The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: How DARE You Pray Like That?

Episode Date: April 10, 2024

Today's cast: Dan, Stugotz, Billy, Jeremy, JuJu, Lucy, and Tony. Dan says we finally have people in the building who can talk Women's College Basketball as we welcome Lucy, our Iowa Despondent, and Ju...Ju back to the show! Did Lucy force a Meadowlark Media employee to pray on Iowa's behalf? Why didn't it work? As a result, Stugotz delivers his Top 5 Athletes Who Connote Prayer. Then, JuJu and Tony dive into hip-hop beef and what Dan get wrong about it yesterday. Plus, as David Samson joins the show, we discuss his tour and develop a new show for him and JuJu with a very creative name. Will Stugotz get in on the pay day? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:09 This is the Don LeBattor Show with the Stugats Podcast. Today's episode is sponsored by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours. Finally, some people are in the building who can talk college basketball. Women's college basketball.
Starting point is 00:01:35 What do you mean? Juju and Lucy are here. Lucy is in despair. Juju, you've seen this. Lucy is hurting. She is in so much pain because of what happened to Caitlin Clark because... No, not just Caitlin, Kate, Gabby, the whole squad, Molly Davis. Put some respect on their names, Dan. She's broken. Stokie and them girls. Oh, Hannah, I love her.
Starting point is 00:02:08 girls. Oh Hannah I love her. Lucy you're our Iowa correspondent and we are three days late. Despondent. Our Iowa despondent. You are our Iowa despondent and we are three days late to you giving us the kind of emotion around here that we did not have. We had plenty of analysis. All of a sudden everybody around here is an expert on how Kim Monke does her job job everybody can get her all sorts of coaching strategies but what we didn't have around here was a genuine emotional link to not at look man those nineteen million people a lot of them are casuals like they just got they don't care about the story the pioneering they're just here all look it's the eclipse again let me put on my glasses I want to be near the thing that gets four million more
Starting point is 00:02:48 people than the men do but Lucy's broken like her heart was in that thing she cared in a way that is only a thousand times deeper than anyone around here yep what are you laughing about I'm laughing at Tony because he said in my headset as you were talking about the eclipse About the glasses and what a fraud those glasses My dog looks straight into your clip. She's completely fine We started talking women's sports and all of a sudden we're on the damn eclipse No, you were right Dan. This is amazing a tear came to my eye when I saw all the support these ladies was getting online I don't care if it's good bad brother we have reached a
Starting point is 00:03:29 point to where Stu Gatz was arguing yesterday on Brianna Stewart I think yeah oh my god he know what the hell he was talking about no idea we've made it yeah I was talking about it you do you're right thank you for noticing this is excellent Stu Gatz is saying we have not reached true equality in this country until still got to speaking in on your sport that how to how to get out of box how did we miss that achievement and lucy in keeping with your general work for metal lark which is very casual passionate but casual how are you three days late
Starting point is 00:04:07 to reporting on your heartbreak around here and how dare you ask us for more time off to take care of your mental health, because Iowa lost. One, I don't know what that means. What does that mean? What does the casual part mean? I don't get that, like she does her job casually, like in a good way or a bad way?
Starting point is 00:04:24 Yeah, answer the question. Yeah, answer the question. What does that mean? I don't get that, like she does her job casually, like in a good way or a bad way? She's lazy? Yeah, answer the question. What does that mean? The answer is that Lucy gets to be here less frequently than everybody else working with us on the daily cooking of the meth that is gonna kill us all while she's going to all the best sporting events in America on Metal Arts Dime
Starting point is 00:04:42 and buying a bunch of memorabilia for her and her loved one. I didn't buy anything this trip. So, back off Dan, I'm going through a lot. Tell us what happened because I've got a workplace complaint from Rose on you because she says that you made her pray during the Iowa game when she didn't necessarily want to pray. Didn't work, so didn't work. Yeah, whose fault is that? Thanks God.
Starting point is 00:05:12 I don't like where we're going. That's not a bad idea. That is a bad idea. We cannot blame the Lord. Bad idea. Everybody can pray, by the way. It's not just an exclusive roast. But you can't force somebody in the workplace to pray,
Starting point is 00:05:23 can you? I don't think you can. You're the boss of yes and she told me that she prayed during the UConn game and I didn't ask her to pray during that one. I mean we're making kids pray in public school now so it's all really lost you know. I'm glad this conversation went here. Good first few minutes. I'm so happy. Back to Back to the glasses. Back to the glasses, yeah. It's a scam, by the way. We start talking about women's sports, now we on prayer, we on everything.
Starting point is 00:05:49 But the actual sport, brother, Dawn Staley has cemented herself in legendary status. Katelyn Clark, thank you for your support and love for the game. Oh my God, it was so beautiful to see her out there like that, brother. And them girls from South Carolina, oh my God, Camila Cardo.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Round of applause from the top to the bottom of the squad for South Carolina. Bitch, oh my goodness. Undefeated and overlooked somehow. Overlooked somehow. It's crazy, right? He's right. Imagine that happening.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Imagine, Stugatz, a phenomenon getting here so strong that what we were celebrating at the end was a cult of personality that brought so many new casuals to the sport that ignores, hey, a team just went undefeated out there. And she lost, they beat the greatest player ever at the end. That's a pretty cool story. Why is it getting engulfed by the loser? Well, at least we watched them and looked at them.
Starting point is 00:06:47 We didn't even look at UConn. They won back-to-back titles in mass. So we didn't even look. At least they weren't overlooked. I looked. I cared. Come on, guys. Great start.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Real Hoopers looks. Thank you. I've been ashamed listening to y'all the past couple days. Y'all act like too late to watch the championship game. What has happened to my heroes? I will tell you this, Juju. For the first time, for the first time ever, for me at least, I felt like Monday night,
Starting point is 00:07:12 I had already seen the national championship game that I wanted to see. For the first time ever, and I had little to no interest in Yukon and Purdue. Juju is right about everything. About every single thing that he said. Moving forward or just? Well, I'm willing to negotiate on that, but when it comes to caretaking for the show, I'm here for Juju being just general ombudsman
Starting point is 00:07:35 or when you guys, ombudsman's an ombudsman. I know what ombudsman's mean, but I don't think Tony know what it means. So can you just help my point out? It's when you got the buds and you need ombuds to keep them in line. You know what ombudsman's mean, but I don't think Tony know what it means, so could you just help my point out? It's when you got the buds, and you need ombuds to keep them in line, you know what I mean? I love buds.
Starting point is 00:07:50 I'm here for a segment where Juju just critiques where it is the show has been shitty the last couple of days. And I do believe that Lucy and Juju care more about this than anyone in the room, and that Juju correctly identifies when it is that Tony's got nothing and just wants to go to the eclipse
Starting point is 00:08:08 because it's more fun to talk about the eclipse. It's not about nothing, I was locked in, Dan, it's just you said about the eclipse and you said about the glasses, it's a scam by the way. Right, and my boy never got nothing. My boy, I don't care what he talking about, he got something wrong. Don't do that, the vision is terrible in this building,
Starting point is 00:08:20 that's my brother, I love him. Tony is right about these glasses though. There is one company that makes them, they have a monopoly, they made so much money on these things, I'm not even certain if you needed them, it's ridiculous. It's absurd. You put four sunglasses in a row, and then you can look straight up at it without a problem.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Put us in the building, Lucy. Fourth quarter, with all the marbles on the line. Can we talk about the first quarter? I loved that quarter. That quarter was my favorite. I thought she was gonna have 100 points in the first quarter. So did that quarter. That quarter was my favorite. I thought she was gonna have 100 points in the first quarter. So did I. Holy moly, she didn't even cover. Ain't that a slew of Draft Kings?
Starting point is 00:08:52 Rose is in the other room, and before we go to Lucy, cause this is not a put on. Lucy, I'm going to say that there is no one in the state of Florida hurting more for the last three days because of something that happened in sports than Lucy because she cares more about this team than anyone in this state, I would say,
Starting point is 00:09:11 than any human being in this state. In the world. The Marlins are one in 11. Billy's a Marlin fan. That's hurting a lot. He know, you don't know pain. Rose, you were with Lucy on content I'm assuming I'm going to see today at some point, Lucy, or no? The video's done, I believe.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Okay, good work. Rose, what happened? Explain to me what happened on Sunday with Lucy. You were with her, how crazy is she? Oh, well, she's crazy, but that's why we like each other. But we were at the game, and then the first half was amazing. Then we got to a point where Iowa, I don't know what happened, and she was like, Oh, you know what, Rose? Love, God loves you very much. Can you pray? I'm like, okay, yeah, I was already praying. But I was praying inside of me, like I was okay, God, help us here.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Private prayer. You weren't forced into some sort of public sharing prayer you were already doing the prayer and now she's just she didn't know that and she's requesting more prayer. Yeah so she got me my to get my rosary out so I got it out okay okay I'm gonna pray it's like pray okay I'm praying I promise I'm praying but the thing is I don't think I phrased it well because I was like God may your will be done. I didn't pray. Hey How dare you pray like that? It is his will though.
Starting point is 00:10:44 No, Rose! What can I say? Learn how to pray. You messed it all up! I know, but it was also my dad's fault because he started watching the game and every time he watched the game, they lose. So he was like, oh I'm watching the game!
Starting point is 00:11:00 I'm like, no please. And he had to put it out, so I was like, yeah I'm gonna pray. Alright, Rose, I'm sorry, but penalty box you prayed wrong What? Penalty box get out of here Lucy. No, you gotta Your will she that's the appropriate and it's supposed to be God God in the forest. He told me it's my will not yours. That's not what Lucy was asking for two minutes for praying Lucy you didn't Lucy that's unbelievable that you asked for prayer wrong. I didn't ask for it wrong.
Starting point is 00:11:32 You didn't want God's will be done. You wanted your will be done. Exactly, you get it, thank you. But did you hear Don Stanley? She has a great relationship with the Lord, so his will was done, god damn it. Whoa! No, no.
Starting point is 00:11:47 You can't put a GD in. It's a GOT, I'm from the hood, we say GOT. I apologize, I was accountability. Go sit with Rose. Go sit with Rose. Two minutes for blasphemy. He went from being right about everything to two minutes in the box.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Get out of here. GD with God's will doesn't work. No, that's blasphemous. Blasphemous. We won't tolerate blasphemy around here. Thank you. I argue that we may have just committed it just before this.
Starting point is 00:12:11 That's what the joke I was making was. Thank you for showing people behind the curtain. It can't get much worse for me, so whatever. That's what I was doing. Look at his smile. That's the joke, executive producers. Stay with me. That's what I was doing.
Starting point is 00:12:23 We just spent that time blaspheming. We yelled, remember how mad we got when said she prayed wrong? And then Gigi used the Lord's name. You go sit with him, you go sit with him. She's not in the bank. Lucy, take me through your emotions, please. Like right now, bad, really bad, not great,
Starting point is 00:12:44 been doing better. It's been a couple days though, Lou, so it, not great, been doing better. It's been a couple days though, Lou, so it feels like things have gotten removed. You're three days removed. They haven't. No, she came in here despondent. I was sad, I am sad. This is as bad, this was as sad
Starting point is 00:12:54 as I've seen her look coming into work. All time, sad level. So, Sunday, I went into that game thinking South Carolina would win. I really did. And then the first quarter happened and I was like, shit, Iowa might win this thing. And I got a little taste of it.
Starting point is 00:13:12 I got a little glimpse in the future. And then it was all taken away from me. And I said, okay, I'm really sad. This is tough. Whatever, I'm grateful. We fly back the next morning. I rot the whole day. I just lay in bed.
Starting point is 00:13:24 It was awesome. It kicked ass. And I opened up TikTok and my entire TikTok are all these edits of the next morning. I rot the whole day. I just lay in bed. It was awesome. It kicked ass. And I opened up TikTok and my entire TikTok are all these edits of the Iowa team and with all the sad music that made me cry. And I was like, Oh my God, I got to stay off my phone. I stay off my phone. Then finally today or yesterday, I'm back on my phone. You know what? I cleaned. I was, I was looking up and then the university of Iowa posted a video of all these like young kids cheering for Caitlin with the song from the Barbie movie And that made me cry so bad. So it's just like up and down and up and down and I don't know if I'll ever be happy again You guys didn't feel it like that you guys did not
Starting point is 00:13:57 Experience any of this the way that she did crushed you were really in bed for an entirety of a day This was this was a thunderstorm of darkness that swept over you. Yes, because I have now seen my favorite team losing the national championship twice in a row, and I've been there both times. And the last time hurt because you lost to Kim Mulkey, and that really sucks. Like, at least this time it was a Don Salie,
Starting point is 00:14:20 somebody that everybody loves, that I love, that's phenomenal. There is comfort in that. There's small, small solace, and I don't also have to lose to this person I don't like and don't respect. It made me so, like, obviously I wish I would have seen Iowa on the podium, but when I saw Don Staley dancing with the trophy, I was like, damn,
Starting point is 00:14:36 I'm happy for her, I really, really am. But then it hits you that everybody's gone, and it's over. And instead of just, wow, what a great season it was, congratulations to South Carolina. The whole discourse online was this Caitlin the go-hero what these former players are saying blah blah blah I just wanted a moment of peace one moment of peace I have to commend Lucy because Dan I saw something that put a little flint rock to my heart and it's somebody caring about something in a way that I haven't cared about something in so long like that that like you haven't been around
Starting point is 00:15:08 sports long enough to already be hardened damn like what what in the world could get me how are you a sports cynic not just in sports he's saying just in life no no not in life in sports in sports okay but it's like I see Lucy caring so much about a particular team that I feel like I haven't had that in like 15 years. Okay, you, I think, have lost part of your soul because I believe that Heat fans live where Lucy is. Panther fans right now are living where Lucy lives.
Starting point is 00:15:42 You guys don't get it. That's not the same. That's not the same. That's not the same, Dan. I lost back to back national championship games in college athletics where it's so much tougher to win. It's so tough, especially at a school like Iowa. We don't have as much money as everyone else. We don't have as much talent as everybody else.
Starting point is 00:16:02 This was a once in a lifetime run. Do not compare the two. Your pain is greater than anyone's. Yes! Be nice to me! I need it! She is complaining. I am worried in general. I'm not complaining, I'm hurting.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Okay, but you're hurting and complaining about that hurt by lashing out at Metal Lark. At you. I mean, out at Metal Lark. At you. I mean you are Metal Lark, so same thing. But lashing out, yeah okay fine, lashing out at me as we send you to what could have been the day and night of your dreams. Like what Metal, you're mad, yeah but you're mad at me.
Starting point is 00:16:41 You're lashing out at me even though our company paid for you to be at what would have been the greatest sporting memory of your lifetime, never to be outdone. Yeah, well it didn't turn out that way. And it would have been awesome, because I had this fun plan. If I were one, I was gonna shoot off confetti cannons
Starting point is 00:16:58 in the office, it was gonna be awesome. And so, I'm gonna give myself two weeks to be sad. I'm gonna be sad for two weeks. And then in 15 days, I will be so grateful because before the game started, obviously I cried multiple times. There was a moment where we're walking through the crowd and I was like, wow, how awesome is this?
Starting point is 00:17:16 What a special moment that I get to be here and watch my alma mater play and do it for work and all this awesome stuff. And then Iowa lost and all the good feelings were gone. That's how it goes. All the good feelings are still here. I definitely feel my sister. And it just, it sucks.
Starting point is 00:17:31 But you made it to the championship in back to back years. You know what I mean? As a Buffalo Bills fan, I feel your pain, ma'am. But I think that the WNBA and the women's college game right now, it literally brought tears to my eyes, seeing how much love and how much hate that it was receiving because back in the days, nobody cared.
Starting point is 00:17:51 You go online, back to the kitchen, get in the kitchen. Oh, this is terrible. But we're actually arguing over Diana Taurasi, Kaitlyn Clark, Maya Moore. This is beautiful. I'm so happy to live in this era of women's sports. The Dan LeBattard Show with Stu Gotts is sponsored by BetterHelp. It's time for a self check-in.
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Starting point is 00:19:32 with perfect harmony in Pure Michigan. Keep it fresh at michigan.org. Don LeBattard. All of us who were watching college football elevated everything the weekend was because we missed football in general so very much You didn't watch the ending of UTEP Jacksonville State. It was awesome. It's easy boom Stugarts Such a lane for you. Just everything in college football is awesome any single thing that happens
Starting point is 00:20:03 She gets deliriously happy about. Don't you miss viewing sports through that prism though? Like I'm envious of Lucy. Like I wish that I could still be happy. This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats. You are always, when you come around here, you're somebody who brings positivity, but Stu Gatz doesn't want that. He wants to do top five people in sports who can note prayer.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Are you ready? Number five, God sham God. Hey, respect. Respect. By the way, a little high on the list. Good timing, Billy. Welcome back. Number four, Cantavious, Caldwell, Pope. KCP. Thank you. Number three, Malik Monk. The Monkinator. Number two, Kendrick Nunn.
Starting point is 00:20:58 That's a good list. That's a good list. I can't believe he got it this quickly. Number one, Priest Holmes. I mean, it's a good list. Nailed it. He really did. Number one. Priest Holmes. I mean, it's a good list. Nailed it. He really did. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Left out Garrett Temple. Ooh. O-L-I. Good one. No Christian Ponder. And Neil O'Donnell. That's another good one. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:21:18 It's a good list. Rick Upchurch. You're going to be able to keep going, think uh... juju and tony i've also missed you because on monday talking to a room that did not want to talk about mike francesa the boat thank you a room that did not want to talk about jay cole and rake and kendrick i met i
Starting point is 00:21:41 was looking for both of you on monday I felt broken because a lot of people in hip hop just simply wanted beef to be beef. I was actually most curious about Juju's opinion here because I know that he promotes positivity. And I thought there was great strength in what J. Cole did, but I am in the minority in thinking that because hip hop, beef, everyone wanted it. And you want it between the three best in
Starting point is 00:22:06 The game like for the three most popular guys to go at it everybody wants that as entertainment But the floor is yours because nobody here wanted to talk about it on Monday. So the mental health Ascension of me that side of me is so proud of my brother Jermaine Cole Oh my god round of applause for him having strength and not giving a damn about what a hater got to say about his beefs or his friendships or whatever. But the hip hop in me really was let down by that. Just not because of,
Starting point is 00:22:40 I don't think we're gonna see some shootouts between J Cole and Kendrick Lamar. I don't think he has to worry about that side of the pressure that usually comes with Kendrick Lamar in that side of the world I think that he could have kept it hip-hop find a way to keep it hip-hop because I grew up on DMX I grew up on Mobb Deep. I grew up on Jay-Z. I grew up on Tupac and Biggie It's not to rob us of that and then to have that stance I feel like I was let down as a hip-hop fan do the other thing too is rap hip-hop is very Wrestling in a sense right where you you and me can both be rappers both have beef, but behind closed doors were boys
Starting point is 00:23:19 It's just the music industry is putting us together to elevate what the streaming numbers are with the concerts, the tours and all that stuff. I felt like there was a way that J Cole could have continued to play this out as, yeah we have beef, Drake's gonna drop something. It elevates everybody's music at the same time. Behind closed doors, yo, me and you are boys, we're just doing this because hey, this is the job. We just gotta do it at this point. Right, put it on wax.
Starting point is 00:23:42 You know how many battle rappers step into that square every day and just say the worst thing about this brother but after it's all said and done, you already know this is a sport. If you call yourself one of the ghosts and the legends in this sport, the top three or whatever you call yourself, you can't shy down from a challenge. And I feel like if you are a rapper, rapping shouldn't be looked at as something such a tall task or something you feel so ashamed of because brother you went to the studio You laid the verse down you listen back you got it mixed and mastered you sent the artwork off
Starting point is 00:24:12 You send it in to the streaming descriptor distributors And you at is so many stages that you could have said I don't want to do this But you don't put it out for the world to hear and you come back with that I the hip-hop side of me is let down and the other thing too is the the diss happened on Metro and futures album so he had a week to put that diss track together put it on on might delete later which is his new EP that came out but now you're saying you want to drop it it is it was really good he got Gucci man and young dro on it got Cameron on it. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:24:45 Come on, bro. Great project, but don't nobody want to hear that, bro. We not all in Butterfly land like salute the dreamville But bro most of us out here wake up with it on their mind every day Most of us out here really go get it for real for real So I was let down as a hip-hop head I think I think Drake too is gonna come up cuz he had put some cryptic stuff on social media, too It feels to me like Drake is getting all
Starting point is 00:25:06 the ghost writers together be like alright how can we do this in reverse now to make my diss track the best out of all three of them so it's gonna be interesting to see because it elevates all the music damn I grew up on ether I grew up on hit them up I grew up on all that and them folks is adult males right now 40 50 years old, dappin' each other off when they see each other. Come on man, keep it hip hop. You say this, but the place I wanna challenge you on
Starting point is 00:25:32 is in general who you are away from, hip hop. The person that I know who knows how these streets can be and what J. Cole is saying when he says, hey, my friends want blood. My friends are saying, no, elevate this. Do what Juju and Tony wants. And he's saying to his friends, no, my friends want blood. My friends are saying, no, elevate this. Do what Juju and Tony wants. And he's saying to his friends, no, my spiritual path, this doesn't feel right to me. Doing it, man, you cannot accuse J. Cole, Juju, of being somebody who does it the way
Starting point is 00:25:56 everyone else has done it. In this instance, he's separating himself not just from these two, but from all of hip hop by saying, no, I'd like to elevate this. My friends are telling me, go for the bloodbath because we believe in your talent we don't think you're going to lose you're the best there's ever been show them but you know you're saying you don't think that this is what happens around these guys because they do not have the temperament they don't have the reputation of being killers away from here but when his friends are asking for
Starting point is 00:26:23 blood what do you make of him being a leader and saying because I liked what I saw I love hip-hop I'm not from a different time, but from the beginnings of it And so when I'm seeing Jay Cole saying no I'm not gonna do this the way everyone expects me to do it I'm like that's keeping totally in line with what this man's career has been right is excuse me. I'm sorry It's a thousand choked up career has been. Right, excuse me, I'm sorry, $1,000. Choked up. You feel me? Yeah. But, not that much. Sometimes when you're a leader, sometimes you lose a battle and this is a battle you lost, brother. I don't give a damn how mature. Look, we're
Starting point is 00:26:53 not talking about you as a man. We are talking about him as a man, bringing that part into it. I understand that part, but you call yourself a GOAT. You call yourself top five, dead or alive. You call yourself these things. And I feel like every now and then, some of these people who don't do it like the other people, we take missteps and we sometimes take an L and this is an L for my boy, J. Cole. Evander Holyfield.
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Starting point is 00:27:43 Don Lebertard. You got to know I'm a big Colombo guy. secret at your nearest Walmart or Shopper's Drug Mart today. Don LeBataard. You got to know I'm a big Colombo guy. Salute to that boy. OK. I don't think that's proof. I don't think that's proof. I think that could be a lie. I don't think that's that.
Starting point is 00:27:57 He said salute. I don't think that is evidence. Salute to that boy. It suggests camouflage. It suggests that Juju has no idea what we're talking about, and now he's just Googling it. Stugots. I'm not Googling it.
Starting point is 00:28:11 My grandmama stayed in the country. I watched The Braves, I watched Columbo, I watched Matlock, I watched Andy Griffin. Absolutely you, sir, but you go to the pill in the box. Damn. They didn't take your ass to the pill in the box. You tell him, Juju. Call me a liar.
Starting point is 00:28:24 You tell him, Juju! Back to you Stu. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the StuGuts. StuGuts, I think that there have been a couple of things happening around here with David Sampson recently that I have found interesting as someone who's interested in the sociology of our place. David Sampson is doing something brave and ambitious. He has had a show for a very short period of time and he's already touring with it. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:29:03 And on Monday he was with Juju in Atlanta. Juju, how did that go? It went amazing. My brother David had control of the crowd, man. He funny as hell, but y'all gotta see my boy in person, man. Like, I don't know what opinion y'all have of him on from this show, but seeing him live with his friend, Dan Ugly Man and the fans, bro, it just feel real good.
Starting point is 00:29:23 I see him out there like that. Brave and ambitious. This is something that David Sampson is trying that I would not dare to try. I do worry about burnout with David Sampson because listen, usually when I call David, he either picks up or he calls me right back. But after he did the Rich Eisen show, something happened. Something happened. I called David, he had a bad connection. He said he called me back. He didn't call me back. I called him back when I called him back. He had to call me back because he was going on a local radio station in Sacramento. I mean, it's unbelievable. Dan, he is going to burn out. I am telling you right now.
Starting point is 00:29:57 He was on in Naples. That's what it looks like, Stu. That's hunger. You used to feel it many, many years ago. I used to do those hits all the time and I'm doing different hits Yes, that is what you're doing fried from the drugs David. How has it gone? I'm just wondering whether or not stew when you were calling was it for anything other than for me to help you write your book No, no, okay. So there you go. I was checking in with you on the tour just to see how it's going I'm proud of you. I'm told the shows are very very good. So I tour just to see how it's going. I'm proud of you. I'm told the shows are very, very good.
Starting point is 00:30:27 So I just wanted to see how you were doing. That's all. Thank you. That's very nice. It's been fascinating. Being with Juju in Atlanta was actually the highlight so far. I'm sitting in Boston right now. And I wish that Juju were there because the feedback I've
Starting point is 00:30:41 gotten in the episode hasn't even been released. Juju is going gonna be released this weekend so everyone will watch and listen to what we talked about. But you are a fascinating, and Dan, your name may have come up, and the esteem in which we hold you, but the understanding that we all wanna be better for you and what we do, and having Juju there talk about it
Starting point is 00:31:04 and having an audience and a far bigger audience than just who is in that room listen to the show you'll get to see Juju in a way that I wish that I wish that everyone could look at Juju the way I and everyone can look at him who is part of the Nothing personal family. Thank you so much brother I really appreciate that man means the world to me. All right so I want to explore something here though, David, because this very nice thing between you two, I will tell you that one of the problems that we now have around here is that because you have a tour, you're doing something.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Sarah Spain did this, Greg Cody, all of them made their podcasts into something that was elevated when they took the personalities in our universe and use them in different positions. I don't think Stugatz is happy for your success. I don't think that he likes, because this is Stugatz's move too. He uses all of these people to, for example, write a book that he's not going to write for himself because he takes access to this world and then he profits off it. I mean, I don't know. I actually have the feeling that my success
Starting point is 00:32:09 is actually despite and in spite of the position I have at Metal Art because I have to fight the character that I am and that you make me to be on your show as this person that everyone hates. He ruined baseball for Billy and Mike, and he's just this ogre. And then people listen to nothing personal
Starting point is 00:32:29 and they see me live and they realize I'm actually can be funny, engaging, and talk about things that you guys won't talk about. And I send you a list of things I wanna talk about and I spend time putting a show together for this day with you and we never get to any of it. Bro, I know how we can get to some of that stuff. Three words, me, you, movie podcasts, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:32:52 We just review movies and we talk about getting, we compete, we got a bigger and better center file with David Sampson and Juju Gotti. Check it, Dan. I think that's a good idea, David. What do you think? Why wouldn't you profit on the way that this organization underutilizes Juju Gotti, check it Dan. I think that's a good idea David, what do you think? Why wouldn't you profit on the way that this organization underutilizes Juju?
Starting point is 00:33:10 Well it's funny that you do that, and the answer is I would love to do something with Juju, but I can't get Bimel to return a call. So I'm not exactly positive how that would ever get approved. Join the list. But that said, Juju if you. All right, Samson, I just approved it. You and Juju can do a movie podcast. You can't.
Starting point is 00:33:28 I just approved it. I just approved it. No, not acceptable because you approve things without, with reckless indifference toward budget, toward what it actually means. I just approved it. It's approved. Sounds approved to me. It's approved. You can do this dance if you like, but I want a movie pod. I've wanted you and Adnan to do a movie podcast forever.
Starting point is 00:33:49 And you just figured out at the very end of a couple of months ago, you figure out, hey, we might be good if we work together. Seven straight hours. I've been wanting you to work on movies in a way that reaches young people. And you and Adnan are out here talking all the time about Coppola.
Starting point is 00:34:07 No, that's Adnan. Let's not be confused. The great Francis Ford. Yes, of course the great Francis Ford. Yes, you guys are out here talking about movies and the audience is can we get Gene Hackman? If you can watch Nothing Personal, Dan, which I know that you do every single day, I review a current movie every day and spend time on it. And Juju and I could do a show where we
Starting point is 00:34:31 only talk about current movies, and I think it'd be outstanding, but it would just require some level of support for Metal Arc. And I want them to focus on supporting you and your show. Let's do this. Here, David, you you want challenges you want adversity you want the degree of difficult just wants a call back okay in ten minutes you and juju will debut the pilot episode of Samson and juju at the movies we're going to debut that live in ten minutes at the end we locked in on that name? Yes, no, the name you can change, but we're locked in on the support of the idea that we must put Juju and Samson in better positions because they're hustling.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Like what they just did in Atlanta. I want to celebrate the fact David Samson is on tour. A couple of Jews cutting it up. Hey. Well, hi-ya. Now that's the name of the show. There you go. There it that. Now that's the name of the show. There you go. There it is.
Starting point is 00:35:27 That is a great name for the show. 80 20 my way. It's a great name for the show. You know what? If you want Stu gots to host it, we will debut the pilot episode of opportunity. Couple of Jews cutting it up in five minutes. We're going to do that right now. Are you guys ready?
Starting point is 00:35:46 I'm ready to go. Juju, off the record and off the air, have you seen Bob Marley's new movie called One Love? I have not seen that movie, not at all. All right, not working so far. Bad start. Gonna need a planning meeting. Gonna need a planning meeting.
Starting point is 00:36:00 It's 80-20-20? Hey. Oh. It's two gods. You can have 5% for the name, but you don't get a trailer. It's the initial 5% of revenue from the first 30 days. Five minutes from now, we will do it. Sampson, the Marlins, do they have a lame duck manager again?
Starting point is 00:36:18 Like, what is this that just happened yesterday? This is something that I've not seen in my entire career. When Skip Schumacher was hired in Florida by Kim Ang, yesterday. This is something that I've not seen in my entire career. When Skip Schumacher was hired in Florida by Kim Ang, he was given a two-year deal plus an option. And it's a team option. And the reason teams want that option is if the manager works out, they
Starting point is 00:36:37 want the ability to have his salary locked in for that third year. If it doesn't work out, you can jettison him after two and have no more financial responsibility. It turns out that this off season, Skip Schumacher was so disappointed with the direction of the team, so disappointed with the fact that Kim Ang was disappeared, that he actually expressed a desire to not be here long term. And so the Marlins said, all right, we will get rid of your option because maybe the new president of baseball operations, Billy's favorite guy, Peter, did not want him either. The problem is this word leaked out.
Starting point is 00:37:17 What does it mean? It means that Schumacher has gone after the season without a doubt. And the fact that the Marlins are going to lose 90 to 95 games will make it easy for him to move on and for the Marlins to move on because new presidents want their own people in his managers. Skip may get another job. I'm not sure he was long for the Marlins' job to begin with,
Starting point is 00:37:37 but I don't think it's a reflection of the way I ran it where we fired a manager every single year. I think this is a reflection of bringing in someone and wanting to start over. And I think this is a reflection of bringing in someone and wanting to start over. And I think you should all look for, and I have a way to see on this on Nothing Personal, that Gabe Kapler is likely to be your next manager.
Starting point is 00:37:55 And he is in the organization already. And I think you all ought to be careful what you wish for. But I think the Marlins are trying something different. They're trying to be the raise. They're trying to be analytical. They're building up their front office. The problem is that to be the raise, I always tried to be the raise. You have to be as smart as the raise. And I'm just not sure the Marlins have the people in place to do that. What happened with that comment that you just made, careful what you wish for on Gabe Kapler?
Starting point is 00:38:24 Well, I think that you have to look at his you wish for on Gabe Kapler. Well I think that you have to look at his history as a manager and you have to realize that he is the type of manager that is going to be difficult. He can be difficult for the players to be difficult for the front office and managerial careers this day and age are about managing up to the front office who's completely involved and managing down to the clubhouse because the clubhouse doesn't like the front office, doesn't like the ownership, and you've got to have someone in the middle who can deal with both. And the reason why you've seen Gabe Kapler move on is super hard to do it.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Don Mattingly was terrific at it until he lost the clubhouse and the whole issue with Jazz and with Miguel Rojas and that was the end of Mattingly. So it's very difficult line to walk and it's going to be difficult for Gabe as well, especially with the players the Marlins have in the front office they now have. All right. When Skip Schumacher was in here, you guys objectified him. You guys were all like sniffing around and saying, what's your workout? What do you eat? Have you guys seen Gabe Kapler shirtless? Oh, okay Gabe Kapler is an Adonis Gabe Kapler is coming in here with his data and his His raised buddy and he is going to pectoral to death the Marlins Clubhouse natural
Starting point is 00:39:41 I'm not to fail one. Whoa has a body that looks like that. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Hold on. Time to try and weigh all journalistic credibility and get reckless. It's not journalism. Please call reckless speculation. You're good. Can you put the picture of the former mayor of Miami on there.
Starting point is 00:40:05 No, here is it. No, yeah. Yeah. We'll get that in a moment for you. Asshole. Weird question. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:13 We'll just we'll run and get that real quick or we'll do the show we were doing ourselves about Gabe Kapler shirtless. Let's put this beefcake up here so that this is Samson can drink this in. This is why he tours. Yeah. This is why he's the great David Samson. Hey video guys, can you do something we're totally unprepared for?
Starting point is 00:40:27 I'd do it alone. Juju, how many people were in my group in Atlanta? About what, 35, 40 people, you feel? No, no, no, I'm talking about travel with me. Who goes with me? Can we get the brother with the bikini drawers off the screen? Can we do that and have this conversation?
Starting point is 00:40:43 Nah, I think he looks great. Oh, he looks great. That was the crowd? 35 to 40 people? That was... Success. with the bikini drawers off the screen. Can we do that and have this conversation? I think he looks great. Oh, he looks great. That was the crowd? 35 to 40 people? He looks, that was, that was. Success. Oh, come on.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Dan, does anyone really look like that from doing sit-ups? Yes! I've never met anyone.

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