because of the politicians

or the fact that there are microphones there? We will ask him that. I don't believe that those who live in ass houses should be throwing stones. We like our microphones too around here. It's not like anybody here has any complaints about microphones. Speaking of which, we need to get Taylor in here

to talk about the North Carolina game last night. He's always in here. He's not ready to go yet. How about that, bud? He's still rubbing his nipples. Where are all the critics now? Where is there, where are you mayor of, uh, governor of West Virginia? How bad is North Carolina now? They kicked ass. They had a statement to make and they made it in capital letters. Go Tar Heels! Who'd they make it against?

You know, some team I'd never heard of it was a final four like two years ago San Diego State yeah it was a UM final four where UM tanked and everybody else stayed good they didn't tank intentionally tanking team I've never heard of no I mean it's a play-in game is what I mean, but give North Carolina credit. Everybody maligns them saying they didn't deserve to be here and they sort of made a statement for themselves. Good for them. You seem to be very vibrant on behalf of North Carolina, the last team to make the tournament.

Well, because they were maligned, which means unfairly criticized. Not unfairly. Not unfairly when you're one in twelve. Okay, they ended their regular season, or the playoff ACC, by almost beating a great Duke team. How did West Virginia end their season? I really hated how to be San Diego State. Such a scrappy underdog program. They do everything the right way. But what we had to do was put their head on a stake and remind everybody who North Carolina is.

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Stugats. Don't do it. This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugats. I want to ask all of you here, sports fans, the folks who over the years have gotten more than a little annoyed when you say likeable and unlikable of this show and what it's been regarding the Miami Heat for 15 years. I believe that there is audience here today exclusively to find out how we feel about Jimmy Butler leading the Warriors last night in a way that he plays the entire fourth quarter,

he gets a bunch of free throws, Steph is not needed, they beat Milwaukee, they beat Dame, they're beating Dame and Giannis, and they're doing so going through Jimmy Butler with Draymond Green holding Giannis to 0 for 6. Jimmy Butler must haunt Yanis. Yanis must be haunted by everything Jimmy Butler. Draymond Green

says hey Wemby's out I want to be defensive player of the year again because he shuts down Yanis. Okay, shuts down Yanis and then after the game Jimmy Butler is saying not only can he do that to anybody he demands that no one help him with It he does not want any help He gets insulted by Draymond Green old as he is annoying as he is still plays Defense at a level that is insane and he's flying up the defensive player of the year rankings and odds on he's second odds On favorite right now to win at plus 650 on DraftKings Evan Mobley's the only one ahead of a minus 275 Maybe three weeks ago, maybe a month ago to win at plus 650 on DraftKings. Evan Mobley's the only one ahead of it, minus 275.

Maybe three weeks ago, maybe a month ago, he wasn't even on the board. And I'm wondering if to the group here, this feels like if you're an ex in a relationship, you see your ex out with somebody else, and all of a sudden it seems like they have a more passionate relationship than the one that you had.

And all of a sudden, you find yourself longing for everything that's happening over there because the Warriors are 14 and 2 and now when Steph is tired because this part was interesting. So Steve Kerr says yesterday Steph's tired, he's exhausted, he's carried us for a month. Steph has seven turnovers in a game, can't make anything, says I'm not tired, says it's my back, my back hurts and Kerr is saying it's from carrying the team. Now you bring someone in somewhat. Jimmy Butler never had something like Steph here. Jimmy Butler, everyone here was begging the heat to get him

something better than Jimmy Butler so then Jimmy Butler could be that on select occasions when it's needed. So when you see that happen last night, your feelings are what? I don't feel like a jilted ex lover. I don't. I feel like, it's like the Tom Brady quote about his marriage. They put on a joint statement, our marriage did not fail. It was a successful marriage. I think I'm pretty confident unless he has an Andre

Iguodala type finals that's paired up with a Steph Curry type finals where he wins an MVP in an NBA finals. He's going to be remembered as a member of the Miami Heat. When people close their eyes and they think of Jimmy Butler, the image that they're probably gonna get is him bent over a scorers table in the bubble in a Miami Heat uniform.

He went to two finals down here, it was a great time, he proved that he can be the best player on the team that went to multiple finals. And I'm very secure in it, and I'm actively rooting for him to win that championship, so that can't be held against his brilliant career. I think when people think of Jimmy Buffett, Jimmy Buffett, I say that all the time, and I'm actively rooting for him to win that championship so that can't be held against his brilliant career. I think when people think of Jimmy Buffett, Jimmy Buffett, I say that all the time, Jimmy Butler in Miami

they're going to think of the burned bridge which is still smoldering. And then they're going to think, you know what, Jimmy Butler was right after all because he's so fit for that role in Golden State where he doesn't have to be the best player anymore. He did have to be the best player in Miami and although he had a fairly successful run here it wasn't ultimately successful and the Heat failed to make him the second best player on the team and they're still looking for an elite player who's going to be the best player on the team because it's not Bam and it's not Hero and it wasn't Jimmy Butler. That's the problem with the Heat right now. They're stagnating without a premier player.

Again though, 11 for 11 from the line plays the whole fourth quarter and every play in the fourth quarter is run through him. Yeah, he's gonna be great I think for them during this window and then maybe next season. It won't be as great and then it'll just keep declining. I think he's got one more run in him and I'm hopeful to see that.

I think if they have a good run and he's really good in the post-season, then even though it's part of the narrative down here locally, people will look back on his time, especially if he becomes an NBA champion and his time in a Heat uniform will be remembered. For the Miami Heat specifically failing him and that'll become the narrative.

The part that I wanted to talk with you guys about though because the league has been taken away from Steph Curry. The way that you honor the back end of his career, one of the most amazing things any of us have ever seen anywhere across sports, the existence of Steph Curry, the way that you protect his aging when the Van Gundys say the hardest thing to do in coaching is to coach the aging superstar. superstar that thing in Golden State that features Draymond Green and Jimmy Butler my question to you guys is how does all of that age when both of them are unwilling reluctant

to give up who they've always been because they're in their later thirties and at some point there has to be a diminishment Cohen. Draymond Green already at this point is only a defensive player. We laugh at him in every other respect because he is largely offensively washed but he does one thing is the fuel of that thing and when it's not working right he'll punch in the face help ill and so that's opposite jimmy butler so would you have a lot of people feel this way sam or was all of us this is what he had to say about dream on green and just the very idea that he would say that cat was avoiding jimmy butler in a game between the nicks

and the warriors and then afterward the nix players were dapping up dream on green instead of defending their teammate Draymond bothers me and you said he apologized he didn't apologize he gave a Draymond apology He bothers me the podcast he has bothers me because he brought him Baron Davis to make himself more likable He's not likable. He's terrible broadcasting He lacks charisma the way Shaq and Barkley ballbust Draymond can't he's not likable. He's terrible at broadcasting. He lacks charisma. The way Shaq and Barkley ball-bust, Draymond, he's not able to do that.

He's like the kid who thinks he can ball-bust but then says, like, your mom has cancer. And you're like, that's not a joke that she actually does have cancer. That's like his sense of humor. He sucks. He's mentally ill. If he was a football player,

he'd be Antonio Brown by now. He's unhinged. He has like the ego of like, If he was a football player, he'd be Antonio Brown by now. He's unhinged. He has like the ego of like, it's like if Ringo Starr was the biggest dick in the Beatles, you know? Like it's weird that Paul, George, and John are nice and then Ringo's a dick. I don't think you can just accuse him

of being mentally ill. I think that's a bit irresponsible. Okay, he's got all his marbles. You think he's not mentally ill? I don't know. I just don't, I don't know that, I'm not comfortable just saying that about somebody. Certainly the resume has a lot of behavior

that's unstable on it. Yeah, I mean, he's just upset that Rudy Gobert, it's not Rudy Gobert's fault. He keeps winning Defensive Player of the Year, and he just like puts him in a sleep Gobert, it's not Rudy Gobert's fault, he keeps winning defensive player of the years and he just like puts him in a sleeper hold. That's not the behavior of someone who's got it all together. It bothered me that the Knicks tapped him up. I think if Jalen Brunson was there,

it would have been a different vibe. I don't like that. Not pictured Commissioner Gordon. Dan, first and foremost, let me say, I'm proud of you and the growth that you've made over the last week on journalistic responsibility. That's huge. I'm glad that you corrected Sam on saying

that wasn't fair to label Draymond Green as mentally ill. That is great work out of you. And also, Sam, I'm pretty sure you'd love Draymond if he were a New York Nick. There's so many of those guys. There's one in Brad Morichon and Matthew Kachuk, also on the Florida Panthers, that you hate them if they're not on your team.

You love them if they're on your team. But rare for two to be on the same team, aging at the same rate is what I'm saying too. Yeah, I mean Jimmy's a different type of player, he brings more to the table offensively, but Draymond, like he has his role offensively, I get what you're saying and look, it's working now, we'll see what happens in the playoffs.

I'm not actually even questioning it, I'm just super interested in seeing how all of it plays out because you've got, the thing that made me think of it is I'm assuming that everyone listening to this knows what it feels like to have somebody in your workplace, one person in a workplace who you think like greg cody thinks of billy corbin that guy that person's a jackass but when there are two of them in a small small workspace and there are two of the ones in the league that we all look at and say

that's the top of the food chain on on like people others wouldn't want to play with i think it's a fascinating bet that golden state is making on pressing the gas on, we got a couple of months to figure this out for Steph. We can't even take next year for granted. We'll give Jimmy the extension, but this is about right now. Can we take out OKC before OKC becomes too good to take out? What's the longest Jimmy Butler has ever been paired

on a team with someone that is obviously greater than him? The flash that D Wade had, no pun intended, in Chicago. That locker room had all sorts of problems between him, Rondo, and Wade. He gravitated towards Wade, and it was the vets against the young guys, but he was still younger in his career, and everybody knew that Dwayne Wade was historically the greater player then.

Then in Philadelphia, you can argue that and Bede was going to be, was the better player on that team, but that was a short-term deal. So kind of blessed in his career. He rubs people the wrong way, but he also has the benefit of hardest thing to coaches the aging superstar because confidence is the last thing to go last thing and and the mirrors the last thing to know and so jimmy butler's not going to concede to anybody's not going to concede if he's the team player everyone thinks that he is this is a fairly self-aware easy easy genuflect to make. I'm going to Steph's team. This is all

this I'm I got my money and now I'm here to get a I'm here to go 11 for 11 on free throws and if they need me in the fourth quarter because Steph can't carry us I'll play the entire fourth quarter and have all the plays run through me. I think the other thing too is having Steve Kerr in that locker room to kind of like get the tensions down a little bit. Obviously Steve Kerr does a lot of stuff with USA basketball, has the ability and has the track record of coaching some of these monster personalities and monster players. It's like, all right, Jimmy, this is Steph's team.

You know that you're coming in, but I can help you kind of fit in the way that you would if it was like a super team, like a USA basketball or something like that. Except for one very famous example where it didn't work. Well, I mean, that wasn't his fault. I wanted to ask the group though, because I'm guilty of something here that I see as a great source of conflict in the NBA and at the top of the NBA pyramid media pyramid. Right now, you've got an interesting thing happening in the

content game where Barkley and Shaq have kind of been running it for a really long time and there are plenty of new voices in basketball who are tired of the old voices no matter how popular they are to us and they get bothered by things like Shaq being on inside the nb a and being able to get away with not knowing who the coach of the pistons is not watching the pistons and criticizing a team that's one of the better ones in the league this year because we hang on to

the for the things we've been talking about for twenty years stephan lebron stephan lebron michelle beetle uh... was on the other days uh... it's saying when barkley said those fools of the espion who are just talking lakers lebron all the time she got she ran a foul of lebron while at the espionage he's saying yes we were all fools and are fools the way that we just keep talking about

lebron all the time instead of celebrating this new generation of players because it's easier to talk about the thing you've always talked about then to talk about OKC or Minnesota or even Denver somehow because their stars not interesting enough for us but Barkley calls Kendrick Perkins a fool and then the retort from Kendrick Perkins is this hey NBA on TNT might want to tell that senior citizen Charles Barkley that I'll be around when he sees an idiot or fool in person make sure he keeps that same energy straight

from the 409 homeboy and we barn on and fade all hashtag Texas boy I read that quickly because I didn't want to read that yes you see right through me Jessica you couldn't have noticed that from the very awkward you didn't have to read it Greg how do you feel about him using senior citizen as a sort of slur in that I think it's a it's a clever slur I mean is he 65 how old is Barclay isn't he 60 I think he just turned 60 I think that's how that's a broad parameter of the phrase senior citizen. Sixty-two. See, this is all great though. It's great for everybody. It's great for all the networks involved, all the principles involved. Like I said the other day, controversy is good in almost every instance, particularly when you're speaking into a microphone.

Okay, but you guys think, just, I mean, I understand what is happening in the entirety of the content space, not just sports, but documentaries and people's lack of use for independent freedom, not former player. The idea that Charles Barkley is critical of you and your coverage and that the response is make sure that when we're in front of each other you might be ready to fight that's a new thing but that's not how we've done that before when the media is talking about the games in the criticism is going back and

forth between two entities in this case we're going to work together next year of charles decides that he wants to be there with these people and it can all be wrestling, but I'm just curious if you guys care at all that it all becomes wrestling. That's Perk being Perk. Perk goes at people like that all the time and I don't actually think they have to work together.

It seems like they're licensing TNT's coverage, right? So they get to operate in their silo. They don't actually ever have to interface with ESPN's NBA team, which history tells us will change again. Cooper Perkins get involved in there, and I understand where he's coming from and defending himself. But I'm old enough to remember NBA finals at John Berry

was a key analyst for. Jalen, Antonio Davis, they come and go. It's very transient over there. And if they actually have an anchor in TNT's coverage, I would try to ingratiate myself over to that. Otherwise you may end up looking like Lance Stevenson going up against LeBron. I also wouldn't assume genuine anger on either side.

I think when these guys see each other, they're gonna shake hands, they're gonna have a little giggle. Hey, this was all a bit, you're a good guy. Clap each other they're gonna shake hands they're gonna have a little giggle hey this was all a bit you're a good guy clap each other on the back and move on I don't think that they're really that angry okay well but the thing that I'm asking you about all of you is back when we were the young different thing we were doing the bit to everybody because they were doing the serious thing. Now everyone's good with bit.

Like we're good with we're good with what's we're asking this. I'm I'm I'm I'm asking. I'm doing bit now. I'm asking. I am actively doing bit. I am asking. You know what? I'm going to hold on a second.

I've asked enough times for you guys to stop explaining the show here that Major penalty five minutes rooting comedy. I don't need to hear anyone's actively doing bit ever again from anyone on the show That's the year the idea That two major media figures would go back and forth with beef is something I enjoy as content. Why have you not left yet? Why are you still here? Was that, okay, I'll leave. That was for you, yes. He thought that was a bit.

So you want me to go to a fake penalty box. Whoa! Not do a bit. What do you mean it's fake? It's not fake, what do you mean it's fake? Get out of here! It's a five minute penalty. It's a five minute penalty and it's not fake. You did the crime now do the time

Somebody's listening around like wait what I genuinely thought you were doing that to yourself Okay, that's good that that's what you thought that you can leave now But why would he be doing it to himself? Why do any of us I Enjoy this does the audience is we're good with the trade right because obviously a portion of this is personal to me Right. I kind of liked when ESPN allowed the journalists to have the strength I've also been actively and publicly cheerleading for all of the athletes running into the space to make it a democracy. But when they do so what you get is documentaries that aren't

actually the truth. They're just sort of documentaries that have access because we're blurring the line on some of where these conflicts are in the business economy of this. So when Beatle as JJ reddick says yet esp is just forcing the brown on you through topics like were forced to do that as a topic because same way you do t-bone and i'm asking you guys do you do with the sport the right service when you're doing wrestling character about the the guy you've been talking

about for twenty years and ignoring that the MVP is in Oklahoma City because you don't know how to talk about that team, even as it runs roughshod over everybody. And even if you do know how to talk about it, your audience doesn't care and your audience is dictating everything because everyone's fighting over the audience,

so you have to talk about the things that's gonna get the most people in the tent. But in the transaction, you lose the ability to sell young people anymore you just tell the same stories you've been telling for ten for twenty years to the most important demo well but as as the media we have to do both right where we have to acknowledge the new wave and and the nba has has a great young wave of stars right now but people still want to talk about LeBron James. He's a unicorn. He's a one-of-a-kind. And we've done that across time with extraordinary

athletes. We talked about Tom Brady nonstop. We talked about Serena Williams even after she was past her prime. We're still talking about Tiger Woods 15 years after his last major win. We do that because these are legendary figures in sports. Why wouldn't we talk about them? And LeBron James, since they added Don Cich, that's a good team right now. It's a little bit of a renaissance for the Lakers, which is a major franchise.

We always talk about the Yankees. We talk about big franchises and big players, and I don't apologize for that. Tiger Woods won a major in 2019. Point still stands though, Greg, but I think it's all part of the issue that first take kind of put everybody in where it's like we're gonna talk about LeBron and skip is gonna argue with Stephen A and we're just gonna have this be debate culture and all of a sudden now we're seeing the seeds of that 10-15

years down the line where yeah all we can kind of do is talk about LeBron right? Nick Wright who's now one of these new voices of the generation continues the propaganda of talking about LeBron. When are we going to talk about Jokic? When are we going to talk about SGA? These like when is that going to happen? Who's going to bring that to the forefront where the casual fan's going to be able to understand that? Jason Tatum is listening and watching the coverage of him a champion. He's done what right he's done whatever it is he was supposed to do with his talents he has achieved now we cannot diminish him in much of it anyway

he's saying i don't get my proper respect part of that is because we're always talking about the other people were refusing in narrative to give the league over to the other people will talk about anthony edwards will talk about John Moran. But not this way. Not with the stories that we've fallen in love with for 15 years so that we're still talking about the Warriors and Theo Pinson, who is proving to us that there are just too many podcasts. Theo Pinson is out here saying this of Jimmy Butler and the Miami Heat. The Miami Heat is worse. That is a worse trade than Dallas and the Lakers. Yes. By far. Yeah.

Dallas is just getting cooked by injuries. I kind kinda agree with that. The Heat are healthy. And they suck. Jimmy Butler was Heat culture. Yes. Regardless of what the fuck you thought he was doing off the court, that mother fucker brought a toughness. He brought a mentality. Leadership.

He had leadership. Bro, I swear to God, it did not matter what seed the Miami Heat were. If they got in the playoffs playoffs any team that played them You didn't want to buckle the fuck up. You didn't want to see a dogfight Theo pins to play for the Dallas Mavericks played a couple years in a big coffee by the way Just for those of you out there like Theo pins. I feel like I've heard that name. Yeah Raymond Feltons on that Byron Scott has a podcast. There are a lot of podcasts

What sentence could you put together that would be the funniest there if I went all in with Byron Scott has a podcast. There are a lot of podcasts. What sentence could you put together that would be the funniest there? If I went all in with Byron Scott has a podcast, what are you beating me with as a hand? Chris Cote, Jess, Tony, Tony's brother, Taylor, Billy, Ethan, Mike Fuentes, we have a podcast. The Greg Cote Show. That's what's beating that.

Featuring Greg Cote. Damn right. Has a podcast. In the most recent episode, we've got a best marches, best balls, best brackets, best baskets. Correct. I'm honored that you remembered all four categories. It seems like a real delight.

It is. That you just making lists with your son is also proof that there are too many podcasts. Now that the window has closed on the voting for the top five marches, do you wanna reveal the top five marches to this audience? He don't remember them, do you? I don't remember all five off the top five.

You're the worst. I mean, come on, how important are you? You disrespect. Trying to promote your podcast. You disrespect the worst. I mean, come on. How important are you? You disrespect. I'm trying to promote your podcast. You disrespect the march by not remembering that the Million Man March is among your greatest marches. No, it actually wasn't. Stunner.

Okay, I can name the march. Ides of March, were you there for it? The what? The Million Man March? No, the Ides of March. Oh, no. That would have been a good one, though. You were covering it.

That was O-L-I. I knowes of March. Oh, no. That would have been a good one though. You were covering it. That was O-L-I. I know two of them. You had March of 77 when you lost your virginity. Right. And then March of 2023 when you and I went to the Final Four. Right, which was a lovely father-son trip. One of them is Peggy March, little Peggy March, who had a great million selling record in the 60s. I will follow him wherever he will go. What were the other marches? Oh, the march in Selma,

the mid-60s Selma march for civil rights. That was on there. And what was the missing march? You remember? Oh, John Philip Sousa's famous march. The all-time great musical march. So it turns out the winning march, spoiler alert, was me losing my virginity. It won in a landslide. I would have voted for... This is a new and improved down-leve-tar show with the Stoogats.

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