The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Heat Stroke

Episode Date: March 25, 2025

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I think more than I ever have in the history of our company, because your face when we talk about the heat and Jimmy Butler and Coke, yeah, your, your face speaks for what I know is the audience outside of Miami. And Zaslow is a bigger Homer than Mike. I just don't think that's true or possible. I don't think that's true. I'm telling you, I think that Zaslow is more than Parakeet Cortez. Ask him what he thought about Xavier Restrepo's 40 time and see what he says.

And then we can decide who's a bigger homer. But it's really hard to beat Mike and Jeremy. So this is what I need your help with, because I think that Jimmy Butler's stuff is gonna contaminate the show, poison it, and I've seen over the last, I don't know, 12 months, you have been beaten down by heat disease. Like, there's no subject around here that we- It's called heat stroke.

Any amount of heat talk makes like I see it on your face and when I see it on your face I see the rest of our audience outside of Miami I've hated the Miami Heat since the decision because Michael Wilbond told me LeBron James was gonna come to the Bulls and he didn't and then I moved here and I hated them even more because I had to sit next to Mike Ryan and Jeremy for four years So what am I gonna do today? No, but I have to do it Jeremy just ran across the street for live coverage

He just he just ran across traffic. What are you laughing about? What if we just tell him he's gonna be on the air, but we really just leave him across the street. I Think that's what Dan was planning to do already. I have a problem though, because Roy, you can vouch for this. Who's a bigger Heat homer, Zaslow or Mike Ryan? Oh, it's John Jones, Zaslow. He bought a championship ring. What, he did?

I think he owns two championship rings that the team gave him. Why did you just accuse him of buying a championship ring? He bought the championship ring. That is not in any way true. This is the Dan Leventor Show with the Stoogats Podcast. This is the Dan LeBattor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. If you were not listening during the Shadow Show, I do believe that I just heard Roy make an accusation against Jonathan Zaslow that is the single greatest insult uttered from one person who works here to another that I have ever heard.

I read on the face of Jonathan Zaslow more hatred for Roy who he's loved all his life. More hatred for Roy for accusing Jonathan Zaslow of buying a Miami Heat championship ring instead of undeserved. Earning it. Earned, not given. You've heard that before, right? Earned, not given. Hey, I didn't say you didn't earn it. Okay. I just said you bought it. That is a shocking accusation. That's not how I expect to start a Tuesday.

I thought I was coming in here, I thought everybody's feeling good about themselves, I thought we're going to be all over the heat's tip tonight because Jimmy Butler is here and he's part of the enemy. That's unnecessary. I'm just saying, all right? I thought we were all on the same page and that is a heavy accusation. What do you think, hypothetically, Hard Times, Zaslow Manor, what do you think you could get for those rings?

You know, let's just put it this way, alright? Everybody knows that if their house caught fire in the middle of the night, we all have that one thing that we would grab on the way out and the box with my rings in it. That's right, rings, plural, plural. The box with my rings in it, that's what I'd be grabbing. So the best way to answer that question is priceless, baby. Okay, let's say hypothetically you have to sell something, and in this weird world it's like a Zaslow fan

that just won Zaslow memorabilia and it is either one of your rings or your children's birth certificates. Birth certificate, you can get another. Yeah, you can get another one. No problem. I can't go to the championship ring store and get another one with Zaslow engraved on it, no.

But I can go to the birth certificate store. You can, you bought the first one, you can just buy another one. Okay, that's insulting. You guys need to be nicer to him So he didn't buy it the team gave it to him stole it Stole it. How do you steal something with your name on it? It has my name on it All right, so this is Roy that was shocking

Okay, just I can't think of anything worse in the executive producer seat than to have someone new as a co-host Not how you make someone feel wanted it's Unbelievable that you would accuse him of buying his championship Solicited I did well he made an accusation there that I would also make of Zaslow he was actually paid to wear that ring because the heat paid him for years as the pregame Postgame like how many people on the show have been on the heat paper that ring because the Heat paid him for years as the pregame, postgame. Oh my god, how many people on the show have been on the Heat payroll? Well, okay, that's not true. I was paid through the radio station, not the Heat. I've never

been on the Heat's payroll. I do have to mention that. Jeremy says the same thing. Jeremy's paid by the regional network. The media get talking points from the heat. This is what's going to be put out there. Billy, that might be the stupidest question that you've ever asked. Well, I asked a pretty bad hypothetical earlier. Yeah, you did.

OK, so go ahead and do that then, Billy. Well, no, we can get to that later. We're talking about the heat now. I'm just saying. The talking points this week were the Jimmy Butler tribute video to get a gauge for what the fans want, to get a gauge for what the reaction is going to be. You're told to put feelers out there on Butler tribute video to get a gauge for what the fans want to get a gauge for what the reaction is gonna Be right you you're told to put feelers out there. Okay video. I am certainly not told anything since I stopped being on the broadcast

I haven't been on that broadcast since the year 2022 of our Lord. All right since then I've never been told anything All right, the thing the words that come out of these at that mouth, the words that come from this lips, fall from this frame. You said that very poorly. Hold on, hold on. You said that very poorly. Are we live? The seat gets everyone.

Erase that. About the words coming out of that lip. Let's start over. Wait a minute, let's go to a real broadcaster, live across the street. Jeremy Tashay is in the weeds with the Miami Heat because it's a very serious day. The Jimmy Butler is returning to the Miami Heat.

Let's go out to Jeremy Tashay. He is the first reporter who's out there right around the ambiance. What's going on out there, Jeremy? Dan, we wanted to be the very first ones on this story as the energy gathers here outside the casaya center We have Dwayne Wade over my right shoulder, but we know that Jimmy Butler will be looking over both shoulders as the heat Approach him tonight Jeremy Tash a metal arc media here outside the casaya center

Why is he wearing sunglasses the Sun is rising behind him and there's a building in the way. He's standing in shadow All right, that's a live report Thank there is indeed a reflection off the building across the street the voice too. I don't like it what the sing-song For your for your paid stuff No, he wants Jeremy Tachay metal arc media. He wants He already got his marching orders Dan. He went inside got his marching orders came back Oh, he wants he wants to he wants to run between both worlds and then eventually be a sideline reporter who's playing a kaleidoscope or playing a, you know, doing something.

A xylophone? A xylophone, excuse me. A kaleidoscope is that thing that looks like a... Yes, it would have been a better joke, is a xylophone. But he wants to be a sideline reporter who dabbles in the arts, but he's got to go sell his soul with cheese broadcasting first. I am selling grilled cheese. Is that what you said out here, Dan?

Grilled cheese, no. They don't sell grilled cheese at Big Face Coffee, but they do sell $50 cups of coffee, unless you're a Golden State Warriors employee, in which case that will cost you $30. That's the latest report from Jimmy Butler in his camp. Here the casaya Center Jeremy Tash a metal arc media that's good information thank you Jeremy we'll be checking back in over the course we have next important four hours he's dying to talk about this stuff gonna be

out there for four hours I mean it's a big day it's a big this is the big story of the well juju Watkins should be the big story of the day, but locally, locally. I feel like this game has been, it just needs to happen already, because we've been talking about it for so long. We just need to get this over with. I'm just glad that they won the other day, man. You think I need 11 game losing streak

as the headline on national TV? I don't need that in my life. Okay, but let me ask you guys this question, because I would imagine the nation at large is weary Of all of this especially here I would say that there's just a general fatigue about really we're gonna make all of this noise about Jimmy Butler When yeah, he kind of made himself a star in Miami and got the things that he wanted and what was a blessed marriage for both parties for

The entire time they were together and then at the end got the things you want and what was a blessed marriage for both parties for uh... the entire time they were together and then at the end he said i'm more valuable than this and since then has proved it because the last sixteen games i think we can also i was right all those forty point games were acquired from him in the playoffs he had a double never won in the regular season so these guys were helpers bam all-star olympian champion you know winner guy

your number two and your number you're not your number two and look at what it looks like when it's you and here always the number one jimmy jimmy ends up winning there he he's coming back a winner on what this looks like but what i want to ask jessica about and the audience at large is because i hate pre games but this stuff we love this that soap opera nonsense the narratives the stories the things

that make it all easy and and and dumb but is fun for content but when sports can be great what has to happen tonight for it to merit even a fraction of the amount of talk it's gotten when the nation at large says get Jimmy Butler out of my life he's not a champion he's a he's he is he's a number one who's actually a number two Because he's never gonna win a championship as the lead guy I think I think I'm sorry just I'll just say I think most everyone is watching tonight hoping Jimmy Butler crushes The that's what I was about to say 50-point game from Jimmy Butler Oh, she's the I will go run a lap around the Kasiah Center tomorrow morning.

So that is what that would make it worth it. It's not game winner, it's not a fight, it's like what is the ideal situation? Content goldmine of I'm interested in sports and the buildup to a regular season game. This is the last regular season, this is the last game of the heat season that will matter because even in those play-in games, we all know this team is not going anywhere, it's broken. You're not getting fired up for Heat at Chicago play-in? Chicago put up 150 on the Lakers.

Chicago's good. They love the play-in game too. Chicago's a fun team. Listen, guys, just a couple of years ago, people were saying that Heat should lose a play-in game so that they could increase their shot at getting the number one pick or winning the lottery. And what happened?

The Heat went on a magical run because of Kulture and Jimmy Butler, and they made it all the way to the NBA Finals in a Hollywood-type story that just didn't have that ending that we needed. But once you win and you get in, anything can happen. I think this Heat team can go on a run. OK, Billy, thank you for that. What else is to do with that? No, no, well, I'm gonna explain something

that's happening with Billy right now. He feels a genuine snort. I'm gonna explain exactly what's happening with Billy Gill. He's been very frustrated for 12 months, more than 12 months, actually, probably his lifetime with our show, because he believes, what do you mean? I haven't even made the accusations yet. I see we're starting

with 12 months and I'm looking at my timeline and life I know what's going on here but. Okay over the course of you living in a world where the heater talked about the way this show talks about them I believe that for largely 20 years you believe that there are things you're not allowed to say about the Miami Heat. Oh, I can't. No. Your voice has been suppressed for 20 years around here, and today's your day, Billy

Gill, because this is the biggest Heat homer I've ever met. This right here- He's a journalist. Jonathan's a- I am a journalist. I mean, I'm not a journalist. Ignore what he's wearing. He's a journalist.

That's a journalist. That's true. Jonathan Zaz, look, I, I, Mike Ryan criticizes poisonously the Miami Heat. Zaz will get mad at him. Zaz will not rip the Miami Heat the way Mike Ryan does. Well, and Mike sits here, Mike sits here and will tell you that he's not watching the Heat. I'm, I'm watching the Heat begrudgingly

the last couple of months. Like I wake up in the morning, now don't feel that way today, because I'm looking forward to the game tonight, but I'll wake up begrudgingly over the last month, like, oh great, the Heat are playing tonight. That's what I gotta do for two and a half hours of my life tonight.

Like I, Mike Ryan won't watch it though. I mean, I'm sitting here and hang with him, man. I will still tell you what he thinks, don't worry. Okay, but when I talk about Heat fans in the history of this market, what this team means to Zaslow and now Zaslow's kids because he insisted on passing it down, as someone who was proud, honored to earn,

working days and nights, his shifts were crazy, man. That's why I have all the gray hair. I mean, that was, I did that for seven years. All right, so for seven years, he's doing the post game and then waking up to do the morning show and he aged about 40 years in seven years. He arrived here, a broken man. He used to be the young one, Tony, laughin' his face.

He used to be the young one, he used to be the kid and seven years of loving the heat, he gave his heart and age over to this franchise. I gave them years of my life, Tony. Well, explain Tommy Tige to me then, because he didn't have a gray hair on his head. Well, maybe there's some performance enhancement going on there. Whoa! I'm just trying to agree.

Great Tommy Tige. I'm trying to be reasonable here. When I saw him that day in the studio, did not look like P.E.D. The day here. When I saw him that day in the studio, did not look like PED. But they either trashed it Tony. Exactly right. All right, we go back out to Jeremy Tashay now.

Jeremy Tashay is reporting live at the Casayas Center where there's a lot of mood and a lot of fans. What's the energy out there, Jeremy? I mean, the energy is palpable, Dan. I've got Trevor from Georgia here with me. Now, Trevor was a fan of the Miami Heat because of Jimmy Butler. So Trevor, what are your thoughts on Jimmy Butler's return

to the Kaseya Center? Oh, I'm excited. I think Jimmy's about to whoop some butt. Okay, that's not good. We're not gonna talk about that any longer. All right, very good. No more conversation of that. Good, good report from. We're calling it the butlar that any longer. Alright, very good. No more conversation of that.

Good report from... We're calling it the butlarm...butlarm again. Just give Trevor the microphone. Dan, that's totally something you would ask... Trevor, here, would you like the microphone? ...Angel to mock up for you. Sure. Please.

I think Jimmy's about to do great. He's not...Bam, ain't going to do anything. He's not bam, ain't gonna do anything. I hope Steph comes out and plays. I'm sorry, Heat, but Jimmy's about to give y'all some whooping. All right. I'm watching the latest area. I'm here outside the Kaseya Center. Jeremy Tache, Metal Lurk Media.

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Now he's just, just playing, nickel back in the locker room and StuGuts They'll play D and show threes as they chase the Nats for the sixth seed These five words in his head scream are we winning games yet This is the Dunn LeBatard show with the StuGuts The LeBatard Show with the Stugarts. You guys must run into like spring breakers all the time down here this time of year. We ran into a few on Saturday. Okay, well, maybe not, maybe not where you live.

But Dan, you, I'm sure you do occasionally. I'm walking my dog and there are these like drunk 20 year olds coming up to us on the sidewalk Saturday night and they're like, oh my God, what a cute dog. And they're like petting her so aggressively. And we're like trying to just like, okay, you're a little intoxicated. It's spring break, we understand. We're gonna keep moving along.

And there's like these like hordes of college kids chasing us down the sidewalk, trying to pet our dog. That is spring break in Miami. It is. Well what they've what they've done to spring break is interesting. We'll go back out to Jeremy in a second but I did see something yesterday that I've never seen and I have to think that no one's ever seen before I saw it because I'm driving and in front of a post office okay where you've got a four lane stretch of traffic, there is a woman who is squatting

in front of the post office, urinating in a bush, trying, but not just that, she's got a yoga mat under one arm, she's got a cigarette in her mouth, and she's holding a sandwich. There's no way, like a sub, there's simply no way that is something that has ever been seen by anybody before.

That, by anybody. When you gotta go. Yeah, let's ask. But, we'll go back out to Jeremy in a second, but I wanna show everybody here, because I need to, I want everyone to understand how much Z low cares about this team i have a photograph from a long time ago now and i don't remember the context exactly of this by a lot but i've been sending

this photograph to jonathan zaslow for is this fifteen years because we can mark the day and on on up before miami heat game when the blueprint was at risk, when everybody was scared, Jonathan Zaslow claimed that he was not scared before a game. And this photograph of Jonathan Zaslow not being afraid, being a Heat fan who would never lose hope and would not be despondent,

this was Jonathan Zaslow very much believing their season was over. That right there is not, it was the worst moment of my sports fandom life at the time. It's now the second worst, but that is right after, that's in the battles of the arena. I just got off doing the post game show, a post game where the Miami Heat lost game five in the Eastern Conference Finals to Boston, and they fell down now three games to two They were going to Boston now for game six. We all know what happened there at LeBron. He had the eyes he win the series amazing But that right there they fell behind three to two and Sedano. I mean like a snake

I'm sitting there with George Sedano. You see I got a beer. I'm several beers deep at this point. And Sedano, he sneaks his phone and snaps a picture and he routinely shares it in a group chat. Very dirty move by Sedano. I didn't even, I mean look at me. Do I look like I'm posing for a picture? You're not consenting. Is that the group chat that you're dancing in?

That's not consent. That's notanses in? That's not consent. That's not consent at all. That's not consent. That seems liable. So, um. You should sue Hollywood Sedano. So like a snake George Sedano now, and that right there at the time,

it's not anymore, it's now the second lowest, but at the time that was the lowest I had ever been over one of my teams, and yes, I thought they were gonna lose. How do you feel about Sedano? Because he was down here when he was here. He's a snake for doing that. Oh, well, a snake for doing that,

but I wanna ask you a little bit deeper. Because down here, he was Mr. Miami Heat. Now he's over LA Hollywood Sedano. He's a big Laker guy. Oh, he's Pacific guy. He's so LA. Yeah, I don't know what to tell you. He's a big time LA guy.

I don't know what to tell you. What are you, no commenting? I'm just saying, I don't know what to tell you. Big time LA guy. You're a big commenter though. What do you, like he's- don't know what to tell you. What are you no commenting? I'm saying I was tell you I'm LA guy. You're a big commenter though. What do you like? You know what to tell us you do time LA guy I know what to tell you in regards to Saddam You know it just makes you wonder did he really like the heat at all while he was down here or not I mean if he's able to flip it that if you were to move if you were to get the big gig ESPN LA they call Zaz as a Zaz low

We need you to come out here to Tinseltown, Hollywood, we need you to be the voice of Los Angeles. No. Really? I'm 305 till I die. Really? Well, you're not. But you're 954.

Yeah, you live in Cooper City. My cell phone's 305, that's what matters. Hmm. You got me, that's true. Well, everybody knows that. I need to tell you guys, this is funny with Z with sad slow because there are a number of things about him that are super curious I Jeremy Tashay is saying that he's got another report that's ready to go I don't know if we should just break into all program every time he's ready. I don't trust his judgment on this

What are you guys laughing about? Have you ever lived in Miami? Of course? I grew up there. I'm from North Miami Beach That's come on now and I'll be senior high what? What What I like North Miami Beach underrated part of the beach. That's good. It is a dog beach up there. Yes You've been North Miami Beach have I been there? Great place sorry to go that flanning, it was so far, my God. That was a high. It was like a trek.

163rd. Orlando, basically. That's not Miami, by the way. It took me an hour and a half to get to that flanning. That's the OG mall, 163rd Street. Yeah. Come on now. What are you doing?

Tell him I know my way. It's OG mall, Dan. Everybody knows. I'm repping 305 is what I'm doing. I don't know what you're doing. What are you doing? Yeah, what are you doing, man? Let's go back out to Jeremy. He is outside of the Miami Heat's arena

Jimmy Butler is approaching and Travis or whatever his name was Reports that Jimmy Butler's here to kick ass. No, Dan. We are not talking about the OG mall or OG Ananobe We're talking about Jimmy Butler here outside the Kaseya Center with Metal Arc Media. I'm Jeremy Tashay and we need to be focusing on the details of this experience. What color will Jimmy Butler's hair be? What color will his shoes be? How petty will he be during the video presentation tonight? Not at the Kaseya Center.

That's not how you Kasey it. It's the Kaseya Center here in downtown Miami reporting live for Metal Arch Media. I'm Jeremy Tachay. He gets a standing ovation today right? Jeremy? No Jimmy Butler like he should. He meant more to this organization than Alonzo Mourning did. Whoa! Wow! Whoa! He led them to more finals did he not? I mean put his ring in a box and then put Jimmy's rings in a box and see which one shakes out more. Eastern Conference finals rings, we have a conversation. Zo came in as a mercenary at the end,

if we're gonna be perfectly honest. He betrayed the Heat, he left, he didn't wanna be here, he had a fit, he left, then he had his medical situation, which is fine. I feel like almost everything you just said is factually incorrect. No, that's not true at all. The only thing that was correct was the medical situation.

He had a medical situation, but he left town, betrayed this team, and then all of a sudden, he comes crawling back when he realizes easy championship. All I have to do is act as a barnacle on this ship over here, this Carnival cruise liner towards the NBA Finals. Is that not what happened? No. He had that block though. That's not what happened?

No, he had that block and he did the freak out on the ground. Great moment, game six, 2006. That block, wow. Just asking. It's done great, he has a school named after him, all the charitable work, all that, but I mean. Terrible traffic on the board.

He kind of betrayed this city. Zoes some groove. Crawling back and all of a sudden we forget about his actions There are things Billy has not been able to say for 20 years, and he's here to say them I'm not saying anything that I'm not allowed to say I will say this the heat fan base very sensitive bunch Anytime I say anything slightly critical of the team they say who hurts you okay? What fan base I want to hear the fan base that is, eh, you know what, they take criticism really well. It's not a criticism. No, but you're saying that when the Heat are criticized, that the fan base is very sensitive.

I want to know the fan base that's like, yeah, you know what, we're good with being criticized, no big deal. Marlin's fans, I feel like, are pretty good. Yeah, I just kind of let it roll right off our backs. I was like, yeah, yeah, we're bad. You're right. We're the worst. Billy was telling me the roster today, I was like, that's not a team. It's gonna be rough. Thursday's gonna be a good example. I was like, yeah, we're bad. You're right. We're the worst. Billy was telling me the roster today. I was like, that's not a team.

It's going to be rough. Thursday's going to be a rough one. Pablo who? Let's go out to Jeremy Tashay and ask him what the Marlins lineup is going to be. He's going to be on sidelines for the Marlins this year. Jeremy, what is the Marlins lineup going to be? Let's go through it right now outside of the Casaya Center,

where Jimmy Butler will soon bring his fury. Yes, Dan, we are looking forward to not only Miami Heat basketball tonight, but a spring training game between the Marlins and the Yankees at Lone Depot Park. You can expect to see the likes of Nick Fortes, Matt Mervis, and Eric Wagaman in the heart of the order for the Miami Marlins reporting live

from outside the Kaseya Center. Jeremy Tachay MetalArc Media. I would like- Mark Mervis? Well, here's the thing, Tony. I'm actually scared to do this to him right now because we're live. But I actually want to quiz him on what the lineup might be. And he's really good. Like he should know, but I'm not totally sure he does.

And that would be a bad position to put him in. Well, he also could just make it up at none of us. Well, that's true too. But then he'd be on live television. Somebody would know. Yeah, the burger guy's not here anymore. No, he's not here anymore. I liked him.

I'll miss him. They made me fall in love with Burger. Yeah, he's a ranger now. Whoa! Skip went over there. I'm not gonna say Skip stole him, but Skip went over there. He's a consultant in Texas,

and all of a sudden, Burger's in Texas. Jessica, I've asked for your help today with some things here, yes, I'm sorry. Should I or should I not ask Jeremy to take a guess at what the Marlins opening day lineup is going to be? I would be surprised if you didn't know. He gave me the Cubs' entire opening day lineup for the game last week.

This is harder though, this is much, much harder. This is... I think a better way of the game is, Jeremy, name the Marlins lineup and we stop you when you made someone up. That's a good idea. Let's do that one. This is like that scene in Major League

where they were building a rocket, like this guy's dead. Cross him often. Okay, Jeremy, what's the final heat report you have for us? The final heat report is that Jessica's heat stroke will have to continue as we will, without a doubt, continue to discuss this Miami Heat team

no matter who is on the roster. Whether it's Matt Mervis, Xavier Edwards, Otto Lopez, or Eric Wagaman, we will see an especially strong Heat team tonight because Dan, as many former players say That is how the cookie crumbles reporting live from outside the casaya center. I'm Jeremy Tachay That was not a report with information in it. Those are all real people Eric Wagman. Yeah Otto Lopez Yeah, I don't Lopez starting second baseman. I donel Lopez is gonna win a gold glove. He is not.

That lineup is a vomit. I mean, in the Marlins defense, Connor Norby is hurt. That's a great sentence. Make that a t-shirt. I'd love a pack of Marlins fans to go to the game with that as their t-shirt. Jeremy, thank you. Hey everybody, it's Mike Ryan and how great is this weather? We're getting out of the coldest

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His colleagues like that snake Sedano because this needs to be talked about right now and I'm gonna betray some confidences here and I'm gonna ask Zazz to walk a little bit of a labyrinth with me here as a rising star at ESPN as he is on ESPN radio already making people like Clinton Yates jealous because they haven't put in the time the way Zaslow has to be a celebrity picker during March Madness. You have gotten to ESPN now and have a rising star, but over your history, a history that has that fandom in it, you have a number of people at ESPN who are now colleagues

that you have excoriated on the air for 15 years like Brian Windhorst that you cannot see in the hallways without it being a problem I would imagine because no one was harder on Brian Windhorst in the regional or national media than you were during the LeBron years. I was not a nice person and he certainly knew about it. I know that he knew about it, all right.

And I knew there was gonna be a reckoning when I started to work at ESPN radio. A day is going to come, because I don't book the guests, like the producers book the guests, you know? And there's gonna be a day where, hey, we're gonna have Brian Windhorst on today, and I'm like, oh crap.

So that day came, you know? And I'm gonna have to deal with this in some fashion And I don't know him personally at all So I have no idea how this is going to go down and I actually sent a text message to another Coworker and I said listen, I don't know how I should handle this Should I call wind horse right now and just be like do a whole me a cult boat or are we just gonna do this on the air but me a cool boy you you meant those things when you said them well yeah yeah well I first of all it was never anything personal ever said anything personal about him did I mean the things where I would say that like he hates the heat and as a bias against me yeah like I meant those at

the time sure I did I didn't know how it was gonna come off on ESPN radio I thought maybe I should call him in advance like hey listen I'm not like a total a-hole You know how many people are there at ESPN that you have to look at the floor when you walk by them because you're afraid They know what you've said well I will say that he was he he was totally good about it. I didn't even have to do a whole deal explaining myself He's very professional. I asked him basketball questions. He answers to the best of his ability. But that was the one where I was like, man, this total pro

always has been. Wind horse has always been a total pro. I'm dopey. He's a total pro. And it obviously showed he's at the top of the list of people. It's like, but how many are there? I will see if we can extract them over the course of. Well, Skip Bayless is not there anymore, so he would be right up there also. Did Wendy know who you were? Definitely. Oh, OK. He knew that my show had him in the Tool of the Week Hall

of Fame, all right? There was a banner hanging in my studio with him hanging from the rafters. Who wouldn't know of the Tool of the Week Hall of Fame? Right. It was sponsored. That's what I'm saying, it was sponsored. So. Who was the sponsor?

Oh, it was a tool shop. Yeah, tool company, yeah. Yeah, tool of the week. No, it was like Harry's tools in Fort Lauderdale. Why do we not do that? Why have we not just stolen that idea? Can we have that? Do you own the IP for that?

Can we buy it from you? No, you can have it. But we have to put up the tools that are already in the tool of the week Hall of Fame, correct? There were four members of the tool of the week. Really? Yeah, four. Like every week we nominated someone, but you had to be really special to get into the Hall of Fame. Four of the four. The four. Well, the inaugural member was Brian Wintour.

Yeah. Okay. He was the inaugural. You gotta remember the times that we're livin' in, all right? It was us against the world, Zaz. No, it was a fun, he would go around the room and everyone would nominate a tool and then I think the fans would call in and they get to choose who it was. And once you were in the Hall of Fame,

you can't nominate that person yet because they're in the Hall of Fame and they would hang from the rafters in our studio. So he was first ballot. Yeah, well no, not much, he was the first inductee. He was in the inaugural class. Who were the other three? Brian Winters, Michael Wilbon.

Oh yeah, well. Michael Wilbon hates the heat. Benny the Bull, come on. And Jeffrey Loria, of course. Yeah, of course. We gotta remember the times. And former Marlin Closer Heathbell. Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah. Those were the four members.

Good class. Well, they were separate classes. We only nominated one at a time. You wanna give proper respect to each. If you could nominate someone right now to be in it, who would it be? Well, this is something that you can't just come up with off the top of your head.

It's not a willy-nilly thing. There's no one off the top of your head that you're like, oh, if you still did this thought I would put him in the tool I put a lot of thought into it and to clarify Benny the Bull is not in the Hall of Fame You call Michael Wilbon Benny the boy used to again you got to remember the times we were living in back then all right It was us against the world like 15 years ago exactly Is your whole life this reality that you've created in your head or just related to work?

I don't understand this reality that I created in my head. Like everything I just told you was factual. It's not like it didn't happen. It wasn't a dream. You against the world, are you? It was us against the world. You don't think it was us against the world? Who's us?

Miami Heat. Look around. Oh, I mean. So Billy is someone that you might consider for the Tool of the Week Hall of Fame. No, I was a Heat, I was out there, Heat lifer. I was wearing a Dwyane Wade jersey. Yeah, I had a Dwyane Wade shirt out there when LeBron signed.

I was celebrating at La Carreta on Bird Road. Again, it's important to understand, I didn't make the, I didn't make the whole, I didn't give the Tools of the Week, it was our listeners, all right. We listened to our audience to the miami fans and then when they're nominated a certain amount of times

they go up in the rafters it's beautiful it's uh... akin to what it is that greg cody would do with the p f p i gala he has a shrine to his fandom and so don't know that snake loves to send the photo around and we all do because that was heat fandom broken which is what people are rooting for tonight nationwide there they are the people who tune in will be doing so to watch Jimmy kick their ass correct that is that that what

is the other thing people are rooting for because what it's not just kick their ass but oh look you remember the 15 years of this team doing it's us against the world well here comes what you've wrought it's leading a team that has actually been a champion the last few years and that storyline is the one that's carrying us today i think you're hoping for a moment as well if you're the national audience certainly if you're tnt you're hoping for a moment where you catch Butler gesturing in the direction of Pat Riley. Like that's, you know, Riley. Like he does like that weeeh, like crying face.

Maybe, you know, Butler and one, and he's just like staring at Riley. Gives him the old like bicep flex over Riley. Some kind of gesture or stare toward Riley is what everyone's going to be wanting tonight. I was hoping for like closure, like maybe an embrace, a handshake, like you know what. So you live in fantasy world. I'm just saying, like we go and we embrace, look we look up and we see like you know the

Eastern Conference finals, banners, and look what we did together and then like you move on. And then good riddance from Green Day plays in the background and everyone's like, Yeah, then tip off and then it's all done. I mean look what we did together. The other day, Jimmy Butler said we didn't do anything. I mean. Literally said we didn't do anything.

Well, he comes in and then he gets the nostalgia and he realizes maybe I spoke out of turn. Was he wrong about that? The standard is winning championships. Yeah, right, I don't have a problem with him saying that because if you ask Pat Riley, Pat Riley would say the exact same thing, that they didn't do anything.

I don't see that way from fan perspective because even like even not winning the title in 2020-2023, those were two of my all-time favorite years as a sports fan. Like it was amazing those runs. It didn't end with the championship. We played in the last game, it did end with the championship, but still like I look back on those two years super fondly. Can we play the sound of Jimmy Butler talking about this? Uh, we was alright. Winning and winning, that's what we were supposed to do. So, we made some cool runs.

We had some fun. I think that's all we did. What do you say that wasn't true there? We had fun, but that's all we did. That's what he say that wasn't true there. We had fun, but that's all we did. That's what you just said. Did they have fun? You know what?

I'd like that on my tombstone. You had fun? We had fun, but that's all we did. Like that's a good life. Conference champions? This was a good marriage, man. Like he can, you could get your heart broken because, oh, he's treating me. He's not respecting me as the ex lover. You could you could say man that was a wild ass fling that

was fun when he goes again never seen it before in my life zero forty-point games his entire career eight of them in the postseason what the hell is that and you're not even that good of a three-point shooter like what the hell is that forty-point games i i just saw andrew wiggins put up forty two and roads were minded oh yeah that's a number one pick. That's a champion. That's the player that they thought they were trading for and then 11 game losing streak. It was the second greatest five year stretch

in the history of the franchise. Wendy should put on his tombstone, tool of the week, hall of famer. Wow. I think that's what he should have on his tombstone and Dan on yours you should put we had fun. I don't know who the we is but. I had a source, Zaslow, tell me that you had special imaging

where you ripped Aaron Goldhammer. Oh yeah. And you now do a show with Aaron Goldhammer. Another now coworker. Yeah. Yeah, the first show I ever did on ESPN radio was with him and I'm like, oh, that's gonna be fun. I was brutal to him.

Here's the thing, Cleveland, me, don't really mesh. That's what it was back then. And yes, we were very mean. My show was very mean back then to Cleveland and anyone associated with Cleveland. But Cleveland and you don't mesh, you're giving off right now in gear Daytona Beach. Why?

This is something someone from Daytona Beach wears? Big Heath fans up there. I'm just saying in general, your- This is what you wore for like 20 years on TV, a flat brim hat and a sports shirt. Not backwards though. I would never go backwards. Well no, never backwards.

I would never do it backwards. Because it's my look, it's not your look, it's my look. Billy, what have we kept you from saying for 20 years? Because you've got- Nothing, I'm just talking. Pat Riley can say that he'd accomplished nothing and then if I say it all of a sudden I'm a pariah and who hurt you? And it's like I'm literally just repeating

what the Godfather said and all of a sudden I'm out of line. I don't understand it. Billy has felt not the ability to speak freely about Pat Riley. No, it's not Pat Riley. We talked about it. There's talking points in the media, right?

And the media just gives everybody all these talking points and the fan base just believes all the talking points that the media is fed by the machine over there across the street. And then if you dare say anything against, you know, the talking points, you're out of line and who hurt you? And it's like, I'm just telling you, they didn't win the championship. Oh, how dare you. We played in the last game of the year.

Is that what I sounded like when I said it? That's what I sound like. I'm not saying you. I would never say you. So those are the words came out of my mouth. No, you sounded like this. Awesome. So I've been trying to be a little healthier here at the start of the year.

I didn't exactly do that through a lot of last year, and it's really important to find the right ways to be able to eat and exercise. And if you're ready to optimize your nutrition this year, Factor has chef-made gourmet meals that make eating well easy. They're dietitian approved and ready to heat in just two minutes, so you can fuel and feel great,

no matter what life throws at you. Factor arrives fresh and fully prepared, perfect for any active busy lifestyle like those of us in the shipping container. But with 40 options across 8 dietary preferences on the menu each week, it's easy to pick meals tailored to your goals. Choose from preferences like Calorie Smart, Protein Plus, or that keto diet. Reach your goals this year with ingredients you can trust

and convenience that can't be beat. And guys, I can tell you this from my own personal experience, the honey mustard chicken meal is absolutely delicious. It literally tastes like you're going to a restaurant. I've really been enjoying Factor Meals. Eat smart with Factor. Get started at factormeals.com slash Dan50off and use code Dan50off to get

50% off your first box plus free shipping. That's code Dan50off at FactorMeals.com slash Dan50off to get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box.