The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Here's the Thing About Gold

Episode Date: January 10, 2024

Erik Spoelstra signed a contract with the most committed money in NBA coaching history (8 years, $120+ million), but David Samson somehow made the conversation about Spo's divorce and how much money he'll have to give up. Then, finding gold under your house, using "Heat" singularly, Aaron Rodgers, and the Marlins hire of Rachel Balkovec. Plus, Dan argues on behalf of the old people who won't be able to find Peacock for the Dolphins-Chiefs game this weekend, and David explains what's happening with Amazon, Bally Sports, and MLB over digital rights. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunluba Tarshou with the Stugots Podcast. Stugots, I was gonna start with David Samson and talking to him about the eight year $120 million contract that Eric Spulstra just signed. Yep. But right before I was going to do so, Billy tells me that he's thinking about becoming a briefcase guy. We're gonna get to that as well.

And Chris Cody tells me, and this one was infuriating. This is exactly how not to executive produce right before the microphones go on. He says to me, in my ear, hey, Dan, Samson was on Cinephile with Adnan talking about the golden globes and you were right. They're really good together. Then why are they so rarely together?

Is the question that I would ask you, because it's something I've wanted for the better part of three years. Very fair point. Chris is just finding this out though. No, but it's not Chris. Chris cannot say with a straight face, he cannot say that I have not been in his ear for a long time, saying put these two chemicals together, it will be fun, explosive, and will have more information about the golden

globes than anyone on earth actually wants. Because the two of them have, you and he share commonalities here. Here you guys could talk forever, correct David? And we did. And I'm not even sure Chris was there during the taping yesterday actually. I edited it though after, so I listened to it. Where you with me?

No, I was doing the show. It was in show. You actually, we don't need to talk about it, but there was a slight audio issue with the Zoom yesterday. So you might hear the shipping container sporadically through the ad-nan. Just in the background, it's like people are having a conversation issue with the Zoom yesterday. So you might hear the shipping container sporadically through the adnan. Just in the background,

it's like people are having a conversation like 10 feet away from adnan and Samson. You gotta keep that one on the vest. Like, don't say that one, let people think, oh, I think I heard something, but I think there's people talking around me. I don't know. You gotta let that one go.

Were you trying to edit it out as a producer and just couldn't? There was nearby ambient sound of a condensation that had nothing to do with a professional body. I know the way this looks. Everyone's gonna think that this was just my fault. I had Byram, his head was exploding because we were testing my zoom after the mistake happened.

I had to read, I had to delete zoom and read. It was a zoom mistake. It wasn't my mistake. I tested it afterwards to make sure and Byram can confirm this. I know everyone's thinking right now. Well Billy's shaking his head. If I saw the way Biram was interacting with you

and it was kind of like when you're like, you know, a little kids explaining to you, like, no, a monster, like, ate this. And you're like, oh, okay, a monster. I'm telling you, don't make me get Biram on the air. I was not wrong here. It was not my mistake. It was a technical error.

Don't make you, I mean, Danny GQ, and his head was like, wait, what? How could that possibly happen? That's exact, but that's the part I think you're misreading. I think that they don't believe your story when they're like, how could that possibly happen? No, because Billy, we did a Zoom afterwards. I was like, let's try it again and see if it happens again

and it happened the exact same way where I muted my Zoom and yet my computer still picked up sound. All right, so at least you didn't ruin this show also by talking about this too much. I thought it would draw attention to it. Now people are going to go want to check out who would it sound like? Is it, is it, is it? Our computers are spying on us and Chris found it by mistake in a zoom.

We knew that. Yeah, no, but now confirmed because Chris's computer was recording everything that was going on even though he muted it. Wait, Chris. When does the show come out? It's out. Chris, you are turning your bad production into a positive, saying people will go look for it. They'll seek it out.

I am turning Zoom's mistake into a virus. You're a modern day Christopher Columbus. Thank you. Accidentally stumbled across. No, accidentally stumbled across the continent when he was trying to find something else. I don't like this sarcastic tone, because it implies that the mistake was actually really mine.

Okay, is it also Byron's fault that this show has now started with two minutes of this talk and the balance in the file. Samson segment. Samson, the Eric's bolster, we'll get to brief cases, Billy, because I want to get your thoughts on this, but the bolster contract, what did you make of that? He don't usually do that stuff where they announce an extension with actual figures. That's not something that they go about doing very often. So I was surprised to see this

and the timing was interesting too for reasons I'm sure you noticed. Well, it's hard. Everybody noticed that this was announced. He's got it, this is the last year of his deal. So it's a nice contract to give. He's got the most money, the biggest contract ever. Not the highest paid per year,

but the most guaranteed money. And it gets announced and done after his divorce is over. And I'm sorry to talk about that, but it's not a coincidence. And I think anyone around the business of sports has been a part of this where a player has come up to us or a coach or a staff member saying, hey, I'm in the middle of a divorce,

can we not do our contract until my divorce is over? And as an executive, my answer was always the same. Hey, we're going to do it when we do it. And you better take care of your business now. Because if you think that you're going to sign a big contract for $100 million, two weeks after a divorce is finalized, and that your ex is not going to have something to say about it, that just means that your ex has bad lawyers.

So I understand what Eric may have been trying to do, what the heat may have been trying to do, but I assume his wife wasn't born yesterday. I assume this doesn't come as a major surprise to anybody on either side, but I'm happy for Eric, but I feel for what he's going through, but it is awesome seeing the pictures of him as video coordinator now as the highest notionally paid coach ever.

It's amazing. Are you sorry to bring up the divorce? No. I feel bad for what he's going through, but I'm just going to point out all the uncomfortable things. Yeah, because there's other interesting stuff here. Do you feel bad for what is going through now i can relate to it i don't feel badly for it you just said it all

it'll be all it all is said it's true it it seems like something that you said there was less than honest like that all of the things you just said cannot be true you did you just pay lip service lit legitimate lip service to, yeah, I'm supposed to say here that I'm sorry to point out the divorce and I'm supposed to stay here that I feel terribly for people getting divorced, but I'm a loveless person. I didn't say that. Oh, I said he is.

Okay, I'm correction, correction. I'm correction. You know what? I apologize. You're not a loveless person. You love content. So you know what I mean? At least you found love there.

That's worse. You're killing me. So it's a very interesting business question is when a deal gets finalized and this happens not just in divorce, happens when you sell a house. What happens if you sell a house and all of a sudden gold is discovered under the house? Do you get to keep that gold or does the former owner of the house have a claim to that gold that was reasonably known or could have been known to have been in there

but it not been discovered prior to the sale. Any thoughts on that? You have to find the gold during the time that you live in the house. Otherwise, it's the next person's gold. No, but he's saying in the interim. He's saying, you're asking the question as a hypothetical, you're in the process of selling your house.

You have sold your house to a greed and principle to terms, but haven't actually signed the paperwork and now you find gold under your house. And the question is who gets the gold? The gold, isn't it? What is the value assigned to it and how do you split that? And so there are things that you do in a contract when you have a sports figure, whether it's a coach or a player, everybody publicly knows the terms of your deal and the, but it doesn't matter because in a divorce there's something called discovery where Eric's

bolster is wife gets to see everything about Eric's bolster's life. And she knows through her lawyers that his contract, what it is with the heat, she gets a copy of it if she hadn't seen it before, all the provisions, she knows what every other coach is getting paid, and then she knows what he can expect to get paid as a quote unquote free agent coach. So he signs this deal. Does she not get a part of that as part of what his total estate is that gets split upon his divorce? Is he fooling anybody with this extension? The timing and the announcement is bizarre to me.

Is it possible that he did, and this is where maybe there's a little personal knowledge in here? Is it not, not of him, but of other people? Is it possible that he did a global settlement where he gave her $x dollars and that's the end of it and he can go, find whatever gold he wants from the heat, he can get ownership of the heat, or he can find $10 million hidden under his home and his wife doesn't get that. All of those things are possible. But I think the time in his interesting,

but from a basketball standpoint, is he the greatest coach of all time? Is that why he deserves that amount of money? And I had a hard time saying no to that and that surprised me. I aired here in not playing the reckless speculation sound. Time to throw away gold, your realistic credibility and get reckless. Here is something we like to call reckless speculation. You're good. Well, it's a little late. All of that.

He already made the whole thing. I know, but I had to say it. Would you guys want to find gold? Because like, finding gold scene, here's the thing about gold. Gold is for the most part marked or stamped, right? So you can't, you need to have a plan of how you're going to melt it down and reform the gold so that you lose that. And if you find treasure, it's always going to be like

Spain claims that belongs to the castle or whatever, like the royal family. There's no gold that's Spain claims that belongs to like the castle or whatever, like the royal family. Oh, there's no gold that's out there that is unclaimed. Like this idea of we're gonna find treasure and I'm gonna keep it and be rich, doesn't exist unless you have like someone on the black market that you can kind of melt down the gold and the jewels and sell it through.

How about any Cuban jewelry that has a meltter in the back that you can just go to, yeah, Bobby, go ahead. I'm just saying. You kind of a little piece, I said. If you find gold and David, maybe you know about this, I don't know. But if you find gold or money, you can't just like flaunt it.

Like you need to live in poverty. You can't, if you find a $150,000 in cash, you have to turn it in because someone's gonna come looking for it. And if you turn it in, they're like, here's a $400. I'm gonna get it. Find your feet. No, that's how it works.

That's how it works. Find your feet. Find your feet. You can't flaunt it. You can't flaunt it because then people are gonna be like, we're at all that money going from. It's going right in my closet. And then that's the thing.

You need to do it like that. But the person that lost it, if it was in the house before you, they're gonna know they lost that money and they're gonna come looking for it. So if you find 150K in a briefcase on the street, that's what you're referring to, that you're gonna return the briefcase and you're gonna hope for a reward.

Well, he might return the money and keep the briefcase. Yeah, I have to tell him, like you guys, I just want the briefcase. Yeah, exactly right, free briefcase for Square. We're good here, little scratch for Daddy, we're good. Stugats here. For my friends over at SimplySafe and telling you about them for years, why I have had their home security system in my house for many, many years, protecting both me and my family,

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you some Spanish something is going to come and go that was ours we lost that give it back to us now thank you we have failed both the heat and air expulsion and how we've discussed this for 10 minutes. Because to me, the story is a guy from the video room. A guy works his way up through the stability of an organization learning at the knee of a legend who is now a bit of a Yammer, Eric Spolstra is somebody who's clearly in line to run this franchise, not just his coach, in whatever incarnation the franchise looks. My guess is they're making promises to him about having power beyond coaching. It's a great story.

It'd be like Lewis rising all the way up to your level. I mean, that's what it would be like Seriously video room to running the company. It's a fantastic amazing story And he is the best coach in the NBA. There's no question about it for my money You don't know because he gets the most out of the least hopefully I'll find so I well it's because he's evolved It's because he's done it with a variety of different Oh different ways different look I went to the dentist yesterday. I'm gonna tell this story.

No, later, and the advancements in dentistry showed me that your dentists need to evolve. The rare dental teeth, I mean. That's right, I've got dentists. I'm locked in though. Not now, I can't wait. Coming up in the 10 o'clock hour. It's a good story.

It didn't went to the dentist. It's a good story. I'm promising you to the dentist. It's a good story. I'm promising you that I learned something. I had my eyes opened yesterday. I did not know that the dentist could be a pleasant experience like a spa. Didn't know that they have gotten. Yes.

Now I'm intrigued. See? Now you want, you don't even want me to tease it for later. You want me to tell you what it is. It's been a while, for me. But no, he's evolved, David. He hasn't gotten stuck in his ways. He clearly can win with an assortment of different parts.

And he's clearly making parts that we don't think anything of better. I don't know who else you would go with. I mean, Pop would get the most of the attention there, but we've seen the last couple of years what happens when Pop has some Gabe Vincenze. The highest paid coach right now I believe is Monty Williams, but that is regular speculation. I believe he is the highest. No, that's right The Pistons coach makes $78.5 million guarantee they're three and 34. That's correct

Is this a situation like quarterbacks in the NFL where like every coach is gonna be the next highest paid coach. Not every not every coach, but Monte Williams in Detroit, they had to incentivize it in order to eat. I mean, I mean, told us they didn't even want a coach, but it became so much money that he had to. So he set the standard and then Eric's bolster signs for this. Before David, we didn't know the salaries of coaches. When and how did that change? Well, internally, we always knew as industries, you're you're given actually a survey. When you hire a coach, you're sort of told where that coach should slide in according

to the years of experience and sort of what the ceiling would be. That's why everyone was so angry when the Cubs gave counsel what he got or when Monty Williams got what he got. We got in trouble when we gave Ozzy Game, what we gave Ozzy Game in terms of years and money. We overpaid, it's funny you guys think we didn't pay enough, we overpaid for a manager and got in trouble for it. And I think it's them and their agents trying to extract more money thinking that they are

responsible for the success of the team. Is Eric's post responsible or is it the person who gives Eric's post for the players? That's the question that is the eternal question. of the team. Is Eric Spolstrom responsible or is it the person who gives Eric Spolstrom the players? That's the question that is the eternal question. Well, the stability, though, I want to talk about the stability because you shrug your shoulders, David, but there's not a lot of precedent for guy being with organization long enough. Now, when I say guy, I mean Pat Riley, too. I don't mean just Spolstrom to even make the climb because organizations have so Riley too. I don't mean just Spolstra to even make the climb because organizations have so much turnover

that you don't have the same voice all the time. This has been 30 years of the same voice. It is a unique example. I think people in Miami don't realize the combination of Spolstra and Riley and Riley specifically what he's done for the amount of years, it's unheard of. It's truly amazing.

He didn't have this with the Lakers or the Knicks. He's a heat. He's actually, if Pat Riley, Hall of Fame, he's a heat, which is hard to imagine given that are there people in Miami you don't realize he was the coach of the Showtime Lakers? I guess there probably are, which blows my mind. He should be known as a Laker guy or a Nick guy. But he's a heat. He should be known as a Laker Guy or a Nick Guy. But he's a heap. He's a weird thing to say. Do the He'd have the strangest name in all sports?

And that like when you say someone's a heat. The singular ones are tough. He's a jazz, doesn't work either. He's like me on Hebelanch. He's a magic. All right, they all say. I did. I think that the He'd suffer though.

I think you talk about continuity and turnover. I like turnover a little bit. I had too much, but I think the heat have too little. I think new voices become important. I think there's a staleness. You're seen it a little with golden state. I think that Steve Kerr's gotten a little bit stale. And I think that eventually you have to make a change.

David, if you're running the New York Jets, what do you do with Aaron Rogers? What do you do with Rogers appearances on Pat McAfee every week? What do you do with all of that? I ask Rogers to stop and I think it's going to stop anyway. I think ESPN will tell McAfee that next season Rogers can't do it. And I think that Rogers will have an easy landing by saying I'm playing again. I don't want to take the time each week. I want to prepare for my opponents. And I think McAfee then gets an easy landing saying that, hey, you know, he's busy doing other things.

We've moved on. And then Jimmy Kimmel gets to be told he got a victory that Rogers is no longer a guest on a Disney show. So I think that everybody wins in that scenario. And I think if you're Woody Johnson, it's too late. You know this, too. What Aaron Rogers won. He won with Robert Salon Douglas, not getting fired

because that's what Rogers wanted. And for whatever reason, Woody Johnson thinks that Rogers is gonna be a Super Bowl quarterback again. As a Jets fan, do you actually think that he's gonna be good enough to bring your team into January next year? I think it'll be good, but David, I understand what you're saying. They're so desperate.

That organization is so desperate. They're allowing a 40-year-old coming off and a kill-ease tear to run their organization. It's ludicrous. Well, but you should be as a fan. You should be fed up. And at some point, you've got to take your fandom out for a walk because of the way that you...

Why is it that people are willing to walk away from the Marlins, let's say? But you're not willing to walk away from the Jets. With what exactly have you had as a benefit of being a JET fan recently? Uh, nothing. I mean, for 40 years, not recently. 40 years, I've had absolutely nothing. Zilch.

I've said the same thing about the dolphins. Right. The dolphins, Greg Cody was saying that they could win their first playoff game Saturday since 2000. Mm-hmm. There's people who are born and are now off out of college already. They've never seen one playoff win.

That's not a success. The cold in Kansas City's, Stugots, for this dolphin game. You talk about a bad break. It's going to be one of the coldest football games ever played. As Tony said, as he walked in here today, it's going to be negative zero. You know, I was looking for a number and then zero popped up. I don't know why. I mean, they'll have to suck it up. Raiders, Browns, 1981, 1981 Dan they played with windshield negative 36. I mean come on. That's bombing negative zero Negative zero with 10 mile to 20 mile per hour wins

Seems a bad recipe for accurate flutter balls thrown by your quarterback Those those things don't seem good somebody will play sleeve sleeveless, right? Somebody of course. Yes, offensive lineman. Don't they? Barrios Barrios put it on the pole. Please at let me talk show is Barrios going to play sleeveless and negative zero weather I've got Christian Wilkins like going out pregame shirtless. I can see him doing No, just you got to get the foot, like just for the video, just for the internet.

It appears Buffalo fans are claiming that Christian Wilson Awilkins is a sexual harasser that he is a serial Josh Allen penis grabber. He's a honker? He's a honker. He appears to be a honker. There are multiple videos of Josh Allen getting enraged because someone has honked his nether region. That's right. You're in a pile. You got that push push going. You're trying to get in there and

all the feeling. Whoa. Where is the line? I mean, push push. Don't they wear cups? How can you grab nobody wearing a cup? Nobody were where's cups gets in the way, David. Yeah. Can you tell me, David anything about the marlin's hiring Rachel balkovich to be the farm director of director first woman affiliated manager comey the significance of the higher it's it's seems to me that this will be a power position will it not

so i want to explain what a farm director actually does it's a very administrative position. You are not doing a lot of evaluating. You're the one in charge of all of the different managers and hitting coaches and strength people and you're in charge of figuring out and coordinating with the travel people where players are at what level. So it's a very, very administratively heavy position. And I understand why the Marlins did it.

They wanted to hire a woman having gotten rid of Kimming, and so they wanted to look progressive. I love the fact that there's an opportunity, but I wanna make sure that people don't excuse. I want there to be another woman GM who's a player, personnel person, of course, but as an administrative form director, it's an important role.

But the other hires that the Marlins have made who are evaluating talent and deciding who the players are going to be, who are put in the farm, the people running the draft, those are going to be the difference makers that help your organization get better. Farm director, while it's it's a sexy position, it's being misrepresented at the moment, that's the second most powerful person in the organization. And that is absolutely untrue. You said, look progressive.

Why do you choose that as the verb versus being progressive? I think that teams are very interested now more so in looking progressive than being progressive. So you're going to do the same thing that you did with Kim Eng, and it seems like you were right on that when she left the organization at least in part because I think the power wasn't as real as it should have been uh... you're saying you call it as it should have been you call it to be no you called it i wash no she was the general she was the general manager she she she what do you mean should have been

that what do you have what are you correct in there she's supposed to have a position of real power. Not a position that looks like it's real power. And I pointed out it wasn't. And you're saying the same thing about this? No, no, no, farm directors are for, very, I love my farm directors. I just think it's been misrepresented.

What farm directors do, so I wanted to try to educate your audience what a farm director does. But did they hire the right person or did they do it for appearances? That's kind of a... We're asking. Very likely an appearance hire who could be the right person. Okay. I have no idea if you've never been involved in the administration of running a minor league system,

it's damn hard. So I would look for the Marlins to hire a very strong assistant farm director who will be very helpful in the mechanics. I don't know how to express to how hard it is to run a farm system. There's so many moving parts that happen every day during the season, because you're not just managing the big league team and guys who are coming back and forth.

Think about guys who have to start in single A, who then come from low season A, and then someone has to go to double A so you're managing rosters. It's a huge administrative burden. Samson, stay there. We'll be right back with you in a second. Don LeBotard.

Oh, I like firing people. So I take the opportunity to fire whenever I possibly can because I can use it as a learning experience for them and try to help them out and try to point out what they did wrong. But in this case, the employee was enough levels below where I was that I did not do the firing, but I had it done within moments of discovery. I'm just like firing people. It's absurd.

It's absurd. Still gots. I'm talking about people who I fire, who deserve it, who have done something that actively requires me to fire them. It is my unadulterated pleasure to do so. This is the Don Lebertar Show with a Stugats! I have a question for you guys, because I don't know the answer to what I'm about to ask. When the Dolphin's Chiefs game arrives on Saturday, how many people in South Florida who

are Dolphin fans aren't going to know how to get to peacock to get the game? How many Dolphin fans are going to think, hey, I've got a game today, playoff game, I'm excited, and now they have to do the mechanics of what do I do next? I don't have peacock, where's the game, why can't I find the game? How much of that is gonna happen this weekend?

First of all, it's on locally down here, but dolphin fans, not in South Florida, will have this issue, but I think you guys sound super old yeah i think at this point most people either have peacock or know how to get it i have to like my dad would struggle but there is a demographic out there it's not i know how to find i don't know i know how to find the game but i don't think it's just i don't you say most people know and you'd be right but not everyone necessarily has the means to be necessarily subscribing to a playoff game That's different question.

That they expect to be free. It is a different question, but it's a question of you thought you were gonna watch something on television for free. You're used to watching it on for free and now you can't get it and now you have to either get a free trial or a subscription. And I'm guessing peacock's not doing a whole lot of free trials for just this game. The free trial is such a dangerous game because you get it for seven days, you forget to cancel it before the seven days is not the next thing You know your credit card is charged a lot of money. It's a dangerous game. I you make fun of me and I understand But I'm not saying this is a problem for me But if it's a problem for the poor and the old that's part of the NFL's audience too

I mean, but it's the same thing as Thursday night football on prime. the old that's part of the NFL's audience to I mean But it's the same thing as Thursday night football on prime. Yeah, that's correct Which only one night had like 10 million viewers because they've eaten up some of their audience by doing it that way It's also like some games are just NFL network exclusive games or some games are on ESPN If you don't have cable you can't watch ESPN like that's just part of the cable deals. What are you shaking your head about, David? I just can't understand, are you are gonna be half of people who use rabbit ears? I'm just asking how many people are gonna have difficulty

with a transitional time and how sports are consumed? It's been going on for years. So no, and by the way, it's a benefit in your market. So I assume you knew what Chris said before you asked your question But all the people that you're claiming or having you know money issues in Miami They don't have to get peacock this weekend. Palm Beach does oddly. It's like they're doing Not brownie. Yes. Yeah, but Browards not Miami Monroe counties not Miami It's weird afforded. It's just weird that that's where the cuz they're like these three counties, but not Palm Beach So you guys

And tell our people in Palm Beach you guys are tap put it on the pole. Please that LeBetshow show Are there any poor people in Palm Beach? You guys don't believe this will be a number in the hundreds or the thousands of people who are having Difficulty finding that dolphin game. Of course it will yeah, I heard a lot of people just complaining about it. Not necessarily not knowing how to do it, but just like, why do I got it? But to me, it's like five years ago, you were paying how much for Comcast where you got all the channels, and now you gotta just break it up a little bit.

It's just, I mean, maybe it's first world problems, and I'm showing my privilege here, but it's just, it is. But it's like, you were spending money, I want, like a lot of money in one spot on all your channels, and now they just break it up. Now it's $10.00. Instead of $180 a month to Comcast,

now it's $14.00 here, $9.00, $8.00, $6.00 here. Dude, Comcast got, I don't know about you, man. My Comcast got expensive. Wouldn't you get that sports package? I feel like it's a lot more than $180. What's wrong? Oh, I think so. That's my point.

You're proving my point. It was more than $180.00 you were spending before and now people are complaining because they got to spend $7 in 10 spots. Well, they're also complaining because they don't know how to find it. Yes, they do. No, they don't. Your dad does not.

But my mom does. Okay. Most people have another old person that kind of knows. Most people don't, like, there's not a lot of Uncle Dix out there that are just like, I have no clue about any of this. All right, put it on the poll as well. Are a lot of Uncle Dix out there that are just like I have no clue about any of these. All right, put it put this on the pole as well. Are a lot of grandchildren gonna be called on Saturday and asked how to find a peacock.

I mean, you do not know how to use the internet. You just Google peacock, dolphins game. How do I do it? I'm most places we even like if you go to the NFL, I'm sure they have a link straight to it. So if you had to give a number for how many people in America who are looking for this game. 83,000. Wow, I go higher. That's a lot. straight to it. So if you had to give a number for how many people in America who are looking for this game? 83,000. Wow. I go higher.

That's a lot. Yeah. Do you have any other thoughts on this subject, David? I'm just laughing at the demographic that you are trying to protect here. And it's, the NFL doesn't care about them. And you're so upset that they don't. But it's such big business putting this game.

It's not a mistake that the chiefs are on peacock. This is a very purposeful decision. Are you trying to shame me for caring about the poor? Voice of the poor. I'm not shaming you. I'm just laughing at all the people who can't find you now. You're talking to people who have all made the effort to find you and your voice right now. And you don't do a lot to care about those who can't find you now. You're talking to people who have all made the effort to find you and your voice right now, and you don't do a lot to care about those who can't find your voice. Oh, but do you know how many of them can't find it anymore because of what I'm wearing?

I meet people all the time. They're like, you guys used to be on, huh? It's like, I just tell them, yeah. If you don't know where we are, I think you never saw any of it. Why do you think I'm asking the question? Because I think YouTube's pretty easy to find. I had a conversation with someone a couple months ago that lives in Connecticut.

They're like, oh, I had no idea that you work. Like, you had an office so close to where we live. Like, next time you're in town, like, let me know. We can go out for, like, to eat or drink. I'm like, yeah, next time I'm there, I'll let you know. What about your dad, Dan? He's like, right in the demo. Is he going to be able to watch the game?

Yes, probably because you or your wife helped him at some point. Yeah, but on CBS, he can watch it down here. And as you pointed? Yes, probably because you or your wife helped him at some point. Yeah, but on CBS, he can watch it down here. And as you point it out, I know what I'm saying. That's a good point. I'm just saying hypothetically, if your dad lived in Palm Beach, your dad's got peacock figured out at this point, no?

Are we not supposed to have events as society? I don't understand. People generally don't like change. Guys, you guys are missing the point. The point is the NFL is making everything they can in their in their universe to get all the swiftees to go out and purchase peacock. Correct. As a as a partner for the NFL. The NBC is like, you know what? NBC probably decided we want to get peacocks. NFL has the final say though, Billy. Well, if it's

probably an NFL, it's NBC game that they've assigned to peacock. It's not that crazy though, like months ago, like when there was meetings of like playoff games, where's going to be what? peacock was just like, can we get the chiefs? Yeah. Like, I could see like they're having a meeting of being like, who do we want here for this peacock game? Uh, she's a Roger's jet. Ooh.

Yeah, chiefs swift. I think they just said not the Texans in TTY or TJ. Yeah, well, they have that game too. That games on NBC and G.D. So versus Joe Flacco. That's a big one. Put it on the pole. Please, Jude, you at Levitage show. Do you like change? Yes or no? Because I would say most people don't like, would you pay for the bucks and eagles? If you had to, would you? If you had to. You are had to would you if you had to you are paying for it

if you had to go find it on peacock to the seven day free trial would you do it that's all I'm asking you have an ESPN plus account to have that game. I'm just trying to find the one game this weekend you wouldn't be willing to do anything for I mean you looked that there isn't one and that's the NFL's point. All right. The point is that the number of people who will choose not to go to peacock is to Minimus and that is exactly why they do a deal like that. And they get to prove with the Thursday night numbers from this year and you say, Dan, that you sneezed at those numbers. Those numbers on peacock, they were bigger than over the air world series games or NBA finals games. Oh, but that's significant.

No, no, no, but that's cheating. Yes, there's significant numbers. Yes, because football is king, but they're not, they are, they are low football numbers. I, I don't know about anybody else in our audience, but that bill's Chargers game might as well have not been played because I don't know anybody who was watching it on, on peacock. 12 million people is not nobody. It may be nobody you know, but the NFL looks at that package, at the Amazon package, and they look at the growth this year,

and they're trying to figure out exactly how much more money they're going to get from doing more streaming packages going forward, because like it or not, John Skipper went on the sporting class and told you that the Super Bowl will eventually be behind a paywall. And people thought that it was,

he was basically telling you that, you know, Jesus didn't exist. But it's exactly what's happening. And we're watching it happen. And NBC salivates at the idea of having a game on peacock because to got this point, you just forget to cancel it. So now you have all these subscribers that are just not paying attention to the fact

that they're losing 6.99 a month or whatever it is. A lot of people do remember. Oh, Billy, I think it's not that. I think when people go to peacock, what the hope is, is that it's people who had not been there and they say, wow, look, I wanna watch that show. I hadn't watched that show in so long.

It's worth it for me to keep the 7.99 because look at all the other stuff I'm getting on peacock. That's you're hoping to convert people not to fool them. A lot of people do remember though on Monday this whole, our whole office was celebrating Red Zone cancellation day. Yeah. I've been sure to tell everyone remember to cancel it. $9.99 a month for a channel that doesn't exist for six months. I'm pretty sure, can you look this up for me by quarter?

I'm pretty sure peacock lost more money than all of the streaming services. I believe they were the big money loser. Look up the numbers for me on that, please. Amazon is offering or has offered 150 million to help the bank run, the bank rupt RSNs and Major League Baseball has said no. Can you explain to people, briefly David, the RSN problem that we have and why baseball would say no here?

Oh, this is a good one. I touched on this on this morning. It's nothing personal where you can wherever you get your podcasts or on YouTube You're supposed to promote that down by the time I don't know how you find that. How do you find it? I don't know how it's funny wherever you get a podcast you can do it or YouTube Which is where people are watching right now live. Can I get it on board? We're just not on max yet, and we're not on DraftKings Network yet, but who knows, maybe one of these days.

Let's talk about the RSNs and streaming, because this is all about streaming, and you said something slightly wrong that I want to correct. MLB does not have the right to say no, to Amazon, bind some of the debt or paint down some of the debt of the Bally's company. They're the one whose chapter 11 reorganizing bankrupt.

MLB is a creditor through its teams that have these network deals, these regional sports network deals. So MLB can say what they would prefer, but it's a judge who makes the decision. So MLB cannot just say no to Amazon. What Amazon's trying to do, bless their soul. They're trying to get the streaming rights to all these regional sports networks around the country without paying baseball. They want to get it through bankruptcy. It's like going to buy a car through bankruptcy

or a house and foreclosure. And MLB is saying, no, no, we want all the digital rights to all of our teams, package them together like MLS did, like the NFL does, and then we'll sell it to you Amazon, which means Amazon will pay more money for it. So that's really what's happening behind the scenes, and that's why they delayed the hearing that was supposed to happen Friday,

because they're negotiating. And what they're negotiating. And what they're negotiating is what baseball is going to get for the digital rights to these teams because as we've talked about on the show now, it's all about digital rights now. That is the whole game. Nothing personal, as he mentioned, is the name of the podcast. It is every morning live on YouTube at 8 a.m.

Thank you, David. We will get to your movie next week. I promise we will get to your review next week. Thank you, sir Speaking of Amazon. I saw this the other day Amazon is and this is not surprising now giving you the option of no commercials if you pay $299 extra a month Otherwise Otherwise, you're going to have to eat the commercials. You guys have gotten to the point where you don't want any commercials with what makes me want you. I'll pay $2.99. Three bucks. I hate when they enter movies with commercials. That's the worst. Go pee-pee. That's the worst.

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