The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: I Need Jetpacks and D***

Episode Date: March 17, 2025

“We’re North Carolina, you’re Boise State, that’s why we’re in the tournament. Play the clip.” …and why are The Underdogs still here…?Today’s cast: Dan, Chris, Billy, Jessica, Mike, ...and Roy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:20 Shadow Show. Shadow Show. Shadow Show. Shadow Show. Shadow in it shadow shadow in it shadow in it Chris director Jason just came in here and he doesn't say very much this was a fusive for him this was a champagne bottle opening he said last night show top three all time and I'm like that can't be right. That's in no way right. And then, because I was staring at him, I just said, you mean since you've been here, right?
Starting point is 00:01:51 And he's been here 17 minutes. And the show last night, your thoughts today as we come in a little broken, it seems like you guys are a little beat up today. It was really fun. I don't have anything to talk about today. Yeah, that's the tricky part. Last night, great time. Yeah. You don't have anything to talk about today. Yeah, that's the tricky part. Last night, great time.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Yeah. You don't have anything to say today? You're out of opinions? You just talked about college basketball so much last night. You sort of used it all last night. We do get some free golf today, that I'm excited about. Oh, the players. The players.
Starting point is 00:02:19 During the show, the next two days, we're gonna have sports during the show. We're gonna have Major League Baseball tomorrow at 6 a.m. That's back. No, it's not fake, it's back. If Otani is playing a meaningful game in Japan, you lock in. It's real.
Starting point is 00:02:35 What do you mean it's fake, Billy? They've been doing this fake thing for 15 years plus. Honestly, probably even longer than that. You get on board. I don't understand the accusation of that's fake. It's fake, what do you mean? It's not real. Here's how real it is.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Every self-respecting baseball fantasy league drafts after these games are played, because they're like, yeah, no, I'm not. I'm not drafting March 17th, because we're going to go play two random games to pander internationally to grow the game. And then we'll come back, and then you're still going to play spring training games for two weeks, and then we'll come back and then you're still gonna play spring training games for two weeks,
Starting point is 00:03:07 and then the season's gonna start next week. Like, no, that's fake. Okay, we can pretend it's real, it'll count in the record book, whatever. It's fake, not opening day. It's gonna feel plenty real at nine a.m. tomorrow when we're locked in on the sixth inning. I just don't understand how you can call something.
Starting point is 00:03:22 You understand, you understand. You know you understand. I think the gambit is we all acknowledge that this is a ridiculous thing, but we're happy for the action. No. We're not happy for the action? No.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Come back after March Madness. Like, this is March Madness week. We don't need random baseball games as we come on and get out of here. And we have a championship game and unrivaled tonight, like baseball. Stay in your lane. Homestead's coming this weekend.
Starting point is 00:03:44 It's a busy week. We don't need real baseball games that aren't real. Stay in your lane. Homestead's coming this weekend like it's a busy week we don't need real baseball games that aren't real. Miami Open too. I was there yesterday I'm still recovering. Major League Baseball starts tomorrow. No. It starts tomorrow. Who's still on the slab? Oh come on Dan it's the biggest game of the season. First pitch, opening day, season starts, who is it? Is Otani pitching this year or did they decide they're not gonna do that anymore? No, he's pitching. He's pitching?
Starting point is 00:04:11 I think Wonsodo's pitching with the contract that they gave him. I saw Joey Gallo said he's pitching now. I see, it's something he said. Yeah, okay. What does that mean? I don't know. Well, Trevor Bauer says he's pitching every year too.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Then the team say, nope, no thank you. I don't know he's got a power to our says he's pitching every year, too Yeah, then the team say nope. Oh, thank you I don't know if Joey Gallo was trying to like pull a fast one on me, but he did say on social media that he's pitching No, okay Yamamoto will start for the Dodgers game one if I'm being honest all I want to do today is watch more of the March sadness submissions the big red Cody Really funny okay, they were really Yeah, but I'm afraid Jessica that much like you guys last night, we've used up all our good material.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Oh, I know for a fact that's not true. There's at least three or four other good ones. Ha! I'm kidding. This is the Dan Leventor Show with the Stugats Podcast. See, was that so hard, righteous gemstones? with the Stugarts Podcast. ["The Stugarts Show Theme"] See, was that so hard, Righteous Gemstones? Just open with Baby Billy, and five minutes in, he's angry with his dick out.
Starting point is 00:05:15 That's how you do it. I don't need a war scene. I don't need Bradley Cooper. I need jet packs and dick. Spoiler alert. That's gonna become a meme. Yes That is it's also SpaceX's tagline White Lotus has a controversy because Jason Isaacs is running around saying that there's a double standard He's not answering any more questions about his penis and because he's been accused of it being a prosthetic. The full frontal remains funny. Forgetting Sarah Marshall, great movie, funny movie,
Starting point is 00:05:52 that's the scene I remember. I don't know why it is that McBride likes it so much, but I think that's the reason because you just can't lose with it. But it's still rare, is it not? Like how often do you, you got two shows on Max doing this and White Lotus is in the middle of something of a controversy over it, but it's still a rare thing, right? I remember on network television, NYPD Blue, when it was a big deal that Sipowicz showed his ass on network television.
Starting point is 00:06:22 And now we're starting the second episode of The fourth season of righteous gemstones last season of righteous gemstones and Goggins has gone from I don't know. When did you guys discover him because I remember him beginning his career With the shield and he was and I don't I don't that's the first time I noticed him his character was very good, but Weak and so to watch his acting evolution to You know the comedic baby Billy is one of the best characters I've ever seen on television like it's legitimately funny every time he's there And it's just amazing to see his acting range go from what it was in The Shield.
Starting point is 00:07:05 None of you guys watch The Shield, right? No, I watch it. I know that you were always like really big on The Shield. I'm getting to it. Oh, what? Around to it. Justified, he was in Hateful Eight. Those were all 2010s movies and shows though.
Starting point is 00:07:24 The Shield was way back in the day, Dan. I never watched The Shield. Shield was groundbreaking television and it was dirty and grittier than most. It was dangerous for its time because it was pushing boundaries. But when I ask you about the full frontal stuff, it's unusual to see it, correct?
Starting point is 00:07:41 Like it's still. I don't think so anymore. The HBO has really, in the last five years I would say, I mean even the last season of Righteous Gemstones that came out over a year ago, it's been a lot of penises. This is McBride. It doesn't shock me at all anymore. It still makes me laugh every time.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Oh it's still funny, I agree with you on that. An enraged baby Billy taking no inventory, like where you can put those scenes to be funny is something that I'm constantly laughing at, regardless. Laugh riot in Nosferatu, let me tell you. Let me ask you something. At what age did you decide not to use first names anymore? Goggins?
Starting point is 00:08:20 No, I've done, well, first of all, I've started getting them wrong around here so often for five years. You're not supposed to call attention to that. No, but I've always done, but I've done. First of all, I've started getting them wrong around here so often for five years. You're not supposed to call attention to that. But no, but I've always done, but I've done that. Because he's technically right and it's a smart thing to do. Well, my father called Laranaga Larry last night, kept calling him Larry. And I'm aging poorly when it comes to remembering names in general. There's just some stuff that gets kicked out of the data bank and that is one of them.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Also baseball managers are another one. I'm just not paying any more attention to those. Smart thing to do. But when it comes to getting names, you guys have made fun of me about this for 20 years because I do this, I will call my friends by just their last name. You guys think that's weird? Like that's, it's something I've done since I will call my friends by just their last name. You guys think that's weird? Like that's, it's something I've done since I was in my 20s.
Starting point is 00:09:09 I think friends, it's normal. Yeah, it's normal, yeah. When you're just talking about random people you don't know, sometimes just the last name's a little odd. I spit that at Laranaga last night, right? I didn't call him Jim, I just kept calling him Laranaga. Coach? It is unclear, Mike Ryan,
Starting point is 00:09:25 I don't know if you'll be disappointed by this, can you guys get me the sound from last night? It is unclear. The group seemed to delight in wanting to ask Jim Laranaga if he knew or liked you. And when I say the room seemed- Yeah, I heard about that. Well, when I say the room seemed to delight in it,
Starting point is 00:09:41 I could only tell from over here, because I couldn't hear what they were doing doing but all of them were wanting to figure out how to ask Laronega the question and then Billy eventually asked him and Billy claimed afterward that he was forced to do it because no one else wanted to do it but everybody wanted to do it and so was it clear to you? I said it wasn't clear whether he knew you or not. The group says it is clear that he doesn't know you. I don't really know Jim all that much. I've been in places with him,
Starting point is 00:10:11 but I haven't had a long conversation with him. There's the problem. That's why he's gone. Well, but I- Didn't kiss the ring. They weren't very good this year. I thought as one of the big boosters at the University of Miami
Starting point is 00:10:22 and one of the influential voices on behalf of the University of Miami that of course he would know who you were. I mean, I don't know. Like, I don't, I've had like small talk with Jim Laranaga, but yeah, he wasn't like super engaged with certain folks. He was a dick, just saying, that's why he's gone. Just, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:10:43 It really seems like they had to pry a lot out of you Billy I just try to know how this one was here Billy's idea. They want someone else to do all so it's That way you didn't come last night It was pencil oil 400 the players players and Indian Wells and Stars abs the players got suspended at like 1 p.m. Yesterday players is going on right now We got a three hole playoff three holes for more free golf You're gonna be
Starting point is 00:11:13 Fixated here is he this is a we're in the middle of it right now. It is golf live And what we're gonna watch these three holes together Yeah, well, I mean you can watch it with me if you'd like, but I got I got an eye towards this Yeah, we got we got three. It's a bat. It's a back three holes together? Yeah, well, I mean, you can watch it with me if you'd like, but I got an eye towards this. Yeah, we got three. It's a back three, right? It's a final three holes, so that means the Island Green's gonna rear its ugly head. You're watching this for Rory to fall apart?
Starting point is 00:11:34 That's the reason you're watching? I also have a bet on Spawn. I mean, we're watching because it's the players. Yeah. Players. You guys enjoy saying that. Larenega, let's play that sound here real quick and see, because I would just expect Jim Larenega
Starting point is 00:11:48 as the pillar of a coach for the University of Miami to know one of his biggest media supporters. Coach, when a player comes up to you and they says they want more money, do you call Mike Ryan directly or how does that work? Like, how do you get more money for the players? Do I call who? They want to know if Mike Ryan directly or how does that work? Like how do you get more money for the players? Do I call who? They want to know if Mike Ryan is somebody that you like or know.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Mike Ryan, who's on our show, who is one of your biggest boosters. At home, I think. One of those you know if you see him type guys probably. So is he a booster? Can I get some money from him for NIL? You could. We're asking. He's a golden cane, I think.
Starting point is 00:12:24 I don't know if that means something. He told a couple of great stories last night. One of them I've heard before, all of his players coming in after the final four, eight of them saying, great season, coach, loved it. I'm going into the transfer portal that he thought for the first time about leaving the sport right then.
Starting point is 00:12:39 But the better story, the more memorable story, is the apocalypse that was his high school diet. Ten Reese's Pieces, every, I'm sorry, Reese's Peanut Butter Cups, ten of them for lunch every day for four years. It is a miracle that man is still standing in front of us. The human body is not meant to eat like that for years. And I got up this morning and asked him a question because I failed to ask it journalistically last night. How do you feel about those now? When's the last time that you ate one? Because I would imagine you'd be disgusted by them.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Wouldn't you guys? Wouldn't you imagine that if you, put it on the poll at LeBataart Show, if you had Reese's Peanut Butter Cups every day, 10 every day for four years, would they disgust you later in life? Never. Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:31 I get sick of anything, dude. Yes. Never. There was one Easter season where I had one Reese's egg a day for two weeks, and I don't think I've had a Reese's egg since. Is there a food that can break over this barrier that you wouldn't ever get disgusted by? Because I failed to ask him that
Starting point is 00:13:50 question last night, but when when I got home I was I because I was thinking to myself that seems like after two weeks that would be too decadent for even a child or a teenager to be eating that. To be eating that for four years every day for lunch because it cost 50 cents and that's all you had. That seemed to be something that I could go tired of very quickly. But let's play this clip here and mysteriously, weirdly, I never figured out why this was.
Starting point is 00:14:20 The underdogs were still hanging around at various point during this interview. We're gonna save the Coach L clip for the break because it's a long five minute clip. So we're not gonna play the food one right now. Okay, but all right, very good. So we've got here though, the underdogs guys, I thought it would be funny to open the show today with them still here, just wandering around.
Starting point is 00:14:40 We were all confused by why it is that they wouldn't leave, correct? It was odd, but delightful. They were very helpful, great info is that they wouldn't leave, correct? It was odd, but delightful. They were very helpful, great info. But why wouldn't they leave? Go ahead and play the clip. Let's go to them now, they're actually here. Oh, they are there, okay, so forgive me.
Starting point is 00:14:59 I thought, because it was in the preview, and I didn't realize that they were there. You thought that was a clip being teed up? I thought that that was, I I didn't realize that they were there. I didn't know. You thought that was a clipping, teed up? Yes, I thought that that was being, I'm sorry, so now they're back. No, they've actually never left. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:11 They've been there, that's a screen that's on all the time for them. Hey guys. Hey. Hey, when's breakfast? We've been waiting, where's our meal? Nobody knows who's where, that's why we're still here. You know, that's a fair point.
Starting point is 00:15:28 The most important part of comedy is the timing. Did you guys have fun last night? We had fun, did you have fun on the show? We had a huge amount, we had fun the whole time. We got to meet Fillerwitch too. That's why we haven't left. We're still here. Can you guys explain to us having,
Starting point is 00:15:45 cause you guys came on with us last night immediately after the tournament. And I was wondering if there was anything in the analysis afterward that you were not prepared to give us at the time. Oh, good question. We didn't talk about Colorado State over Memphis, right? I thought the seating was pretty good this year.
Starting point is 00:16:04 So I have no qualms. Usually I'm boiling mad about something, but if your biggest problem is Colorado State and Memphis. Yeah. I don't know. We gave our big upsets, but we didn't mention the Rams. Oh, you mean in terms of who could win? Oh, oh, oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Ram it down their throats. It seemed. Take it by the horns. It seemed though that the big story of the day where people are always looking to find some sort of outrage wherever it is that they can find it because we enjoy it so much it seemed like the big story was that North Carolina made it in and the conspiracy of that yes it's like totally tying into the
Starting point is 00:16:40 era we're living in work conspiracies are are taken as fact so when bubba cunningham says this is the protocol i'm not in the room stuff like this happens every year you've got fifty articles coming out within five minutes travesty north carolina gets in and then and uh... there there a d is to blame like uh... we we at the point where we can't take anything
Starting point is 00:17:02 at face value anymore i think it was cool though that he had to explain he had a duck into the bathroom every time they talked about north carolina well i feel good for i'm happy for jail and withers who i would not have want to be that kid in costa team nca turner birth on the lane violation but can we play the sound please a bubble cunning ham it's wonderful to have him actually named bubble can we just play the sound of him saying i
Starting point is 00:17:24 didn't have anything to do with this? You know all the policies and procedures were followed and Keith can address exactly how North Carolina Was discussed because I was not in room for any of that. Yeah. Thanks Bubba and Seth. I appreciate the question as the vice chair, I managed all the Conversations that we had about North Carolina and we had quite a few where I managed all the conversations that we had about North Carolina, and we had quite a few. Our policies require the AD of any school to recuse themselves and actually leave the room for those discussions. And they're not allowed to participate in any vote as well. So we follow those, had lots of discussions about North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Peter, I think mathematically, that's absurd. All right, I don't indulge in conspiracy theories But every change to a network of data affects all the members of the network if you're not talking about North Carolina You're talking about teams that either played North Carolina or played their opponents are gonna be affected if North Carolina is in or out So that's that's kind of a shady remark. I thought Shadiness we look at, delighted by the shadiness. Ooh. Yeah. I don't know much about Quad One, but that's bad.
Starting point is 00:18:29 There is some shadiness going on. We do need some form of controversy, right? There aren't 68 teams worthy of this tournament, are there? What do you think? I think there are at least 64. 64 worked pretty well. I mean, D1 keeps growing and growing. I don't wanna see expansion, but it's inevitable.
Starting point is 00:18:46 But these teams are good, man. The 12 seeds, good teams. But if you're not making this particular tournament, you can't complain very much when they're allowing a team with a 6-12 record in the SEC into the tournament, right? Yeah, I'd say so. The problem is because of conference expansion, these teams are, yes, they're all going to have six and 12 records in the SEC, but they're still better than, you know, anyone outside of the power five, pretty much. So it's, it's, expansion is basically taking away your chance to be a solid team in a smaller conference? I see where you're getting at,
Starting point is 00:19:27 but if you really want controversy, you gotta get into the women's tournament. That's where the analytics are not fully caught up yet. That's where you have 13 and 14 seats who are wildly different strengths. That's where you have less consolidation of the greatest teams among two conferences. That's where the Wild West is now.
Starting point is 00:19:44 That's where there's a lot more subjectivity. Okay, can we talk about this? Because I've seen a lot of college basketball coaches very upset about South Carolina not upset about being the one overall seed with a tougher schedule, even though they lost to UCLA. UCLA with the overall one seed with a weaker non-conference schedule.
Starting point is 00:20:03 UConn mad because Gino says there's not enough Big East teams in the tournament. There's a lot of upset college basketball coaches who, by the way, all are these are all like one or two seeds we're talking about who had pretty like South Carolina's got a pretty good setup for for making the final four here. But what are your thoughts on on all of that controversy today? I think that a lot of teams have a lot of points to make and they're all talking up because, you know, on the men's side, the metrics and the process are pretty well set on the women's side.
Starting point is 00:20:32 It's a lot more nebulous. And so everybody thinks they have a case to make. I think UConn has a case to make to be number one. And I think South Carolina, after they got smoked by UConn, then all they did was go out and in turn destroy like about seven of the best teams in the country. I don't know why NC State is a number two seed. I can't, they're like the 20th best team in the country maybe. So there's a lot of, there's a lot of weird stuff because there's a lot more wiggle
Starting point is 00:20:56 room. But it's fun because we need more coaches hating each other and who are angry all the time, especially as like the older men's coaches have bled the game because of NIL and stuff. So the women are picking up the slack and I like it. At 6 p.m. tonight these two guys will be live on DraftKings and the underdogs information is better than most you will find anywhere it's really data-driven. Last question before I let you go, given what you just said about the women's tournament, is there more betting value over there?
Starting point is 00:21:29 I would think yes, but the thing you have to remember is, there's still, like, we're talking about more parity among the women's teams, it's not really there yet. I mean, there are 20 or 30 teams that are really, really good now. They kind of crush underdogs and they compete among themselves. It's not to the point where there's 40 or 50.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Talent isn't as dispersed as we wanna think it is yet. The best teams are still so much better than the rest of the field. That's hard to make money betting on underdogs in the women's tournament. How many, for now, how many of the teams, Jordan, can win the championship in the women's tournament and how many of the teams can actually win the championship in the women's tournament and how many of the teams can actually win the championship in the men's?
Starting point is 00:22:07 Women's side Peter what would you say realistic shot about eight? Yeah yeah and on the men's side I think you've got a real top six and then a drop off could a seven or an eight a Michigan State a St. John's win yeah but I think it the four big SEC teams Duke and Houston and there's a St. John's win yeah but I think it the four big SEC teams Duke in Houston and there's a drop. Thank you gentlemen I thought that that was all great but especially the onboarding I thought that was the best part of the whole interview thank you I do appreciate that and I appreciate your time last night as well. The clip. Do we have to leave now? Yeah we'll be here
Starting point is 00:22:42 whenever you need us we're literally will be here whenever you need us. Thank you. Thank you. I do appreciate it. It would be funny if you guys popped out of the sky later as a thread throughout this interview just giving controversy because our commentary. Hey, friends, it's Jarabare here.
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Starting point is 00:25:24 Travel moves us. Don LeBretard. You are very comfortable talking about how you met your wife, how much you love her, how important she is to you, and that's the reason that I asked the question. I've always admired that about you, that you have no problems whatsoever professing your love.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Well, the thing is, I got a new wife now. You know, me and Bianca didn't make it. So I moved on, we moved on. It was for the better for both of us. Stu gots. Things just got a little awkward there. So let me be the first on this show to congratulate you on the new wife, Vince.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Congratulations on feeling feeling whole feeling complete you know let's talk tailgating yeah don't be those don't feel awkward buddy you know I appreciate you soothing me in this regard but I already feel terribly awkward and then my teammate comes to my defense with not a question, just a healthy congratulations and the further pointing out of that awkwardness because he's always good for me in those spots. I'm also thinking of divorce Vince after many many years, 18 years with a partner who does things like that to you. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats. I will explain to the audience what happened there. It was not clear, correct? It was not in any way clear what happened. Oh, it was clear that we screwed that up. It was very clear. Well, I didn't know we were doing that. I had mentioned while I was walking into the studio,
Starting point is 00:27:06 it would have been funny if we had thought to do this, is how I thought we were gonna do it. If we had thought, I didn't think those guys would be immediately available and have them drop out of the sky 10 minutes into the interview. The player was immediately available yesterday, and we didn't plan that.
Starting point is 00:27:22 The player? That's a good point. I forgot his name. Kyler. Granny, whatever his name is. 35% granny shooter. That part was funny. You gave me that stat when we were talking to Kyler Filovitch. If you weren't on with us yesterday,
Starting point is 00:27:39 if you weren't listening, he was shooting 30% from the free throw line and then they flew in Rick Berry. And I failed to ask the question and how much did you actually improve? Because during the interview, Chris Cody said to me, he's improved from 30 to 35% shooting free throws. That's not much of an improvement to fly Rick Berry in for.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Agreed. And his overall season percentage is lower than 35. It's, he did 30% regular style, and then when he switched to granny, he's shot 35%. So his season total, I believe, is somewhere in the middle there. But if you break him down just by the types of shots, yes, it's 35% granny, 30% regular.
Starting point is 00:28:22 It's an unbelievably bad both ways. He's our player, right? He's our adopted player now. For the first round. So now we are all in on Wofford. Sure, play the clip. I've been to Spartanburg. You understand why I said play the clip?
Starting point is 00:28:39 No, I don't understand anything that happened there. Okay, well I will explain to you what happened. We could just move on. I don't want, you know what, I don't want to. In. Okay, well I will explain to you what happened. We could just move on. I don't want, you know what, I don't want to. In fact, what is happening right now? What is, uh oh. All right, he's fired up, I'm sorry. I'm gonna give him a full bet.
Starting point is 00:28:53 The metrics support North Carolina being in the tournament. We're number 33 in Ken Palm, we're number 36 in the net ranking, and even then, we're North Carolina, your Boise State. That's why we're in the tournament Do you believe bubble wasn't in the room or in the room where it happens? This guy just made me bubble Cunningham had something to do with it Yes, we lost the Kansas. We lost the Michigan State. We lost Alabama or one and twelve against teams in the tournament
Starting point is 00:29:19 But again, Indiana cry me a river He's ready for baseball wearing a cup shirt River I But again, Indiana, cry me a river. Wow. He's ready for baseball, wearing a cup shirt. Cry me a river. I want- Will you come back, tell us about Bill Belichick CCing his girlfriend on his emails, go. I have a take on this. I have a take on this.
Starting point is 00:29:36 This is an old person thing. Yeah. Oh. It's an old person thing. Hell, it's not even that much of an old person thing. It's like I'm in a relationship kind of thing and she handles my entire calendar. I've been on emails where Dan's just like, CC Valerie. I've been the person that's been like,
Starting point is 00:29:52 just text Cynthia and figure it out. This is just an old person relationship thing. I don't have control of my schedule anymore. I don't have the energy or bandwidth to fight over it because I'm disorganized. Just CC her, my life's a lot easier. of my schedule anymore. I don't have the energy or bandwidth to fight over it because I'm disorganized. Just CC her, my life's a lot easier. So it's interesting that that is the place that you take that particular story. What about this one? Because this picture that we were showing yesterday of Bill
Starting point is 00:30:20 Belichick doing yoga on the beach, to me, the thing about that picture is somebody has to be asked to take it and then it gets dispersed. So there is a decision, right? That looks like a propped phone just like leaned up. That's on the sand. Yeah, if I had to guess, this is a timer. Okay, so if they're doing it by timer,
Starting point is 00:30:42 they're also doing something that they want this out there. And do you think, like, I'd like to know the marketing and business strategy of what is presently happening here. What is going on with what it is that Bill Belichick is trying to do with this portion of his career, where Pablo Torre is reporting that his girlfriend is basically his manager and agent. So there is a, and now they're on Hard Knocks, and now the reinvention of a legend begins in his 70s. They're not on Hard Knocks, they're doing their own thing.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Yeah, that got pulled out. It's not Hard Knocks branded, but they're still gonna be doing a show that's kind of invasive. Okay, my point is that- As he doesn't have any practice jersey numbers on which I know this seems like revolutionary he did it in New England Let me just say Randy Shannon did this down here. It was a disaster. He's just it's terrible for the coaches They're all wearing helmets. How can you tell?
Starting point is 00:31:38 My question to you guys is because this is a fairly Stunning thing to see I guess we can normalize it, but it's all fairly stunning to look at the entirety of this story. This is the best football coach there's ever been in America's most popular sport. What just happened on the television? The Island Green, Dan. The Island Green. Rory took a one-shot lead on the first playoff hole and then on the second playoff hole, Spahn, who's down a stroke, just hit it in the water.
Starting point is 00:32:10 So it's looking good for Rory here to win this. The players. What are you smiling about, Roy? Oh, that island green, man. I get you. Roy gets it. He gets it. 17 TPC sawgrass, man.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Not clutch, man. Legacies are made. The players. The players. I want to take you through this story, because it is fascinating. The coach for our times, the best. Word association, name a great coach.
Starting point is 00:32:39 If you're of this generation, last 20 years, Belichick Saban, those are the top of the list, because that's the known sport He's in his 70s can't get a job anywhere in professional football Goes to college and now has his career Being helped and aided old person thing whatever by a 24 year old who loves him I'm what I'm not getting into that.
Starting point is 00:33:07 No, but I'm... How am I supposed to know? Okay, but they're... Okay. They seem pretty serious. Yeah. And he seems oddly flexible for his age. Put a ring on that finger.
Starting point is 00:33:17 It's IG official. That's not nothing. Yeah, I'm not... This is somehow more reckless than the LeBron thing. What's reckless? Does she love him? I'm not... No, I wasn't this is somehow more reckless than the LeBron thing. What's reckless does she love him? I'm not no It sounded like there was a question it sounded like there's a question mark in it whatever I'm gonna be your friend here You got some blind spots here pal. All right, there's some blind spots here Like yet Valerie helps you out a ton with stuff you like she is anchor. I think that's all that's happening right here.
Starting point is 00:33:46 She's his manager. She's his partner. And they're doing partner things. That is correct. And they're building the business of Bill Belichick back up. And I'd like to explore it as they traffic in not caring whatever is the assessments are from afar.
Starting point is 00:34:02 I do not have blind spots here. She's young. She posts. She's young, she posts. She's like, she's IG, she's at IG age. I think we're acting like she's using Bill Belichick as if 70 year old Bill Belichick, being with a 29 year old or whatever, is not like he's getting something out of this exchange.
Starting point is 00:34:21 I think Bill very well knows what's going on here. I think he's happy with it. He looks super happy. This is... Did you see him at the museum? Check out the post before. Him at a museum is amazing. Mike, you're going to love it. He's always been lovey-dovey with long-term girlfriends. Like he's dressed up as pirates. Like I saw him at like the Gronk Beach House. Like he loves to have a good time and he's super public. This is the first time that he's dated,
Starting point is 00:34:44 it's the first time he's dated someone that's a little bit more active when it comes to social media posting. But Bill Lowkey has always kind of been like this. This is not though the part that I'm interested in. I'm interested in whoever manages and markets the last part of this and however they manage and market it. It's a man who's a legend whose name
Starting point is 00:35:05 has been tarnished so much that his league says, hey come interview for the Atlanta job three times, no you can't have it we don't want you. Wants to work in the pros, says he'll work for any bad team, no is the answer at every stop because of how he's doing it. Then he goes to college humbled not employed in the sport that he loves where he is the legend who was going to get don schuylas record most wins ever and then an apple docu series scorches him in ten episodes because craft burns the bridge to whatever that excellence was and now he
Starting point is 00:35:40 has to try and reinvent himself at seventy. What an interesting way to do it. What a fascinating way to do it. But it's also coaching cycles, right? If Bill Belichick would have sat out another year or two, he would have been back in the NFL. That's just kind of how it happens. When Bill Cower left, everyone was like, Cower, Cower, Cower, because he would say no. Eventually just because of the NFL and the fact that they don't really give that many
Starting point is 00:36:02 new people opportunities, they all eventually get another job. He just got tired of waiting and he wanted to do this. And like, it wasn't like he went begging to North Carolina. He found a program that was desperate enough to give him everything that he wanted. And he like they put him in a position where he couldn't say no because they gave him everything. May I also just add that I don't find anything remotely new or shocking about an older man having a hot young girlfriend. To me the only interesting thing that happens a lot. To me the interesting part about this is whether or not it
Starting point is 00:36:35 succeeds or fails or if he even gives it long enough to do that. In college, staffs generally need like three years to put their program in place. He is approaching this differently. In terms of talent acquisition, it hasn't gone the way that most people think it would have gone for. It's still super early, and it's hard to judge when a new coach jumps in in an off season like that.
Starting point is 00:36:59 But okay, you think that you're smarter. You think hiring your friends like Lombardi is going to work out for you on this level, and I'm really interested to see if it actually does Both the coaching and the relationship if we're being honest are probably gonna end Horribly like this isn't gonna go well on either front, but he's having the time of his life now going to museums He's doing the beach foot like he seems to be having fun he's in the dunking commercials like let him have his his moment because North Carolina is not gonna be a national power.
Starting point is 00:37:26 And a 29 year old is not gonna be around Bill Belichick forever. Probably. Can you? Well, he's gonna die first, obviously. Is that what you're getting at? She could be there for his forever. I mean, Billy, you were skeptical of their love.
Starting point is 00:37:41 I mean, I'm skeptical of their love? You're just like, she's not gonna stay with him. You just said that. Yeah, I'm just saying it's probably not. Well look, here's the deal, right? When you're like 28, 29, this is a powerful person, right? But when you realize that all of his friends are 70 and you're going to a 73 year old's birthday party
Starting point is 00:38:00 and you're hanging out with just a bunch of 70 year olds. Guys, get in for a selfie. Yeah, you go and it's like, oh, what are we going to do this week? And well, the Lombardies are having us over for a 530 dinner. Things are going to get wild. We're having supper. I don't know about I want to sign up for this forever, even though forever is not that long.
Starting point is 00:38:15 It's not his network. He goes on the boat. He goes to parties. He is a fun guy. He for sure calls it supper too. There's Stu involved. They've been together for a fun guy. He for sure calls it supper too. There's Stu involved. They've been together for a long time. I'm pretty sure like she,
Starting point is 00:38:29 they seem like they really like each other. She's wearing jackets. I hope everyone is having a fun time. It appears that they are. I don't, I see it and I'm like, huh, that's wild. I would have never pictured Bill Belichick doing this because he was Mr. Serious all the time. But then the initial sort of shock wore off,
Starting point is 00:38:46 and I'm like, cool, they're just in a relationship. I hope that everyone gets out of this relationship what they're hoping to get out of this relationship, and it's 100% supper, and it's 100% soup, because the polygrip, not that strong. Let's not forget, we played videos for years of him jumping off boats. This guy's always liked a good time.
Starting point is 00:39:05 He really has. The part actually about this that is most interesting to me is that I think most people are coming by Billy's opinion on this is all going to fail as it regards the football. And to me, that part's confusing because you've told me for 25 years that this is a genius that knows more than everyone else. You take Tom Brady from him and all of a sudden it has no values in the amateur ranks?
Starting point is 00:39:32 It doesn't have some sort of advantage that they don't have because they're not as professional as him? Why are we spending so much time propping up that Bill Belichick is the reason for winning and then turning around when he goes to North Carolina and saying he will not have any substantive advantages there. Well, because the way that college athletics works, it's not set up for him to be successful.
Starting point is 00:39:55 His success was not just Tom Brady, but it was because he was the dictator of an entire system that he ran in New England, where you came in and you knew you were signing up for that system. The way college athletics are now, you just basically have to pay the best 18-year-old,
Starting point is 00:40:12 and if they don't like it, or if they succeed, they can go to a school that can pay them more than North Carolina can probably pay them with a better pedigree than North Carolina. Or, if you sign someone up to be the backup, they can then leave the next year. So it's a different system where Bill Belichick's gonna have to change the way that he's done things
Starting point is 00:40:32 and he's gonna have to do that now at 72 years old with 18 year olds who are just looking for more money and they're not gonna buy into the Patriot way, which is what we always talked about, why Bill Belichick was successful, because of this whole system that he set up where the players didn't really have much of a say in anything and they just had to do whatever he wanted.
Starting point is 00:40:50 And that's just not the case of college football right now with NIL money. Well, also his approach is more of like a development. I'm really good at developing players. Tom Brady was a six-round draft pick. I'm gonna scout guys. I'm gonna have these gems that you find and develop them, but that takes time.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Does the oldest coach have time? Does what he brings in with his prestige afford him that kind of time? Does he get bored with it and wants to jump back to the NFL? Or does this experience make him a bigger punchline in the NFL and he's probably closing those doors that he still seemingly punch line in the NFL? And he's probably closing those doors that he still seemingly is interested in walking through. Yeah, there's also questions as to how committed he actually is to this process, right?
Starting point is 00:41:32 When we saw the specifics of, well, he hadn't actually signed his contract yet. And there's outs where it would only cost a million dollars if he left for an NFL job before certain dates. Maybe Bill Belichick falls in love with being a college coach and he really enjoys North Carolina. You see him at basketball games with recruits he seems to be buying in right but we also don't know how long this experiment is actually gonna last. The part that's just confusing to me is that there's and
Starting point is 00:41:57 those are all reasonable questions you're just telling me that whatever he's had that is the advantages for twenty five years are so worth nothing that you don't think he can even bring what deon sanders brought at the beginning because deon sanders came with two actual players and you're telling me belichick's not even worth that that the questions are so strong and all of that is fair everything you've said is fair as a question but they're so strong that you're willing to turn it into a doubt that will make him an immediate failure, and you're adding to it. I'm not sure he cares that much about this part.
Starting point is 00:42:31 I mean, I didn't go that strong on any of that. I said that it's just assuming that it's going to be a success is not necessarily the case. But like, there's also a very big difference in Deion Sanders' ability to recruit and build Belichecks, right? There's a relatability there that's different. It's not just they were successful at what they did. Bill Belichick was kind of told by the NFL, you don't have it anymore and we're not gonna bring you back
Starting point is 00:42:57 and we're not gonna give you, you were the greatest coach ever, but also time has passed you by and we don't know if you can do it without a quarterback because you haven't proven us that you can do it without a quarterback yet. So like it's not me saying it. That's like the message the NFL delivered to him. What I'm saying is I don't know that what he did successfully in the NFL translates over to present-day college football. He's gonna attempt what the vision at least for year one, is I have a coaching advantage because I'm the greatest
Starting point is 00:43:26 head coach of all time. When the bright lights go on that Monday night against TCU, you know you've got the smarter coach on your sideline and certainly the more prestigious one. And I will develop these kids. I mean, if I'm a college football fan, that's all I have to believe in right now for North Carolina because that's all he's shown me.
Starting point is 00:43:42 He's not walking in the door with Travis Hunter. And I think that's a little bit of a surprise. But again, he's not from this world. At least Dion was at Jackson State. He knew how to recruit talent. He knew how to walk in the door with a lot of talent. It's a whole new base level of skill that he's got to learn or at least build a program good enough that it makes it easier for him. The 18-year-olds he's were trying to recruit also though, like the last time Bill Belichick was Bill Belichick,
Starting point is 00:44:08 they were probably like 10. I think we could actually make this more fun. Let's just go through a list of the ACC coaches and we can say which ones we know for a fact Bill Belichick is better than as a coach. Pat Narduzzi, let's start with the obvious there. Manny Diaz. He's a better head coach than all of them.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Jessica, no, but this is the part that I find, this is the part that I find funny. Wow. Claussen retired. Big year for NC State. I feel like this is finally the make or break year for Doran. Brent Pry for sure. Oh, Pry's a good one.
Starting point is 00:44:43 I like Pry, I'm a Pry guy. Big Pry guy. Really? Yeahan. Brent Pry for sure. Oh, Pry's a good one. I like Pry, I'm a Pry guy. Big Pry guy. Really? Yeah, love Brent Pry. You kidding me? Is that just because they almost beat me? Well, they own Miami, and whenever he's overmatched, he will design a game plan to actually try to make that
Starting point is 00:44:55 a winnable game for Georgia Tech. Speaking of Mario for sure. Yeah, easily. Well, at least I know Lombardi feels that way. I'd maybe put Dabo, because Dabo's won a couple national championships. Bill's the best coach in college football in terms of Xs and Os.
Starting point is 00:45:09 I'd say Dabo's probably better than Bill right now, but subject to change. All you have to do is win the ACC, Dan, and you get in the playoffs. Is that all you have to do? The part that I think is funniest about this is how much of that tactical advantage can anyone listening to this
Starting point is 00:45:25 actually quantify because we can all think that Belichick will obviously have a coaching advantage over Mario Cristobal and yet you're telling me that when that produces a result it's not going to be North Carolina actually being good at football in an enduring way. He's going to go to every one of those games with that kind of tactical advantage, and none of us will have a way of seeing it actually play out in a way that we believe in right now.
Starting point is 00:45:54 As we talk about it, you make fun of it, but a guy who's a genius, an alleged genius, is going to come to the sport and not actually have a tactical advantage. It matters. I actually do think it matters. As a fan of a program that is often inside that conference more talented than its opponents but there's deficiencies at head coach in terms of tactical advantage.
Starting point is 00:46:15 We've lost to a ton of opponents over the last 21 years that quantifiably have smarter staffs than Miami and And the talent gap, you see the composite recruiting rankings. Miami's only been to Charlotte once in its history since they joined the ACC. So I'm a big believer in that, in this conference especially.

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